Speaker 1: Most people lose their free will to those programs, and
Speaker 1: it's that uncompromising will where you keep training the animal
Speaker 1: to stay, to get beyond all the cravings, feelings, the
Speaker 1: habits of the body and catch yourself.
Speaker 2: The best selling authoring the most the number one healthy
Speaker 2: well inness podcast On Purpose.
Speaker 1: With Jay Shetty.
Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one
Speaker 2: health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every
Speaker 2: one of you that come back every week to become happier,
Speaker 2: healthier and more healed. Now, today's guest is a favorite
Speaker 2: of favorite, someone that I know you crave to come
Speaker 2: back onto the show. I know that you're always excited
Speaker 2: when I get to sit down with him. This is
Speaker 2: our third interview, I believe in as many years, and
Speaker 2: I can't wait because there's some phenomenal research that he
Speaker 2: and his team have done that will be extrapolating and
Speaker 2: extracting from today's as well. Now, today's guest who I'm
Speaker 2: talking about is Dr Joe Dispenser. His passion can be
Speaker 2: found at the intersection of the latest findings from the
Speaker 2: fields of neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics to explore the
Speaker 2: science behind spontaneous remissions. Doctor Joe uses that knowledge to
Speaker 2: teach people how to heal from their bodies of health conditions,
Speaker 2: make significant changes in their lives, and evolve their consciousness.
Speaker 2: Doctor Joe is a New York Times best selling author, researcher, lecturer,
Speaker 2: and corporate consultant, and he released his most recent project
Speaker 2: called Inspire music and guidance to accompany the breath called
Speaker 2: Pulling the Mind Out of the Body. I can't wait
Speaker 2: for you to check it out. Welcome to the episode
Speaker 2: and podcast, Doctor Joe Dispenser. Joe, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Good to see you for being here.
Speaker 2: It's always good to see you, Always great to see
Speaker 2: you. You look really well.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Uh. And I want to say this online as well,
Speaker 2: because I want people to hear about love. I love
Speaker 2: getting people to hear about what people are like offline.
Speaker 2: You know, everyone watches your videos, they read your books,
Speaker 2: they listen to your meditations, and I encourage them to continue.
Speaker 1: To do so.
Speaker 2: But maybe probably around like seven eight months ago, I
Speaker 2: reached out to you personally because I had someone in
Speaker 2: my life who deeply needed your support. And they're a
Speaker 2: follower and a fan of yours and they've lived an
Speaker 2: incredibly service based life as well, and I wouldn't necessarily
Speaker 2: just reach out, but I felt compelled by the people
Speaker 2: in my life I reached out to you. Not only
Speaker 2: were you extremely responsive and immediate and fast, your team
Speaker 2: took such good care of them as well, And it
Speaker 2: was all last minute. It wasn't convenient to you, So
Speaker 2: I just wanted everyone to also know that offline, the
Speaker 2: love and care and compassion with which you work is
Speaker 2: really beautiful. So thank you so much for doing that.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the compliment, Jay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, let's dive in today. There's so many things
Speaker 2: I want to talk about from I want to talk
Speaker 2: about about the heart, I want to talk about the brain.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about breathwork and meditation and the
Speaker 2: amazing research you've done. The first thing I want to
Speaker 2: start with, though, which is something that I've been really
Speaker 2: fascinated by recently, is I think the most beautiful and
Speaker 2: powerful thing in the world is a repetitive thought. But
Speaker 2: sometimes the most dangerous thing in the world is a
Speaker 2: repetitive thought. Absolutely, and we think about the most beautiful
Speaker 2: things we create is because we're obsessed with this new
Speaker 2: idea and this new thought that we want to build something.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, we know countless people who
Speaker 2: they have a thought every day that says, I'm unlovable,
Speaker 2: I'm unworthy, I don't deserve love in my life. If
Speaker 2: someone's having a negative, repetitive thought specifically around self worth,
Speaker 2: what they believe they deserve in love, where do they
Speaker 2: start with that thought?
Speaker 1: Well, we think primarily ninety percent of the time, we
Speaker 1: think the same thoughts as we thought the day before.
Speaker 1: The challenge with that is the thought that you keep
Speaker 1: thinking over and over again comes a belief and nerve
Speaker 1: cells that fire together wire together. So the more nerve
Speaker 1: cells fire, the more they develop long term relationships, and
Speaker 1: the more hardwired they become. The more hardwired they become,
Speaker 1: the more automatic they are. The more automatic they are,
Speaker 1: the more unconscious they become. So the process of change
Speaker 1: really requires becoming conscious of your unconscious thoughts, which means
Speaker 1: just because you have that thought doesn't necessarily mean it's
Speaker 1: the truth. If you have that thought and you accept it,
Speaker 1: you believe it, you surrender to it without analyzing it,
Speaker 1: that thought will lead to the same choice, which will
Speaker 1: lead to the same behavior, which will create the same experience,
Speaker 1: which then will produce the same emotion. The same emotions
Speaker 1: then drive our very same thoughts in time. Our biology
Speaker 1: are in our circuitry or in our chemistry or hormones,
Speaker 1: and even our gene expression stays the same because we're
Speaker 1: the same. So in the process of change, when you
Speaker 1: come up against that unconscious belief and you make it conscious,
Speaker 1: most people get uncomfortable when they confront that thought, and
Speaker 1: they're stopping an automatic process. And the body, which has
Speaker 1: been conditioned to be the mind, because it's doing something
Speaker 1: over and over again, that's a habit, is craving the
Speaker 1: experience because it wants the emotion associated with it. Right,
Speaker 1: So the thought of being unworthy produces the feeling of
Speaker 1: being unworthy. That feeling, then when the person feels unworthy,
Speaker 1: tends to cause the person to think more unworthy thoughts.
Speaker 1: It only takes a thought and a feeling, an image
Speaker 1: of yourself, and an emotion, a stimulus and response, and
Speaker 1: you can condition the body to memorize that behavior and
Speaker 1: that emotional state better than the conscious mind. So the
Speaker 1: moment we inhibit that thought or the moment we become
Speaker 1: conscious of it and we no longer accept it. There's
Speaker 1: a biological craving that takes place in the body because
Speaker 1: the body has been conditioned to be the mind. So
Speaker 1: the body starts influencing the mind to think more corresponding
Speaker 1: thoughts equal to that feeling. So here comes the assault,
Speaker 1: and you're not only unworthy, you're everything else that goes
Speaker 1: along with that feeling. And this is where people have
Speaker 1: to make up their mind that if they truly want
Speaker 1: to change, Because if you decide to confront that thought
Speaker 1: and make a different choice, get ready, because you're going
Speaker 1: to feel uncomfortable. It's going to feel unfamiliar, and there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some uncertainty because you're stepping out of familiar territory. Now,
Speaker 1: you're stepping out of the known and you're stepping into
Speaker 1: the unknown. Now this is really when you leave the
Speaker 1: bleachers and you get on the playing field, because the
Speaker 1: brain immediately looks around in its environment to see if
Speaker 1: anything's changing because you're changing, and you see that nothing
Speaker 1: in your world is changing because you actually haven't fully
Speaker 1: changed yet. So the moment, we look for evidence in
Speaker 1: our life and we don't see it. Sooner or later,
Speaker 1: most people accept that thought, which leads to the same choice,
Speaker 1: which creates the same behavior, which creates the same experience,
Speaker 1: that produces the same feeling, and then they say, oh,
Speaker 1: this feels right to me. Now that feels familiar because
Speaker 1: you've just returned back to the known self. I think
Speaker 1: that when people truly want to make up their mind
Speaker 1: to change, and they become so conscious of those unconscious thoughts,
Speaker 1: they would never go unconscious to them. Again, that's the
Speaker 1: moment the body is being reconditioned to a new mind.
Speaker 1: If you inhibit that choice that leads to that habit
Speaker 1: or that behavior. A habit is when you've done something
Speaker 1: so many times the body knows how to do it
Speaker 1: better than the brain. Now you're stopping the body from
Speaker 1: being on its automation, on autopilot. And if the body's
Speaker 1: craving the feeling of unworthiness, and you're stopping the body
Speaker 1: from feeling that way, and you're aware in your life
Speaker 1: how you speak, you're aware in your life how you're feeling,
Speaker 1: and you're checking in you're saying, do I really want
Speaker 1: to feel this way? This is that river of change
Speaker 1: where you're going from the old self to the new self.
