WEBVTT - It’s Luke Just Luke… Mr. Luke Part 1 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.520 I Am all In, I wants you. I Am all 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:23.120 In with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio Podcast. Okay, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.319 hey everybody, it's Scott Patterson and this is the I 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.080 Am All In Podcast with I Heart Radio one eleven productions. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.600 We are gonna talk about and break down presenting Laura 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:39.920 Likeylmore today, which was an episode that created within us 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.720 so far just chit chatting in the morning or little 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.960 preambles created a tremendous amount of division and controversy already. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.400 And I'm not gonna say who's on either side, but uh, 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.280 let me just tell you now that the full ball 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.400 club is back. We're back together. Danielle's back. She was 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.880 missing last episode created a huge hole in our defense 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.520 and our offense. Um, now that she's back, we can 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.440 really get into the nuts and bolts of this. Uh 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:12.160 but um, you know, I I thought it was a 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.959 little lagging in the beginning. I had to adjust to 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.400 it a little bit and we'll get into this a 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.800 little more, and it gained momentum. It really started gaining momentum. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.960 It's putting Laurel in a position where she's being very 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.160 flirtatious with Christopher through the entire episode. And hoping against hope, 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:33.200 and it was just unfamiliar territory for me to see 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:38.280 her in that position when it wasn't me on the 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.040 on the receiving end. See, so the ego came into 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.320 play a little bit. I have to admit it was 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.800 a little uncomfortable to watch so perfectly executed. I think 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.800 Danielle has a different opinion of this. Oh, I cannot 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.320 wait to get into this with you, because we were 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.440 chatting before, like you said, and you and I have 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.880 opposing opinions about this episode. Yeah a little. I mean 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.960 we it's it's a little divergent, but uh, you know, 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.200 I think we can agree on one thing that we 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.160 both went and we weren't together when we were watching it. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.040 I don't want to start any rumors, but um, you 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.960 know we were both ooing and eyeing through the whole thing, right, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.040 I mean, it was, it was, It was. It was 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:26.160 a delightful episode for sure. It had that Gilmore Girls impact. Um, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:31.760 it had those big moments. Uh. It it really framed 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:37.360 for me anyway, the loss of something. You know, it 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.720 was looking back and also looking forward at the same time. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:43.400 It framed Rory's future and where she's going it also 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.640 framed lauralized past and what could have been um. So 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.639 there was that, you know, these these polar opposites pulling 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.800 on each other and making creating a lot of tension 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:58.560 in the episode, which was brilliantly um crystallized in that 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.600 final moment with Laurela I just sort of looking off 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.800 and the fans going off behind her and all that 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:09.000 stuff with the the girls, the young debutant's dancing in 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.680 the background with their fans. Um And we have a 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:17.440 very special guest today. I want to say that Brenda 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:23.760 Maban head wardrobe mistress, costume designer. Do they even say 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:28.200 wardrobe mistress anymore? My god? Uh? It was one of 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:35.360 my favorite people of this entire production. Brenda was a 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.920 bright light every single day. She was always happy and 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:43.920 sunny and professional and um full of great stories and 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:48.560 and uh just a consummate pro And she's she's been 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.200 around for a while and she got her start with 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:56.520 the bodyguard Kevin Costner Whitney Houston, and her careers morphed 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.560 into something very very special and I think you know sides, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.640 you know, besides everything else we've been talking about that 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:09.480 Brenda's influence on this show has been monumental and has 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.080 helped as much as anybody's contribution make this the show 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.360 that it is, because you know, wardrobe is very difficult, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.520 it's a very tricky thing to do. It requires a 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.920 true artist to really bring that vision together what the 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.200 creators are looking for, with a little input of our 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.480 own or a lot of input of our own. Um. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.760 And you really noticed this kind of a thing when 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.120 you're watching a movie or a TV show that's poorly 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.919 wardrobed and you're just it's jarring. It's like, wow, you 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.320 really notice the clothes right, You notice how wrong they are? 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.640 That never happens on Gil Mortals. So and that's a 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.840 testament to Brenda. And let's bring her in. Let's let's 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.680 let's say hello to Brenda Mayben. Hello, how are you 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:59.720 on the left bank? And gay Paris? Oh? We we yes? 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:04.039 I and actually yes, yes, you know. I always get 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:08.239 to confuse left bank, right bank. I know the lube 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.440 and something else is on the left bank, and then 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.880 to refell and the muse or say, isn't on the 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:20.880 right bank? I think, I don't are you there for work? 