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Speaker 1: right where I need to be. Turns out, going out

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Speaker 1: to the bar is sometimes where you need to be.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to episode four twenty seven with Ian Munsick who.

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Speaker 1: When Ian left, I was like, I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: I guess I expect some of these guys, these young

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Speaker 2: artists who have blown up so fast because of social

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Speaker 2: media or because of like crazy streaming, to be a

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Speaker 1: It's unfair of me to.

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Speaker 2: Feel that way, because I felt that way with Bailey'szimmerman.

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Speaker 2: We were firstly ever interview, like he'd never done an

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Speaker 2: interview period. And Bailey and I text every week, like

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Speaker 2: I just check out on him and he gets me

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Speaker 1: Yeah like that. I love that dude, And you know.

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Speaker 2: He grew up and Bailey comes from situationally somewhere like

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Speaker 2: I did, so we kind of keep track of each other.

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Speaker 2: But Ian, I guess I just thought, man, this guy's

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Speaker 1: And you look at his pictures.

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Speaker 2: He's got long hair and he sounds like he's on

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Speaker 1: Dude, he was the best, don't you agree? Awesome?

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Speaker 2: I think also because we were around the same age,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I want to be his friend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ian was awesome and he's who knew he was an athlete.

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Speaker 2: W end up calling Gator who runs a bunch of

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Speaker 2: radio stations. He runs one in Nashville, but a bunch

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Speaker 2: and turns out he is. Uh So Ian munsick. Here's

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Speaker 2: a song called Long Lived Cowgirls. This current single here.

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Speaker 1: Long Live cal Girl, Will she Road? And here is

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Speaker 1: long Haul No we ain't one day? Round up through

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Speaker 2: And he wrote leather that Cody Johnson cut and made

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Speaker 2: his whole album.

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Speaker 1: He talks about that coming up.

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Speaker 3: You can be, but you can't break.

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Speaker 1: Think about this guy is and I say it to him.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have to convince anybody of who he is

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Speaker 2: because you autumn no, like he doesn't have to try.

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Speaker 2: He grew up running cattle by day and he played

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Speaker 2: music in the family band each night. This is not accurate,

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Speaker 2: but I pictured somebody in the family band having a bottle.

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Speaker 1: Ohug, yeah, jug like Andy Griffin.

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Speaker 2: Because that's that's what I think about when it's like

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Speaker 1: Somebody has a watchboard, the spoons, yes, and the spoons. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The youngest of three brothers. I picked up piano when

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Speaker 2: he was young, and I mean the dude's legit. Signed

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Speaker 1: He's got a one hundred million streams plus.

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Speaker 2: His first album, Coyote Cry, came out in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: which had that song long Haul. And his manager is

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Speaker 2: all right, here we go, let's do it. This is

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Speaker 2: Ian Munsick. Follow him at Ian Munsick on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he left and I was like, I want to

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Speaker 1: be that guy's friend. Here. He is Ian Munsick.

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Speaker 2: Ian, how are you, buddy man? You have a we

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Speaker 2: have I don't know that we've met. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have an interesting vibe in that I follow you

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Speaker 2: you might kill an animal and eat it before you

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Speaker 2: but you're also like a very pleasant dude. I didn't

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Speaker 1: Oh man, well, thank you and not you're you know.

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Speaker 2: You didn't seem not pleasant. You just you know your vibe,

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What like what you're married? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen I know I'm sometimes I'll ask to

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Speaker 1: The real you? Man? She would say probably that I'm

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Speaker 1: Like twelve? I mean, man, always helping like from a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, AC Radio. Yeah, like a luxury Campshire.

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Speaker 1: He played in a group in Wyoming, and the guitar

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Speaker 1: and he was a writer here, just a monster player,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna call I know, you know, a

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Speaker 1: Ground and now come up. No, but I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: of there. So with long lived cowgirls that originally had

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Speaker 1: What was that about? By the time our duet that

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Speaker 1: still like, hey, you can play the edit. What absolutely? Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: You know, you'd share that you never like writing songs

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Speaker 2: you hated it. No, no, But with Cody song leather that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Your dad? Did you?

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Speaker 2: I like, you hit him with the old let's circle back?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you never circle. But he circled. He

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Speaker 1: Do is so good, they'll do that. Yes, man, that's honestly,

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Speaker 1: of it and to help me. But man, that tune.

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Speaker 1: I wrote it for my older brother, who is as

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Speaker 1: You're not. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Nothing about you needs to be acknowledged as a cowboy.

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Speaker 1: full full time. So it's like, man, props to Cody

436
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: for living two lives fully because it's hard to do.

437
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: Man, Cody is a guy you want as your friend

438
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: because first of all, you don't want him as your

439
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: enemy just in case, because you don't know what he's

440
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: capable of.

441
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: And that's the scariest. Yeah, when you do.

