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Speaker 5: And I think, you know, as crazy as this sounds

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Speaker 6: So let's talk about the FBI. Direct your background of

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Speaker 1: You think of the serious problems we have with human trafficking,

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Speaker 7: He knows the agents. And there's a huge difference between.

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Speaker 3: The scope of authority is enormous. I think I had.

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Speaker 7: This is the climal screen of a dying regime.

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Speaker 9: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 7: There's not got a free shot.

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Speaker 10: And all these networks lying about the people, the people

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Speaker 7: Belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.

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Speaker 9: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 9: Bath okay in Welcome to Friday twenty two November Ireverler,

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty four. Important. I think discussions, one might even

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Speaker 7: Jack Vesobic.

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Speaker 9: First things for we may do a little wet work today, Jack,

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Speaker 9: How do we have a progressive Democrat? How do we

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Speaker 9: It's about the organization he runs. But we have many,

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Speaker 9: And brother, if there's so many great FBI agents, where

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Speaker 7: The parents? Where were they? Why didn't they come forward?

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Speaker 7: We're not listening to Fox. Fox is poison.

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Speaker 7: With us next.

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Speaker 4: Rogers is a totally reasonable, logical UH selection for FBI director,

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Speaker 4: I had many interactions with then Representative.

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Speaker 4: He served as an FBI agent for several years before.

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Speaker 6: The thing about if you talk to President Trump on

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Speaker 7: He knows the agents. And there's a huge difference between.

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Speaker 9: The mechanics of that, but the fact that there's okay,

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Speaker 7: This is why all these Republicans come up here.

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Speaker 9: And you voted him in and worked for him and

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Speaker 7: Why this is the way the games played? No kill me.

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Speaker 9: You were absolutely dead wrong. You couldn't be more dead wrong.

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Speaker 9: Why did they not come forward after World War I

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Speaker 9: it is systemic inside that apparatus. It's been turned into

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Speaker 7: Kill me.

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Speaker 9: They get people in Danbury, men in Danbury that are

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Speaker 7: Where are you? Thirty five thousand? Where are they? Where

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Speaker 9: You got a handful pasobic and pasobic Mike Rogers, he's

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Speaker 7: Oh I can do it.

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, you think mccabs. You think McCabe and

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Speaker 9: this crowd is afraid of Mike Rodgers. They're selling him

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Speaker 9: So the cash Paatel and the real heroes and the patriots,

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Speaker 7: McCabe's guilty of treason.

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Speaker 9: He's got to be investigated, tried, and then whatever happens happens.

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Speaker 11: Noll, He'll be leaving the country with the rest of

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Speaker 7: Look at me. I'm so smart.

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Speaker 11: No, you're so dumb, because you're gonna sit there and

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Speaker 11: And then meanwhile you turn around and you attack Cash Paatel.

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Speaker 11: Pattel in there opening up documents, unseiling things, finding out

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Speaker 11: All right, Cash, isn't some guy who from Johnny Come

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Speaker 7: No, no, no. He helped out regular people.

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Speaker 9: this is But here's the point for the audience. Watch Fox.

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Speaker 9: go ahead, So do we elect Rupert Murdoch?

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Speaker 9: both sides and they sucker in the right. But this

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Speaker 9: thing they did today on Rogers exposes them one hundred

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Speaker 9: percent for what they are. Okay, and we haven't seen

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Speaker 9: I want to thank Dance Scaveno. Dance Cavino went to

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Speaker 9: the President Dan's the best of the best, and the

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Speaker 9: president is put dance put out of things, saying no

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Speaker 9: way on Mike Rodgers.

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Speaker 7: But hey Dan, we love you, brother.

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Speaker 9: But the war room we believe in Carthaginian peace of

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Speaker 9: the like the Romans rough Roman justice and the Carthaginian piece.

