1 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Loot from us. 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough. You're 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: listening to Software Radio, Special Operations, military mails and straight 4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: talk with the guys in the community. 5 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? This is rad with SOFTWAREP Radio. 6 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: I have the great privilege today to bring you a 7 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: special guest, one that's going to help us kind of 8 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: maybe Saturday straight. You know, we try to have this 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: alarm clock next to our bed and we always hit 10 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: snooze and I'm hoping that my guest, Alden Mills, former 11 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Seal Team member Seal Team two, been around the teams, 12 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's got some background in discipline and leadership 13 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: and he's written a couple of books. Unstoppable Teams is 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: out and Beyond Unstoppable? Is that right? Am I close 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: to that? Alden? 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: Welcome the Unstoppable rad But we're right there. That's what 17 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: we're going to be doing today. 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: That's right, and so welcome to the show. Welcome to 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: the soft Rep family. I'm happy to have you here. Now, Alden, 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about a little bit of the beginnings of 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: your crawl walk run face to the military. How old 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: were you when you enlisted into the it's the Navy, right, 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: it was the Navy. 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: But you know, first I want to just tell you 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: it's such a privilege to beyond Soft Rep. And I 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: think of it as talking about with my brothers and 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: all my sisters out there. I so missed the camaraderie 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: in the brotherhood. So thank you for having me on. 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for reaching out and wanting to share 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: your message. I always do like a guest Alden that 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: wants to be on Soft Rep. You know, it's something 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: that is there's something in the listeners there. They're here, 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: you're here, I'm here, and we all want to be here. 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: And so this conversation today is going to talk about 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: what you've had to deal with your ups and downs 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: getting to where you're at today. And thanks again for 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: the nice words on being on the show. I'll be 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: sure to send my friend Brandon Webb, who runs the podcast, 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: What's up for you? Okay, just do that. I will. 40 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: I have to say his name right now so we hear. 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: How old were you though when you joined? 42 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: Well, you know, my path was going to the Naval Academy, 43 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: and I will tell you that path got set a 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: little earlier in life, and it got set through my 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: mom really I was twelve at the time and was 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: visiting this pulmonologist doctor in central Massachusetts. He looked like 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: a older Danny de Vito, with a bald scalp of white, 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: wispy hair and thick coke bottled glasses, and he constantly 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: looked like he was smelling sour milk. When he delivered 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: the news to me and my mom that this boy 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: he's born was smaller than average sizelog and he's an asthmatic. 52 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: He needs to lead a less active lifestyle. I suggest 53 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: the game of chess, and that was a pivotal moment 54 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: for me. You know, Mom set me out in the 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: lobby while she wanted to talk to the good doctor. 56 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: When I came out, I was having a full pity 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: party for myself. I remember making puddles of tears on 58 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: the floor and she looked at me and she said, 59 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: what's wrong with you? I'm like, Mom, Chess, I am 60 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 3: terrible at checkers. How am I going to learn that game? 61 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: And she said, you know, she had these long, sharp 62 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: French cuticle nails and she dig them into my forearm 63 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: and she said, you listen to me. Nobody defines what 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: you can or can't do. But you now, I'll get 65 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: you the medicine, but you got to decide what you 66 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: can do. And of course that wasn't the day I 67 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: wanted to be a Navy Sealed right. I just wanted 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: to play a game. I wanted to a basketball team, 69 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: and I made it, and then scored against my own team, 70 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: and then scored against my own team in hockey and 71 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: lacrosse and soccer. Was terrible at ball sports. But the 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: confidence I got to keep going, which was what I 73 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: hope everybody today gets, is to understand they're hell of 74 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: a lot more powerful than they might realize, especially if 75 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 3: they're stuck, which we all get stuck. Is you kept 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: looking for something to be great at and I found 77 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 3: this sport called rowing, or I could sit on my 78 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: butt and go backwards for long periods of time. And 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: rowan took me to the academy, and then the academy 80 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: and rowing took me to Seal Team. So when I 81 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: asked the question, you know, how did you come to 82 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: Seal Team, I first would say, well, you know, it 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: started with being told I didn't do something at twelve. 84 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell somebody they can't do something, period, right, let 85 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: alone a determined twelve year old who wants to be 86 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: on a team, play sports, run the soccer field of 87 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: this friends, play lacrosse, scoring himself in hockey. 88 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: You know, four different sports. 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: Rat I heard it. I'm hearing it. 90 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: That was not a confidence building event for me. 91 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, hopefully you got overscoring on yourself as you 92 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: transitioned into rowing and. 93 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: You know, but you know, I finally found one that fit, 94 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: you know, I will. I'll tell you one other component. 95 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: I was still kind of contemplating between Marine Corps. I 96 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: liked the Marine Corps and the Force Recoon and I 97 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: was preparing for service selection and you really have to 98 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: start your junior year. And this senior Navy seal walks 99 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: up to your walks up to me, and he had 100 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: metals up over his shoulder practically the way I remember him. 101 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: And he had this big, unregulated mustache. And he's like, hey, mos, 102 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: you're thinking about trying out for suit team. And I 103 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: was like, well, yeah, I'm thinking about it. What do 104 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: you guys do? He goes, well, you've ever been bullied before? 105 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 3: And my mom and my grandmother used to keep my 106 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: hair really long, right, and it was curly, and I 107 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: had a nickname called Shirley Temple. 108 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, you actually got curly hair and it's probably reddish, right, 109 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: and so like. 110 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: You oh no, back then it was blonde. 111 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: Really oh yeah, and oh yeah. 112 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 3: I stood for a moment and I was like, yeah, 113 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, and he hold his hand up. 114 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: He was like, I didn't want to hear about it. 115 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: That's what we do, you know, we go around the 116 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: world and we knock back bullies. If you're interested in that, 117 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: come try out. It was a really interesting correlation that 118 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: he made there, you know, and that kind of sold me, like, 119 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to go try this thing called 120 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: Seal Team and it was a perfect extension for rowing. 