442
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 2: Know what someone's capable of, Okay, Well, it's not that

443
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: scary because you know what they can do. Yeah, what's

444
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 2: great about Cody is he is. It's just like he's

445
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: such a cool dude, and he's so loyal oh yeah

446
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 2: to his people that have been with him forever, and

447
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: you feel like some of that stuff that you don't

448
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: know he's gonna go do to somebody they.

449
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: Mess with his people, Oh yeah, dude, Like he has.

450
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 2: That that when you meet Cody, it's like an instant

451
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,719
Speaker 2: respect yep of he's gonna shoot straight. You may love it,

452
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 2: you may not like him, but at least he's gonna

453
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: be consistently honest with you. And I think that's what

454
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: drew me to really enjoying Cody was. You know, I

455
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: do this goofy job where I.

456
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 1: Talk to people all the time.

457
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 2: People put on shows they're supposed to they're entertainment. But

458
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: with Cody, it's very consistent. Yeah, and I very much

459
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 2: appreciate that. And you spent time with him out I'm

460
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 2: assuming he's like that on the road too.

461
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: He is, man, he is, I mean, and I think

462
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: that you can tell that from his music. Man. I mean,

463
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: he does not ever record a average I mean, they're

464
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: all great songs, you know, like all of them, And

465
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: I think that's just it's a he's been doing it

466
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: for a long long time for for a long time,

467
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: and for him now to be the star that he

468
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: is in mainstream is so good for country music.

469
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: When you come to school here and you go to

470
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 2: Belmont and you meet your she's now your wife.

471
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: Did you have a bunch of classes together? How did

472
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: that relationship start? We had one class and uh, I

473
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: was a good student. She was not. How does she

474
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: feel about you saying that she's fine with I mean,

475
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: she's one of those that she doesn't have to try

476
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: to get okay grades. I had to work my butt

477
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: off to get okay grades. And then in college, like

478
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, like it just kind of clicked and I

479
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: got the good grades. But she would ask me for

480
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: answers for stuff. So yes, she would cheat off of me.

481
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: Was it sort of romantic while she was cheating off?

482
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: Now?

483
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: No, she was like, I am here for one reason

484
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: and to pass his class?

485
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: And were you letting her cheat because possibly like she's hot?

486
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: Kind of yeah? How would you not? Yeah? Yeah?

487
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: At what point did you guys start to turn a

488
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: scholastic relationship into something that's a little more non professional.

489
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: So she was at Tin Roof Classic how it always

490
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: starts right in Nashville. She was at Tin Roof and

491
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: Travis Tritt's crew was there, and she had known them

492
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: for a while and was good friends with them, and

493
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: Travis Tritt's kid named Tristan. He came up to her

494
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: and was like, oh my gosh, I just I found

495
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: this guy. He's awesome. You got to hear his music

496
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: and he plays me on on his phone on YouTube.

497
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: I think to her, and she's like, oh my gosh,

498
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: I know that guy. No way, I need to call

499
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: him real quick. Some you didn't set that up.

500
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: No, no, some dude goes up to this girl that

501
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: you're letting cheat off of you, that you're helping in

502
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: school because she's cool and she's pretty. You happen to

503
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 2: have this thing going. It's not a thing again, it's

504
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: a scholastic thing. But to you, you're like, she's awesome.

505
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 2: Some that she knows that you don't know takes a

506
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: video of you and goes this, dude's awesome. Yes, yes,

507
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: that's the greatest story I've ever heard. If that's true,

508
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 2: it is one.

509
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: And then she calls me because like, hey, like, I

510
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: know it's been a while, but you need to come

511
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: down here and so the bar, Yes, got it? And

512
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of guy. I was in the studio,

513
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: home studio making music and I was like, ah, gosh,

514
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: I do not want to do this. I'm like right

515
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: where I need to be. Turns out, going out to

516
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: the bar is sometimes where you need to be. And

517
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: I did that And what was that night? Like? He

518
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: was actually like, yeah, did she was?

519
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: She like kind of interested in now because there was

520
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: a different side of you she saw.

521
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: I think she really just wanted me to meet them,

522
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, got it. She's still thinking

523
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: about I knew her heart as like dude, you have

524
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: a pure heart and you want what's best for me,

525
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: And it's like that is just an easy It was

526
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: just a very organic way for her to be my manager,

527
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: and then through that we fell in love. Like a

528
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: few months later, did you feel when she was managing you,

529
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: because again, you didn't start dating right when she started

530
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: managing No, no, but did you feel when you guys

531
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: started dating that you needed to hide that for a while? Yes? Yes,

532
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: you know. I was a twenty four year old new artist,

533
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: no labels deal, no publishing deal, no agency, nothing, and

534
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: she was a brand new manager, didn't have any employees,

535
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: just new people in town. So we were like, hey,

536
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: I think for people to know that we're for real

537
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: and what we're trying to do, let's just make sure

538
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: that we keep it professional. And then we announced us

539
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: going out for the first time when she was pregnant. Surprise.

540
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how pregnant though, I mean large? Okay, so

541
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: that and this is my question and I was gonna

542
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: get to this. So she's like, she's pregnant. You know,

543
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: she's pregnant, but she's not dating anybody, So what's that

544
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: story for the first five.

