1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: your Mind and listener Mail. My name is Robert Lamb 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: and I'm Joe McCormick, and it's Monday listener mail time. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: We hope you are ready to hear some messages that 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: have slammed into our inbox over the past few days. 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: So Rob, if you're ready, I'll jump right in on 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: this message from Matt about our episodes on beans. Let's 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: do it. Matt says, good day, fellas love the recent 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: bean episodes. My family and I grow corn, wheat and 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: soybeans here in Ontario, so I was thrilled to see 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: you focus so much attention on the humble legume. I 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: thought I knew quite a bit about them before, but 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: learned much more. The mythical historical context of beans was 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: something I was largely unaware of and from particularly interesting. 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Had a couple of thoughts. You mentioned the use of 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: a couple of different beans slash lagoons in the developing 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: plant protein market. There's a huge push here in Canada 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: to capitalize on this for many different crops, particularly in 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: the West, lentils, chickpeas, soybeans, and a bunch more. Each 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: one has a lot of potential uses beyond what's already current, 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: and not just for food products destined for direct human consumption. 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: On a related note, I think looking into how useful beans, grains, 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: and other field crops are in industrial processing would be 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: a neat subject. Like animal byproducts, they are in many 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: things we use or depend on every day without realizing it. 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: The number of subsequent uses one particular crop can have 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: is another thing. For example, the use of barley grain 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: in beer production, then the subsequent use of the spent 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: mash as feed for livestock. That's interesting. One last thing. 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: The Listener mail episode contained a letter suggesting you cover 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: animal science. There's a lot of interesting work going on 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: in this field in the agricultural space. I don't know 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: much about the met ecal side, but that's surely pretty 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: interesting too, so I would similarly suggest the subject. Thanks 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: again for your work, Matt, Well, thanks Matt. Yeah, I 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: think that's a great idea. Keep growing those chickpeas, all right. 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: Here's one that comes to us from Spencer. Spencer says Hi, Robert, Joe, 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: and Seth. I've listened to your show NonStop since, and 40 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: I adore the work y'all put out. I picked this 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: show up on the Alphabet and the Goddess episodes while 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: working on a sustainable vegetable farm, and I haven't looked back. 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: I recently switched from a career in farming to become 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: a high school science teacher, and I can proudly say 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: that you were pivotal in making that decision. Sharing in 46 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: the joy of investigating curiosities across the natural world, the 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: expansive universe, in our fascinating inner worlds has made such 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: an impact on me. I only hope to bring to 49 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: my students that same level of joy and curiosity. I'm 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: sure your work inspires all sorts of educators across the field. 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: At which field? The bean field? Oh wait, I just realized. 52 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: I think I think I told Matt to keep growing chickpeas. 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: But Matt didn't say he grew chickpeas. He said he 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: grew corn, wheat and soybeans. Sorry, Matt, keep growing those, 55 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: whichever one you like best. Grow the soybeans, love them? 56 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Lagoon faux pas there make me tellfu Alright, anyway, this 57 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: this letter continues, I have two things I'd like to 58 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: share one. I recently listened to the two parter on 59 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: beans and found myself putting my farmer hat back on. Specifically, 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: when you spoke about the storage capacity of the lowly 61 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: being and how crucial that was to the development of 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: settled civilizations, I found myself going back to June afternoons 63 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: in the North Carolina muck. We would often soak dried 64 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: beans before planting them to assist their germination success. This 65 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: got me thinking about something that's always astounded me. How 66 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: does an inert, dried object so obstensibly not alive have 67 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: the capacity to live so vibrantly once it's in the 68 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: right conditions. I would love to hear an episode about 69 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: the magic of germ nation. Not just the mythical and 70 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: metaphorical connotations of seeds giving way to life, but how 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: is it that stale, crusty seeds can suddenly burst into lush, 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: green platforms. That's a great idea. I feel like that's 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: come up in bits and pieces on subjects in the past. 