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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in. Today is the greatest show.

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Speaker 3: I had a mini top hat and a long coat

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Speaker 3: Hugh Jackman as we get ready for Super Bowl sixty

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Speaker 3: We've got a full day. We've got Jared Smith in

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Speaker 3: with me this morning. Greg Cosell join us in a

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Speaker 3: few minutes as we break down all the particulars.

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Speaker 2: Of this game.

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Speaker 3: We've got a story in the Olympics we'll get to

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Speaker 3: in a moment, but first, welcome in. I'm Mike Carmon,

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Speaker 3: honored to be with you here again to kick off

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl Sunday for Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Not lost on me.

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Speaker 3: Every Sunday morning on a Super Bowl I get a

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Speaker 3: appreciate all of you, our guys Brandon and Mark that

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Speaker 3: a weird week when you get to Super Bowl week

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Speaker 3: in our media world. So when you got guys that

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Speaker 3: and give their all, we appreciate it. And Jared answering

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Speaker 3: the bell this morning at Jared Smith Betts. You hear

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Speaker 3: him as part of Countdown to kick Off presented by

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Speaker 3: BETMGM on Saturdays. And here with me this more is

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Speaker 3: we get ready to break this game down. All the

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Speaker 3: preliminaries are finally done. In theory, they're they're not doing

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Speaker 3: too many more tweaks to the playbooks, Jared, But you

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Speaker 3: know we've analyzed it every way till Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Now it's actually Sunday and we get to get it on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a long wait, but the wait is almost over.

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Speaker 4: And Mike, to echo your sentiments, I've been in this

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Speaker 4: business now for about twenty years. I graduated Penn State

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight, so let's call it two decades.

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Speaker 4: And I am incredibly grateful for this opportunity. You know,

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Speaker 4: being able to do the show yesterday, you know that

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Speaker 4: we typically do on Saturday mornings, and then you know,

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Speaker 4: our humble leader, Scott Shapiro, giving me this opportunity this morning.

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Speaker 4: And I'm very very humbled and very very grateful to

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Speaker 4: For a kid from New York City to make it

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Speaker 4: I echo your sentiments. Excited to be with everyone today.

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Speaker 3: We are blast, We are ready to get to it.

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Speaker 2: This is what greeted me when I looked at my phone.

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Speaker 1: That left me because these are the times, the.

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Speaker 3: Everybody holds that bread now waiting on more word as

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Speaker 3: but has anything really changed as you started to break

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Speaker 6: Well, that brings up a great point, and I think

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Speaker 6: it's something May will learn with more experience. He walks

439
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Speaker 6: a very fine line between doing something that's very good,

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Speaker 6: which is staying in the pocket and making late in

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Speaker 6: the down throws that allow the route concepts to develop

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Speaker 6: at the intermediate and deeper levels, and then he's more

443
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Speaker 6: than willing innately to make throws out of you know,

444
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Speaker 6: squeezed pockets where there are bodies around him. The flip

445
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Speaker 6: side of that is there are times when I'll hold

446
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Speaker 6: it a little too long and he gets sacked. My

447
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Speaker 6: sense is that's a field that he'll learn with experience.

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Speaker 6: Now you mentioned the Seahawks defense. They are a really

449
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Speaker 6: interesting defense because they're not a high percentage blitz defense,

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Speaker 6: but when they do blitz they're among the best in

451
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Speaker 6: the league in terms of their pressure rate. They use

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Speaker 6: em and Worry as a blitzer. He's had the most

453
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Speaker 6: blitzes of any defensive back in the league. Witherspoon he's

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Speaker 6: used as a blitzer at times as well, and he

455
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Speaker 6: has a very high pressure rate when he blitzes. So

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Speaker 6: you know the thing about the Super Bowl guys, and

457
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Speaker 6: you know this, when you have that extra week of preparation,

458
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Speaker 6: you know that there's always some tweaks. There's always some wrinkles,

459
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Speaker 6: things that we don't know specifically that are separate from

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Speaker 6: what the tendency of the team has been all season long.

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Speaker 6: Though I'm very curious to see how the Seahawks played

462
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Speaker 6: is because, like I said, they've not been a high

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Speaker 6: percentage blitz defense throughout the season.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's celebrate a little bit of the Josh McDaniel's

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Speaker 3: side of things from a Playgod just a couple of

466
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Speaker 3: weeks ago.

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Speaker 6: Second and five little police flicker back to May who

468
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Speaker 6: throws it down the field as talks that is Hans

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Speaker 6: with the reception. What a play call.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it looks so terrible, but there is one

471
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Speaker 4: side that can actually do it.

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Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel's perfect call.

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Speaker 8: Mac Collins sells the fake perfectly, and Drake May, who

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Speaker 8: has been incredible from.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one yard reception on that.

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Speaker 3: Maccollin's a name, well, he's one of the flamboyant stars

477
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Speaker 3: of this year's Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he'll wear shoes today. I don't know. But all

479
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Speaker 2: that to say, you know, Greg, when we.

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Speaker 3: Talk about that pressure, how did the Patriots cover up

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Speaker 3: for the struggles late season well chronicled of Will Campbell.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's both Will Campbell and Wilson the

483
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Speaker 6: left guard, the two rookies. Campbell is obviously more visible

484
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Speaker 6: because he's on the outside. So the question becomes, how

485
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Speaker 6: do they feel they have to go about dealing with

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Speaker 6: that when he gets to be third and long or

487
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Speaker 6: pure pass situations. Obviously he played against some great pass

488
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Speaker 6: rushers throughout the playoffs. The Seahawks don't have an edge

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Speaker 6: pass rusher quite at that level. Although they're still good,

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Speaker 6: it's not as if they can rush the quarterback from

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Speaker 6: the edge. When they go pure pass very often. DeMarco

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Speaker 6: Lawrence will be an edge rusher at times, Leonard Williams

493
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Speaker 6: will move outside, but they can still rush the quarterback

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Speaker 6: one on one. So what will the Patriots do in

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Speaker 6: those situations? Will they feel necessary to number one chip

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Speaker 6: number two keep someone in as a primary protector. And

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Speaker 6: when you do that, and Mike, we've talked about this

498
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Speaker 6: all season, then you lose an eligible receiver. And since

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Speaker 6: the Seahawks are not a high percentage blitz defense. They

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Speaker 6: almost always have seven in coverage, and if you lose

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Speaker 6: a receiver because of pass protection, then you've got seven

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Speaker 6: predominantly playing zone. They're a predominant zone team, playing two

503
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Speaker 6: shell top down, then you have seven in coverage against

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Speaker 6: four or maybe three receivers depending on how the Patriots

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Speaker 6: do it.

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Speaker 4: Greg The thing I noticed again, and you just mentioned

507
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Speaker 4: it that that shell you know, the c off play

508
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Speaker 4: nickel or diamond. You know, over ninety percent of the time,

509
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Speaker 4: like they use even worry as kind of that linebacker

510
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Speaker 4: that flows in and out of the box. That means

511
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Speaker 4: they play a lot of light boxes. The Patriots have

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Speaker 4: been successful running into light boxes this year twelve in

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Speaker 4: success rate on designed rushes against those lighter boxes. Do

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Speaker 4: you think Stevenson, maybe even Treveon Henderson could be the

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Speaker 4: big X factor in this game running it into those

516
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Speaker 4: lighter boxes?

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Speaker 6: Well, Jarren, Now that gets into the personnel that the

518
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Speaker 6: Patriots line up in because they do line up with

519
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Speaker 6: six offensive linemen a good amount your relative to the league,

520
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 6: they play with the full back west over. So in

521
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Speaker 6: those situations if they go that route, deal will not

522
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Speaker 6: be light boxes because m and Worry in that situation

523
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Speaker 6: is essentially a SAM linebacker who lines up as a

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Speaker 6: stacked player, so those boxes would not be light. And

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Speaker 6: we know that Leonard Williams inside, Byron Murphy inside, Ernest Jones,

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Speaker 6: Drake Thomas, these are really good run defenders. It's funny

527
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Speaker 6: you mentioned Henderson. We have no idea what Josh mcthigels

528
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Speaker 6: is going to do. Obviously none of us know, but

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Speaker 6: a part of me thinks Henderson is going to get

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Speaker 6: more snaps in this game because of his ability to

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Speaker 6: bounce and break. Because Stevenson's been great and he's physical,

532
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Speaker 6: he's tough, and he's got lighter feet than people might think.

