WEBVTT - TechStuff Looks at the New Kindles 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.320 It's ready, are you hey there? Tech stuff listeners, This 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.360 is Jonathan Strickland, and I wanted to talk to you 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:11.639 a little bit about something cool going on at how 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.040 stuff works right now. I know all of you guys 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.119 are really creative and you love technology. Well, now you 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.720 can show us what you're made of, because Toyota is 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.360 sponsoring a new photo upload widget over at how stuff 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:27.000 works dot com. You can share your gadget ideas, modifications, hacks, 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.120 some great tech ideas. Show us what you're made of. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.640 Let us know how creative you are. You can go 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:37.120 to www dot how stuff works dot com slash upgrade 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:39.960 your tech and upload those photos. Now we want to 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:45.040 see what you got. Get in touch with technology with 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:53.640 tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello everyone, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.840 welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Polettin. I'm 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.160 an editor and how stuff works dot Com. Standing across 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.680 from me, as is typically the case, his senior writer 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:07.840 Jonathan Strictline. There. So, Chris, yes, Jonathan, you you know 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:13.240 how to read? I'm assuming who told you say otherwise? 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.920 Your editing job has been a complete sham, which also 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:18.880 would explain the quality of my articles to go up 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.280 on the site. I just I just delete every once 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.880 while to go in and delete random letters and in there, 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.959 I just look for red squigg lease in the in 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.360 the in the in the file, and if I've seen 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.280 your red squigg laes, I just go ahead and right 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.679 click and choose the first option to correct it. There 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.920 are far too few cueues in this article, so we're 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.840 a little cue that. That was my attempt at introducing 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.160 our topic today, which failed miserably. But today today we 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.160 wanted to talk about the the recently as of the 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.760 recording of this podcast, with the recently announced new suite 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:59.640 of Amazon Kindle gadgets. UM. Amazon had a big event 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.560 in early September two thousand twelve, the day before we 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.680 were recording this. Actually, yeah, the day before we were 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.040 recorded this, they had their event and they announced the 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.760 the new line of Kindles and Kindle Fires. I was 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.800 actually quite sad that they didn't, because they're now different 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.600 versions of the Kindle Fire beyond you know, WiFi only 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.400 in three G versus that sort of stuff. Now we 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:28.480 have two different sizes of Kindle's right, yes, Kindle Fires. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.720 So I'm kind of sad that they didn't go out 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.400 and try and differentiate the names a little more with 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:38.519 like the Kindle conflagration or the the Kindle burning sensation 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.359 that I think those would have really helped out a lot. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.680 But sadly that's um, that's not the case. I actually 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.640 was reading one of the live blogs at the event 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.359 as it was about to start, and somebody had suggested 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.640 one of the I think it was on c nets 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:57.600 uh forum and suggested that they go with other uh 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.640 all chemical elements, you know, like the the water and 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.080 you know, kindle earth. That would be interesting, right, yes, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:12.280 uh alchemy. So they did launch, or at least they 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.680 announced the launch of several new lines in the in 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.960 the whole Kindle family of gadgets. And of course, if 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.240 you're not familiar the Kindle, the original Kindle was an 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.400 e reader with e ink. E Ink is this kind 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.760 of cool stuff that has a charge on it. When 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.920 you apply a magnetic field, you can have either a 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:39.120 blank side presented toward a screen or a dark side, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.560 not the character from Superman, but a dark side presented 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.360 towards the screen. And so if you think of it 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:50.080 like each individual tiny element of this ink is like 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.280 a little sphere, right, and one half of the sphere 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.800 is that sort of light gray and the other half 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.480 of the sphere is black. And by applying the magnetic 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:05.760 field of coust the the the bottom of this UM display, 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.920 you can choose which side gets presented to the viewer, 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.160 and that's what creates the images we see. So it 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:16.040 looks like paper. It's not a back lit uh the 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:20.200 screen like an LCD screen. UM, you're not having uh 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.440 that kind of of approach. So that's why it looks 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.760 more like words printed on a page, and you actually 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.560 need an external light to be able to read it 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.880 up till now. Well, they that's one of the reasons 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.920 that the e ink kindles and the ink is a 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.359 company up in Massachusetts, UM, and there they were the 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.440 ones who really got into this UM, this stratagem of 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.720 of trying to uh, you know, do the do the 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.320 ink like this UM. One of the reasons it's so 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.600 efficient and the ink readers made by multiple companies, not 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.000 just Amazon UM, is because all all that needs to 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.520 happen as far as an electrical charge is reversing or 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.840 you know, charging the the substrates and material inside the screen. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.520 So once that's done, it can stay that way without 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:16.720 needing constant electrical charge like uh, like a tablet computer would. Right, 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.560 it doesn't have to maintain power to the screen in 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.920 order to keep it at whatever you last put it at. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.480 So when you turn a page, then it uses a 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.960 power it. You know, it says, all right, well, I'm 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.520 gonna turn this page. I've got to change the orientation 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:36.839 of these individual uh elements, these individual points the e 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.919 ink itself. But once that's done, everything's cool, which is 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.880 why why e readers in general, not just the Amazon line, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.760 but the readers in general, tend to have incredible battery 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.680 life when you compare it against tablets, because they're not 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.800 they're not consuming so much power. Now, if you turn 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.520 the Wi Fi on so that you can browse the 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.560 web or order new books or what wor, that can 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.960 drain the battery a little faster. So um, most of 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.240 the time, when you see like the estimated length of 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.719 time you can use a kindle before recharging, it almost 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.839 always says with WiFi turned off, now, those screens can't 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:19.320 be backlit. Um, which is both a good thing in 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.120 a way and a bad thing in a way. Um, 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.320 you know, you don't have it offers a very good 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.920 resolution this type of screen, um, but it doesn't allow 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:35.120 for that illumination, which is why if you had, uh, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.320 let's say a first or second generation Kindle, you would 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.080 still and you wanted to read in the dark, you 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.000 would still need some kind of light to shine on 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.360 the light. Yeah. Um, so you know that that's sort 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.000 of where we're coming from, right. But now now Amazon's 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:54.400 introduced a new entry into this line of products called 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:59.600 paper White, which um, I first thought was was supposed 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.320 to be paid or weight, but that perhaps they got 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:07.400 Aliza Doolittle to make the announcement paper light. All my 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:12.760 want is a paper light somewhere anyway, paper White is 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.200 the new Kindle uh and although a lot of the 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.240 older models are still also available on Amazon and have 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.760 been marked down in price as a result of the 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:26.480 new announcements. But paper White has a has a light 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.080 incorporated in it, although it's not a backlight. Still not 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.520 a backlight, um, which is good because one of the 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.520 things that I like about e readers is that because 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.480 you don't have this backlit screen, it seems it feels 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:43.280 easier on my eyes than reading something that's on a screen. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.400 So what they have done is they've created a fiber 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.680 optic cable essentially, except that they've managed to make it 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.400 a flat screen. They're using fiber optic technology, but they've 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:59.040 created a flattened screen. The fiber optics guide light down 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.720 onto the screen. The lights actually coming from above the 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.040 screen onto the kindle of being reflected back so that 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:10.120 you're seeing a reflection of that light, not the not 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:14.320 the not a backlit screen. Um. But uh, yeah, when 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.360 I saw the demo of this on some video that 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.080 I think I saw it on the Verge maybe, UM, 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.440 I was really impressed. Plus I thought, wow, this is 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.520 this is really cool. I just got a Kindle last 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:31.240 year and I'm already thinking maybe I'll upgrade. Well, I 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:35.480 actually have been using something with a similar technology. UM. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:40.000 For you know traditional paper books. UM, the the light wedge, 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.599 which uses L E d s. But it's basically a 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:49.160 wedge shaped piece of clear plastic. I think, I'm I'm 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.959 guessing it's probably lexan Um, and it's got L E 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.480 d s mounted at the side, and so you lay 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.199 it across the page of your book and it illuminates 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.840 the entire page without shining directly onto the page. And 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:06.400 I find it very nice to read by UM. This 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.040 this message not sponsored by LIGHTWEIGHTGE. I actually went out 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.040 and bought one. Um, they're not paying me, but but 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.600 I imagine that the the effect is very similar when 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.880 you're looking at a Kindle paper white, UM, because it 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.520 it does, like I said, a very similar thing, although 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.360 it's using a different way to achieve that effect. Um, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.600 and it's very pleasant. It it's not a bright light 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.880 shining in your eyes and that's UM. That's gonna make 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.200 it easier to read. Of course, now Barnes and Noble 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.880 has a similar type of device for its Nook line 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.360 of e readers, but I don't believe it uses the 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.360 