121 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: Eight people in a boat, eight paddlers and a zodiac 122 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: and a lot of water, which I love. 123 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: How's that transition of the zodiac from a rowing you know, 124 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean those are very you knownjole, very like you know, 125 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: tapered and this surf with this losable or that was. 126 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: The only transition. There was the kind of visual thing 127 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: of we're a boat and a paddle right right. It 128 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: was tall pain because those boats they wanted you to 129 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: flip in the sea in the surf zone. But the 130 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: concept was the same. The concept is there's no Rambo 131 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: in Sealed Team or any of the special operations. You know, 132 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: I happen to know Seal Team, but the Green Beret 133 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: and Delta and Air Force CCT and Para Rescue. I mean, 134 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: they're all exceptional groups, and they're all about the team 135 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: and the idea that each and every one of us 136 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: is so much stronger when we support the team than 137 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: it is trying to be the superhero. And you know, 138 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: I actually I often give people like I wrote about 139 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: it in the second book about you know the cartoon 140 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: series super Friends, Right, I love the super Friends who 141 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: didn't like the super Friends, and the super Friends had 142 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: this dynamic duo called the Wonder Twins. Right. It was 143 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: a brother and sister. They looked like they might have 144 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: been some kind of fraternal twins, and and they had 145 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: these rings. And when they would say, you know, wonder 146 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: Twins activate and together they were far more powerful than 147 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: when they were apart. Right, they were a forced multiplying effect. 148 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: And I use that as an analogy for what Sealed 149 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: Team does. The Army does it. You know, we call 150 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: it a swim buddy. Army calls it a battle buddy. 151 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: But the idea that you are never going through anything 152 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: in the military life without a wonder twin and when 153 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: right and so and by the way, you know, a 154 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 3: lot of times people are like, yeah, you know, I 155 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: I can carry all the AMMO myself, or I can 156 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: carry the sixty guns. That's not the real point of 157 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: the swim buddy. They can help you carry the load, 158 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: but the biggest loads are the emotional loads. And we're imperfect. 159 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: We can't do it all ourselves. We're not built to 160 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: do it all ourselves. We're built to work with others. 161 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: And that piece of it has really kind of led 162 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: me down the path of helping people be unstoppable, in 163 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: part by helping them find their swim buddies and getting 164 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: after it together and letting them know they're not alone. 165 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: The best way to achieve things is by building out 166 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: your own goal teams and getting after it together. 167 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: You know, that makes a good point. Now, when you 168 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: go through the academy and the Naval Academy, and that's Annapolis, right, yes, 169 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: is that one? That's the actual case. So you go 170 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: through Annapolis, you get commissioned, you go out to the teams, right, 171 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: and so are you going out as an ensign is 172 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: that the first commission that is given. Okay in the Navy, 173 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: bear with me. I'm just making sure second and then 174 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: and then everybody else for the movie. Okay, So and respectfully. 175 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: Now you get to the teams and you're supposed to 176 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: be the guy in charge, right, yeah, and that you've 177 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: been trained to be the guy in charge. You've been 178 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, you're you've been curated and talk to and 179 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: here you are at your chance. You got a guy 180 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: that's been on the team for about three years already. 181 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: How are you feeling, you know, with his already tenure 182 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: and he might be like, you know, a petty officer 183 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: and here you are as an ensign, you know, and 184 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: this has to go down and you're coming on to 185 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: the teams. Did that ever have any how do you 186 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,119 Speaker 1: make that that cohesion? 187 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you're talking about probably the single 188 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: most important leadership bridge you must cross, and they are 189 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: watching you like a hawk when you first show up 190 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: at that team, give your show up to that team. 191 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: You're still just a Seal candidate at that point, and 192 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: what they're watching for is for you to realize that 193 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: your ego is not your ego when it comes to 194 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: this because I don't know anything. Yeah, okay, so I 195 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: went through four years of a boat school in Annapolis, 196 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: but that didn't teach me how to lead a platoon 197 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: that has three, four or five seven deployments of experience 198 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: individually underneath them. What they're looking for is to see 199 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: if you're going to ask for their input and ask 200 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: for their help. And you get evaluated on that very 201 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: early on. And if they don't think you're going to 202 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: listen and seek advice, they know you're a danger and 203 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: they'll either put you in the penalty box until you 204 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: learn to listen or do you won't succeed there. And 205 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: so your example is I would say that's a that's 206 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: a kind example of a petty officer with three years. 207 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: We're talking about cheap petty officers with seventeen years seven 208 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: deployments under their belt, Lots of petty officers with three, five, 209 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: seven years of experience in multiple deployments. Here I am. 210 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: I outrank them all as good old ns and mills, 211 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: but I don't know anything. And being able to listen 212 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: and take their input is a critical component to your 213 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: success of leading any kind of a team. 214 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: Critical listening is super important, right and so hearing what 215 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: these teammates have to say may save your life. And 216 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: so if you go in there with just like this 217 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: whole mantra of like, Okay, I'm in charge, which you are, essentially, right, 218 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: and that's the respect. I think you have to salute 219 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: the rank or salute the man, but at the end 220 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: of the day, you have to salute, right, So there 221 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: is that aspect of the situation. But coming in and 222 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: then just listening saying, hey, you know, you might want 223 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: to hold your paddle like this. I know you came 224 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: from rowing like this, sir, but on the Viking ship 225 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: the oars go like this. Yeah right, just put those 226 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: two things together, Boston, you got it. Okay, I believe it. 227 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right. And then you guys 228 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: kind of like a salute free zone. So some Green 229 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Beret you know here in Utah at nineteenth they have 230 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: signs posted around their area says no salute and first 231 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: name basis. 232 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're off in you're a platoon, 233 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: that's exactly. It's it's just when you're out in front 234 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: of you know, the senior administrative formal position, you know, 235 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: these are your brothers, these are people who are willing 236 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: to jump on the grenade for you and you for them, 237 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: And if they don't feel that way, you're not going 238 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: to make the transition from a group of individuals to 239 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: a high performing, unstoppable team. 240 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: So when you're constantly sped up for the team and 241 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: you have been doing pt every day and you're constantly 242 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, working out scenarios and you're forecasting their lives okay, 243 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: which they don't know about, and they're just like, hey, 244 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: whatever Boss tells us, we're gonna go do, okay, whatever 245 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: he says, whatever it is, right, we're gonna go fight 246 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: for And in six months from now, you're plotting the 247 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: course to like, you know, do rapid deployments. And then, 248 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, how does someone go from staying so actively 249 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: with your brain, right, training that muscle inside of your 250 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: head and writing out all of these scenarios to transitioning 251 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: out