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Speaker 1: of Amazon Kindle gadgets. UM. Amazon had a big event

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Speaker 1: faster than you would on the other antenna band. Um.

430
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Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting because I always whenever I

431
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: read these things, I think of it in terms of

432
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: my own experience. I don't leave the house much. Yeah,

433
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: I avoid it when I can. So when I think

434
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: of when they were talking about it's got it's got

435
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: a dual band antenna, it's it's so much faster getting

436
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: the data. What's going through my mind is, for me,

437
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: the bottleneck has never been the device. The bottleneck has

438
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: always either been the cable modem or the router. So

439
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: if it doesn't matter how quickly the device can get

440
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: data if it's not being delivered fast enough on the

441
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: other end. So it didn't even occur to me like, oh, well,

442
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: what if you are happy to be what if you

443
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: happen to be out and about with a whole bunch

444
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: of other people, then totally makes sense. It's just I'm

445
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: a hermit and I hate people, so I don't do that.

446
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: Although it would have been very handy this past weekend

447
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: at dragon Con because all those smartphones and all those

448
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: geeks hands just clogged up every single network. Yeah, yeah,

449
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: so they're they're one of the things that well we

450
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: should probably talk about the the other machine, Oh, the

451
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: LTE model. Yes, now it was. It was funny in

452
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: the in the presentation because um, Amazon's founder and uh

453
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: guy in charge, Jeff Bezos was sort of funny about it.

454
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: Was like, well, you know, the price point of a

455
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: tablet this size is about five referring specifically to the

456
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: new iPad. Oh yeah, that's it, the base model. And

457
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: I said, well, what could we do if if we

458
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: were to design a tablet at that price point? What

459
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: would it have in it? I mean, can you imagine

460
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: the amazing magical things we could include in this tablet

461
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: for that price, we could put unicorns and sasquatch and

462
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: and it could dispense candy. I mean the way he

463
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: was talking, it sounded like the only reason the iPad

464
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: is that price is because Apple. Is that the implications

465
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: that Apple is greeting and that they're saying the price

466
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: high so that they have this incredible uh profit margin

467
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to selling an iPad versus Amazon, which

468
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: famously sell stuff off at a loss because they're using

469
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: it as a conduit to all the content they own.

470
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: So thinking that if they sell you the they talked

471
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: about their tablets are part of a service. They're not

472
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: just a standalone device, So when they're selling you a tablet,

473
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: they're really selling you access to the Amazon service. So

474
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, it was there was there's a little

475
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: snark in that part of the presentation about how, well,

476
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: if we had a four dollar tablet, what could it

477
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: possibly have in it? And so they need to us Yes, yes,

478
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: it's the uh LTE, which is long term evolution. That's

479
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: what the LTE stands for. It's one of the many

480
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: for it well, one of the few UH really supported

481
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: uh for G communications technologies, wireless communications technologies, and it's

482
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: been very much in demand here in the United States

483
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: from phone providers. People are excited about seeing the speeds

484
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: Internet speeds, data speeds improving on their wireless carrier. So

485
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: this is a a huge deal, well a big deal.

486
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: Um and uh, you know, I can't think of another

487
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: tablet right now that supports for g um. Yeah, I'm sure,

488
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: I think, I'm sure there are others out there, and

489
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure our listeners are screaming in this right now,

490
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: but won't It won't be long before more of them

491
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: do this. But they're they're coming to market underneath um,

492
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: Apple's price point for this technology. Um. And you know

493
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: this is this is going to be a selling point

494
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: for this particular or device. Now. What Jonathan was saying

495
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: earlier was one of the main focuses of this event

496
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: was you know, hey, we're Amazon, we sell service, and

497
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: that that's what they were. They weren't shy about promoting this. Now.

498
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: They didn't say, hey, we're selling these devices at a

499
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: loss to make it up from us. They didn't say

500
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: that explicitly, but you know, based upon you know, there

501
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: are people who take these things apart and then they

502
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: estimate what the price of manufacturer is and in almost

503
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: every report I've read for the Amazon Kindle pasted. It's

504
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: one of those things where the price, the cost of manufacturer,

505
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: and the price that they sell it at are so

506
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: close as to be uh you know, it pretty much

507
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: means Amazon has to sell it at a loss. Yeah,

508
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: I think what was it, the the the original Kindle Fire.

