WEBVTT - The Science of Cute

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey are welcome to Stuff to Blow

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<v Speaker 1>your Mind. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie

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<v Speaker 1>Kai E Douglas. Oh yeah, that's your your new nickname now,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to try it out. Kawai kai. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't think that people usually call

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<v Speaker 1>me cute that, which is what kawaii essentially means in Japanese.

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<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, what is it? What is cute? What does

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<v Speaker 1>it mean to be cute as a person is a thing? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that label mean within our culture? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the United States it's more of an outward appearance,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas in Japanese culture it is sort of this whole

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<v Speaker 1>industrial complex of absolute cuteness. Yes, yes, definitely in Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>kauai is big business and has been for for decades now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly cute holds a lot of power here in

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<v Speaker 1>the States as well throughout most of the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I mean, even just looking around in this room,

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<v Speaker 1>we can see some little bits of cute peking their way,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a there's a wooden monkey over there on

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<v Speaker 1>Noel's desk. There's Pablo Picasso in his underwear. Picture of

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<v Speaker 1>Pablo Picasso is underway. Yes, I don't know how cute

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<v Speaker 1>that is, but but the monkey's cute to eliminate extent,

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<v Speaker 1>the dinosaur is cute. And if you go around our death,

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<v Speaker 1>like any workplace, you're gonna find various totems of cute,

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<v Speaker 1>various little, uh little icons of cuteness that just some

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<v Speaker 1>degree empower the individual who has it. That's right. So

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to explore this concept of kauai e

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna do it through a couple of different

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<v Speaker 1>vectors here, one of which is, of course, uh, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big exports of the Internet, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about porn, but the other thing cats cats. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So it should come as no surprise anyone that, of

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<v Speaker 1>course the Internet is full of cat videos, cat photos,

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<v Speaker 1>cat memes, images, gifts, you name it. I mean, in

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<v Speaker 1>any given day, you're probably bombarded with at least two

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<v Speaker 1>or three of these things, right, and if you act

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<v Speaker 1>actively seeking them out, if you're actively consuming them, then

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<v Speaker 1>there's no end in sight. You could get on a

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<v Speaker 1>kick one day and just keep going that you starve

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<v Speaker 1>to death. You could you would just fall down that

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<v Speaker 1>cat wormhole and and you're right, you can fill your

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<v Speaker 1>head with with all these sorts of images. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>there is an artificial neural network that Google's ex Laboratory

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<v Speaker 1>and Stanford University have been working on. And again, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a large scale neural network. It's distributed across sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand process of course, and researchers trained models with more

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<v Speaker 1>than one billion connections. And they found that this network,

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<v Speaker 1>when it sort of ran off on its own, it

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<v Speaker 1>learned how to identify a cat after a week of

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<v Speaker 1>watching YouTube videos. That is how prevalent this subject is

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet. Yeah, they fit at random thumbnails of images,

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<v Speaker 1>each one extracted from ten million YouTube big eos. And

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<v Speaker 1>it ends up having to basically invent the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>the cat in processing all of this data, figuring out right,

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<v Speaker 1>what's at the heart of this? What is this about?

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<v Speaker 1>What is what? What? What is all this data telling me?

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<v Speaker 1>It is telling me this is a cat, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the form of the cat, and uh and and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then everything else stems from that. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>have someone like philosopher Dan Dennett, who who's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>these sort of super normal stimuli, and he's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>super normal stimuli like chocolate cake. He's saying that there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain things in our environment that we see that

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<v Speaker 1>really get us ramped up, and that cats, babies, these

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<v Speaker 1>all maybe the sort of super stimuli that works UM

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<v Speaker 1>on this sort of evolution and instinctual preference. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at a chocolate cake, for instance, Um, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a high energy food, right, You like the chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>cake not because it's chocolate cake, but because you know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to be a huge shot of glucose,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, from an evolutionary perspective, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be helpful for us to have stores with that, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because in the ancient past, of course, a big chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>cake was hard to come by, or certainly that much sugar,