of the military and into a civilian world, Right, 252 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: how do you what was your process for that? If 253 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: you don't mind, well, I have to tell you it 254 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: was hard. 255 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be brutally honest with you. 256 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want it. 257 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: That was a major transition. There isn't a day that 258 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: goes by even today that I don't think about it. 259 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: And when I first made the transition to leave seal team, 260 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: which was very hard. You know, they stand you up 261 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: in front of the entire team and tell you why 262 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: you're leaving. I choked up on that one. That was 263 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: the hardest decision in my life at that point. And 264 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: then I show up a couple of days later at 265 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: business school and I'm just thinking to myself, what have 266 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: I done? Because I can't relate with you know, all 267 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: these civilians who are getting visibly upset because they didn't 268 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: get a hundred on their exam. I got a ninety 269 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: two and I'm sitting here with a twenty nine, Like 270 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: what what are you guys talking about? Like, no one's 271 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: shooting at you. You don't have to worry about your 272 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: parachute not opening or running out of air underwater and 273 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: they're looking at you like what, No, you don't understand. 274 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,479 Speaker 3: I don't get bees, Okay, whatever. 275 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: Sees get degrees, amen, brother. 276 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: I will tell you that the great transition for me 277 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: I had to take the self discipline that I learned 278 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: to create on my my own chart, my own map. 279 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: A chart is nothing more than a map at sea, 280 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: and that was around creating goals that I decided that 281 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: were important to me, and that I was going to 282 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: create a schedule like a mission plan every day, talk 283 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: through some contingencies and work through you know, just training 284 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: myself and then finding some people that could help me, 285 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: because I knew as a civilian there were a whole 286 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: bunch of things I sucked at. There were only a 287 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: couple of things I was good at. And that's, by 288 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: the way, how it works in Seal Team two. You 289 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: have to look for everybody who's better that you to 290 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: do things. And that goal setting process became my north 291 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: star because when you really go through the goal setting process, 292 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: you really start to understand, Okay, what are you passionate about? 293 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: What is purposeful for you? And linking those two And 294 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: in my head, I think of it like rowing my 295 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: own boat. And when I'm rowing my own boat, I'm 296 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 3: the captain of my own boat. Right, And I have 297 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: these two oars in the water, and one I call 298 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: passion and one I call purpose. If only one is 299 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 3: in the water, I start going in circles. Right, I 300 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: can be super purposeful about something but have no passion 301 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 3: for it. Right, You're not going to go straight not 302 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: going to make a lot of progress. I can be 303 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: super passionate about something, but no, there's not a lot 304 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: of purpose to it. Well, then the other word is 305 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 3: still just going to put me in there. But when 306 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: I put both of those together, it's like you've also 307 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: put a compass in your boat, and you can start 308 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: to get going and forward progress together. I don't care 309 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: which one comes first, and don't anybody here get wrapped 310 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 3: around the axle. There are books out there that will 311 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 3: say you got to have purpose first, then find the 312 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: passion in it. No, you can be very passionate about 313 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: something and then find purpose, and you can be purposeful 314 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: about something and find passion. But you need both of those, 315 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: and then you need the consistency just chipping away, taking 316 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: a stroke every day, not a big stroke, not lots 317 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 3: of strokes, you know, fifteen thirty minutes a day of 318 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: chipping away. It's something new that eventually will change your 319 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: direction in life. 320 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: I love the both paddles in the water analogy. You know, 321 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: it makes sense. The purpose, you know, the passion. I 322 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: talk with people, whether it's veterans, at like almost like 323 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: a conference where we're getting together as friends and talking 324 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: about business ideas, you know, helping others, you know, entrepreneurs, 325 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: and you know we're all on that same boat at 326 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: that same time together. Right, whether you're solo and you'll 327 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: have one oar of the water, or you're with a 328 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: whole group of people trying to make this teamwork, you 329 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: have to have all your ores in the water. I 330 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: really love that, and so I'm going to use that. 331 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: I just want you to know, I want you to 332 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: use it. I want every listener to use it. I 333 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: want to understand that when those twours are in the water, 334 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: then the compass in your boat we all have. The 335 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: compass is what you decide you want, when you want it, 336 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: and why you want it right, and that compass will 337 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: start to give you the north star of your direction, 338 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: you know. And it takes a long time. 339 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: If you think about going from where you are right 340 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: now the place that you want to be, it could 341 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: be overwhelmingly exhausting to go, oh my god, the place 342 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: that I want to be is so far past the horizon, 343 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: I can't see it. And you know, you hear people saying, well, 344 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: you got to see you to believe that's not right? 345 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: You got to flip it. 346 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: I think you're right. 347 00:19:54,200 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, to see it right, right, got to believe it, 348 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: and the believing process can be really hard at times, 349 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: which is why, you know, which is why I hope 350 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: people are tuning into this show with us and. 351 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: Realizing like, oh, yeah, I got this and I'm not 352 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: alone at doing it, because it can be really frustrating 353 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: taking a lot of strokes and thinking you're not making 354 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: any forward progress, which brings me to the last piece 355 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: of the boat analogy. Your fuel to keep going is progress. 356 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 3: Once you start to realize like, hey, maybe your progress 357 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: is I took a stroke every day this week. That's 358 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: all I did, and that stroke is one little daily 359 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: action towards my goal. That fuel will propel you to 360 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: do the next one. And that's all we need. We 361 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: just need enough fuel to take the next action. 362 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: That's right. I completely love that. It's purpose, passion and 363 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: progression and progress. Excuse me, yeah, I wrote I wrote 364 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: my bad handwriting special ed. Let's try to write it 365 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: down as you're saying it, because it's three p's right. 366 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of peas proper planning prevents or performance, 367 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: you know, passion, purpose, progress, Yeah, seriously, because you can 368 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: have one ore in the water and just go in 369 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: circles or better yet, I think if you're just in 370 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: the open water and the current is just pulling you 371 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: and you're swimming against the current or whatnot, you feel 372 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: like your strokes after strokes, you're not getting there. You know, 373 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: maybe you're caught in a riptide. But if you just 374 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,239 Speaker 1: keep you know, calm, maybe swim to the side, you know, 375 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: get out of that situation. Just keep moving and gaining ground. 