545
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: And a half month.

546
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't even know, dude, immaculate conception.

547
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: I think I think she told her good friends. I

548
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: told my good friends and my family obviously, and her family,

549
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: But honestly, I don't really even know how people didn't.

550
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people thought that we

551
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: were going out, yeah, even before she was pregnant, just

552
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: because it's like, all right, these two were always together,

553
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: they've been together for two years, they're both young, you know,

554
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, we announced to the world that one we're

555
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: dating two, We're going to have a child in three months.

556
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: It's a lot of now, yeah that's a big announce Yeah,

557
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: a lot of likes on Instagram, it's a lot of

558
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: it's a lot of double analysis.

559
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So and then what was like having a baby? Awesome? Man,

560
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it was. It was the best thing that's

561
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: ever happened to me. And you know, I've always been music, music, music.

562
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: If I'm not spending my time creating music, I'm wasting

563
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: my time. Having the child totally changed that. Whereas if

564
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm not with him or creating music that's going to

565
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: help him, then I'm wasting my time. And it gave

566
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: me a new perspective on creating music, which has helped

567
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: my music, which is kind of you don't really think

568
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: that those two things go hand in hand, but man

569
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: they do. And he is the man. I love, love

570
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: love love being a dad. It is awesome.

571
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: The interesting thing about your baby, and I'd not seen

572
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: it with another baby before, but when he was born,

573
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: he had a beard and long hair, and I never

574
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: see on a baby.

575
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: I just knew it was your kid though.

576
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: With the eagle, yeah, yeah, I was like, that's the Hey,

577
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: that's Ian Skid.

578
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: You can definitely tell there.

579
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: So all the all the munsig boy, what's up worth it?

580
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 2: What's the music still? Do you ever get back together.

581
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: And play around? Man? Yeah, we get together a few

582
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: times a year. I always try and throw them on

583
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: at least one one gig a year. But man, they're

584
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: in Wyoming. I mean they all three live on their

585
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: own ranches and they don't really like leaving. I wouldn't either.

586
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't like leaving. I don't want to go anywhere ever. Yeah.

587
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're probably where it's like you probably travel

588
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: so much.

589
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when I'm home. I just want to be homed.

590
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, earlier I just felt you and you said I'm

591
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: kind of the party pooper. But it's when you're always

592
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: having to be at the party, I know, or throw

593
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: the party.

594
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: That's the real thing. The last thing you want to

595
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: do is go to another party. Yeah yep. Yeah, So

596
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: it's like I don't.

597
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: I never want to be gone. I've gone so much

598
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: doing that. It's like when I and be home, I

599
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: just want.

600
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: To be home. Yeah.

601
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have how's playing these shows and playing

602
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of show at night?

603
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: How's your voice man for me, I have a high voice,

604
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: so uh, I'm not one of those guys that can

605
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: like drink and smoke all night and then be even

606
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: cooler in the morning. Like I have to like drink

607
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: a ton of water, drink tea every night to make

608
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: sure I get eight hours asleep. It's kind of like

609
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: my whole world really revolves around my voice, which is

610
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: good for my health. Honestly, like it, like it, like

611
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: it makes me want to take care of my It's not.

612
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: Always convenient, but no, but Matt macro, yes, it's definitely

613
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: good for you.

614
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

615
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: You know a friend of mine that are singers or

616
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: even lead singers of bands, and not even people that

617
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm friends with me they have more of a responsibility

618
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: because let's just say you're in a five bands, say

619
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: you're in cold Play. Well, Chris Martin, he can't get sick.

620
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: He can't lose his voice. Where the other guys they can.

621
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: You hope they don't. But the show goes on. If

622
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: there's not a keyboardist or you, all your guys are

623
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: depending on you.

624
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

625
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: And if you go out and stay up too late

626
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: and don't get enough sleep, yeah, the voice goes and

627
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: so there's a real I think it's pretty fortunate that

628
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: you're lame. Then that's that's how I feel about waking

629
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: up early in the morning. I'm very fortunate that I'm

630
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: lame because if not this, that this would have been

631
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: brutal for me to wake up this or.

632
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, it's helped me take care of myself,

633
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: and I'm jealous the people that don't have to take

634
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: care of their voices. Same but at the same time,

635
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: it's the macro thing, like.

636
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: You said, yeah, music growing up what because again it's

637
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: this kind of juxtaposition of a cowboy versus somebody who's

638
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: I would assume you're a millennial or gen z right in,

639
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: like okay, yes, almost you're a millennial.

640
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So here you are.

641
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: And you got that mixture of cowboy which I think

642
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: classic country, which I think all of those influences of

643
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: even not even Nashville country, like some of that California

644
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: stuff like one.

645
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: But then also, yeah, had streaming.

646
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: Music, So what was it for you that you would

647
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: listen to all the time.

648
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So, being the youngest of three boys, CDs were

649
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: it for me and my brothers had those huge albums

650
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: you know that that you'd with the four on each side. Yeah.