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Speaker 9: We got to sault the earth around this. So it's

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Speaker 9: like a van. These people are like vampires. They keep

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Speaker 9: coming back, right. We got to assault the earth around

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Speaker 9: the Rogers situation. And look, it's not that Mike Rodgers

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Speaker 9: is not an okay guy, and he ran for Senate

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Speaker 9: and we did. We kind of supported that because they

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Speaker 9: wasn't a primary and President Trump thought he you know,

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Speaker 9: I thought he could win in Michigan. That's fine, but

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Speaker 9: this is different. This is different. And my question the

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Speaker 9: FBI agents, where are you? Why are you not coming

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Speaker 9: forward for forward? You know you're supposed to be such

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Speaker 9: great guys. Prove it, prove it. Now's your time to

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Speaker 9: prove it. Because McCabe's going down, Coombe's going down, Ray's

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Speaker 9: going down, Meyrick Garland's going down, Lisa Monica's going Why

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Speaker 9: do you think they're reporting that morning?

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Speaker 7: Mika is running down to mar Lago.

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Speaker 9: The Daily Mail lead stories they're worried about the investigation

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Speaker 9: into the dead intern, right they report, I think it

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Speaker 9: was Axio. So Politico reports that Garland was stunned because

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Speaker 9: he's watching MSNBC. He's stunned on Tuesday the fifth that

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Speaker 9: Trump won and that there was weeping among the senior

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Speaker 9: lawyers at that Justice Department, why they understand? In fact,

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Speaker 9: i'll play that clip here in a minute before you

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Speaker 9: get Jeff Clark on pos SO. Two things, wre I

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Speaker 9: let you go, and I thank you for doing this.

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Speaker 9: And by the way, Cash is the man government Gangsters

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Speaker 9: is the film. Cash is the man. He stood by

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Speaker 9: President Trump. You knows where all the bodies are buried.

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Speaker 9: He's got plenty of gravitas, more so than the guys

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Speaker 9: they're talking about. Tell me about we got Victor Orbon

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Speaker 9: in Hungary with Netan Yahoo, and we got the Russians.

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Speaker 9: It looks like in reports, are they about to light

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Speaker 9: up Poland? The American missile basis sites in Poland? Is

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Speaker 9: this thing metastasizing in front of us?

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Speaker 11: Jack Well, Steve, here's what's going on regarding Russia. Regarding

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Speaker 11: obviously Orbon, he's played a bit of a middleman between

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Speaker 11: NATO and Russia. Throughout the entire Ukraine War, he said

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Speaker 11: that he doesn't want war, he wants peace deals. He's

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Speaker 11: kept at a great controversy, he's kept some of the oil,

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Speaker 11: the oil contracts going Russia. And so the basic through

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Speaker 11: line of all of this, and yet of course bringing

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Speaker 11: Netanyahu over in defiance of this ICC, this ICC warrant

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Speaker 11: which has come down for himself and the beliefouses really

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Speaker 11: mis your defense that what they're doing is they're offering

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Speaker 11: us two doors. Okay, there's two doors before us right now,

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Speaker 11: the door of Donald Trump and Toolsey Gabbard and peace.

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Speaker 7: And we're not going to go down World War three.

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Speaker 11: But the Russians are telling us, like they've told us

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Speaker 11: from the very start, that if you want a wider war,

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Speaker 11: we are more than happy to give you one. Because

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Speaker 11: the Russians have changed their nuclear stands now they've changed

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Speaker 11: their nuclear ready.

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Speaker 7: As postured to this.

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Speaker 11: If you threaten Russia, then we can use nuclear arms

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Speaker 11: as a preemptive first strike to defend the Motherland. And look,

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Speaker 11: if you know anything about Russia. I say this as

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Speaker 11: a Polish guy, you know anything about Russia, there's one

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Speaker 11: thing that they will always go to absolute war for,

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Speaker 11: and that's to defend the motherland. Look what they did

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Speaker 11: the Napoleon. Look what they did the Hitler. You really

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Speaker 11: want to start with these guys.

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Speaker 7: Come on, amen.

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Speaker 9: By the way, our ally, the Russian people are our ally.

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Speaker 9: That took I don't know, thirty five or forty million

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Speaker 9: casualties in World War two. Jack real quickly victor Orbon

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Speaker 9: in Hungary, he's he's embracing Netanyahu and going against the

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Speaker 9: ICC right.

