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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The wishing and hoping and thinking

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Speaker 1: NFL by climbing into a first place tie with Baltimore

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Speaker 1: after the first seven weeks of the season, coming up,

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to the person I consider to be the

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Speaker 1: best ever at calling football games on the radio, Kevin Harlan. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: of course, also calls games on TV, and he'll have

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Speaker 1: the Bengals and Ravens this week on CBS. My one

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Speaker 1: on one player interview is with rookie Chris Evans, who

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Speaker 1: had a huge game last week in the same stadium

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Speaker 1: remarkable story. Dave Lapplom joins me to discuss the latest

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Speaker 1: Bengals news and share some keys to beating Baltimore. And finally,

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Speaker 1: it's our Know the Faux segment as we discuss Lamar

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Speaker 1: Brad Jax. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals,

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Speaker 1: a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition

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Speaker 1: greatest thing since the kindness of Kevin Harlan. You'll hear

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Speaker 1: my interview with him in just a moment, but first

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Speaker 1: a quick story. Kevin's been a friend of mine for

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Speaker 1: now you You might say that Kevin Harlan has regard

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Speaker 1: for human life. Look it up. Now here's our conversation.

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Speaker 1: He has my son, Sam's favorite broadcaster, and Sam has

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Speaker 1: Kevin Harlan, Kevin, great to have you on with us.

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Speaker 1: You called the Bengals game in Week three when they

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Speaker 1: watching them play. What's your reaction. I can understand totally

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Speaker 1: what he's saying. They're both Joe cool as well. I

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Speaker 1: mean they have the same type of demeanor. Joe Montana

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Speaker 1: never changed expression, Joe Barrow never changed his expression. The

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Speaker 1: more crunch time of a game, the lower their heart

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Speaker 1: rate gets. I mean they have they have a lot

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Speaker 1: of similarities. I think. I think Phil Simms is onto

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Speaker 1: something as he usually is. Plus, you know, he is

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Speaker 1: a great quarterback himself, so he knows what he's looking

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Speaker 1: at there in terms of physical attributes the quarterbacks have

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Speaker 1: and what leads to success and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: I can't disagree. And um, you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: it and you say, man, what about the football intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana's was way up there. Joe Burrows is way

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Speaker 1: up there as well. I mean there's there's a ton

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Speaker 1: of similarities. Now, I just hope that that Zach Taylor

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Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow have the same kind of run that

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Speaker 1: Bill Walsh and Joe Montana had. That would be nice. Um.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, there's there's a lot of extenuating circumstances.

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Speaker 1: A surrounded quarterback that leads to you know, his overall success,

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Speaker 1: but raw talent, standpoint, intangibles, physical attributes. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of similarities. I agree with them. Joe Montana cost you

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring as a player. It would be

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Speaker 1: nice if Joe Burrow allowed you to call a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl title. Absolutely, he lost me a ring and also

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Speaker 1: lost me a victory as a broadcaster when they lost

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty three as well to Joe Montana led

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Speaker 1: minnesot excuse me to San Francisco forty nine ers. Bill

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Speaker 1: Walsh and Joe Montana have some hardware like to have,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure, all right. Let's transition to Jamaar Chase.

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Speaker 1: In Week one, with thirty five seconds left and a half,

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Speaker 1: he catches a fifty yard touchdown pass against the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals lead by seven at halftime. Week three, a

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Speaker 1: thirty four yard touchdown pass with thirty seven seconds left

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Speaker 1: in the half in Pittsburgh. The Bengals lead that game

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Speaker 1: fourteen seven at a half. Week five, thirty six seconds

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Speaker 1: left and a half a seventy yard touchdown pass to

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Speaker 1: pull the Bengals within two. Against Green Bay last week,

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Speaker 1: seventeen seconds left and a half a thirty four yard

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Speaker 1: catch sets up a field goal as the half expires.

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Speaker 1: These are incredibly important plays. What has Jamaar Chase meant

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Speaker 1: to this team through six games? I mean a ton,

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Speaker 1: it really has. I mean, you look at it. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about a trend. I mean, all all those plays

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Speaker 1: happen in six and six, his first six games of

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Speaker 1: his NFL career. It's just it's it's remarkable how those

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Speaker 1: guys um they're on They're on the same mental telepathy,

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Speaker 1: you know, and they're on the same wavelength. Some of

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Speaker 1: those plays were designed, some of those plays it was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna come all the way

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Speaker 1: across the football field and create a play and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna run in the same directions as Joe Burrows running,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make myself available to him and see

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Speaker 1: if he finds me. And it's just amazing what they

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Speaker 1: have going on. And they have complete trust in each other,

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Speaker 1: complete faith in each other that they can they can