376 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Every inch matters towards your passion. And I think what 377 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: you're saying to me as a listener, because I'm listening 378 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: to you as well as our other listeners, is on 379 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: the horizon. You have this belief that there is land, 380 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: and you have to just keep going towards the direction 381 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: that land is at so you can finally step on land. 382 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: Otherwise I don't think anybody ever be an explorer. 383 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so, look, rad we can spend a 384 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: lot of time on this topic. This is a very 385 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: important topic. When you're in your harbor of your comfort zone, 386 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: the place you are right now where everybody is tuning 387 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 3: in and listening to us, they could be like, yeah, 388 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 3: I'm in the harbor of familiarity. I've been here for 389 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 3: a while. I want something more. I want to go 390 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: beyond the horizon to this new island that's got beautiful 391 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: palm trees. You know, we're making the metaphor here. It's 392 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: our pot of gold, our new place. You can't see that. 393 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: You have to believe in that beforehand. And then there 394 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 3: is this leadership transition that occurs, and I use this 395 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: leadership transition. It's a very important leadership transition. It's when 396 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 3: we leave site of land and that is that place 397 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: between the known and the unknown, when we finally leave 398 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: our harbor of familiarity, which I will call mediocrity over time, 399 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: because we're not growing, we're not really pushing ourselves anymore. 400 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: And then when we decide, okay, we're going to go explore. 401 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: We're going to go try this new thing that's out there. 402 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: And now I'm going into a place where it's unfamiliar. 403 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I have never done these things. These 404 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: are new things to me. And when you get there, 405 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: that's the transition between managing your day in leading yourself, 406 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: and leading yourself means you're taking risk. You don't know 407 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: the outcome, you don't know, you very well could fail, 408 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: right and it's at that point that you start living 409 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: again because there's a risk involvement. You need courage. You 410 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: have fear. Fear is there for a reason, that's okay, 411 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: But you have enough courage to fight back to fear 412 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: to take the extra strokes to go for something that 413 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: other people may say you're crazy. And I don't want 414 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 3: you to listen to them. I want you to just 415 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: build your swim buddies, your battle buddies, your gold buds 416 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: that come together where you go rad I believe in 417 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 3: you get on that radio station, people want to hear 418 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: from you. 419 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: You go do that, chase it go after, just keep pursuing, 420 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: pursuing it brokes right. That's right. Such a good conversation 421 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: that we're having. And and positivity goes a long way, 422 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: especially you know, if you see, if you can just 423 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: see a fraction of success, it's because you've dealt with 424 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: a lot of failure, right, You've had to deal with 425 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: things that didn't go right to see that it went 426 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: right right, I mean, damn it, Spock. I'm a doctor, 427 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: you know. It's like all these things you want me 428 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: to do, but I'm good at this thing. I'm a doctor, 429 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not. I'm not going down to fix 430 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: the nuclear reactor, Spock Man, let me fix. I'm the 431 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: doctor Spock But I mean. 432 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: But you love it. You hit on something very port 433 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: and red. And it's why I like being associated with 434 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: the word unstoppable. You see, to be unstoppable means you 435 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: have to have been stopped. You have to have gotten stuck. 436 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: It's not like you wake up every day you go, 437 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm not just unstoppable, and I'm not gonna have any problems. 438 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna see your life like no, no, no, You 439 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: need the problem. You need to get stuck because the 440 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 3: getting stuck gives you the strength and the skill to 441 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: build forward progress for yourself. We need the friction of 442 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: being stuck. We need the friction of the struggle. Otherwise 443 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: we have no friction. It's like cars spinning on ice 444 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: with the wheel right. A car goes forward because there's 445 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: friction between the tire and the asphalt. You struggling against 446 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: the wind and the waves and the water's currents pushing 447 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: you back on our metaphorical leaving the harbor of mediocrity. 448 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: Need it. It can't be calm, smooth seas then your 449 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 3: goal is not big enough. It's not challenging enough. The 450 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: goal challenge is the gift that makes us better and 451 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: propels us to that new location. 452 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: That's right. And it just kind of goes back to 453 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: our analogy of boats and you and the surf with 454 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: a zodiac coming from rowing aspect, and I think that 455 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: they're teaching you to in combat, you're going to be 456 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: getting shot at while you have to get out of 457 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: that surf. You have so much more at risk other 458 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: than just training to get out of that surf, out 459 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: of those breaks, because you know, you're supposed to be sea, 460 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: air and land. You're supposed to be able to, you know, 461 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: drop in, swim under the water, or bust out in 462 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: a boat like you know, like Navy Seals, the movie 463 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: with Charlie Sheen, Like we watch it on the movies. Okay, 464 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: get to the boat, Just get me to the I 465 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: can smell it. It's a mile away north, you know, 466 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: and so you know, but they're being chased in the movie. 467 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, they're being rocket launched at in the movie. 468 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: They have to kill Grammar, take the car to get 469 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: to the objective. In the movie. They have to do 470 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: all these things in the movie. And that's kind of 471 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: what you know, we see. But that training that you're 472 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: doing in that surf zone, it's there to get you 473 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: through that breakpoint, that pain point of like you can 474 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: do this. 475 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: It's to push you across that prison that you have 476 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: already limited in your head. 477 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: We all have it. 478 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 3: We have these limiting beliefs and they come to us 479 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: all the time. And our job is to lead ourselves first, 480 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 3: that's the single most important leadership responsibility we have. And 481 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: then how we lead ourselves well, then that influences how 482 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: we lead others and how we build a team. So 483 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: you want to become a better team leader, become a 484 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: better leader of yourself. 485 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: It's true. Now there's a difference between being a teammate 486 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: and a bro on the team. I would imagine, like 487 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, you could be. Let's put myself in position 488 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: where you're the commander of a team. You're in your office, 489 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: you're working and you know you have to take something 490 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: out of the typewriter and crumble let up and throw 491 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: it away in the trash can and it falls out 492 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: because there's other trash in your trash can. Because you're 493 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: so busy, you're trying to coordinate, you know, the operation. 494 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: You're trying to make sure there's food for the operation. 495 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: The rides are there, you're talking to commanders who are 496 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: like whatever, and you're doing all that work okay, and 497 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: then you have to type up the orders and you 498 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: got to like throw one away and it's like trash 499 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: can's puls You're like, hey, bro, Hey, come over here, Jones. 