509
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: When they first released it, they were making a profit

510
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: of something like two or three dollars on it. And

511
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: this isn't unusual. I mean we've seen this also, like

512
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: Microsoft did this with the Xbox three six and the

513
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: x spots, the PlayStations and Nintendo as well. You're talking about. Yeah,

514
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: the console itself is priced a little lower than what

515
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: it would be if you were just selling that to

516
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: make a profit, but you're hoping to make up for

517
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: it in whatever the services are down the road. It's

518
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: the old Gillette model, as they say, we should also

519
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: say that if you were to get the LT model.

520
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: First of all, there are again four different models of

521
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: this eight point nine inch display version, right, So there's

522
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: the there's the WiFi models which have a there's sixteen

523
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: gigabyte and thirty two gigabyte versions. The sixteen gigabytes priced

524
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: at two nine nine, which is incredible, right, A sixteen

525
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: gigabyte WiFi um is, that's that's very attractive. Very two

526
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: gigabytes at three sixty nine. Then if you go to

527
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: the LTE, the thirty two gigabyte which is their base

528
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: model for LTE, they said, oh, you know, you need

529
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: to have a lot of space on this thing if

530
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: you're going to have all this speed and everything, which

531
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: we'll get to again in the second because there's another

532
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: problem here. But thirty two gigabyte base models at four

533
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: and then they have a sixty four gigabyte version at

534
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: five nine nine. So those are your your four basic models.

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00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: One of the other things about that LTE is that

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00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: you have to pay fifty dollars a year to get

537
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: the LTE service. So that's on top of the price

538
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: of the device. It's not like the three G service

539
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: that that's free, right, the three G service on the

540
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: paper White, which is completely free. It's not like that.

541
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: So you now it is provided through Amazon, but you

542
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: have to pay Amazon fifty bucks a year to have

543
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: that service. So the device, the base device, costs plus

544
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: fifty dollars per year so that you can get LTE.

545
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that I think is a big

546
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: sticking point. They have a data cab on the LTE

547
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: data transfers of two hundred fifty megabytes m hm. So

548
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: that means you can't in a month, you can't do

549
00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: more than two fifty megabytes of transfer on LTE under

550
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: this plan, which is kind of crazy because I mean,

551
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: even if you read Amazon's uh stuff about why they

552
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: needed so much space, like the whole idea of here's

553
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: a thirty two gigabyte tablet, why do you want thirty

554
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: two gigs? Well, because the standard definition movie is five

555
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: hundred megabytes, Standard definition movie is five hundred megabytes, and

556
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: your data cap is two hundred fifty megabytes per month,

557
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: you start to question what are you using that LTE for.

558
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: It would mostly be for things like browsing the web,

559
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: doing social networking stuff like Facebook, Twitter, that kind of thing.

560
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: Those are low demand data, uh features, Right, you're not.

561
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: You're not churning up a lot of data getting on

562
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: Twitter and posting hey I got my new Amazon Kindle. Yeah,

563
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: if you were. If you were just downloading books from

564
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: from Amazon, that's not that's not gonna be that much either.

565
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: But if you wanted to download or stream a movie

566
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you're on you're out and about and

567
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: you don't have WiFi, you're gonna run up against that

568
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: tuneer in fifty megabyte cap pretty quickly. So to me,

569
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: there's a question if you if it's five dollars to

570
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: get the LTE model, the base LTE model, plus fifty

571
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: dollars on top of that to get the LTE service

572
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: and there's a two fifty megabyte cap on that per month,

573
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: is that really worth that? Or should I just go

574
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: with the thirty two gigabyte WiFi only model for three

575
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: sixty nine? You know, I save about a hundred fifty

576
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: dollars that way, A little a little less than that,

577
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: but around a hundred fifty dollars, and let's call it

578
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: a hundred thirty So you save a hundred thirty bucks

579
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: and you're not paying for this service and you don't

580
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: have to worry about data caps because you're only using

581
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: it on WiFi. Is the convenience factor of LTE worth

582
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: it considering that two and fifty megabyte cap, it's not.