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Speaker 6: But it is hard to run inside against this defense.

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Speaker 6: And like I said, and less they decide in this

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Speaker 6: game to run the ball more out of you know,

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Speaker 6: let's say eleven personnel with three wide receivers and spread

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Speaker 6: out the Seahawks defense, which, by the way, they could

538
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Speaker 6: very well do. But if they bring in their big

539
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Speaker 6: people and play against the Seahawks defense, that will not

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Speaker 6: be with a light box. I'm really curious to see

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Speaker 6: if their effective running the ball.

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Speaker 3: Now, that is absolutely the workload split the snap split

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Speaker 3: certainly on display in that game against the Broncos. He

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Speaker 3: had twenty five carries for Stevenson for the seventy one

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Speaker 3: yard cards. The yards for carry don't matter, but what

546
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Speaker 3: do you do? You grind clock and just you know,

547
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Speaker 3: grind out the game. Whereas Henderson's been the home run hitter,

548
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Speaker 3: maybe not as effective when you've got to try to

549
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Speaker 3: stand back and give Drake May that extra second as

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Speaker 3: he is a little slighter of frame, and as we

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Speaker 3: know rookies, I always asked him when I did the

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Speaker 3: Rookie Premiere, Greg, It's like, how's your dancing in front

553
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Speaker 3: of the mirror?

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Speaker 6: Going?

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Speaker 3: About fifty percent of the guys got what I was

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Speaker 3: getting at with that question.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, you know what's really interesting is Henderson was

558
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Speaker 6: a really good blocker at Ohio State, and that was

559
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Speaker 6: viewed as a strength. I certainly did when I did

560
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Speaker 6: his tape. Sure, but he has struggled to pass protect

561
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Speaker 6: to that level in the NFL, So that's another factor.

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Speaker 6: But like I said, it'll be interesting to see what

563
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks do in those pure pass and third down

564
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Speaker 6: situations because they've not been a high percentage of its defense.

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Speaker 6: But you don't know what they'll do in this game.

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Speaker 6: That's the fun of this game. There's going to be

567
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Speaker 6: some things that are unscripted, as they say, unscripted looks,

568
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Speaker 6: unscripted concepts because it's they've had an extra week to prepare.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such an interesting like that extra week, Greg,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's the key here is we're kind

571
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Speaker 4: of analyzing all these games based on what we've seen

572
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Speaker 4: the extra week. There's going to be some kind of

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Speaker 4: wrinkle that it's just impossible for us who love to

574
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Speaker 4: grind the film and love to watch the games prepare

575
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Speaker 4: for at best. Guess I like the Henderson angle. That

576
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Speaker 4: would be a wrinkle that I wouldn't expect. Is there

577
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Speaker 4: anything else that you're like, you know, this curveball might

578
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Speaker 4: be come and keep an eye on it.

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Speaker 6: Uh, boy, that's a hard question to answer. I'll tell

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Speaker 6: you very quick. I'll tell you a very quick story.

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Speaker 6: I got a chance to talk to my friend Brian

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Speaker 6: Hoyer on radio road this week, and he said in

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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl, in which the Patriots beat the Rams

584
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Speaker 6: thirteen to three, he said they prepared for wait Phillips defense.

585
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Speaker 6: He said they knew the defense better than Wade Phillips

586
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Speaker 6: and then Wade Phillips came out and played a totally

587
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 6: different defense, like totally different, not a tweak, not a wrinkle,

588
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 6: totally different. And he said, took Josh McDaniels until the

589
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Speaker 6: fourth quarter when they finally figured it out, because don't forget,

590
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Speaker 6: you're dealing with the game as it's going. It's not

591
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Speaker 6: like you can go sit watch film talk about it,

592
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Speaker 6: you know, have a day or two. And he said,

593
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Speaker 6: finally in the fourth quarter they figured out and they

594
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Speaker 6: attacked it. And people might remember that Brady hit Gronkowski

595
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Speaker 6: for a long completion and they ended up scoring in

596
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Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. You know, so you don't know if

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Speaker 6: something like that's going to happen. You know, you're dealing

598
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Speaker 6: with two incredibly smart guys in McDaniels and Mike McDonald,

599
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Speaker 6: so you just don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the interesting thing.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: We didn't get a lot of great sound bites from

603
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Speaker 3: either team, right, we're always waiting for someone to give

604
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Speaker 3: us a bulletin board material. But what was consistent from

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Speaker 3: the Seattle players like, yeah, McDonald will have a bunch

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Speaker 3: of players, He'll he'll drow up, he'll still be sitting

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Speaker 3: at a computer with his whiteboard on Saturday afternoon, So

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Speaker 3: we have no idea what we're going to walk into

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Speaker 3: on Sunday. Yeah, there's my just a little synopsis of

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Speaker 3: how they are.

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Speaker 6: And it also comes down to your players in the

612
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Speaker 6: handle and Ernest Jones is an incredibly intelligent player, you know,

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Speaker 6: EM and Worry, even though he's a rookie. He strikes me.

614
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Speaker 6: I don't know him personally obviously, but he strikes me.

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Speaker 6: Look look what they've asked him to do as a rookie.

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Speaker 6: He essentially does about five different things based on how

617
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Speaker 6: he's deployed in the context of that defense. Because they're

618
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Speaker 6: essentially a big nickel and dime defense, that's what they are.

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Speaker 6: And they've asked Em and Worry to do so many

620
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Speaker 6: different things. They wouldn't ask him to do that if

621
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Speaker 6: he couldn't do it. So you know, you're dealing with

622
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Speaker 6: a guy like Jones, incredibly smart, em and Worry, incredibly smart,

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Speaker 6: Julian Love, incredibly smart Brian. I mean, they've got a

624
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Speaker 6: lot of really intelligent players that can probably handle some

625
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Speaker 6: changes and some tweaks and wrinkles. Even beyond that, if

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Speaker 6: McDonald chooses to do so.

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Speaker 3: And if folks forgot or missed it in the offing

628
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Speaker 3: em and worry off the injury report, that ankle has

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Speaker 3: been cleared, as as Drake May's shoulder. As we look

630
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Speaker 3: up the two sides of that particular matchup later on today, Jared,

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Speaker 3: you got one last one for Greg?

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Speaker 4: Yes, actually, I do have one quick one the coaching

633
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Speaker 4: stats here. Who would you give the edge too, because

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Speaker 4: I think McDaniels is elite. Obviously, we know Mike McDonald

635
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Speaker 4: trying to be the first coach to call the defensive

636
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Speaker 4: signals and win a Super Bowl. Is there an edge

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Speaker 4: in the coach It feels like that's the most even

638
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 4: matchup in this game, is both coaching staffs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a hard question to answer, Jared, because you know,

640
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 6: you go through a game and then it comes down

641
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 6: to subtle adjustments that are hard to know what they're

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Speaker 6: going to be. And I'm walk I'm going to be

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Speaker 6: in the stands as a fan today watching the game

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Speaker 6: and I won't be able to get any kind of

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Speaker 6: feel for that until I'm back in the office on

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Speaker 6: Tuesday grinding the take of the game. So you know,

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Speaker 6: now you get into the tape, I mean, the game

648
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Speaker 6: as the game flow. There's good coaches and both are phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: Will always have you know a plan A, a plan B,

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Speaker 6: a plan C, because they just don't know. The question

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Speaker 6: is when do you This is something I've always discussed

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Speaker 6: with people because fans always think, oh, well, why didn't

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Speaker 6: they do this? When you go through and put your

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Speaker 6: game plan together and you feel really good about it,

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Speaker 6: if it doesn't work at some point, when do you

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Speaker 6: feel like you have to change because you've spent two

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Speaker 6: weeks working and saying this is the best way to go.

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Speaker 6: And let's say you go through New England offense the

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Speaker 6: first three possessions and man, nothing good is happening. Do

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Speaker 6: you say, hey, let's stick with our process we've worked

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Speaker 6: on for two weeks, or now do we go to

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Speaker 6: plan B. I think that's one of the toughest things

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Speaker 6: for a coach to deal.

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Speaker 2: With, youth versus experience.