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I know, I know. Um. In a pair of episodes 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: we did about about natural fires, about like fires in 76 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: the forest, we talked about some germination that depends on 77 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: the stimulation of of a forest fire to get going. Yeah, yeah, 78 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: you know, you know, speaking of education and all, I 79 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: think I thought about this but ended up not mentioning 80 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: in the Beans articles Beans episodes rather, but it reminded 81 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: me of those the science experiments that I think a 82 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: lot of us uh conduct when we're children in school, 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: where you take the being and you have it in 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: the zip block bag with some like a wet paper towel, 85 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: and then you watch that germination process take place. Uh 86 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's ultimately such a you know, magical 87 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: feeling and amazing spectacle to watch, and we kind of, 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, we kind of forget it over time, 89 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: We forget how how amazing it is, uh that seeds 90 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: do what they do. It reminds me of in the 91 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 1: office Creed sprouting mung beans on a damp paper towel 92 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: in his desk. Oh man, we I don't think we 93 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: even't got to discussmong beans in those episodes. I had 94 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: like a few notes on mung beans and had some 95 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: a source highlighted, but I just don't think we had 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: time to get into it. Yeah, there are like tons 97 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: of beans we didn't have time to get into. I 98 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: guess We're coming back for three or four or five, six, 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: seven more episodes on beans. The beans saga continued. The 100 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: people want it alright, Spencer continues, though he had to 101 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: two things to bring up. That was just the first 102 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: number two. I went back into the vault and rediscovered 103 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the excellent episode on teething. In this episode, you made 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: a call out to educators, what is it like to 105 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: teach children how to tease? I thought i'd chime in 106 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: with a unique take. Since I've been in a one 107 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: year teacher preparation program that started in a pandemic, I 108 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: have only interacted with my students through zoom and email. 109 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: You can imagine that impedes natural social relationships with anyone, 110 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: but I think this is especially important for young people 111 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: regarding teasing. I don't think you can tease others so 112 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: easily when you've only met online. Not to mention that 113 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: most students keep their cameras off. Yeah, it's also difficult 114 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: to gauge someone's off the record cues for a teasing moment. 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: As a result, my classes have mostly taken a no 116 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: teasing policy. Sometimes a student will chime in a response 117 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: in the zoom chat to other students comments and it 118 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: just seems like bullying. There ain't much of a nuanced 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: way to delineate playful from harmful teasing when you're just 120 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: working with a chat lock. Oh yeah, I can absolutely 121 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: see that. Um. Obviously, good natured teasing can be a 122 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: lot of fun in person, and it's I think it's 123 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: an important thing for the development of kids to like, 124 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, learn learn to tell the difference, to read 125 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: those subtle cues. But that's gonna be a lot harder 126 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: over the internet. Yeah, I mean it's harder for adults too. Yeah, 127 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of us have probably 128 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: encountered that with using zoom for you know, special for 129 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: for social scenarios, catching up with friends and all like. 130 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: It's not the same in so many ways. Anyway, Spencer continues, 131 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: I wonder what the virtual year of education will do 132 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: to our young people, still in their most formative periods 133 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: of social and emotional development. Well, this got rather long winded. 134 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Hope y'all are well. Please keep sharing your curiosity, joy 135 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: and humor with us. It is so necessary. Cheers Spencer, 136 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: ps weirdhouses dope. Well, thank you, Spencer, thanks for for 137 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: writing in with all those thoughts. Yeah, I mean especially, 138 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, open question on what the the the 139 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: the Tela era of of education and work and socialization, 140 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: like what how will we look back on this a 141 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: year from now, two years from now, etcetera. UM, it's uh, 142 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be interesting to to discuss it 143 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: in in here here folks analyzing it. But congrats on 144 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: your move into teaching. That's awesome. Helps sprout those young minds. 