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<v Speaker 1>that much energy in one place was hard to come by.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to jump on it. And uh, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate cake example is great too because if anyone remembers

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<v Speaker 1>back to our episodes on decision fatigue UM and in

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<v Speaker 1>neural load and how that how we carry that through

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<v Speaker 1>the day. The experiments that studied it, Uh, most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time they seem to incorporate chocolate cake in one

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<v Speaker 1>form another, using that as the temptation as to your

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<v Speaker 1>to your willpower to your your problem solving ability. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens when we throw a chocolate cake in

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<v Speaker 1>your direction. Not literally, uh though that would be awesome

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but but we'll put it in your vicinity

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<v Speaker 1>and see how it affects your brain power and low behold,

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<v Speaker 1>it just really tinkered with people's ability to think rationally. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because suddenly I have to at least resist it. And

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<v Speaker 1>in a way, it's like I have to fight that

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate cake. It's like it's like you're going through a

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<v Speaker 1>dungeon and you're trying to get to the treasure. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you have to fight a troll along the way. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing, except the battles taking place inside your

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<v Speaker 1>mind as you try to resist the irresistible glucose temptation

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<v Speaker 1>of the cake. So Dannatt would say that a super

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<v Speaker 1>normal stimuli for cuteness, of course, would be babies. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's important that we love babies that will not be

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<v Speaker 1>put off by saying messy diapers. He says, so babies

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<v Speaker 1>have to attract our affection in our nurturing, and they do.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's when you begin to really look at

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<v Speaker 1>not just babies, but cats and puppies and really anything

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<v Speaker 1>that embodies this idea of innocence and vulnerability and and

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of parental instinct that we'll talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about. But this is this idea that cats

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps have arrested our attention because of this instinct because

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<v Speaker 1>they look like babies essentially, and then play it up

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<v Speaker 1>to as we've discussed before, crying in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>mimics the cries of a baby, et cetera. Yes, now

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention this because we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>go dive into this kawaii or going to dive more

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<v Speaker 1>into cats and the culture of cats on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's something called cute aggression, and I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, part of me is sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one eyebrow raised about this study and it just sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a tumbler page. It's actually a study actually theory. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rebecca Dyer, she's a grad student psychology at Yale University,

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<v Speaker 1>took one nine people and she had them look at

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of animals. The categories were cute, funny, and neutral

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<v Speaker 1>photos actually specifically of puppies, and then the participants rated

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<v Speaker 1>how they felt about the pictures agreeing or disagreeing with

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<v Speaker 1>statements like I just can't handle it, meaning the cuteness um,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether whether or not it made them want to

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze something, or if they were seized with the impulse

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<v Speaker 1>to vocalize after seeing one of these pictures like so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>So researchers found that the cute or the animal, the

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<v Speaker 1>more aggressive the response. Okay, okay, So now they follow

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<v Speaker 1>up with a non verbal study and participants. Participants are

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<v Speaker 1>given bubble wrap and they're told to just go to

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<v Speaker 1>town with it, okay, and they watch a slide show

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<v Speaker 1>of cute and then funny and then neutral pictures of animals,

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<v Speaker 1>and then lo and behold. Which you find is that

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<v Speaker 1>more bubbles were popped during the cute slide shows as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to the funny pictures of animals or the neutral

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of animals. Now, the data is not that crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're talking about hundred and twenty pops for

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<v Speaker 1>the cuteness um, eight pops for the funny, and only

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred or excuse me, and one hundred for the neutral.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, the data Here's not like putting this

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<v Speaker 1>this strong information out there to say like people are

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<v Speaker 1>just bursting with cute aggression. And you know, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are saying, Rebecca Dye or at least is saying it

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<v Speaker 1>could be the sort of pent up frustration at not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to reach through those photos and cuddle that

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<v Speaker 1>baby or that puppy because you just want to touch it,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to bite it. Well, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about the before. How how sometimes there are