651
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: Uh so stealing my older brother's albums was Blinklin eighty two, Sublime,

652
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: Eminem Tupac, System of a Down. Those were kind of

653
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: the main ones. And dude, those albums I just wore

654
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: to death. Yeah those are those were really the main

655
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: influential artists of my teens. And then when I moved

656
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: away from Wyoming was really when I was like, oh

657
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: my gosh, like, I need music that can make me

658
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: feel like I'm back home now. So it's always that escapism. Man,

659
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: Like being on the ranch. It's like, all right, yes,

660
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: I love the country music, but I want to feel

661
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: like I'm not here, you know. And then you leave

662
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh man, I wish I was back home.

663
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: So the grass is always greener. And that's what I

664
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: think I've tried to hone in on in my music

665
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: is to make people feel like they're in the West

666
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: three minutes at a time, even though they might be

667
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: on the East Coast. So I think escapism is what

668
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: is a thing that is incredibly magical about music.

669
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

670
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: Bobby Cast.

671
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: You had music built into you, like you said, there

672
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: was a culture of music that we all had, the

673
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: escapism type of music because you know, Blank One, a

674
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: two punk band from California, California, right, mike' whre they're

675
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: from from Okay. So but what music was there that

676
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: you had no choice? Because we all had those two absolutely,

677
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of gospel records going up.

678
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: But I had no choice. I just knew them.

679
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: I didn't want to listen to if I had to choose.

680
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: But that was the built in musical culture. Yeah, what

681
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: about for you? For me, it was Merle Haggard Ian Tyson,

682
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: those were kind of the two. But my dad being

683
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: a musician and a really good one too, I mean, dude,

684
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: he can play jazz music. I mean he's all over

685
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: the place. He's a freak. So there was just a

686
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: ton of music. Man, there was all kinds of music

687
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: in my house. Where did that come? I mean, it

688
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: was just naturally. He said that he took piano for

689
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: two years when he was like five years old, didn't

690
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: touch the piano until he was twenty two, and then

691
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: he said that had just clicked and then he could

692
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: just play all this stuff. It's like, how does that

693
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: even make sense.

694
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like somebody waking up after a wreck and

695
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: speaking in a British like I don't even understand how

696
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: that happens, like whatever is happening in the body.

697
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: So, but some of that had to come down to you,

698
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: I think. So yeah, yeah, what.

699
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm nothing's easy, especially being great at anything. Nothing, nothing's

700
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: easy to be great at. What to you, though, do

701
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: you feel like you take naturally to the most.

702
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: Honestly, man, my ears like hearing the chords hearing can

703
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: you hear a chord? Inate it? No? No, I'm not,

704
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: that's what I heard. I don't have perfect, perfect pictures. No, no, no, no,

705
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: that is a curse, not a blessing. I always, in

706
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: terms of writing, melodies come very natural to me, and

707
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: melody first times, most times, most of the time. Yeah,

708
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't have that, then I don't want

709
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: any part of it. It's like like, if you're going

710
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: to do that, then just write a poem, you know, Yeah,

711
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: like there has to be a good melody.

712
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I write a poem, loser, that's what I say.

713
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: A melody called a poem, idiot, that's what I say. Uh,

714
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't want to say that I'm

715
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: just being cool right now, white buffalo?

716
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: What is it? What does that mean? So? In Native

717
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: America culture, it is a omen of good things to

718
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: come in.

719
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: The future and return. Really, so if you see one

720
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: to the old days.

721
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Yes, like an opposite of the black cat, that's yeah,

722
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Yes, hush, green grass. Plenty of animals

723
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: to hunt, that's what white buffalo means. Would anybody own

724
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: a white buffalo and.

725
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: Like just strategically drop it off places because that would

726
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: be legit, Like you hire a white blow that didn't

727
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: have Okay, I don't want to scam, but I know.

728
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: A lot of people have them. Really, the lot of

729
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: people there's more than three. I get tagged and stuff

730
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: all the time. That's like a white buffalo that was

731
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: just born on a ranch and this guy is so cool.

732
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: Is it supposed to be super good luck if you have,

733
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: like a white buffalo is born to you.

734
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big time, big time. Yeah.

735
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: I always heard I people see a dog taking a dump,

736
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: it's good luck.

737
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: Oh gods should drive by you ever see that? I mean,

738
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: you ever hear that? That good luck?

739
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: Like if you drive buying a dog's in mid dump,

740
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: like that's supposed to be good luck.

741
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Well, hey man, now I know, but.

742
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: If you see a white buffalo taking a dump, that's

743
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: that's why get a lottery. Take Yeah, so white buffalo

744
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: obviously it means something to you personally. He told us

745
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: what the actual meaning is. Why take that and personally

746
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: put that with your brand?

747
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Man? So I had I had that idea for a title.

748
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: So we wrote it. And after we wrote it, I

749
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: remember I played it for my wife and she's like,

750
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that needs to be the title track.