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Speaker 1: make those kind of plays, and they're going to continue

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Speaker 1: to make those kind of plays. I think. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're the biggest reason. You look at the numbers two

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Speaker 1: minutes before half five of the six games, three touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: two field goals that they've scored. It's really Joe Barrow

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Speaker 1: or Jamar Chase. The only other team that's done what

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Speaker 1: the Bengals have done at the end of the second

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Speaker 1: quarter to be in the third quarter the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: Other teams have been one of the other Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: shows up in the top five along with the Bengals

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Speaker 1: in both categories. You start getting compared to Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That's high cotton. Next topic,

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Speaker 1: Chris Evans. He got significant playing time for the first

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Speaker 1: time last week since some i JP Ryan was on

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Speaker 1: the COVID list. Caught a touchdown pass on the opening drive,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals first opening drive score of the year. He

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Speaker 1: had three special teams tack on. He had a great

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Speaker 1: blitz pick up on the fifty three yard pass. Did

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase what do you think that's going to mean

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Speaker 1: to his playing time going forward? Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 1: think there was a lot of motivation and for him,

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Speaker 1: you know, playing up in Detroit, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of personal motivation. I mean, you know, going back to

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Speaker 1: his collegiate career, what happened to him at Michigan, and

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Speaker 1: you know, things he was doing at that stadium as

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Speaker 1: a result of what happened to him at Michigan as

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Speaker 1: he's working you know, in the security team, trying to

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Speaker 1: raise money for a charitable cause. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just remarkable. So I think he had a you know,

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Speaker 1: in his mind, he had a lot on the line

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Speaker 1: personally and individually. Now the key for him is going

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Speaker 1: to be that that was his own like mini super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Now he's going to have to say, all right, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna have to that's the bar that I'm

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Speaker 1: going to have to try to get to every single week,

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Speaker 1: and the coaches are going to be able to count

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Speaker 1: on me for that kind of production on a week

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Speaker 1: by week basis. You know, doing it once is phenomenal,

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Speaker 1: but don't be in one trick pony. Don't do it once.

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Speaker 1: Continue to do it, you know, again and again and again,

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Speaker 1: and that's when you really start to earn a confidence

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Speaker 1: of the coaches and they can trust what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's got the capability to do it.

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Speaker 1: I think he's he's an unbelievable route runner and has

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Speaker 1: got ball skills as good as you know a lot

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Speaker 1: of wide receivers in the in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: And he's shown that he's got the intelligence and they

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Speaker 1: want to to be good in blitz pick up. He's

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Speaker 1: he's going to be, I think, another weapon to this

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Speaker 1: offense that already has so many weapons. You start throwing

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Speaker 1: him in there in the mix as well, My goodness, man,

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Speaker 1: it's going to become a snootful to try to defend.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people scoff when they hear

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Speaker 1: coaches talked about running backs and say, hey, there's more

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Speaker 1: to it than running the ball. They've got to be

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Speaker 1: able to handle the blitz. Why is that such an

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Speaker 1: important thing in the NFL in particular. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's where you can get your quarterbacks in a lot

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Speaker 1: of trouble, you know, with free runners and unnecessary hits

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Speaker 1: and open up a new canter quarterbacks. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen many times where you know, young

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Speaker 1: running backs will go the wrong way, the exact opposite

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Speaker 1: of what they should be doing. They just totally you know,

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Speaker 1: in their mind inverted and have those kind of issues,

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Speaker 1: and you get guys that are just bearing down on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the quarterback initially thinks that it's going

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Speaker 1: to get taken care of. So now it's like if

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Speaker 1: there's a reaction at all, it's a very late reaction.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh man, that was a that was a

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Speaker 1: brain cramp there, but there's nothing I can do about

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00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: it now. So, um if that, quarterbacks and coaches get

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Speaker 1: queasy when when those kind of things happen. So he

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00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: has shown that he understands it, understands all the concepts

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Speaker 1: that go along with why he's doing what he's doing

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Speaker 1: in blitz pick up, and he's he's able to execute

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Speaker 1: it physically, So that that was the final component. I

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Speaker 1: think now that they feel comfortable that he can execute

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Speaker 1: that part of things, I think this guy's going to

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00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: be the limit for him. Let's turn to the Bengals defense,

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00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: fifth in the NFL and points allowed number two and

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Speaker 1: yards allowed per play. However, they have not faced a

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Speaker 1: prolific offense yet. Even the Packers are fifteenth and scoring

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Speaker 1: twenty thirds in yards so far this year. The Steelers, Jags, Lions,

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Speaker 1: and Bears are all in the bottom ten in scoring.

