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Speaker 1: I Am all In, I wants you. I Am all

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Speaker 1: In with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio Podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 1: hey everybody, it's Scott Patterson and this is the I

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Speaker 1: Am All In Podcast with I Heart Radio one eleven productions.

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Speaker 1: We are gonna talk about and break down presenting Laura

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Speaker 1: Likeylmore today, which was an episode that created within us

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Speaker 1: so far just chit chatting in the morning or little

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Speaker 1: preambles created a tremendous amount of division and controversy already.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say who's on either side, but uh,

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Speaker 1: let me just tell you now that the full ball

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Speaker 1: club is back. We're back together. Danielle's back. She was

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Speaker 1: missing last episode created a huge hole in our defense

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Speaker 1: and our offense. Um, now that she's back, we can

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Speaker 1: really get into the nuts and bolts of this. Uh

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Speaker 1: but um, you know, I I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: little more, and it gained momentum. It really started gaining momentum.

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Speaker 1: It's putting Laurel in a position where she's being very

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Speaker 1: flirtatious with Christopher through the entire episode. And hoping against hope,

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Speaker 1: and it was just unfamiliar territory for me to see

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Speaker 1: her in that position when it wasn't me on the

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Speaker 1: on the receiving end. See, so the ego came into

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Speaker 1: play a little bit. I have to admit it was

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Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable to watch so perfectly executed. I think

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Speaker 1: Danielle has a different opinion of this. Oh, I cannot

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Speaker 1: wait to get into this with you, because we were

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Speaker 1: chatting before, like you said, and you and I have

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Speaker 1: opposing opinions about this episode. Yeah a little. I mean

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Speaker 1: we it's it's a little divergent, but uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: both went and we weren't together when we were watching it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to start any rumors, but um, you

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Speaker 1: know we were both ooing and eyeing through the whole thing, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was, it was, It was. It was

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Speaker 1: a delightful episode for sure. It had that Gilmore Girls impact. Um,

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Speaker 1: it had those big moments. Uh. It it really framed

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Speaker 1: It framed Rory's future and where she's going it also

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Speaker 1: there was that, you know, these these polar opposites pulling

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Speaker 1: in the episode, which was brilliantly um crystallized in that

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Speaker 1: stuff with the the girls, the young debutant's dancing in

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Speaker 1: the background with their fans. Um And we have a

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Speaker 1: very special guest today. I want to say that Brenda

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Speaker 1: Maban head wardrobe mistress, costume designer. Do they even say

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Speaker 1: wardrobe mistress anymore? My god? Uh? It was one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite people of this entire production. Brenda was a

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Speaker 1: bright light every single day. She was always happy and

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Speaker 1: and uh just a consummate pro And she's she's been

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Speaker 1: Brenda's influence on this show has been monumental and has

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Speaker 1: let's say hello to Brenda Mayben. Hello, how are you

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Speaker 1: on the left bank? And gay Paris? Oh? We we yes?

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Speaker 1: saying experience. The people that I work with are great.

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Speaker 1: I speak French and I speak Spanish and I learned

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Speaker 1: many times during uh this uh this podcast, UM, and

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Speaker 1: were they were literally bride's dresses. And got them for wholesale,

427
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: and they were very well made because it needed to

428
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: have a certain look to it too. You know, it

429
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: needed to hang properly, and it's all about the fabric.

430
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: If you have crappy fabric, it's just not going to

431
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: look the same. And there was a certain caliber that

432
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: because you know, it's Amy show, um, there was a

433
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: certain caliber that Amy wanted to achieve and everyone else

434
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: on the show wanted to achieve. So yeah, I mean,

435
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: so you're constantly I mean, there are no brakes for you, right,

436
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just a day, even Saturday Sundays

437
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: you're shopping and I mean it's just like it's a constant,

438
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: nine months, daily grind to get it right and to

439
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: consult and to perfect and it's just what kind of

440
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: days were you putting in? I mean how many hours

441
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: were you putting in per day? Probably about eighteen eighteen

442
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: hours every single day. Yeah, because it just it's just

443
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: what it is. You know, you you know what you

444
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: have to do. Um I have pride in my work.