751
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what sparked the idea to do

752
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: the documentary and to really incorporate Native American themes in

753
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: our branding and all of that. And man, it just

754
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: there's a certain spiritualism that goes hand in hand with

755
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: the part of the country that I come from that

756
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: I think people are so attracted to, and it's the

757
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: land and the animals, and that is like the perfect

758
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: icon to encapsulate those things.

759
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: If you go back a few years, your last maybe

760
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: your last I may mess this up, so tell me

761
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: if I do go from a memory here, but coyote cry, Yeah,

762
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: uh okay, so that was that?

763
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: Why was it?

764
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: Coyote cried then white but yes, okay, so okay we

765
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: go we got another animal? Yeah, I already cry what's

766
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: up with that?

767
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: That? That is a lyric in my song long Haul,

768
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: and Long Haul was was kind of the tune that

769
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: this is my first gold record. It introduced me to

770
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people in mainstream country music, and it

771
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: was a lyric in that. So like I always had

772
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: the idea of like, Okay, that could be a cool name,

773
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: and then I was like, I do this howling thing

774
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: to quite a bit to my music. So it kind

775
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: of like is like a wink to that as well.

776
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: The howling thing is like almost like Jason Derula, it's

777
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: kind of you know what that is I do?

778
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course make it sure because it's

779
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: not another one or another. Yeah, it's like you're you know,

780
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, man exactly. You're

781
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: going out with Lanny Wilson. That's pretty cool. Yeah, Wade

782
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: and beast crazy.

783
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: I know, dude, I still have right down the road

784
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: from where I live now in Whenever. Blanco first before

785
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: the Get Up Blew Up, there was a video of

786
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: him and Laney doing the get Up That dance and

787
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: went viral. And they were dancing the parking lot of

788
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: their record label. I texted Laney, I mean, she barely

789
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: had a deal, and I was like, hey, will you

790
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: come show me how to do this dance? And she

791
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: so she came over to the house showed me how

792
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: to do the dance, and so I got a little

793
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: crew over to shoot us doing it because it was

794
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: going a boy. I thought it be funny to do

795
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: and I was like, Lanny, do you want to get

796
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: in the video? And She's like, Nah, nobody's gonna know

797
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: who I am. There's gonna be confused if I'm in

798
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,959
Speaker 2: this video with you guys.

799
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: Wow. And now how many years ago?

800
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: Is that?

801
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: Eighteen? Okay? Yeah? Five?

802
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not that I mean, but really in

803
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: the grand scheme.

804
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: Oh dude, yeah, not that long ago, I know.

805
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: And to see somebody like her and what's crazy? And

806
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: this is how I'm going to get it back to you?

807
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: Is that again?

808
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: I've known Lanny when she was just from Arkansas. She's

809
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: from Louisiana. She had a very thick accent. When it

810
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: was just hilarious that her accent was so thick and

811
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: she was lady and that's just who she was. But

812
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: now to see people be like that accent's fake. Yeah,

813
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: she's putting on yeah, like no, yeah, none of that's fake.

814
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: I've been knowing lady for a long time.

815
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't fake then, it's not fake now. So but

816
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: somebody who has again, her brand is so much who

817
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: she really is.

818
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: Same with you.

819
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: Do people ever go come on, dude, oh yeah all

820
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: the time like you faking it a little bit, especially

821
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: now where the cowboys are cool and like the whole,

822
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: like the Yellowstone thing, it's like, oh my gosh, like

823
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 2: you you're not really from a ranch in Wyoming.

824
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, all right if you don't think so they.

825
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: Start talking to Australia and then be like it, don't

826
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: tell you what, ud I imagine because again you're so that,

827
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 2: but you're so naturally that that people have to question

828
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: it because you're so good at it.

829
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Well gosh, I don't yeah, I don't. I don't know, man.

830
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: It's a just being from the state of Wyoming. There's

831
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: there's nobody else in country music from there, Like have

832
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: you met anybody from Wyoming? Well? Funny as because I'm

833
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: gonn to give you a bad answer on this one.

834
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: I played Frontier Days with Toby Kei and yeah, so

835
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: it was there were a bunch of people and then

836
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: we were next to last and Toby was was right?

837
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: Was right? Then we got long ago? Was that three

838
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: four years ago?

839
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: And so I'll see if can gets with the artist

840
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: is And so we're playing who was Chancey Williams?

841
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: No, ned La Yes, isn't it ned La dou?

842
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: And so ned was playing a couple of spots in

843
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: front of us, and we were just talking about Wyoming.

844
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: And so when you said that, I think you're right.

845
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: Nobody that like has super crossed over that, like general

846
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: public would go Wyoming. But I cheat, I was there,

847
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: I played it.

848
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: You know you were in Wyoming. Yes, yes, but.

849
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's kind of cool being being from markets.

850
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: A lot of people that my state's pretty impoverished and

851
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: there's not for me. There's not a lot of people

852
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: that have the resources to get out where Wyoming is.