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.960 Are you? Are you living there now? Or what's going on? 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.760 I am how good luck. Um, I'm just here for vacation. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:32.960 This time, I was living here in this very apartment 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.280 for work, uh to three I think three years ago 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:46.359 I did a television series for Amazon called Patriot and 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:51.800 it was season two and uh we shot the entire 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:56.520 thing in Paris. It was fantastic. It was really it 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:02.880 wasn't true, okay, because hey, you know, living in Paris 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.120 it goes to why you got in the business in 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.400 the first place. You know, it all came down to 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.560 that job, right right? No, I mean I I My 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.640 reason for getting into the acting game was you know, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.640 many fold, but one of the things that I thought 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.679 was so attractive about it was the ability to travel 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.120 to Europe and go to film festivals. Oh yeah, I 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.720 just kept thinking of Venice and Cohn and that kind 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.000 of thing. I haven't gotten there yet, but it was 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.320 the reason, one of the reasons I wanted to do it. Yeah. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:41.200 I call it my my work vacation retirement plan kind 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:46.760 of basically because I I've had the good fortune to 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:53.400 go to Morocco and Prague and Paris and Montreal, you know, 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.919 out of the United States and Mexico, and every last 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:03.120 one of them has been amaze zing adventure and Amy 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.080 saying experience. The people that I work with are great. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.240 I speak French and I speak Spanish and I learned 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:14.600 Spanish on Gilmo girls. Um so I have to thank 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:21.840 you know, Amy for that. And actually I Amy was 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:27.000 doing Mrs Mazel. She came to Paris and shout an 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.720 episode of Mrs Mazel and we were here at the 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.480 same time, so I got to see her. So that 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.040 was that was kind of kind of good too. But yeah, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:43.240 I don't have any complaints, no complaints at all. Uh. Well, 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.320 you know, I would love to be able to live 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:51.280 here forever and have somebody else paid for it. That 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:59.400 would be really great. Um, life's been pretty good. You know. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.960 I got married. I did not know that. Congratulations to 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:09.600 the groom. I got married to an h Britt, to 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:14.320 an Englishman and I know I David sitting here and 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.960 he said he met me. I don't, yeah, I know. 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:25.600 But just to get everybody up today, you know, so, um, yeah, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:31.560 it's been good. That's fantastic. Congratulations. Um so let's get 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:36.920 into uh, let's get into the show. People the fans 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:41.440 want to know and we all know on the in 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.760 the cast and on the production, how important, what you 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.200 do is to the show, and we've commented on it 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:54.920 many times during uh this uh this podcast, UM, and 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.400 a lot of fans are fascinated by that. Tell us 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.920 how you got the job? Who you did you first 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.720 meet Amy and she offered you the job? Or how 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:07.040 did that go? No? I started off. I got the 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:12.400 job as a costume supervisor, and Um, the designer sent 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:18.800 me the pilot and the script and I read it, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.440 and my feeling after I saw the pilot and read 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.000 the script was I don't care what I have to 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.760 do to get this job. I'm getting this job because 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:36.600 it was It touched me and it was heartfelt, and 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.640 I love the relationship. I love the kind of eggs 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.200 between you and lore Lie. You know, do they like 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.560 each other? Well? Maybe, but I don't know. You know, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:52.400 there was that energy between you two and then your 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:57.000 loving energy with Roy and I just I liked the 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:03.280 whole package and I had to do it. So UM. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:08.480 I supervised it for oh what two years? Three years 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.720 I think, and then they there's a whole bunch of 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:16.079 things that happened that I talked about, but UM, needless 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.599 to say, I told them when they asked me what 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.520 I take over being, you know, and be the designer. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.440 I said no, not right now because of the way 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:30.520 things happened. And then finally Patricia said it's time, so 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.439 I took over. And just for the fans, Patricia Palmer 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:39.839 was one of the the top producers of the show. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.880 What was her official title? Um Um, she was line producer, 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.520 line producer. Yeah, I have to look at huge job. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:56.480 Huge job. Yeah. She kept everyone in line, did um. Well, 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.720 of course, you know, Amy had some input in that, 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:04.720 and I I got along well with Lauren and I 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.320 just wanted it was best for the characters basically, and 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:13.960 everyone I saw that that's what I wanted. So that's 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:20.120 why I continued to do the show. Um. I I 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:25.800 just wanted to make the characters come alive, you know 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:30.280 they were. I was so into each and every character, 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.040 you know. I remember that time when they were saying, Okay, 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:39.240 he's not gonna wear a baseball cap anymore, and I 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:45.600 was like, yes he is. But you know, we didn't 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.680 for a while, remember, and then no, they were trying 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.120 to take it off my head and they didn't want anymore. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.800 We were it was just gonna be a little slight change, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:01.280 and then it was it. It was you. It was 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.040 it was your character, you know, that was Luke. That 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:10.440 hat was just like your arm, you know, it was 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.920 part of your character. And then you had it that 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.520 Hume And what what season was that where they were 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:25.840 contemplating the being Yeah, it was maybe season four or five. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.520 I don't you know, all those seasons kind of my 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.480 mail together, but I'd have to look it up to 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:37.200 tell you the truth. But it was just I just 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:41.520 loved every single character. The crazier the character, the happier 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.640 it made me. All of the festivals just made me happy. 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.880 We had the Harvest Festival and the twelve I think 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:58.160 it was twelve tap dancing kids in um blazers and 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.880 with yellow stripes, and I was like, what where am 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.360 I going to find blazers with yellow stripes? And so 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.400 I went to the fabric store and found some yellow 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.840 stripes and had them sewn onto the blazers, you know, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:19.880 because it felt right. Yeah, the crazier the better. So 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:25.080 here's here's a question. So so you're reading every single script. 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.319 You have to digest these scripts, and in Lauren's case, 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.280 you have to say, Okay, in this episode, we're seeing 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.360 Lauren either get a little more closed off or opening 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.120 up a little more. She's a little happier, she's a 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.240 little sad, or you know something, So that affects your 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:49.560 decisions on wardrobe. Correct, Oh yeah, it does. Um. When 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:55.240 she was happy, it was just she was a little 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.640 more flowy. You know, she had on a skirt and 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.640 it wasn't tight, and or I should say it wasn't 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.000 form fitting. It was a little looser in the shape 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.760 of it. And or she had on her favorite Peara 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.120 jeans with her favorite rock and Roll T shirt and 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:18.080 a really cool Dinna jacket, or you know, depending on 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:22.240 what the season of the show was this particular time. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:27.760 And then when she was sad, it was she was 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.200 a little more covered up. You know, it was more 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:35.760 a looser fitting sweatshirt. Maybe she had on sweats you know, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.640 she made shadow tennis shoes, but she was just a 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:48.760 little more closed. Yeah, as far as her personality was concerned, 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.320 because she was sad. You know, when you're sad, you 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:57.600 don't go with the deep v and you know everything 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.000 hanging out? Now, were these all every episode was a 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:05.560 consult with Amy or Lauren? And how much input did 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.680 Lauren have in her own wardrobe? For example, a lot 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:16.080 of It was a combination of both Amy. Amy was 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:24.560 pretty pretty good about not I don't want to say 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.720 not contributing to what Lauren had on at times if 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.520 it was something special and if it was something that 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.360 was going to move the character in a certain direction. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:41.600 My informost conversation was with Amy um and giving her 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.360 what I felt the character was was doing and feeling 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.680 at the time. And then my second consult was with 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:56.040 Lauren because I wanted to make sure that Amy's you know, 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.400 Amy's writing this, so I wanted to make sure that 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:03.000 I was on point with how Amy was moving the 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:09.640 character along and how Amy saw the character feeling. And 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:15.960 then with Lauren, it was definitely consulted and we would 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:21.760 talk about the character, how Lauren felt the character was 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:26.400 moving along, and it was part of I felt my 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.600 job to make sure that we were all moving in 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.800 the same direction. So, because you know, I wanted to 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.080 be I wanted Lauren to be happy, but I wanted 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:39.480 Amy to be happy too, because Amy, it's her show. Yeah. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:45.640 A lot of conversations, yeah, yeah, and Um, even even 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:50.600 with your character, you know, it was okay, yes she 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.400 did wear the plaid shirts, but you know, there were 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:58.240 a couple of times where you didn't have on the 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:03.640 plaid shirts and what type of of sure where you 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:09.199 gonna wear? And you know, and especially because there wasn't clad, 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.040 there was a lot of decision, a lot of lots 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:16.560 of about and then I'd come to you and say, oh, okay, 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.520 so what do you think you know, I'd have a choice, um, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:25.280 who your choices, and I would explain to you, well, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.760 your character is doing this, that and the other thing. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:32.160 But it was always the first consult with pain. Always 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:43.040 I noticed the most, the most because I'm not really 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.200 looking for So if I don't notice that people are 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.439 doing your you know, your job is being done seamlessly. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.520 So if you don't notice the wardrobe, it's like and 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.480 you and you feel a certain way, then then everybody's 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.000 executing at a high level. And that's the way it 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.800 should be. Right, You shouldn't notice it. But the thing, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.280 the thing that really and so I have an eye 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.080 out for it. Right, So I'm really looking for because 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.200 I'm hypercritical when I'm watching these episodes, and I'm always 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:11.320 trying to find things. Um, inconsistencies are things I find 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.679 a little off balance, are great things and whatever it 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.720 is and the one thing I really loved was what 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:22.960 you did with Scott Cohen's wardrobe when he was getting dumped, 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:29.960 because right, look at your face. You turned him into 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:34.439 a he is right he and it was it was 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:39.120 And you had him looking so great at at Chilton 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.760 and those outfits, and he was so confident in the 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.400 hair and the the guy he is right. I mean, 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.920 it's just also great what a package he brings to 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:53.840 bear Um. And then when he moves in not moves 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.160 in Buddies, when he's staying with Laureli for that those 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.280 couple of days where they realized that they don't really 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.320 mesh as well, and when he starts vying for power 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.280 over Rory, it's like I want to have a say. 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:10.000 You know, you've got him in these fairly shlubby, oversized 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.480 wide collar shirts that make him look and he was 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.399 a little slumped over, because such a good actor is 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.360 just sort of slightly run over, right, So so it's 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.359 looking a little baggy, it's looking a little out of sorts, 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.480 it's looking a little i don't know, just kind of 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:29.119 high schoolish and unkempt. Yeah, And and it really translated 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.959 from him like, wow, this guy's just by that um 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.760 marker alone. I knew he was on his way out. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.919 I thought, yeah, we have to be a little you know, 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:46.480 you can't jump a really sharp together. I mean, I 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.760 guess you could, right from an audience point of view. 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.960 They have to be able to let go of him. Yeah. 0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:00.840 Who wants to let go of someone that looks they're 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.639 at the top of their gang and they're just slightly 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:10.119 going down hill a little? Yeah? Dumpan. I knew he 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.280 was going out. I haven't seen the episodes. Thats the 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.480 whole premise of the podcast. I haven't seen him. So 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.800 I'm watching these with fresh eyes, and I thought, look 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.680 at that, look at that shirt. He's not looking great anymore. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:25.679 And it's he's gone. He's out. He's not dressing like 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:35.840 a winner anymore. Um. Who who did you enjoy wardrobeing 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.639 for the most? Was it Sean Gunn with all this 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:46.359 any outfits. I want to say, no offense to anybody else, 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:54.400 but Sean is like he's he has a special little 0:20:54.480 --> 0:21:01.040 twinge in my heart. And the other thing was he 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:07.320 was different all the time, all the time when he 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:12.960 was just different, you know, he started off. Um, I 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:14.840 think he was only supposed to be in it. You know, 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:16.760 they were like, he just had a couple of lines 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:22.359 and all this stuff. He's always in it, and he's 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:27.040 always he's never the same, never the same. There was 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:32.359 nothing that you could really identify him. You know. He 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:37.760 was a photographer, he was he's a delivery guy driver 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:47.600 uber which was a filmmaker. He was the filmmaker. He 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.280 was so many different things and then what was it? 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:56.480 He was Jesus. He was Jesus in that episode of 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:04.560 Yeah and So, and he was a minuteur. That was 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:12.080 my favorite one because I had I decided that I 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:17.879 was going to paper machee this sculpture for him, and 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:23.400 it was It started raining and which means that it's 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:28.159 not going to dry, so that the set deck and 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:32.720 the proper guides are bringing these huge e fans and 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:38.720 on stage and they're just blowing everywhere. And um Casey, 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:43.320 who was our scenic painter, I said, what happens if 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:48.320 I put the paint in with the glue and the paper. 