445
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I love what I do, which it doesn't when I

446
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: sit when I say t I was like, well that

447
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: was working that much, but it didn't seem like it

448
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: at the time. There was this one time that I

449
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: came home and I fell asleep on the couch and

450
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: my house keepercame it and cleaned my house and I

451
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: woke up about nine o'clock at ninety like what happened

452
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: or stuff? Yeah, you know, because I had just like

453
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: dropped everything. When I walked in the door, my bid

454
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: was made. I mean it was perfectly you know, clean

455
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: me looking space and I she didn't move me. She

456
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: just I fell asleep on the couch. I couldn't even

457
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: make it to the bedroom. But um it, it just

458
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: doesn't Sometimes it seems like it's it's a long day.

459
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: But you know, I really love the crew. You know,

460
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: it all depends on who you with. And I adored

461
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: my crew. I could be with them twenty four hours

462
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: a day because they were like my family. And the

463
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: the actual crew on the show, we were all like family.

464
00:34:53,440 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't like people weren't getting along. Everyone

465
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: was there to help everyone else. You know, the props.

466
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: We worked well with everything with every if for example,

467
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: props and persons and things like that that are shared.

468
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: If polican Pola couldn't find it, um, she'd say, hey,

469
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking for such and such, and when I'm out

470
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: in the world, I would see something and call her

471
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: and say, hey, what about this. I'm gonna bring it

472
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: and you can look at it. You know. It was

473
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: cross pollenization in all the departments. So it was it

474
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: was a terrific set to be on it. Really, it

475
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: didn't seem it was that. So put us on the set. Okay,

476
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: so we're shooting those scenes with Rory being walked down

477
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: the stairs by Christopher and the Tucks and she's in

478
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: the wedding dress, the whole thing. Put us there on

479
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: the set. You're there, right, your brend Bren Brenda is

480
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: there checking in. You've got uh, You've got your team

481
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: there looking at everything. And tell us about the kind

482
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: of power you exert on the set. If you see

483
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: something's a little off and you need to make a change,

484
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: How does that process work? Do you go to the

485
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: director and say listen, uh, there's a problem here and

486
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: we need to I need to fix it. Do you

487
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: get that kind of authority? Oh? Yeah, did that happen

488
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: in that episode? Did that because there was so much

489
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: going on? Um, it's just you know, it's just a

490
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: matter of maybe the sleeve is dwn, you know, the

491
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: strap or whatever. Um. What happens is before they get

492
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: to set, Before the actors get to set, we're waiting

493
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: outside their trail rooms. So when they step out, we

494
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: already see if there's a major problem, so by the

495
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: time and then we we address it right then and

496
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: there on the spot. And then usually it only takes

497
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, um, depending on what it is.

498
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing really major because there's a fitting before.

499
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: So all of the the chances the opportunity is for

500
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: it not to be as perfect as it can be

501
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: are eliminated before they get to set, or at least

502
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: we hope they're eliminated. And then if it's something like that,

503
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: someone is in the room helping her put her clothes on,

504
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe the zipper walk go up, or

505
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: maybe a button falls off or something like that that's

506
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: going to affect the way it looks when it gets

507
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: to set. That's handled right then and there. So in

508
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, we help them dress where outside a dressing room,

509
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: give them a check, and then we go to set

510
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: and they have a rehearsal. And I'm usually outside the

511
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: trainer too. I don't let that get away from me.

512
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: So interesting. So so give us an idea of what

513
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: it's like dressing and how much more time uh an

514
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: effort goes into dressing and sort of managing the wardrobe

515
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: of somebody, say like Lauren or alexis as as opposed

516
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: to me, because it was I I must have been

517
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: the easiest person to dress. There was nothing to do.

518
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: Make sure that you know the it's on and that's it. Yeah,

519
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: that's that said. Our shoes tied? Yes, everything good? Okay,

520
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: But but the others normally it wasn't that hard either,

521
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it was it was pretty simple.

522
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: We were always outside the trailer I can't emphasize that enough.

