1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Ron an Anians, I said, here getting this and she 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: kind of climbed up into that and she looked around 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: and she said, well this is she could almost see 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: over the steering wheel. Um, it was you know, gee, 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: this is kind of two pigs for me. I said, well, 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: you know it's so you sure your Hugard wants one 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: of the said oh yeah, my husband, Ken the car Doctor. 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: You've got to be sure. Just because things bolt in 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: doesn't make them right. So is it the right cluster 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: for the cars? Where you're gonna start? Welcome to the 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: radio home of ron and Anian the Car Doctor. Since 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five and now running. 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Remember um, we talked a couple of weeks ago about 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the Chevy Silverado that you would be drawing along and 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: hit the cruise control and all of a sudden the 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: vehicle would shut off and the dashboard would blank and 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: had all these kind of crazy problems. And I took 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: it to the gym that morning, I took it to 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: cross Fit and it went into remote start and the 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: parking lights wouldn't go out. Remember that, well, that car 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: is fixed. And way do you hear how it came 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: to be? Of course, like any good diagnosis, I started 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: at the beginning. I plugged in my Opus IVS scan tool, 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: because that is the tool in the market right now 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: that's been just doing some amazing things. The amount of 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: information you can pull out of a vehicle with that 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: tool is just second to none. And with the aid 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: of tech support, my buddy Harris over there in the 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: GM section, we kicked it around and we talked about 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: some of the things that this vehicle was doing, and 35 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: we stumbled upon the fact that this vehicle didn't have 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: factory remote starting it, which made sense because I've got 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: a I've got a twenty nineteen Civil Ado, it's got 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: factory remote start, it's got a three button remote, and 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: yet you look at this vehicle and it only had 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: a two button remote. And I couldn't understand, and Harris 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: pointed out, he said, Ron, it's got an aftermarket remote kitten, 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, Harris, I never thought of that. 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. So we decided to go and do 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: some investigating, and with the customer's approval for time, I 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: went and started to look under the dash and around 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: at the wiring. Now, remember the symptoms with this vehicle 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: were that it would do a radic crazy thing as 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: cruise control. If he made a left or right turn, 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: the cruise control would kick out. If the cruise control 50 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: was on, it would turn off and the pedometer would 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: blink and you'd be driving along in the A C 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: display with just all of a sudden stop working, or 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: it would blink and momentarily pause or lock up. It 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: was something was incorrect in this vehicle's computer network. You 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: could see it. It was as simple as you know 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: the days of when your house had a phone off 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: the hook and it would just bring down the whole network. 58 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: So I went looking for what I hoped would be 59 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: a remote start kit somewhere on the vehicle. Sure enough, 60 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: I found this really cheesy after market install remote start kit. 61 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: You know, I guess when you when you splice wires together, 62 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: you're supposed to actually um uh solder and heat shrink 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: or solder and take things up. Well, they tapped it 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: into two places they tapped into the data communication bus 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: or the CAN line at the A L DAL connector, 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: which when you trace that light green wire out coming 67 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: off a pin one, it went to every module in 68 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: the vehicle, all right, And I guess that was its 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: power source or that was its data interpretation point. I'm 70 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: not sure what. And they also tapped into the parking 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: lights at the parking lights switch took that out. Vehicle 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: has been out on the road for a week and 73 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: a half. The vehicle has been running fine, and I 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: just wanted to point out that, you know, sometimes the 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: diagnosis is talking to the customer. You know, I had 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: asked them, Oh, yeah, we did install and aftermarket remote 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: start about three years ago when we got it, and 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: then the problem started happening ever since. But they did 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: that right when they bought it. Used they just assumed 80 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: that the vehicle was bad from the factory. Talking to 81 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: the customer has to be part of the research and 82 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: and good explanations always helped bring a bad problem vehicle 83 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: to a quicker diagnosis. Of course, having guys like Opus 84 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: I VS. On your side in your pocket, um talking 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: to them and having a second set of ears. And 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: we do have a lot of laughs. Harrison, and when 87 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: we talk we talked about cars in