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Speaker 1: The Cardinals fault twenty seven and nothing to the Browns

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland Sunday, their first shutout since twenty eighteen. Welcome

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Speaker 1: into Morning Scramble, presented by Verizon from the Sea Peek

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Speaker 1: Studios alongside Jody Jackson and Zach Gershman.

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Speaker 2: I'm Danny Siak. It was ugly, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals offense couldn't generate anything, but in the defense in

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Speaker 1: a difficult position. Jody, with a shutout that looked as

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Speaker 1: bad as this one did, how can this team learn

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Speaker 1: from it without crumbling confidence wise?

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Speaker 3: Well, Danny, I mean, they're gonna have to learn from it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure the feeling was during the game and

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Speaker 3: immediately after the game of a real lack of confidence

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Speaker 3: and a real disappointment and frustration. But they have to

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Speaker 3: quickly get past that. And you know, for me, I

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Speaker 3: have to admit I was wrong about this game. I

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Speaker 3: went in thinking optimistically maybe that this I knew how

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Speaker 3: good this defense was, but there were a few teams

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Speaker 3: threat which would set up play action, and that just

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Speaker 4: None of that happened.

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Speaker 3: It was a horrible game for the offensive line, and

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Speaker 3: that really set the tone for this offense, not really

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Speaker 5: I think when it comes down to how do you

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Speaker 5: next one, it's that this one was really rough.

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Speaker 6: It can't get much worse.

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Speaker 5: Than this right now, and you have that You have

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Speaker 5: all right, this one was rough, let's sweep under the rug,

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Speaker 5: focus onto the next week, focus on to Atlanta. I mean,

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Speaker 5: this was really challenging, and I think when it comes

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Speaker 5: less about what the Cardinals plan is. They did, they

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Speaker 5: it's a rough showing for the rookie in his first outing.

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Speaker 5: You definitely didn't want to see that from him, But

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for answering the question, because obviously, Dandy

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Speaker 3: I blew right through it. I was just always had

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Speaker 3: But you're right, you have to throw it out. And

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Speaker 3: the good news is and going back to weapons, you

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Speaker 3: that elevates the unit tremendously.

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Speaker 4: Danny going into.

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Speaker 2: This absolutely Cardinals might be ready to sweep this one

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Speaker 2: under the rug.

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Speaker 4: We're not.

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Speaker 1: We're just getting started here. In morning scramble, Arizona's offense

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Speaker 1: finished with just fifty eight total net yards, averaging one

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Speaker 1: three turnovers. Rookie Clayton Tune got his first start as

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Speaker 1: where do you begin the evaluation on Tune after.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of different challenges with that offensive

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Speaker 5: So it's it's a little bit unfair in a sense

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Speaker 5: The record might not show for the Atlanta Falcons, but

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Speaker 4: The last few weeks. He didn't look very good in

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Speaker 5: And with some of your top guys out there that

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Speaker 6: It's definitely it's not helping right now.

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Speaker 1: Humphries and Hernandez both leaving the game with leg injuries

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Speaker 1: late in the game Sunday, of Arizona's fourteen possessions, only

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Speaker 1: That's because the offense wasn't putting them any positions to

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Speaker 5: I think the bright spot is that I think there's

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Speaker 5: Incredible job back there so far in these previous couple games.

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Speaker 5: I believe it was only one hundred and thirteen total

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Speaker 5: definitely a big I know that that number, especially when

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Speaker 5: you compared to the Cardinals offense, that's very drastically But

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Speaker 5: I think you got to look at a guy like

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Speaker 5: job for him. Dante Still's week after we continues to

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Speaker 5: I think the bright spot was something that Jalen Thompson

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Speaker 5: sure when you look back on the film, You're gonna

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Speaker 5: that could have potentially happened. I mean the deflection of

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately, there's plays like that that.

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Speaker 5: If the ball was you know, if Dante threw his

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Speaker 5: But I think that the bright spot is realizing that

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Speaker 3: The I mean, look, this defense, I give them a

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Speaker 4: You can go on and on.

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Speaker 3: They're keeping this team in a game that they really

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Speaker 4: Even being in offensively.

