1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Building a culture. This is where the culture has to 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: be yours. You need to believe it, you need to 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: sell it, and you need to demand it. The culture 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: at the House State, I always had a vision and 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: a dream that we would play fearless. We have three 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: parts of the culture and number one is for it's 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: called relentless effort. The sound bite is four to six 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: A to B. That's the length of a play, and 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: everybody has a point, A and point, but you go 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: as hard as you can. The number two is called 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: competitive excellence, and that's a John win is um and 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: that's I want you to embrace. We're gonna work harder 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: than anybody else. You marry. And then the final piece 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: is it's called power of the unit, and it's love. 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: The greatest form of motivation is the brotherhood. You have 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: to walk in every meeting as if you're coaching Tom 17 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Brady because if you go in ill prepared and babble, 18 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: tom Brady will shoot you down. Football is about love, 19 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: it's about toughness, and it's about team. And now move 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up everybody? 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: While come to move the six presented by Castro Ledge 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: DJ Bucky with you and we have a fun episode today, 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: special episode because we've got some big news this morning, Buck, Yeah, 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: big news. This is really looking like Irban Meyer is 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: about to go to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and so for 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: us is something that we've talked about for a long time. 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Irban Myer is a proven program builder. He's a guy 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: who has a tremendous amount of success at the collegiate level, 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: and even though he's making a transition from the college 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: game to the pro game, uh and having multiple conversations 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: with him over the years, just really believe in the 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: cultural abuility that he is. So what we're gonna do 33 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: on today's episode, we're gonna talk here at the top 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: about what we think about this fit and how this 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: is gonna work out, and then we're going to throw 36 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: to some sound uh from the from the two interviews 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: we've done with Urban Meyer on Moved the six with 38 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: some other key topics including you know what a championship 39 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: culture looks like, what he looks for in a quarterback, um, 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: talking about how he's going to be in front of 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: the room, the importance and what that will look like 42 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: with the Jags. We can now kind of take everything 43 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: we've learned from the past and kind of projected into 44 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: the future there with Jacksonville. But I'll give you the 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: first word on this, but do you do you like 46 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: to move for Jacksonville and what do you expect? I 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: love the move for Jacksonville. I love to move because 48 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: the move gives them UM a program builder, a culture builder. 49 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: There's certain situations where you need a play caller UM 50 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: to kind of refresh and retool the program, and there 51 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: are other things where you need to complete rebuild, a 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: complete change of culture. And I know we talked about 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: their word being overused and kind of misappropriated, but I 54 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: think it's really applicable here because in Jacksonville, when you 55 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: have lost as much as they've lost in recent years, 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: there's a I mean a lack of confidence around the building. 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: There's a lack of maybe I would even say self 58 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: esteem around the program, and you need to build that up. 59 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: And the best way you can build that up is 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: to have someone walk in not only full of confidence, 61 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: but full of UM I guess knowledge of how to 62 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: do this. And so because Herbert Meyer has done and 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: I know everyone will point to Ohio State in Florida. 64 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: But I think the bigger things to me because he 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: was able to do it at Bowling Green and at Utah. 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: I think his ability to do more with less really 67 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: applies in this situation because everyone thinks it's about acquiring 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: the best players and all that other stuff, and it is, 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: but it's also about developing players and putting the pieces 70 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: of the poles together so you can have the best team. 71 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: I think his experience just serving will in this in 72 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: this situation. Yeah, I like it, And you know, and 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: I know you said you're gonna write about this, and 74 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: we've been talking about this for a little while. It 75 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: feels a little bit like Jimmy Johnson going to the 76 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys and somebody I put that on on Twitter and 77 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: somebody wrote back said, yeah, but the Cowboys had a 78 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: history of championships in the organization, like and not under 79 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. They didn't. That was pet Tram and Tom 80 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Landry and company. This was a whole new era of 81 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: Cowboy football which they had not done very well. So this, this, 82 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: to me, um made sense for them to uh to 83 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: go in this direction. They've got the cow Aways, had 84 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Troy Caman already in place, right when Jimmy came there. No, 85 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: that was his first pick was that? Was that, Jimmy. 86 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: That was Jimmy's first pick was Troy. Jimmy's first pick 87 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: was Troy. Team that first year. Yeah, yeah, one of 88 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: fifteen did four straight losing seasons prior to Jimmy Johnson. 89 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: They get Troy, I mean they get one in fifteen, 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: but then you know, we talked about the hershel Walker trade. 