145 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: Like mung beans on a damp paper towel, Yes here 146 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: we got one that's sort of beans, but maybe edges 147 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: into weird house cinema. I don't know. This is from 148 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: someone who calls themselves the Golden Sardine. Fair enough, call 149 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: yourself what you want to call yourself, Okay, doky, golden 150 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: Sardine says, how do you again? I guess I don't 151 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: remember the last time they say. Today, I was listening 152 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: to your two parter about beans when you mentioned the 153 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: lack of bean themed horror in cinema. That's right, Yeah, 154 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: I can only think of one horror movie related to beans, 155 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: and that would be My Name is Bruce, starring Bruce Campbell. 156 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: I like to think of it as the unofficial Evil 157 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Dead for The gist of the plot is that a 158 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: bean curd demon is released in a small town. The 159 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: town folks then decided to kidnap Bruce Campbell due to 160 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: his extensive demon fighting experience hijinksin sue. It might not 161 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: be weird house material, but it's at least worth a watch. Anyways. 162 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: I enjoy the show and look forward to future episodes. 163 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: The Golden Sardine. Um, I haven't seen that movie. I 164 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: do enjoy Bruce Campbell and he's a He's a delightful 165 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: ham But that sounds like that's played for comedy, and 166 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: that's not what I had in mind when I was 167 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: saying there should be more being horror. I mean, like 168 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: straight scary being horror. Well, this was not an example 169 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: I was familiar with, but I think it's a solid one. 170 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: But it reminds me of another example. And this is 171 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: not a straight horror film. It's more of a like 172 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: a fantasy film for all ages, but it is. But 173 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: it is by Takashi Mickay, who is kind of a 174 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: notable Japanese filmmaker because of some of the more I 175 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: guess extreme and troubling material that he's created over the years. 176 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: But this one The Great Yokai War from two thousand 177 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 1: five is as I remember it, and it's been a 178 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: little bit more of a family fantasy affair with a 179 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: bunch of Japanese spirits and there's like an evil guy 180 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: that kind of looks like m Bison that they're opposing, 181 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: and I think they if I remember correctly, they end 182 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: up using a zuki beans to defeat the enemy, like 183 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: a zuki beans are the are the are the final 184 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: weapon they turned to and it successfully rids them of 185 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: the demon horror. Well, that sounds interesting, but you're saying 186 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: that that's probably sort of played for for comedy two. 187 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: Mika is all over the map in terms of genre 188 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: and tone, right, Like he does extremely dark, serious, violent, 189 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: nasty horror and like family movies and musicals and comedies 190 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: and stuff. It's it's like everything right, Yeah, Like this 191 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: is a pretty pretty far away from like Audition or 192 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: something like that. This one I think is for the 193 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: for the family. Um, it was played for laughs, but 194 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: it also I think was clearly getting into some of 195 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: those traditions we were talking about earlier about the idea 196 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: that beings have this innate power to dispel demons. If 197 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,359 Speaker 1: you're listening. Whoever you are, film Gearmo del Toro or whatever. Yeah, 198 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: give give us the straight dark bean horror. All right, 199 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: here's one. This one comes to us from Wonco. Uh. 200 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: This one is titled Cats and Humans in Boxes. Hello again, 201 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: Robert and Joe. I'm writing in today with an interesting 202 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: counterpoint to the cats love boxes argument. The wife and 203 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: I live in the employee of three cats. Two of 204 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: them will climb into a box as expected, but the third, 205 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: who is blind, actually has a borderline fear response. My 206 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: theory is that the box is a sudden change to 207 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: her accustomed environment. If we leave it for a while, 208 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: she will begin to investigate. But I have never seen 209 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: her climb into one, nor will she use an enclosed 210 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: litter box. Thanks again, keep up the great work. Welcome. 