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Speaker 7: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 11: So victor Orbon is thumbing his nose and saying, look, no,

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Speaker 11: we are going to we are gonna be on side

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Speaker 11: with this. We are going to defend civilization. We are

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Speaker 11: on the side of those who are against barbarism. And

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Speaker 11: that's what this is about.

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Speaker 7: That Judea Christian West.

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Speaker 9: Jack, Where do people follow you on Twitter?

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Speaker 7: Sir?

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Speaker 11: Of course I'll be up on Twitter at Jack Posobic

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Speaker 11: all day Human Events daily here at later two pm.

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Speaker 7: Shout out to the great Dan Scavino.

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Speaker 11: By the way, Steve, I think Dan Scavino lives a

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Speaker 11: little close to at least Dephonics District.

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Speaker 7: Kind of interesting about that, huh.

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Speaker 13: Scoot ah, You want to talk about exploding love by

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Speaker 13: the way, by the way to the deep State, to

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Speaker 13: the Deep States, to the deep State.

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Speaker 11: If you want to find out what our plans for

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Speaker 11: you are, go ask the Carthaginians.

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Speaker 9: The Carthaginians. I love it, the Carthaginian peace. We're going

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Speaker 9: to salt the earth around these guys. Short break. Jeff

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Speaker 9: Clark on the other side.

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Speaker 14: Love institutions the most, are the most enthusiastic about fresh

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Speaker 14: eyes and reform. But I think what's so stark is

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Speaker 14: that what he's making clear there is that that's not

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Speaker 14: what they're doing at all. It is about rubble. It

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Speaker 14: is about destroying these agencies.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that there are two insights that it's

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Speaker 8: worth kind of sitting on. One is an observation about

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Speaker 8: this incoming administration and what they want to do. And

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Speaker 8: it's plain as day they say they want to dismantle

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Speaker 8: the administrative state. That is their plan.

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Speaker 3: It is their stated goal.

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Speaker 8: And I don't think that they care about whether there'll

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Speaker 8: be some shrapnel or some ancillary damage related to that.

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Speaker 8: And so I think that's something that people should be

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Speaker 8: alarmed about. And I think it's a clear eyed assessment

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Speaker 8: of what the incoming administration.

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Speaker 3: Wants to do.

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Speaker 8: The second part of that is it's sort of the

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Speaker 8: more interesting part for me, right, because the Democrats then

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Speaker 8: get put in this box, right, And I think it's

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Speaker 8: one of the things that they struggled with during the

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Speaker 8: election was democrats and us never Trumper's anti pro democracy

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Speaker 8: types are always in the position of having to defend

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Speaker 8: these institutions and be the institutionalists and be you know,

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Speaker 8: someone that's like, we should keep the administrative states. It's like, well,

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Speaker 8: the investory state's not that popular for starters. These lead institutions,

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Speaker 8: many of them the military still as villains, aren't that popular.

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Speaker 8: And so finding a way to talk about what Milly

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Speaker 8: just talked about, but how yes, we need we need

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Speaker 8: to reform that destroy. I think that's a big challenge

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Speaker 8: for the rest of us in the coming years.

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Speaker 15: Jeff Rosen and a bunch of other official threat to

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Speaker 15: resign when Trump tried to put in Jeff Clark in twenty.

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Speaker 3: Twenty, who was also going to push the big lie.

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Speaker 15: So I think she's more she has more management experience.

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Speaker 15: I think she's much smoother, and I think she's got

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Speaker 15: a good chance of being confirmed. So she's much smoother

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Speaker 15: than Gates, but as she might follow the same things

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Speaker 15: there was I was quick, like everybody looking at clippings.

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Speaker 15: At one point she was to crying Jack Smith and

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Speaker 15: the prosecutors, the people I've talked about prosecuting, and she

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Speaker 15: called all of these people Jack Smith horrible people. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: who had weaponized the Justice Department.

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Speaker 7: So we don't know.

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Speaker 15: I've talked to current just farment officials before this was announced,

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Speaker 15: and they were all hiring lawyers.