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Speaker 3: And I understand the final score they weren't in at

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Speaker 3: twenty seven to nothing, but when you guys think about

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Speaker 3: gave it up three times. This game could have been

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Speaker 3: forty to nothing. How was it not the defense? The

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Speaker 3: I love about this defense is when they give up

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Speaker 4: They didn't give up a ton on the ground.

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Speaker 3: I kind of called this group like that every day

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Speaker 3: I was listening to Paul Calvic in the postgame radio

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Speaker 4: It's not rocket science.

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Speaker 3: This happens to a lot of teams throughout the year

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Speaker 4: And this game is a perfect example.

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Speaker 3: And you know, they've all taken the stance that look

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Speaker 3: and they certainly don't need to talk about it to

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Speaker 3: its own animal, and hopefully we don't see it again.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we don't see anything like this again. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: this defense, Hey, hang in there, guys, keep bringing it lunch,

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Speaker 4: I really love that about this team.

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Speaker 3: And I think if they can just get some kind

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Speaker 1: This is a better look of what this defense can

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Speaker 5: It's that close out speed that he has that he

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Speaker 5: As I mentioned prior, there are still things that you

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Speaker 5: in some cases, Johnathangannon's going to say that one point

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they played well enough to win.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 3: Pregame when I was I had my rose colored glasses on. Guys,

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Speaker 4: But again, I like the effort.

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Speaker 6: I think a little bit also has to go down

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Speaker 5: The Cleveland Browns had the ball for third thirty six

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Speaker 5: And I know Kevin Strong and Jonathan I Better said

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Speaker 1: You can see the culture of the fact that this team,

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Speaker 4: How did I get the turning point this week?

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Speaker 5: Guys?

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Speaker 4: Lucky lucky me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was tough when you're down and you don't

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Speaker 3: little bit of a shred of confidence for two, a

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Speaker 3: shred of confidence to the wide receivers for hey, you know,

442
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Speaker 3: we can make a play, maybe we can do this again.

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Speaker 4: And it just it just was unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: I mean, those things happen and when you're making plays,

445
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Speaker 3: you just brush it off.

446
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Speaker 4: But when you're not making any plays, I just think.

447
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Speaker 3: It became really hard. And so that's the best I

448
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Speaker 3: could do for my turning point this week.

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Speaker 5: Guys, out of Clayton's out of Clayton's twenty pass attempts,

450
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Speaker 5: only about two or three of them went above ten

451
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Speaker 5: plus yards. In terms of the attempt of just trying

452
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Speaker 5: to go downfield, that would.

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Speaker 6: Have been one of them.

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Speaker 5: And I think having that early on in the game,

455
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Speaker 5: with it being the second quarter, before you're going into half,

456
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Speaker 5: you're trying to just get something going on the offensive

457
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Speaker 5: side of the ball. So while I personally disagree with

458
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Speaker 5: the call, I'm not the one wearing the stripes.

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Speaker 6: I'm just here wearing the black Cardinals pull up.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they can find me, So we'll.

461
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Speaker 2: Find out, right.

462
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Speaker 6: Jony's not again. Letter from the end. Joney's out again.

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Speaker 5: A letter from the NFL like a official association now.

464
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Speaker 5: But I think in a lot of cases like it

465
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Speaker 5: wasn't a very unfortunate penalty, but referees are going to

466
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Speaker 5: make mistakes. There was a call in DJ Humphreys a

467
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Speaker 5: holding penalty of Miles Garrett where he also did not

468
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Speaker 5: really impact Miles Garrett. And we could talk all day

469
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Speaker 5: long about questionable officiating calls, but that's not the purpose

470
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Speaker 5: of this because, as Jonathan Gannon said postgame, it doesn't

471
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Speaker 5: matter the call happened, and you got to.

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Speaker 6: Just make the most of it. You gotta do what

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Speaker 6: you're able to do.

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Speaker 5: But I think in terms of it being the turning point,

475
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Speaker 5: it's unfortunate because you had some momentum, there was.

476
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Speaker 6: A glimmer of hope.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we got a big time play and unfortunate was

478
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Speaker 5: taken off the board.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals finished with forty penalty yards.