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Speaker 3: McDonald McDaniel's two very different paths to where we get

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Speaker 3: today Super Bowl sixty. Later on this afternoon, Greg will

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Speaker 3: tag you back in go through the Seattle side of

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Speaker 3: things and how Mike Rabel and company try to solve

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Speaker 3: it from a defensive side. As we continue here, on

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Speaker 3: Fox Football Sunday, Greg, go enjoy a quick cup of coffee,

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Speaker 3: maybe some more.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, wick I could, Yeah, I wish I could

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Speaker 6: have that celebration cupcake, but not today. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll make sure one's waiting for you when you

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Speaker 3: get back. But in the interim, all right, past like

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Speaker 3: a cat. We'll get back to you in a few minutes,

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Speaker 3: Greg Coach. Thanks Greg at Greg CoA Cell, NFL Films

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Speaker 3: forty six years, the matchup show that you hear, and

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Speaker 3: then of course every Thursday breaking it down with Colin

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Speaker 3: Coward on the Herd one o'clock Eastern time. As you

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Speaker 3: heard from Greg's lips there, he'll be in the stands

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Speaker 3: watching it unfold live. I'll probably text him a million

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Speaker 3: times based on what he saw, just to I'll be

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Speaker 3: that guy. Hey, look, man, when you've got high powered

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Speaker 3: You want to be the smartest guy in the room, right,

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Speaker 3: So I'll be texting Jared. You can tweet him at

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Speaker 3: Jared Smith Bets tweet me over at Swollen Do. We'll

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Speaker 3: so we'll do that as well as the play of

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Speaker 3: the day as we continue. But first, an existential question.

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Speaker 3: He's Jared Smith. I'm Mike Harbon. It's Fox Football Sunday

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Speaker 3: Air A Super Edition on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Fox Sports a Radio. It's Super Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Fox Football Sunday, My Karma, Jared Smith with you. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for giving us a few minutes of your time as

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Speaker 3: you get your day going here ahead of the festivities

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Speaker 3: later on. Maybe you're ambitious like my younger daughter is.

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Speaker 3: down and do a ten k. I'm gonna finish the show,

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Speaker 3: finish my coffee and go lay down and fetal position

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Speaker 3: and take another nap. But I appreciate the go getters

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Speaker 3: out there. If you're out to and from services, walking

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Speaker 3: the dog, whatever you're doing. Thanks for being with us

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Speaker 3: at Jared Smith. That's where you find Jared. We'll get

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Speaker 3: back into Super Bowl coverage and discussion in just a second,

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Speaker 3: One thirty eight, one twenty five. Your Final Castle finishes

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Speaker 3: fifteen of nineteen from the field, forty points, twelve rebounds,

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Speaker 3: part of my Saturday. I tried to sit and watch

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Speaker 3: this game. It was one of the Prime games. Guess

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm at that point now, like This

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Speaker 4: is usually the week, actually last week, right the week

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Speaker 4: with no football that I start to make that hoops transition. Sure,

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Speaker 4: but I'm still about a month or two away from

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Speaker 4: from the NBA. No.

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Speaker 3: I get that college basketball had some big ones. We Carolina,

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Speaker 3: some of the other stuff, all of that stuff down

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Speaker 3: he did, maybe he didn't. We'll see what comes out

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Speaker 3: in the wash and all of that. But certainly court

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Speaker 3: storming was not reserved only from Mike Skryzewski complaining more

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Speaker 3: on college buckets as we get going, But today is

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl Sunday, and a lot of what we've talked

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Speaker 3: about from the defensive side. Em and worry, one of

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Speaker 3: the finalists for the Defensive Rookie of the Year sweats

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Speaker 3: in year of Cleveland since he needed to make a

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Speaker 3: million tackle. It's kind of funny you have Miles Garrett Win,

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Speaker 3: a unanimous defensive player of the year, you have the

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Speaker 3: defensive rookie of the year, and yet your guy who

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Speaker 3: was your defensive coach says I'm done with you. And

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Speaker 3: now that'll get litigated as Schwartz gets ready to leave Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: But I'd be remiss because we still have people who

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Speaker 3: evangelize to here, Jared. Still some people that don't realize

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Speaker 3: the largest and the excitement that is the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: and what it means to stop down your life to

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Speaker 3: watch it for five eight fifteen hours. I mean, pregames

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Speaker 3: have already begun. But here's Emin Warr's mom kind of

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Speaker 3: putting things in perspective for all of us. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to do that is what are you expecting to go

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Speaker 3: over there to San Francisco to watch this game?

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Speaker 2: Watch your son?

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Speaker 10: To be honest with you, I don't know. Everybody keep

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Speaker 10: asking me do you know what do I what are

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Speaker 10: going for you?

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Speaker 2: And I said super Bowl?

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Speaker 6: This that?

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Speaker 2: Do you know how many people die to go to

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl?

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Speaker 10: I'm like, how, I don't know. I have opportunity to

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Speaker 10: good day. So I'm like, okay, maybe this is something

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Speaker 10: big that I don't know. Is big, Alli, I don't

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Speaker 10: know what I'm expecting. I'm shot, Yeah, super Bowl touching down,

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Speaker 10: we win.

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Speaker 2: That's brilliant. I don't know, it's big. It'll be fun.

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Speaker 3: It's a kid and you see folks kind of breaking

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Speaker 3: it down and having fun with it. But you know,

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Speaker 3: just a reminder, it's okay. My kids getting to do

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Speaker 3: something pretty cool. I get to go watch it. Let's

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Speaker 3: go have some fun. But reminder that you know, we

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Speaker 3: still need there's still other countries to bring football to

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Speaker 3: and Roger Gudell's dream, a dream of globalization is still

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Speaker 3: out there. But em and worry off the injury report.

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Speaker 3: As we alluded to talking with Greg Cosell a little

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Speaker 3: bit earlier, when you look at Drake May and this

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Speaker 3: offense and anybody that you're spotlighting, as you looked in

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Speaker 3: the marketplace and saw some opportunity. I mean Greg brought

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Speaker 3: up Trevon Henderson. Perhaps that snapcount is up because his

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Speaker 3: yardage total was pretty low.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an interesting one. I honestly think that the

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Speaker 4: Patriots defense is gonna be game here. I think this

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Speaker 4: this is going to be a tougher game for the

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Speaker 4: Seahawks to move the ball than the market's expecting. So

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Speaker 4: I would go under on Kenneth Walker's rushing yards and

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Speaker 4: I think you're gonna have to see some creative ways

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Speaker 4: for Seattle to run the ball. And that's where I

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Speaker 4: think Jackson Smith and Jigba might be a part of it.

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Speaker 4: I would not bet the overrun his receiving yards prop

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Speaker 4: which is sky high. However, if he gets one rushing

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Speaker 4: yard in the game, just one over a half rushing yard,

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Speaker 4: it's almost three to one odds. So that's an interesting

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Speaker 4: trick play because let's be honest, they're gonna try to

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Speaker 4: get Jay send the ball anyway possible. It also could

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Speaker 4: be one of those situations where they try to throw

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Speaker 4: it to him and it's behind the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 4: and it counts as a run and that would also count.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's an interesting prop bet in this game.

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Speaker 2: That interpretation will be key as we roll through.

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Speaker 3: Hey reminder, Countdown to Kickoff presented by bet MGM every

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Speaker 2: More Super Bowl Talks.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Jacked up to be with you another

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Speaker 3: hour here as we kick off everything related to Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl sixties Seahawks Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Later on this afternoon early evening.

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Speaker 3: Wherever you are, if you're overseas around the globe Intergalactically.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in to another hour our four hundred plus affiliates

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Speaker 3: nationwide the iHeartRadio app. However you're listening, we appreciate you

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Speaker 3: being part of our extended family. Jacked up to be

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Speaker 3: with you for another hour, Jared Smith and I. As

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Speaker 3: we continue here, you hear me weeknights alongside Jason Smith

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Speaker 3: as he's got the worst Super Bowl of his life.

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Speaker 2: Don't let him ruin it for the rest of you.

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Speaker 2: It's a glorious game.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that he's a Jets fan and Sam

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Speaker 3: Donald is quarterbacking the Seahawks has made for two weeks

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Speaker 3: of delicious theater for me and my guys in the

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Speaker 3: evening on every rundown, Jared Smith, the last line has

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Speaker 3: been and Jason apologizes to Sam Donald.

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Speaker 4: Is that, I mean I haven't been attention to your

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Speaker 4: guys's you know, narratives.

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Speaker 2: Well that's a failure. Yeah, no, it really is.