91 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: You get a bowtload of picks. They hit on that. 92 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: They go one in fifteen, seven, and nine, and then 93 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: the dynasty took place. So yep, so you've got a 94 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: similarity there and the uh, this Jack's team with all 95 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: these picks, now they don't have the herschel Walker trade, 96 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: but they come I think what four the top sixty 97 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: five buck? Is that what it was? Four to top 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: sixty five? Like a million in cap space potentially. Yeah, 99 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: and you've got I mean, you've got options with those. 100 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: You know, I would assume first picking and take your quarterback, 101 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: but after that you could always trade back and get 102 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: more picks next year and do whatever you want. You've 103 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: got a lot of flexibility. There's so that to me 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: gives you a chance to build what we've said, Marian, 105 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: He's goes to place with a young roster um and 106 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: kind of build it from the ground up. Him going 107 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: to a veteran, established team, I don't think what is 108 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: much sense. But he's got a chance to craft this 109 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: thing and build it however the heck he wants, so 110 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: that to me is interesting. And then look at the 111 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: landscape of this division. You've got, um Indianapolis, who could 112 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: be in a situation where their quarterback retires, so that's 113 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of a reboot there. You've got Tennessee 114 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: who more than likely is gonna lose their offensive coordinator, 115 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: so they've got a little turn over there. And then Houston. 116 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't use the word dumpster fire, but it ain't great. 117 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: It's not great. The the the relationship there between their 118 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: quarterback and their organization is not good. They don't have 119 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: draft picks. Um. It's in a little bit of turmoil 120 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: down there in Houston. So, Man, I think this is 121 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: the right opportunity for this organization to really try and 122 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: build something special. You know, I think it is the 123 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: right time. And I think also his prefer style of 124 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: play works well in that division. And even though he's 125 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: not the offensive play called or whatever. He has a 126 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: vision for how his team is playing. If you go 127 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: back and I mean you go back to bold and Green. 128 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: But my first exposure to him was a Utah. We 129 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: know how physical the those teams were in Utah. I 130 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: remember stepping on the practice fielding watching those guys and 131 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: he had Alex Smith and Paris Warren and some of 132 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: those other guys, and how physical they played. And I 133 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: watched them play a Texas A and M team that 134 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: came into that building I think it's Rice Echo Stadium 135 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: and absolutely got dropped because they physically beat them up. 136 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: And then you watch him take that same plan and 137 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: go to Florida and do the same stuff. And then 138 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: what he was able to do in Ohio State, so 139 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a very physical football team. You'll see 140 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: a young football team that he would develop in. The 141 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: beautiful thing about inheriting the Jacksonville situation is I was 142 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville when Tom Coughlin was there. And the reason 143 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: why Tom Coughland initially had successes because when you have 144 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of young players that are coming right out 145 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: of college, they don't know any better. And so if 146 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: you're coming in with a collegiate style program that may 147 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: until more work or the grind or whatever. Well that's 148 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: all you've ever done in college, and so it's easy 149 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: to get younger guys to buy into that. Then older 150 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: players who kind of set and settled in their ways, 151 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: and so having a clean slate, having a young roster 152 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: that does have some emerging players, I think that is 153 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: really really appealing to him. And I don't think it 154 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: hurts having the number one overall pick and a guy 155 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence sitting right there where you can start 156 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: from day one and think about this is a five 157 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: year process to get this program up and running. You 158 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: know who had a great day. Here is is a 159 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: ticket department because I would imagine sales already. I mean 160 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: we talked about it. The excitement that you tell me about, 161 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: the excitement just with them having the number one overall pick. 162 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Now you're taken up to a whole another level. Yeah, 163 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: and this is a combination of a few different things, 164 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: like the Trevor Lawrence thing. Really send the ticket sales 165 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: through the roof. When I talked to my my people 166 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville. But now, remember Jacksonville is only a 167 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: like a Stone's throw away from Gainesville. I mean literally, 168 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: So you think about the success and people will always 169 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: point to, oh, he left it in a bad situation. 170 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: But the one thing I know, the Florida Gators have 171 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: not hoisted the restaball or the trophy since he left. 172 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: And so there's a faction of fans that remember how 173 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: successful he was. And so Jacksonville has a collegiate feel 174 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: to the town. It's a small market, is very similar 175 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: to what I would say Buffalo in Green Bay. And 176 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: so you have a rabid fan base that is desperate 177 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: before winning and because they haven't seen a winner in 178 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: a long time. What Urban Meyers a robal does he 179 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: gives him hope, no doubt. Um, well, let's get to 180 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: it here. Let's get to some of the answers to 181 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: these questions we had for Urban Meyer when he joined 182 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: the show. Over the last couple of years, we've had 183 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: him twice. So the first one I want to get 184 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: to here is a conversation we had and we got 185 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: a chance to ask him about what a championship culture entails. 