Speaker 1: So it makes sense then if those prints and biology
Speaker 1: you work in that way, they could actually work in
Speaker 1: our favor. So if you said, Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: sit down for a few minutes, I'm going to come
Speaker 1: so conscious of my unconscious self, my unconscious personality, that
Speaker 1: victory today would not be going unconscious to those thoughts,
Speaker 1: behaviors and emotions. Okay, let me get so familiar with
Speaker 1: them that I don't go unconscious. Okay, I got that down. Now,
Speaker 1: what thoughts do I want to fire and wire in
Speaker 1: my brain? And if a belief is a thought that
Speaker 1: you keep thinking over and over again with intention and
Speaker 1: with attention, you'll switch on that prefrontal cortex and assign
Speaker 1: meaning to the act and start installing new circuits in
Speaker 1: your brain. If you keep doing it over and over again,
Speaker 1: it becomes more hardwired, it becomes more automatic. And now
Speaker 1: you're installing a new belief that you are worthy of love,
Speaker 1: you are worthy of abundance, you are worthy to heal,
Speaker 1: whatever that is. That's the thought you do want to
Speaker 1: believe in. And when it matters the most is when
Speaker 1: it's the hardest, because if you don't have the circuitry
Speaker 1: in place, you'll default back to the old programs. Right, So,
Speaker 1: then if you said, how am I going to be
Speaker 1: in my zoom calls today? How am I going to
Speaker 1: be in traffic today? How am I going to be
Speaker 1: with my ex my coworkers? And you started thinking about
Speaker 1: and rehearsing how you are going to act in certain situations.
Speaker 1: The brain actually doesn't know the difference between the real
Speaker 1: life experience and what you're imagining. The research on mental
Speaker 1: rehearsal shows that the brain will look like in time
Speaker 1: that it's already had the experience and it's vacant of
Speaker 1: the experience. Now, keep firing and wiring those circuits and
Speaker 1: you're going to begin to behave that way. So now
Speaker 1: you're installing circuitry now to use in your life to
Speaker 1: get your behaviors to match your intentions. You said, how
Speaker 1: would it feel to feel worthy of love? How would
Speaker 1: it feel to be grateful for life? How would it
Speaker 1: feel to be worthy of abundance? And you said, I'm
Speaker 1: going to teach my body emotionally what this feels like
Speaker 1: before the manifestation of the event. You're not waiting for
Speaker 1: your life to change to feel worthy. You're actually changing
Speaker 1: your life by becoming worthy. You're generating abundance, You're generating love,
Speaker 1: You're creating an elevated emotion. Now, our data is so
Speaker 1: compelling because when you truly begin to elevate your emotional
Speaker 1: state and you could really lock in, you know, to
Speaker 1: those elevated emotions. Your body is so objective that it
Speaker 1: actually believes that it's living in a whole new environment
Speaker 1: before the environment changes. In other words, the body's believing
Speaker 1: it's in that new future. And if the environment signals
Speaker 1: the gene and it does, and the end product of
Speaker 1: an experience in the environment is an emotion, you're actually
Speaker 1: signaling genes ahead of the environment, and your body will
Speaker 1: begin to become conditioned to a new mind. Now, think
Speaker 1: about this, if you did that every day. The word
Speaker 1: meditation literally means become familiar with You become familamiliar with
Speaker 1: your old self. You become familiar with your new self.
Speaker 1: And you say, I'm not getting up until I feel
Speaker 1: this feeling. And then you'd say, I want to be
Speaker 1: able to bring this feeling up whenever I want. I'm
Speaker 1: going to keep remembering this feeling over and over again.
Speaker 1: Only it takes a thought and a feeling an image
Speaker 1: of the future, and emotion is stimness. In response, you
Speaker 1: can condition your body to believe it's living in a
Speaker 1: whole new life. And when you feel the emotions of
Speaker 1: your future, something amazing happens. You're no longer in lack
Speaker 1: or separation, so you're no longer looking for the event
Speaker 1: to take away that feeling of lack or separation. Your
Speaker 1: body's actually believe it's in the event, So then you're
Speaker 1: not looking for it. You feel like it's already happened.
Speaker 1: Get ready, because that's when your life begins to change.
Speaker 1: And so we've discovered that if you're actually practicing this
Speaker 1: and you immerse yourself in that experience fully for seven days,
Speaker 1: the amount of metabolic and biological changes that will take
Speaker 1: place in your body will be so significant that your
Speaker 1: body will actually believe it's living in that future. And
Speaker 1: yet most of the people that come to our workshops
Speaker 1: are literally in a ballroom. There's nothing really exciting happening
Speaker 1: in the environment, but their bodies believing they're living in
Speaker 1: a whole new life. And so one thought leads to
Speaker 1: a choice, which leads to behavior, which creates an experience
Speaker 1: that produces an emotion. So then new information, new knowledge,
Speaker 1: begins to cause you to think differently. If you can
Speaker 1: remember that knowledge and begin to make a different choice.
Speaker 1: Because you want to experience the truth of that information,
Speaker 1: you'll have to behave differently. And when the experience occurs
Speaker 1: and you feel the feeling of your abundance or wealth,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you you're going to continue wanting to make
Speaker 1: the process of change something consistent in your life.
Speaker 2: This is why I love talking to you. I mean
Speaker 2: that literally, you could just well, you just said there.
Speaker 2: I hope everyone listens to it again and again and again,
Speaker 2: and partly I think there's something to be said for that.
Speaker 2: The best thing that have rewired my brain and my
Speaker 2: mind were things that I repeated daily. I took something
Speaker 2: that I loved listening to or loved learning or reading
Speaker 2: a paragraph of a book, and I would literally just
Speaker 2: reprogram myself by giving that to my mind every single day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and as I'm listening to you talk, I think there's
Speaker 2: a few really powerful things I wanted to pull out.
Speaker 2: When I lived as a monk and studied the Vaders,
Speaker 2: they would talk about thoughts in different modes. And there
Speaker 2: are three modes, the mode of ignorance, the motive passion,
Speaker 2: and the mode of goodness. And there's a hierarchy to
Speaker 2: those thoughts, and so the mode of ignorance would be
Speaker 2: an unfulfilling thought or a completely fear or in security
Speaker 2: based thought, which would be I am not worthy or
Speaker 2: I am unlucky, and I can't do that. I can't
Speaker 2: be in love, no one can be in love with me.
Speaker 2: That's like a mode of ignorance thought. A mode of
Speaker 2: passion thought would be I can be in love with
Speaker 2: anyone I want, and I can find anything. And it's
Speaker 2: almost like you know you're lying to yourself. You haven't
Speaker 2: really you haven't really applied what you're saying, and it's
Speaker 2: just this big, bold statement, but it doesn't quite sit
Speaker 2: and resonate. And the goodness thought is I can take
Speaker 2: steps daily to create love in my life right now.
Speaker 2: And you start to see how people would often look
Speaker 2: at what we're saying and they think, oh, it's just
Speaker 2: positive thinking.
Speaker 1: It isn't.
Speaker 2: It's not just a false statement. What you're saying is
Speaker 2: what you two words you used, intension and attention. You're
Speaker 2: actually being conscious about where that intention and the attention
Speaker 2: is being placed. You're intending that if I do something
Speaker 2: every day and I place my attention on XYZ, then
Speaker 2: I can create this new reality for myself. Whenever I
Speaker 2: have a tough conversation, coming out a tough meeting, something difficult,
Speaker 2: I'll rehearse it in my head. And you're so right
Speaker 2: that you can prepare for the future. Even when I
Speaker 2: do skydiving or if I'm sitting in a cold plunge,
Speaker 2: I'm preparing my mind before I even do it. There's
Speaker 2: no point of just jumping in and diving in. I
Speaker 2: think what's really interesting is that partly a lot of
Speaker 2: the anxiety and stress we feel is because we kind
Speaker 2: of hope that will never feel anxiety and stress again.
Speaker 2: So there's a sense of like, Okay, I can get
Speaker 2: to a place where I never experience anxiety. I almost
Speaker 2: think that that sets us up to be more hurt
Speaker 2: by the anxiety and inevitable uncertainty will feel.
Speaker 1: I would love to hear your too, gosh me, I
Speaker 1: love to respond. Three thoughts going on at the same time.
Speaker 1: Do it so to fulfill the first part of that question.
Speaker 1: It's an experiment, right, It's an experiment. Life is an experiment.
Speaker 1: So if your personality creates your personal reality, and your
Speaker 1: personality is made up of how you think, how you act,
Speaker 1: and how you feel, If you keep thinking the same way,
Speaker 1: you keep acting the same way, you keep feeling the
Speaker 1: same way, your life is going to stay the same
Speaker 1: because you're the same. So the experiment is, okay, let
Speaker 1: me begin to think differently. So I got remind myself
Speaker 1: how I do want to think, and I have to
Speaker 1: remind myself of how I no longer want to think,
Speaker 1: so I don't default and go unconscious. Let me remind
Speaker 1: myself how I'm going to behave so that I could
Speaker 1: actually get my behaviors to match my intentions, and let
Speaker 1: me remind myself of how I'm gonna feel. If I'm
Speaker 1: able to succeed in that day, then there should be
Speaker 1: some change in my life. That is the experiment. And
Speaker 1: if it doesn't change, that doesn't mean the law doesn't
Speaker 1: work for you. It's just you're not that good yet.