general. So shout 88 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: out to Harrison and thank you. I appreciate all that 89 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: you and the guys over there at Opus I v S. 90 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Are doing for us here in the field. You're making 91 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: our lives a heck of a lot easier. Let's kick 92 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: the garage doors open. Let's get over to Leon and 93 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Illinois and talk to him about a seventy seven Chevy 94 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: and Tom Tom wrote and Paler, I think, uh, Tom's 95 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: being a wise guy here, Leon. So that's not me. 96 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: I have been like Chevy and Palace, what's cooking? How 97 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: you doing good? I would well, I show on on 98 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: the radio, and um, I didn't realize it was Sunday, 99 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: which it was like a recording from the Saturday show. Right, 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: you're on the live You're on the live broadcast, right, correct? Right? So, 101 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: and I heard that you were saying out you know, hey, 102 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: uh you know words, those four five thousand, all these 103 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: Chevy and pillows box style that they're not out there anymore. 104 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: And I thought, hey, I have that car. Let me 105 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: pull over it and try to call in you see 106 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: look how look how simple and nice those cars are, right, 107 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: just basic transportation. Man, they're great. Yeah, yeah, it's it's 108 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: a plane, Jane. You know everything, it's just there that 109 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: you can get you. But just so I'm not a 110 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: mechanical anything like that. So you know, I just took 111 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: this car for sale for a while back here and um, 112 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, it just turned like thirty one thousand and 113 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: some miles on it. I'm the third owner of this car. 114 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: It was two of my neighbors too little older ladies 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: that passed away, and um one the brand new put 116 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: fift king thousand. The second person she bought it from 117 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: her best friend who passed and she put another thirteen 118 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: and a half on it. So when I got it, it 119 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: it was five on it when I got it, so 120 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: I didn't add it. I think five years now and 121 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: I drive it maybe once a month just to keep 122 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: it good at out the garage and though so it's 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: not thirty one? Leon Leon Leon? Are you are you 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: trying to sell me the car? Do you have a 125 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 1: car question? Yeah, I'm trying to I was just putting 126 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: it out there and somebody were looking for his car. 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: But I have a card question on it. The horn 128 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: every nine then is the one in the in the 129 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: dome light. Is there a connection with the hoe and 130 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: the dome light on this car? Yeah? You know, it worked, 131 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: the one to work, and then sometimes the the dome 132 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: like it goes out. Then the horn won't work. Okay, 133 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: So when the horn and the dome light don't work, 134 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: what do you do to fix it? I've never It's 135 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: just like one day it worked and then another day 136 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: it won't. Okay. How mechanically inclined to you? Leon? Oh, 137 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't know anything about you know, 138 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: just change a smart clues or something like that. That's 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: about I mean, my my first my first thought is 140 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: are they both on the same fuse? Which is easy 141 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: enough to check. We can look at a wiring diagram. 142 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: But what I'd be curious is the next time it happens, 143 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: not that I see a connection between the two until 144 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: I look at a wiring diagram. But two things. Number one, 145 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: if you is it that the dome light doesn't work 146 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: from any door or just the driver's door? Um, you 147 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: know that's something you know, have you tried opening up 148 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: any one of the other doors? So, so do this 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: understand understand how the circuit works when the car is working, right, 150 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: go open up the passenger doors, make sure when the 151 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: passenger doors open, the dome light comes on. So the 152 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: next time the dome light doesn't work, open up the 153 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: passenger door. Is the dome light come on? Yes? No, 154 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: If the dome light comes on there, then you've got 155 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: a bad switch and the driver's door, And it's got 156 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the horn going out that I 157 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: can see from my seat here. If the dome light 158 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: is supposed to work from all the doors, which I 159 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: believe it should, and it doesn't work when you open 160 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: the doors after this, it doesn't. Now you've got a 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: power supply problem. Let's go find out where the power 162 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: supply for the dome light comes from. And let's go 163 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: look at the horde circuit and see where they both operate. 