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Speaker 1: Here's a question for the two of you, because we

481
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Speaker 1: know that kicker Matt Prater has that leg, he has

482
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Speaker 1: that power. The Cardinals are struggling to get to midfield, Zach.

483
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Speaker 1: Was there any surprise that they didn't put Prader out

484
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Speaker 1: there to try and get some points on the board.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Matt Prater's got a leg, but I don't

486
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Speaker 5: think he's got a sixty five plus yard leg every

487
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Speaker 5: single drive essentially. I mean, there were so many cases

488
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Speaker 5: where the Cardinals were not able to get downfield in

489
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Speaker 5: if you were pushing that fifty yard line, a little

490
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Speaker 5: bit more fifty to fifty five plus, then I think,

491
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Speaker 5: you know, you should be able to give it a

492
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Speaker 5: shot a little bit. So I think with the direction

493
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Speaker 5: that the game was going, when you're down and you

494
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Speaker 5: need to put points on the board, yes three points

495
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 5: is good, but when you need to just you need

496
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Speaker 5: to start chipping away a little bit more at the score.

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Speaker 5: That's why I would say that the field goal was

498
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Speaker 5: not in the game plan in that case, But I

499
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Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't even a conversation because

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Speaker 5: Matt Prayer does have the ability to make those.

501
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Speaker 6: Big time kicks. We've seen it so far this year.

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Speaker 5: He's one of the NFL's best when it comes to putting,

503
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Speaker 5: like he's in the top. I believe it's now seventeen.

504
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 5: He's on the NFL career all time pointless. So he's

505
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Speaker 5: one of the best that the game has ever had

506
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Speaker 5: to offer. But I think in a lot of cases

507
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Speaker 5: with this game, it did not seem to be going

508
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Speaker 5: that way.

509
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Speaker 3: And you have the rare good weather right so, but

510
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Speaker 3: it's still weather, and I feel like a lot of

511
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Speaker 3: times those decisions it's like if it's not a dome,

512
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Speaker 3: if it's not a zero condition type of environment.

513
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Speaker 4: For whatever reason, they don't try that.

514
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Speaker 3: But I think both the leg of Prater and Blake Gilligan,

515
00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: who kicked over four hundred and sixty yards worth of punts. Unfortunately,

516
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Speaker 3: and I'm not even being funny here on being real,

517
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: you know, that was the most the ball was moving

518
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Speaker 3: yesterday because just the offense couldn't get anything done.

519
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Speaker 5: But Blake did a great job of switching the field.

520
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 5: A lot of cases, I believe had two of his

521
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Speaker 5: nine punts were inside the twenty and when you're so

522
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Speaker 5: far back in your own zone, you're just trying to

523
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Speaker 5: split the field.

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Speaker 6: I think Blake Gilligan did a really good job.

525
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Speaker 5: There were a lot of cases where the Cleveland Browns

526
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Speaker 5: were able to return a couple kicks for you know,

527
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Speaker 5: ten plus yards at some points, and you want to

528
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Speaker 5: be able to limit that. But Joey Blunt has done

529
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Speaker 5: a really good job, you know, doing whatever he can

530
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Speaker 5: of stopping them. I know he had that one celebration

531
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Speaker 5: where he kicked in the door and I think that

532
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Speaker 5: that was, you know, that was a really solid job.

533
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Speaker 5: Blake Gilligan has been really solid so far this year.

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Speaker 5: It's just been that net return that has kind of

535
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Speaker 5: hurt his average.

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Speaker 1: Cardinal Special teams has consistently showed up week after week.

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Speaker 2: Let's pull out the whiteboards for songbirds.

538
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Speaker 1: I felt this one was a little difficult to find

539
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Speaker 1: a song that embodied how I was feeling watching.

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Speaker 2: The game, not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to not really be in my emotions

542
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Speaker 3: after the game, you know. But and I mean again, Danny,

543
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Speaker 3: the drawing is that going to inspire us?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if inspire is the right word. There

545
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Speaker 1: is a drawing that I'm doing right now.

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Speaker 4: All right, Oh it's not good, Okay, you to perform

547
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Speaker 4: here today?