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Speaker 1: Is the Bengals defense really good or have they feasted

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Speaker 1: on offenses that aren't. Yeah, They're going to see much

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Speaker 1: better offenses than they've seen, There's no question about it.

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Speaker 1: And that's including this upcoming opponent. I think schematically that

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Speaker 1: Greg Roman has done a phenomenal job building an offense

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Speaker 1: around the talents that Lamar Jackson has instead of going

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Speaker 1: the other way trying to cram him into a pro

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Speaker 1: style offense that, particularly early in his career when he

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Speaker 1: came from college to the National Football League might have

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Speaker 1: been very, very difficult for him. He's basically said, all right,

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Speaker 1: I know what his major attributes are with his skill set,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to build and create around that. And

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Speaker 1: I think he did him an enormous favor and it

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Speaker 1: goes I mean, Bishotti, the owners needs to take some credit.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ozzy Knewsom that the general manager at the

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Speaker 1: time when he was he was drafted, Ozzy said, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is this the last pick of the draft. I

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Speaker 1: got I gotta jump on this guy. This guy, this

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00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: guy's too good. Eric de Costa has been involved in

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Speaker 1: the thing, John Harbaugh, Greg Roman, I mean the entire

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Speaker 1: organization made a commitment to building an offense around Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson and has paid huge dividends. I mean, this offense

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Speaker 1: has got a lot going on. I mean there are

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Speaker 1: as creative in the running game in terms of personnel formations, motion,

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Speaker 1: window dressing. They can do a lot of things. I

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Speaker 1: mean they can run the option, they can run a

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Speaker 1: power running game. And then not to mention, when he's

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Speaker 1: throwing the football, and he's better throwing the football than

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Speaker 1: people think, and he has gotten better every single year.

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Speaker 1: When he gets out and extension creates, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to defend the first play and then there's

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Speaker 1: a second play a lot of times that you have

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Speaker 1: to defend because it's Lamar Jackson doing what he's doing

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Speaker 1: in the magic that he's spinning out there. So puts

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on a defense. And this will

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Speaker 1: be the biggest challenge the Bengals have had defensively in

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Speaker 1: terms of, you know, trust your eyes, make sure that

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Speaker 1: you're where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to

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Speaker 1: be there, and have confidence doing it, because hesitancy is

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Speaker 1: the worst thing. If you're like stuck in your mind

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Speaker 1: between a rock and a hard place. Should I do this?

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Speaker 1: So should I do that? And you don't do anything,

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Speaker 1: you're killing the football team. You have to make a decision,

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Speaker 1: be confident it's the right decision, and go one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand miles an hour and so doing. We've got some

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Speaker 1: roster news on Wednesday, as second year offensive lineman came

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Speaker 1: identity was cleared to practice. He tore a pectoral muscle

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Speaker 1: during OTA's I thought he was out for the year.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. Can he help? I think he can.

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Speaker 1: I think that. You know, it is the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the evaluation process for him, because, like Zach Taylor was

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Speaker 1: saying this week, you know, he hasn't even put pads

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Speaker 1: on yet. He did it in training as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: in the offseason toward the pectoral. So he hasn't really

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Speaker 1: had any live activity on the practice field with Frank

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Speaker 1: Pollock with his new techniques and everything else. Now, he

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Speaker 1: has been very diligent you know, as a as a

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Speaker 1: student of that mentally doing that kind of thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's been all over it. I was standing right next

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Speaker 1: to him a training camp. A lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of the practices the Frank was out there at the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. He was he was soaking it all in

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Speaker 1: so and he's a pretty intelligent kid. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's going to be a huge issue. But it's

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Speaker 1: just going to be back to you know, now you

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Speaker 1: have to get those guys. Think of all the reps

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Speaker 1: they've had Dan muscle memory wise, I mean thousands of

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Speaker 1: reps all through training camp now six games going into

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Speaker 1: the seventh, you know, game of the season. The footwork

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00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: and the hand place and all that is like automatic

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00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: second nature with him. It's not quite yet, so he's

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Speaker 1: got some catching up to do, you know, in that regard.

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Speaker 1: But he's a talented kid. I mean, he's got some

642
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: sweet feet now. I think he's got as good feet

643
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: as any offensive line they got on the football team.

644
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see how quickly he

645
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 1: can progress and how far he can progress. So it's

646
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: the Bengals and Ravens this week. Baltimore is the only

647
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: five and one team in the AFC. There were four

648
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: in the NFC, plus the Cardinals who are six and o,

649
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: but Baltimore is the only five and one team in

650
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: the AFC. Having said that they could be maybe even

651
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: should be three and three. They kicked a sixty six

652
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: yard field goal at the gun to beat the Lions

653
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: in Detroit two weeks ago. If Colts kicker Rodrigo black

654
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: and Ship didn't hurt his hip during the pregame warmups,

655
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: there's probably no way they come back from a sixteen

656
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: point deficit in the second half. So I guess the

657
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: question is how good is Baltimore and what do the

658
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: Bengals need to do to have a shot this week? Yeah,

659
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: that's that's the big question. How good is Baltimore? You know,

660
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: they're good enough to win those football games in some way,

661
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: shape or form. I think they have, you know, immense

662
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: confidence in themselves. They should, I mean, the organization there

663
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: is they're as strong as anybody in their National Football League.