186 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: So here's a here's his answer to that question. Well, 187 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. It's something that I think 188 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: is one of the most overused words and the English language. 189 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't think people understand it to say that I 190 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: really did. I did not as a young coach. And 191 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: I think cultures everything. And I actually talked quite a 192 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: bit on that. We teach a class in leadership and 193 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: so for example, culture to me, I know there's many definitions. 194 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: Culture to me is what does your product or what 195 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: does your team? What does your organization look like? What 196 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: does it feel like? And what does it act like? 197 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: And not necessarily when you're winning by forty points against 198 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: f a U, it's what's it look like in the 199 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: robbalry game, what's it looked like? And feel like? An 200 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: act like on fourth down and two or in the 201 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: stock market turns upside down, you know. And and culture 202 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: is it's got to be the vision of the CEO 203 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: or the man, the head coach. And you can't really 204 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: you can't waiver on your culture. So I think it's 205 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: it's you look at all successful programs. I think that's 206 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I Hi A State is 207 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: so successful. We built a culture that survives our adversity, 208 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: that survives early entry in the NFL draft, a coaching change, 209 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: And I think culture is essential to you. Look at 210 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots and you can say, boy, they got a 211 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: great coach, they got a great great players. Absolutely that's true. 212 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: But they someone who doesn't have a great coach and 213 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: a great player in the NFL, they're all great. The 214 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: thing that makes the New England Pictures unique is their culture, 215 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: developed by Bill Belichick. Is survives transition of players, survives injuries, 216 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: and it's culture. Every place that you go, do you 217 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: build the culture a little differently based on what the 218 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: history of the program is or is it something that 219 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: is in you that you have a core set of 220 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: things that you believe in, and the program kind of 221 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: follows today A great crush question. And I appreciate you 222 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: asking because these are by the way, you guys are great. 223 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: These are real. Sometimes I do interviews and it's like 224 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: a clown show. Now this is this is really good 225 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: stuff we're trying to learn. So building a culture, this 226 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: is where the culture has to be yours. First of all, 227 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: respect what was there before. However, and I'm going to 228 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: give you a speech. It's you need to believe it, 229 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: you need to sell it, and you need to demand it. 230 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: So believe it. It has to be an objective truth. 231 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: For example, if I walked in a place and I said, 232 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: if you throw from more yards then the other team 233 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: will win, that's a lie, that's not true. You know, 234 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: the culture at the House State we built, I can 235 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: go through it with you, is all. It's time tested, 236 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: it's built on objective truths, it's built on history, it's 237 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: built on experience, and I can share that with the 238 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: At the end, then you have to sell it. We're 239 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: in a world right now that back when I played 240 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: your coach that do something, you did it not Now 241 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: you have to sell it over and we use social media, 242 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: we use messaging constantly selling our culture. And then there 243 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: reaches a point with your staff and your players that 244 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: you have to demand it and if you're not living 245 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: under our culture, you have to leave. And so let's 246 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: believe it's sell it demanded the culture at o House State. 247 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: I always had a vision and a dream that we 248 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: would play fearless. And I've worked at so many places 249 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: where the players were scared to make mistakes. And so 250 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: my first part. We have three parts of the culture, 251 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: and number one is for it's called relentless effort. The 252 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: sound bite is four to six A to B. That's 253 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: the length of a play, and everybody has a point, 254 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: A and point. But you go hard as you can. 255 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: If you make a mistake, no problem. But that's a 256 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: sound bite that I know our players had constantly going 257 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: through their mind during of course the game is I 258 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: don't care if I'll make a mistake. You know, you 259 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: go as hard as you can. And I've had you know, 260 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: I've been criticized that similar teams have had penalties over 261 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: the years, and I would be okay with penalties as 262 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: long as it was non effort related. Now stupid penalties 263 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: had a problem with But if you're going to go 264 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: as hard as you can, you can't say but don't 265 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: make any mistakes, because then players in conflict. The number 266 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: two is called competitive excellence, and that's it, John Win 267 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: is um and that's I want you to embrace. We're 268 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna work harder than anybody else in America, and I 269 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: don't want you to complain about it. I don't want 270 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: you to worry about it. You know, I tell me 271 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: recruiting that you are going to be rewarded and the 272 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: NFL most likely and we're gonna win. Just do what 273 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: we ask you to do. It's going to be the 274 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: most miserable, hard stuff you've ever done, but embrace it. 275 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 1: And then the final piece is it's called power of 276 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: the unit and the greatest form of I used the 277 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: word inspiration instead of of motivation because motivation is short lived. 