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<v Speaker 1>these there are people who will say that baby is

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<v Speaker 1>so cute, I just want to eat it. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>on some level, you you actually do. On some level,

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<v Speaker 1>you're being fooled into into equating the baby's cuteness and

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<v Speaker 1>the face of the baby, the shape of the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>the baby nous of the creature. Equating it with something

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<v Speaker 1>you would actually gorge on is found in the barest,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of awful. Yeah. Alright, well, on that note,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should take a break here and when we

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<v Speaker 1>get back we'll get more into this idea of quite

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're back. You know, another thing about that study,

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<v Speaker 1>I had never heard of a study using the bubble

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<v Speaker 1>wrap uh method before. I really hope that become standardized

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where we see movies about serial killers

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<v Speaker 1>where like a potential serial killer is being forced to

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<v Speaker 1>look at, you know, accident photos gets a rise out

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<v Speaker 1>of him. And so it's like, you know, and Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Hopkins Hannibal like characters sitting there with the grim face,

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<v Speaker 1>watching grim footage and then popping bubble rap, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just becomes really so much a part of how we

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<v Speaker 1>determine unconscious thoughts that even the CIA begins to use it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just just orders with like vast reams of the stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then people are probably more willing participants because who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't love to pop bubble wrap? Everyone? Everyone loves it,

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<v Speaker 1>even dogs love it. Sure it's not as fine, all right. Kawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>Um we we touched on it at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode, but I kind of see it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>very reductionist because it really we could do an entire

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on Japanese culture in kawaii, but um, it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of this Hello Kitty ization is certainly the the easiest

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<v Speaker 1>example and certainly the most widespread example of of Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>culture Kawaii cute culture because it's it's everywhere now, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's the big eyes, it's the cute creature

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<v Speaker 1>and it and it also has this sort of Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>school girl quality to it. And then that's, according to

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<v Speaker 1>some cultural historians, that's kind of the the origin of

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<v Speaker 1>the Kauaii movement in Japan anyway, that it you go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the nineteen seventies, you find this kitten writing,

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<v Speaker 1>this cute handwriting they call it among schools, right because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really all that readaful. I mean, it got,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to the point where it's just big round

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<v Speaker 1>characters and faces and stars and uh and the and

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<v Speaker 1>the teacher who was saying, no, this is not actual writing.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it blows up. It starts showing up in

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<v Speaker 1>comic I mean not in common boost been magazines, but

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<v Speaker 1>then ultimately in Magna and other forms, and eventually becomes

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<v Speaker 1>this huge industry with stuff like Hello Kitty, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just all over the world and and and attached to

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<v Speaker 1>so many different products. Yeah, and if you look really

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<v Speaker 1>deeply into kauai, you will begin to see that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the products the clothing, um even food items,

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<v Speaker 1>or even some of the logos that are on airplanes

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<v Speaker 1>in some um government entities, but it's also behavior and

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<v Speaker 1>mannerism among both genders. And it really is this preoccupation

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<v Speaker 1>with um not just cuteness, but youth and innocence. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's this, uh, sort of an arrested development. I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it that way, not the TV show, but in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of, you know, trying to stave off aging and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the sort of responsibility and perhaps the less

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<v Speaker 1>fun aspects of life as you get older. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then probably encapsulates a lot of nostalgia as well, because

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<v Speaker 1>you grow older, you end up still catching attaching these

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<v Speaker 1>cute icons in this qualification of just about every aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of life, and therefore you keep it kind of tethered

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<v Speaker 1>to youth and tethered to youth culture. You know what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about that too, is that if you seize onto

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of kai and you see them to this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of embodying these aspects of cuteness and big eidness

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<v Speaker 1>and innocence, then perhaps in a way you're thinking to

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<v Speaker 1>yourself on a subconscious level, at least you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>will be more protected out there in society, which then

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<v Speaker 1>brings up this whole idea of you know, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we really how much of this parental response is responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for our behavior in the way that we interact with

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<v Speaker 1>things that are cute. Now, another bit of Japanese cuteness

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<v Speaker 1>that instantly comes to mind is the the lucky cat.