211 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: That's interesting. I've never heard of that before. I mean, 212 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like, you know, the cats are just 213 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: they're going to break the rules. They're going to break 214 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: your expectations of them. If there's something that is considered 215 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: like a general rule of cats, well a cat will 216 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: come along and violate that rule. Cats love boxes. No, 217 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: you someone out there, you will have the cap that 218 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: of whrrors boxes And there's nothing you can do about it, 219 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: because cats ultimately have the final say. Okay, another one 220 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: about the two parter we did about cats and boxes 221 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: and humans in boxes. This one is from Simon. Simon says, Hi, guys, 222 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: love the podcast. Just wanted to give you a heads 223 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: up on pronunciation from a recent show. The A text 224 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: about how to become an anchor s came up and 225 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: I called it the on cream we's the a n 226 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: c r E n E and then w I S 227 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: s E. But Simon says, the oncream wee popped up 228 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: and you pronounced both words with a silent final e. 229 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: The consensus pronunciation would have those final volves voiced, rather 230 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: like a German speaker might pronounce porsche. I think so. 231 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: I believe it would be on crena wesa I guess 232 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: if if Simon is correct. A great and entertaining resource 233 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: for old English pronunciation is the History of English podcast, 234 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: where this book appears in episode one oh three. Again, 235 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: love the work. Thanks Simon. All right, we had an 236 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: email here from Josh and uh, it's a good email. 237 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to read the whole thing, but I 238 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: do to just to highlight a couple of things they 239 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: bring up that are pretty solid about cats in their boxes. 240 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Because Josh brings up the idea of opening a drawer 241 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: and then taking things out of the drawer, you turn 242 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: around cats in the drawer. I have also observed this 243 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: as well, if the drawer is open and it is 244 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: not like completely stuffed, if the cat is around, the 245 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: cat will just appear. It will summon the cat out 246 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: of out of midair, and then she will climb into 247 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: the drawer. The The other thing that Josh brings up 248 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: is that they think that their own cat when it 249 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: comes to sitting on papers, you know, be at mortgage documents, 250 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: medical bills, etcetera. They say, um, quote, I think this 251 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: is because she can kill two birds with one stone, 252 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: she gets to sit on paper and she gets to 253 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: demand my attention. Uh. And the Josh also included pictures 254 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: of the cat doing just this. Yeah, I hypothesized something 255 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: like this when we were talking about cats on squares 256 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: and stuff that I wonder if a significant amount of 257 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: this is just that the cat notices you paying attention 258 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: to a square of paper or even a square you've 259 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: laid down with tape or something like that, and the 260 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: cat is trying to be in your center of attention. Yeah, 261 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems to be the case at times. 262 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: I know that there are times where the cat want 263 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: I have. I can relate to a cat wanting my 264 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: attention like it wants to be fed. She wants to 265 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: be fed, so she is going to be conspicuous by 266 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: where she is, you know, generally underfoot or crawling on me, 267 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Okay, I got one more though 268 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: about the when you say cats sitting in drawers. I 269 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: just remembered a friend of mine had a cat who 270 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: loved to sit in the bathroom sink. And so if 271 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: you're at his house, every time you go to the 272 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: bathroom you go to wash your hands, the cats there 273 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: in the sink and will not move. Uh So the 274 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: question is do you turn on the water or not? 275 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: It seems like it would be cruel to do so, 276 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: But how else are you gonna wash your hands. I 277 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: have a friend who used to have a cat like 278 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: this that you would go to the sink and the 279 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: cat would be at the sink, and this cat wanted 280 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: you to turn the water on because it also wanted 281 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: to drink the water from the sink. Sure not soapy water, no, No, no, 282 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: the fresh water from this pickett nice, but they didn't 283 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: know how to do it themselves. So you know, it's like, 284 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: clearly go in there. When a human is in there, 285 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: they're going to turn it on. And maybe from the 286 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: cat's point of view, that's why the humans here, Like 287 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: at last, a human has come to give me water 288 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: from the faucet. Alright. Actually, a number of listeners got 289 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: in touch about their about their cats. I'm gonna mentioned 290 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: parts of another email