WEBVTT - The Dave Pasch Podcast - Frank Caliendo 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.000 Welcome to another edition of The Day Pash Podcast. We 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.960 are presented by bet MGM, the official sports betting partner 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.720 run the Arizona Cardinals and Hila River Hotels and Casinos. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:19.840 One team left standing, the Arizona Cardinals, the only unbeaten 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.759 remaining in the NFL at four and oz. When the 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.599 Cardinals beat the Titans, I said at the time, that's 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:30.240 a snapshot of what the Cardinals can become. What happened 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.280 on Sunday against the Rams, maybe that's what the Cardinals are. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.479 We're certainly going to find out more this weekend against 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.160 the forty nine Ers. Our guest today is comedian Frank 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.320 Caliendo A J. Green into the end zone for the touchdown. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:51.040 AJ Green just too strong, put it out there, let 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.320 him go get it. That's exactly what A J. Green did. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.840 Frank has a unique bond with the Cardinals. We're gonna 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.760 get into that. But of course we are going to 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:09.800 span the globe of impressions, ranging from Jack Nicholson, Charles Barkley, 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:16.720 Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Bill Walton, and Ron Wolfley. So 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.679 let's get right into it. Here's Frank Kelliendo The Day 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:28.160 Pash Podcast. Basin audience, Are you ready for this? Are 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.800 you ready for the Passpod? What they should have called 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:35.160 It's the Passion Pod, Dave's Passion Project, That's what it 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:39.360 should have been called. I don't even let you start 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:40.920 the intern of your own show. We're off the rails. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.880 We just started, just like when you're broadcast with either 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.160 of your partners. Yes, I know it is this. I 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.200 should have known this was coming. Do they ever do that? 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.120 Do they? I am interviewing you on your podcast? Did 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:55.640 they ever did? The guys? Because they don't. They're professional enough, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.480 not like me, but they'll they don't start being themselves 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.960 until they let you set things? Is that for the 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:05.240 most part? Wolf? Yes? Bill is Bill. I mean you've 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.560 been around Bill, You've known Bill forever. He's liked that 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.200 off the air as well as on. Yeah, but I 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.000 just yeah, because it feels like they don't They don't 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.799 mess with you and make your life difficult until did 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.720 you draw a really short straw? Is that what happened? 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.799 Is that in your broadcast career, they like Pash can 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.320 handle it. I think with Bill definitely. I don't know Wolf, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.680 Like I didn't know what I was getting into with Wolf. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.919 I knew he was unique. Bill. I kind of knew 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.160 because I actually did some NBA games with Bill my 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.480 first year on the NBA in two thousand and six. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.480 He still to this day does not remember that. He claims, 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.320 I don't know was that ESPN. It was at ESPN, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.080 and I don't Bill wasn't like as crazy then. He 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.600 was still different. Like we grew up watching him on 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.400 NBC with Snapper, him and Snapper Jones going at it. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.440 And my friend Tom Tilbert used to work with him. Yeah, 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.440 Tilbert and I worked with Tilbert too the first year 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.040 and Tilbert and Bill were both you know Tilber. It's 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.040 interesting too. Yeah, he's not as wild as Bill. There's 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.480 no end. Yeah, he's like halfway to But the thing 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.640 Tolber Tom Tolbert for peace on about sixty seven, played 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.520 what with Charlotte? Is that? Where he played in college? 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.320 Played the NBA for a while. Yeah, and uh, just 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:18.320 a banger, just a banger down low. I know. I'm 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.640 stuck in Wolf trying to do well to how great 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.400 is that? Bring it back? Enjoy who I am? Figure 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.880 it out? Enjoying this's the Earth rotates on its axis. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:28.880 But he was the one who got me saying, oh 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.200 dead lab shrim Like he would be talking about you know, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.960 John Stockton and Carl Malone could be on the court 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.160 and he'd be like, Howard Eisley is the best player 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.040 on the court right now, Like you're going, what are 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.880 you talking about? Oh? Yeah, what he compares. He'll take 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.480 like just a random player and say that's that's Isaiah Thomas, 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.480 that's Magic Johnson. You know, just I think one time 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.279 he said, Bill he's on the bench right now. I know. Uh, 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.320 Eric Piatkowski he said should replace Jerry West as the 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:02.080 logo that one time. Um, well, I want to get 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.240 Frank end all of this, but I did. Let's start 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.720 because you live. Not only do you live in Arizona, 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.160 I'm not going to give out your address, but you 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.440 live very close to the Cardinals facility and you've been 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.760 connected to the team for a while. So give me 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:19.719 your thoughts first and foremost on four and OZH. I'm cautious. 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.839 I'm cautious with everything because I'm also you know, John Gruden, 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.440 who's a friend of mine, who's become a pretty close 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.800 friend of mine with the Raiders, and uh, you know, 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.000 to tell you what, man, it was a tremendous loss. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.599 Last night, we got a good what you call moral victory. No, 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.000 I was thinking about sending something to Derek Carr because 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.640 I didn't text him any motivation this week. But usually 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.080 I'll send him something like, Derek, do something good this week. Man, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.760 I didn't do something. Does he enjoy that? He's never 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:50.279 texted back, so no, he no, he's great. I actually said, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:51.919 I'm sorry I keep bothering you with this stuff. He's no, 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.719 He's like, no, keep it coming. It's actually working. Yeah. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.240 So that's the reason they were three and oh yeah, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.920 that's what I was saying, and then they lost that. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.480 But Derek are and Gruden. That goes back to it. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.279 I'm just telling you this to talk about how to 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.680 get into the Cardinals thing. But that goes back to 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.920 the first time I ever met or not met John. 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.279 But the first time ever did Gruden makeup with Gruden 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:17.000 was at a quarterback camp in Florida and Derek Carr 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.320 was the QB one that week or whatever, so he 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.359 was It was his birthday too, so we were singing 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:28.360 Happy birthday, man. Blown out the candles for young Derek Carr. Man, 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.080 what a great I did a speaking engagement with Derek 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.599 Carr when he was at Fresno State. Okay, what a 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:41.040 great super see why people following indibly incredibly nice. Yeah, 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:42.880 and people who say he's not a good leader don't 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.000 know anything about him. He's just quiet to the press. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.120 He's just a different time. So as far as with 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.000 the Cardinals, what happened there was there's a broadcaster who 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:57.680 also works NFL Network now, lant Zerline in Houston, and 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:03.000 his dad coached the line here with the Cardinals, Larry Zerline, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.600 and he said, hey, do you want to get you know, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.800 Steve Cime's a fan of yours. And I'd forgotten come 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.560 had gone to see me in North Carolina at a 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.479 place called Charlie Good Nights in Raleigh. And I didn't 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.080 even remember all this, but um, they invited me out 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.200 to come, you know, take a look at the you know, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.240 just hang out for a few minutes or something like that. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.640 And I did, and want you to bring my son whatever. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.360 And then when they were doing what was the Amazon 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.080 show called All or Nothing? And I didn't have a 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.640 ba impression. I had nothing, but I just had a hat. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.599 I got a hat when I got here and I 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.480 threw on a pair of glasses and I just started swearing. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:40.760 So I started was doing Gruden and stuff like that. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.440 He was still in broadcasting at the time. I go 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:43.840 up there. I talked to the team and it's going 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:45.880 pretty well. But then I put it can I swear 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.040 on this or do you bleep it out? Or what 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.599 do you do on your podcast? So, because I don't 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.039 normally swear that much, but I just wanted you to weep. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.719 So I put on the hat, I put on the glasses, 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.920 and because it was BA I just got up there. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.720 I put it on and then looked at the team 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.480 and went, what the for you guys doing out there? Man? 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.800 That was the worst bunch of I've ever seen in 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.400 my entire laugh Get to get to get your heads 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.680 in the game, man. And I didn't even really have 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:13.760 that much of the oppression. That just the look and 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.560 Larry stood up, Fitzgerald and everybody was like a standing ovation. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.800 They went crazy, you know, And since then, you know, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.080 you never know when something like that's gonna, you know, 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.960 work or not. It's tough when you're going to people 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.800 think that because you do comedy and they see you 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.400 do it on TV or they hear you on a 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.200 podcast or something that they think you could just do 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.080 it anywhere. You go into an NFL locker room, that's 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.200 totally different. You're not part of the group, you're not 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.400 part of the team. It's a little bit easier when 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.160 you're inside and you've been through the trenches and you've 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.880 done this kind of stuff and there's camaraderie. Right If 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.880 somebody comes back to speak to the team, they're like, Oh, 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.440 this guy was in the league for ten years. You know, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.200 he's won a couple of Super Bowls. He knows what 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.840 it takes it, you know. I mean, I'm nussed. You know, 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.520 I'm some goofy little court jester come in there. So 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.200 when you can do something that connects with the guys, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:01.920 you know, when I do that with the Raiders, I've 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.520 done I've spoken of the Raiders twice and they won 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.760 both games, and one was against the Cardinals a few 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.600 years Hey, what's up with that? I'm I'm a mercenary. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.640 I'm a mercenary whatever whatever was needed. You know that 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.800 that they were they were playing terribly. That was a 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.160 couple of years ago, and I remember going they were 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.200 here in town and that was a that was an 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.360 inseason game, a regular season game, and you just you 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.840 could feel, you know, you're here, Gruten just swearing from 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.800 the other room, and its knock gunn wood if you're 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.400 with me, and there maybe a knock or two. I 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.080 mean it was it was a down time and uh 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.719 and they won that game. And uh, He's like, I'm 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.000 sending you a game ball man, Like you're not sending 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.600 me a game ball. Three weeks later, I get a 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.520 game ball, you know, spray painted with everything. I'm like, 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.559 all these linemen go through life and no matter who 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.120 they are, somebody somebody, some people never get a game boat. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.480 I have two. Now I have two, sending you another 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.640 game ball man. So so let me tell you that. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.520 The other part of it is so then I coached 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.720 flag football and Carson come won of one of Steve's 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.040 kids was on the team. He played with my son 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.840 for a little bit, so uh and he would even 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.280 text Scruten. He's, you know, during the game, a picture 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.080 of me. I remember, I had a backpack on, and 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.679 Crud's like, they're not gonna win an f and game 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.240 with that guy coach. So um, you know, it's funny, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.440 how you see, because you don't think about the relationships 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.000 that go on in you know, within professional sports. You 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.920 think this GM probably hates this year. But they can't. 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.520 They can't. They have to be friends, right, because then 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.160 they can make deals when if you don't like somebody, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.720 you're not making a deal them. And there's I get 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.560 this feeling by just a few of the gems that 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.200 I've met and some of the you know, some of 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:42.120 the exacts that you know, there's a lot of people 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.960 people on the outside looking how could they make that trade? 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.719 That's the stupidest trade I've ever seen. But sometimes they 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.560 position it's like, well, you do it this time and 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.559 then we'll figure something out in the There's a lot 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.520 of that kind of stuff, but the the the end 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.600 result might be something different because you don't know who's 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.920 gonna last. Were sure. So there's there's a lot of 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.320 trust between these guys and making deals and things like that. 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:07.200 I mean, so, is it true that you called Steve 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:11.439 Kim on Draft Day as John Gruden from like a 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.560 different number? No, that was the Yahoo Sports took that. 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.960 It was my own number, And I texted him, you 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.400 know the memos thing in the app. It's like it's hey, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.679 it's John Man. What do you say we trade, make 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.960 a good trade. Uh. I don't remember who it was, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.120 but it's like, well trade up to number three, you 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:30.360 trade for this, and then we're all everybody's happy, man, okay. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.920 And that got out. I think it was Dad Patrick 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.199 or something like that that I took because Steve called in. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.520 Steve called in and he was talking about it. But 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.240 people only heard parts of it that I called him 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.320 as John Gruden and then they made up the rest 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.040 of the story that became like national news. Oh yeah, 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.280 it was huge. Look that's what I remember, right as 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.760 far as I knew, you actually called yeah my dad. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.240 My dad was texting me. I can't believe he messed 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.120 up the draft, you know, you know I didn't he 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.720 knew it was me. I would not mess with a 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.959 friend in that situation and do that type of thing. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.320 I mean, something similar happened. Uh what was that? What 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.640 was the other thing that just happened recently? Oh? You 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.640 know the people blew it down for board jj Wat. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.839 I texted jj Wat it's like, you should come here. 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:11.840 You know. It's like, because I've known him for years, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.839 he and his brothers all came out. I remember him 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.160 making fun of me because they had. I was really 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.080 working on getting in shape at the time and I 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.280 was jogging a ton and I bought these shoes. I'm 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.680 five six, and I don't try to hide that, you know, 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.880 I am. This is what except for the heels you 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.360 have on today. Well, the shoes I was wearing literally 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.680 had like a They were Runners shoes that I got 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.040 at the store right down the street here from the facility. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.079 And they were an inch inch and a half high 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.400 that are like Runners shoes that are really soft. And 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.200 JJ looked down as Susan was really compensating. There aren't 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.480 and his brother and I googled his brothers because they 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.480 were still in college and even high school, I think, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:48.920 and I was like, you're the tight end and he 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.240 was like in JJ's like what you're You've been googling. 