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<v Speaker 1>If you find all you find it all over Asia,

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<v Speaker 1>and you you find it increasingly everywhere in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States as well. Of course, the little generally like a

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<v Speaker 1>gold plastic cat, big eyes and it's it's waving its

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<v Speaker 1>little paw in the air. Uh. These are officially called

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<v Speaker 1>maneki nicko or beckoning cats. And I was looking up

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff back because I'm well, how does that tie

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<v Speaker 1>into cute culture? Because as I suspected, that's older in

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<v Speaker 1>its roots than the Hello Kitty. It dates back to

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<v Speaker 1>the the Edo period, which was between a sixteen o

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<v Speaker 1>three and eighteen sixties seven. Uh, And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of picked up steam over time. So even

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<v Speaker 1>though we look at the kitten writing in the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>and and the rise of Hello Kitty is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the real um pivotal aspects of Hawaii, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that the roots were already there, if if nowhere else

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<v Speaker 1>in the presence of cats. I think you're right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have this idea of you know, the thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>years from now, well people look back at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a saying, oh, the Ming dynasty thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of the Hello Kiddy dynasty, Because that really

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<v Speaker 1>is how pervasive kauai is. And I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States here were we have flavors of it um

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just look around, as you say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we look around our office and we can

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<v Speaker 1>see that it's it's um interwoven into the way that

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<v Speaker 1>we decorate or we perceive certain aspects we have our life.

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<v Speaker 1>At least two adult members of the staff who are

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<v Speaker 1>Disney fanatics, and there's a lot of kauai tied up there.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, just about every other death has some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of token, some sort of little bit of kauai. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like if you look closely enough, if you root

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<v Speaker 1>through their stuff, I mean really get in there and

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<v Speaker 1>in their privacy, you'll find some bit of cute that

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<v Speaker 1>is keeping them going. And that sounds kind of specific.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you found? Oh, all sorts of stuff. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>show you later. I have a box. Okay, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably wondering to yourself, are there any studies that can

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<v Speaker 1>support this cuteness, that can kind of give us a

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<v Speaker 1>better idea of why we react to this stuff the

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<v Speaker 1>way we do. Of course there is because you know

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about cute. We're talking about the way

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<v Speaker 1>that of kitten's face is cute to us because it

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<v Speaker 1>is reminiscent of the baby's face. And then what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at the baby, right, that's the question. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been studies that have looked at that. We

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<v Speaker 1>have the technology, of course to look inside the brain

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<v Speaker 1>to see how what kind of neural activity is going

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<v Speaker 1>on when we do different things. And there was there's

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<v Speaker 1>one particular study that we're looking at here, uh and

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<v Speaker 1>this was this involved the use of a meg scanner

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<v Speaker 1>and they were looking at parental responses to both puppy

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<v Speaker 1>faces and baby faces and then unfamiliar adult faces. Right, yes, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The really startling thing about this study is that when

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<v Speaker 1>participants looking at all of these pictures within one seventh

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<v Speaker 1>of a second, just a split second, literally, the medial

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<v Speaker 1>orbital frontal cortex, which is involved in emotional responses, lit

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<v Speaker 1>up like a pinball machine when people look at infant

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<v Speaker 1>and puppy faces, but was pretty, you know, relatively silent

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<v Speaker 1>when adult faces showed up. So kringele Bach Morton Kringelbach,

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<v Speaker 1>who ran the study calls this the parental instinct, and

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<v Speaker 1>he says these responses are almost certainly too fast to

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<v Speaker 1>be consciously controlled and are therefore perhaps instinctive. That's his

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<v Speaker 1>idea about it. Yeah, because we're talking about middleseconds here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about just an instant of seeing that baby face,

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<v Speaker 1>that puppy face, and you are suddenly pacified. You suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>you're maybe put out of an aggressive spirit or irritated spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to somehow help the poor larval human