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Speaker 4: I really should pay more attention at night. Is that

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Speaker 4: his narrative this year is that Donald was not was

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Speaker 4: going to I mean, I've been banging that drum all year.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's waiting for I had two takes during the playoffs

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Speaker 4: when they started I was like, we can't trust Sam

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Speaker 4: Donald and the Patriots schedule is gonna cost them, and

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Speaker 4: I was wrong on both. So we're wrong all the time.

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Speaker 2: People, Well, but that's just it, you know.

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Speaker 3: They that's why they still get paid and networks pay

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00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: millions upon millions of dollars to broadcast these games because

869
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: nothing is a given. We look at these betting markets

870
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: and you look at some numbers and you get excitable

871
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: and you say, hey, that looks great. Maybe it is,

872
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: maybe it isn't. And a lot of them are one

873
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: play away.

874
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 6: Right.

875
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: How many times did you watch take me as a

876
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: Bear's kid growing up in Chicago, We're watching a game

877
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 3: against Barry Sanders.

878
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: They bottled them up. They've done a hell of a job.

879
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: Minus four zero one three minus one, stacked up oh

880
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: seventy eight in a touchdown.

881
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: We had him.

882
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: How many times as a betting analyst or a fantasy

883
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: player have you looked at your roster? Gone, I got

884
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 3: that right, and then that twelve carries fourteen yard performance. Boy,

885
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: they've really got him bottled up. Yeah, he slipped a

886
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: tackle on the outside. Guy kind of made a business

887
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: decision and tried to, you know, reach or didn't do

888
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: the wrap, and off the guy goes to daylight. All

889
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's one hundred yard day and everybody's like,

890
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: you're an idiot. I'm like, no, no, no, if you actually

891
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: watch the game, I had it right, Ye, that cornerback

892
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: needs to be fired.

893
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 6: You know.

894
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: It's that kind of thing. So it's one of those.

895
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: And for Sam Darnold, I mean that's certainly been the narrative.

896
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: He puts the ball into harm's way and historically he's

897
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 3: paid for it. This year he did still lead what

898
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: he had fourteen interceptions, but has played mistake free football

899
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: here down the stretch and they've been able to move

900
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: things around. We'll talk about some of the particulars and

901
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: some of those secondary options that come into play, but

902
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 3: it's one of the few stories in an age where

903
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: I think redemption, arcs and everything get there. There just

904
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: do and sometimes maybe to a point where people like,

905
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: all right, I get it, I get it. And with

906
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: Sam Darnald, maybe it's an I get it. I get

907
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 3: it because it is four teams removed from the Jets,

908
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: but that link and that history as they continue to

909
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: struggle and on the other side of the coin is

910
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: New England back for another bite at the apple here

911
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 3: makes for a very contentious thing for a lot of

912
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: fans going, wow, we didn't even get our shot at

913
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: the table and the Patriots have restocked. But for Sam Darnold,

914
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: it's been a run. And I still wonder if he

915
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: has a bad game here, how many people will still

916
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: say the I told you so even though it happens

917
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl.

918
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 4: Oh, people are waiting. I mean, listen, Mike, we live

919
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 4: in the gotcha culture now, where it doesn't matter how

920
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: many times you are or your opinion is on the

921
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 4: right track, the second you veer off of that track,

922
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: and people can get you right, they can stick it.

923
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 4: They will, they will do it. So whoever loses tonight,

924
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: whoever loses tonight. And that's unfortunately a part of our

925
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 4: culture too, is a lot of times we just focus

926
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: on the negative. And I'm working on this, you know,

927
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 4: in the analysis side of the realm, where I'm trying

928
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: to focus less on the negative and more on the positive.

929
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: The Darnald story, though, deserves a lot of love, and

930
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: he's gotten a lot of love. But when I was

931
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 4: going back and looking through the bad years, right the

932
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 4: Jets and the Panthers years. That's purgatory. That could have

933
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: ended a lesser human, someone who didn't have the resolve

934
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: and the strength to overcome that. From a mental side, Physically,

935
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: he's the same guy. I mean, he probably has improved,

936
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 4: and he's probably gotten a little bit wrong. He's only

937
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 4: twenty eight years old.

938
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: Like that's the other part of it, right, he is

939
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: only eight years old.

940
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: But physically he's still the same quarterback he was with

941
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: the Jets. Like, maybe again he's improved a little bit.

942
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: It's only been seven years. It hasn't been like a

943
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: crazy amount of time where it's like a Tom Brady

944
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: revolution where he's you know, completely changed his diet and

945
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: his physical you know, skills. Like he's still the same

946
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: guy that he was coming out of USC with a

947
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: lot of arm talent and a lot of physical ability.

948
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: What's changed with Donald is his ability to process and

949
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: also overcome adversity. The year he's spent in San Francisco.

950
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: Ironically enough, the game being in Santa Clara tonight is

951
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 4: I think the turning point. And I when I was

952
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 4: going back and looking at his career. So he started

953
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: one game with the Niners. It was Week eighteen, in

954
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty three season. It was January of twenty

955
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 4: twenty four, so essentially two years ago, almost to the

956
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: day in Santa Clara at Levi Stadium against the Rams

957
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 4: meaningless Week eighteen game. It was Sam Donald versus Carson

958
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: Wentz on the other side for the Rams, both teams

959
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: that clinched the playoffs obviously, and Donald's walking off the

960
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 4: field that day, and I bet every single analyst and

961
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: every single person who covers the NFL is thinking your

962
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: career is over, Sam, Like you're going to be a

963
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 4: backup forever and you're never going to ascend back to

964
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: that point where you're, you know, a top five pick

965
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: getting ready to be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

966
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: And then he goes to Minnesota and everything changes, and

967
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: you could dissect the decision you know by the Vikings

968
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: brass to you know, choose JJ McCarthy over him last offseason.

969
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 4: But then the situation in Seattle all it all aligned, right,

970
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: And this is where timing matters, right, Kubiak. You know,

971
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 4: Seattle is going through their changes where they go from

972
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 4: Ryan Grubb who goes back to Bama. Now they need

973
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: a new OC and they bring in Clint Kubiak and

974
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 4: Klint Kubiak's like, man, you know, when I was with

975
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: San Francisco in twenty twenty three, Sam Donald was the backup,

976
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: and I really thought he made a lot of strides

977
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: that year. And then they go back to Donald, they

978
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 4: give him the three year deal one hundred million. Obviously

979
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: that was too rich for the Vikings. And now the rest,

980
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 4: as they say, is history. All of the pieces had

981
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: to come together, right. Seattle shipped Geno Smith and DK

982
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: Metcalf out of town, and JSN, who was a slot

983
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: receiver like seventy five percent of snaps his first two

984
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: years with DK and Gino, all of a sudden goes

985
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 4: to the outside. You get a new oc, new quarterback,

986
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 4: and it all just comes together, and now you're seeing

987
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: the end result. They're a favorite in the Super Bowl.

988
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see everything coalesce as it were. I thought

989
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: two great stories that percolated over these two weeks. One

990
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: got really no run, and perhaps after the Super Bowl

991
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 3: at will was Joe Milton on Radio Row kind of

992
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: talking about what a mess New England was before Mike

993
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: Rabel comes in.

994
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: And you look at the end of the Belichick.

995
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: Era, the Jared Mayo year and all of that, and

996
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: then obviously Vrabel comes in, but talking about his run,

997
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: but the number of Minnesota Vikings who've decided to put

998
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 3: their name on it about Sam Darnold leaving in look

999
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: some of its hindsight twenty twenty with the year that

1000
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: certainly Sam has had and JJ McCarthy struggled.

1001
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: But I thought it was interesting.

1002
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: When you had Aaron Jones in doing a podcast and

1003
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 3: coming out live from Radio Row kind of even name

1004
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: check Daniel Jones in the mix. Now, Jones wanted to start,

1005
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: So if he got a starting a place where he

1006
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: was going to really be able to compete for a

1007
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: starting role, he went and he took his fifteen million,

1008
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: went to Indianapolis, had the great run until he got hurt,

1009
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: and all the teammates backing up him. But going back

1010
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: to San Francisco and the story with Kubiak and even

1011
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: with these Minnesota players, I don't know that you find

1012
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: a person that says a negative word about Sam Darnold

1013
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 3: the guy. And I think that's one of the things

1014
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: that has also understated in all of this is you know,

1015
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: people can bemoan that he got multiple bites here in

1016
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: the NFL and multiple opportunities to go and show his whares.

1017
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: As you said, the physical skills have been there, lesser

1018
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: guys would have stopped. And that's the bigger thing is

1019
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 3: that you still have to want to go do it right.