523
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: Always outside the trailer um, just waiting and if there

524
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: was something. I mean, there were times when Lauren would

525
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: open the door because Lauren liked to address herself because

526
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: it was her time to get centered and go over

527
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: her lines because you know, I don't know how many

528
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: words someone should figure out? How many words did you

529
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: guys say without a lot of words? Um? So you

530
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: you want to give you want to give the actor

531
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: their space that way. Um. And then if there was

532
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: something that she needed, she would open the door and say, hey,

533
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: can I have um, I don't know something, you know,

534
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: can have a different pair of shoes? Or can I

535
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: have these are are a little tight? Is there a

536
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: pair that's a little more comfortable that'll go? Yeah? So

537
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: we go get it. And we always had a couple

538
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: of choices for Lauren outside the trailer too, so that

539
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: we and the trailer was fairly close two Our costume

540
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: trailer was very close to where you guys are getting

541
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: dressed anyway, so it was just a matter of two seconds, right,

542
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: Not to put you on the spot, but is there

543
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: any particular story that you remember that was particularly funny

544
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: that had to do with wardrobe and Lauren or Alexis

545
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: or or anybody or Melissa that was memorable? And then

546
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: away shape or for you know about the pajamas, right,

547
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know about what Jackson, what about

548
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: the jack see that's how steamless it was on the pajamas.

549
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, get the script at about eight o'clock at night,

550
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: because you know how the scripts, they weren't too far

551
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 1: in advance, um reading it. And then there's this description

552
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: of Jackson exits the closet with pajamas on with his

553
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: face I think it was what wasn't soccer? No wrestling?

554
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: With his wrestling outfit from high school on? And I

555
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: said a whole bunch of words like what what and

556
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: but like a lot of words, what what? What? Excuse me?

557
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: And that was the time where internet was just coming

558
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: into being, and we borrowed the internet from the stage

559
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: because you know, it was all cable then, it wasn't

560
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: in the air. And I had I called and said, okay,

561
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: so what time is he what's his call? Six o'clock

562
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: in the morning? What time is he going to? At seven?

563
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: And the production designers calling me saying, why didn't you

564
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: tell me that there was about this? And I'm like,

565
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know because there was no closet in that

566
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: house for them for him to come out of, so

567
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: they had to be up all night making a closet door.

568
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: I had to And that is another example of everyone

569
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: working together. You know, we had a grip that had

570
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: a nephew that lived in the senior me that was

571
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: a wrestler. We got pictures from his nephew, Jackson, we

572
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: called Jackson Jackson Sinnis, some pictures of him in high school.

573
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: We photo shop the whole thing. I had to call

574
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: in a couple of favors, got it printed. I just

575
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: confidently happened to have some pajamas that were all white

576
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: and at my house that were Brooks brothers, perfect size everything.

577
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: And spent all night long, in the middle of the night,

578
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: having this printed and had it printed, ironing it. And

579
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: the funny thing is that the place it was Federal

580
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: FedEx place they did scanning. It was the only place

581
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: in Marina that didn't. And when I was a lot younger,

582
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: he used to be a club and I just go

583
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: to that club upstairs getting this scanning. Then I'm thinking, well,

584
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: this is a far pride from the club day. But um,

585
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: we accomplished it. When he walked out in the pajamas

586
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: with you know, his face all over it, the entire

587
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: crew applauded because there were so many crew members that

588
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: had said, Okay, I can do this. You know I

589
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: can do that, and um, you know it was funny. Yeah,

590
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: great story, but Melissa, not everything was funny everything, but

591
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: you know a lot of the funny was in her

592
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: dressing room that I'd have to ask her if I

593
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: could divulge the funny, you know. I mean we were

594
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: laughing a lot. She's very funny person, just naturally talking

595
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: about anything. It's the voice inflections, the way she delivers

596
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: her words, her sentences are just naturally funny. It's it's

597
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: it's odd, it's just such an It's just I've never

598
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: she was the most talented person on that set. I

599
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: always thought she would have a big career. You know,

600
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: after we saw her at the Groundlings, I thought, whoa,

601
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: she's gonna be on Saturday Night Live. She's going to

602
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: be a big star. And she did. I saw Mara

603
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: Oh really Friday Night. Wow, she is um doing a

604
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: play at the looking Glass, the mar Casey. She's referring

605
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: to everybody she came on and they had a casting

606
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: season two on Go Ahead right, and she's she's possible

607
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: for a lot of the actors going on to great

608
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: careers because you know, Jemal Girls was their launching pair. Yeah, so,

609
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: and it was as if we had seen each other yesterday.