664
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: And bottom line is they have a quarterback that's thirty

665
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: five and eight in his first forty three starts, and

666
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: you can, you know, evaluate and grade all the things

667
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: you want to grade. The bottom line is scoring points

668
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: and winning football games, you know, and scoring more points

669
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: in the opposition. And he's done that, you know, better

670
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: than anybody since the merger a seventy merger, thirty five

671
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: wins before the age of thirty five. He's the only

672
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: one to do before the excuse me, before the age

673
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: of twenty five. Thirty five wins before the age of

674
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: twenty five, the only one to do it. Dan Marino's

675
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: next with thirty four, but he has won at a

676
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: very very high rate. So I think, you know, they've

677
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: got they've got immense confidence that no matter what the situation,

678
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: whatever the circumstance, they're gonna win the football game, including

679
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: a sixty six yard field goal by the greatest kicker

680
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: ever playing in the National Football League, in my opinion,

681
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: justin Tucker, when things like that happen, you know, you say, wow,

682
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, maybe destined, Maybe this is uh, this is

683
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: our year. Maybe we are in for something uh special.

684
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: But as a as a team that's watching it as

685
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: an opponent, you say, they're not invincible. You know, they

686
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: have to they have to pull rabbits out of the

687
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: hat to win football games. You know, we can beat

688
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: these guys. We need to go out there and what

689
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: the Bengals need to do Dan is uh is most

690
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: specifically than anything and this matchup is win the turnover battle.

691
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: You know, as we know, it's been it's been crazy,

692
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: uh When the Bengals win the turnover battle in this

693
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: matchup against the Rains, they're fourteen and three when they don't.

694
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: When they don't, they're two and twenty. So that's the reverse.

695
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: When when Baltimore wins the turnover battle, they're twenty and two.

696
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: When they lose it, they're three and fourteen. And then

697
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: the Bengals when it's even Stephen, the Bengals haven't had

698
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: seven seven four. So the bottom line is you don't

699
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: want to be negative. You want to be even or

700
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: plus in the turnover ratio. Uh first and four almost

701
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: against these Baltimore Ravens. And then you know things like

702
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: they're on both sides of the football, they're going to

703
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: do something they haven't done all season long. So you

704
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: have to know your rules and you have to be

705
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: able to apply your rules. The great Paul Brown when

706
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: he was coaching, I can vividly remember him saying, men,

707
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: we've got a few rules here that we know are

708
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: going to be able to apply to a myriad of

709
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: different things that are going to happen to you out

710
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: in the football field. And that's the key with this

711
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore raven deal, because they have all these different personnel

712
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: groups and formations and window dressing motion everything offensively defensively.

713
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: They are all different kinds of personnel packages and blitz

714
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: packages and everything that goes along with it. And they

715
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: blitz like forty five percent of the time. They've led

716
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: the National Football League and blitz percentage the last three

717
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: years and right now I think they're in the top

718
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: four in terms of blitzing. So you know, you know

719
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: they're going to come from everywhere. So I think if

720
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: the coaches can come up with some sort of a

721
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: game planer that has rules in it to say, all right,

722
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: no matter what they do, we've got a core bunch

723
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: of plays we can go to. When it starts to

724
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: hit the fan, we can just say we're going to

725
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: one of these guys, and we have all these rules

726
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: that apply to everything, particularly on the road when it's loud,

727
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: everybody's losing their mind. You know, if you've got if

728
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: you've got a handful of plays that no matter what

729
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: the circumstance they line up in, you can go execute

730
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: and feel confident that at least you can, you know,

731
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: hang in there, that's I think a big key in

732
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: this football game. And they have to, you know, they

733
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: have to be able to find I think that kind

734
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: of formula. You know, no no turnovers, minimize penalties, minimize explosives,

735
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, all all the things you have to do.

736
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: You can't let Lamar Jackson run all over the place.

737
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the last time these two teams played, the

738
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: Ravens only got four hundred and four yards Russian. I mean,

739
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: my goodness, you know, four football fields on the ground.