1020
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: How many times as Weekend Warriors we have an injury and.

1021
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I'm done. I can't can't go through that again.

1022
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: Right, you injure yourself playing basketball and maybe cutting just

1023
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 3: doesn't feel right. We were talking about the Lindsay Vaughn

1024
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: skiing earlier, right, the accident today coming off the ACL

1025
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 3: tear and everything, but the resolve of I can do this.

1026
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lead athlete, I'm gonna push suit through. I've

1027
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: got a team, We've worked out a plan.

1028
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1029
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold made money, right, he got paid as a

1030
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: number three overall pick not you know, the same funny

1031
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: money Sam Bradford and those guys did all those years ago,

1032
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 3: after before they changed all the rules. But the hey,

1033
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep battling because I want to be a

1034
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: top guy in this profession. I mean we've seen it

1035
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: at any walk of life. Folks don't keep coming back

1036
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 3: for a fourth or fifth try. They move into something else.

1037
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Mayo thing is interesting too. You

1038
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: mentioned that the coaching staff with New England, like that

1039
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 4: was a really expensive decision Robert Kraft made. They let

1040
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 4: go of twenty five coaches last year, and I was

1041
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 4: reading an article today, I think it was in one

1042
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: of the Boston papers where Kraft said that was the

1043
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: worst financial decision that he's made since he's owned the team.

1044
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: In terms of like the implications of letting Mayo gore staff.

1045
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I again, both coaching staffs. And we asked

1046
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 4: Greg Coseldi in the first hour, you know, I said

1047
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 4: which coaching staff has an edge? He was very neutral

1048
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 4: with that answer. I'll answer in my opinion, I think

1049
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: it's New England. I think Rabel and McDaniels and the

1050
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 4: coaching experience that the two of those guys have together.

1051
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: I think Trump's what Seattle has. And now I'm not

1052
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 4: taking anything away from Seattle. I think you've got Mike

1053
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 4: McDonald and Clint Kubiak, which are two of the most

1054
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: up and coming hot coaches in the NFL. Kubiak has

1055
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: been in Vegas all week, you know, I don't know

1056
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: if he's been there all week but he was in

1057
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 4: Vegas at one point interviewing for that job and getting

1058
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 4: ready to you know, take the new Raiders at coaching position,

1059
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 4: and Mike McDonald is trying to make history. There has

1060
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: never been a head coach win a Super Bowl who

1061
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 4: was also calling the defensive signals. Belichick wasn't calling the

1062
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 4: defensive signals. That was Flores, that was Patricia, Chuck Noll,

1063
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: Tom Landry, all these defensive coaches. First of all, that's

1064
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: a been a defensive mind a coach. It's won a

1065
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: Super Bowl since Belichick, which was almost ten years ago. Secondly,

1066
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 4: it is not an easy task to be the head

1067
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: coach of a team and call the defensive signals or

1068
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 4: the offensive signals. Frankly, I think both of those jobs

1069
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 4: should be delegated once you become a head coach. But

1070
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 4: I know that there's still some stubbornness about keeping the

1071
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: reins of those decisions.

1072
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: Well, they'll let you do it as long as you win,

1073
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: as long as doing it right and right now. And

1074
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: that's I guess the thirty thousand foot view of this.

1075
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 3: Right we look at Vrabel's experience as a player, We

1076
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 3: look at and we can talk all about the Tom

1077
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: Brady neutrality for those forty eight hours. I think some

1078
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: of it was he shielded his guys from more Hall

1079
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: of Fame slander as well as you know, looking at

1080
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: Kubiak going if we score three points, I gotta go

1081
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Speaker 3: introduce this guy as my new head coach.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get into that.

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Speaker 3: But when we look at it, it's the all, right,

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Speaker 3: is the experience of Rabel and what he's been through

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Speaker 3: as a player, what he's seen as a coach during

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Speaker 3: his time in Tennessee and bringing it back here to

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Speaker 3: New England and McDaniels, the number of different big time

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00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: performances that he's had to help orchestrate. How much more

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Speaker 3: value is that there versus McDonald and the staff. Not

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Speaker 3: that the guys don't have their experience, they've certainly been

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Speaker 3: around winning football. But it's the you don't know what

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Speaker 3: you don't know and can you compartmentalize that in a

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00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: big game. And the answer to that is every team,

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Speaker 3: every group of players, every individual is going to handle

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Speaker 3: that differently.

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Speaker 2: For all we know.

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Speaker 3: You know, Sam Donald comes out and he's Joe cool

1098
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Speaker 3: as opposed to the first time they played the Rams

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Speaker 3: this year, right where it was anything but and we

1100
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 3: can get into tip balls, and you know who gets

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Speaker 3: the blame on all these interceptions in the end, if

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Speaker 3: there's a four in the interception column, guess who takes

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Speaker 3: the brunt of it.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So all of that to say, it's just that interesting

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Speaker 3: dichotomy of experience and long in the tooth. And Rabel's

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00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: not an old man by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 3: His rookie card was nineteen ninety seven for those that

1109
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 3: are looking for those in the marketplace. But it's just

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00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: that idea of you know, you've got young staffs on

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00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: both sides, but one certainly much much more experience to

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Speaker 3: draw from in these big moments, to the point where

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Speaker 3: Rabel pulled his team off the field in workouts and

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00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: practices to simulate how long a halftime is, right, changing

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Speaker 3: up that schedule and played a bunch of bad Bunny

1116
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Speaker 3: songs there, which for a lot of the players it

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00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: seemed to cross the NFL might have been the first

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Speaker 3: time they actually heard bad Bunny.

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Speaker 4: And I'll be honest, I think and people gave him

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Speaker 4: a lot of crap for that online. I think that's

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00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: a good idea. There are two things that are different

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Speaker 4: about this game. Once the game starts, it's a game.

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Speaker 4: It's a game, and all the pomp and circumstance goes away.

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Speaker 4: Then you gotta play the game. But in the middle

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Speaker 4: of the game, there are two things that are significantly

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Speaker 4: different than when the regular season happens. A to halftime

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Speaker 4: is longer. B the commercials are longer. Yep, So there's

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Speaker 4: more of a cadence to the game, or I guess

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Speaker 4: I should say a slower cadence to the game than

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Speaker 4: any other game in the regular season or even the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: And unless you're ready for that, it can throw you

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Speaker 4: off a little bit. And I think that is it

1133
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 4: doesn't sound like it's like genius coaching, like hey, we're

1134
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: just gonna take a few extra minutes and go inside

1135
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Speaker 4: and just cool down. But doing that, at least the

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Speaker 4: athletes are prepared for. Because I actually don't know the

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Speaker 4: answer to this. How many players on the current rosters

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00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: of both teams have actually played in a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to this. I should know

1140
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 4: the answer to that. Maybe I can. You know, someone

1141
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 4: in the in the audience can can contweet at me

1142
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: in fact check me. But assuming there's probably not a

1143
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 4: lot right, because Seattle hasn't been there in a while,

1144
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 4: and I don't know New England has been there since

1145
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 4: the Brady days, so I would be surprised if there

1146
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: are really a lot of people on either roster that

1147
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 4: have experienced this, and I think for Vrabel, who has

1148
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 4: experienced it many times, it is a very smart idea

1149
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 4: to put his team through the exact pace and cadence

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Speaker 4: that this game will be played at.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 3: You've got the get in price at about thirty seven

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Speaker 3: we tagged back in Greg Cosel. We'll look at that

1170
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: Seattle offense. See what Sam Darnold and company and Clint Kubiak.