here. This one we got from 291 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: longtime listener shel Dean. Sheldean mentions having four cats in 292 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: her house, and she says they all love boxes to 293 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: some extent. But our oldest cat, Lily, she's fourteen, basically 294 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: lives in a box in the kitchen. We've always thought 295 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: it was a warmth thing, only it's in a corner 296 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: under the radiator. But your episode has made me reconsider this. 297 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: It might also be a social thing. Uh. The Sheldean 298 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: says that apparently she's the dominant cat, though that's based 299 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: on some slew things she did based on a cat 300 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: behavior article she read on the internet, So maybe we 301 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: should take that with a grain of salt um. But 302 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: she says, regardless, the other three cats are male, and 303 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: two of them fight with Lily, So I think her 304 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: behavior might also have a social component. In her box, 305 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: she's out of the way and safe, so that that 306 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: might connect to the thing we talked about in the 307 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: episode where a possible reason cats might see boxes among 308 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: the many others is just a way of mediating social conflict, 309 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, in the box. Getting in the box could 310 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: essentially just be an avoidance behavior to to avoid conflicts. 311 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: Sheldean also says, uh, I think this is picking up 312 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: on the story I had from my childhood where when 313 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: we used to take our cat to the vetch, we 314 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: would take her in a in a cardboard cat carrier 315 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: that had like air holes and everything. But it wasn't 316 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: like the plastic and metal crates of today. It was 317 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: made a cardboard and Sheldean says Joe regarding the cat carriers, 318 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you that before immigrating, my cats regarded 319 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: the cat carriers with dismay when they came out, but 320 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: they would still enter them to explore, which was when 321 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: I would trap them. Since they're very long flight to 322 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: another country. They now regard the carriers with utter terror. 323 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: It's a bit sad that it was so obviously a 324 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: terrifying experience for them. Fortunately, we now have a vet 325 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: who comes to us, so we only need to haul 326 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: out the carriers in an emergency. And touching on the 327 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: need for warmth, we have hammock beds hanging off radiators 328 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: in our home, and I think if I could fit 329 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: in one, I'd find them extremely warm. But the cats 330 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: love the radiators, and she attaches a picture for us 331 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: to look at, and so that goes along with what 332 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: we've been talking about about how often cats will will 333 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: seek out, you know, a hot computer or radiator or anything, 334 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: because in general, if your house is comfortable for humans 335 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: to be in, it's probably too cold for cats. They're 336 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: their therm neutral temperature is much higher than the average 337 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: humans is, you know, on the difference between cats, it 338 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: is interesting to to hear from someone who owns a cat, 339 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: first of all, earlier that the cat wants to drink 340 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: water from a tap. Part of me is just like, 341 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: what was what is that like to have a cat 342 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: that will drink water? That is that not part of 343 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: some meat already? Because it's it's uh, it's always a 344 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: struggle to make sure that our cat has enough water, 345 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: uh in its body, because it doesn't seem interested in 346 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: any water that is not part of meat already. And 347 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: then this idea that like the cap being drawn to 348 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: the radiator, like we we got this heating pad for 349 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: the pet. You know, it's kept it like a low 350 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: temperature to provide some heat, and at best she'll lay 351 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: next to it sometimes like like you know, maybe just 352 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: picking up on some of the ambient heat. But other 353 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: times she seems to be actively avoiding it, as if 354 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: to say, I do not like this. This is this 355 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: is unnatural, and I refuse to set on it. I 356 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe we're doing something wrong. I'm sorry having 357 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: cat problems, man, No no, no, no, I mean she's 358 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: she's all right at the moment. I mean she is 359 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: in general a problem. But um but you know if 360 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: she's great too, so what can you do? One last 361 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: thing Sheldean mentions is the idea that you raised in 362 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: the Cats and Squares episode, uh Rob about the possibility 363 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: And I still think this is a very very good 364 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: idea that that should be explored more, the possibility that 365 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: maybe a lot of cats that live in houses like 366 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: squares and sheets of paper and things like that on 367 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: the ground. Uh, not as an instinctual thing about being 368 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: a cat, but as a conditioned behavior where they've become 369 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: accustomed to sitting on a square of sunlight that pours 370 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: through the window onto the floor to get warm, and 371 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: so now they always think, oh, a square on the floor, 372 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: that that that that will be warm. I do think 373 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: that that that seems very plausible to me. And Sheldean 374 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: says that indeed her cats do follow the squares of 375 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: sun all around the house. That would this would be 376 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: an interesting one to see some some sort of experimentation 377 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: take place, ye figuring out exactly to what extent uh 378 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: they're drawn to the you know, the geometric aspects of 379 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: the light as opposed to just the presence of light 380 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: and warmth. Anyway, Sheldean says, hopefully you guys already know 381 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: that I love the show and appreciate all the effort 382 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: you put in. Best wishes, Sheldan, Uh, Sheldon, Oh, And 383 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: Sheldon has a ps about the the collective noun for cats, 384 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: which she claims, I don't know if she's she's teasing 385 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: us here. She says, the collective noun for cats is 386 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: a clouder c l O W D E er that 387 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: sounds made up, and that for kittens it is a 388 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: kindle also sounds made up. I don't know. I'll take 389 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: your word for it, all right. This one comes to 390 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: us from Carlton. Hello, Robin Joe. I wanted to share 391 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: a connection to your artifact episode titled the Toad Vomit Miracle. 392 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm a middle school reading specialist and I use a 393 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: program with my students to help improve their comprehension which 394 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: features short, high interest passages. One of them, which happens 395 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: to be a student favorite, is called frog Vomit. I 396 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: have included the text below. The program is grounded in 397 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: dual coding theory to help facilitate improvements in reading comprehension 398 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: through the use of mental imagery. In order to accomplish this, 399 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: the students spend lots of time reading, visualized and talking 400 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: about passages written to stimulate visual imagery. The striking imagery 401 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: of a frog or toad vomiting up its own stomach 402 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: and using its quote unquote hands to scrape out the 403 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: contents is usually very effective. The way I check for 404 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: understanding is by asking my students to show me a 405 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: hand motion of the hands scraping the stomach if their 406 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: hands are in the right place where a stomach would 407 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: dangle from their mouths making a scraping down and out motion, 408 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: and they are giggling that I know they have created 409 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: a strong mental image of the concept, or a castalt 410 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: as the program describes. I was so excited to listen 411 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: to an episode about a topic that I have had 412 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: the joy of helping students cover through reading. On that note, 413 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: have you considered an episode about the science of reading. 414 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: It's an extremely broad reaching topic with plenty of controversy, 415 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: and there have been time periods described as the Reading 416 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: Wars where proponents of science and popular practices clashed. The 417 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: raise science of reading is a hot topic and education 418 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: right now as well. I would love to hear you 419 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: guys discuss the multiple topics it could bring up. Recently, 420 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: I have been super interested in how the dyslexic brain works. 421 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: The amount of cognitive processes that happened before we construct 422 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: meaning from print is not only amazing, but also something 423 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: our brains aren't actually designed to do. I often wonder 424 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: what life would be like for my students with dyslexia 425 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: if they lived in a time or alternate reality where 426 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: the printed word was not such a ubiquitous and important 427 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: feature of our society. On another note, and to connect 428 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: to a previous episode, and I am thinking of this 429 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: as I write this. I wonder how a corpus colostodomy 430 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: this to remind everybody, this is the when the corpus 431 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: colossum between the two hemispheres of the brain is severed 432 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: um as a medical intervention. Um they ask how this 433 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: affects reading and if it would affect a dyslexic brain's 434 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: ability to read in a different way. Anyways, thank you 435 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: for the awesome show, and hope you get a chance 436 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: to read this, Carlton. And then they include that bit 437 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: of text. This is the text that again Carlton is 438 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: using in these uh these exercises to to stimulate mental 439 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: imagery and the red in the young reader's brain. It 440 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: goes as follows. When a frog has eaten something that 441 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: makes him feel sick, he vomits up his entire stomach. 