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Speaker 16: Do you think, I mean, given the record of what

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Speaker 16: she's done and what she said, and you know sort

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Speaker 16: of where her loyalties lie, do you imagine that that's

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Speaker 16: going to have a tangible result on the staffing at

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Speaker 16: the Department of Justice and people you're saying they're lawyering up.

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Speaker 16: Jack Smith is leaving. Do you think that there's going

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Speaker 16: to be an exodus, a significant exodus if someone like

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Speaker 16: Panbondi is the head of the DOJ.

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Speaker 15: With Gates, we did not hear about a significant eccidence,

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Speaker 15: And he was much more of a sort of in

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Speaker 15: your face, you know, person who like you, investigative me.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm going to vesiate you.

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Speaker 15: I don't think people are going to leave, and you're

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Speaker 15: hearing this in different government departments, that they're going to stay,

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Speaker 15: They're going to follow rules, they're not going to violate,

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Speaker 15: you know, procedures, are not going to violate the law.

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Speaker 3: Many of them can't leave.

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Speaker 15: They don't make a lot of money in Washington, and

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Speaker 15: they're all sort of waiting for pensions and paying off mortgages.

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Speaker 3: So and then it's two scenarios.

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Speaker 15: It could be a special counsel who would be appointed

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Speaker 15: by Trump and by Pam Bondi if she's confirmed, that

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Speaker 15: would carry out long investigations.

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Speaker 3: And another thing they're pushing.

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Speaker 15: Out hard is sort of firing is a belief that

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Speaker 15: there's all these liberals embedded in the career workers who

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Speaker 15: work for Republicans and Democrats. You know, I haven't found

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Speaker 15: that in my reporting, but they could be trying to

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Speaker 15: force out a lot of those people.

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Speaker 3: But many, many.

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Speaker 15: People, they don't think they'll be convicted, you know, Jack Smith,

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Speaker 15: they didn't do anything proper, but they're expecting long legal battles,

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Speaker 15: more congressional investigations, and they're wiring up.

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Speaker 13: Yo.

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Speaker 9: They don't think they'll be convicted. The reason they don't

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Speaker 9: think they'll be convicted is that it will be they't have to.

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Speaker 7: A lot of these have take place in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 9: And a course of these juries that are ninety nine

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Speaker 9: percent progressive left win democrats, all made up on government employees.

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Speaker 9: Are people that suck on the government tit here in

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Speaker 9: the Imperial Capital.

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Speaker 7: That's the only that's.

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Speaker 9: With these radical judges that ought to be cleaned out

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Speaker 9: of the DC DC circuit right in the DC district judges,

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Speaker 9: which is the most corrupt judiciary in the nation.

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Speaker 7: They don't think they will be convicted. Didn't say they.

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Speaker 9: Haven't done anything wrong, didn't say they didn't have crimes.

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Speaker 9: Jeff Clark, And this is my point, you better lawyer up.

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Speaker 9: You got and the guys leaving the country leave the country.

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Speaker 9: You see any of us leave the country. No, and

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Speaker 9: you bankrupted. Look at many people got bankrupt. Rudy's just

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Speaker 9: the top many many people have been bankrupt in this process,

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Speaker 9: millions of dollars in legal fees. You better lawyer up, folks,

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Speaker 9: because you've committed grievous crimes. And hey, he says, oh

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Speaker 9: they want to stay, You're not going to. We're going

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Speaker 9: to take a trenching tool and dig you out. The

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Speaker 9: deep state is not going to exist. We're going to

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Speaker 9: hit it with a blowtorch. They're going to fight, and

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Speaker 9: they're going to fight hard. Jeff Clark. And one of

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Speaker 9: the best ways we got it is this magnificent and

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Speaker 9: it's already controversial. Pens and these guys are already coming

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Speaker 9: at you're seeing all The great thing about a process

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Speaker 9: like this exposes all the rats, right, So walk me

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Speaker 9: through first what you just saw there with McCabe and

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Speaker 9: all these reporters saying, oh my gosh, over a justice.

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Speaker 7: They're all worried about this.