1171
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Speaker 3: How much did the interview process take away from what

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Speaker 3: they've been building or is it business as usual? We'll

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Speaker 3: talk with Greg. He rejoins us here on Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 3: back in Greg co well with us Greg, as we

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Speaker 3: were Injing, ever so much closer. This time, we want

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00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: to focus on the Seattle offense and the side of

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00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: the ball and something Jared and I were just talking about,

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Speaker 3: how much does Kubiak and the Raiders' job in waiting

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Speaker 3: factor into any of this.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I mean, that's impossible to know. I would doubt

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Speaker 6: very much. You know, the Seahawks have been a very

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Speaker 6: good offense this season. They've done their best work guys

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Speaker 6: out of twelve personnel, meaning one back, two tight ends,

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Speaker 6: two wide receivers. That's where they've done their best work

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Speaker 6: in both the run game and the pass game. In

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Speaker 6: the run game, they really like to attack the edges

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Speaker 6: with the outside zone concept. This to me is a

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Speaker 6: really intriguing part of the matchup because Mike Rabel when

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Speaker 6: he played, was a phenomenal edge setter for the Patriots,

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Speaker 6: and obviously I'm sure he's got Bill Belichick in his

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Speaker 6: brain talking about setting the edge, setting the edge, and

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Speaker 6: I'm really curious to see how that part of the

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Speaker 6: matchup plays out. The run game of the Seahawks attacking

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Speaker 6: the edges because Walker is really good at that, versus

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Speaker 6: the Patriots defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that play action right coming off of that, I

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Speaker 4: think is key as well. Seattle with a very high

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Speaker 4: undercenter rate, they're fantastic in play action. But the one

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Speaker 4: thing I noticed, Greg when I was looking at the

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Speaker 4: Patriots defense first and EPA against play action. So that's

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Speaker 4: an interesting chess match. How much can Seattle run it

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Speaker 4: effectively and how much will play action, you know, be

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Speaker 4: the counter off of that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well I think that Seattle will do that. That's

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Speaker 6: foundational to how they play and play action under center.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you mentioned that shared because I've always believed

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Speaker 6: and actually I saw a quote by Josh McDaniels this

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Speaker 6: season that basically echoed what I've been saying for years.

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Speaker 6: Not that you got it for me, obviously a lot

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Speaker 6: smarter than I am, but I always believed that under

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Speaker 6: center play action is far more effective than shotgun or

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Speaker 6: pistol play action, because is what is the point of

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Speaker 6: play action. It's to put second level defenders in conflict.

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Speaker 6: And the longer they don't know whether it's run or passed,

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Speaker 6: particularly if the action in the backfield looks the same,

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Speaker 6: which it tends to much more so with under center

1244
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Speaker 6: play action, the more difficult it is for them to

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Speaker 6: get a quick read on whether it's run or passed.

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Speaker 6: So Donald was phenomenal at it last year in Minnesota

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Speaker 6: because Kevin O'Connell did that, and they've been really really

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Speaker 6: good at this year in Seattle. And by the way,

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Speaker 6: that's one reason. I believe that once they hired Klint Kubiak,

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Speaker 6: they wants him sand Donald as their quarterback because he's very,

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Speaker 6: very good at it.

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Speaker 3: Seven point eight yards per Aaron Tampan here, he is

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Speaker 3: Aaron want out one of the.

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Speaker 2: X factors for today does a man city.

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Speaker 7: Pas Donald said, rays and he sticked up the dogs

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Speaker 7: over seas he that's a heck of a start, say for.

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Speaker 1: In mid season.

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Speaker 2: This is what he does, this vertical element.

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Speaker 4: He's opened by four yards and Darnold isn't gonna miss

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Speaker 4: that one early Williams a step late on the release,

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Speaker 4: Shaheed blows by him and.

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Speaker 2: There you have it, one of the big plays.

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Speaker 3: Talk about trying to contain JSN, but having other options

1264
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Speaker 3: including Shaheed not only as a returner but as that

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Speaker 3: deep threat gives them that extra element in the playbook

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Speaker 3: for a Kobiac.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that raises a really fascinating question. There's been a

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Speaker 6: lot of talk about Christian Gonzalez whether he will shadow

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Speaker 6: JSN in this game. They haven't done a lot of

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Speaker 6: that this season. Normally he plays to the boundary side,

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Speaker 6: the short side of the field. Could he will shadow JSN?

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Speaker 6: He could, Maybe it's not one hundred percent. That impacts

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Speaker 6: other defenders as well. It's not just hey, you got him.

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Speaker 6: It has a major impact on other defenders. That The

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Speaker 6: other factor regarding that is the Seahawks are very very

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Speaker 6: good with the use of pre snap movement. JSN is

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Speaker 6: used quite a bit in that way. He times to

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Speaker 6: line up in the backfield, so it's more difficult to

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Speaker 6: shadow when there's pre snap movement. So I'm very curious

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Speaker 6: to see how that plays out in this matchup.

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Speaker 4: Greg, Just how hard is the transition that JSN made

1282
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Speaker 4: this year? I mean he went from the two years

1283
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Speaker 4: with DK and Gino, you know, basically as a slot receiver,

1284
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 4: said eighty percent of the time. Now he's only in

1285
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Speaker 4: the slot about twenty percent of the time. They moved

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Speaker 4: around outside but back. How difficult is that? And then, oh,

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Speaker 4: by the way, one hundred percentile yards perat run this year.

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Speaker 4: Just an incredible transition.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, obviously they believe Jared he could do that,

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Speaker 6: because I remember when they signed Cooper Cup and so

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Speaker 6: many people said, oh, what are they doing now they

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Speaker 6: have two slot receivers, So they obviously knew that he

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Speaker 6: could do that in their minds. And plus the way

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Speaker 6: the league has evolved in the passing game, Jared, and

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you know this. There's so much pre snap

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Speaker 6: movement now, there's so much formation variation that very often

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Speaker 6: a receiver who owns up technically outside it still can

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Speaker 6: be very close to the formation. So it almost it

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Speaker 6: almost makes it seem by his split that he's really

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Speaker 6: in the slot even though he's the outside receiver. So

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Speaker 6: I think the game has changed in that way that

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Speaker 6: we don't think of guys with very few exceptions as

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Speaker 6: slot only receivers. And clearly JSN has been able to

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Speaker 6: do that because, as I said, keep in mind, they

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Speaker 6: play a lot at a twelve personnel, so very often

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Speaker 6: you know when they have a balanced formation, he's outside.

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Speaker 6: And as you said, and you're one hundred percent right,

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Speaker 6: eighty percent of his snaps this year have been as

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Speaker 6: a quote unquote outside receiver.

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Speaker 3: Now another curiosity, go back to Kenneth Walker for a second,

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Speaker 3: talk about setting the edge as a as a runner.

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Speaker 3: But we've also seen Sam Darnald look his way a

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Speaker 3: bit more.

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Speaker 8: We got to be very aggressive offensively with some runs

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Speaker 8: in playoffs.

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Speaker 7: Your pass like this ternal pressure Rosener side and his

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Speaker 7: plot five Walker press the topic great move tennith Walker

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Speaker 7: still up to the twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five so nine catches the final three regular season games,

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Speaker 3: he had thirty one for the entire year, and then

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Speaker 3: he's seven for seven thus far in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: G Yeah, and they've used him a little more in

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Speaker 6: the conventional screen game. He's not really a wide receiver

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Speaker 6: back that you necessarily detached very often, like a Bijon Robinson,

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Speaker 6: for instance, but you can definitely use him in a

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Speaker 6: screen game. He's an explosive player, so you want to

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Speaker 6: get him the ball where there's space. That's one reason

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Speaker 6: they use him well on the outside. But I think

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Speaker 6: it's important to mention guys. In the last oh, i'd

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Speaker 6: say five or six weeks, he's become a much tougher

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Speaker 6: inside runner. He's gotten the hard yards much more so

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Speaker 6: than early in his career, and I think that that's

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Speaker 6: in a game like this, every yard matters, you know.

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Speaker 6: I learned that from Merrill Hodge years and years ago

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Speaker 6: when I worked with him. You know, every yard matters.

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Speaker 6: You know, second and seven is a big deal in

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Speaker 6: this game, as opposed to second and ten or second

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Speaker 6: and eleven. So that's something he's done exceptionally well or

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Speaker 6: much better than he did early in his career, hitting

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Speaker 6: it up in there and getting those tough, hard yards. Greg.

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Speaker 4: Something you mentioned that that stood out to me the

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Speaker 4: amount of twelve personnel at Seattle runs, which means there's

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Speaker 4: going to be some tight ends on the field in

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Speaker 4: this game. AJ Barner is a guy that's really come

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Speaker 4: on in the playoffs. I was actually surprised he has

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Speaker 4: the second most routes run against zone coverage of any

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Speaker 4: tight end in the playoffs, just behind Colston Lovelin, who

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Speaker 4: obviously is like basically receiver at this point, right, Barner

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Speaker 4: maybe a bit of a hidden factor in this game.

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Speaker 4: Talking all about JSN Kenneth Walker, but AJ Barner is

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Speaker 4: a heck of a receiver.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny to say that. And he predominantly lines

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01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 6: up as an attached player. He's not really a split player.