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<v Speaker 1>or dog. Yeah. And the thing is that it even

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<v Speaker 1>goes beyond visual processing, because people who are blowing from

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<v Speaker 1>birth have the same areas activated in their brains when

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<v Speaker 1>they hear the name of animals. So the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>animals or how we've painted them and language just goes

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<v Speaker 1>far beyond just pictures. Here. The idea is really standing

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<v Speaker 1>in for um, the experience. So that study makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense. I mean again, it just ties in

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<v Speaker 1>directly to the way we look at look at an infant,

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<v Speaker 1>at a kitten, at a puppy and uh and and

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<v Speaker 1>how we instantly want to care for it on some level.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like we all buy into that really easily.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's another idea that two twelve Japanese study looked at,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one was published in the Plos One. They

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<v Speaker 1>were asking, well, if I look at something cute, how

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<v Speaker 1>does it affect my attentiveness? Which which that question makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think of all these things that we were We

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<v Speaker 1>surround ourselves with these icons of cute, Like the cute

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<v Speaker 1>little lamp that I have on my desk. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a little face um that I got an I kea

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. What happens when I look at that? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it making me more relax? Is it making me more atentive?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a just a distraction? Is all this cutest

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction? Well, in this study they looked into this.

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<v Speaker 1>They took participants and they viewed animal images and then

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<v Speaker 1>they tested them to see how they performed on various tasks,

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<v Speaker 1>and they found that participants who viewed infant animal images,

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<v Speaker 1>ones that were rated particularly cute, they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>perform pass better than those who viewed images of boring

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<v Speaker 1>adult animals. So it's interesting, right, because you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>is it really possible that if I look at a

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<v Speaker 1>cute object or a cute picture that I'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to better? You know, concentrate on the task before me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would indeed hang in there as the cute

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<v Speaker 1>cat hanging from the branch. I would want to to

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<v Speaker 1>to convey to you. I like, how you get that?

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<v Speaker 1>That was nice stuff? Um. But the thing is is

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<v Speaker 1>that each group of participants consisted of less than fifty

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<v Speaker 1>university students, and I think they did three different versions

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<v Speaker 1>of these attention tests. And then all of these fifty

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<v Speaker 1>university students were between the ages of eighteen and twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is also taking play in Japanese culture,

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<v Speaker 1>where you know that the kawaii effect is much more pronounced,

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<v Speaker 1>which leads some people to say, perhaps there's not really

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<v Speaker 1>that much evidence here that cuteness could bolster your attentiveness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because if this held true, you would just want to

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<v Speaker 1>cuteify everything. You'd want a little cute faces and animals

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<v Speaker 1>just crawling all over just everything in your work life,

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<v Speaker 1>everything at home, just until you're just there's just an

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<v Speaker 1>overdose of cute all the time, just to keep you attentive.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to say that might be distracting at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. Yeah, alright, so what about cuteness and a robot?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking about you, Arnie. Sorry, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Kismut the robot. And we've actually met Kismut

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<v Speaker 1>before here on, at least in the episodes that we've described.

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<v Speaker 1>Kismutt is robot that has been used at M I

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<v Speaker 1>T and it is used to figure out sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the psychological ramifications of interactions between humans and robots, specifically children.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of looks like a skinless robot Magua or Furby. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Ferby definitely. It's got the furry ears, it's got huge eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can make a lot of distinctive um faces

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<v Speaker 1>that that interact with the person. Yeah, and it works. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it works really well because it's not it's

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<v Speaker 1>not an attempted to human face, so you don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>get into that possibility of uncanny Valley. It's instead this

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<v Speaker 1>this non human but but it that it has human

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<v Speaker 1>qualities to it, and then it is successfully making all

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<v Speaker 1>these various faces and conveying emotion. At the bottom of this,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just cuteness. That's what reigns supreme about this robot

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<v Speaker 1>um other than its ability to interact with humans. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do? You take this robot and you

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<v Speaker 1>insert it into a study, which is headed up by