164 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: And if they both operate off the same fuse. Maybe 165 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: it's something as simple as an older vehicle with a 166 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: fuse that's got a certain amount of corrosion on it 167 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: because it's been sitting in a damp environment, possibly and 168 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: you've got some you've got some Schmutz non technical term 169 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: on the end of the fuse blade and it just 170 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: needs to be cleaned. Do the simple stuff first, all right, 171 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: what colors the car. It's got all the chrome on it, 172 00:08:52,720 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: stealing mirror. Tom says he'll give you fifty bucks for it. No, 173 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: I got well, but but you haven't sold it yet, right, 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: all right, let me know when you get down the 175 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: fifty bucks, I'll take it, all right. I gotta get Tom. 176 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: I gotta get Tom a Christmas present. Stay in touch, Leon, 177 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: I gotta guy be well, goodbye, goodbye five Tom. I 178 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: don't think we've ever had anybody trying to sell me 179 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: a car yet. You know, there's always the first time. 180 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: So many crazy things happened to me. You know. I 181 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: was in my favorite pizza Rea list night Uncle Louise 182 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: over here in Franklin Lakes, New Jersey, and I was 183 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: talking to Dave, the owner, and Dave said, again, Dave 184 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: is just so blown away. He goes, every weekend, my 185 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: phone goes off. He goes, after you do your radio show, 186 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: I get a new podcast of the radio show. He goes, 187 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: how does that happen? I have to explain it to him, 188 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: how we do the show. And then you know it's 189 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: a regular radio show, and then it becomes a podcast, 190 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: and then you know it's it's it's just really funny. 191 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: He goes, but you're here, You're in my pizzeria. It's like, 192 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, am I supposed to be driving around 193 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: in a white limousine somewhere, like you know, Harry Collins, 194 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, it's just magic. I just poof, I 195 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: appear out of nowhere. Um, one of these days, I'm 196 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: telling you, we're gonna go over there and do a remote. 197 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: You gotta get a slice of Uncle Louise. He makes 198 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: a pizza called Uncle Louise Special. It's this nice, big, 199 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: fluffy crunchy. Oh god, it's the best. It's uh, it's 200 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: it's just it's just sauce and a little bit of 201 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: hot peppers and and just but it's a real crunchy. 202 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: It's not a thin crust. It's not a Sicilian, it's 203 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: not a Granny Tom. I'm gonna go out for pizza. 204 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: You want to, you want to heck with the rest 205 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: of the hour, let's uh, let's let's go get a pizza. Yeah, 206 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: tell the station is to place something. We're going out 207 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: to get lunch. We're gonna have to get lunch. I 208 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: don't think that will work. So but for Dave and 209 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: all the gang over there and Uncle Louise and Franklin 210 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: lakes a big car doctor. How did you do? We? Uh? 211 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: We enjoy going there. It's great food. Five five zero 212 00:10:51,600 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. We're coming back right after this, whether 213 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: it's a little red Corvette or you go. You've come 214 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: to the right place to get that car fixed. Ron 215 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: and Ady in the car doctor eight five five five 216 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: six zero zero zero. Now back to ron Hey, they're 217 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: gonna call you doctor, Well they could, but real quit 218 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: very very important. Keith is writing up on our Facebook 219 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: page under the video where we're streaming the show because 220 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: we're trying to make it available for everybody, and um, 221 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: Keith wants to know, is it Schmutz or Schmutz? And 222 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: I wrote Schmutz, But you gotta say it with a 223 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: Jersey accent to say it correctly because it's a Jersey thing. 224 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that exists outside of I don't know 225 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: who does it. It's you know, it's it's Schmutz. So 226 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: it's just you know. Anyway, let's go over to Alan, Maryland. 227 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fix lamowers today. Look what Tom's got me doing. 228 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: What's going on here? Yeah, ron Hey, longtime listener, and 229 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: thanks for the Automotive education every week. You're very welcome. Yeah, 230 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: I gotta throw a curve at you. Got one more here. 231 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: It's John Dear, probably about ten years old. I maintained 232 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: it myself, which mostly consists of cleaning the ready for 233 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: it every year and sharpening the blade and all. That's fine. 234 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: The problem is getting it started. Um. You go to 235 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: start it and you pull and pull and pull and 236 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: it all starts. So you let it sit for at 237 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: least five minutes, maybe five to ten minutes, and then 238 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: it starts on the first pull. You think it'd be 239 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: the choke. I've had cars that have done things like this, 240 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: and it usually it's the choke or to choke pull off. 241 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: But the choke looks fine, the choke plate is closed. 