Speaker 1: It just you just got to keep practicing. Right. So
Speaker 1: the act of disconnecting from your life long enough to
Speaker 1: remind yourself of who you do want to be and
Speaker 1: who you no longer want to be. That experiment, then,
Speaker 1: is the experiment called life. Now, it's not that you react.
Speaker 1: The question is how long are you going to react?
Speaker 1: That's the real question. Because I mean I react all
Speaker 1: the time, what everybody does. But if you're going to
Speaker 1: stay there and you're going to live in that emotional state,
Speaker 1: you will see life through that lens of that emotion. Right. So,
Speaker 1: now it gets complicated because the stronger the you feel
Speaker 1: towards certain people or problems in your life, the more
Speaker 1: you pay attention to then, and where you place your
Speaker 1: attention is where you place your energy. So from a
Speaker 1: purely biological as well as quantum state, we could say,
Speaker 1: then you're using that person or that circumstance to reaffirm
Speaker 1: your dependence on feeling that emotion. So you have to
Speaker 1: hate your enemy, and if your enemy dies, you'll find
Speaker 1: another person to hate, because that is the response. Right.
Speaker 1: So the body is the animal. It's been conditioned a
Speaker 1: certain way, and if it's been doing something and feeling
Speaker 1: something for an extended period of time, there's a modification
Speaker 1: of its receptor sites. It's needing those emotional states. So
Speaker 1: in the process of change, just be ready because you're
Speaker 1: going to feel uncomfortable a lot of the time. Now,
Speaker 1: the question is do you want to stay there? So
Speaker 1: then most people think they don't have any control over
Speaker 1: their emotional Stanley think I'm just this way and I
Speaker 1: feel this way. Well, we actually can show people that
Speaker 1: that's not the truth. That when it's the hardest, it
Speaker 1: matters the most. And if you're able to really work
Speaker 1: and train your body like you're training an animal to
Speaker 1: stop feeling one way and start feeling another way. If
Speaker 1: you believe that you're an eternal being, let's just say that,
Speaker 1: I mean just most religions talk about we're eternal, and
Speaker 1: most sects of thought, there are only a few that don't.
Speaker 1: Whether you're going to heaven or hell, or Nirvana or
Speaker 1: on the wheel, you're pretty much going to be around
Speaker 1: for a long time. That moment matters so much in
Speaker 1: the light of eternity, because that's the moment you make
Speaker 1: up your mind to no longer be defined by your past.
Speaker 1: Why are you being defined by your past? Because emotions
Speaker 1: are a record of the past, and so then if
Speaker 1: you're feeling that emotion, your body is believing it's back
Speaker 1: in that same experience of the past. So the more
Speaker 1: knowledge that we have and understand that justified valid or not,
Speaker 1: those emotions are hurting no other person but you, because
Speaker 1: the long term effects of living by those emotional states,
Speaker 1: Those survival states are actually down regulating genes and creating diseases.
Speaker 1: Sooner or later, you're going to have to ask yourself,
Speaker 1: is this loving to myself? And forgiveness is just when
Speaker 1: you overcome the emotion, you take your attention off that
Speaker 1: person or that problem. You're freeing yourself and you're freeing them.
Speaker 1: So people do the best with what they think is available.
Speaker 1: That's my belief. And if you're unaware that you can
Speaker 1: control your emotional states, you'll rely on something outside of
Speaker 1: you to do that. Whether it's a computer game, whether
Speaker 1: it's a Netflix show, and whether it's a drug, whatever
Speaker 1: it is that you need to make that feeling go away,
Speaker 1: you're dependent on your outer world. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a hypnosis. That's a conditioning. Teach people that you can
Speaker 1: actually regulate and change your emotional states, you give them
Speaker 1: the tools to literally step into a new future. So
Speaker 1: that process, of course, is extremely uncomfortable, and the question
Speaker 1: is how long are you going to stay in that
Speaker 1: emotional state? And fifty percent of the story that most
Speaker 1: people tell about that past experience isn't even the truth
Speaker 1: because they're making things up, and they're doing that so
Speaker 1: that they can justify why they haven't changed since some
Speaker 1: past event. Most people reach a point in their life
Speaker 1: where they reach crisis or disease or diagnosis or loss
Speaker 1: or betrayal where they finally go, gosh, it's time to change.
Speaker 1: I think change is an ongoing process, and the more
Speaker 1: we change, the more we should see evidence in our
Speaker 1: life that makes it exciting.
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Speaker 2: you're right that I've thought about this for a while
Speaker 2: that I feel most people know that they want to change,
Speaker 2: and most people know what they want to change, but
Speaker 2: they still struggle to make a change. And so I
Speaker 2: found that we don't often have a values crisis, we
Speaker 2: have a habits crisis because people don't add to reprogram
Speaker 2: their habits and they've started to assume that the way
Speaker 2: they feel is who they are. And I wonder how
Speaker 2: you think about this, because I think we're living at
Speaker 2: a time where what you just said is like you
Speaker 2: either kind of find a way to numb your feelings,
Speaker 2: so you're turning towards something external to numb how you feel,
Speaker 2: or today we're being told, well, feel every feeling and
Speaker 2: emotion completely, and then often we don't kind of get
Speaker 2: to the reprogramming phase. So I guess, how do you
Speaker 2: know how long to take a feeling seriously effectively and
Speaker 2: assessing it before you kind of take action on it.
Speaker 1: Feelings and emotions are the end product of past experiences,
Speaker 1: and we can remember experiences better because we can remember
Speaker 1: how they feel. The stronger the emotion we have to
Speaker 1: some experience in our life, the more altered we are
Speaker 1: inside of us, the more the brain freezes a frame
Speaker 1: and takes a snapshot, and that's called a long term memory.
Speaker 1: That image is being bossed neurologically in the brain. So
Speaker 1: then what most people don't know is that every time
Speaker 1: they remember that event, that trauma, that betrayal, that loss,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, they're producing the same chemistry and their
Speaker 1: brain and body as if the event is occurring. So
Speaker 1: what happens over time is that conditioning process conditions the
Speaker 1: body to literally live in the past. So if a
Speaker 1: person is living by the same familiar feeling every single day,
Speaker 1: whether it's guilt or unworthiness, or pain or suffering or
Speaker 1: victimization or depression or whatever it is, it's so important
Speaker 1: for them to come right up against that emotional state.
Speaker 1: Because they're coming up against the known, the question fundamentally
Speaker 1: becomes for that person, is it possible then to feel
Speaker 1: a different feeling? Now, if you cannot feel a different
Speaker 1: feeling other than the feeling that you're used to feeling,
Speaker 1: it should tell you volumes a that feeling quiz. It's
Speaker 1: going to influence your very same thoughts. So the research
Speaker 1: that we've done over and over again is that the
Speaker 1: only way you're actually going to reprogram your brain to
Speaker 1: work in your favor is you've got to learn how
Speaker 1: to regulate your brain waves. And you know this, of course.
Speaker 1: Beta brainwave patterns are thinking brainwave patterns. It's the analytical mind.
Speaker 1: It's our critical facilities that we're in beta right now,
Speaker 1: we're aware of our bodies, we're aware of the environment,
Speaker 1: we're aware of time. The new cortex has switched on.