500 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: Bro Jones, come here, Bud, and we take my trash out. 501 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, no problem, bro, Sir. You're like thanks bro, right, 502 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, Bro. So he goes down the 503 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: chain of command. You know, bro, other guy, bro, Bro, 504 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: take his trash out. Man, take the boss's trash out. Bro. 505 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: So you got these bros on the team that finally 506 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: the trash gets taken out, but you had to say 507 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: something about that, right, And then there's this guy. Let's 508 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: say you. You come out and you're like, oh, you know, 509 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: you see me working, I'm typing and I throw it 510 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: away and you're like, oh, it didn't fall over. You 511 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: just took the trash without being asked. Came in, I 512 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: saw that my trash can was full, and I didn't have. 513 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 5: To say anything to you. And did you want to 514 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 5: take point on the mission Bill is that what you want? 515 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 5: You want point, don't you want to see it coming first? 516 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 5: You can drop huh, that's what you want. I'm going 517 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 5: to give that to you. But he don't know that. 518 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: And what you in your example, Yes, the gentleman that 519 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: decides to take the initiative and look at the situation 520 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: and go LT's trash cans overflying, I'm going to help 521 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: him out. So he's you know, what's that emotion that 522 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: drives him to do that? 523 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: I would say, well, I'm I want to say it's love. 524 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: It's love for you know, boom. I just want to 525 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: say that, it's what is in my heart on that 526 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: and so. 527 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: Stop right there, you're good, right, and love the basis 528 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: of love is care. Care squared is what I call love. 529 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 3: But you're right. At the end of the day, the 530 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: guy cares so much about making sure LT can stay 531 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: focused on writing the order. He's like, dude, I got 532 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: your back, don't even think about it, right, And that 533 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: idea that someone else has your back is what makes 534 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: a seal team, a Green Beret Delta Force so unstoppable 535 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: because they care about each other so much that they 536 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: love each other the right way. That doesn't have to 537 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: be unique in the military. It can be done when 538 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: you pilled out your goal teams and what you're going after. 539 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: And when you asked me about how did I transition 540 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: from the military to civilian, I just gave you thirty 541 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: years of transitional work. Right now, that's hard. Okay, maybe 542 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: it's not thirty years because I got out a twenty 543 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: years old here at the right old age of fifty four, 544 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: but you know, to that and finding people that will 545 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: reciprocate and in the beginning as a leader, and remember 546 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: we're all leaders, every single one of us. Everybody that's listening. 547 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: You're a leader. 548 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: You're a leader because you have to lead yourself. You 549 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: lead yourself to turn this podcast in and tune in 550 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: your rad and all that. But you're a leader. Now 551 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: how many people will follow you, that's a different conversation. 552 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: But when you're leading in that regard, you have to 553 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 3: take the first step of loving others, of caring for others. 554 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: Right the love I'm talking about, it's not some sexual love. 555 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: It's about caring enough for somebody else and like, hey, 556 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: I got you back, I want you to succeed. I'm 557 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: going to be here to help you. And that is 558 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: a boomerang effect, and it can take a while. I 559 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: call it the care boomerang. And in the beginning, because 560 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: people get burned, right, they'll immediately go, dude, that guy 561 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: is just a brown noser. He was taking out LT's 562 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: like he's just trying to get the better job or 563 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: something like that. Right, They're immediately thinking of some negative reason. 564 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: But then after a while they're like, no, he just 565 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: cares about the team and he wants to make everything 566 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: as good as possible. And that jaded perspective over time 567 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: because you're being very consistent about caring for every aspect. 568 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: Because he didn't just take the trash out for LT. 569 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: He took the trash out for them because they were 570 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: cleaning the weapons and he already cleaned his weapons. He's like, dude, 571 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 3: I got it, don't worry about it. I'm here for 572 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 3: each of you. And when they start to see that, 573 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: then they start to realize, like, well, I want to 574 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: give back. I'm going to care too. It's like the 575 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: simplest version I can say is like you walk into 576 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: a grocery store and you hold the door open for 577 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: somebody behind you and they turn around and go, oh, well, 578 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: thank you, and then they hold the door open for 579 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: somebody else. 580 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: Contagious. 581 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: It's contagious in the challenge for the leader is you 582 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: have to take the first step. So you've got to 583 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: be grageous enough to care enough. And when that process 584 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: happens over and over and over again, the caring and 585 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: this sounds a little trite, it leads to daring. People 586 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: will start to dare because they're not worried about looking 587 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: in the rearview mirror for themselves. They're not being selfish 588 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: for themselves, They're being self less. 589 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I love it. I bring a 590 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: lot of what we're talking about to my company. My 591 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: organization has a lot like what I just talked about. 592 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 1: That analogy of the trash has been talked to with 593 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: my staff. You know, we just I just say, hey, 594 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: you know I heard this analogy one time. Let me 595 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: bring it up to you and they're like, oh, and 596 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: I tell them the story. I'm like, are you the 597 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: bro on the team or are you the teammate on 598 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: the team. And it just sets the tone, you know, 599 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: of how we expect everybody to work in what we 600 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: do here and to make success. And same with our wargames. 601 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: It has the same conversation is what goes into my team. 602 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: My personal friends that we have been friends for fourteen 603 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: fifteen years on this team, and we still rally up 604 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: and go out and fight every other Saturday. It's the 605 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: best thing ever. And everybody puts their own gas in 606 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: their vehicle, everybody takes their own ammunition out to the 607 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: play the airsoft games. Nobody's really paying anything except their 608 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: own passionate commitment to being on the team. Yeah, no 609 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: one forces them to be there. Nobody's paying them to 610 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: be there, but there they are. Why because we're like, hey, 611 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna run dynamics today. Who's down. Well, I know 612 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Rad's going to be there, So I got to show 613 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: up and Rad's going to always be there. Because everybody 614 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: was wondering how did you keep attendance of everybody rat 615 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 1: over fifteen years of running your team, I've been asked 616 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: that as like it is all mental. They're like, how 617 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: I said, I showed up. I took a group photo 618 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: every single game of the entire team. It was just 619 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: a thing I did. And if you're not in the photo, 620 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: then you're not in the photo. It's simple. So for 621 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: fifteen years we ran with saying, and I