278 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: Inspiration is long lives and sustains, and that's love. The 279 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: greatest form of motivation is the brotherhood and that's used 280 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: in the special forces, that used in the best forms 281 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: of corporate America. And the best teams and the best 282 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: units are those that love each other and care about 283 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: each other. So that's the culture of a hot stage. 284 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: It's funny hearing him talk about that and talk about 285 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: different spots and how you come in. But I think 286 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: the one thing that is a parent is that you 287 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: absolutely understand that he knows exactly what he's doing. He 288 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: knows exactly what he wants and what he's going to 289 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: demand from his team, and I think it is it 290 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: is really really important. It's important when you build in 291 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: a program to to have a plan, to have a blueprint, 292 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: to know when you need to deviate from it. But 293 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that you get from those conversations, 294 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: he knows exactly how it's done and when he mentioned 295 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: a tried and true, a proven formula. I think that's 296 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: really really important. Yeah, sometimes I think we can look 297 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: at things and say is this the right plan or 298 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: the wrong plan? I think the important thing is you 299 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: have a plan um, and he has a appy as 300 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: a plan of what he wants it to look like. 301 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: Now we'll see is it all going to work? Um? 302 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: And we're both optimistic about it with none of us know. 303 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: We don't know for sure, but I do know he 304 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: goes in there with a map and a in a 305 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: plan here for what he wants to Jacksonville Jaguars to 306 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: look like. So we'll see how that all comes together. Yeah. 307 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: It's funny because having having played in Jacksonville and been 308 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: associated with Jaguars for a long time, I can tell 309 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: you when coach Coughland came in, When Tom Coughlin came 310 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: in with that collegiate field, he did have a plan. 311 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: And the one thing I can't give him credit for 312 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: is he built a winner. This was a franchise that 313 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: was very very competitive under his watch, went to playoffs, 314 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: and it was a hard working franchise that was tough 315 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: and detailed and discipline and all those things. I think 316 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: with coach Meyer going back or coming in, I think 317 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: he would put in a program or a culture that's similar, 318 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: but in his own image. And I think it's important 319 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: because I think the fans around Jacksonville certainly understand what 320 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: it looks like when it's been successful. And I think 321 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: the familiarity of that could legion field will will will 322 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: encourage a lot of people that supported the franchise in 323 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: the team. Well, we talked about culture, there's a something 324 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,119 Speaker 1: else that's going to be very important instrumental to his success. 325 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: UM and this was the next topic we brought up 326 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: with Coach Meyer. The quarterback position, as you know, is 327 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: the hardest one for us to scout each and every year. 328 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: You think you've got to figure it out and you don't. UM, 329 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: So I'm always trying to figure out what guys have 330 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: have done well and figure out what they're looking for. 331 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: We've asked all kinds of players, coaches, gms, etcetera. And 332 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: I remember I actually listened to one of your I 333 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: think was a post recruiting press conference, and I pulled 334 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: out my pen because somebody asked you the question about 335 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: what you looked for in quarterbacks and I had competitive 336 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: spirit toughness, leadership, intelligence, and get out of a bad play. Now, 337 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: the first four are pretty universal that you hear from 338 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot of different people. The last one, with the 339 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: way the game has played today, I thought was fascinating. 340 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: Can you just kind of expound on that and what 341 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: you have to be able to do to get yourself 342 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: out of a bad play? Sure? Um, I feel very 343 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: strongly about that. We she did a show on Fox 344 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: about that. And it's amazing to me in the NFL 345 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: that you have all this available information and you make 346 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: a mistake on drafting a quarterback. That that amazes me. 347 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: And it's same thing recruiting. I get very upset when 348 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: one of our coaches recruits someone and you know, competitive 349 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: everyone black, white, tall, short, fast, slow, um from south 350 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: from waste from West and all those things don't matter. 351 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, society wants to believe that matters. Uh, those 352 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: type of things. It doesn't. Can you get your job 353 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: done and do you fit these qualities? So, for example, 354 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: every great quarterback we had was the most competitive guy 355 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: on the team, the number two thing. He was the 356 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: toughest guy. And you have to be nowadays. You're the 357 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: face of the program. If you're not tough, don't don't drafting, 358 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: and we shouldn't recruit you. Number three is are you intelligent? 