Speaker 1: It's what plugs us into three dimensional reality. It's the
Speaker 1: seat of the autobiographical self. There's a lot of circuits
Speaker 1: in there from things you've learned intellectually and things you've
Speaker 1: experienced in your life. So for the most part, it's
Speaker 1: a repository of the past, right, And so ninety percent
Speaker 1: of those thoughts that we think, being the same thoughts
Speaker 1: as the day before, tend to become like automatic programs,
Speaker 1: and they become more subconscious and more unconscious. So in
Speaker 1: order for us to begin to change those programs, we
Speaker 1: got to get into the operating system. And the only
Speaker 1: way we do that is we've got to slow our
Speaker 1: brain waves down in that thinking neo cortex. The challenge
Speaker 1: for most people is they have so many demands in
Speaker 1: their life, they have so many emotional responses to circumstances
Speaker 1: in their life that they're living in a state of
Speaker 1: stress and living in the state of survival. And state
Speaker 1: of stress and survival, you don't close your eyes. You
Speaker 1: got to keep your eye on the ball. You got
Speaker 1: to keep your attention on the outer environment. So their
Speaker 1: brains tend to work in a higher brainwave pattern, a
Speaker 1: mid range or high level beta brainwave pattern, and that's
Speaker 1: like driving your sports car in first gear. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of energy for the brain. So learning how to
Speaker 1: regulate and slow your brain waves down is something that
Speaker 1: we've been very, very interested in. When you teach people
Speaker 1: how to do that, it could become a skill. And
Speaker 1: when the brain starts to relax and it moves into
Speaker 1: less of that chatter that takes place in your brain
Speaker 1: and more of an imaginary state the brain sees in
Speaker 1: pictures and images, it's more creative. We're moving into that
Speaker 1: alpha state. So now the door between the conscious mind
Speaker 1: and the subconscious mind opens up as we get beyond
Speaker 1: our analytical mind, and our analytical mind is actually what
Speaker 1: separates the conscious mind from the subconscious mind. So as
Speaker 1: you slow your brain waves down and you get into alpha,
Speaker 1: you're entering the operating system. And that's where you can
Speaker 1: rewrite a new program. That's where you can rehearse a
Speaker 1: new script. That's where you can begin to plan your
Speaker 1: behaviors in an intentional way. If you can't change your
Speaker 1: brain waves, then it's like your computer running a mock
Speaker 1: with all of those programs and you yelling at it
Speaker 1: telling it to stop. You're not in the operating system.
Speaker 1: Some people can get to the point where they're so
Speaker 1: relaxed that the body's in a light sleep, and yet
Speaker 1: they're conscious and awaken. Now they're in this Theata brain
Speaker 1: wave pattern and in Theta that's a hypnotic state. We're
Speaker 1: very suggestible to our thought, we're very suggestible to information
Speaker 1: in that state, and that state then is where we
Speaker 1: see the most change take place. And so the person
Speaker 1: can literally change from the inside out. When they learn
Speaker 1: how to get into the operating system, you've.
Speaker 2: Just hit the node on the head. With the constant experience.
Speaker 2: Everyone has to think again, going back to what I
Speaker 2: was saying that when we're trying to make a change,
Speaker 2: the thing that blocks us from making the change is
Speaker 2: usually stress. If I'm trying to be a kind, loving,
Speaker 2: compassionate person, but I'm stressed out, I'm likelier to be
Speaker 2: snappy and rude and condescending. If I'm trying to be
Speaker 2: healthier in my diet, but I'm stressed out or burnt out,
Speaker 2: I'm going to reach for the sugary food or the
Speaker 2: cobs in the fat like that doesn't come from anything
Speaker 2: else but stress.
Speaker 1: To take away the feeling, to take away the fee,
Speaker 1: take away the feeling. Right, Yeah, So let's get real clear,
Speaker 1: because I think it's important for people to understand what
Speaker 1: we're talking about, the stress, and we're talking about living
Speaker 1: in survival. It's so important to name those emotions because
Speaker 1: anger and frustration and control and hatred and envy and
Speaker 1: jealousy and insecurity and unworthiness and guilt and shame and
Speaker 1: suffering and depression, those are all derived Those are emotions
Speaker 1: that are derived from the harmones of stress, and psychology
Speaker 1: calls those normal states of consciousness. Those are altered states
Speaker 1: of consciousness because in stress, the physiology is that we're
Speaker 1: not out of homeostasis, we're not out of balance because
Speaker 1: we perceiving some threat, some danger, some emergency. And so
Speaker 1: the stronger the emotion you feel to whatever stress or
Speaker 1: there is in your life, the more you pay attention
Speaker 1: to it. And so in time, then you have to
Speaker 1: keep your attention on all the important elements in your life.
Speaker 1: So you sit down to do a meditation, and when
Speaker 1: you're living in stress and you're living in survival, there's
Speaker 1: only three things that are important in that moment. Your
Speaker 1: attention is on your body because you've got to preserve it.
Speaker 1: Your attention is on something in your environment. And what's
Speaker 1: in your environment people, objects, things, places, and you're very
Speaker 1: preoccupied with time. And when you're in stress and you're
Speaker 1: in survival, the brain goes onto a default mode and
Speaker 1: it's naturally trying to predict the next moment based on
Speaker 1: what it's learned in the past. And so as you
Speaker 1: always try to forecast the future based on your memory
Speaker 1: of the past, you can't be in the present moment,
Speaker 1: right So, and yet our model of change, what we
Speaker 1: discovered is that the only way a person can change
Speaker 1: is when they get beyond their body. They get beyond
Speaker 1: all the elements of their environment, and they get beyond
Speaker 1: that predictable fusion and familiar past, and they sink into
Speaker 1: the present moment, which is the unknown. So if you
Speaker 1: can't do that because of the hormones of stress, most
Speaker 1: people will sit down and they'll say, oh, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna close my eyes. I'm going to start this process
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna rehearse how I'm going to be today,
Speaker 1: and they start thinking about their cell phone, they start
Speaker 1: thinking about all their emails, and they start thinking, I
Speaker 1: can't meditate. There's something wrong with me. It's my mother's fault,
Speaker 1: you know. And they actually believe that thought to be
Speaker 1: the truth. And then they get up and they they
Speaker 1: actually reaffirm it, and they say, I can't meditate. Now. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that if you are willing to see
Speaker 1: that thought is just the thought in your brain and
Speaker 1: you're curious what's on the other side of that thought. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're going to feel uncomfortable. But if you had some
Speaker 1: tools and skills to apply and you were able to
Speaker 1: take your attention off your cell phone and settle your
Speaker 1: body back down into the present moment, that would be
Speaker 1: a victory. And then your body would say, come on,
Speaker 1: you gotta feel a little frustration now. You got to
Speaker 1: be impatient, you got to be judgmental. Come on, that's
Speaker 1: what you always think, that's how you always feel, and you,
Speaker 1: like an animal, you settle the body back down into
Speaker 1: the present moment, and you tell it it's no longer
Speaker 1: the mind, that you're the mind. That's a victory. Then
Speaker 1: the body says, hey, dude, you're super busy. You got
Speaker 1: a lot lot of things to do. You got a
Speaker 1: lot of people to see, you got a lot of
Speaker 1: places that go, you got a lot of things to do,
Speaker 1: and you've been doing the same thing every day. Your
Speaker 1: body's going to want to get up and do something.
Speaker 1: You don't want to quit because your brain's telling you
Speaker 1: that you can't do this. If you had the awareness
Speaker 1: to settle the body back down into the present moment,
Speaker 1: you would be executing a will that's greater than the program,
Speaker 1: because most people lose their free will to those programs.
Speaker 1: And it's that tedium in the beginning that is an
Speaker 1: uncompromising will where you keep training the animal to stay,
Speaker 1: to take all of its attention off the environment, to
Speaker 1: get beyond all the cravings, the feelings, the habits of
Speaker 1: the body, the drives of the body, and catch yourself
Speaker 1: defaulting to that predictable future, bringing your body back into
Speaker 1: the present moment, siphoning energy back, your attention into the
Speaker 1: past based on those familiar emotions in the past. Discover
Speaker 1: that if you're willing to do that for just a
Speaker 1: few days, you could actually liberate an enormous amount of
Speaker 1: energy from your body. You go from particle to wave,
Speaker 1: from matter to energy, and you're literally transmuting those limited
Speaker 1: emotions into elevated emotions. And something really beautiful happens. If
Speaker 1: you're willing to fire the crucible and sit through that
Speaker 1: long enough, all of these emotions, that energy moves right
Speaker 1: up into the heart and the person starts falling in
Speaker 1: love with life. They start feeling this state of gratitude,
Speaker 1: this gratefulness to be alive, this inefftable word of relaxed
Speaker 1: and awake. And something really magical happens. When we've discovered
Speaker 1: this little simple thing, and that energy makes it through
Speaker 1: the heart, there's only one place it wants to go,
Speaker 1: and it goes straight to the brain. So the person
Speaker 1: starts relaxing into their heart when they feel this feeling,
Speaker 1: and the more they relax into the heart, the more
Speaker 1: their brain. All of a sudden starts becoming aroused, and
Speaker 1: they start going into these elevated gamma brainwave patterns. Now,
Speaker 1: gamma is not unconscious. Gamma is actually super conscious. It's
Speaker 1: actually super aware. You're outside the program now. So when
Speaker 1: that occurs and the brain goes into gamma brainwave patterns,
Speaker 1: what we discovered is it's not a little gamma. It's
Speaker 1: not a lot of gamma. It's not a whole lot
Speaker 1: of gamma. It's a super natural amount of gamma. And
Speaker 1: we start seeing these brain waves where we see FDA
Speaker 1: start carrying alpha, and alpha starts resonating with beta, and
Speaker 1: beta starts creating high beta, and high beta starts creating gamma.