548
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Speaker 2: Drying my best? My best is just not good.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know this song is a journey. It is

551
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Speaker 3: about a journey of like going upward. But I'm going

552
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Speaker 3: with started from the bottom, Drake because I just felt

553
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Speaker 3: like it was rock bottom for the offense at least

554
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Speaker 3: I certainly hope.

555
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Speaker 4: That it is. And uh, it's only gonna go up

556
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Speaker 4: from here, guys.

557
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Speaker 3: And you know, it's just when you're at the bottom,

558
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Speaker 3: it's an awful feeling. It's a lot of frustration. But

559
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Speaker 3: hopefully they can grow and learn from that. And you

560
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Speaker 3: know Clayton Tune, I'm sure he'd love to get another

561
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Speaker 3: chance in there. But if Kyler Murray is playing this week,

562
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Speaker 3: we of course don't know for sure, but you know.

563
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Speaker 4: He'll he'll wait his turn.

564
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Speaker 3: But it felt like the bottom for me, and so

565
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Speaker 3: I don't know where they're going to climb to out

566
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Speaker 3: of this, but I'm confident they're going to come out

567
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: of it a little bit, and you know, certainly this

568
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Speaker 3: week against Atlanta, rise to the occasion and put forth

569
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Speaker 3: a better effort.

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Speaker 5: I think Jody's point there at the end is exactly

571
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Speaker 5: why I decided to go with Onto the Next One

572
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Speaker 5: by jay Z, because I think this is one of

573
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Speaker 5: those games, as I previously mentioned, you kind of want

574
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Speaker 5: to just sweep it under the rug and you want

575
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Speaker 5: to just continue going on and start looking towards Atlanta

576
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Speaker 5: because this was a really rough showing and there was

577
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Speaker 5: a Drake song. I thought of hours in silence, and

578
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Speaker 5: I think in a lot of cases the offense they

579
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 5: were pretty quiet. That's where the silence kind of stems from.

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Speaker 6: But Onto the next.

581
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Speaker 5: One, because this team has kind of gone into it saying,

582
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Speaker 5: you know what, we got to be able to improve.

583
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 5: It might not translate to wins, but we want to see.

584
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Speaker 5: It's a production based business, but the best opportunity is

585
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Speaker 5: for this because it's onto the next one. You have

586
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Speaker 5: Atlanta coming in next, so that's that's why kind of

587
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Speaker 5: selected this song and shout out, jay Z, you're looking.

588
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Speaker 2: Ahead to the next game.

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Speaker 1: I'm still looking behind at this twenty seven to nothing

590
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: shut out. I went with I'm Not Moving by Phil Collins,

591
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Speaker 1: so I drew a little stop sign. This was what

592
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Speaker 1: the offense was doing, which was nothing. They were not

593
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Speaker 1: able to move, the ball wasn't strictly on the rookie

594
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Speaker 1: quarterback Clayton Toon. The blocking was not up to par.

595
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Speaker 1: The receivers were not finding good roots.

596
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Speaker 2: It was just a.

597
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Speaker 1: Collective effort where the Cardinals did not perform. They did

598
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Speaker 1: not look like the team that we have seen now.

599
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Speaker 1: Could that all change this week? As quarterback Kyler Murray's

600
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Speaker 1: deadline is quickly approaching November eighth, this Wednesday, Arizona has

601
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Speaker 1: to decide to either activate Murray to the roster or

602
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Speaker 1: put him on pop for the rest of the year,

603
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Speaker 1: which is not what we're expecting from what we have

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Speaker 1: heard from the coaching staff and seeing Kyler Murray out

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Speaker 1: of practice. Jody, what's it a realistic immediate impact for

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Speaker 1: Murray when he steps back onto the field.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think, you know, he appears to be healthy,

608
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Speaker 3: and we know what kind of tents he has, we

609
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: know the arm that he has, we know the connection

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Speaker 3: that he has with a number of these guys, including

611
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Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown. You know, yeah, of course he's going to

612
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Speaker 3: need some blocking. He's going to need the system to function,

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Speaker 3: and he's a big part of that. And I think

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Speaker 3: the other reason that they've waited this long is not

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Speaker 3: just because you know, they want every indication that he's

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Speaker 3: fully healthy, but I think they're asking him to do again.