442 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: He heaves until his stomach flops out and dangles from 443 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: his mouth like a sack. Then he reaches up with 444 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: his four legs and scrapes out the stomach sickening contents. 445 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Once the stomach is clean and empty, he swallows it 446 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: down again. Dude, you did that like the narrator of 447 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: Beast of Yucca Flats. That's really good, caught in the 448 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: wheels of vomit. I have to say, though, reading that, 449 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: the frog I'm pick picturing doing it is like the 450 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: like a Mr. Toad's wild Ride, kind of a frog 451 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: with a hat and suit and an old timey car 452 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: automobile behind him on the road. I don't know why 453 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say the frog your 454 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: pick ring was Tour Johnson, so you know he's maybe 455 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: he's kind of he had kind of a frog like appearance, 456 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: didn't he. But no, I think maybe it's the mention 457 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: to the hands. Actually you mentioned frogs. You mentioned hands. 458 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: That makes me think Mr. Toad's wild Ride and related media. 459 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: And then therefore, when we get into this description here, 460 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: that's what I'm picturing. I'm not picturing an actual frog 461 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: doing it, though of course actual frogs do this all 462 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: the time. I'm picturing a cartoon frog doing it with 463 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: his cartoon human hands. My much less cultured brain, I 464 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: think pictures the frog character from Chrono Trigger. I don't 465 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: know this frog, you know, played Chrono Trigger for the 466 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: s and e s No, no I had I had 467 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: to say of Genesis, So I missed out on some 468 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: of this. You know, Rob, I was playing Altered Beast. 469 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: Oh altered. Well that's a good one too, when you 470 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: go into beast mode. But uh, but but but and 471 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: not to be like that. Oh, you gotta play this 472 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: RPG guy. Butchrono Trigger really is magical. It's worth going 473 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: back to revisit if you finally getting later of it 474 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: or something. It's it's great. Okay, one last one here. 475 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: This is about weird house cinema and it's from Ryan. 476 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: Ryan says, Hi, Joe and Rob. Not sure if this 477 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: movie is B enough, but have you seen Wavelength? I 478 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: believe it was from either eighty one or a D two. 479 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: Actually I think I looked it up and it's eighty three, 480 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: but Ryan says, and features one of the Carrateen brothers 481 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: and Sherry Curie from Joan Jet and the Black Hearts. 482 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: It also features a soundtrack by Tangerine Dream. I know 483 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: you know the key to Rob's hard here, Uh, Ryan says, 484 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: I drive for Lift and always have you guys delivering 485 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: excellent content through my earbud. Thanks for the awesome shows 486 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to many more. Ryan, Well, I 487 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: have not seen Wavelength, but I looked it up and 488 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: the first thing I saw was the poster, which is fabulous, 489 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: as like these pods with extraterrestrials like stuck in them 490 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: are preserved in them. I'm not sure which so great 491 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: poster throwing a Tangerine Dream score in a less or 492 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: Karendy brother and my curiosity is certainly raised, though, I'm 493 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to put it on the potential list. This 494 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: is one of those that has two different taglines on 495 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: the same poster that always to me seems it signals 496 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: marketing insecurity. So one of them is up near the 497 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: top and it goes two weeks ago they landed on 498 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: Earth today beneath an American city. The experiments begin dot 499 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: dot dot, but then down at the bottom right it 500 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: says the alien terror is here on Earth exclamation point. 501 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm not neither one is very good, but they kind 502 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: of don't complement. Yeah, at any rate, it looks interesting, 503 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it sounds very interesting what with the 504 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: Tangerine Dream. I'd give it a go. All right, Well 505 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: that's the end of this mail bag. 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