740
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: That's that's I don't know, high school college mismatch stuff

741
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen in the National Football League, and it's

742
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: not going to happen this week. I think, you know,

743
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be. I think it's going to be

744
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: a really good football game. I think it'll probably come

745
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: down to the gun. I think it'll be a one

746
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: score game, and I think it's going to be one

747
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: of those one of those type of slugfests that that

748
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: you see in this division. When c j Uzamo was

749
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: asked about handling Baltimore's blitzing, he said, I feel good

750
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: about it because we have the smartest guy on the field,

751
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: obviously referring to Joe Burrow. But last year, when Joe

752
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Burrow faced the Ravens defense for the one and only time.

753
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: He wasn't around for Game two last year. That was

754
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: the shakiest he's ever looked in an NFL game. How

755
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: much does it help to have seen it once? I

756
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: think it helps. He gets sacked seven times, you get

757
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: hit fifteen times. But if I'm an offensive lineman that

758
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: played in that game, I am personally apologizing to Joe

759
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: Burrow for such a terrible performance because they just miscommunicated.

760
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: There were more free erunners in that game than than

761
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: there was in the Boston Marathon. I mean it's like

762
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: they were everywhere. I mean they were. It was incredible.

763
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: So they tighten that part of it up. And that's

764
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: where I mean the communication and the first of all,

765
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: on both sides of the football, recognition of what the

766
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: hell they're doing to you and being able to communicate

767
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: it up and down the line of scrimmage to each

768
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: other and between position group levels. Defensively, that's going to

769
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: be huge in this football game, and the biggest challenge

770
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: is going to be offensively because of the crowd noise,

771
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: they'll be quiet when the Ravens have the football. Defensively,

772
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: they'll be able to communicate a hell of a lot

773
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: easier than they'll be able to communicate offensively, but recognition

774
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: of what they're doing and be able to pass it

775
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: along and communicate it out is going to be is

776
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: going to be huge because that was that was the

777
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: biggest problem in that football game for Joe Burrow is

778
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: he was ducking and dodging, bobbing and weaving. People are

779
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: all over him. Um and then you know, turn the

780
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: football over as result of it. So it starts up

781
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: front like it always does. And I think if that

782
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: group plays as one, five components playing as one, like

783
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: making that fist that we talk about, I think they'll

784
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: be off to a good start because I trust that

785
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: if you give Joe Burrow an opportunity, he will capitalize.

786
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: If you don't give him an opportunity, He's not superman.

787
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: He's not superhuman. I mean, he can only he can

788
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: only do so much. It doesn't take much chicken pooh

789
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: to erect the chicken salad. You know knows a lot

790
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: of chicken poo in the early States. Is that football

791
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: game last year. That's a good segue to the final

792
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: thing I have for you today. This is something I've

793
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: never shared with you before. I hate tuna fish. The

794
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: smell of tuna fish makes me gag. And you've befriended

795
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: people that sit right in front of our broadcast location

796
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: in Baltimore that inevitably turn around and hand you tuna

797
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: fish sandwiches. Can you tell them this year you like

798
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: roast beef, you like turkey, you like peanut butter and jelly,

799
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: anything but the dreaded tuna fish sandwich. Oh? That that

800
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: group of people, they're just incredible. Man, They're huge, They're

801
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: huge fans. Got to be good buddies with them. Over

802
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: the year. Has been there a lot, Now, I've been

803
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: in Baltimore lot every single year. Yeah, I guess I

804
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: don't know. Can you handle a crab cake? Absolutely? All right? Well,

805
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: maybe we'll just say, hey, you know Baltimore. Baltimore is

806
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: not known for tuna guys, how about a crab legg

807
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: or a crab cake? What do you think about that?

808
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: I will bear that in mind, though, and I will

809
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: not open that tuna fish sandwich if they throw one

810
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: up there, And I will respect my partner and not

811
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: have you feeling queasy before the game. You're a good man.

812
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: It's never been disputed, Thank you, Yes, sir, Let's take

813
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: a closer look at this week's opponent. Lamar Jackson has

814
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: started five games against the Bengals, in one all five.

815
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: The first two were close is Baltimore won by three

816
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: and six points. The last three have not been close.

817
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: The final scores have been forty nine to thirteen, twenty

818
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: seven to three, and thirty eight to three. This year,

819
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens are five and one, but could be maybe

820
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: even should be three and three. Former Ravens and you

821
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: see Bearcats linebacker Brad Jackson joined lapping me on the

822
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: Bengals Game Plan show, and I asked him just how

823
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: good he thinks this year's Ravens are. Well, the record is,

824
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: as you guys know, it is what it is. You know,

825
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: you'd rather be five and one than three and three

826
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: or one to five. We all know how that goes.

