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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: Norri with you along with Charles Upton his book The

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Speaker 1: Alien Disclosure Deception. Charles, what is the most important thing

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Speaker 1: you want people to grasp from the book, to grasp

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Speaker 1: some concrete instances of deception instead of talking about in

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Speaker 1: the abstract, let's look about look at actual instances here. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Four of these are taken from that really useful documentary

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Speaker 1: from Netflix, the UFO Topsicled UFO Projects Declassified. Okay, now

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Speaker 1: what we have we have totally absurd stories that could

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Speaker 1: not be true. We have the story told by Colonel

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Speaker 1: Philip J. Corso of one of the time he was

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Speaker 1: at Fort Riley and according to him, there was a

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Speaker 1: special shipment came in and we went to the warehouse,

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Speaker 1: and since he was the duty officer, he started looking

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Speaker 1: about this um shipment and he opened this is the

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Speaker 1: story he tells in that documentary. He opened a regular

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Speaker 1: wooden packing crate at random, and what should he find

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Speaker 1: an alien corpse. No attempt to preserve it, no hermetically sealed,

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Speaker 1: a random wooden packing crate, flips it open. There's an

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Speaker 1: alien corps. Great luck? Right? How likely is that pretty remote?

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Speaker 1: Pretty remote? So that's an absurd story. And you do

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Speaker 1: know these guys are laughing at it. They think they

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Speaker 1: think we're idiots and won't believe anything. There's another one. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Rob Mercer tells the story. Uh that Okay, he's reading

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Speaker 1: a classified advertisement in his paper and and it says,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, the top secret documents available to anyone

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Speaker 1: wants to take him off my hands, come on over.

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Speaker 1: So he goes if this is he's an employee of

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Speaker 1: right Patterson Airbase. So he goes to this guy's house

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Speaker 1: and in the garage or all these documents and what

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Speaker 1: are they? They are supposedly all of the reports that

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Speaker 1: were excluded from Project Bluebook, you know, but just hasn't

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Speaker 1: He says, okay, you know, you get no charge. Just

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Speaker 1: I got to clean out the garage. I got room

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Speaker 1: for other stuff. Just take take him off my hand,

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Speaker 1: he said, okay, sure, Now, how likely is that it

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Speaker 1: was probably the world's greatest scam to clean out his garage? Yeah? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah. I mean if if I if

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Speaker 1: I could say that a lot of the drunk in

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Speaker 1: this house is really paranormal or secret, and then people

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Speaker 1: would come and take it off my hands. Get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. But look, this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: These stories could not be true. Anybody who would make

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Speaker 1: those those documents available to anybody in the public through

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Speaker 1: a classified ad would would get at least the men

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Speaker 1: in black of not getting disappeared. You don't do that

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Speaker 1: withified documents that you've stolen from an airbase you used

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Speaker 1: to work on. Ridiculous, Give me a brain. So why

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Speaker 1: do it in the first place? What do they want? Uh?

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Speaker 1: They they don't. They want us not to look at

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. They want us to to to, you know,

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Speaker 1: follow go down rabbit holes that are of absurd hand Charles, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is okay. Those are those are two and then

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Speaker 1: and there are other. Now you look at at that

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Speaker 1: documentary and you have okay, first, terrible stories of UFO

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Speaker 1: abductions are told by of course, Travis Walton. Everybody knows

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Speaker 1: about his awful experience, which was, you know, traumatized him

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for it here fire in the sky with Travis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fire in the guy. And and then someone else tells

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Speaker 1: in the documentary in the same doctor documentary, uh alehundred

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Speaker 1: Rojas comes forward a hundred Rojas and says with the

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Speaker 1: intersteen things that they're people. No one has ever had

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Speaker 1: documentary tells stories of of of pursuing jets being shot

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Speaker 1: in little airplanes. Yeah, like the right. So so what

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Speaker 1: the fate of humanity. They want to be seen, they

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Speaker 1: want to get through to us that when they appear

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Speaker 1: something which would make me wonder, why are they secretive? Now?

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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous, I mean, you know, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: contradicted by the rest of the documentary. I gotta get

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Speaker 1: I gotta get you on a panel with all these folks.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Because what we need to do when we

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Speaker 1: your face, we need to say, oh, mister Dolan, you know,

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Speaker 1: could you explain this? You know, senor, Senor Rojas, could

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Speaker 1: you explain this? This does not make sense to me.