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Speaker 9: You need people over there that cannot just shake up

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Speaker 9: that building because it's a systemic problem. It's just not

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Speaker 9: about a few bad apples. Murdoch and Fox are going

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Speaker 9: to give you always this simplistic response, it's a few

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Speaker 9: bad apples. You take a few bad apples that no,

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Speaker 9: we have a systems problem in MSNBC and Tim Miller,

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Speaker 9: particularly Smart and Alex Wager that they know we've boxed

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Speaker 9: them into back, We've boxed them into a corner.

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Speaker 7: They have to defend the indefensible.

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Speaker 9: This is why their democracy move in the election failed,

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Speaker 9: because the American people understand this is not working. And

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Speaker 9: more importantly, we can't afford it. We can't afford a

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Speaker 9: destructive system. Jeff Clark, Steve.

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Speaker 10: Look, the FBI needs structural reform, and it needs it,

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Speaker 10: you know, not just yesterday, but last year or four

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Speaker 10: years ago, etc.

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Speaker 3: It's been trending in a very bad direction.

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Speaker 10: It needs to be carefully supervised and needs to be

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Speaker 10: restructured so that woke democrats are not running all parts

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Speaker 10: of it and running it to run political vindictiveness operations,

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Speaker 10: trying to disproportionately destroy conservatives and maga and populists and

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Speaker 10: religious people around the country.

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Speaker 3: And there's evidence that they were doing all of those things.

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Speaker 10: We need an audit right when the Trump administration comes

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Speaker 10: in of all of their political enforcement cases coming out

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Speaker 10: of their public integrity units, both in DJ's Criminal Division.

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Speaker 3: And in the FBI, and how they work together.

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Speaker 10: And I want to tell you about, you know, a

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Speaker 10: dangerous idea I've seen floating around in conservative inc circles

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Speaker 10: of trying to, you know, say that you can get

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Speaker 10: better FBI accountability if you only place it under a

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Speaker 10: du ver it And let me explain what that is.

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Speaker 10: So specifically, in this instance, it's a proposal to put

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Speaker 10: part of the FBI under the supervision of the Assistant

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Speaker 10: Attorney General for the Criminal Division and part of the

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Speaker 10: FBI under the supervision of the Assistant Attorney General for

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Speaker 10: National Security and Steve. I know that you are a

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Speaker 10: student of history like I am, and you know that

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Speaker 10: none of the Roman due over it's worked out very well.

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Speaker 10: What they led to was instability. They only lasted, you know,

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Speaker 10: less than a decade. The first one with uh with

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Speaker 10: Caesar POMPEII and Crassis, and then the second one with

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Speaker 10: Octavian failed as well.

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Speaker 3: Right, like these struck don't work.

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Speaker 10: What we need is the full on medicine of the

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Speaker 10: unitary executive. The president is in charge of the executive branch,

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Speaker 10: and there needs to be a pyramid up to him,

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Speaker 10: you know, just like he's the person where the ultimate

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Speaker 10: buck stops on his desk, as Harry Truman said, there

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Speaker 10: needs to be someone for whom you know, the buck

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Speaker 10: ultimately stops in each of the cabinet.

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Speaker 3: Agencies and the key components like the FBI, So you

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Speaker 3: know what they want.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Hang on one second hand, I want to make

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Speaker 9: sure the audience understands this. In this unitary executive theory, right,

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Speaker 9: it's not trying to make They're not trying to make

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Speaker 9: it supremacy over the legislative or judicial, but inside the

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Speaker 9: even inside the executive. Remember the Constitution lays out he's

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Speaker 9: the chief executive of the government, he's the commander in

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Speaker 9: chief of the armed forces, and he's wait for it,

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Speaker 9: the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer.

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Speaker 7: I understand the MSBC.

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Speaker 9: They want to make that some moderate to left wing

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Speaker 9: attorney general like Mary Garland and some curt and that's

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Speaker 9: not how it worked. These are these post Wartergate kind

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Speaker 9: of ideas that seeped into the system so that the

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Speaker 9: Democrats could run the town. Right now with Brennan and

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Speaker 9: mcaby and these guys talk about is a check in

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Speaker 9: balance inside the executive by the deep state in the

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Speaker 9: administrative state. That's not going to happen. That is over

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Speaker 9: we're finishing that. You don't get a check in balance

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Speaker 9: over at the FBI because Brennan runs CIA and Kobe

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Speaker 9: runs FBI. You get a check over who the people

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Speaker 9: elected to be president of the United States?