610
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: You know, it was just like see us, see you tomorrow,

611
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: that kind of of things. So, yeah, it's very much fun.

612
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: What can you tell us, uh about your experience getting

613
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: the notification that the series had ended? Were you preparing

614
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: for season eight? Yes? I was shocked. I know exactly

615
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: where I was. It was like, well where were you

616
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: and so and so? Yeah, I was doing. Um, I

617
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: had like another show that I was doing, but it

618
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: was more reality, so I you know, it wasn't constant.

619
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: It was twice every three months or whatever, and so

620
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: that's what I was doing. I was getting the personality,

621
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, the actor dressed. And I got a call

622
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: from Patricia and she said we're canceled mm hm. And

623
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: my reaction was what, you know, I mean seriously, it

624
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: was what And I said, you mean the show? And

625
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I just I was very sad.

626
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: It was one of those you know, it's like a

627
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: big party, not in the party sense, but it was

628
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: just I didn't feel like we had a proper goodbye.

629
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: It was it was kind of I felt like the

630
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: rug had been pulled out from under me. Didn't you

631
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: feel that it was in the offing though, because Amy,

632
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: the Warner Bros. Didn't sign Amy to a two year deal.

633
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: They offered her a one year deal and she felt

634
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: a little slighted by that and decided to step away.

635
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: I felt a little strange when she didn't come back,

636
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: because you know what it's you girls, is Amy. She

637
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: created that show and she put the extra something something.

638
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: It's like gumbo. She just put that that thing in

639
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: it that you can't describe, but it just makes it good.

640
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: And I thought, I thought David Rosenthal did a great job.

641
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: But how do you You can't. You can't replace something

642
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: that is, you know, that unique. It's just not coming

643
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: out of you know that he didn't create the character,

644
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: so it's he understood them. He's a very gifted writer.

645
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: He has nothing to prove anybody. I mean, he's a

646
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: terrific talent. But my god, asking it's it's too much

647
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: to ask somebody to take over a show like that.

648
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that was that secret sauce. You know

649
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: there's something something. Um, it still tastes good. M hm.

650
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: You know it was still good, but it wasn't. It

651
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: wasn't Amy. That's that's all I can say. But you know,

652
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: we did season seven and I was as long as

653
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: Patricia was there, I was. I was good for season eight,

654
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: and then we were not there. We weren't there and

655
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: I understood though, I got it, but it was just

656
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: that initial what Yeah, that show was done. It was

657
00:49:53,880 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: every every day when I had to fit or see

658
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: a lot of the characters that had been on the

659
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: show for the entire time, it was just so happy.

660
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: It just made me so happy. They were happy. You know.

661
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: There were a couple of tears. Even the dog, even

662
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: the dog before fitting thank you. It was just yeah,

663
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: even even the dog. It's like, oh my god, the

664
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Speaker 1: dog is still alive. Oh my god, bring you know,

665
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: bring again please. Uh So that was kind of like

666
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: the goodbye hello goodbye. Yeah, we had a three and

667
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: a half months goodbye. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. It

668
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: was really great. Thing that was missing was right, you know.

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00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: That was the first day we went into Remember that

670
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: we walked into that set and that big, that giant

671
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: painting of him. Yeah, I'm getting chilled right now, you know. Uh,

672
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: I just kept waiting because the piano was there, and

673
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: during you know, in between takes, he would just sit

674
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: and play the piano and just sang some silly song

675
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: and I kept looking over at the piano expecting for

676
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: him play. And we moved on from it. But he's

677
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: still he still has a huge place in my heart

678
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: and everyone else's heart. So that was the only thing

679
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: that was missing from from everything. Right. It was a

680
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: bit odd. Um. I wouldn't like to have put him

681
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: in jeans. He was great. He was great in this

682
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: episode two. I mean he's great in everyone, but what

683
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: a what a great performance in this episode, all the

684
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: fighting with emil A. He's losing his thinks he's losing

685
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: his job anyway. So we're getting to the end here

686
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: of our time. UM, I want to do something with

687
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: it called rapid fire with you. Are you ready? I'm

688
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: just gonna fire some questions that you have to answer

689
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: them as fast as you can. You ready? H Come on, faster? Seatbelt?