359 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: You know you have This is a complex game. You 360 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: have to not only core gap ten guys on your offense, 361 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: but you have to understand what the defense is doing. 362 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Are you lead? Can you raise the level people around 363 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: you to play around you? If you can't. I know 364 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: you throw the ball well, but you can't play here. 365 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Because the quarterbacks the most unique position and all the sport, 366 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: you have to be a leader. I've had quarterbacks saying 367 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm just not focal coach, I'm not a great leader, 368 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, well, I know you throw the 369 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: ball well, but you're you're not playing. You can't play. 370 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: And then the final pieces is not get out of 371 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: a big play, because it's it's that that that falls 372 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: under intelligence. It says can you extend to play? And 373 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: that's going from I think Roethlisberger is one of the 374 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: greatest I've ever witnessed in the NFL, that simon a 375 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: gun can make something out of nothing, and every great 376 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: quarterback Drew Breese to Russell Wilson too. I just was 377 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: at the Chargers game and watching Rivers unbelievable. His you know, 378 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: he's got an awkward throwing motion. Notice I've never said 379 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: anything about their how you throw the ball. There's been 380 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: how many busts in the NFL of guys who can 381 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: throw the ball well, but they can't have those other 382 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: five qualities. And I feel very strong about that. And 383 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: I also feel strong about that the top four in 384 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: every position we recruit, you can't. This game is too 385 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: hard and you'll get exposed on you know, third down 386 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: or fourth down or two in the third quarter on 387 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: a bad weather day when you're down by seven, if 388 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: you don't have those top four qualities, what do you think, Buck? 389 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he had to nail on the head. 390 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: I think what's interesting he he talked about all the 391 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: qualities and didn't mention any of the physical stuff. It 392 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: was all about how the guys made up and the 393 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: competitiveness and the toughness and the ability to lead and 394 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: inspire and DJ we have talked about it on the 395 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: program before. The one thing that you look for from 396 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback is does he give those around him hope? 397 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: Do you feel like if we give the ball back 398 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: the QB one we have an opportunity to win because 399 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: he'll find a way to get it done. And we 400 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: don't know what that looks like, but he will find 401 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: a way to do it. And I think your analogy 402 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: is the best one that I've heard in a long time. 403 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: If he was playing pick up basketball with just four dudes, 404 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: can he find a way to stay on the court. Yeah, 405 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: that's really what it's about. We can talk about all 406 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: the staffs or whatever. Are you a winner? Can you 407 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: get your team to win a circle in spite of 408 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: the circumstances. That's what I want from my QB one. Yeah, 409 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think a lot of people will will 410 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: show the image of Urban Meyer sitting in the stands 411 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: this year for the Clemson Ohio State game where Justin 412 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: Fields did outplay Trevor Lawrence in that game. I think 413 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna point to that and 414 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: it will create some conversation of man, could they potentially 415 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: take him over Trevor Lawrence? And I think people soon 416 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: forget the year before. If you remember in that game 417 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: you talked about competitiveness, toughness, and leadership. How about the 418 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 1: shot that Trevor Lawrence took um that I thought might 419 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: knock him out of the game. It was a penalty 420 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: on that one. As everybody knows, they come back out 421 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: onto the field. And the next image I have is 422 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: if Trevor Lawrence taking off and running for sixty plus 423 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: yards and then coming back and taking over that football game. 424 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: So to me, I think he checks that entire list off. 425 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: He absolutely checks that off. And I think when you 426 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: go back and look at his history, he is only 427 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: lost four games, I want to say, in his lifetime, 428 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: him from high school through college, and I think man 429 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: winners win, and I think there is something to that. 430 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: And you talked about the toughness, the one thing that 431 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I would never question about Trevor Lawrence. We can talk 432 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: about how he's a generational talent in terms of his 433 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: ability to throw it. He's a tough dude. And even 434 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: when it wasn't going right in the game in the 435 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: semifinal when they lost to Ohio State, I never saw 436 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: him flinch. I never saw him blank. I never saw 437 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: him stop trying. I didn't see him kind of roll 438 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: roll up and say, you know what, I'm going to 439 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: the draft, so hey, I'm good coach, tap me out. 440 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: He played to the end, and I think there's something 441 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: to be said for the toughness and the competitiveness that's 442 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: necessary to be a high end winner. Let's stay on 443 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: the toughness thing, because we got a couple more bites 444 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: from him on just how important that toughness is, especially 445 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. What is it about when you're 446 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: thinking about urban myin style of ball and the toughness 447 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: part of it. Why it's toughness so essential to being 448 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: able to win in this game? Well, the game was 449 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: about toughness years before we entered the scene, and I 450 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: got news years after us this game. I know there's 451 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, spread offenses and and uh, what's the other one? 452 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Air raid and and all that, and the bottom line 453 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: is that when you start, the objective is to win 454 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: conference championships, and then the next is to win the 455 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: ultimate is the national title, and it will never be 456 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: done unless toughness as part of that team. And toughness 457 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: to me is fights your injury, fight through adversity. You know, 458 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: Toughness doesn't mean a bully, doesn't mean that I'm going 459 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: to go take a cheap shot at someone. To me, 460 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: that stupidity and that's being a coward. Toughness to me 461 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: is the guy that is gonna run down on kickoff 462 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: at twenty two miles an hour and hits something going 463 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: the other way at twenty you know, And it's it's 464 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: the guys on punt team. It's the guys that the 465 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: offensive tackles, nose guards toughness to me, and coaching, to 466 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: me is getting people. Coaching to me is getting people 467 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: to do the unthinkable the heart. You know, a guy 468 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: that can teach you a guy to throw a corner 469 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: route or catch a touchdown pass that you know Donald 470 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: Duck can do that. You know, can you teach the 471 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: toughness and demand the toughness. To me, that's a great coach, 472 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: and that's got to be a part of your culture 473 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: because the game will I got news. I don't mean 474 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: to disappoint some of these people that think they're throwing 475 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: the balls the only way to win. You know. I 476 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: see some of the hires in the NFL, and I 477 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: see some of the you know, to me, it's almost 478 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: in disrespect to the game of football. Football is about love, 479 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: it's about toughness, and it's about team. That's great stuff. Coach. 480 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: You know, they keep hearing the word toughness when with 481 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and the scouting department we had speed, toughness, 482 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: and instincts were the three that we kind of boiled 483 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: everything down to. And that's what that culture the Baltimore 484 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: Ravens has been about forever. And it's no mystery to 485 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: me that they've continued to win year after year. The 486 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: players change, it doesn't matter because that's where they're where 487 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: they hang their hat. When you're evaluating quarterbacks, how can 488 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: you determine if they have the right toughness, the right 489 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: stuff inside to be the leader of the team and 490 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: really a winner. Well, that's a great I agree with. 491 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: How do how do sny people make mistakes? Me included 492 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: and in the NFL when we have all that time 493 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: and resources, how do you Well, he gets enamored by 494 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: how the guy throws the ball well, I got news 495 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: that's a lot of people throw the ball well. What 496 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: throwing the ball well is not make is does not 497 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: make Tom Brady Tom Brady, Drew Brees. Uh. The reason 498 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: he the way is is not because he throws the 499 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: ball well and the Rivers guy. Uh, he actually doesn't 500 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: throw as an awkward throwing motion, but he's a tough, 501 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: tough guy, and he's a leader and he's a competitor. So, uh, 502 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: the older I got, we made very few mistakes on 503 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and as because we had set criteria that I 504 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: would not We would not take you if you didn't 505 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: fit our criteria. And how do you evaluate toughness. I 506 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: love the guy like Joe Burrow. I know he had 507 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: all his success after he left us, but he was unrecruited. 508 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: But we took him because of basketball. He was a maniac, competitor, 509 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: toughest nails, under recruited, and we said, let's take him. 510 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: J T. Barrett is the most glorified, uh, most accomplished 511 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: quarterback in the big tent. Why. Yeah, he's a little underside, 512 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the greatest of arm, but he's tough 513 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: and he's competitor, and toughness is not that hard to 514 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: identify if you really do your own. Now, there you 515 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: go a little bit more on the importance of toughness there. 516 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 1: I think he said it quite well there, Buck. One 517 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: of the things he's gonna have to do now is 518 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to get in front of an NFL team, 519 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: grown men. It's going to be different than the college level, 520 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: but still I think the importance of of what you 521 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: bring to the meeting room is something urban Meyer definitely understands. 522 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: You know, this is great, This is great for you too. 523 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: As a coach. Uh Bill O'Brien told me one time, 524 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: we're talking about coaching Tom Brady, and he said, and 525 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: I've been guilty this. You have to walk in every 526 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: meeting as if you're coaching Tom Brady, because if you 527 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: go in there, he'll prepared in Babbel. Tom Brady will 528 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: shoot you down. You know he'll he'll it'll be the 529 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: most he'll make you feel like you just wasted people's 530 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: kind And so many many times as a coach, you're 531 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: not prepared for your meeting. You've dumb it down, and 532 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden and I've done it. I 533 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: walked out of meeting so upset on myself that I said, 534 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: that was not a great meeting because something came up 535 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: and I had to go speak somewhere, I had to 536 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: go do something. So your time in front of that 537 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: team coach, you can't. You can't devalue that you're going 538 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: to impact every meeting. I would look at myself and 539 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: say before I went and I said, I'm going to 540 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: change someone's life to me that this will make this 541 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: meeting will be the difference that we beat our rival. 