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Speaker 3: This is a whole new offense. This is something he

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Speaker 3: hasn't been asked to do before. And so like all

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Speaker 3: the other players on this team that have had training

620
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Speaker 3: camp and all of it, you know, he needs that

621
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Speaker 3: kind of a runway to get here. So I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, and guys, it's how much of a blessing

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Speaker 3: is this from an interest standpoint? And you know, when

624
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Speaker 3: I say interest, I mean we're all locked into whatever's

625
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Speaker 3: going on. But I think for the fans, I mean,

626
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Speaker 3: let's face it, you come off of performance like this,

627
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Speaker 3: Where do you turn what do you look for? Well, frankly,

628
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of excitement now, I think to see

629
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Speaker 3: what Kyler Murray's going to be able to bring and

630
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Speaker 3: to see what this coaching staff can do to help

631
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Speaker 3: him get to another level. So I guess the biggest

632
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: question for me is how much will he use his

633
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: legs coming off the injury. I mean, clearly he'll still

634
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Speaker 3: be able to run. I mean the question is going

635
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Speaker 3: to be, you know, I fully expect with the way

636
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: that guys come back from these injuries now that he

637
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: can still be, you know, as electric as he was before.

638
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 3: I don't know that we necessarily need to see that

639
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: out of the gate day one here, but I know

640
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: one thing about it is that Kyler Murray. You know,

641
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: one thing you can't take away from him is he

642
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: can make plays down the field. And you know, if

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00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: they can get that offensive line back in shape, back

644
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: on the same page and blocking the Atlanta Falcons, you

645
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: know there are some plays to be made downfield. And

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Speaker 3: that's something we really haven't seen consistently at all all

647
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Speaker 3: season long.

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Speaker 6: Kay one's been chopping at the bid as we know,

649
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 6: he said. Jonathan Gannon came to the media last week

650
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Speaker 6: and said, Kyler's.

651
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Speaker 5: Told me a bunch of different times that he's ready

652
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 5: to play, and I know that there's a lot that

653
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 5: goes into it, from a health perspective, from a mental perspective,

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Speaker 5: from a physical perspective.

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Speaker 6: Drew Petsing hit on something that I think would not

656
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Speaker 6: a lot of.

657
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Speaker 5: Fans are considering, and I honestly wasn't even considering it

658
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Speaker 5: until he mentioned it. He said, Kyler's basically going through

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Speaker 5: his own training camp right now, and technically he's on

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Speaker 5: July twenty eighth. When you think about it, and it's

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Speaker 5: not like we're expecting to go into Atlanta and play

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Speaker 5: one series like a preseason game. You expect him to

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Speaker 5: play the full sixty minutes out there if he is

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Speaker 5: going to be activating, if he is going to.

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Speaker 6: Be selected as a starter.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to the realistic expectations, I think the

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Speaker 5: only expectation you could go into this is saying that

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Speaker 5: he's playing in a system where he could excel, and

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Speaker 5: we've seen throughout the year, throughout the beginning half of

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Speaker 5: the season, the way that Josh Dobbs performed and knowing

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Speaker 5: the type of running ability. As we've previously spoken about

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Speaker 5: that Josh Dabes bring to the table. It's not the

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Speaker 5: video game like speed that Kyler Murray brings. But you

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Speaker 5: were able to see that Josh Dobbs did have some

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Speaker 5: success doing it. Knowing that Dobbs had some success, you

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Speaker 5: could only begin to imagine the type of success that

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray's going to have. But we could just only

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Speaker 5: we can only speculate that to actually see it come

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Speaker 5: into play, to see it once is once he does

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Speaker 5: play against Atlanta, If he were to play against Atlanta

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Speaker 5: or any other game throughout the season, that's what you

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Speaker 5: want to be able to see, is that he could

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Speaker 5: jump into that offense and make some magic with his feet.

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Speaker 5: Because Murray magic has been a thing throughout all these

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Speaker 5: previous years. You want to be able to see it

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Speaker 5: come back to State Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 1: From what we've seen in practice, Murray is still zipping it.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't look like he has any sort of hindrance

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Speaker 1: all on that right knee. He's not wearing a knee brace.