learned things 622 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: as I grew running the games. It would range anywhere 623 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: from like thirty two guys on the daily, men and 624 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: women on my team specifically bringing out like maybe another 625 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: one hundred to fight with, and so we would just 626 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: separate into two different factions, Alpha versus Bravo. I would 627 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: set up my teams as radio telephone operator individuals on 628 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: those teams, so we're always talking to each other on 629 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: both sides. But they're running the teams and fighting and 630 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: everybody doesn't realize the puppets are happening, right, So it's 631 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: just how it goes. It's just camaraderie, teamwork, rubbing shoulders 632 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: next to somebody, knowing that you're there for them, having 633 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: their back. Even in airsoft war games, having my back 634 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: means a lot. Man, we got guys were sneaking around 635 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: like rubber knives, trying to take my life. Okay, I've 636 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: had my tent, I've had my tent opened up. Z 637 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: thought was my security going out take a whiz. It 638 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: was an enemy coming in and he's like, hey yo, 639 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: Cat and rad I'm on what He's like, You're dead? 640 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, so getting killed at three 641 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: am four am when you should be not being killed 642 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: at four am and your eyes are closed. That even 643 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: in at wargame bro, I just I sat on the 644 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: edge of my cot for like probably fifteen minutes on 645 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: the radio saying I thought we were indexed to my 646 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: counterparts on the other teams, like, nah, man, it was 647 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: four am index not three am rad. I was like, man, 648 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: I got killed. I was like, I'm dead in my tent. 649 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: In my tent. So you know, teamwork goes a long way, right, 650 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: and it goes to and then everybody has a good 651 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: time and everybody's all high fiving. So to my listener 652 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: out there, you know, I think that if you stay 653 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: positive with what you believe in, and you stay focused 654 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: and stay the course on your passion again, it will 655 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: bring purpose right, and then you see the progress of 656 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: your passionate purpose. You're gonna keep going after that. It's 657 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: like finding little gold flakes when I'm gold panning, man, boy, 658 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: don't let me find goldflakes. Come digging holes. Can't even 659 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: fix my fence, but I can dig some holes in 660 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: the river for some gold. You know, you can catch 661 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: me in the river up in Utah mountains panning for gold. 662 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: That's awesome. R. 663 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro, my wife, my kids, we all sit in 664 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: the water and just go to town on a camping trips. Bro, 665 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: it's just a there's a river. Make it profitable, productive. 666 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: My kids were entrepreneurs. 667 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 6: And by the way, that's another important piece. That's called hope. Yeah, 668 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 6: and faith. A lot of curse words too. You're like, 669 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 6: is this pyright PI write? What's pyrite? 670 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: Dad? Fools goats, fools gold son, It's fool's gold. Go 671 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: up to northern California, it's everywhere fools gold. My wife 672 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: just wants to move there because it's so shiny and 673 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: gold in the dirt. I'm like, that's just fools gold. 674 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: I've done that with my boys. 675 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. It's true. As much as I want 676 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: it to be real gold, I gotta stay on it, 677 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: and I got to be you know, I got to 678 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: make progress on real gold. I can't just sit back 679 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: with fake gold. It is not going to do nothing 680 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: for me. So, you know, just to bring that back 681 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: into our metaphors here, it's like, you know, I'm looking 682 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: for the vein man. I'll take it chip away out, I. 683 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 3: Will tell you, kind of bringing it circle as I've 684 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: done this transition, and I talk to you about how 685 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 3: important goals are. You know, It's why I created that 686 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: software app called goal Bud is to help people make 687 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 3: a goal, build a goal team, and create and report 688 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 3: goal commitments. Those are the three big things. And if 689 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: you can do that on a daily basis, you are 690 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 3: going to find your goal. You WI will continue. But 691 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: the challenge is creating the discipline in the first half. 692 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: And you know, it's that free app, goal Bud that 693 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 3: allows people to put in your goal and put it 694 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 3: out there to your own goal team, invite them to 695 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 3: become your buds, and then tell them, hey, this is 696 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do. I'm going to report to you 697 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 3: five times a week on panning for my goal, and 698 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 3: I'm going to do this every single day. And when 699 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,479 Speaker 3: people do that, they start to see the progress because 700 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 3: they'll start to see, hey, I I did three weeks 701 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 3: of this already, like we're making progress, and that gets 702 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: them fired up to go across your metaphorical horizon. 703 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And Goldbud will have that put into 704 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: the comments, you know, and our description on softwap dot com. 705 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: So if any of you happen to not you know, 706 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: catch it while we're talking. You can always click on 707 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: it when it's going to be posted. It's called goal 708 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: Bud and that's g O A L right bud. Yeah, 709 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: just like yeah, just like that. And so you know 710 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna help set a goal for you and and 711 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: make it an attainable goal. Right if you set yourself up, 712 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you can have an attainable goal for today, 713 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna make my bed and brush my teeth 714 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: and those are goals. I don't want to be a 715 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: slob anymore and put my clothes away. Okay, start with 716 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: yourself and then you can make some what you think 717 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: is unattainable as a goal, in my opinion, is not right. 718 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm always chasing the actoring, auditioning vibe. You know, 719 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: I look at TV as a job market. Some people 720 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: look at it as just an entertainment platform. It's like, 721 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: what do you chase it? After it's available? You know 722 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: you can make your way. You want to go to concerts, 723 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: Why don't you work behind the scenes at a concert? 724 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: You know you could be a stage hand and learn 725 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: the ins and outs of being a concert promoter from 726 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: the inside and still see the show and get paid 727 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: to do it while you're learning these experiences. A lot 728 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: of my friends that do go to the military. Once 729 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: they go, I say, hey, when you come back and 730 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: you come back to the airsoft war games, you're going 731 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: to bring war college with you. You know, you'll have 732 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: an understanding of why we have a rank on our 733 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: team or why we do things in the way we 734 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: do a little bit like you know that is in 735 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: the military. You know, it just seems to work. You know, 736 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: running a twelve man team, you know, it just seems 737 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: to work. Whether it's baseball or football or hockey. You 738 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: know that camaraderie that there's a captain of the team. 739 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: They go out and flip the coin for you know, 740 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: receiving or kickoff, or they're flipping it for home or away. 741 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: In baseball, you know, there's always somebody that's taking the 742 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: captain's position, and then there's the team, and everybody respects 743 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: the captain and lets them go out to the mound 744 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: and they might bring one another the catcher with them. Hey, 745 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: you know, just two into danger. Okay, Hey, come with 746 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: me out to the mountd you we're gonna flip the coin. 747 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: I want a number with me, just not myself so 748 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: that's why when you see people going out into the 749 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: center to flip the coin, there's multiple you know, football 750 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: players from both sides standing around their team captains while 751 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: the flipped the coin. Yep, yep, right, I mean it's 752 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: the same way I'm going. And when you went through 753 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: the Seals, did your career take you over to any 754 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: deployments into you know, the War on Terror that we 755 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: were dealing with for the last twenty five years. 