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Speaker 6: So I think something like seventy five eighty percent of

1355
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 6: his snaps he's been attached, meaning he's next to the tackle.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's tight to the formation. But he does

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Speaker 6: work the middle of the field well. And now you

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Speaker 6: get into, you know, working against line backer safeties, and

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Speaker 6: I think the safeties for the Patriots have not been

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01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 6: talked about enough. To be honest with you, I think

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Speaker 6: that Woodson, who's a rookie this season, fourth round pick

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Speaker 6: from Cal and Hawkins. I think those guys have played

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Speaker 6: really well. They're interchangeable. They both can play in the box,

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Speaker 6: they both can play on the back end. I think

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Speaker 6: they've played really really well, as of course as their

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Speaker 6: soft corner Marcus Jones.

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Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about their defense throughout the year, Greg,

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Speaker 3: and you know, a lot of the national narrative these

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Speaker 3: last couple of weeks keep pointing back to the schedule

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Speaker 3: that New England played.

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Speaker 2: I would remind folks, if.

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Speaker 3: You want to go back through a lot outside of

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Speaker 3: the Rams, a lot of the opponents that they played

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Speaker 3: down the stretch did the Seahawks were not exactly the

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01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: heavyweights of the National Football League. So maybe you know

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Speaker 3: some of the temperance there and maybe why we look

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: at the betting line being what it is.

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Speaker 2: I know that's not.

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Speaker 3: Your purview, but in terms of trying to sort through

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Speaker 3: the noise and reality as to how good this defense

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Speaker 3: truly is.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you're talking about the Patriots, talking.

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Speaker 3: About the Patriots defense that, Yeah, for the course of

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Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. Right, you've seen the graphics,

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01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 3: here's the number of coaches that got fired, and then

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Speaker 3: there's the Jets and Aaron Glenn still sitting there.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, that can have ever been higher?

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Speaker 3: Right, and things to where it's been a dismissiveness versus

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Speaker 3: an actual analysis of what they've done because they still

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Speaker 3: have to go win games, and they've played and they've

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Speaker 3: gone through the playoffs and done this. So I think

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Speaker 3: you know, from your eye sorting through the noise of

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Speaker 3: you know what you've seen, take.

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Speaker 6: You know what. I've been doing this a long time, Mike,

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01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 6: as you know, and you know, every coach will tell

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Speaker 6: you how hard it is to win on Sunday. I

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Speaker 6: don't necessarily get into that. I look at the defense,

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Speaker 6: you know, I isolate the defense and look what they do.

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Speaker 6: See the players. They've got a lot of good players

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Speaker 6: on defense. Now, maybe they're not nationally known or they're

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01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 6: getting a lot of publicity of course at Super Bowl

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01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 6: week so more so than ever obviously, but Barmore and

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01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 6: Williams are really good inside. I mean, and they've got

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 6: a great detackle rotation with Dirden and Tonga. You know,

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Speaker 6: I really like Robertsplane. He's been a really solid, good

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Speaker 6: linebacker wherever he's been. I think most people would say

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Speaker 6: that Gonzales and Davers are quality corners. Some would say

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 6: Gonzales is a top five corner in the league. You

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Speaker 6: can line him up against anybody. This is a good defense,

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Speaker 6: And over the last oh six seven weeks, they've really

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Speaker 6: increased their pressure quot and they've played more man coverage.

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Speaker 6: Now again, with two weeks to prepare, Mike Rabel and

1413
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 6: staff will figure out in their mind the best way

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Speaker 6: to play against the Seahawks offense. But that's what they've

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Speaker 6: done over the last six seven weeks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Donald's improvement against pressure something that that has stood

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Speaker 4: out to me. Sixty nine percent adjusted accuracy rate under pressure.

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Speaker 4: That's the highest of his career. Just just how much

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Speaker 4: improvement has he made since the early parts of his career.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's funny. I mean, Donald's always been

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01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 6: a really gifted player with high level traits. If people

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Speaker 6: lose sight of that, and I know there's probably a

1423
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 6: segment out there and we have no idea how the

1424
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 6: game will play out that are just waiting for Sam

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Speaker 6: Darnold to throw you know, a pick in an inopportune moment.

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Speaker 6: But he's played really, really well. He's an aggressive thrower

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 6: and I like that. You know, that's a personal thing

1428
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 6: with me. I think in the NFL, you've got to

1429
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 6: make throws. Now, it depends on the game situation. And

1430
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 6: by the way, he's handled game situations extremely well, because

1431
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 6: there have been games this year, late in the season,

1432
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 6: in the playoffs when he's not had to throw the

1433
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 6: ball many times, and he's taking care of the ball

1434
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 6: really well. He's understood, you know, game management, which by

1435
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 6: the way, is not a negative term. Now we don't

1436
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 6: know how this game will be. I think it'll likely

1437
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 6: be a little more defensive in its nature. It wouldn't

1438
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 6: surprise me if it's seventy to three in the middle

1439
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,440
Speaker 6: of the second quarter. Of course, you can never predict turnovers.

1440
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 6: You can never predict you know, that one big play

1441
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 6: that can happen. But I would find it, Jared, I

1442
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 6: don't know how you see it. I don't think there's

1443
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 6: going to be a lot of eleven twelve, thirteen play

1444
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 6: eighty yard touchdown drive in this game.

1445
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think it's gonna be a

1446
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 4: lower scoring game.

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Speaker 6: I do. I do so, But but Darnold played well.

1448
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 6: I mean, look like I said, depending on game situation.

1449
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 6: You know, you get in these games and you get

1450
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 6: into the third and fourth quarter, and depending on score,

1451
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 6: when it's third and nine, you got to make throws.

1452
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 6: You know, you can't be in checkdown mode.

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01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: You got to make throws, old rule of thumb.

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Speaker 3: Smith and I do the show, Jason and I seven

1455
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 3: to eleven Pacific every night, Greg, Jared. All we hope

1456
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 3: for is that there's some chaos inside the white lines

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01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 3: and that it's close late. That's all. Otherwise, let's go.

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01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 3: Do you do you have a prediction for the fight, Greg?

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01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 3: Before we let you go?

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Speaker 6: Well, I've had to do that all week, as you

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01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 6: can imagine, and I had to do it on my

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01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 6: matchup show, Mike. So I picked Seattle to win. You know, again,

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Speaker 6: you never know, but I see this like a twenty

1464
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 6: three twenty twenty three seventeen kind of game. I'd be

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01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 6: very surprised again barring you know, returns. You know, Marcus

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01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 6: Jones is a great return man. SI, he's a great

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01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 6: return man. You never know about turnover. But I don't

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01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 6: see this as a thirty five thirty two game. But

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Speaker 6: you never know.

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Speaker 3: We are blessed to have you Greg. It's been a

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Speaker 3: fantastic run. Enjoy the game from the stands. I'll keep

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Speaker 3: my eyes peeled and my binoculars close to see if

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 3: I can see you.

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Speaker 6: All right, well, i'll be I think I'll be pretty

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01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 6: high up. I'll probably be pretty close to the flag pole.

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Speaker 3: Not a bad way to be. Enjoy the vantage point.

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01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 3: Great place to see a game, a concert. We appreciate

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01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: you at Greg co cell. I'll talk to you during

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Speaker 3: the week, my friend. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 6: All right, thanks, guys, really appreciate it there.

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Speaker 2: It is the best.

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Speaker 3: It's Greg Cosell, NFL Films, the Matchup show. You hear

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Speaker 3: him with Ross Tucker and of course every week Thursday

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Speaker 3: is one pm Eastern with Colin Coward Appointment Viewing. You know,

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Speaker 3: Colin extoles it as the best fifteen to twenty gets.

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Speaker 3: We all get a little bit smarter, like we're doing

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Speaker 3: with you, doing some film review here with you, Jared.

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 3: As we get ready, we got a couple of prop

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Speaker 3: bets and some other angles we want to get to

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Speaker 3: before it's done. First, it's time to go to the

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Speaker 3: news desk. He's lathered up and ready to go. It's

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Speaker 3: our guy, Isaac Lowing God.

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Speaker 2: Good morning fellows.

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Speaker 9: We'll start with the women's downhill at the Winter Olympics

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Speaker 9: today as American Lindsay Vaughan crashed just thirteen seconds into

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Speaker 9: a run. She was competing on a torn ecl that

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Speaker 9: she suffered just nine days ago.

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Speaker 4: Keep it on.

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Speaker 1: That left mee because.