542 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: And so I after talking to Tom O'Brien, I would 543 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: just challenge my coaches all the time, and I'd walk 544 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: into meetings and say, you know that was a good 545 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: one or that was not a good one, and you 546 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: have to And I'm challenging you, coach. As a head 547 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: coach of the high school, you realize that said there's 548 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: some sixteen year old in there, You're going to change 549 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: his life. And if you look at that and imagine 550 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: how good that meeting is gonna be. If you know 551 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: there's there's four people in that that I'm not only 552 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: gonna change his life on the football field, I'm gonna 553 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: make him a better husband and father today, tell me 554 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: how you're gonna react to You're gonna attack that meeting 555 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: like it's the last meeting you owner have. I think 556 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: some people don't look at it that way. Yeah. I 557 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: think that shows you the intensity and the detail there 558 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: that you're gonna get from coach Meyer there Buck. Yeah. 559 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: I think I think the attention to detail is everything. 560 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: And I think when he stands in front of the 561 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: team for the first time. I think it is giving 562 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: him that level of respect, giving him that that setting 563 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: the high standards that he wants, and making sure that 564 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: each and every day he stands before the team, that 565 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: he conveys not only that he knows exactly what he's doing, 566 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: but he has that confidence because coach the player is 567 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: much like being a parent. Your kids are looking to 568 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: you to kind of set the table and they get 569 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: their confidence from you and how you handle adversity and 570 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: deal with those things. And so it's just really important 571 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: that he sets the table from the jump and each 572 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: and every day he walks it like he talks no doubt. Um. 573 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: All Right, we mentioned briefly earlier about how there's gonna 574 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: be adversity coming his way um at the NFL level, 575 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: and we had a chance to ask him about the 576 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: adversity teams have been dealing with this year. When you 577 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: think about the pandemic and all the other the social issues, 578 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: social justice issues in this country, there's a lot of 579 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: things to deal with this year, um in terms of adversity. 580 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: So we had a chance to ask coach Meyer about 581 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: how you overcome that. Somewhere along the line, you have 582 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: to deal with adversity, and so you talk about being 583 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: a program builder. What have you learned about helping teams 584 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: overcome adversity so they can get to the mountain top. Well, 585 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: I've been talking about this lately, and it's there's a 586 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: huge difference between motivation and inspiration. Motivation is something that's 587 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: a and this is just me speaking. There might be 588 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: some disagreements out there. Motivation is a tool in the toolbox. 589 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: It's something that's very powerful yet non sustainable. And the 590 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: qualities of motivation are love, fear, and hate. And as 591 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: a coach, for example, fourth down and one against the 592 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: arrival and overtime, I'm gonna use them all. I'm looking 593 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: for just a short burst uh, immediate uh, also energy 594 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: that can get us through this, and I'm gonna use everything. 595 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get them to love me. I might get 596 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 1: them to hate me. I might threaten or scholarship by 597 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: the fear yet a stunts. Those are all nonsense. You know, 598 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: Love or fear and hate are non sustainable. However, motivation 599 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: or inspiration is all about sustainability. It's transformational. And the 600 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: two qualities of inspiration or love and ownership. And so 601 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: you talk about how do you overcome adversity. In my mind, 602 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: there's only one way. You better own it and you 603 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: better love each other, or you're gonna fail and and 604 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: all the other things. You know, I just got done 605 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: talk of the team. You know, a team comes out 606 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: in a new black helmet and boy, they're excited about 607 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: the new uniforms, or they're you know, throwback uniforms, or 608 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: the crowd gets behind them and they're playing off. That's 609 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: a motivated team that's non sustainable, that's at some point 610 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: that's going to fail. Uh. The inspired team, the team 611 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: that owns it and they love each other, those are 612 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: the ones you don't want to play because you're in 613 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: for a for a four quarter battle. There's unprecedented obstacles 614 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: right now for coaches and for programs at the college 615 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: level and the NFL level. But with those obstacles also 616 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: there's some opportunities there if you put your head coaching 617 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: hat on at the NFL level or the college level. 618 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: What opportunities do you see that exist right now in 619 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: this unique time that we're living in. Well, adversity when 620 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: adversity strikes, which we are adversity. When you lose a 621 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa. We lost Nick Posa one year, he didn't 622 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: play the whole season, and we still want thirteen and 623 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: one that went to the Rose Bowl. Um when when 624 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 1: adverse to these strikes, that's when leadership and culture get exposed. 