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Burnham at Harvard University along with Brian Hair. They

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<v Speaker 1>pitted nine volunteers against each other anonymously in games where

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<v Speaker 1>they had to donate money or withhold. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the classic scenario we've seen over and over again. They

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<v Speaker 1>can donate it into a communal pot and that would

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<v Speaker 1>yield the most money, but only if other people donated

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<v Speaker 1>to So the researchers split the group into two. Half

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<v Speaker 1>made their choices undisturbed at computer screens, while the other

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<v Speaker 1>half were faced with the photo of this absolute adorable kisman. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the players who gazed at Kismut gave thirty more to

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<v Speaker 1>the pot than others, and Vernam and Hare believed that

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<v Speaker 1>at some subconscious level they were aware of being watched,

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<v Speaker 1>or they sort of took that as being watched just

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this photo. Um, but it may have something

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<v Speaker 1>also to do with our brain kind of carrying out

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<v Speaker 1>this decision making with this cute, this representation of cuteness

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<v Speaker 1>in front of us. Yeah, because how hard and selfish

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<v Speaker 1>can you be in the presence of like a really

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<v Speaker 1>cute kitten or an adorable baby. Not so much in

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<v Speaker 1>even in the processing of it of thinking thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is cute, and you know that melts my heart

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But in that those micro sect that

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about, of seeing this cute image and that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, against every fiber in your your your body,

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<v Speaker 1>any defense you may have you may have up against

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<v Speaker 1>that cuteness and against the idea of giving your money

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<v Speaker 1>away or or or or letting your your temper go

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<v Speaker 1>down a bit, it kind of creeps in past all

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<v Speaker 1>those defenses and deactivates you. Well, what I love too,

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<v Speaker 1>is this idea that you could manipulate altruistic behavior with

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of fake eyeballs, right just staring at you,

0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>adorable fake eyeballs. All right, Well, we're gonna take one

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<v Speaker 1>more break, and when we come back, we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about Kauai and a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about cats. All right, we're back. Okay. So there

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<v Speaker 1>is a wonderful article from Wired magazine called In Search

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<v Speaker 1>of the Living, purring, singing Heart of the Online Cat

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<v Speaker 1>Industrial Complex. Uh. The author, Gideon Lewis Krause, cites a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different studies to try to explain why cats

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<v Speaker 1>rule the Internet. And it's very interesting. Yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a very long discussion of the power of cats, the

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<v Speaker 1>power of feelines, but it is I would say it's

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<v Speaker 1>must read for anyone who is a self aware cat

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<v Speaker 1>person because she really gets into how we interact with

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<v Speaker 1>the feelines, how the feelines to limited extent and interact

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<v Speaker 1>with us, and how this becomes a metaphor for the

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<v Speaker 1>way we approach life itself. Yeah, and if you're very

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<v Speaker 1>interested in Japanese culture, this is also a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of plunge in and see how that's played out.

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<v Speaker 1>The first study that was mentioned in this article is

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<v Speaker 1>a study of internet habits of two hundred and six

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<v Speaker 1>teams or a University of Science and Technology students. Now

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<v Speaker 1>of these students were deemed depressed after they were being

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<v Speaker 1>after they were surveyed, so there's this sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pat standard survey to assess levels of depression that was

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<v Speaker 1>administered to them. So they figured out that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>within the sample size of these people are depressed. So

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<v Speaker 1>they found two things in this Internet usage UM. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, they also had access to the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>UM activity they had online, not specifically what sights they

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<v Speaker 1>went to, but the kind of activity like for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>file sharing, checking their email, surfing, the way of looking

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<v Speaker 1>at images, looking at videos. Yeah, and so to findings

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<v Speaker 1>in general, the more participant score on the survey indicated depression,

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<v Speaker 1>the more his or her Internet usage included, uh, those

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<v Speaker 1>features as you say. So there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>file sharing, high levels of that, especially with music and movies.