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Speaker 5: These are the times the towns that are gonna go down.

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Speaker 5: Lindsay Fund is down. Had a big crash from Lindsey felt.

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Speaker 5: That's an absolute disaster. That's what everybody was afraid of.

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Speaker 5: But that was the risk that Lindsay Fund was swinning

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Speaker 5: to take. That everybody holds that.

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Speaker 9: Brett Von had to be airlifted off the course. American

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Speaker 9: Breezy Johnson wound up winning the gold medal. In the NFL,

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Speaker 9: the Chicago Bears promoted passing game coordinator Press Taylor to

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Speaker 9: offensive coordinator. Atlanta Falcons rookie linebacker James Pierce Junior was

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Speaker 9: arrested yesterday in Florida on domestic violence chargers of aggravated

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Speaker 9: battery with a deadly weapon and aggravated stalking. Pierce was

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Speaker 9: also charged with fleeing and eluding police and aggravated battery

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Speaker 9: of a law enforcement officer in the NBA. On Saturday night,

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Speaker 9: Denver won at Chicago one thirty six to one twenty.

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Speaker 9: Nikola Jokic twenty two points, seventeen rebounds fourteen assists for

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Speaker 9: the one hundred and eighty second triple double of his career,

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Speaker 9: passing Oscar Robertson for second most on the NBA's all

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Speaker 9: time list behind Russell Westbrook. Finally, this one's for you,

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Speaker 9: Harmon the what do you got for me?

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Speaker 2: The sweater vest warned by Mike Ditka.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, when the Bears won Super Bowl twenty has sold

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Speaker 9: at auction for one hundred and eighty three thousand dollars

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Speaker 9: and good news for the winner, shipping and handling will

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Speaker 9: cost only nineteen dollars. Congratulations Mike.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know who bought it for me, but

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to find out. If you guys all

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Speaker 3: got into it, go fund yourself to do that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 9: Thank you well you got you got all the letters right,

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Speaker 9: But two praps, I'm just kidding by job.

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Speaker 3: Say loving family we have here at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Chrispher Bed on the ones and twos.

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Speaker 3: We've got Brandon, our executive producer, Jared, and I do

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Speaker 3: appreciate you all. As we outlined at the start of

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Speaker 3: the show, I mean we are blessed to do this

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Speaker 3: and kick off a big Super Bowl Sunday following of

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Speaker 3: course Andy and Bucky earlier this morning, and we'll hand

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Speaker 3: it off to the Countdown to Kickoff presented by bet

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Speaker 3: MGM guys coming up in about fifteen minutes. We've got

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Speaker 3: a couple more prop bets, a couple more angles that

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Speaker 3: we want to explore. I'm going to go try to

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Speaker 3: find out who the buyer was and see if I

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Speaker 3: can try it on just once and behold the power

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Speaker 3: of Ditka.

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Speaker 2: More on that as we go.

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Speaker 3: It's Countdown to Kickoff coming by bet on GM in

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Speaker 3: fifteen But first we've got our Fox Football Sunday, Fox

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Speaker 3: Super Sunday predictions for the game, and a couple more

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Speaker 3: props that we want to do as we can do.

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Speaker 3: Smith Bets for.

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Speaker 2: All of his meanderings is pod musings.

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Speaker 3: As the day goes on, as he gets closer to

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Speaker 3: kickoff and keeps going back through page eighty four of

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Speaker 3: stuff all around thanks to Greg Cosel. He's going to

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Speaker 3: be in attendance for this one. Can't wait for the

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Speaker 3: breakdown from him as the week goes on afterwards. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he'll be live tweeting what he's seeing, even

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Speaker 3: if I try to go to him into doing such Jared,

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Speaker 3: certainly you and I will as we watch this game unfold,

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01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 3: so many great storylines. As we've talked about this morning

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Speaker 3: and with Greg that you have a number of players who,

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01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 3: if you're a quote football person, you know the names, right.

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01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 3: Gonzales certainly one of the marquee players in this When

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Speaker 3: you look at the new England defense, bar more for

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Speaker 3: some positives, some negatives, you may know his name through

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Speaker 3: it all. And then you look at Sam Darnold and

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Speaker 3: JSN really the two headliners on the other side, everybody

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Speaker 3: else looking to make their name, looking to make their bones.

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Speaker 3: Cooper Cup back on a big stage, and his role

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Speaker 3: has increased a bit. We were talking with Greg Gosel

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Speaker 3: a little bit. AJ Barner is in curiosity for me.

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Speaker 3: Eleven rushing attempts on the year, his rushing total.

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Speaker 2: Zero point five yards. Do we get a tush push situation?

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Speaker 4: Becomes the question, I mean, I don't hate that, Bet.

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Speaker 4: I think Barner's receiving yards prop is something that I like.

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Speaker 4: We mentioned that he has the most second most excuse me,

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Speaker 4: routes run against zone coverage. This year, Pats play a

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Speaker 4: ton of zone and in the playoffs again, he has

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Speaker 4: been more involved in the offense. I think mac Hollins

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Speaker 4: is a guy I would look to on the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: So there's two receivers on the Patriots side. I like

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Speaker 4: in this game. Okay, mac Hollins twenty percent target share

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Speaker 4: against two ice safeties. This season, Seahawks play a ton

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Speaker 4: of two high safeties. I think Holland's a guy that

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Speaker 4: started to come on, and the fact that he was

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Speaker 4: injured in the regular season makes me think the market

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Speaker 4: might not be fully up to speed on him. The

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Speaker 4: other thing I noticed on tape is Kayshawn Booty. So

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Speaker 4: the way that Seattle plays their man coverage looks is

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Speaker 4: when they do is when they're up against a three

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Speaker 4: by one set, so three receivers on one side, one

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Speaker 4: receiver on the other side. What Seattle will do what

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Speaker 4: they've done on tape. They did it against the Rams.

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Speaker 4: They will man up that single receiver on the outside

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Speaker 4: and that's Kaisehan Boody spot. And we've seen Drake may

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Speaker 4: be very effective this year throwing deep vertical routes down

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Speaker 4: the field against man coverage on the outside. Booty had

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Speaker 4: a big catch a couple of weeks ago. A few

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Speaker 4: weeks ago in the Texans game. I think that might

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Speaker 4: be an interesting lightning strike scenario. So I think Kaishaon

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Speaker 4: Boody over seventeen and a half yards for his longest reception.

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Speaker 4: If he makes a catch in the game, it's going

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Speaker 4: to be a deep shot. I think it's going to

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Speaker 4: be single coverage on the outside.

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Speaker 3: Near Exit twenty one on the highways there towards Medford

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Speaker 3: and Summerville. They have the digital signs on the road

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Speaker 3: that say may M A y E, you get your

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Speaker 3: booty bou double te as we go. We keep it

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Speaker 3: clean here on a Sunday morning, to and from services.

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Speaker 3: Wherever you're going. However you're listening, we appreciate you as

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Speaker 3: you roll through. It's Kiria, just the secondary receivers usage.

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Speaker 3: I thought Henderson was interesting as we talked with Greg

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Speaker 3: co Sellen and you and I suss this out over

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Speaker 3: the course of the morning. His rushing and receiving yardage

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Speaker 3: total is only in the mid twenties.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I saw Mike Rabel say he's gonna

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Speaker 4: give Henderson a more of a run in this game.

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Speaker 4: I just don't see Rabel giving away his game plan

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Speaker 4: like that before the game.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like them talking about shadowing JSN.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I what my usual vibe is when a

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Speaker 4: coach comes out and says something the week of week

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Speaker 4: before the game, it's usually the opposite. And I just

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Speaker 4: don't know how much the Patriots Truss Henderson. Now that

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Speaker 4: being said, he is another one of those guys that

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Speaker 4: could be a lightning strike, but I would be a

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Speaker 4: little more hesitant with him on the overs.

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Speaker 3: All right, you got any of the wild over under

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Speaker 3: prop bets that you were looking at the open market.

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Speaker 2: In the final ten seconds.

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Speaker 4: Patriots over punts three and a half, right, not yet

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Speaker 4: three and a half? Both teams not to score in

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Speaker 4: the first quarter. That's a juicy one. I like it.

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Speaker 3: There you go, check out had Jared Smith Betts got me.

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Speaker 3: It's warming up. Coming up next, it's Countdown to kick

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Speaker 3: Off presented by bet MGM.

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Speaker 2: Have a great Super Bowl Sunday, folks. Thanks