Speaker 1: And you see these standing waves of brain coherence happening,
Speaker 1: and the person feels so amazing that they don't want
Speaker 1: the moment to end. And so we see when they
Speaker 1: put their attention on their heart, like filling a gas tank,
Speaker 1: we see on the gauge on the scan, this very
Speaker 1: low frequency start rising in the heart. The energy that
Speaker 1: the heart uses to function actually goes up because they're
Speaker 1: placing their attention there. And where they place their attention
Speaker 1: is where they place their energy. Then you see the
Speaker 1: powasympathetic nervous system come up with it. That's the nervous
Speaker 1: system of relaxation. And then we see it kind of
Speaker 1: drop and we see the sympathetic nervous system starting to
Speaker 1: go up. And now, sympathetic regulation is an arousal, right,
Speaker 1: but the arousal is in fear. The arousal isn't hatred
Speaker 1: or aggression. The arousal is in pain. That's the arousal
Speaker 1: created from survival. There's only one other arousal, and that's ecstasy.
Speaker 1: That's bliss, and the person all of a sudden feels
Speaker 1: connected to something greater. Now here's the beauty. We could
Speaker 1: see people do this in fifteen minutes. The most important
Speaker 1: takeaway around all of this is that feeling that they're
Speaker 1: feeling is not coming from anywhere outside of them. No
Speaker 1: person's doing that, no wardrobe change is doing that, no
Speaker 1: sports cardonal football game, nothing is doing it to them.
Speaker 1: It's actually coming from within. That is the moment they
Speaker 1: stop looking for it outside of them and the love
Speaker 1: affair begins. And so when we start feeling these elevated emotions,
Speaker 1: these more selfless emotions, it's not like you have to
Speaker 1: try to forgive it. Actually is the side effect of
Speaker 1: you changing your emotional state. You no longer want because
Speaker 1: you feel so whole, how could you want anything? So
Speaker 1: we started interviewing people when they have these moments, and
Speaker 1: they had such an incredible amount of love that they felt.
Speaker 1: We measure their tocin levels or love chemicals are very elevated.
Speaker 1: The amount of gamma in terms of coherence was two
Speaker 1: hundred three hundred, four hundred standard deviations outside of normal
Speaker 1: in coherent gamma. Now three standard deviations outside of normal
Speaker 1: in gamma is about two percent of the population two
Speaker 1: hundred three hundred for four and a lot of energy
Speaker 1: in the brain. So the brain all of a sudden
Speaker 1: is receiving an enormous amount of energy. So we've discovered
Speaker 1: relaxed in the heart and awaken the brain. And that
Speaker 1: process of transformation is your willingness to sit past that thought,
Speaker 1: pass that emotion, and keep training the animal and sooner
Speaker 1: or later you can recondition it to a new mind.
Speaker 2: And the system for this new mind in this journey
Speaker 2: that you're talking about is meditation, and this is coming
Speaker 2: through a meditative practice. Is that similar to the breath
Speaker 2: work meditation practice that you just did research on or
Speaker 2: is that dirty?
Speaker 1: Separate these Wow? Okay, yeah, yes, So our week long
Speaker 1: events or a full immersion experience, We've done the largest
Speaker 1: studies on meditation that have ever been done, just because
Speaker 1: we have a community of eighteen hundred people that come
Speaker 1: to an event that are going to be getting up
Speaker 1: at the same time doing the same thing, pretty much
Speaker 1: eating making the same food choices in pretty much a
Speaker 1: big laboratory, right, And so our discoveries in working with
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred people in measuring brain waves, their brain function
Speaker 1: before and after the event, measuring their gene expression before
Speaker 1: and after the event. We're measuring two and eighty two
Speaker 1: metabolites in their blood. We're measuring DNA expression, We're measuring urine,
Speaker 1: we're measuring saliva, we're measuring the energy of the room,
Speaker 1: We're measuring everything. And meditation in a sense that it's
Speaker 1: not in the traditional way. What we do is we
Speaker 1: look at what really works, you know, we're actually looking
Speaker 1: to say, well, that's something that we can actually see
Speaker 1: it change in. So we teach meditation three ways to
Speaker 1: become familiar with your own self and to become familiar
Speaker 1: with your new self. That's what the word meditation means familiarization,
Speaker 1: to become familiar with so we use that model for change.
Speaker 1: So slow your brain weighs down and get beyond your
Speaker 1: analytical mind is meditation, and you teach your body how
Speaker 1: to do that. And we've discovered a formula that simply
Speaker 1: makes it very easy for people to do it. You
Speaker 1: practice it, you'll get good at it, just like anything
Speaker 1: else you practice. So to get beyond the analytical mind,
Speaker 1: there's another way to reprogram ourselves. And then meditation is
Speaker 1: really about getting beyond your body, or disconnecting from your body,
Speaker 1: disconnecting from your environment, and forgetting about time. And that
Speaker 1: is that eye of the needle where we begin to
Speaker 1: make the most significant changes. So we're data driven, you know,
Speaker 1: we're really looking to see what it is. And when
Speaker 1: we see brains respond in the same way, it helps
Speaker 1: me enormously to teach the material better. And so the
Speaker 1: more people understand what they're doing, and the more they
Speaker 1: understand why they're doing it, the more naturally the how
Speaker 1: becomes easier, and nothing is left to conjecture. If nothing
Speaker 1: is left to superstition or dogma or even in spiritual
Speaker 1: you know, traditional words, New science says the contemporary language
Speaker 1: would demystify that process. And you give people numerous times
Speaker 1: to overcome themselves and numerous times to connect. Sooner or
Speaker 1: later you'll start watching transformation right before your eyes. And
Speaker 1: so one of the cool things that we've discovered is
Speaker 1: that we have so much compelling data to suggest that
Speaker 1: you're greater than you think, more powerful than you no,
Speaker 1: more unlimited than you could ever dream. We have compelling
Speaker 1: data to suggest that your nervous system is the greatest
Speaker 1: pharmacist in the world, that it makes drugs that work
Speaker 1: better than any drug in a drug store. A drug
Speaker 1: study is about eighteen to twenty five percent cause and
Speaker 1: effect causality. Our data is between seventy five in eighty
Speaker 1: five percent cause and effect. This is a person creating
Speaker 1: their own pharmacy of anti inflammatories, their own pharmacy of
Speaker 1: anti carcinogenic chemicals, their own pharmacy of pain relievers, who
Speaker 1: are seeing this over and over again. So we have
Speaker 1: this incredible data that says that this is no longer pseudoscience,
Speaker 1: This is this is really science. The side effect of
Speaker 1: a person's transformation is has changed my belief in what's possible.
Speaker 1: I have seen people stand on the stage with stage
Speaker 1: four cancers that were in every single organ in their
Speaker 1: body that metastasized, and they have no sign of cancer
Speaker 1: in their body. And we have data that suggests that
Speaker 1: you put the blood of an advanced meditator and a
Speaker 1: uterine cancer cell a pancreatic cancer cell, seventy percent of
Speaker 1: the mitochondrial function in the cancer cells diminished in the
Speaker 1: mitochondria is the energy packets of the cell. It's taking energy.
Speaker 1: The cancer cell works perfect with what we're seeing with
Speaker 1: the testimonials that people are telling around the world. We've
Speaker 1: seen blind people see We've seen deaf people here. We've
Speaker 1: seen people with spinal cord injuries walk again. We've seen
Speaker 1: als change, We've seen all kinds of unbelievable health conditions
Speaker 1: change by a person simply changing the way they think,
Speaker 1: the way they act, and the way they feel.
Speaker 2: How long have you seen certain things lost? Like how
Speaker 2: much does the practice have to continue daily to sustain impact?
Speaker 2: Because I feel that you know, this isn't as you know,
Speaker 2: isn't a one off thing, and that isn't what you're encouraging.
Speaker 2: Like this is the experience of when someone's coming to
Speaker 2: a retreat or an event they're having this incredible experience,
Speaker 2: But then do you measure how people continue to practice?
Speaker 1: That's important. Yeah, it's super important for us, and of
Speaker 1: course we have mounds of data. But let's see if
Speaker 1: I can say this as as clear as I possibly can.
Speaker 1: When a person has that arousal where they're feeling that
Speaker 1: elevated emotion and their eyes are closed, they're in a
Speaker 1: room with eighteen hundred people, there's music playing in the background.