756 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was in ninety one to ninety eight 757 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: and then I did a break in service. Was two 758 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 3: thousand and two thousand and five the time period that 759 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 3: I was in, we went to Bosnia and then I 760 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 3: spent a lot of time in classified combat mini submersibles 761 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 3: doing stuff underwater. 762 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: Wow. With pulmonary at twelve to living in the underwater 763 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: classified submersible of some sort, it was awesome. Holy cow, 764 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: how cool sy gold. 765 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 7: You don't see much, especially in the middle of night, 766 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 7: happy harbors, and I mean literally crappy harbors. 767 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: Oh bro, Like yeah, and so if visibility sucks, it sucks. 768 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: You can't even see this, right, no, yeah. 769 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: But like whatever device is telling you to go whatever direction, 770 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: doesn't tell you that there's something in front of you, 771 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: per se, you don't know if it does. 772 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 3: Does there's some sonar that you get to use, so. 773 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: Like you don't crash into the piers post. 774 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like old Channel ninety nine. You know 775 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 3: today ninety nine is probably like CNBC, right something, But 776 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 3: you know, in the old days just kind of staticky 777 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 3: static and you'd have to figure out right angles and things. 778 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: It's gotten ter and air bubbles i'd imagine are happening 779 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: right at the same time. 780 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 3: You have a very special pack. It looks like a 781 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 3: Ghostbuster pack. Interesting, big huge backpack that allows you to 782 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 3: have no bubbles. 783 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, so deep. 784 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 3: It's it's it's a very we used to call it. 785 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: We're strapping on a Mercedes S Class onto each of us. 786 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: It sounds very very cool to have that for the 787 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: job that you were dealing with. It was awesome, I 788 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: mean yeah, and it probably gives you like a you 789 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: can you can tell me yes or no. It gives 790 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: you a lot of breathing capability right for a long 791 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: period of time. Does Okay, that's cool, That's way cool. Yeah, 792 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued, and I've got to get off this question 793 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna start going down that road all wait 794 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: for the video game. 795 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 3: You people can look at that system up or the 796 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 3: whole system. It's called the sealed delivery vehicle. 797 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: And delivery vehicle. 798 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 3: Those are classified combat mini subersibles. You won't find anything 799 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: on the inside, but you can see the outside of 800 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 3: them mm hmm. 801 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: And uh it's where it's sometimes it's open right like 802 00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: you might just be in the water. 803 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, what are these are flooding subs? Yeah? 804 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: And is that sense of cluster of I mean, you're 805 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: you're trained to have this scuba gear on. I guess 806 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: you're just good to go, right. 807 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 3: You know, that's actually very intuitive you've come up with 808 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 3: that because I didn't even think about that. And first 809 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 3: when I started the training, You're you get claustrophobic in 810 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 3: the beginning because you're you know, the face plate of 811 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 3: the sonars right here, and you're you're in a tight space. 812 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 3: And I'm a big guy, and you know, six foot 813 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 3: three two and fifty pounds and you're wedged in that thing. 814 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: Once you slide those doors shut, it's a small little space. 815 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to be in there for a long time. 816 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And so I would imagine and almost like, 817 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 1: you know, have you ever seen Abyss the movie A bits? Yeah, 818 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: of course, like how they have to endul. 819 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 3: They put the fluid fluid in the lung. 820 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: You're not doing no, I don't think not yet. 821 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, though that was actually a real scenario that 822 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 3: they were trying to play with. 823 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I know, right, And it's that's why 824 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying not yet. There's somebody out there like, hey, 825 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: send me to Mars for five years. I'll go, I'll 826 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: do it. I'll test let me test it. Yeah, someone 827 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: wants to be Captain America, Go ahead and inject you 828 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. Now. We talked about Goldbud. We talked about 829 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: your books, which we'll also have noted down in our description. 830 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: You know, after I think it's Chris, Chris, my guy, Chris, 831 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: thanks for writing all these remark I know they listen 832 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: to the podcast and then they bring it all together 833 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: and it's like I wrote it, and so I just 834 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: got to give them a shout out. Yeah, dude, great team. 835 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 3: You know, the biggest shout out I can offer it 836 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 3: everybody is Goldbud. You know, it's an old map, it's 837 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 3: free and we want people. I'm on this kind of 838 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 3: Don Quixote mission to help one of the world achieve 839 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 3: a goal. And you know, you start achieving goals, you 840 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 3: get this cascading series of confidences to dream up bigger goals. 841 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 3: You just have to understand you're way more powerful than 842 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 3: you realize. And as I often tell people, unstoppable is 843 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 3: a choice, and you get to make it every morning 844 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,959 Speaker 3: when you get up and multiple times throughout the day. 845 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 3: You just need that compass of what you're going to 846 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 3: go be unstoppable for. And that's what goalbud can be 847 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: for you. 848 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I have it actually up on my phone right now, 849 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: right here. It's telling me where to download it, you know, 850 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: Apple Droid wherever it's at. Goalbud the three steps one 851 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: set of goal put in writing. You aren't serious about 852 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: achieving your goal without taking this first step. I like that. 853 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: This is straight up fresh. I'm just reading it to 854 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: you right. Number two, Yeah, build your goals team. Create 855 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: a private social network for each goal. Who will you 856 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: invite to your team one trust, a confident, or an 857 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: entire community. Bring them all, That's what it says. Make commitments, 858 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: tell your team what you will do. You are twice 859 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: as likely to succeed with a goal bud team. Your 860 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: buds have got your back, you know. And it's true, 861 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: Commander Mills. Okay, as if I may that, you know 862 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: you're doing a good thing. It's what I want to say, 863 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: is true. I want to say that you're putting out 864 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: a positive boomerang of karma, all right, And just to 865 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: piggyback on Taylor Swift there with karma, I just want 866 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: to let you know that. Okay, thank you. So I 867 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: like the same boomerang analogy. I'm going to have the 868 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,720 Speaker 1: app on my phone. I'm going to try to implement 869 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: it and try something new because I don't use it. 870 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: I'll try to use it and implement it and try 871 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: to make a goal and see if I can get 872 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: active with it. I'd rather have someone tell me. I'd 873 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 1: rather have a sounding board that I can possibly hit 874 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: my ideas off of. If I don't have one, what 875 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: if I'm all by myself. I live in a room 876 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: and you know, it's downstairs and the upstairs neighbor I 877 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: don't even know them. I don't know who to talk to. Well, 878 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 1: that looks like that's a sounding board of people who 879 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,919 Speaker 1: can give you, you know, advice or whatnot? Right? 