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Speaker 7: Are you kidding me, Clark? Isn't that the problem we have?

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Speaker 9: The permanent government thinks they have a check over This

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Speaker 9: is why we are the true believers in the democratic process,

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Speaker 9: and they actually believe they're anti democratic to their core

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Speaker 9: because they think they have a check on the executive

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Speaker 9: branch side against the chief executive, the commander in chief,

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Speaker 9: and the chief magistrate, a guy called the President of

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Speaker 9: the United States, Jeff Clark.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Steve.

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Speaker 10: Our constitutional structure is to have three branches of government.

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Speaker 10: The President, who is the only branch that is one person.

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Speaker 10: Then there is Congress split into two houses to protect liberty,

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Speaker 10: and then there are the courts to decide particular cases

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Speaker 10: in the application of law to fact. Those are coequal branches.

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Speaker 10: But what they have done with this administrative state, which

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Speaker 10: started in the progressive era, the theorizing for it and

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Speaker 10: people like Woodrow Wilson, and then really metastasized.

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Speaker 3: Under the New Deal era, and then.

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Speaker 10: You know, got to the point where it's really out

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Speaker 10: of control after the Nixon administration and then they started

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Speaker 10: not even doing changes to the Constitution.

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Speaker 3: Or the statutes anymore. There were just new norms.

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Speaker 10: Is an idea that this fourth branch which they have

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Speaker 10: functionally created, is coequal.

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Speaker 3: To the president or in reality, you know, as you can.

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Speaker 10: Tell from watching these people like McCabe and John Brennan,

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Speaker 10: you know, John Bolton, et cetera. They think that this

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Speaker 10: fourth branch is actually the superior to the president, that

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Speaker 10: the president I want to reduce the presently to what

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Speaker 10: you know, Woodrow Wilson wanted to reduce it to, except

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Speaker 10: for you know, his transitional era, trying to get there

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Speaker 10: where it's kind of a ceremonial office that it, you know,

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Speaker 10: is kind of a presider in chief, but not the

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Speaker 10: chief magistrate, not the chief executive, not the commander in chief.

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Speaker 3: The military should really be.

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Speaker 10: Ruled by the likes of you know, the Mark Millies

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Speaker 10: that flit around. And this is not the system the

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Speaker 10: Framers gave us in order to have the energy and

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Speaker 10: dispatch and control and accountability that the system you know,

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Speaker 10: gives us. Because the president, he has direct legitimacy across

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Speaker 10: the entire country, because the people vote for the electors

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Speaker 10: who put him in office. All of the career bureaucracy,

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Speaker 10: you know, the ninety nine point nine percent of all

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Speaker 10: the people who are gs xyz s, whether you know ten, eleven,

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Speaker 10: twelve up to fifteen or the ses, all of these.

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Speaker 3: People are not elected.

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Speaker 10: They're all accountable to the president, and the president has

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Speaker 10: to direct them, and they just try to create so

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Speaker 10: many different systems.

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Speaker 3: I call it political science disease. Using their new modern.

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Speaker 10: Political science ideas, they try to frustrate the system of

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Speaker 10: the constitution that the genius Framers gave us.

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Speaker 7: Jeff, can you hang on for one second. I want

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Speaker 7: to keep you here.

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Speaker 9: We got the whole thing on the recess appointments, but

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Speaker 9: I also want to talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 9: this fourth branch of government, the administrative state, in its

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Speaker 9: rogue element, the deep state, about how they've really created

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Speaker 9: something that has its own courts, it has its own

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Speaker 9: ability to execute, and it has really its own ability

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Speaker 9: to legislate through rules. It's an it's an entire government

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Speaker 9: within a government, and we're at war with that, and

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Speaker 9: we're going to take it down. Okay, We're going to

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Speaker 9: take it down like Carthage. We're gonna take it like

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Speaker 9: the Romans took Carthage. Now we're gonna take it down,

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Speaker 9: and we're gonna salt the earth around it. Short commercial break,

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Speaker 9: I think globally, you got the Russians talking about taking

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Speaker 9: out American missile sites in Poland.