Speaker 1: They're not eating, they're not smelling, they're not tasting, they're
Speaker 1: moving about and feeling on some level, they're having an
Speaker 1: inner experience. Right. The body is so objective that it's
Speaker 1: literally believing it's living in a new environment, and so
Speaker 1: that elevated emotion somehow tends to drag the body right
Speaker 1: out of the past into the present moment. So many
Speaker 1: people with everything from exhama to muscular dystrophe, when they
Speaker 1: have those events, there's a biological change that takes place
Speaker 1: in their body where they feel completely differently. Now, some
Speaker 1: people heal all the way. Some people are out of
Speaker 1: their wheelchair and they're walking again, but they're limping, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it's over. It just means they made
Speaker 1: contact where they hit gold, and so there's varying degrees
Speaker 1: that we see. We've seen people for seven years work
Speaker 1: on a terminal health condition to them seven years to
Speaker 1: heal that health condition. Some people it takes two years,
Speaker 1: three years. Some people they do it in three months.
Speaker 1: There's no predictable menu that we can say it's this way. Now,
Speaker 1: when people have those more profoundly aroused states, it seems
Speaker 1: like their change is much more immediate and much more permanent.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, we see people's response pretty dramatic. Now,
Speaker 1: it's also important to say that we have seen people
Speaker 1: heal from terminal cancers stop feeling those elevated emotions and
Speaker 1: return to responding to the circumstances and conditions in their life,
Speaker 1: and return back to the same personality, the same personality,
Speaker 1: as the same personal reality and their bodies believing it's
Speaker 1: living in that same environment and they're feeling the same way,
Speaker 1: and they're in the habit of acting the same way
Speaker 1: and thinking the same way, and lo and behold, the
Speaker 1: condition returns. We've seen people heal themselves of Parkinson's disease
Speaker 1: more than once, have one response to some very serious
Speaker 1: event in their life that produced a very strong emotion,
Speaker 1: and in one hour their condition returned because they literally
Speaker 1: went back to the world it self. And we've seen
Speaker 1: that person turn around and reverse the condition again again.
Speaker 1: People do the best with what they think is available.
Speaker 1: The person standing on the stage, who we've had numerous
Speaker 1: physicians and researchers stand on the stage, they're the four
Speaker 1: minute mile. They're telling the community. I'm the example of truth.
Speaker 1: This is no longer philosophy, this is no longer theory.
Speaker 1: Here's my scans. We had someone with bilateral breast cancer
Speaker 1: just recently. No evidence of cancer in our breasts or
Speaker 1: any lymph nodes, no longer in our liver. I'm looking
Speaker 1: out at the audience and everybody's leaning in. There's the
Speaker 1: formut a mile, and that person's telling the truth, and
Speaker 1: they're telling a story, and it's not pretty. It's not
Speaker 1: always rosy. They went through a lot of dark nights,
Speaker 1: they went through a lot of their condition getting worse,
Speaker 1: but every day they had to show up for themselves.
Speaker 1: If they stopped showing up and doing the work, they
Speaker 1: would really not believe it was possible. But if they
Speaker 1: showed up and did the work, it means that they
Speaker 1: believe it's possible, And I think when you believe in possibility,
Speaker 1: you got to believe in yourself, and you believe in yourself,
Speaker 1: you gotta believe in possibilities. So it used to be
Speaker 1: a few examples of that. Now we have so many
Speaker 1: great testimonials, so many great stories that now people it's
Speaker 1: becoming infectious, just like a virus or any bacteria becomes infectious.
Speaker 1: Now health and wellness becomes as infectious as disease. A
Speaker 1: community of people starting to break through. When you start
Speaker 1: seeing these changes where people stand on the stage, invariably
Speaker 1: you're going to see a very strong shift in consciousness.
Speaker 1: And consciousness is awareness, and if you're unaware that you
Speaker 1: could actually heal yourself, you'll make the same choice once
Speaker 1: you see it. I think it starts creating a brushfire,
Speaker 1: and that's really the exciting part. So we've seen so
Speaker 1: many great testimonials that are undeniably great stories of transformation,
Speaker 1: and many many of those people still no longer have
Speaker 1: their exsimus, still no longer have their Parkins', still no
Speaker 1: longer have their cancer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Since the last time we spoke, I know your
Speaker 2: team of research is when I did some work I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you some questions about this. You did
Speaker 2: some research on the impact of one minute breath work.
Speaker 2: How does this impact our heart rate variability? And how
Speaker 2: does HIV impact our anxiety.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about heart rate variability because it's important. Thing.
Speaker 1: So your brain is trying to control and predict everything
Speaker 1: that's taking place in your life, because stress is actually
Speaker 1: created when you can predict something, you can't control something,
Speaker 1: or you have the perception that something's going to get worse. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you switch on that primitive nervous system, the fight
Speaker 1: or flight nervous system, and as you shift your attention
Speaker 1: from one person to another person, to another thing, to
Speaker 1: another place, to another problem, every one of those different
Speaker 1: elements has a neurological network in your brain. So the
Speaker 1: arousal of the hormones to say, pay attention, there's danger.
Speaker 1: As you start shifting your attention to each one of
Speaker 1: these elements that have neurological networks in your brain, your
Speaker 1: brain starts firing very incoherently. And in fact, you could
Speaker 1: actually by thinking about your problems, turn on the stress
Speaker 1: response just by thought alone, and that's what most people do.
Speaker 1: So now there you are, You're sitting in traffic the
Speaker 1: heart is pumping because it's trying to get blood to
Speaker 1: the extremities, because a primitive system switching on saying that
Speaker 1: there's a predator, there's danger, and the heart is beating
Speaker 1: against closed arteries, and the heart starts beating out of rhythm.
Speaker 1: It starts beating out of order, and it starts beating
Speaker 1: very incoherently. So when you have incoherence in the brain
Speaker 1: and you have incoherence in the heart, when waves are incoherent,
Speaker 1: when they intersect with each other, they cancel each other out.
Speaker 1: And when they cancel each other out, that's less energy
Speaker 1: in the brain. There's less energy in the brain. You're
Speaker 1: going to default to some of those reflexive systems. If
Speaker 1: energy is diminished in the heart. You're not going to trust,
Speaker 1: You're not going to be vulnerable, you're not going to
Speaker 1: want to commune, you're not going to want to connect,
Speaker 1: you're not going to want to feel grateful. It's not
Speaker 1: a time to feel any of those things. It's time
Speaker 1: to run, fight, and hide. Okay, So most people say, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I had a stressful day. I was stressed out the
Speaker 1: entire day, and at the end of the day they
Speaker 1: turn on the TV and they relax. The important thing
Speaker 1: to realize is that if you're relying on something outside
Speaker 1: of you to change that emotional state, you'll become dependent
Speaker 1: on it. So is it possible then to begin to
Speaker 1: create more coherence in the brain. And the answer is yes,
Speaker 1: because when you're under the gun of those chemicals of survival,
Speaker 1: you're narrowing your focus on the cost. You hear something
Speaker 1: moving in the bushes, you freeze and you narrow your focus.
Speaker 1: And it's that narrowing focus that tends to be obsessive.
Speaker 1: When we're in stress. We overthink things, we overanalyze that
Speaker 1: actually we've discovered makes the brain worse and it actually
Speaker 1: makes the heart regulate more out of order. So then
Speaker 1: we said, Okay, if the brain is narrowing its focus
Speaker 1: and it's becoming over attentive, what if we teach it
Speaker 1: how to do something else. What if we teach it
Speaker 1: how to broaden its focus and instead of focusing on
Speaker 1: something material or something known, just open up and focus
Speaker 1: on nothing. And the act of broadening the focus actually
Speaker 1: cause a person to stop thinking and doing and start
Speaker 1: sensing and feeling is actually what starts to slow their
Speaker 1: brain waves down. The redundancy of shifting your attention from
Speaker 1: one person to another person, to another problem, to another
Speaker 1: thing causes the brain to fire like a lightning storm
Speaker 1: and the clouds very incoherently. So as you start to
Speaker 1: open your awareness, and since nothing seen this thousands of times,
Speaker 1: those different networks that are firing out of order start
Speaker 1: to synchronize, and what sinks in the brain links in
Speaker 1: the brain, and the brain becomes more orderly. It starts
Speaker 1: to become more coherent. If you could learn how to
Speaker 1: rest your attention in your heart, and where you place
Speaker 1: your attention is where you place your energy. Regulate your breath,
Speaker 1: start slowing your breathing down. Even if you did it
Speaker 1: for one minute, you could actually begin to change your
Speaker 1: brain waves and you could actually cause your heart to
Speaker 1: start functioning more regulation and more order. If you said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work with my body and I'm gonna start breathing,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna start feeling emotions that I do want
Speaker 1: to feel. Yes, it may take you a few minutes
Speaker 1: to get there, but if you keep practicing it over
Speaker 1: and over again, the heart starts producing a very profound signal.
Speaker 1: It starts to produce an external magnetic field. It's measurable.