242 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: When you go to start it, it runs off a 243 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: plastic lever arm. It's free moves about okay. Um, so 244 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what the heck the problem is, but 245 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: it just will not start on the first shot. You 246 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: gotta let it sit for five to ten minutes and 247 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: then it starts on the first pull. Any ideas, Yeah, 248 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: you see, you've got the wrong lawnmower. If it was 249 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: like if it was light way, but if It was 250 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: like my throwaway Toro which I bought two years ago 251 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: for three hundred bucks. It says right on it guaranteed 252 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: to start every time, and they give you an eight 253 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: hudred phone number. Of course I haven't called it yet 254 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: because it started every time for me. However, in your case, alright, 255 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: all seriousness, you know a lot of times it's you know, 256 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: is it is it ignition or is it fuel? Most 257 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: of the time it's a fuel issue. But let's diagnose it. 258 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: Do you have a spark tester? Okay, so undo the 259 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: spark plug wire and put it across you know, the ground, 260 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: and you know how many vaults will fire across that gap. 261 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: If you said at the twenty thousands, thirty thousands will 262 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: put out of thirty thousands, you know, volt kick to 263 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: it cold. Maybe we've got maybe we've got an ignition problem. 264 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: Let's load the ignition system. If we can shoot. If 265 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: we can shoot thirty thousands of thirty thousand vaults across 266 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: that gap and it still doesn't start, that we're gonna 267 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: talk about fuel. So set the choke where you think 268 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: it should be one or two poles, pull the plug out. 269 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: Is the plug is the plug wet. Yeah, you know, 270 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: I've done that, and I believe I've done that a 271 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: couple of times. I think it was with Okay, so 272 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: it's flooded, so you know if it's if it's And 273 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: this is why doing the ignition test is so important. 274 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: If you've got if you've got thirty thousand volts going 275 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: across that or whatever the number is, and I'm sure 276 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: you've put more than a few plugs in this. You 277 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: can't have seven bad news you can't have seven bad 278 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: news spark plugs? How did I know that? And at 279 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: that point, well, it's left is fuel. Now you could 280 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: take that carburetor apart fourteen times and you'll never see 281 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: anything that The jets, the jets in the passageways in 282 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: the little lawnmower. Carburetors are so amazingly small that you 283 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: know the way you're gonna troubleshoot it is. You're gonna 284 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: go buy a new carburetor and it's gonna be fourteen 285 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: dollars and twenty three cents, and you're gonna say, you're 286 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: gonna say, why didn't I do this sooner? All right? Uh, 287 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of great places online that have parts 288 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: for these things, and you might have to source it 289 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: from you're not local guy. Try your local lawnmower repair 290 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: guy first. But you they find out, Yeah, you'll find 291 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: them on e Bay. You'll find them. I'll tell you 292 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: what you may find new ones. There's a place in 293 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: Ohio um RCP W rpc W Sahair's Lawnmower s O 294 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: H A R s UM. I use it taking all 295 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: my little snowblower parts and lawnmower parts and they've been great. 296 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: They have stuff for older machines. The problem with a 297 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: lot of the of the lawnmowers today is they're all 298 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: pulling from one source and the carburetors all come from 299 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: our our, our, you know, the next state, China, and 300 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: they're being imported into this part of the country. And 301 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: um the lawnmower carburetors are just so cheap. It's just 302 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: it just there's no point in taking it apart. It's 303 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: it's it's becoming a throwaway. If there's a clon though 304 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: from the fine situation, which certainly makes sense, what is 305 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: it about letting the simplified to ten minutes that all 306 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden it starts on the first pull. Well, 307 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: that's what makes me think it's not ignition because you know, 308 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: ignition didn't change, right, Okay, so but yeah, but see, 309 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: don't fall in to the trap. How long will it 310 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: take you to put the spark tester on there? Yeah? Yeah, 311 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: just just test it. Just you you you you, you 312 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: know what's good, all right, Whether we're fixing a car, 313 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: a lawnmower, or the squeaky garage door, We're all going 314 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: to follow the same procedure. Tell me what's good, you'll 315 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: figure out what's bad. Right, Ron is Ron is um 316 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: w w r D. What would Ron do? He hit 317 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: it with a hammer and go get a slice of pizza. So, 318 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, going back to why do I think it's 319 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: a carburetor? You know, when they're cold, they they react differently. 