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<v Speaker 1>And second, they found patterns of Internet usage that were

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<v Speaker 1>statistically high among people with depressive symptoms compared with those

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<v Speaker 1>without the symptoms. So, for example, people with depressive symptoms

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<v Speaker 1>tend to engage in a lot of email usage, so

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<v Speaker 1>they were sending emails right and left and um. This

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<v Speaker 1>correlated with some research that was done by psychologist Janet

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<v Speaker 1>Moorehan Martin, and Phyllis Schumacher. They found that frequent checking

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<v Speaker 1>of email rate may relate to high levels of anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course that correlates to depressive symptoms. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can definitely see where checking your email all the

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<v Speaker 1>time would be depressing, because that's where we get our

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<v Speaker 1>bills these days. That's where bad news is just as

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<v Speaker 1>likely to come in via email as it is to

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<v Speaker 1>come in over the phone. Yeah, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just the the act doing that over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again, sort of bullies. This underlying anxiety, Yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>is at the root of all of this, and so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the study is really interesting. I won't go into all

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<v Speaker 1>the different points that correlated with depressive symptoms, but those

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<v Speaker 1>are just a couple of the highlights. Um. Lewis Crofts,

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<v Speaker 1>the the author of this article I'm Wired, then looked

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<v Speaker 1>at this other study because he felt like these two

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dovetailed together really nicely. Because first you have

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<v Speaker 1>the study of just you know, if you're if you're depressive,

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<v Speaker 1>then perhaps you're a higher user of the Internet, or

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you you're watching more videos and possibly suggested in this article,

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you're seeking out more cat videos. You're seeing now more

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>cute videos. Are You're going to cute overload to get

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that dose of cute fluffiness into your life. So he says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that they did not know what exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>content was, but you know, it stands to reason that

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<v Speaker 1>cats would be part of some of that, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the second study, which is called Factors Influencing the

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<v Speaker 1>Temporal Patterns of dietic behaviors and Interactions between domestic cats

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<v Speaker 1>and their owners. The conclusion quote that the higher the

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<v Speaker 1>proportion of all successful intents to interact with the cat

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<v Speaker 1>that were due to the cat. The longer was the

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<v Speaker 1>duration of the interactions. So he says that, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>your cat will like you best if you pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't desperately want to play with it. I love

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<v Speaker 1>this study even has not one a prize with the

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<v Speaker 1>ignobles it should. I mean, it's a very interesting study

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<v Speaker 1>and a revealing study, but it reveals something that scientifically

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<v Speaker 1>that cat owners pretty much already know that. You bring

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<v Speaker 1>somebody into the house who's allergic to the cat, who

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<v Speaker 1>who who does not like the cat, That's who the

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<v Speaker 1>cat is going to insist on walking on and climbing

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<v Speaker 1>up on and rubbing against and everything else under the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>You bring in a toddler who wants nothing more than

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<v Speaker 1>to pet the cat for hours and hours on end,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the cat is going to avoid that child like the plague.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and it's great that there's finally a study

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<v Speaker 1>that says this is this is what's happening here, because

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<v Speaker 1>all of us have suspected it. Um. The other part

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<v Speaker 1>of the study was that the more neurotic cat owner,

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<v Speaker 1>the more desperate for fuzzy comfort and nesley security and

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<v Speaker 1>unconditional affection, which is essentially what we were just talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course the brief of the interactions. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just important to state that as the

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<v Speaker 1>owner and and and the cat that dynamic because Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>Kraft says, hey, what do we do on the interner

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<v Speaker 1>that all day long we like things and then we

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<v Speaker 1>sit around and we wait for things that we do

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to be liked, And he says that we check all

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<v Speaker 1>the analytics and all the retreats, and this is where

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<v Speaker 1>those cats come in, because cats essentially are us trying

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<v Speaker 1>to gain approval. Yes, so there is huge symbol of

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<v Speaker 1>these interactions that we have between us. Yeah, when the

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<v Speaker 1>cat shows you attention, you have you sort of won

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 1>that attention. You have to you have to continually rewin