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Speaker 7: As the bre in Ukraine metastasizes.

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Speaker 9: The International Criminal Court has said that the Prime Minister

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Speaker 9: not driving that the elites are driving the destruction of

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Speaker 9: the dollar, but go check it out. Understand today back

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Speaker 9: with Jeff Clark on the war against the administrative state.

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Speaker 9: In addition to Birch, we also need all the more

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Speaker 9: and posse at the ramparts. You can tell this is

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Speaker 9: monetize that eighty percent of your networks there. Think about it,

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Speaker 9: thousand dollars. Second they take the cash you got to

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Speaker 9: pay it off. You're done. You're wrapped around the axle.

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Speaker 9: You're no longer got time to go to the ramparts.

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Speaker 9: Go check it out today home title lock dot Com.

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Speaker 9: Natalie Domingus and the team over there show you all types,

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Speaker 9: all types of examples and what you can do about it. Clark,

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Speaker 9: and this is where I bring the Clark's. I went

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Speaker 9: to a trade school at Harvard. I just got my

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Speaker 9: union card over at the business school. Clark's actually educated.

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Speaker 9: He went to the college Clark, you know. And Pasovac

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Speaker 9: sends me from Gibbons, Decline and Fall. After sacking the city,

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Speaker 9: the Romans burned it to the ground, leaving no not

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Speaker 9: one stone on top of another, and then salted the

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Speaker 9: earth around it. That's what they thought the poison of

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Speaker 9: Carthage in regards to them. You talk about the trerembrates

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Speaker 9: unable to actually decide and have a unitary kind of leader.

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Speaker 9: The Republic fell and came to an empire. This is

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Speaker 9: the fight right now, this audience. You're the rebel forces.

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Speaker 9: You're you're the you're the anti imperial where anti system

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Speaker 9: and and and Tim Miller, and and Alex Wagner and

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Speaker 9: Chris Hayes, the smart ones over MSNBC understand we've jammed

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Speaker 9: him up. They're defenders of an imperial system that our

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Speaker 9: founders and the revolutionary generation and fought against. And they

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Speaker 9: also had enough wisdom to understand with the potentiality of

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Speaker 9: North America that it could lead to empire. And you

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Speaker 9: had some guys like Hamilton, who's probably the most brain

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Speaker 9: of them all, that hey, maybe he was thinking, maybe

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Speaker 9: this is not a bad deal. Maybe we ought to

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Speaker 9: just copy what the British are doing, but do it

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Speaker 9: our way. That's what we're fighting here. This is metastasizing

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Speaker 9: to an imperial power. That's the administrative state. Talk about

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Speaker 9: the fourth branch, the administrative state, because what they've created

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Speaker 9: since the progressive era, but really since the New Deal

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Speaker 9: in World War two is in broad daylight. The fourth

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Speaker 9: branch of government does everything. They have their own ability,

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Speaker 9: They have their rules. They really legislate because the laws

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Speaker 9: are written, but they're kind of general.

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Speaker 7: They put the rules in that define it. Okay. They

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Speaker 7: have their legislative branch.

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Speaker 9: Then they have their executive branch, including their own enforcement

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Speaker 9: IRASE got enforcement, EPA's got enforcement. And they have their

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Speaker 9: own courts. They don't have an entire administrative court system.

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Speaker 9: They have a court system bigger than the regular court

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Speaker 9: system already.

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Speaker 7: Even knows about Clark.

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Speaker 9: So that you do literally have a fourth branch of

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Speaker 9: government that is an entire government within a government.

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Speaker 7: Sir.

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Speaker 10: So Steve, yes, the administrative state and the deep state,

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Speaker 10: which are closely allied. And I'll talk about the differences

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Speaker 10: between them as I see it in a second. But look,

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Speaker 10: I'm also a student of Latin, and so given how

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Speaker 10: you started this segment, I have three Latin words for you, Carthago,

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Speaker 10: delenda st Carthage must be destroyed. And there were speeches

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Speaker 10: on the Senate floor, you know, in their republic era,

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Speaker 10: where that was how each speech was ended in order

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Speaker 10: to ensure that that which was such a threat to

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Speaker 10: the republic was overthrown destroyed, we need to get back

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Speaker 10: to the unitary executive system.