320 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: They globed the fuel, they won't atomize correctly. Exactly why, 321 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know as part of the diagnosis, 322 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: I can't take that carburetor apart and look for clogs 323 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: or restrictions, and I will usually find that the small engines, 324 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: the carburetors are under twenty five bucks. It just it 325 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: just becomes part of the diagnosis and you've eliminated it. 326 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Maybe just just a good idea. Just read well, if 327 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: if if there ten years, what kind of fuel have 328 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: you been putting in it? Have you been putting ethanol 329 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: fuel on it? Regu right, So that's got that's got 330 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: ethanol in it, and that's deteriorated. If you were using 331 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: the expensive fuel out of the metal cans that you 332 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: buy at the lawnmower place or the hardware store that's 333 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: ethanol free, that's a different conversation, but you know, it's 334 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: it's it's also coming down to that it doesn't even 335 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: pay to do that anymore because the carburetors are so cheap. Listen, 336 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: my my snowblower on a side, right, and how we 337 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: got onto this venue is vain. But the snowblower I 338 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: use at the shop is nine eighties seven. Yeah, it's 339 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: a it's an MPTD from eight seven, So it's it's 340 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: not exactly it's not as old as tom, but it's old. 341 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: And if that's believable, And you know what, I've only 342 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: done one carburetor on it in the past, what is 343 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: that thirty five years? And that's because I've always used 344 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: ethanol free fuel. So ethanol does have an effect, that's 345 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: specially on the smaller engines. Al always a pleasure. Go 346 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: fix your lawnmower. Do what I said, and if it 347 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: doesn't work, call me back. We'll talk some more. Always fun, 348 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the car doctor. We're gonna go 349 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: to Thomas and Maryland next, right. If we come back 350 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: from this, don't go away, welcome back. Why name the 351 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: card doctor. Let's get on over and talk to Thomas 352 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: and Maryland and Thomas twelve Dodge Avenger And it's making 353 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: a clicking noise. You didn't call the shop this week? 354 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: Did you only kidding? Um? Thomas? You there? Yeah, you 355 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: know somebody actually called the shop this week. Hey, do 356 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: you have fIF teen minutes sometime to say afternoon at 357 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: three thirties? I can stop by my steering wheel makes 358 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: a clicking noise when I turned three inches to the 359 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: left of the right. Uh no, And he was and 360 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: he couldn't understand why I didn't have fifteen minutes, just 361 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: just like stop everything in the middle of the day. 362 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: So how can I help you, sir? What's going on here? Yeah? 363 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: When I used a key fib but I'll hit the 364 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: unlocked button and unlocks and then I hear a clicking 365 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: noise and then after I open up the door down, 366 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: I hear the same clicking noise. It stops after like 367 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: five or six clicks. What if you manually unlocked the door, 368 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: or what if you leave the door unlocked. If you 369 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: leave the door unlocked and just and just open the door, 370 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: do you hear it? Yeah, same thing, So you still 371 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: hear a click? Yepre click. Okay. So with the with 372 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: the door unlocked, you hear a click when you open 373 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: the door, all right? If you if you close the 374 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: door but not close it onto the striker, so it's 375 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: within like that last eighth of an inch before you 376 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: would latch it. If you open it, do you still 377 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: hear the noise? Uh? No, okay. So, so it's not 378 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: in the hinge and it's not in the it's not 379 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: in the pivot assembly. Right, Well, yeah, you're just but 380 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: well think of think of what I'm asking, all right. So, 381 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: so it's it's the latch, the the the mechanism that 382 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: grabs that pin sticking out of the body. It's in 383 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: that Okay, it's not in the words when the door 384 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: is not on that latch. When it's not on the latch, 385 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: it's just it's close to latching but it's not quite there. 386 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: If you just open the door, does it make any 387 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: funny noises? Okay, then you've probably got an issue with 388 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: the latch assembly or the mechanism that controls the lock 389 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: rod at the latch assembly, and someone's gonna have to 390 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: get the door panel off to watch it and see 391 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: what's going on. If you the doors, all the doors 392 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: make the same noise. How long has it been doing 393 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: doesn't make the noise in the door? Makes noise in 394 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: the dashboard, that's where the noise comes from. Okay, so 395 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: why can't that be the relay control? I could be Okay, 396 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: how how long has it been doing it? Um? I 397 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: just brought the car from somewhere, all right, So your 398 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: concern is is it an abnormal noise? Right? All right? 399 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: I suspect not sorry to take you down the path 400 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: of the doors, but I thought we were talking about 401 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: the door specifically, because I have seen the latches fall apart, 402 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: all right. So it it sounds like what you're describing 403 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: to me is and you must have really good ears 404 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: or this is just a really loud relay um as 405 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: a as a concern because most people wouldn't notice that 406 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like even if you're even if you're sitting 407 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: in the car and you hit the power door locks, 408 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: do you hear this? This this clicking no But if 409 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: you're sitting in the car and you open the door, 410 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: it'll do it. Okay. So is it the act of 411 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: opening the door or the act of unlocking the door? 412 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Act of opening the doors? Okay? So it's not until 413 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: you open the doors? All right? Where's your door jam switch? 