583
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: To me. That's my personal opinion. Now for other people,

584
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: they may say I like the idea that i'd be

585
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: able to get books. I like the idea I'll be

586
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: able to do you know, the social networking, the web housing,

587
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. That's what's important to be

588
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: I totally get that, and that makes sense. And I

589
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: have nothing against you, guys. I'm just sitting there thinking like, well,

590
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: I mean, how much would I be irritated if I

591
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: had to find a WiFi hotspot? But on the flip side,

592
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about data capps. Yeah, And honestly,

593
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: you have to think about this. I mean, it's not

594
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: It would probably be more of an issue if you

595
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: were planning on, say, buying one of these to allow

596
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: your kids to watch movies as you're driving across the country,

597
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: that would be an issue. If it's buying it for

598
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: yourself to use, say at home, or take it with

599
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: you to work, want you to watch something on your

600
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: lunch break, or take it to the park. Um, you're

601
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: probably not going to be using wireless as much as

602
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: you would WiFi, I would guess, so it may be

603
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: sort of a moot point depending on what you're doing

604
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: with it. Right, So I think think if it were me,

605
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: I would I would be in the same boat, you know,

606
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: I would say. You know, I'm not gonna I'm frankly

607
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: just not going to use this on the move that

608
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: much because, um, you know, I've already been cited several

609
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: times for trying to watch movies while I'm driving. Yeah,

610
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do that. They keep saying that, But I

611
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: don't understand what the problem is. It's because you like

612
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: foreign films so much, and the subtitles are very distracting.

613
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: You know, I all those people with whiplash. I don't

614
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't get no, I'm I'm I'm teasing. But but yeah,

615
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, but it isn't an interesting selling point, and

616
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: it will be kind of I'm kind of curious to

617
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: see whether this becomes a thing. Um. There are some

618
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: other things to note about the the fire h D

619
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: s um, the the stereo sound with Dolby Audio Delby

620
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: Auto Audio duel stereo speakers. I kind of wonder how

621
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: how effective that is just because they're really really close together. Yeah,

622
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly the reason You've got two stereo speakers

623
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: that are by necessity close together because they're inside a

624
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: tablet device. How effective is that? Granted we should both

625
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: say neither of us have had our hands on any

626
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: of these devices yet, so we can't speak from personal experience. Yeah, however,

627
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: I do imagine that you would have a more depending

628
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: on how you situate the tablet, I imagine you will

629
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: have a more robust audio experience with it. Um, they

630
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: have not just a crappy little one speaker device right right,

631
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: quality speakers. It's not it's not this little tinny thing

632
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: that you know, barely can gain any music out or whatever.

633
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: But there are limitations to speakers at that side and

634
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: that close together. There's some other cool new features too

635
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: that are more on the service side. Uh, the for instance,

636
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: the x ray. That's exactly the one I was going

637
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: to mention. Yeah, now x ray. This is kind of

638
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: a neat idea, the idea being that, and this comes

639
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: from the idea of having a second screen type thing,

640
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: Like how many people when they much television, for example,

641
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: have a second screen in front of them so that

642
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: you know they're they're either doing work or often they

643
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: see something on the screen and they think that's interesting,

644
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: I want to know more about that. For me, it's

645
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: always I know, this person, what else have they been

646
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: in I've noticed this with my friends for years now,

647
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: and actually Google did a report about this, uh came

648
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: out just a few days ago. As I when recording this,

649
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: about how people use multiple screens, and that's you know,

650
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: not just a tablet and the TV, it could be

651
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: a smartphone and a computer, you know, multi screens and uh,

652
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: working on multiple things at once, and even even in

653
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: recreational use. As you said, you're going I I know

654
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: that guy, who is that? And you'll pause whatever it

655
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: is and go look it up on the computer, and

656
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: people just keep that nearby. So so what Amazon has

657
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: done is they've incorporated that as a service directly into

658
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: the Kindle experience. So let's say you're watching a movie

659
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: and you tap the screen, it'll bring up information about

660
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: the people who are in that movie. It'll bring up

661
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: an IMDb page. And Amazon owns IMDb Internet Movie database,

662
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: so that lets you that lets you look up more

663
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: info and learn more about it. But it's beyond just movies.