853
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: You guys have your own culture that's in port. You're ranching,

854
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: You're like what you guys do that it's different than

855
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: being impoverished, but that.

856
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: Culture is not to get out.

857
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: No, it's freaking an awesome job being in YEP and

858
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: so it makes sense there's not a lot of people

859
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: that are like Wyoming.

860
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I mean I was. Of my classmates, I

861
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: think two or three of us aren't in Wyoming anymore,

862
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: you know, so, but we only had a class of

863
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: like thirty people. But so that's kind of a high percentage.

864
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I guess.

865
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: Hey, uh eh, but I went to small school too.

866
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: My whole school kindergarten through twelfth grade with six hundred people.

867
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty small, but yours a had to be

868
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: that size. Yeah, ours was high school was one hundred kids.

869
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: You're smaller than Yeah. Yeah, well how was you like?

870
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: Would you go back? Let me change it up. Would

871
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: you want your son to go to a small school? Absolutely,

872
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: because because oh man, I could go on and on

873
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: and on. Really, people are just good people. The smaller

874
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: the group is. I would definitely agree with that too.

875
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, pac mentality makes people, we mean angry.

876
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: See in politics, Yeah, dude, exactly.

877
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: The the more people fall out into their group, the

878
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: less they are of the person they are, regardless of

879
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: the group, because they feel like they have to maintain

880
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: the identity of what that group. I said, their identity

881
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: needs to be. Oh yeah, the small school that's good.

882
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: What was your school? Like, where's your mascot? We were

883
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: the Eagles, of course you were. Of course you were

884
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: the freaking eagles, t.

885
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: Birds and then the Eagles. When you get the high school.

886
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: Oh you like boy Scouts, Cubs Scouts, boy Scouts, Birds, Wolf.

887
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: Were the slow Yeah that was cub Scout's boy all that.

888
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a Cub Scout. Didn't quite make the

889
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: boy Scouts. Did you make it? Uh? What's the highest

890
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: that you got in the Cub Scout animal? I think

891
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: very high, Tiger. I don't even remember.

892
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: I was trying to get those badges though, and that

893
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: was this point I couldn't get a cookie badge and.

894
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: They're like, that's the girls Scouts and I was like.

895
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: That's the one I wanted. I want to get. I

896
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 2: want the freaking cookie badge.

897
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: Man. What the schools in Wyoming like where you went to?

898
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: Where they were?

899
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: They a long ways away? Like travel a long ways

900
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: for away games?

901
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: Oh dude, yes, I mean over mountain ranges, prairie. That's

902
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: so cliche and awesome and it's kind of brutal yeaheah, yeah,

903
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: that's crazy.

904
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: Did you guys have like area rivalries like your range

905
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: sucks all right, you know your mountains blow?

906
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: Man.

907
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Our rivals were on the other ends of the

908
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: Big Horn Mountains, which is only like an hour away,

909
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: but man, just hated each other. It's like, dude, we

910
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: have the same mountains, and it's like we're in the

911
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: same area. And then you get to be twenty eight

912
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: then friends. Yeah, you're like you grew up together the

913
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: whole time.

914
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

915
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we think about Nashville. I like it, man.

916
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: I think that this is the only urban area that

917
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: I could ever live in. Music being the common language

918
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: really helped me move here and just meet people very

919
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: quickly because you could speak that same language.

920
00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

921
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 5: Man.

922
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could be from la I could be from Wyoming,

923
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: and then we could just jam and talk for hours

924
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: and hours and hours, man. And that's that's another thing

925
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: that's so cool about music, man, is that it brings

926
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: people together. If you're touring a lot, can you write

927
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: a lot? Right? A lot? Yeah? I am not very

928
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: good at that. It's honestly the opposite half of the

929
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: brain in my opinion, Like one is like all eyes

930
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: on me, all eyes on me, let's do this thing.

931
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: Let's make sure that they leave thinking that that was

932
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: the best energy that they've ever had on stage or

933
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: in a room. Whereas writing, it's like, all right now,

934
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: how introspective can I be? Don't want anybody to be

935
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: listening to what I'm doing, you know.

936
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: So just have a couple things. I want to make

937
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: an analogy here and see if you feel the same.

938
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: But for me, you know, I grew up a certain

939
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: way and small town all that. Then I get here

940
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: and there's a long, slow process to me. But I

941
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: had some big success and then things started to go

942
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: really well for me, where I can kind of get

943
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 2: back in touch and remember the things I'm supposed to remember,

944
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: or when I go home, yeah, or when I get

945
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: on the road and get to actually talk to real people,

946
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: uh huh, because in this town real people. Yeah, And

947
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: so going on the road is good for me. I

948
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: get tired, but going on.

949
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: The road and just hanging out with like people that come.

950
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: To shows or going home, because like, that's who I am.

951
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's easy not to forget who you are,

952
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: but for it to kind of slip out of your

953
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: creative conscious and I'm often reminded of that, and I

954
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: do that purposefully.