414 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: Is it exposed? Do you see it the jam switch 415 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: or is it built into the latch? Is built into 416 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: the latch? Okay, So it has to be the act 417 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: of triggering the dome light that as a result of 418 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: coming from the switch. The only way, the only way 419 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: you could prove that this is just and it sounds 420 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: normal from my seat here, okay. But the only way 421 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: you could prove it is if someone were to hook 422 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: up a scan tool with bidirectional control, where we can 423 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: use the scan tool to turn the lights on and 424 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: off and with and with the door closed, Tell it 425 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: to turn on the dome light and it will. It 426 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: will replicate the same command out of the scan tool 427 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: that the switch and the latch gives. And if you 428 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: hear that clicking noise, what you're hearing is a normal occurrence, 429 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: trust me. Yeah, if you can talk to your mechanic 430 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: and get them to do that. Uh. And I think 431 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna find that this is just a 432 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: normal occurrence. And I bet you there's somewhere if we 433 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: look through bulletins, we'll find out that the relays built 434 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: on the third of June, at the end of the 435 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: year of production that this vehicle was built. You know, 436 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 1: something was too loud and they should be insulated and 437 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: quieted down and so on and so forth. So but 438 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: if you just bought this, when you have it into 439 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: your mechanic for that, just as a suggestion, have him 440 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: looked the car over. You don't know the car even 441 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: if you brought it from somebody you know and they 442 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: said they took care of it. Just just if you 443 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: have a guy you trust, just get him to look 444 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: it over once. Give it the once over. Now this 445 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: way you take good ownership, all right, kiddo, I'll do that, 446 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: all right, thankfu. That You're very welcome, Thomas. Have a 447 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: good rest of the day. Um. Yeah, Sometimes it's it's 448 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: the little things, right. It's so I thought it was 449 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: something different when we open and closed the door. Let's 450 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: go to Jeffrey, Virginia eleven Geep Jeffrey and at your service, sir, 451 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: how can I help? Uh? First of all, I appreciate 452 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: you taking my call and from from Michigan now in Virginia. 453 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: But I've got a two thousand and eleven Jeep sport Wrangler. Uh, 454 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: it's got a hundred thirteen thousand miles on it. Just 455 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: put a new ECU in it because it had problems 456 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: and they couldn't figure it out, and it ended up 457 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: being the computer UM. About two thousand miles after I 458 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: replaced the e c U, I started getting another engine 459 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: light and when I read it out with my O 460 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: B D two port reader, it said it was a 461 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: P zero seven four zero, which says that the transmission 462 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: control clutches out of range. I was also tossing another code. 463 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: I apologize. I don't recall it, and it's not stored 464 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: on my my gadget. Uh. It's said some thing with 465 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: like the transmission fluid was over temp. I've checked the fluid. 466 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: It's good, height, it's good, color, doesn't smell bad. So 467 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if the two connected up. It's an 468 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: intermittent problem. I've had a couple of rough shifts, but 469 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: very rare. My gas mileage may have gone down a 470 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: little bit. Um and sometimes the engine light will go 471 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: out and it seems that I guess maybe it kind 472 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: of goes. Haven't seen that problem for a while, so 473 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: it resets itself. I've done a little research. It sounds 474 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: like either there's a little sol annoid I need to 475 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: check or it's a big job. Well. I was looking 476 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: for any ideas you have and this is a seventeen 477 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: jeep wrangler. I'm sorry this is this is an eleven 478 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: jeep wrangler. Do you have a date penda star? Yes? 479 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Do you have the ability to possibly scan this with 480 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: something other than just O B D two? Um? I don't. 481 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean I can probably find somebody's got one as 482 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: scanned it with a good old um it's as Zurik 483 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 1: as he r eleven. It's not the greatest, but at 484 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: least gave me the codes right right right, just you know, 485 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: just uh possibility that um you know, does it? Are 486 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: there any communication faults and things like that? So I'll 487 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: tell you what. Um, Jeff, sit tight a minute. Let 488 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: me pull over and take a pause because Tom's yelling 489 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: at me, and then we come back we'll talk about it. 490 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: But think about where you're gonna find another scan tool, 491 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna want you to run some specific tests. 