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that cat's attention because otherwise, because at any given point

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a day, okay will be like, hey, I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to leave the house and never see you again. Is

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that cool? Uh? And then I will happen if you

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<v Speaker 1>allow it to. And then if the cat remains in

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>your house, you have to you have to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>play it cool or you sometimes you have to coax

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the cat and to get the reward of the cute face,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>of the warmth against your body, the furry feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>holding the cat, and of course the health ben offense.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been numerous studies that have looked at the health

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<v Speaker 1>ben if it's of cat ownership. But then again, the

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<v Speaker 1>more you chase after it, the more you try and

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<v Speaker 1>make it your own, the more likely that have penis

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>is going to crawl under the bed and hide from you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's sort of like if if you seek out

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>these pictures and these videos of cats, then on some

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>level you're you're courting approval from them. And it says,

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you see a picture of a cat

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and says, oh hi, it's not you know, it's the

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>cat's not saying oh, hello, hello, look at me, the

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>cat saying oh I didn't see standing there. It's that

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of attitude. And so I love how he weaves

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>all of this together, this internet usage. So in that sense,

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>be the Lucky Cat is really a cat video that

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>takes back to the Edo period because it's a beckoning cat.

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>The cat is waving, the cat is saying hi, hello,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and and actually acknowledging you, even though it's just a

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:46.719
<v Speaker 1>mechanical cat or or just even an unmoving uh image

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of a cat. It's waving to you, it's beckoning to you,

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and therefore it's approving of you. Messengers like the unrequited love.

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And finally you have this cat saying yes, come here,

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I will fold you into my arms. And then you

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>have somebody that got frustrated and said, forget it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to try and len these cats approval anymore.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make myself one out of stone, or I'm

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna make one that actually mechanically waves at me, and

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that will do it. It would be my cat gollumn, yes,

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>cat go yeah. Um. Clay Sharkey has an interesting TED

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>talk and he talks about something called cognitive surplus, and

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>then he weaves that into l O L cats and

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he says that cognitive surplus is the ability of the

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>world's population to volunteer and to contribute and collaborate on large,

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes global projects. So he uses l O L cuts

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>as an example. Right, a lot of people from all

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>over the world contributing to this one effort essentially just

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>to make all of this laugh, which is a great thing.

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And he says that um, it is made up of

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>two things this cognitive surplus. He says that it's the

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>world's free time and talents. And he says, the world

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>has over a trillion hours a year of free time

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to commit these shared projects. I kind of I don't

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>know where he came up with that, staff, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. And then he says that, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we as a collective power of world changing behavior, if

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<v Speaker 1>we can do the ll L cats that we could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially with that those trillions of hours actually committed to

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<v Speaker 1>something that is meaningful, I mean beyond making all of

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>us laugh, because that is meaningful. So he's saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got time to ll okay, you've got time

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<v Speaker 1>to cure cancer. I think he's saying, we can all

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not cure cancer, but you know, we could all

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>freak at least love each other a little more. We

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>could love each other a little bit more. We could

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>pool our efforts to try to tackle certain problems that

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>would rely upon individual efforts, um to to give their

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>talents to this one thing. It's an interesting concept. It's

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>very ted. It is it's very ted. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>does make me think again of cuteness as a as

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<v Speaker 1>an icon, cuteness as as an object of worship, a

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<v Speaker 1>little adorable cat made out of plastic that you put

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<v Speaker 1>on your desk and in a sense, you pray to

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>every time you look at it. You're you maybe not,

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>you're actually not Actually you're not actually saying any kind

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>of a prayer, but you are looking to it and

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<v Speaker 1>investing some level of cognitive energy into it and expecting

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<v Speaker 1>to gain from it. There you go. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is as good as it gets when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>trying to explain the love of cats, the obsession with

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>cats on the internet, and then touching on this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of kauai and uh, the ways in which it colors

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<v Speaker 1>our perception. All right, So there you have it, kauaite cute. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>the what is a little bit of cuteness that you

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