690
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: How do you take your coffee? Can you smell snow? No?

691
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: Chicago exactly? Um? You know I'm doing these from memory? Uh?

692
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: Are you team just team Dean or teen logan? Who's

693
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Speaker 1: the daddy? Who that person that she went on the

694
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: date with? Oh that one night stand? Okay? Huh interesting? Okay, Well,

695
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: we'll find we'll find out who that is. Uh, show

696
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: your binge watching right now? Made? Oh and dope sick?

697
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: Oh forget made dope sick? Okay? Uh? And I think

698
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 1: there are a couple of other questions, but I can't

699
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: remember them, So I think you did pretty good on

700
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: rapid Fire. What's your favorite car? Who's who? Wait? Minute, wait,

701
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: who's your favorite designer? Costume designer or design? Uh? Both? Uh?

702
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: Morley McGuinness costume designer and Gucci Gucci? Um? Uh city

703
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: you'd want to live in the rest of your life?

704
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: Have you been to the Rambo Museum here? Now? Okay?

705
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: Are you going to go to the Louver? Are you?

706
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: Are you gonna? Have you been? I've been to my

707
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: favorite museum here in my um muse favorite say the muse.

708
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a serious question? Would it would

709
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: it be possible to get roller skates inside the louver?

710
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: And could you roller skate the entire loup? And if so,

711
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: could you do it in under seven minutes? There's no chance? No,

712
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: But could you get roller skates in the first place?

713
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: Could you enter the louver in roller skates? You could? Oh? No, no, no,

714
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't it's too many people in there.

715
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be able to do it in seven minutes.

716
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: You couldn't do it, So it's just okay. It's one

717
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: of my dreams do the seven minute move and then

718
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: the next day. You know, I'd take the whole day

719
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: to go through, but I just want to see if

720
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: I can do it. Um, Brenda, it's been amazing, Um,

721
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: great catching up with you. You're one of my favorite

722
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: people on that whole set. I don't know how you

723
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: did it. You were always in a good mood. You

724
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: were always had full of cheer and smiles. Um. You know, people,

725
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: a lot of fans are very knowledgeable about shows, but

726
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people watch awards shows

727
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: and they sort of chafe at the fact that, you know,

728
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: there's wardrobe people up there receiving awards and like, can

729
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: we just get to the actors and this kind of thing.

730
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: What a lot of people don't understand is how much

731
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: work and effort goes into what you do to make

732
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: a show, to suspend people's disbelief, to make that stars

733
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: hollow believable, so people can inhabit it. Fans and audience

734
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: members can inhabit that place in a seamless way and

735
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: no pun intended, seamless huh um. And you did a

736
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: marvelous job. So hats off to you, and thank you

737
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: for your contributions to the show because it was really

738
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: a very and it's turning out now it's twenty one

739
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: years after the fact, it's turning out to be this

740
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: sort of like iconic. You know, it's like any day

741
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: the Smithsonian is going to call and you know, send

742
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: people around to the house, like where's the hat, Where's

743
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: there's the shoes, Let's go about, you know, and go

744
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: through my stuff. But I mean, it just it keeps

745
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: growing and growing and growing as the years go by,

746
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: and I don't think anybody's ever saw that coming. So it's, uh,

747
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: it's a whole new generation. It's kind of fantastic because

748
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: that means that all of the things that Amy wrote

749
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: about still it's you know, done the test time, and

750
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 1: there's still relevant to today's you know, the relationships between

751
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: a parent and you know, daughter or son, it's it

752
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: still works and that's the thing that's really important, and

753
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: that brings a smile to people's faces. I've had people

754
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: say to me, oh my god, did my mom and

755
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: I are watching this and the mom was little at

756
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: the time and watching it with hermas. It's a nice transition. Anyway,

757
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: it was wonderful catching up. Thank you for taking the

758
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: time out of your vacation, your Parisian vacation. Let's do

759
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: this again in the not too distant future. All the

760
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: best to you, much love and uh and and thank

761
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: you again. Okay, it was wonderful, wonderful talking to you

762
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: all right, take care. Okay. That was fantastic. I loved

763
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: catching up with Brenda. I missed her so much. She

764
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: was one of the things I looked forward to, uh,

765
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: going to set every day seeing Brenda uh and hanging

766
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: out and and having a laugh. It wasn't she fantastic?