Speaker 1: So now you have a coherent brain, which means you
Speaker 1: can get very intentional, and you have a coherent heart,
Speaker 1: which means you can feel the emotions of your future
Speaker 1: before it happens. Somehow. You have this broadcasting of this
Speaker 1: Wi Fi signal, And the brain tends to be electrical
Speaker 1: in nature, so it sends out an electrical charge into
Speaker 1: the field. The heart is the magnetic charge. It's what
Speaker 1: draws things to us. It's the magnetic field. And now
Speaker 1: you actually by changing the way you think and the
Speaker 1: way you feel, you're changing the signal in the field.
Speaker 1: Then if you're able to maintain that state for an
Speaker 1: extended period of time, I say, something magical is going
Speaker 1: to happen in your life, something unusual, someone known experience
Speaker 1: is going to occur. If you keep thinking the same
Speaker 1: way and feeling the same way, your life should stay
Speaker 1: the same. So we do one minute practices, we do
Speaker 1: five minute practices, we do thirty minute practices. We want
Speaker 1: to get so good at doing it with our eyes
Speaker 1: closed that we can do it with our eyes open.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, when I hear that, like I've had personal
Speaker 2: genuine experience of that where I've done that when I've
Speaker 2: had when I'm having a moment where I'm feeling anxious,
Speaker 2: or I'm feeling stressed, or you know, something unpredictable has happened,
Speaker 2: and I feel that change in my heart rate, and
Speaker 2: I notice my breathing change. I notice had become more shallow,
Speaker 2: I notice had become more random. I know that when
Speaker 2: I'm practicing breath work, I'm able to come back to stillness.
Speaker 2: I'm able to come back to that sense of balance,
Speaker 2: and then I'm able to actually approach the issue at
Speaker 2: hand with more clarity, with more connectedness and a feeling
Speaker 2: of confidence. But when someone else who may not have
Speaker 2: had that experience yet or may not be trained in that,
Speaker 2: they're just thinking, well, how do I solve the problem? Right?
Speaker 2: They're listening to me, and you're going, well, but I
Speaker 2: can't because I just I need to solve this problem,
Speaker 2: like you're saying, like I'm going to be thirty minutes
Speaker 2: late for a job interview, or i just had an
Speaker 2: argument with my partner this morning, and I've got a
Speaker 2: big presentation this morning as well at work. Now I'm
Speaker 2: stressed about it because I'm thinking about that, Or my
Speaker 2: kid just got yeah, I had to rush into the
Speaker 2: hospital and now I'm late. Like I guess, when you're
Speaker 2: looking at it from a very human point of view,
Speaker 2: it's really hard to understand the value in this. What
Speaker 2: do you say to anyone who's thinking and feeling that way.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's I think it's a reasonable conversation.
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes we have to be super aroused, and
Speaker 1: sometimes we really have to pay attention, and sometimes there
Speaker 1: are threats and dangers where that primitive nervous system actually
Speaker 1: works in our favor, and that's the emergency system. But
Speaker 1: you got to also realize that you only have a
Speaker 1: certain amount of energy, and if you're living in emergency
Speaker 1: mode for an extended period of time, there's no energy
Speaker 1: for growth repair, there's no energy for long term building projects.
Speaker 1: And so when it's needed and you have to outrun
Speaker 1: the predator, you go. You don't sit and try to
Speaker 1: make friends with the predator. We're not that good. You run, right.
Speaker 1: The problem is if you keep that alarm system switched
Speaker 1: on all the time, it gets very addictive. It gets
Speaker 1: very addictive, right, And so I have looked at people's
Speaker 1: brain scans and watch their brain get worse in the
Speaker 1: early days and tap them on the head and say,
Speaker 1: what were you doing in there? One hundred percent of
Speaker 1: the time they were analyzing the problems in their life
Speaker 1: within that disturbing emotion. And if an emotion is a
Speaker 1: record of the past and they can't think greater than
Speaker 1: how they feel they're thinking in the past, there's no
Speaker 1: solution there across the river. Get beyond the emotion and
Speaker 1: you'll see possibility because you're no longer in the box
Speaker 1: of that emotional state. Now, that's so much easier said
Speaker 1: than done, because you're going against thousands of years of
Speaker 1: programming of living in survival. I mean, two hundred years ago,
Speaker 1: it wasn't easy to being human. I mean, we're in
Speaker 1: survival all the time and famine, you know, every disease,
Speaker 1: I mean it it was hard to be human. And
Speaker 1: so we have to lay down the very thing we
Speaker 1: used our whole life to get what we want for
Speaker 1: something greater to occur. And it goes against thousands of
Speaker 1: years of programming. It's not something that you get good
Speaker 1: at doing once you got to keep practicing. So so
Speaker 1: you really have two ways to look at it. If
Speaker 1: you're if you're living in stress and you're living in survival,
Speaker 1: and that system is switched on, then everything will be
Speaker 1: a threat. Everything will be a danger, everything will be
Speaker 1: a reason to rush, to be impatient, to be frustrated,
Speaker 1: to be judgmental, because that's the consciousness, that's the emotion
Speaker 1: we're living by. So now you have a problem with
Speaker 1: a coworker, you have a problem with your partner, whatever
Speaker 1: it is that you used as an example, and you
Speaker 1: have to give a presentation. Now you really have one
Speaker 1: of two. Either be victimized by those conditions in your
Speaker 1: life and you stay in that emotional state. And I'll
Speaker 1: say to you, Jay, worry that way while I'm this
Speaker 1: way because of this person, the circumstances that person, or
Speaker 1: circumstances controlling the way I feel and the way I think.
Speaker 1: Anything that controls the way I feel and the way
Speaker 1: I think I'm victim to, right, Okay, Or I actually
Speaker 1: can be a creator now, Okay. So when it's the
Speaker 1: hardest that matters the most. Okay. So there's going to
Speaker 1: be a story, a valid story that's going to go
Speaker 1: along with those emotions that you're going to have to
Speaker 1: give up that you can address at another time from
Speaker 1: a different state. If you're altered in that state, and
Speaker 1: you say something, you do something, you write, the email,
Speaker 1: you send the text, You'll always regret it. You'll always
Speaker 1: say I should have never said that, I should have
Speaker 1: never done that. We've got to learn that we're in
Speaker 1: an altered state at that time. So it's only one
Speaker 1: of two choices. You either stay there the whole day
Speaker 1: and tell everybody that story, or you say, okay, let
Speaker 1: me take a moment. Remember that this is the experiment
Speaker 1: call life. Okay, let me practice getting relaxed in my hearty,
Speaker 1: slow the animal down, let me practice. I'll take a
Speaker 1: few minutes now, let me breathe, me get my state back,
Speaker 1: let me change everything. Okay, let me remember who I am,
Speaker 1: who I want to be when I open my eyes,
Speaker 1: and let me practice that again. Now, even if you
Speaker 1: had to do that ten times in one day, I
Speaker 1: would say it was a day worth living. I would
Speaker 1: say it was a day worth living. And when we
Speaker 1: do walking meditations in our retreats, we're doing walking meditations,
Speaker 1: so you can practice doing it with your eyes open,
Speaker 1: like if you're gonna be relaxed in your heart and
Speaker 1: awaken your brain, and you can do it with your
Speaker 1: eyes close. Okay, Let's take it out for a test drive.
Speaker 1: Let me open my eyes, let me pay a little
Speaker 1: bit more attention to my inner world. Let me practice
Speaker 1: feeling this feeling. Let me practice feeling this way, and
Speaker 1: let me brain do what it does. Let me get
Speaker 1: to finally change my physiology. Let me change my state.
Speaker 1: Let me walk as the healed personally, walk as the
Speaker 1: abundant person. Let me walk as if my prayers are
Speaker 1: answering me walk in the state. If I keep practicing
Speaker 1: that over and over, it's going to become a habit. Right,
Speaker 1: So we hit it as many ways as we can.
Speaker 1: We have at least seven or eight different breaths that
Speaker 1: we do because we see how they all work in
Speaker 1: the brain. We have all kinds of meditations. We have
Speaker 1: sitting meditations, we have standing and walking meditations. You're laying
Speaker 1: down meditations, but we want you to be able to
Speaker 1: do it with your eyes open, with your eyes go, standing, walking,
Speaker 1: anyway you can so that you don't default and return
Speaker 1: back to that person. Now, if you do default, you
Speaker 1: didn't fail. That's a program. You just went unconscious. And
Speaker 1: how many times do we have to forget until we
Speaker 1: stop forgetting and start remembering that's the moment of change.
Speaker 1: No one cares how many times you fell off the
Speaker 1: bicycle if you ride the bicycle. Now you ride the bike.