880 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 3: Yes, and by the way, your Airsoft teams teams get 881 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 3: them using it, saying hey together, just the mere fact 882 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 3: those are your best buds. They've already been practicing having 883 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 3: your back and say you guys, you know I want 884 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: to lose thirty pounds, i want to go climb a mountain. 885 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of writing a book. You know, I want 886 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 3: to make a career change. And I'm thinking I want 887 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 3: to do what Rad's doing. Rad, would you be my bud? 888 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 3: And yeah, okay, let's start, like there's no time, don't 889 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 3: push it off. You know, I was having lunch with 890 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 3: somebody the other day and he's like, well, I want 891 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 3: to write a book, and I'm like, well, fantastic. What 892 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 3: do you put the table contents together? Well, no, but 893 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 3: I'm almost ninety percent there. I'm like ninety percent to 894 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 3: what ninety putting the table contents together? I'm like, just 895 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 3: sit down and think about what the introduction is going 896 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 3: to be. Then let's go through the chapter one, chapter two. 897 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 3: In chapter two, just write the but do a little 898 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 3: every day whatever that thing is. The challenge becomes. People 899 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 3: will have these little obstacles called livinging beliefs. In their 900 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 3: head that they you know, and I had it. My 901 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: first book took me ten years to write because I 902 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,919 Speaker 3: had this thought in my head, this narrative that kept 903 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 3: coming back from an English teacher I had in ninth 904 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,919 Speaker 3: grade said, Mills, you suck at English. Don't ever try 905 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 3: and think you can go to ap English. I never 906 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 3: want to ap English right and mean, it was like 907 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 3: the doctor telling me that I played chess. I'll have that. 908 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,720 Speaker 3: But guess what, that guy actually gave me the greatest 909 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 3: gift because eventually you work hard enough, you become a 910 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 3: lot better at English. And by the way, he never 911 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 3: wrote a book in his life, and he's telling me 912 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 3: what I can or can't do. 913 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: Right, he spent someone else's money. 914 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you find those buds and you get your airsoft 915 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 3: teams and put them together and be like, hey, it's great, 916 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 3: we're coming every other week together. Let's come together every 917 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 3: single day through our own goal teams. Get on gold. 918 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 3: Let's go do things better together because we'll be even 919 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 3: better battlefield. 920 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: It's true, I get hit up in all sorts of 921 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: different angles on you know, it'd be cool to have 922 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: it centrally located like here it is. You know, we 923 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: can all just reach each other right there, that kind 924 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: of attitude and so and it's it's Goldbud dot org 925 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: for my listener out there. There's an org behind it 926 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 1: if you want. 927 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 3: To check it out, or the website, but. 928 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,800 Speaker 1: Right for the website, but it has on there also 929 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: the app. You can get your there too, Yeah, right right, 930 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: Just to let you know, the dot org means a lot, 931 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I just want to put 932 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: that out there. 933 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 3: No, it's just about and you hit the nail on 934 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 3: the head. You know. This is about going out and 935 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 3: making an indent in the universe. It's about making something 936 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 3: that is going to get a lot of people to 937 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 3: help other people achieve things. And when we can infect 938 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 3: people to do things to help other people, but then 939 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 3: we stand a chance of making a difference together. 940 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: It's true. I completely agree. I am. I'm so happy 941 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: that you were on my show today. This has been 942 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: a lightning And I say this is you should be 943 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,879 Speaker 1: on the show periodically as well, not just this one time. 944 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: We should have you on and bring out other you know, 945 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 1: excerpts or talk about other instances and just help motivate 946 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: and give us that affirmations that we do need it was. 947 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: It's very positive to hear from you. And I know 948 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: there's so many stories that we could get wrapped up 949 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: in and us becoming meeting today and becoming acquaintances and 950 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: becoming friendly and you know there's more of this, and 951 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: I just want to say you're always welcome to be 952 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: on the show. 953 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 3: Well, rad well then let's do it. We'll sortally and 954 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 3: we'll talk about how to succeed together. 955 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 1: Then let's do that and we'll make that happen. That's 956 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: no problem. Good okay, yeah, one hundred percent. And to 957 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: my listener out there, if you're considering chasing your dreams, 958 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: keep considering and doing it. Okay, just go after it. 959 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I do this every time I do 960 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: these podcasts each and every time I have to upload them, 961 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: I have to work on them, I have to put 962 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: them together. This is a love of the game. I 963 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: promise you that and talking to my guests are the 964 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 1: gold that I pan out of the situation, okay, because 965 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: I get to learn and grow and glean off of you. 966 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: So thank you for being my golden nugget today. I 967 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: appreciate that both heys. 968 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 3: Thank you for going after your dream because if you hadn't, 969 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 3: we wouldn't have been mating together today. 970 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: It's true. And thanks to Brandon and Soft Rep for 971 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: believing in my dreams and saying, rad we want you 972 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know you want me? Sure 973 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: here we are years later. Okay. And with that said, 974 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: I have a merch store. It's actually soft Reps. It 975 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: supports the show, it really does. If you like what 976 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: you hear and you like my guests and you like 977 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,479 Speaker 1: what we're doing, go buy a shirt, buy a mug, 978 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 1: do it help support it. And you never know, Brandon 979 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 1: Webb might sign a book and send it in one 980 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: of your packages. He does it all the time. So 981 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: there you go, and give Brandy half of that too, Rob. 982 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: I will give Brandon your I'll text him this afternoon 983 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: and say it was a great show. And with that 984 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: on behalf of my guest who I've had for a 985 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: solid hour on this. I want to say thanks to 986 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: Alden Mills, commander, entrepreneur, human being on this earth that 987 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: walks with a positive spirit. Thank you for being on 988 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: soft Reap today. 989 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 3: Thank you brother. I send you my love. 990 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: And I appreciate you. Okay, and we'll talk soon and 991 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: we'll do this on a quarterly basis. To my listener, 992 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: you can count on it all right With that, this 993 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: is RAD saying thanks for watching and joining us on 994 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 1: softwarep peace. 995 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 2: You've been listening to Self rep Radio