767
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: What great stories, what great insight her And wardrobe is

768
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: it's so important, and I just I'm so glad that

769
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: that we get to do this and let people know

770
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: how important wardrobe is, because when it's off, it ruins

771
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: uh any storytelling. Max were I know, I know a

772
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: little bit about my craft. You know, there's there's you know,

773
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: wardrobe was part of it. I love the fashion on

774
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: this show, and I think what's really interesting is twenty

775
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: years later, especially Laurel her clothes. You could wear them today.

776
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: She looks so cool, timeless. Yes, yeah, and but yet

777
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: him it's like really crazy because it's twenty years later,

778
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: we're almost everything she wres. Anyway, Brenda may have been

779
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: a giant in the wardrobe game for film and television,

780
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: and we were blessed having her on Gilmore Girls, and

781
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: we were blessed being able to talk to her from

782
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: her Paris vacation. Amy, you can identify with that, with

783
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: your three houses and your multiple your multi lingual international lifestyle.

784
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: Do you have something interesting to reveal? What is that

785
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: about this episode? But I know we're running out of time.

786
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: We ran so long with Brenda because we're having such

787
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: a good time talking with her. We're going to have

788
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: to do a separate recap, uh recording, and we'll release

789
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: that in a couple of days. And if you're a

790
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: subscriber to the I M All In podcast, you'll get

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Speaker 1: a notification, So subscribe right now. Give us five stars. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a wonderful feature. So do that. Do what Amy said? Um,

793
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: I've done what Amy says, and it's look look at

794
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: where it's gotten me. I mean, I'm almost in one

795
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: of the yachts do have something interesting to reveal. It

796
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: was debating, is it is like a smaller Is it

797
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Speaker 1: like a Sessna? You have your own airplane Sessna, But

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01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: it is it is? Alright, alright, alright, Um, you have

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Speaker 1: your own series of what do you have a wedding

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Speaker 1: dress shop? Alright? Uh? You own a series of wedding

801
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Speaker 1: dress shops in Europe? Alright, They're called Amy's Sugar Shack,

802
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: Wedding Dresses discount. It's not a bad name. Um. Actually,

803
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Speaker 1: open a candy store called Amy Sugar Shack. We'll do,

804
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, We'll open up a division of Scotty Piece,

805
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: Pig Mug Coffee Amy Sugar Shack, and we're gonna have candy.

806
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: We can sell candy. Yeah that I am all in chocolate.

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Speaker 1: I've tried to. I've tried to make a couple of

808
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: deals man for candy. Yeah. It's hard business. It's tough.

809
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: It's hard. Yeah. I can't imagine to make a lot

810
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: of money candy because it's like cheap. No, the margins

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Speaker 1: are pretty good, yeah, the high end. But but the

812
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Speaker 1: tough part is the shipping. In the summertime, somehow chocolate

813
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: seems to melt and route, so you have to pack

814
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: it with ice. I experienced that. God was it with

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Speaker 1: seas some candy they couldn't have been shipped. Maybe it

816
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Speaker 1: was my Justine's peanut butter. I'm not sure it's one

817
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: of us two. And because it was so hot in

818
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: the summer, gun ship, yeah, they gotta put ice in.

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Speaker 1: It just gets crazy. I mean, I've listen, we're working.

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Speaker 1: I mean Scottie p Sweet Shop coffees, right, we wanted

821
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Speaker 1: to follow up with the actual candies. I was talking

822
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Speaker 1: to so many different people. We just couldn't strike a deal.

823
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: Couldn't make a nail. You gotta make a deal to

824
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: keep our wheels turning on things we can do. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so everybody subscribe because we're not as ye. All right,

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Speaker 1: so um, anyway, thank you everybody for downloading this episode

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Speaker 1: that Brenda mayban very special episode and we will get

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Speaker 1: back to you with another episode on the recap, which

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Speaker 1: we're probably gonna do right now. Alright, So al right, everybody,

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