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Speaker 1: It would be a huge boost of energy and confidence

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Speaker 1: for this Cardinals team to get their franchise quarterback back.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's also realistic to expect that the

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Speaker 1: parts that are new for this for Kyler Murray first

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Speaker 1: time in his career playing under center, more play action.

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Speaker 1: I would expect that those paired with design runs will

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Speaker 1: probably be limited in his first game back, and then

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Speaker 1: as the week's progress, you can see that kind of

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Speaker 1: be integrated more into the playbook.

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Speaker 5: And I'm comfortable he doesn't have the same sort of

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Speaker 5: relationship that he had with Cliff's. No, that's just point playing,

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Speaker 5: that's the facts behind it. And I think with Drew Petsing, yes,

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Speaker 5: he's been on the sidelines, he's been speaking with Drew Petsing,

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Speaker 5: He's been very hackedic involved in these meetings, which is

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Speaker 5: great and all. But once you are right under Yelda,

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Speaker 5: once you're right under yelderfro Hole and you're you're under center,

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Speaker 5: you got to be able to execute, and that is

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Speaker 5: going to be a little bit of an adjustment, and

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Speaker 5: I hope that fans are a little bit patient with

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Speaker 5: that because this is a first time play caller with

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Speaker 5: a first time play caller with a franchise quarterback at

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Speaker 5: that So they've gone into it expecting and hoping for

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray to return. Now that data is the countdown

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Speaker 5: started to tick and it's starting to get a little bit,

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Speaker 5: actually a lot, a bit closer. So I think that

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Speaker 5: there's going to need to be some patients involved, but

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of hope in the air.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's what we're so excited to see,

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Speaker 3: right because Kyler Murray has run really one type of

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Speaker 3: offense most of his career and so this is a

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Speaker 3: big change. Again, that's why we are where we are

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Speaker 3: and why this has taken so long. I think he

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Speaker 3: was probably physically ready to play sooner than just everything

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Speaker 3: coming together. And you know, going back to Josh Dobbs,

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Speaker 3: I think the one thing we can look at, look,

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Speaker 3: he came in and he did a pretty good job

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Speaker 3: of operating this offense. He wasn't the kind of past

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Speaker 3: thrower or as accurate as we have seen Kyler Murray be,

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Speaker 3: and like you said, Zach, he doesn't have that speed,

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Speaker 3: but he moved pretty well. And so I think if

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Speaker 3: anything you can take from those first few weeks, it's

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Speaker 3: the way that he operated in it. And if you're Kyler,

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Speaker 3: he saw that and he and he saw, you know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what's working, what's not working?

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Speaker 3: Obviously, what happened this past week is is not going

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Speaker 3: to be something to be able to look back and

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Speaker 3: channel anything, right, you would you want to flush that.

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Speaker 4: But I love that it has been. It did work.

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Speaker 3: It worked for the first few weeks, even in the losses,

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Speaker 3: in the win against the Cowboys, and I think that,

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Speaker 3: you know, and then Kyler has his own relationship with

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Speaker 3: Drew Petsting, of course, so I think we're excited to

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Speaker 3: see how it's gonna come again. We're hoping to get

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Speaker 3: that word and you know, hopefully have the guys be

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Speaker 3: able to speak about it, although I guess they could.

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Speaker 3: You know, gamesmanship all comes into play here. You don't

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Speaker 3: know if they're gonna make that announcement. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know how much during the week we're gonna get a

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Speaker 3: sense of that, even from Drew Petsing himself, But we

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Speaker 3: look forward to seeing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it will be asked many times, including a

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Speaker 1: head coach Jonathan Gannon's press conference later this afternoon, which

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Speaker 1: you can check out on Azycardinals dot com. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday, November eighth, deadline for some sort of move

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Speaker 1: to be made with quarterback Kyler Murray. Cardinals are back

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Speaker 1: home next week at State Farm Stadium. Well nay, we'll

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Speaker 1: host the Atlanta Falcons at two to oh five. We'll

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Speaker 1: have more converence on Asycardinals dot Com leading up to

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Speaker 1: that matchup and Morning Term, but we'll be right back

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Speaker 1: here next Monday ten am to talk all about it for.

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Speaker 2: Jodie Jackson and Zach Gershman. I'm Danny Surreig. Thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for joining us here on Morning Scramble