same technology as as the paper White, and as a 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.760 as a result, it's thinner uh. And in comparisons that 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.400 I've read early comparisons, um, they said that the paper 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.760 White as a thinner uh machine. And it can it's 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.120 not as obvious where the light is coming from because 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.400 it is, you know, the using fiber optics and allows 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:07.040 Amazon to keep it um more uh you know, unobtrusive, 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.600 let's say. Yeah. And it's also it's also increased the 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.480 resolution of the screen. The screen is going to be 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.640 even more crisp than the previous Kindle models. Are that 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.959 it displays it two D twelve pixels per inch. Yes, 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.960 that's the or the equivalent thereof, and um, that's much 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.680 better than earlier generations of the Kindle. I mean the 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:33.400 other ones are you know, or fewer. So it's going 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.760 to have a nice crisp look to it. It's also 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.600 got a capacitive touch screen, so instead of you using 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:45.320 some buttons on the bottom to to navigate the the device, uh, 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.920 you're actually gonna be using touches, and of course capacity 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:53.120 of touch screen for those just just quick round up here. Essentially, 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.520 it's applying a very weak electrical charge across the screen. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.400 When you touch the screen, that effect of lee it 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:04.680 interrupts that that electrical charge. You you can you conduct 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.640 electricity too, So when you touch it, uh, there's the 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.960 the device can figure out, oh hey, there's an interruption 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.760 in the electrical field. It's coming from here. That means 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.440 that they want to execute this command because that's what 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.000 UM is connected to that part of the screen. That's 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.880 a very very very bird's eye view of capacity of 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.079 touch screens work, but that's generally how they work. That's 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.800 also why when you are wearing something like gloves, UM, 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.920 you aren't interrupting the electric field. It's not conductive, so 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.760 therefore you that's why you can't necessarily navigate a smartphone 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.720 or tablet while wearing gloves, unless it happens to be 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:46.120 the special gloves with the conductive fingertips, yes, or or 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:51.840 you're using a hot dog. There are people who've done it. Yeah. Uh, 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:56.280 it's it's got two gigabytes of storage. And UM, it's 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.920 multi touch as well, not just not just a touch screen, 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:03.240 but multi touch. Um. Was there anything there's something specific 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.120 I want to talk about with the paper white, but 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.800 I want to see if there's anything else you wanted 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.679 to why I didn't want to mention that the the 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:15.040 the simple readers, let's say, not the the tablet style Kindles, UM, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.880 the fire line. UM. There were there were four entries 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:22.400 before before yesterday's announcement, officially the regular Kindle, the keyboard 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.640 three G and the d X in addition to the 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.840 Kindle Touch. The paper White basically UM replaces the Kindle 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.840 Touch in that line, and the other three are still available. 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.720 Those are are are things that the keyboard on the 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.120 d X, which is the if you will, the magazine size. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.480 The larger nine point seven inch it's more uh comparable 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.720 to an iPad in size. Um uh. And the the 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:53.520 keyboard on the six inch screen keyboard three gum. People 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.440 are are complaining that, uh, you know, the the paper 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:02.319 white doesn't have the keyboard. People the physical keyboard on it. Um, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.560 well you know me, I'm a physical keyboard kind of guy. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.599 You are that that kind of guy. Um. Also, it 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.480 has no audio right on the paper white, so you're 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:15.120 not gonna be listening to audible books from Audible or 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:20.520 anywhere else for that matter. On however, it does include 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.520 their Whisper Sinc. Technology, which we'll get into a little 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.800 bit um that that really plays more in with the 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.680 Kindle fire line. But we'll talk about Whisper Sink when 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.960 we get to that. Um. Yeah. The thing I wanted 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.120 to mention was there time to read feature? Okay, I 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.920 read about this. Um No, I don't think so time 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.360 to read what it does? Is it actually times how 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.840 long it takes you to read? Yes? Yes, yes I did. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:50.440 I do like that. I don't because I don't want 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:54.040 to learn how slow a reader. There's gonna there's gonna 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.360 be some sort of nerd bragging rights going on, like 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.439 it took you, you know, twenty minutes to read chapter 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:05.319 I read in seventeen slow, slow reader. Well, everything's relative, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.600 you know when you put down your book and go 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.400 to make a sandwich or something. Well, the whole purpose 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.280 of this, well not the whole purpose, but one of 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.360 the things that the time to Read feature allows you 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.360 to do is, you know, the the what happens is 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.960 the Kindle. It just times how long it takes you 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.400 to read various pages, and after a while, it kind 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.360 of builds up an estimate of what your reading speed is. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.480 So let's say that it's late at night and you 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.480 are on the second book of the Game of Thrones series. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.080 I can't think of anyone that this would apply to 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.360 besides myself. Um No, But you sit there and you've 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.320 just read an awesome uh Sansett chapter, and then the 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.320 next chapter is a Brand chapter. You love Brand, but 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.320 it's late and you're wondering how long it's going to 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.880 take you to read this chapter. The time to read 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.440 feature would give an estimate of how long it would 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.760 take you, based upon your average reading speed, to get 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.720 through that next chapter. Because it will look at the 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.960 beginn and end points of that chapter how many pages 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.240 that is, and give you that estimate so you can say, oh, 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.200 it's oh, it's only gonna take me another fifteen minutes 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.840 to read this. That's no big deal. I that I'm 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.360 just podcasting tomorrow. What do I care if I'm a 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.760 little extra tired. And so then you go ahead and 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.280 you read about it and brand is awesome. Uh. This 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:23.200 can apply to books other than the Game of Throne series. Yeah, 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.720 you know, I'm still waiting for George RR Martin to 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.840 make him a baker by the end of the series 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.800 so that we can have brand muffins. Nice. Anyhow, waiting 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.320 all that time to say that, and all that time 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.520 before we should before we move on, we should also 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:41.520 say that they did release prices for these these devices, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.560 and so the paper white comes in. Technically it's it's 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.720 four different models. There are two that are our WIFEI 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.920 only and two that are three G. The WiFi only 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.040 is one nineteen dollars if you do the one that 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:00.360 has these special offers selection. Basically, you you at a 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.720 cheaper device in exchange for them showing you advertising. Right, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.600 it's an ad supported device, so you get ads when 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.360 the devices and it's off mode, and occasionally you get 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:15.760 it when you are uh navigating through stuff, not in 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.480 the middle of a book, or at least as far 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.640 as I know, they have never done that where your 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.440 actual reading experience is interrupted with an AD. I've never 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.680 had that happen. Meanwhile, back at the castle, hey, have 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:32.280 you ever had a problem? Right, but exactly like dragons 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:38.880 getting you down? Called Bob's extermination service, so George's could be. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:43.640 So yeah, WIFEI wife, I only with the with the ADS, 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.320 there's one nineteen dollars. But if you wanted to get it, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.720 whether it was not AD supported, where you have no ADS, 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.040 it's one thirty nine, so it's twenty dollars more. The 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.520 three G model is a little more expensive now three 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.760 G you get free three G service with this, So 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.400 that way, when you have your device out in the 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.160 wild somewhere and you're not connected to WiFi and you 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.600 want to get that next book or you want to 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.359 browse a blog or whatever, um, you can access the 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.400 network through a three G connection and you don't have 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.760 a contract, you don't want to pay for it. But 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:19.080 that's at one seventy nine with special offers and one 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.240 without special offers. Which to me is very interesting considering 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.080 the base price of the new Kindle Fire. Uh, because 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.600 you know, again, this is the e reader. The paper 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.840 whites the e reader, so you can do some browsing 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.720 with it, but it's very limited compared to a tablet. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.000 And it's of course using an e ink screen, so 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.000 you're you've got a black and white screen. Um, and 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:47.480 it's not as responsive. They they've increased the speed of 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.239 which the the Kindle is able to present pages to you, 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.600 but it's not as responsive as a tablet screen an 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.600 LCD screen. So I guess with that we can move 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:02.680 on to the new versions of the Kindle Fire. Yeah, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:08.320 that's actually interesting. The Amazon's press conference refreshed only a 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.639 small portion of the the regular Kindle line, just the 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.480 replacing the Touch with the paper white and and uh, 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.920 leaving most of the other Kindles alone. Well, they did 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.399 keep the basic Kindle just at the lower price, but 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.760 the Kindle Fire line, um, they added a a couple 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:30.919 new well two and a half new devices entirely. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.680 that is interesting. First, I guess we'll start with the 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.320 the Kindle Fire. That's more it's it's it's in the 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.080 line of the seven inch tablets the smaller one. Yeah, 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.440 and I think in a way it really kind of 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.560 set the standard for the seven inch tablet because so 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.480 many other devices and they kind of touched on this 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:52.080 and in the and the press conference that uh Android tablets, 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:55.719 there really wasn't one that found a foothold, like for example, 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.120 every once in a while, uh an Android phone, will 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.240 you know, one dotle of phone will really kick off 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:05.760 like Samsung's uh Galaxy S three is is huge right 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.040 again right around the time of recording this, but the 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:13.239 Kindle Fire has the lion's share of Android tablets and 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.520 it's set the I think it's sort of set the 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:19.520 screen size at seven inches for the popular Android tablets now, right. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:24.640 But they've decided to um to update this model. And 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.840 there are two different versions of this. There's the sixteen 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.000 gigabyte version and the thirty two gigabyte version. Sixteen is 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.000 going to be a one and the thirty two is 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.639 at tot nine. So what's interesting to me is that 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:42.080 the sixteen gigabyte version is one, which is the same 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:47.760 as if you're getting a three G paper white unsupported 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.600 by ADS. It's that's also one. So you've got an 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.560 e reader which some people would say is a very 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.120 limited device compared to a tablet, where you can also 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:01.080 do reading on the tablets, just it's not like display a. Um, 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.280 You've got the e reader and the at its highest 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.680 setting I guess, and the Kindle fired at its lowest 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.359 price the same, which is kind of interesting. Um, you know, 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.159 because again, if you are are presented with that choice, 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.960 which one are you more likely to choose? The tablet 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.040 that does all the stuff or the the e reader 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.640 that does one thing but does it really really well. Yeah, 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.000 And I think there is a contingent of Kindle fans 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:31.800 who are going to be just fine with the paper 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.359 white at that price point, because they're going to want 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.720 the illuminated screen and the higher resolution and they're not 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.120 going to care about all this stuff that the tablet does. 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.280 I agree. I mean, you know, as much as I 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:46.480 express skepticism, I own both the Kindle and a tablet. 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:48.960 So and I do all my reading on the Kindle. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.119 I don't. I don't read on the tablet. I just 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.480 stare at the web and say talk to me, Okay, No, 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.240 I'll read websites, but I don't. I don't read books 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.680 or magazines on the on the tablet. So the Kindle 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:07.480 Fire HD. This this seven inch tablet. It's got a 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.520 dual core Texas instruments process or in it. That's one 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.280 point two giga hurts. It's a little less powerful than 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.960 the one that's on the larger tablet, and it's got 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:21.320 a twelve eighty by eight hundred screen resolution. So that's uh, 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:26.080 that's just the basic spects update to that Kindle. The 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:31.159 other interesting line of products that Amazon introduced was a 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:36.280 slightly larger tablet, which is an eight point nine inch 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.960 screen as opposed to the seven inch screen. Yeah, and 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.800 they they cleverly named that the Kindle Fire HD eight 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:47.240 point nine inches. Yeah, it gets a little it gets 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:49.600 even more crazy when you get to their top of 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:53.160 the line product. The eight point nine inch screen really 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.880 means that this particular tablet is sort of going into 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.520 competition against Apple's iPad, whereas the seven an inch screen 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.240 is more in line with some of the smaller tablets 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.880 on the market, like the Next of seven from Google 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:10.119 or the Nook Tablet Nook Tablet from Barnes and Noble. 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.600 So um, but this one looks like it's really taking 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.359 aim at the iPad, which they called in their press 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:20.560 conference and and their their information online. The iPad three, 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.280 although Apple just wants us to call it the iPad 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.639 the new iPad, Yeah, which is going to be so 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:29.280 confusing after next year. I hear rumors, by the way, 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:32.920 that the new iPhone will be called the new iPhone 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:38.240 and not the iPhone five. Interesting by the time this 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:43.000 goes like, well no, well know, because yeah, the the 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.560 the press conference for that is literally the next week 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.840 from now when we're recording. So you guys are all 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.880 rolling your eyes, but for us, it's still a mystery anyway. 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:55.160 The eight point nine inch screen, it is a little 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.600 more powerful that this device is more powerful than the 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:02.360 other kindle fires point five gig hurt dual core processor 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:06.280 from Texas Instruments Um. It's also got an s g 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.640 x five four four three D graphics core. They get 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:14.240 process over twelve billion floating point operations per second. You're 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:16.960 scaring me. Yeah, it's got a gigabyte of RAM, it's 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:20.600 got nineteen twenty by twelve hundred display, and it has 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:25.199 two hundred fifty four pixels per inch, which puts it 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:29.200 in in spitting distance of the iPad, which has two 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.439 two hundred sixty four pixels p inch. Now that's the 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.919 that's the retina screen, right. The iPad retina screen has 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:39.639