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:50.800 He goes, well, then it'll be the color. And I 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:55.960 was like perfect, and I just started doing it. And 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.439 one of my costomers, Lonnie Shot, went and got food 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.159 and she was just putting it in my mouth. You know, 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:10.520 I was just finally and we had a we that 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:14.679 was back when it was the beginning of iPods, and 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:19.159 it was four dred and thirty three songs. That's how 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.760 long it took me. And she made me a T 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:27.440 shirt that said four hundred and thirty three songs. That's 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:32.480 at least hundred minutes. It was. It was. It took 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.119 me a while, but we got it dry, you know, 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.680 blow dryers in the end, and he worked. So that 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.760 was one of my my favorite costumes. I mean, we 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:47.480 dressed him up as a woman. Um, it was the 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:53.800 revolutionary or whatever. You know, they always had a year. Um, 0:23:53.840 --> 0:24:00.199 he did his mind you know when he was and 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:07.480 then he simulated being born right. It was. It was 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:16.000 crazy stuff. It was crazy. I think they're in the 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.600 history of Hollywood. There isn't a better highlight reel than 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.040 than Kirk. I mean, if you just put them all 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:28.720 together right in one video, it would just slay. Oh 0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:33.679 my goodness. So he was you know, I bet Amy 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.359 probably didn't have any more fun writing any other character 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:39.480 than than Kirk. I mean that must have been just 0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:43.280 sweet comic relief for her. You know, Yeah, he was nuts. 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:48.040 It was. It was it was just you know, you 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:54.120 get this and I'm looking per curb curb. Ah, there 0:24:54.119 --> 0:25:06.560 he is. Okay, Jesus, oh my goodness. And now he's 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:11.040 you know, he's in Guardian of the Galaxy and he's 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:15.560 kind of the same character throughout those films. But it's 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:21.520 just really kind of cool because he's you know, they've 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:26.720 altered the way he looks. You know, it's there. They're yeah, 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:32.440 they're green screening him like crazy. Yeah, that group character. Um, yeah, 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.720 I see him on the convention circuit. I do conventions 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.240 now and I see him everyone. Yeah, we do. We 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:41.399 share an agent. We uh, we actually do signings together 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:46.280 and photos together sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, I did get to 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:50.919 work with him. I just finished a show called The 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.480 Terminal List, and I can't really say too much about it, 0:25:54.520 --> 0:26:04.720 but I had a Shawn guns waiting that was really lovely. Um. 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.800 We had a lot of laughs and it was just 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.960 it was it was great. Yeah, it's great. It's good 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:15.000 spending time with him. He's a good hang. Um, tell 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:19.720 us what it was like too. I mean, I know 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:25.000 that the the you know, the Netflix episodes, the year 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:29.800 in the Life must have been very daunting sort of 0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:35.399 planning for you and your team to do four seasons, 0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:41.840 shooting four different seasons perhaps in one day and doing 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:46.200 you know what was that? That was ninety minutes times 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.800 four in three and a half months. So basically shooting 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:53.480 four movies in three and a half months in four 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.840 different seasons. How on earth did you? How do you 0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:01.080 keep track of that? I had a really big book, 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:09.959 like I but I treated it like it was a film. 0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:14.800 That was the only way I could basically do it. Um, 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:18.639 and I just sectioned it off. You know, each each 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:23.720 character had winter, spring, summer, fall, claws. That It was 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:29.680 a little challenging because not all those seasons were available 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:36.800 m hm at the time, so some of them I'm manufactured, 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:43.760 I had been made. Uh. It was every time I'd 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.399 look at the call sheet or you know, the one liner, 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.920 we would just we were very very precise about it 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.719 because that's the only way it could be. And then 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.920 when they would change it up, Oh, we're not gonna 0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:01.760 do this today, we're gonna do all oh wow, And 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:07.800 it was I would just say, okay, that's fine, and 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.719 I'd go to their summer closet I had to build. 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:17.520 I built closets for each each character, and um, I 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:21.320 would say the most fun out of almost the most fun, 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.000 there were several most funs. You know, you can't just 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:29.399 do one. It's Gilmore girls, so there's a lot. Was 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:40.960 when Um Emily were the Levis you know LEVI T shirt, 0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:47.640 because that was so far off a character spectrum, it 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:52.000 just made it lots of fun. Let's talk a little 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.800 bit about this episode presenting Laura Gilmore and the dresses. 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.120 Did you create that dress Ferrory? Was that manufactured or 0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:07.520 was that purchased? Was that out her coming out? But 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:12.840 they were purchased, they were They were purchased um at 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.480 a bridal place downtown. We bought a lot of them, 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:22.360 all different. And the fun thing about that that not 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:26.320 a lot of people know is that when we did 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:31.840 when Rory was in college and she did the Eye 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:38.280 Jump You Jump episode, those were the same dresses. They 0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:42.320 were the same dresses. What I did was I, if 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.800 it had straps, I took the straps off. I like 0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:50.400 switched everything around, and then I died them all different colors. 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.400 And I didn't know if it was gonna work. And 0:29:54.440 --> 0:30:03.520 then those same dresses were worn by I've muh that 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:07.360 the there were this group of little girls and I 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:11.240