955
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: Do you ever go home for that reason. Yes, absolutely, man.

956
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: I try and go home for a couple weeks out

957
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: of the year, and every single time I do that,

958
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: I have just this am your AMMO of titles, ideas, lines,

959
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: melodies that then I come back to Nashville and write them,

960
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, And you.

961
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: Keep a listening to your phone of all your stuff,

962
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: just constantly updated. Yes, like song titles that you've never

963
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: gotten to but you still think one day.

964
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: I get them in there all the time. And every

965
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: time that I have a write the coming up scheduled

966
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: that I always go through it is like, all right, now,

967
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: which one of these would work the best with these

968
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: writers here? You know.

969
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: I have a list of like jokes and like funny

970
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: songs that I want to write, and some of them

971
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: I just and I'm going to ask you if you've

972
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: ever had this happen to you. But sometimes I just don't.

973
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm not on the right path to create it, whatever

974
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: the correct version is. Sometimes I write a joke and

975
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not it. I write a song and

976
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I don't want to write this whole

977
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 2: song and do it this way because it doesn't feel

978
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: like I feel like this way can be done better.

979
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: And this is so stupid compared to your stuff, because

980
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: you're as good.

981
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: But like, I have this idea and I've tried to

982
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: write it a couple of times, and I wanted to

983
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: write the hardest sing along song of all time, meaning

984
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: people love to sing friends in the place this sweet Caroline.

985
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: I want to write the hardest sing along song of

986
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: all time.

987
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: See that's hard concept.

988
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: Well, the song is called Plural Murals, and I've tried

989
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: it and it's not I get it to a place

990
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: where I'm like, that's only C minus and it could

991
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: be the stupidest idea ever and it may never come

992
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: to something. But Plural Rural Murals the hardest sing along

993
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: song of all time. It feels too important to me

994
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 2: for it not to be.

995
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: Perfect, just perfect.

996
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: Do you ever have a song like that where you've tried,

997
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: you know, you've tinkered with it, But I can't you

998
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: stop laughing on that song you need You just can't

999
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 2: invest it into that because it's not right yet.

1000
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, I have a tune called more than Me

1001
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: Had I put out on White Buffalo, and it took

1002
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: me two and a half years to write it just

1003
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: because it wasn't right the first time we did it,

1004
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't right the next time that we did it,

1005
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: and then I was like, all right, I'm gonna take

1006
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: it home and I'm just gonna work on it for

1007
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: like a year, And that's what I did, and then

1008
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: I brought it back into the right. We got ninety

1009
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: percent of it done, I was like, all I still

1010
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: not quite there, and then like another few months went

1011
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: by and then finally we get it done. Man. But

1012
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: there's no rush man, I mean, you know, there's no

1013
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: rush on art. And there's tunes that I've wrote in

1014
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: an hour that have more streams than that one that

1015
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: took me two and a half years. Right, So it's

1016
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: like there's no right or wrong way to do it.

1017
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: I've heard that song. It's no plural rural murals. It's

1018
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: pretty good plural rural murle exact sing that mirals. It's

1019
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: possible murals, murals, murals, murals, mural, but we have a

1020
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: different rural murals murals murals, no murals, But I haven't.

1021
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: I mean, no, no, you may be saying it right, Mike,

1022
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: how do you.

1023
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Say it murals murals?

1024
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but he's not saying like you say it

1025
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: how am I saying it?

1026
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: Murals like you're saying it, murals, murals you're not saying.

1027
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: See and then everybody be like, Okay, well, like a

1028
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: couple of minutes left here. But I'm a fan, Like

1029
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: Gator said earlier, I'm a fan because anytime you do

1030
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: something that other people aren't doing, they're either going to

1031
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: be resentful of it not understand it, so then they

1032
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: don't get it angry at it because they didn't do it.

1033
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: Like there are all of these reasons you shouldn't do

1034
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: what you do. Yeah, absolutely, and for someone like you

1035
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: to just go, this is what it is. And I'm

1036
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: not only making it like I'm here, I'm fighting for it.

1037
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 2: I'm putting all my time and effort. I'm not changing.

1038
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can.

1039
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: You could have easily altered your whole essence thirty two

1040
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: percent and still been the cowboy but a little a

1041
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: little less western edgy. Yeah yeah, and had a lot

1042
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: more mainstream success way earlier. I firmly believe you could

1043
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: have done that, but you didn't. And what's awesome is whenever,

1044
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: because it's it's freaking killing right now, but whenever it

1045
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: pops so hard, you're going to own that space.

1046
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Thank you, and that's what's going to be great about it, man.

1047
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't think that that artistically,

1048
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: I could throw myself out there and know that it's

1049
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: not me, because if it did blow up, then I'd

1050
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: just be acting for the rest of my life.

1051
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: It's like, that's the life. You get a lot of money,

1052
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: Why would you want to do that? I agree, I

1053
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: don't either, but I'm never gonnat a.

1054
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: Lot of money. Yeah.