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Speaker 3: And accountability is one of the main reasons why.

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Speaker 10: Right, if you have you know, agencies and all these

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Speaker 10: accountability are, it always turns into a kind of this situation,

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Speaker 10: right what you know, where is the person who actually

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Speaker 10: made this decision under the p It's like a shell

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Speaker 10: game and that needs to end. It needs to be

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Speaker 10: a system that goes directly up to the president in

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Speaker 10: a pyramid. That's what the Framers gave us. So what

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Speaker 10: has frustrated that. There's one Supreme Court case that has

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Speaker 10: frustrated that more than anything else, and it's led to

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Speaker 10: the fusion of all three sets of powers, the executive power,

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Speaker 10: the legislative power, and the judicial power in one agency.

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Speaker 3: It's a case called Humphreys Executor.

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Speaker 10: And it was decided, you know, to try to like

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Speaker 10: brush back the New Deal. Ironically, and the so called

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Speaker 10: four Horsemen of the Apocalypse who were standing in the

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Speaker 10: way of the New Deal, they thought that by trying

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Speaker 10: to keep in power a conservative head of the Federal

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Speaker 10: Trade Mission and not having be removed by Roosevelt and

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Speaker 10: replaced by a leftist that they were doing good for

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Speaker 10: all the tools they needed to create these things called

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Speaker 10: independent agencies. And it's what led to this fusion of

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Speaker 10: three powers which the Framers and Montesque, the originator of

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Speaker 10: separation of powers theory, recognizes the very definition of tieranny

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Speaker 10: if you confuse all those three powers in one. So

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Speaker 10: the FPC, yes, it has the power to pass new regulations.

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Speaker 10: That's the law making function, to apply them to people,

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Speaker 10: that's the law enforcement function. And then to adjudicate the

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Speaker 10: cases in front of their own administrative law judges. And

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Speaker 10: then it goes up to the Board hunt appeal. Only

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Speaker 10: after that is it judicially reviewed. The Supreme Court has

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Speaker 10: been striking blows against this system, but Humphrey's executor needs

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Speaker 10: to come down, and I'd like to see the second

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Speaker 10: trunk term not end before it is brought down.

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Speaker 3: And just last term in the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 10: One other case to mention to you, it's a big

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Speaker 10: case called SEC versus Jarcasy, and the Supreme Court held

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Speaker 10: that the SEC could not run its own court system

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Speaker 10: anymore for anything.

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Speaker 3: That was a common law fraud. That needs to go

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Speaker 3: to the regular article three courts.

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Speaker 9: That was a Security and Exchange commission at the Southeast Conference. Jeff,

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Speaker 9: can you hang on because we've still got really the

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Speaker 9: work I had you come on for, which is this

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Speaker 9: massive analysis you've done of how President Trump could be

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Speaker 9: the driver of the action in regards to in regards

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Speaker 9: to recess appointments.

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Speaker 7: An amazing analysis you've done. It'll be up.

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Speaker 9: I think shortly we're going to take a short commercial break.

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Speaker 9: Phillip's gonna be with me for at least thirty minutes tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: Nine ninety eight.

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Speaker 9: So go check it out today, Okay, pack second hour.

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Speaker 9: Natalie's going to join us, norm Iisen and the Resistance.

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Speaker 9: We're going to talk about judges. I think a deal

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Speaker 9: was cut on Capitol Hill. People are fleeing here to

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Speaker 9: go for Thanksgiving already, so I don't think they're'll be here,

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Speaker 9: you know, chopping wood every day. But they are down

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Speaker 9: at the Transition in West Palm Beach and at mar

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Speaker 9: Lago and also up here at the nation's capital.

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Speaker 7: We'll get it.

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Speaker 9: All to you, Jeff, Car's gonna stick around next in

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Speaker 9: the world.

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Speaker 10: I'm