625 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: And in corporate America, at the end of this virus, 626 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: whenever this is, you're gonna see companies that are bankrupted. 627 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna see organizations that fall apart and stop because 628 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: they have you know, bad they're selling default equipment or whatever. 629 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: It's because they had a tough culture and tough leadership 630 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: that didn't survive it. You're gonna see college football. Some 631 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: teams are gonna blossom from this. Some teams will come 632 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: out stronger than they've ever been. Other teams will fold. 633 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: And it's not because of talent. It's because of culture 634 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: and leader. What is your culture of your organization and 635 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: how strong is your leadership? And I got just something 636 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: to add about that. If you can't tell me your culture, 637 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: then you don't have one. And I challenge coaches all 638 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: the time before I speak to the team or the staff, 639 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: or even in corporate America, if I've given a speech, 640 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: I'll say, well, tell me what your culture is. And 641 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: I can tell if it's crickets or they start getting nervous. 642 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: I often help him to say, you don't have one, 643 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: because if your employees or that, you know, if your 644 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: players can't tell us what's expected, you have no culture. 645 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's you can say it's important, but you 646 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: don't have one. Yeah, I think it's he's gonna know again, Buck, 647 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't know if it's going to work. 648 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: We're optimistic that it is going to work. We do 649 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: know is that there's a plan in place. There's a 650 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: plan in place. And I think the of all the 651 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: things that we did in terms of the questions that 652 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: we asked them, I think that last part of it 653 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: is essentially because everyone is going to want to because 654 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: he hasn't lost a lot of games. When it gets 655 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: bad in Jacksonville, if he gets off to a three, 656 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: four or five game losing Street, how is he going 657 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: to handle it? And I think his answer really gives 658 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: us confidence that he's going to be able to endure it. 659 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: He said, doing adversity, your leadership and your culture will 660 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: be exposed. And so I think for him and the 661 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: reason why I believe this higher was important, it was 662 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: about building a culture, building a program, and so if 663 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: he builds the right culture, regardless of how it starts out, 664 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars will come out on the other side, 665 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: and I think they will be better for for it 666 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: because of his arrival and what he gives that franchise. 667 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: Last thought for me will be interesting to see who 668 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: he gets on his staff. I think it's important he 669 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: gets some NFL guys. He might bring some college guys. 670 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: We'll see if if he gets Larry Johnson, one of 671 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: the best defensive line coaches in the country to come 672 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: from Ohio State. We'll see if Mickey Marati will join him, 673 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: one of the best strength coaches out there. But he's 674 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: gonna have to get some NFL guys as well. So 675 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: who does he build on his staff. And then as 676 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: we look forward to free agency, I think you're gonna 677 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: see a couple of former Buckeys come in there that 678 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: can echo his message. Guys like Curtis Samuel who are 679 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: free agents. Um, we've got ray Kwon McMillan, only cookers 680 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: of his out there, Corey Linsley from the Packers. So 681 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: I think you'll see him trying to bring in a 682 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: couple of guys that can kind of that know him 683 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: and know his message. Yeah, I think that would be important. 684 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: But I think the bigger thing will be and I 685 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: think Pete Carroll benefited from this when he went to Seattle. 686 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: His ability did not only know those guys that were 687 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: buck Eyes, but the top players around the country during 688 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: the recruiting process, he will know them. I think he 689 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: will bring some of those guys on board because he 690 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: did get down the road in the recruiting process and 691 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: they were his kind of guys. I think that fit 692 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: will be important. Look, man, it comes down to player 693 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: acquisition and player development. I think he will find a 694 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: way to acquire the right players, and I think the 695 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: most important part is when they get a chance to 696 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: get on the grass. Kenny developed the players. I'm confident 697 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: that he and his staff will develop the players, and 698 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: I think you will see a very competitive team in 699 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: Jacksonville in a few years. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. 700 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: We're talking. We just devoted a whole episode to the 701 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, so that shows you it's gonna be fun. 702 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: I hope you guys have enjoyed it. Um a little 703 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: a little insight there into what you can expect with 704 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars and their new head coach Urban Meyer. 705 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: I want to thank the Bill for putting this whole 706 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: thing together today. Worked really hard, had this all ready 707 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: to roll, So appreciate him and all his hard work. 708 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us today. We appreciate you, guys. 709 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time. Right here, I'll move the sticks. 710 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Presented by castrol Edge