1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Family Secrets is a production of I Heart Radio. Danny's 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Listening is a bonus series brought to you by Family Secrets. 3 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: I have a last name that I was given at 4 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: birth because it's my father's last name, and it was 5 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: my grandfather's last name and my father's family's last name. 6 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: So when I went to college, a professor pointed out 7 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: to me that it was a famous last name that 8 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: belonged to the barrister in the US that created the warrant. 9 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: So I continued with my last name into my marriage, 10 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: did not take my married name either, and had a 11 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: couple of graduate degrees unbeknownst to me. When my grandfather 12 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: died in I learned he had adopted my father and 13 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: he was not my biological grandfather, And then things began 14 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: to make sense because he didn't act like it. We 15 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: were left out of that inheritance because we were not 16 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: biologically related. My father passed away a few years ago, 17 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: and I never heard or knew anything about his father, 18 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: being told that he had disappeared in the Merchant Marine, 19 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: that my father was a baby, and never knew his dad. 20 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: After I did ancestry, DNA at cousin reached out to 21 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: me this summer through the Internet who found me as 22 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: a match and decided to help me discover this grandfather 23 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: that I had a name to but did not knew 24 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: anything about that family. He discovered he died differently than 25 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: we expected, and that he had called in three days 26 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: after his wife died to a West Coast newspaper to 27 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: say he had shot his wife, and three days later 28 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: after he made that phone call, he shot himself. But 29 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: it's a shot to me, and I doubt my father 30 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: ever knew would happen to his real dad. He did 31 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: well in his life, but there is this legacy that 32 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: was never shared and now maybe I know why, or 33 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:44,279 Speaker 1: we just never wanted to know why. Hi, it's Danny. 34 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for taking the time to share your 35 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: story with us. It sent chills down my spine because 36 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm putting together season six of Family Secrets, which will 37 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: drop on December ninth. By the way, and one of 38 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: the episodes is literally called name of the Father. So 39 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: you were given a last name at birth that meant 40 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: something to you as you grew up, a famous last name, 41 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: one you felt connected to and proud of. I totally 42 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: relate to that. I felt the same way about the 43 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: Shapiro family. They were illustrious, prosperous, admired. It was a 44 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: legacy I attached myself to. I didn't take my husband's 45 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: name either when I married, and all of my books 46 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: are published under that name, Danny Shapiro. To discover well 47 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: into a life that the name on your birth certificate 48 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: is not the same as the family name you come 49 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: from biologically is a wild blow, and it's one that's 50 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: hard for many people to wrap their heads around. It's 51 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: the discovery of it that is I think the biggest 52 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: shock and heartache. Believing one thing and discovering another at 53 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: such a fundamental level. It's heartbreaking that your father was 54 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: left out of his inheritance because he had been adopted. 55 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: That blow, on top of the blow of the discovery, 56 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: must have been extremely painful for him. For all of you, 57 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: and now you're left, thanks to the wonders of DNA discovery, 58 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: holding all this new information about your biological genetic heritage. 59 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: Your dad is gone. You're pretty sure that he never 60 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: knew what happened to his biological dad, who lived a 61 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: life that contrasts sharply with the life he had known. 62 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: I have a few more thoughts First, that cousin who 63 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: reached out on ancestry dot Com sounds like a really 64 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: good and kind person, one of those angels we meet 65 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: along the way when we're on the rocky path of 66 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: such an unexpected discovery. Secondly, you say your dad did well, 67 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: he had a successful life. This to me feels key. 68 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Your dad gave you that name. No, perhaps it wasn't 69 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: his genetic family name, but he lived most of his 70 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: life with that name, and you've lived all of your 71 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: life with yours. I've come to think of these complex 72 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: stories like yours, like mine, as threads in a tapestry. 73 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: All these threads woven together is what made your dad 74 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: your dad, and what makes you you. I wonder if 75 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: you can embrace your dad's family name, the one he 76 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: lived and died with. That's as true as anything else. 77 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: And I wonder too, if you might find some small, private, 78 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: deeply personal way to acknowledge that other thread that has 79 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: woven into what makes you you. I wish you the 80 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 1: best of luck on your ongoing journey. I'll be thinking 81 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: of you. If you have a family secret story you'd 82 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: like to share on Danny's Listening, please call eight eight 83 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: eight Secret zero. That's eight s e c R e 84 00:05:52,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: T in the number zero,