664
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: They also do it for books. So you might click

665
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: on a book and you learn more things about the chapter.

666
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: You might even learn contextual stuff that is mentioned in

667
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: the book. For example, let's say I'm reading The Devil

668
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: in the White City, which is it's a fantastic book,

669
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: highly recommended. I have no connection with with the author whatsoever,

670
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: but fantastic book. Well, it has two lines of of plot. Essentially,

671
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: this is a nonfiction book and it follows two different

672
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: things that were happening around the same time. It follows

673
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: the murderous exploits of Dr H. H. Holmes, who was

674
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: one of America's first serial killers. Terrible story but also fascinating,

675
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: especially for people were interested in criminal psychology, and I

676
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: think that stuff you should know. I think actually covered

677
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: Holmes's death house in an episode, if I'm not mistaken. Creepy.

678
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: But then it also follows the Chicago World's Fair, which

679
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: was being uh was being put on around the same

680
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: time as Holmes as deadly activities, and we've mentioned that

681
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: on our show before, right, and so these two different

682
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: stories overlap a little bit. But but it goes chapter,

683
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, each chapter kind of alternates. It goes from

684
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: homes to the World's Fair, to homes to the World's Fair.

685
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: And if you were to read this, say on a

686
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: kindle fire, and you had the X ray stuff and

687
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: it was all set up there, you might be able

688
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: to be you know, you could be reading a book

689
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: about this and we read a paragraph about a particular

690
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: person during the World's Fair who did uh some architectural work,

691
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that sounds interesting. I wonder more

692
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: if there's any more about him. You could tap the

693
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: screen and pull up information about that person or go

694
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: to a link on an article about that person, so

695
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: you can learn more about them. And of course this

696
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: applies to you know anything, not just not just that book.

697
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: That's just using that as an example, but it also

698
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: will give you information about the book itself, so not

699
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: just information that's in the book, but about the book,

700
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: so you can, um, if you're curious about certain things

701
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: like what else is this author written? Um? Or you

702
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: know what, what sort of other books are like this one?

703
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: You can find that kind of stuff out too, which

704
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty interesting. And they're also offering it

705
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: for textbooks, which is nice. If you get really intrigued

706
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: about something that you're you're working on in class, your student,

707
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: and you're you're getting into something, you go, you know what,

708
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm curious about this, I'd like to know more. Um.

709
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's a really neat idea. I also

710
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: like the whisper sinc for voice, which is cool. Like

711
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: if you're reading a book. Uh, let's say you commute

712
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: by by rail, um and you you um get to

713
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: the station you're about to get in your car, and

714
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: you've gotten to an interesting point in the book where

715
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: you can plug your your kindle into the sound system

716
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: of your car and listen to the audio book being

717
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: read to you as you drive. Ye. So this is

718
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: a little different from you know, the earlier kindles. A

719
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: lot of them had the speech to the text to speech,

720
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: but that was sort of uh, it wasn't it wasn't

721
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: an ideal experience. And in this case, it's sinking a

722
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: text based version of the book with an audio version

723
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: of the book that's been read by a professional narrator.

724
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: So it's this is an actual voiceover person. Sometimes it's

725
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: the author, depending upon the audible or the audio book.

726
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: I keep saying audible because that's where I go for

727
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: all my audio books. But if you you know, it'll

728
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: it'll sink those together so that when you left let

729
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: off from one. Let's say that you um, you like

730
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: Chris was saying, you just finished reading a section and

731
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: you're really interested. You can queue up the audio book

732
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: and it's going to pick up right where you left

733
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: off with the text version. So that way you can

734
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: continue reading this book in two different forms, um, and

735
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: not interrupt your experience, which is pretty cool. Yeah. They

736
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: also have a whisper stinc for movies, books and games.