827
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: But right now they're still figuring things out. On Defense Week,

828
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: Martinal obviously, who grew up in Dayton, went to Defiance

829
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: and was a Bearcat coach of mine when I played

830
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: at Universe Cincinnati, is our great defensive coordinator here, at

831
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: least for one more year because there he'll probably be

832
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: a head coach in the National Football League in the

833
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: next year or so. But the defense has kind of

834
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: been struggling. There's no you know as the inversion of

835
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: run where they're third against the league against the past,

836
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: which is probably going to be something that could be

837
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: an advantage for the Bengals and Joe Burrow, you know,

838
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: them being twenty fifth in the league and past defense

839
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: has been kind of something that you know has people

840
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: scratching their heads, you know here in Baltimore, but you

841
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: know they stayed aggressive. You have you know what fourteen

842
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: sacks by nine different players. Three of those players with

843
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: sacks are defensive backs. So you know Wink is going

844
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: to draw you know, crazy exotic Rex Ryan type of

845
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: schemes to come at Joe Burrow, who you know, Marlon

846
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: Humphrey said today. I don't know if you guys had

847
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: a chance to hear it, but he gave he gave

848
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: a lot of praise to Joe Burrow from watching the

849
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: film to see that he is a tough guy, guy

850
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: that will standing in there and has actually improved from

851
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: last year to this year and his reason to throw.

852
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: So a lot of compliments out of Baltimore, and even

853
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson said today out here that you know, this

854
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: is not a game that they can take the Bengals lightly,

855
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, maybe in the past, because obviously the last

856
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, three games I think it is, and outscored

857
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen to nineteen. So you know, going

858
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: into the buyeweek coach hardball, uh and obviously the players

859
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: are buying into that. You know, the Bengals are something

860
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: to be reckoned with, obviously because the immense amount of

861
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: talent that they have, uh, you know, on the offensive

862
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: side the ball, and the fact that you know, the

863
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: defense has played pretty well being fifth. I think you

864
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: guys are fifth or six in the league right now,

865
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: which you know, here we are in Baltimore, the defensive

866
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: Star Wars, we're sitting around at eighteen. So um, you know,

867
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot of football have to be played, but those

868
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: are that's the nutshell of what's going on. The offensive

869
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: special the defense is kind of trying to come along.

870
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: And obviously you already talked about Justin Tucker, you know,

871
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: the all world kicker, uh that that has won the

872
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Ravens a few games with some you know, NFL record

873
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: type of kicks you know that he had in Detroit.

874
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: I think one of the interesting mix as you're getting

875
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: ready to play the Baltimore Ravens. You know, you have

876
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: to come out and be physical because the Ravens are

877
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: that's that's for men tally, They're going to hit you

878
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: in the mouth. But then you have to have your

879
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: mind right because Greg Roman gives you so many different

880
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: personnel groupings, formations, motion, window dressing, and then defensively, Don

881
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: Wake Martindale gives you all these different looks, pressure packages.

882
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be on your game mentally,

883
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, man, if you're not. If you're not

884
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: up to snuff mentally, you're in trouble. If you're not

885
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: up to snuff physically, you're in trouble. Some weeks you're

886
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: only you only have to really focus in one area.

887
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: But when you play the Ravens, you have to be

888
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: right mentally, physically, emotionally, every way there is. You're gonna

889
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: have to be right to go up against that football team. Yeah,

890
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: and it was a great points lap. I mean, you

891
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about is what we all know

892
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: is the toughest division in football, you know, for years,

893
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: and that's the AFC North, you know, I mean you're

894
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: talking about you have to have those same type of

895
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, principles, discipline and toughness, being physical, you know, uh,

896
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, making sure that you're handling your business and

897
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: doing your job. You have to do that versus Pittsburgh,

898
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, versus you know, Cleveland is now coming along,

899
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Uh.

900
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: You guys down there, you know, the Queen City, the Bengals,

901
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, now they're not just like, okay, we can

902
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: just roll out of bed and you know, let's just

903
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: take care of business. They'll they'll fold by halftime. You know.

904
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: Now you have to play the entire four quarters. And

905
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: it comes down to me, guys. I think that the

906
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: key of this, and I know talking with Weink Martindale

907
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: is going to be the turnover battle. So you know,

908
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: when you dive into the numbers, I went back and

909
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: looked at it all time. I'm sure you guys, because

910
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: you guys are well versed and your profession as well,

911
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, have already done so. But it's one of

912
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: the things that the team that wins the turnover battle.

913
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: So going off what Lap says, you have to be physical,

914
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: you have to be disciplined, but it also comes down

915
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: to who can take care of the football. We know

916
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: it sounds cliche, you know, got to score more, don't

917
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: turn the football over, win third down. But in this case,

918
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: with these two teams, the Bengals and the Ravens, thirty

919
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: nine all time games going back to nineteen ninety five.

