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Speaker 1: Giants Training Camp two is presented by four, the official

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Speaker 1: SUV of the New York Giants. It's time to get

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Speaker 1: inside the Giants Huddle on Giants dot Com on The

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Speaker 1: Giants part of the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Giants Huddle. I'm Paul to Tino, and today we'll hear

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Speaker 1: from the newest members of the Giants Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 1: As always, you can catch the Huddle on Giants dot Com,

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Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts, and all of your favorite podcast platforms. Running

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Speaker 1: backs Joe Morris, Olda Sanderson and Rodney Hampton defensive and

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Speaker 1: Leonard Marshall running back, receiver Kyle Wrote, safety Jimmy Patton

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Speaker 1: and trainer Ronny Barnes will increase the Ring to fifty

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Speaker 1: Giants legends when they go in on Monday night, September

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Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys. Morris remains in the team's all

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Speaker 1: time top five with nearly fifty three hundred rushing yards,

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Speaker 1: running for forty eight touchdowns, and nineteen one hundred yard games.

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Speaker 1: In typical fashion, the Super Bowl twenty one champion credited

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Speaker 1: others epically his offensive line of Benson, art Oates, Godfrey

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Speaker 1: and Nelson. It's just something special to me because we

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Speaker 1: in six think about this, uh brass in a tough

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Speaker 1: Those guys made that possible for me. And you know

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Speaker 1: The Super Bowl champion expressed great appreciation for the honor.

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Speaker 1: Man be special nor from Texas. I'm gonna have uh

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Speaker 1: being home with all my Giants fans because they didn't

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Speaker 1: want made it possible for me on the chin, Like

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Speaker 1: you told me one thing. You remember, the Giants fans

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Speaker 1: gonna be here when you're doing good. They're gonna scheer you,

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Speaker 1: I mean not doing your job. You're gonna hit also.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be special for me, man just being

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Speaker 1: valued the franchise's history. That is grateful to have been

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Speaker 1: a part of it. I knew who the rich Parts was,

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Speaker 1: Sam was the first guy I saw when I walked

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Speaker 1: He has arresting. That was a huge honi for me.

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Speaker 1: So I said to Sam, I'm gonna know you the

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Speaker 1: And it was just an honest so that I think

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Speaker 1: Oldis Anderson also owns rings from Super Bowls twenty one

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Speaker 1: But late Kyle Roade was drafted as a running back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty six. Late safety Jimmy Patton was a

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Speaker 1: five time All Pro who played in five championship games

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Speaker 1: title run. Congratulations to these seven men, the latest inductees

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