737
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: Of course they've they've had it for books for for

738
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: a long time. But uh, but yeah, I mean, if

739
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: you you change devices or even with the games, if

740
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of a level, it will pick

741
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: up where you left off. And it says the Amazon

742
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: site says, even if you delete the game from your

743
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: device and you decide you want to go back and

744
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: do it again later, then you can. You can reload

745
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: it and then they will remember where you are. Of course,

746
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: all this information is stored in the cloud, which is

747
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: another uh selling point. This is another service selling point

748
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: for Amazon. Um, the sixteen or thirty two gigabyte Kindle

749
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: fires Um. You know, they have that limited amount of

750
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: onboard storage. I mean, that's a pretty decent amount. But

751
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: they also, as they advertise, if you download music or

752
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: movies from Amazon, they will allow you to store that

753
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: and it's basically free storage. Store it in the cloud

754
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: for free. UM, So that doesn't necessarily count against the amount.

755
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: Of course, I guess if you take it with you

756
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: and you don't have streaming service where you are, you know,

757
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: you go to the beach, and you're right, you can

758
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: choose attempting to bright sunlightning. I've used these services on

759
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: a very similar services on other devices in the way

760
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: it generally works as you can choose whether or not

761
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: you want a certain track to be streaming only, or

762
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: if you download it to specific device so that it's

763
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: available even when you are, you know, not not in

764
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: a networked area. But yeah, that's the idea, is that

765
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: that way you can store stuff in the cloud doesn't

766
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: count against your your devices on board storage. Yeah. And

767
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: they also have a screen time thing for parents that

768
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: as of right now is not available but will be

769
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: shortly USA, they say, in October of twelve, where if

770
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: you have uh kids who are going to be using it,

771
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: you can set the amount of time that they are

772
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: allowed to use it to prevent them from going over

773
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: their time. So I guess that means they have multiple users.

774
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: For the tablet, you can also set it so that um,

775
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: certain certain functions will be available longer than others. So,

776
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: in other words, you can set it so that watching

777
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: a movie or television or playing a game on the device. Uh,

778
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: the kid might have an hour worth the time or

779
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: two hours whatever. Um, But then if they want to

780
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: use it for reading, they can use it for reading

781
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: for another four hours, but they can't use it to

782
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: watch movies or whatever. So that's kind of interesting that

783
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: they've they've got that sort of granular amount of control

784
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: for parents so that they can shape their kids into

785
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: the automatons that they need to be so they can

786
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: lead us in the future. But I'm kidding. Of course,

787
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: I also don't have kids, so I can make very

788
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: cavalier statements. Um. What about immersion reading? What do you

789
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: think of that? Um? Well, I I don't know a

790
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: whole lot about immersion reading. I'm still catching something. It's

791
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty interesting. Immersion reading. It synchronizes an audio

792
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: and text experience of a book so that you are

793
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: hearing the book as you read it. So, in other words,

794
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 1: you have the text version of the book in front

795
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: of you and you also have the audio version playing

796
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: at the same time. And the idea is that for

797
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: certain people, and it's people from all different areas, Uh,

798
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: they they retain information and learn and um get more

799
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: out of an experience if they are both reading it

800
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: like themselves and listening to it at the same time,

801
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: that they they have a more rich experience with that book.

802
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: So therefore, I think it's something like around fifteen thousand

803
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: titles it's available right now. Where I thought I thought

804
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: that I had read that. I didn't have it in

805
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: my notes, but I recalled that that number being bandied about.

806
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, the idea being that you will read a

807
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: book while it's being it out loud at the same time,

808
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: which I can imagine particularly being useful for kids who

809
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: are learning to read. You know, if you're if you

810
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: get some books that are not as a complex something

811
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: like The Hobbit, which was a book I loved as

812
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: a kid, still do technically all right, so I still

813
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: love it, but as a kid I particularly enjoyed it. Um,

814
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: but that would have been an interesting thing where you

815
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: could listen to the book as you're reading along. Uh.