1055
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: I think it's so cool what you're doing, how you're

1056
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: doing it. Thank you, and that you'd still keep doing

1057
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: it if you knew you were never gonna be oh yeah,

1058
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: oh yeah, entertainer of the.

1059
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: Year, you'd still be like, this is what I'm gonna do.

1060
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: If I'm living at home, I'm gonna do it absolutely.

1061
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: That's also where the best freedom and best joy is.

1062
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: Too, which makes the best art. And that's really all

1063
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: I want to do, man, is make music that I

1064
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: want to listen to.

1065
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I guess I don't tell jokes or stories

1066
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear. I often get annoyed with myself.

1067
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: Look good for you for making music, you like. I

1068
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: think I would hate me. I'd be on the radio,

1069
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: or i'd be he's playing that theater.

1070
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to that, but good for you. That's

1071
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: I need to do. Then do stuff that I would like, Yeah, dude,

1072
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: of course, dude, I will say I saw your last

1073
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: too much access.

1074
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah with the volleyball or the yes, oh god, yeah, do.

1075
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: The volleyball that I mean, that's the content that you

1076
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: would want to watch.

1077
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I look like an idiot, and I like

1078
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 2: to see the other people look like idiots.

1079
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Volleyball is hard, dude. I mean, no matter how athletic

1080
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: you are, I suck at volleyball. Then I can jump high.

1081
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: But dude, like, I just I am absolutely horrible at volleyball.

1082
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: So to watch you like.

1083
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: Like an alley like, I'm appreciate you. Okay, it's enough.

1084
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about it. I'm talking about that. I

1085
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: feel like I get picked on you and junior high.

1086
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: You have social anxiety at all?

1087
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: No, no, man, like, I'm always I'm a very chill guy.

1088
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: Man Like I could be the dude in the corner

1089
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: that's just having a personal conversation, or I could be

1090
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: your right hand man, or I could go on stage

1091
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: and be the artist.

1092
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: What a wife if you're just sitting around, how do

1093
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 2: you feel?

1094
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: Then I have a hard time just like hanging out

1095
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: and not doing anything. And I think I get that

1096
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: from my mom because she's like hardcore cowgirl, like needs

1097
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: to do like everything always.

1098
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: But if you're like relax at home, yeah, butt naked, Yeah,

1099
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: everything's so relaxed. You have something on TV, like everything's

1100
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 2: just perfect. Does your speech impediment still show up?

1101
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: No, No, it's weird. But around my parents it's like

1102
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: really bad. Why that is? I don't know. I don't know.

1103
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: And even with you here, like I thought that it

1104
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: was going to be kind of bad because I was like,

1105
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: oh man, this is a big interview. I'm nervous. But

1106
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: it's been like probably eighty five percent fluid. It's been

1107
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: pretty awesome.

1108
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so it's like I'm pretty warm amazing though,

1109
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: just warm up and you know, just be cool.

1110
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: So I just never know, man, And.

1111
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 2: You're true most people most people douchebags. Yeah, we're deally to.

1112
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: That's not okay. Here's what I want to say. We

1113
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: talked about long lift cowgirls before you came in. Uh,

1114
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: why Buffalo is out now? And you guys follow Ian

1115
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: at Ian munsick and I'll say this, You'll see him

1116
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: and you'll go that dude might shank me.

1117
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: And he might. But I'm telling you, like, I like you.

1118
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: I would go play basketball with you guys. Oh, come on.

1119
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: The only reason I haven't gotten to play so far

1120
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: has been you. And I was like, I don't like

1121
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: that guy. But now I'm gonna go. I'm terribly afraid.

1122
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: I do a lot of physical stuff now with shows

1123
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: and stuff. I'm terribly afraid I'm gonna tear the now,

1124
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get hurt. Yeah, you see, Kane built his

1125
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: Kane Brown built his new his gym.

1126
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: It's insane.

1127
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so awesome and like this in the dumbest

1128
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: most awesome way, like because Caine likes the ball.

1129
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he was like, screw it, I'll just

1130
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: build it. It's awesome. Is it like an indoor court

1131
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: with life like like the like the hardwood floor and

1132
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, spot too much.

1133
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: But yep, dream he's got like a gym, you know,

1134
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: Like that's amazing. It's amazing, all right, look and I

1135
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 2: enjoyed you man. Yeah you're freaking awesome. Tell your wife.

1136
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: I Hello, I don't know her either. But again, I

1137
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: see you guys on social media, and I figure that

1138
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: of the two, I would like her way more than you,

1139
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: And to be honest, I still feel that way, but

1140
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: I like you a lot too. All Right, buddy, all right,

1141
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: you guys follow Ian at Ian Munsick Long Lived Cowgirls

1142
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: the song you guys, go stream White Buffalo, and if

1143
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: he comes to town with Laney or himself.

1144
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: Go check out a show. It's what you're doing to me?

1145
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: Is I just like it when somebody knows who they

1146
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: are and they go after it even though it's not easy.

1147
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: Thank you, all right there, he is

1148
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 5: In Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.