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Speaker 1: At least will give you an opportunity to explain this

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Speaker 1: a little further because this doesn't mix. But are you

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Speaker 1: saying that some of these investigators are part of the

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Speaker 1: government deception? They are or are obviously they are? How

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Speaker 1: many people? How long can we believe that people? Now? Now,

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Speaker 1: these people aren't associated with the CIA, But well, why

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Speaker 1: do we believe that the CIA and the military presence

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Speaker 1: in the disclosure movement is all whistleblowers who who have

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Speaker 1: who have gone against their own superiors at great risk

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Speaker 1: truth because they're tired of lying. That is that is absurd.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they're working for you know, you know, if if

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Speaker 1: if the moment is full of the CIA and the military,

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Speaker 1: it is being run by the CIA and the military.

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Speaker 1: End of story. The big question, and again though Charles,

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Speaker 1: is what do they want to gain from this? What

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Speaker 1: they want to do is impose a change of belief

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Speaker 1: number two, they want to legitimize transhumanism. Because if if

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Speaker 1: the UFO aliens created us, look, you know, uh, we

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Speaker 1: our original creators who have been guiding a revolution and

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Speaker 1: I mean just bowing down to this. But what happens

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Speaker 1: when the real visitations continue to become public and well

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Speaker 1: The majority of the visitations are real. Okay, might be

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Speaker 1: using the real ones. These things keep coming and they say, well,

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Speaker 1: will work for us. That's what they're doing this. And

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Speaker 1: tell their friends to read my book. But people need

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Speaker 1: There's also things like you will have a word in

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Speaker 1: called unconscious contradiction. If two totally contradictory pieces of data

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Speaker 1: something demonic going on here, Charlie. Yeah, it is demonic,

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Speaker 1: this Demond unfortunately. I mean, I mean, this is the

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Speaker 1: Sol Oh, this won't affect me. You know what, really,

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Speaker 1: We can't do anything that they need to face it

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Speaker 1: And there's also an Orthodox Christian Fathers spittered on who

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Speaker 1: and and what what the temptation is is we're being

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Speaker 1: tempted to renounce the human form. That's the last temptation.

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Speaker 1: And what's interesting about that if that's also the last

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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to read that to you in Arabic,

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Speaker 1: goes mismahman Rahim Cooloos would be robbing nas Monichi Nazi Nas,

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Speaker 1: I mean Charlie wats watsiel nas as Eus. We we

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Speaker 1: see sudurin Nasi menojanati one Nas and the name of Allah,

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Speaker 1: the benepsent, the merciful, say, I take refuge in the

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Speaker 1: from the evil of the sneaking whisperer who whispers, and

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Speaker 1: And I take that as saying, essentially, stay human, because

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Speaker 1: you know, if if if we don't know what a

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Speaker 1: human beings occupied. We think that if we uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: So so what so what so up? It's just the

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Speaker 1: next thing, you know, if you're not human anymore? Are what? Human?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't so important anyway, It wasn't who concocted the scheme. Well,

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Speaker 1: are these people, I mean, I mean somebody had to

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Speaker 1: come up with a grand idea. Yeah, it's the people

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Speaker 1: that renegae nong in the reign of quantity, in the

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Speaker 1: signs of the times called the counter initiation. And he

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Speaker 1: saw these as in his time, these were secret societies

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Speaker 1: that were dedicated to destroying religion and to destroying even

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Speaker 1: within the world religions, all at the same time just

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Speaker 1: wipe them. Well, working on it, you know, over a

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Speaker 1: The weird thing is, once they win, what have they got?

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Speaker 1: Once they win, what have they got? They don't have

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Speaker 1: a world because the world has been trashed, and no

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Speaker 1: human being can profit from the destruction, the deconstruction of

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Speaker 1: the human form. You can't. You can't turn to everybody

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Speaker 1: else into robots and then then then expect your humanity

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Speaker 1: is going to be intact. And they may not even

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Speaker 1: want their humanity to be intact. This is what evil is.

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Speaker 1: Evil is absurd. You know, they probably don't have the

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Speaker 1: game plan for the long term. Well, the game plan

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Speaker 1: for the long term comes essentially from Lucifer. Listen to

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