492 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: Have a pencil and paper handy when we come back, 493 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about clutch volume index and that I'll 494 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: tell you what's wrong with this vehicle. Stay put, I'm 495 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: run in any of the car doctor. We're back right 496 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: after this. Does that compoke up? And me by the 497 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: hand man, and that's all right with me. Welcome back. 498 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: We're on any of the car doctor. Let's get over 499 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: to Jeff. Is still there, Virginia, Jeff, you're still there, sir, Yes, 500 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: I am okay. So let's talk about balloons, all right. 501 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: You ever blow up balloon? Absolutely okay, and you blow 502 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: it up and you make it. I don't know. When 503 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: you were a kid, you could probably blow a balloon 504 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: up real big, right, like five six inches in diameter. 505 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: And you get it's harder to blow up when it 506 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: starts off, and it gets the easier, it gets bigger, right, 507 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: and then as you as you get older, it's even 508 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: harder to blow it up past three inches, right, because 509 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: you kind of don't have the lung power you used 510 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: to have. You know, I think I'm full of a 511 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: lot of hot air, but yes, yes, you get the point. 512 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: So think think about the diameter of that balloon, all right. Now, 513 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: think about the the volume of air or fluid. Maybe 514 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: there's trans fluid in that balloon. All right, there's a 515 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: certain volume, there's an index, there's a volume index of 516 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: fluid in that balloon. And maybe low reverse has to 517 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: have this much volume, and and second and fourth has 518 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: to have this much volume, and so on. They call 519 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: that clutch volume index c v I. All right, And 520 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: with a little bit better scan tool, something that will 521 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: read c v I, you can actually go in and 522 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: look at what the normal ranges are or what the 523 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: ranges for that particular transmission. So, for example, you could 524 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: go in with a better scan tool. I think I 525 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: don't think yours will do it. If it's only O 526 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: B D two and normal c v I range for 527 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: that trans the load of reverse circuit is gonna be 528 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: somewhere between thirty five and eighty three, all right, it's 529 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: widgets to you. It's just thirty five to eighty three. 530 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: Second to fourth is gonna be twenty to seventy five 531 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: to seventy seven. Okay, overdrive circuit will be forty eight 532 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: to you know, fifty to one, fifties a good number. 533 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: And the rest is gonna be there's gonna be a 534 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: U D circuit. It's gonna be twenty four to seventy two, 535 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: seventy all right. But the idea is you're likely going 536 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: to see one of those hydraulic circuits off the chart. 537 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: The fact that it's starting to shift hard. We've either 538 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: got the possibility of incorrect fluid in the trans which 539 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: is possible. All right. Did you I'm sorry, did you 540 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: say you just got this You've had it for a while. No, 541 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: I've owned it since it was a brand. I bought 542 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: it brand new. I've changed out the transmission fluid. Uh. 543 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: Once with the filter. Everything was good. And like I said, 544 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: I just checked the fluid. No signs it's overheating. It's normal. Color, 545 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have that funky smell to And you used a 546 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: t F plus four or the equivalent from Chrysler or 547 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: not from Chrysler, whatever it was, that matched up with 548 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: what it needed, right, So it's got to be it's 549 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: got to be plus floor. It's a special additive package, 550 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: all right. So if we take fluid out of the equation. 551 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: The next place we're going is clutch volume index. You've 552 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: got to go look at those. If you find those 553 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: are out of range, chances are you're seeing the beginning 554 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: of the end of the transmission. And now I've seen 555 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: something that the are some sort of a solenoid that 556 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: sits on the outside of the car that has some 557 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: sort of electrical connection. I don't know if it's to active. 558 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: I presume it to activate the solenoid. It's my understanding. 