920
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: Obviously the Ravens came in Baltimore ninety six. The whoever

921
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: wins it is thirty four and five. So when the

922
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: Bengals when the turnover battle, they're fourteen and three, and

923
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: when the Ravens win it, they're twenty and two. Conversely,

924
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: you know, this was the one that kind of shot,

925
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: you know, snuck out to me when I was talking

926
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: with Chris Hewitt, you know, former Bearcat teammate, and obviously

927
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: our passing game coordinated here. You know, in Baltimore Underwinke Martindale,

928
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals are actually seven and four when the turnover

929
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: battle is tied. So now you look at the turnovers

930
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: this year, both teams are sitting here, you know, at

931
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: minus two. So all that being said, Lamar having a

932
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: couple of great games against Denver, and obviously what he

933
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: did against Indianapolis coming back for overtime was special, you know,

934
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: but you're looking at a young man that has turned

935
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: the football over and that's one of the keys with

936
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: five interceptions. Yeah, he had two last week versus the Chargers,

937
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: but he's also had five fumble and loss three. So

938
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: that's eight turnovers that Lamar has had himself to go

939
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: along with sixteen sacks so every game the season, six

940
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: of them so far that there's only been one game

941
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: that he hasn't been sacked at least twice. So when

942
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: you pull all that together, physical, being tough, doing your job,

943
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: you also have to really really take care of the

944
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: ball on Sunday, and unfortunately, the turnover battle, especially in

945
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: this case, pretty much is going to determine the outcome.

946
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: Now we know there's the you know, the three you

947
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: know the Ravens won to get the Bengals and the

948
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: two that the Bengals won. You know, but when you

949
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: look at it, you have to take care of the ball.

950
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: So you have to be physically tough. You have to

951
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: do those things because you know it's going to be

952
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: sixty minute dog fights and you have to make sure that,

953
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: especially right now for the Ravens because the team goes

954
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: on their bye week next week and you guys know

955
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: that can kind of be a track game where you're

956
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: already looking about thinking getting out of town, but on

957
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: away for a week or so, getting on, you know,

958
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: getting on the beach somewhere, let the mind and the

959
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: body recover, so you can come in here and be

960
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: a little loose with the football. Maybe drop a couple

961
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: of keys, pick catches on third down, you know, dB,

962
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: maybe bit a little short in this coverage, you know,

963
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: taking a look away and all of a sudden, that

964
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: can be the difference between winning and losing a football

965
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: game and having a good bye week or a sour

966
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: bye week, you know. And conversely for you guys out

967
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: there to be a huge win in the division and

968
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: the maturation process of the young Bengals team with Joe Burrow,

969
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, obviously an up and coming quarterback and who

970
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: I feel will be, you know, a star and a

971
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: big time winner in this league. Our guest is former

972
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: Ravens and UC Bearcats linebacker Brad Jackson, a member the

973
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: UC Athletic Hall of Fame. Let's talk just a moment

974
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson, the MVP of the NFL a couple

975
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: of years ago. So far this year, he's ninth and

976
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: passing yards per game two eighty one. He's seventh in

977
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: the NFL and rushing with three hundred and ninety two yards.

978
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: When teams have success, for lack of a better word,

979
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson, what do they do defensively that works? Well?

980
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: The thing that works the best is obviously you have

981
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: to have your pass rushers be able to get up field,

982
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: but not go past the quarterback. You know, you can't

983
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: go rush after him, even if it's a passing situation,

984
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: because you know, Lamar has the ability to break down defenses.

985
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: Secondaries have the ability. They don't have the ability to

986
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: cover that long. And then he's got a great you know,

987
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: he's synchronized very well and a great relationship with it. Well,

988
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to call his two blankets. You know what

989
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We're about to be on Halloween, and you know,

990
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 1: the great Pumpkin and all that type of stuff, and

991
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, thinking that when you look at it. Marquise

992
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: Brown thirty two catches four eighty six eighty one a

993
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: game fifteen you know per catch. Mark Andrews thirty four

994
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: four sixty eight actually leads the team in reception of

995
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: seventy eight yards, so of the one hundred and thirty

996
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: one completion that Lamar has rown. Sixty six guys have

997
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: going to these two players. So what do you have

998
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: to do. You have to eliminate Mark Andrews because he's

999
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: a huge weapon, you know, and a comfort and a

1000
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: blanket almost like Lyn has had, you know with the

1001
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown crew that that's just safety net. That's just

1002
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: safety blanket. And then Mark Keith makes big plays later

1003
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: you know, down the field, not as many as the

1004
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: Ravens will want. But if you can keep Lamar, have

1005
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: for events, rush up field, keep him in the phone booths,

1006
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: as we like to say, because soon as you let

1007
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: Superman out the phone book, he becomes Superman. But if

1008
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: you can keep him in the phone book, he's just

1009
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: Clark Kent. That doesn't mean he's still not an MVP

1010
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: and a special player, but it makes it extremely difficult.