816
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: And like I said, for some people, this is apparently

817
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: the the ideal way to experience a book. So yeah,

818
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: there are a lot of new features that are being

819
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: launched with this. Some of them are going to be

820
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: compatible with the old Amazon Kindle Fire some are going

821
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: to be available only on the new models. Um, just

822
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: because they're more you know, they're they're they're more advanced,

823
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: they have the specs to handle it. Uh. So we'll

824
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: see how this does. I imagine that these are going

825
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: to sell very well. Amazon always positions itself very well

826
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: for the holiday market. And uh, they already are on

827
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: pre order. They went on pre order the day when

828
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: they announced it. And I imagine although Amazon also does

829
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: not tend to release sales figures, so we probably won't

830
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: know how well they'll do, but I'm sure that they'll

831
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: do pretty well. Um So, so Chris, Theoretically, let's say

832
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: that you had the ability to buy one any one

833
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: of these devices, which of them appeals to you most, Like,

834
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: you could only get one of them, but you you

835
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: could choose whichever one you wanted. Well, I I admit,

836
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: um see, I'm I'm sort of torn, frankly, um because,

837
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: like you, I own a tablet, but I don't own

838
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: any reader of any type. So I'm fascinated by the

839
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: paper white simply because, um, I would kind of like

840
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: to be able to have that reader experience that said

841
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: I have enjoyed over the past while that I've owned

842
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: my tablet uh and enjoyed having it available to read

843
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: books on and do other stuff too, and having one

844
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: device that does it. So, I mean, if I had

845
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: to choose one, if you were going to hold my

846
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: feet to the fire, I would probably go with the

847
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: eight point nine inch HD without four G because I

848
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: just simply don't need that connectivity on the go. So

849
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: clearly you go with a thirty two gigabyte because you

850
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: can have any of them, so you can go with

851
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: thirty two gigabyte WiFi only eight point nine h HD.

852
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: That is correct, That's what I would do. That's that's

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Speaker 1: that's the correct answer for you. I would go with

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Speaker 1: the paper white. And the reason why I go with

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Speaker 1: paper white is I love my e reader and I

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Speaker 1: would love to be able to um to upgrade that

857
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: because I do like I do like the idea of

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Speaker 1: having the onboard light there so I can read in

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Speaker 1: the dark and that kind of stuff. Um so I

860
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Speaker 1: and I really just like the features of it. Although

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Speaker 1: I am a little hesitant with the capacitance touch screen

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00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: as opposed to a physical keyboard. That does give me pause.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why I shy away from the Kindle

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Speaker 1: experience is that um is is it's a bias. It's

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Speaker 1: a and I fully had it is it is a

866
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Speaker 1: bias because the operating system for the Kindle Fire is

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Speaker 1: a forked version of the Android operating system. They took

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Speaker 1: an earlier build of the Android operating system as their

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Speaker 1: foundation and then spun it off. So it's really its

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Speaker 1: own thing, but it at its root it has Android. Well,

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Speaker 1: I love the Android operating system, but I prefer to

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Speaker 1: have a more in line operating system, like one that's

873
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Speaker 1: that's aligned with Android more directly, and and it gives

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Speaker 1: you a lot more flexibility with your device. That's one

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Speaker 1: of the complaints some people had about the Kindle Fire

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Speaker 1: is that it doesn't give you as much flexibility as

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Speaker 1: some other tablets do. Now, granted, you can work away

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Speaker 1: around around that. You can hack a tablet and and

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Speaker 1: you know, essentially jail break it so that you can

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Speaker 1: use it in any way you like, loading on other

881
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Speaker 1: operating systems things like that, But for the average user,

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Speaker 1: that's that tends to be outside their grasp. You know,

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Speaker 1: someone who just wants to buy something and just have

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Speaker 1: it work. Well, if you love the Amazon's uh the system,

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Speaker 1: then this is a great fit. And I do love

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Speaker 1: the Amazon system. It's just that all of my stuff

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Speaker 1: operating system for my tablets. Um that being said, I

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Speaker 1: think these devices look really, really attractive and their price

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Speaker 1: and I do think that's going to well. There are

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Speaker 1: starting to wonder if Apple is going to be forced

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Speaker 1: I mean, it does make you wonder they do. They

901
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