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:52.880 I'm like, yeah, a little bit. You gotta know who's 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.840 coming in because they were. We snuck JJ Watt into 0:11:55.840 --> 0:12:00.360 the Riverside Theater in Milwaukee and nobody knew he was there. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.240 That's pretty good at the you know, he was well, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.400 he was playing with Houston at the time, obviously. And 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:09.319 I'm from Madison, you're from Waukeshaw, Walkershaw outside Milwaukee. And 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.880 JJ's from Peawaukee, right, which is Wakashaw County, which is one, 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.600 you know one you know, so you guys had that connection. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.600 And then so he was with the Texans and you 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.280 he was back in Wisconsin and you were performing there 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.240 and you, yeah, he was just in town and I 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.080 tweeted at him something and he was following me, and 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.559 then I DMed him and then maybe we exchanged numbers 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.520 or something like that. And you know, the more famous 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.520 somebody is, the harder it is to get them to 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:37.640 go somewhere or nail something down. Like I've been around 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.200 some super super famous people and they're like, I'll try 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:41.520 to get there, I'll try to get there, and then 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.160 you just go they're not gonna come. And he was 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.640 one that did end up showing up. It's it's one 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.520 of those that's uh. I remember saying to him. I'm like, 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.880 we're talking about Lebron and how Lebron was the most famous, 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.200 you know, probably the number one basketball player in the world, 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:58.400 and this is right, JJ's big, but he's not, you know. 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.240 But I mean JJ was not to where he was 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.760 even that he was almost to the pinnacle being one 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.080 of the faces of the NFL, but he wasn't quite 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.400 there yet. And we're talking. I'm like, you're famous, but 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.319 you're you know where I'm doing. You're you're not the 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.400 face of the NFL. And like another year later too, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.640 he was just the face of the NFL. But I 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.800 remember I was wearing a I was wearing an Aaron 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.120 Rodgers jersey, and uh, it was just so funny. It's 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.559 like nice jersey. You know, he's just messing with me 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:26.880 and stuff like what do you want me to do? 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:34.440 Let me change, mister. So you so you started comedy? 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.760 How Because you and I have talked, I didn't realize 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.960 you were like a great basketball player. Well that's because 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:41.760 I wasn't really well you just well you told me 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.199 you were. No, I wasn't great, but my friend played 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.439 like Junior Olympic basketball and something that. So I was 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.760 around a lot of the basketball players. But I wasn't 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.880 a great basketball player. So how did you start in comedy? 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.640 Because so when I was growing up in Madison, I 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.400 wanted to be a stand up comedian and I would 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.719 go I had a friend who performed This was at 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.320 age sixteen, so junior in high school, who would perform 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.160 at one of the comedy clubs in downtown Madison, and 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.080 on Tuesday night said have an open mic night, and 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.080 he would get me in there st St. State on 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.600 State Street in Madison. I was, first of all, was terrible. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.160 I think it was a funny business at the time, 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.720 funny business, comedy club. I can't remember anyway, I was terrible, 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.960 terrible now I could see. Yeah, and so that's way 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.280 too dry. Way to go be a broadcast or just 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.560 go do something else. But how did you start? Because 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.440 it has to be one of the hardest businesses to 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.560 succeed in. You've been relevant as a comedian four in 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.920 and out twenty years though. Plus that's hard to do. Man. Well, 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.960 a lot of it's because I stick my nose in sports. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.880 If there wasn't, sports probably be a little bit different 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.560 of a story because it's hard to do sports comedy 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.520 because when I don't think of myself as a sports comedian, 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.480 but people are like footy is sports comedian, or you're 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.400 great sports, and like it just happens to be one 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.880 of the things they do. And the reasons because it's 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.960 so funny to do analysts and you take them in 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:02.040 everyday situations and just do what they do in broadcasting. UM. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.920 So I went to school for broadcast journalism University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.080 I actually went to Parkside for a year, which is 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.680 in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and I was going to play baseball there. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:13.880 But I was like, ah, you know, I'm never gonna 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.040 get anywhere playing baseball. It's a vision two and a 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.040 couple of my friends ended up even getting drafted and 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.240 stuff like that. But then I I went, I transferred, 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.120 I endered the transfer portal. I went over to uh 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.440 University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee and went to school for broadcast journalism. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.920 So I went and got that degree. And while I 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.520 was doing that, I went up I went to a 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:36.640 comedy sports class, which is, you know, improv comedy games. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.320 And they're like these voices you do, you should do 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.480 stand up and I was like, I'll try it. It 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.640 does that mean I'm not very good at this improv thing? 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.920 They're like, well, it's just we could see the toolbox 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.960 that you have that you could use, uh, you know, 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.760 as opposed to baseball player, I was a zero tool player. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.960 Was it comedy sports? Because I tried that as well. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.080 The comedy sports was the improv yet a group so 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.880 it was very tough, very difficult. Yeah, you have to 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:58.800 you have to learn how to play the games, and 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:00.880 it's there's a thing called yeah. And so you take 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.880 what you don't see people in unless they're like super 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.040 high level and they know each other. You don't see 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.360 people asking questions in improv. They just take whatever's given 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.960 to them and they say yes, whether it's out loud 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.560 or you know, internally, and they agree to it and 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.560 then move on. So it moves. It always moves the 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.880 scene forward, and that's one of the things that makes 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:25.360 it work. So I did that a little bit, and 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.360 then I went started doing stand up and the stand 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:29.880 up thing just started to click. I was actually I 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.240 actually injured my back. I missed like months of school 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.400 and stuff like that, and then I got away from 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.840 stand up. I graduated, and then I got back out 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.560 there and I just started working right away and then 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.120 got on the college circuit. And in the meantime, I'd 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.520 learned a bunch of different impressions that I worked on 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.880 the maddened thing when I was doing the John Madden thing. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.600 That's what really took off, because nobody was doing stuff 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.760 like that. Nobody would have, you know, a sports impression. 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.400 They go to a comedy club, you know, here's a 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.680 guy when he but just contacts and he could see better, 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.280 you know, and then people would be like, oh my god, 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:01.960 you sound like and I listen to my old John 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.400 Mann and sound like here's a guy. I'm like, it's 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.480 just so bad, and people are like, it sounds exactly like. 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.840 But then, you know, you become more like the person 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.119 and you try to say the things that they say 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.119 and say them the way that they say them, and 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:22.199 then you add you add the then you add the 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.800 thing that makes them a character. Yeah, because there are 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.600 people that do dead on impressions better than me. They 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.720 are quite a few, Like I've seen here, these people 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.000 that are in the industry that are sound alikes. I've 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.240 never really wanted to be a sound like. No, it's 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.639 it's more of a parody, but it is you sound 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.240 enough alike. But it is more Yeah, it's more fun, 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.880 and it's more fun. It becomes a character that you've created, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.160 as opposed to when you do it dead on impression, 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.399 all you can do is scenes that somebody has to 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.760 be incredibly well written. I'm not that good of a writer, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.639 so uh, it's I just like to blow them up 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.320 and make them sillier and bigger. I think I recall 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:59.080 the story of Gruden getting upset initially or he wasn't well, 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.479 I don't, yeah, I think people are always What happens 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.320 is that people are always worried it's going to hurt 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.840 their bottom line. So they're worried that Madison Avenue is 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.959 going to see them and not want to do commercials 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.320 with them or something. What happens is the opposite that 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:20.600 once you find a take for a person, they the advertisers, 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.800 start watching what you do and then they write the 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:29.360 commercials for your take on the person. So um, for example, Gruden, 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.040 he would text me, you know, three o'clock in the morning, 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.119 which I think is lunch for him. What time you 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.560 get up one am? Then what time you go to bed? 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.120 Five pm? And he would takes me, I just got 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.720 done doing a commercial where they had me doing impersonation 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.240 you man, and I was too scared to ask him 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:48.560 what that meant. But I think it was the one 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.320 where he's talking to the tire and they probably said, 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.400 be bigger, be more like Caliendo doing the impression of them, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.560 and uh, you know, that's that's it. Becomes a good thing. 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.119 Barkley said that too. He's like, they I end up 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.480 making more money because people here, people like you doing 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.040 this stuff. That's what when they hear it, they know 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.080 what to write. It's very very good. So those things, 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.920 those work and it works in their favor. But people 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.000 who are in sports, they get weirded out about it 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.000