559 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: Occasionally that solenoid doesn't work properly. Um, I've seen cases 560 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: where that solenoid sticks. But before we start looking for 561 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: what's bad, tell me what's good. Tell me what c 562 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: v I is right, Because because think of it like 563 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: this and verify my numbers, you'll find the ranges for 564 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: c v I in any service information manual, alright, any 565 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: service information source. But my point becomes if if, for 566 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: some for example, you look at clutch volume index and 567 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: low reverse is sitting at a hundred and twenty two 568 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: and the speck is thirty five to eighty, guess what. 569 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: You can change solenoids all day long. The transit bid. 570 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: Why are we why are we spending any more time 571 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: on this. You get my point. So looking for what's good, 572 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: we'll tell us what's bad. At just my way of thinking. Um, 573 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: I do enjoy your way of thinking. You go for 574 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: the problem rather than just replace every part until it 575 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: gets better. Right, let's test it now. If you look 576 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: at c v I, you can breathe a sigh of 577 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: relief and go, it's likely not the trans If they're 578 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: all good, all right, And then we can talk about 579 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: solenoids and intermittent problems and so on and so forth, 580 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 1: and maybe hook up, maybe hook up a test light 581 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: or a bulb or something to that solenoid and see 582 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: if the bulb is lit, is the solenoid activated, that 583 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: kind of thing. You know, we're losing power ground, what 584 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: are we losing? But before we go there, let's, you know, 585 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: let's look at c v I. Let's do the easy 586 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: thing first. Runs getting lazy, he gets older. He likes 587 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: to do the easy thing first. So one quick question, 588 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of U scan tool would because Chrysler is weird, 589 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: they don't always work with all scan tools. Are there 590 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: any scan tools that you can recommend that? Because I 591 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: don't mind spending some money because I've had this baby 592 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: for ten years and I'm then to keep it till 593 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: I die. I think I think, okay, alright, so I 594 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: think for the for the guy doing it like you're 595 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: doing it on the weekend, and obviously this isn't your 596 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 1: everyday job. I think I would look at something from 597 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: the Autel family, anything from Autel to fit your budget. 598 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: Just make sure it's got your make model information. And 599 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, the more you spend. Hey, listen, I think 600 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: you gotta spend grand on a scan tool today, and 601 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a lot of money because look 602 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: at what it does, and you know that that really 603 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of gives you everything you need to work on 604 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: that vehicle. And you look at the fact, if you're 605 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: doing it over a course of time, how much more 606 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: you'll say by having a better tool. Take a look 607 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: at the Autel stuff. Just google search Autel. I believe 608 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell USA and that'll take you to the website. 609 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: So good luck to you, Jeff. Let us know what happens. 610 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: We're here for you. Zero the car doctors back right 611 00:32:50,160 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: after this welcome back, weren't any of the car docul 612 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: let's get over? Is that Carol or Caroline in Virginia 613 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: and I've got a miss type here in the in 614 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: the screen, Idea's Caroline, Caroline, how can I help you today? 615 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. I had two hundred nine 616 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: days Aero Limited and it has twos on it. And 617 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: last week I had the CV Axelos Town in the 618 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: front boat sides and I was driving in the electronic 619 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: stability control off flight came on, and then an hour 620 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: lay that, the check engine light came on. So I 621 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: went to Advanced Startle Parts and they did the diagnostic 622 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: test and the code that come up was P zero 623 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: one zero two, which they said was the mass c 624 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: flow sensor. So my son cleaned the mass flow sensor 625 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: with that CRC spray and noticed a clamp wasn't closed, 626 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: so we closed at and then we changed the engineer 627 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: filtists since we were in there right and the check 628 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: the engine light and the s C light is so on, 629 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: well you're gonna well so it sounds to me from 630 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: my seat here like when they did the axles, they 631 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: didn't tighten the clamp and that would cause the mass 632 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: airflow to set a false code mass airflow Center. It's 633 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: a you know, breathe in it's it measures air volume 634 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: coming into the engine. All right, So if if the 635 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: clamp was open and you're providing an alternate path for 636 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: air to come in, and it's going to skewer upset 637 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: that mass airflow censor reading, it's going to affect overall 638 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: engine operation. So the fact that it was unclamped behind 639 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: it tells me that that's probably the source of the issue. 640 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: But you know, cleaning it and tightening the clamp won't 641 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: turn the light out. You'll have to drive the car 642 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: anywhere from five the thirty turns of the key with 643 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: no problem before the light goes out, and then drive 644 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: it another fifteen to twenty, depending upon what level software 645 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: this vehicle has to clear the code. Stop back at 646 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: the repair shop that did the axles, tell them the story, 647 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: tell them they owe you a code clear, and let's 648 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: see where it goes from there. Call me back if 649 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: you need more. I'm not on any of the car. Doctor. 650 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.