1011
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: And now he's thrown from different angles, not able to

1012
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: set his feet. Hence is why you know, a lot

1013
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: of teams have been able to get their hands on

1014
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: a lot of footballs. And as I just alluded to,

1015
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, five interceptions in six you know six games.

1016
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: You know, two Verse Kansas City the second week of

1017
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: the season and then two last week versus the Charges,

1018
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: because they did a pretty good job of keeping them

1019
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: in the box and then almost taking away to tie

1020
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: it in until later on in the game. Final question,

1021
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: and appreciate your time as always your the best special teams.

1022
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: Let's hit that all important third phase. Chris Horton does

1023
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: a great job. Darren Simmons does a great job of

1024
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals. The Ravens special teams. Number one in the

1025
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: NFL returning punts, number two in the NFL covering kickoffs,

1026
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: number three in the NFL returning kickoffs. They have the

1027
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: best kicker in the history of the National Football League,

1028
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: and Justin Tucker got one of the greatest punners of

1029
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: all time in Sam Cook. Special teams. If they've been

1030
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: dominant this year in terms of establishing field positions, Yeah,

1031
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: And that was going to be my third point. You

1032
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: were reading my mind, Dave. You know when you're talking

1033
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: about what could be the difference in this game. Well,

1034
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: one we talked to me personally, I think it's turnovers,

1035
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, and then the other part is going to

1036
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: be the kicking game. You know, you have to be

1037
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: physical offensively, you have to be physical defensively. You have

1038
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: to win third down on both sides of the ball,

1039
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: but it comes down to special teams. Devin DuVernay, the

1040
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: wide receiver, has done that fabulous job, like you said,

1041
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: in sixteen and sixteen point six, almost seventeen yards per

1042
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: punt return. This year he has a long of forty two.

1043
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: You look at what he's been able to do on kickoffs.

1044
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: We know they're not the same because of you know,

1045
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: the new rule, they moved the ball up, but he's

1046
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: still averaging twenty six every time he takes it out

1047
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: and most of those have been where he's catching it

1048
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: on the three to five yard line where the kicker

1049
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: miss hit it. So he's still being able to get

1050
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: that to the thirty plus yard line. And of course,

1051
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: justin Tucker, what more can you say? Three for three

1052
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: on fifty plus. You know the kid has ice and

1053
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: water in his vein. He's been like that since he

1054
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: got here, an undrafted guy. So that's the funny thing

1055
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: where you're looking like, how did thirty one other teams

1056
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: miss on on this young man? But you got to

1057
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: give credit to you know, a former you know, Bearcat

1058
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: coach and obviously our former secondary coach, Jerry Rosster, who

1059
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: has since retired. And then John Harball, you know, his

1060
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: background in the league for a long time was being

1061
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: a special teams coach with the Philadelphia Eagles, So it

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Speaker 1: takes great pride for him. You know, obviously he's still

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Speaker 1: helping out and doing a lot of things, but you know,

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Speaker 1: that still is his baby, as far as making sure

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Speaker 1: that Sam Cook, who's averaging forty seven, and Justin Tucker,

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Speaker 1: those guys as we called them out here, the Wolfpack.

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Speaker 1: You know, those guys do a fabulous job of snapping, holding, kicking,

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Speaker 1: and making sure that they take care of situational football

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Speaker 1: by not out kicking the coverage on the punt, by

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Speaker 1: making sure that they're getting aside to twenty. And then

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker just does Justin Tucker things, you know, thirteen

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Speaker 1: or fourteen, you know. And then of course, as you said,

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Speaker 1: NFL record probably the greatest kicker in the history of

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. So the units are all working

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Speaker 1: in unison. There's a lot of young guys, you know,

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00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: on this team that are willing to play special teams

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Speaker 1: because that's their opportunity to get on the field. And

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like if you do good on special teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, then you're going to get opportunities on defense,

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Speaker 1: which was similar to what we had, you know, doing

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Speaker 1: our great runs of great defense and great special teams

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Speaker 1: you know in ninety nine, two thousand and two thousand

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Speaker 1: and one. There there was a lot of similarities of

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Speaker 1: young players that you know, if you did good on

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00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: special team, you were going to get an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: address it. And obviously being certain packages defensively, you know,

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Speaker 1: especially on Sunday, So some of the guys are taking

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Speaker 1: great Friday. That thanks to Brad Jackson. And here's a

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Speaker 1: quick reminder to join Lap and Wayne box Miller for

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