Speaker 1: So it's the constant process every single day. And I
Speaker 1: think that sometimes we look for evidence in our life
Speaker 1: and it hasn't happened. And I think it's so important
Speaker 1: that we still show up because that's where you're changing
Speaker 1: the most. And when you get to that point where
Speaker 1: you could care less if it happens or not because
Speaker 1: you feel so happy, so grateful for who you are,
Speaker 1: get ready because your life is going to begin to
Speaker 1: change in magical ways. I'm so proud of our community,
Speaker 1: not because they do the work every day, not because
Speaker 1: they're trying to be good or please anybody. They do
Speaker 1: because they don't want the magic to really end. I
Speaker 1: know the experiment is too good. Is they don't, They're
Speaker 1: going to continue to be a creator in their life.
Speaker 1: So then when they change the way they feel and
Speaker 1: the way they think and they start seeing evidence in
Speaker 1: their life, they're going to remember what they did inside
Speaker 1: of them to produce that outcome, and they're going to
Speaker 1: believe their creator of their life, unless of the victim
Speaker 1: of their life and that's empowerment, and you can't take
Speaker 1: that away from anybody. You can't tell me now you're
Speaker 1: too sick to do that. You can't tell me you're
Speaker 1: too old to do that. You can't tell me you
Speaker 1: had a horrible past, you're too out of shape. You
Speaker 1: can't even tell me that you never meditated before. Because
Speaker 1: people that come they know nothing, They get dragged by
Speaker 1: somebody and they have the most profound experience because they're
Speaker 1: not expecting anything. And we have data suggests that when
Speaker 1: you don't expect anything, you're going to have a profound moment.
Speaker 1: So everybody can do it. There's nobody that's so special
Speaker 1: to be excluded from this process. And we have had
Speaker 1: people that have had brutal pasts with abuse, with trauma.
Speaker 1: We've seen the Navy seals and prisoners with horrible, horrible
Speaker 1: memories literally transformed, literally transform in seven days. And I
Speaker 1: could say right now that you make the time every
Speaker 1: single day to decide who you're going to present to
Speaker 1: the world, and you get up as that person. You're
Speaker 1: going to fall a lot of times, but sooner or later,
Speaker 1: once you start to change, it's pretty hard to go back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we so easily forget that anything that
Speaker 2: we've achieved today, any place we've got to, was a
Speaker 2: commitment to refining the process. It was a disciplined effort
Speaker 2: to make a tiny improvement on something else. When you
Speaker 2: give the cycle example, the bike example, the idea that
Speaker 2: you got back up and you maybe changed one thing.
Speaker 2: You need to shift your balance differently. You knew to
Speaker 2: pedal at a different pace. Like you tried these different things,
Speaker 2: and it's what you're saying that it's an experiment. If
Speaker 2: we keep trying the same thing, we get the same result.
Speaker 2: But the point that I love that you brought up
Speaker 2: to that answer was the idea that sometimes you do
Speaker 2: need to be an emergency, but don't make emergency a
Speaker 2: habit exactly. And I think that's where most of us
Speaker 2: veer off on the wrong path. I was asked recently,
Speaker 2: anyone who knows me today knows that I'm a hard working, productive,
Speaker 2: high performance type of individual. I live a very scheduled
Speaker 2: life and a disciplined life. And the biggest question I
Speaker 2: get around the holidays is Jay, are you able to
Speaker 2: switch off? And I always go back and give the
Speaker 2: credit to my monk training and say I switch off
Speaker 2: immediately as soon as I'm on the flight home. I
Speaker 2: remember before Christmas, I was getting on a flight home
Speaker 2: back to London, and I was off the moment I
Speaker 2: stepped onto the flight, and it was because it's not
Speaker 2: because I'm special or because I'm unique or I have superpowers.
Speaker 2: It's because I've simply done what you said where it's
Speaker 2: I've trained myself to always be present. And so if
Speaker 2: I'm really present in my work like I am with
Speaker 2: you now, then when I'm on the plane, I'm just
Speaker 2: present and I know that it's time to switch off.
Speaker 2: And so I think the idea that our presence bleeds
Speaker 2: and our lack of presence bleeds. And it's not that
Speaker 2: you can selectively be in emergency here and not in
Speaker 2: emergency here. The state you're feeding is going to spread
Speaker 2: across your whole life. Like I know a lot of
Speaker 2: people who are high performance, and I've had to be
Speaker 2: mindful of this as well. It's like their high performance
Speaker 2: at work, but then they take that high performance and
Speaker 2: they give it to their family, and now their family
Speaker 2: is getting a high performance dad, and they don't want that.
Speaker 2: They just want their dad or they want their mom.
Speaker 2: And so how do we develop that. I guess that's
Speaker 2: a highly trained ability. Is what you're saying is we
Speaker 2: get the ability then to say, Okay, I know when
Speaker 2: to use this and when not to. That's a more
Speaker 2: heightened stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, there's nothing wrong with the hormones
Speaker 1: of stress. I mean that's the only way we could
Speaker 1: actually survive. We're part human, part animal, part divine. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have two things at work here. I think the
Speaker 1: biggest challenge for a lot of people. In seventy percent
Speaker 1: of the time, people are living in that state of survival,
Speaker 1: living in that state of stress. The more you understand
Speaker 1: what that actually does to you, the more you can
Speaker 1: make better choices on how long you actually do want
Speaker 1: to stay there. Here's an example. Many people who are
Speaker 1: changing a health condition in our work, they start to
Speaker 1: do the work. They start noticing, I'm sleeping better, I
Speaker 1: have less pain, I got my appetite back, I feel
Speaker 1: like I have more energy. They start noticing these subtle
Speaker 1: subjective changes that go to their doctor and their scans
Speaker 1: still show that they have their health conditions. So they're
Speaker 1: noticing a change, but they're not healed all the way. Now,
Speaker 1: they don't say it didn't work. They say, what is
Speaker 1: it about me that I still have to change in
Speaker 1: order to heal? What thought? What behavior? What emotions? So
Speaker 1: they're work in progress, right. Many of those people discover
Speaker 1: that they have one really good hour of meditation where
Speaker 1: they feel connected, they feel like their heart is opening up,
Speaker 1: they feel like their brain is coherent, they feel really great.
Speaker 1: They don't want the moment to end. And then they
Speaker 1: spend fifteen or sixteen hours of their day back in
Speaker 1: a program, rushing around, back in their emotional states, responding
Speaker 1: and reacting, and they realize that how could one hour
Speaker 1: of an elevated state weigh against fifteen or sixteen hours
Speaker 1: of my response to everyone and everything in my life
Speaker 1: emotionally is derived from those familiar emotions of fear or
Speaker 1: anger or hatred or pain or suffering whatever. Okay, So
Speaker 1: now this is where the practicum actually goes to the
Speaker 1: next level because they're no longer just sit down and
Speaker 1: rehearsing who they want to be. They're actually rehearsing for
Speaker 1: their life. They're saying, Okay, when I see that person,
Speaker 1: when I'm in that circumstance, I can't go unconscious and
Speaker 1: feel this emotion, and I can't go unconscious and say,
Speaker 1: these things are act this way, how am I going
Speaker 1: to act? What would love do? What would greatness look like?
Speaker 1: They don't know. They read about it, They get more
Speaker 1: information and they're building this model, and now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, their response to people, to circumstances, the problems
Speaker 1: in their life are changing. Now that's because they're changing.
Speaker 1: Then they notice that their health condition starts to improve
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Now now they don't say, how
Speaker 1: come my Alzheimer's or my Barkinson's or my als has healed.
Speaker 1: They're saying, how much more can I open my heart
Speaker 1: in my day and feel this with my eyes open
Speaker 1: all day long? If I understand that if I live
Speaker 1: by these emotions, I'm signaling jeans ahead of the environment. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to stay in this state because it's this
Speaker 1: emotional state that is actually going to heal me. So
Speaker 1: I remember this feeling, I remember this feeling. I remember
Speaker 1: this feeling. And now they're no longer trying to remember
Speaker 1: the feeling just for any other reason, but because I
Speaker 1: want to remember the feeling when with their eyes open.
Speaker 1: Now it's their understanding that the more that they change,
Speaker 1: the more that their health changes, and you can have
Speaker 1: the best diet, and you could do the best exercise,
Speaker 1: and you could be really rigid in the food choices
Speaker 1: and vitamins and minerals and keep your body chemically balanced
Speaker 1: and physically balanced. But if you're not emotionally balanced, and
Speaker 1: you're constantly in that fight or flight system, stress is
Speaker 1: when your body's knocked out of homeostasis. The stress is
Speaker 1: when your brain and body are knocked out of balance.
Speaker 1: So you could have all those things working for you,
Speaker 1: but if you are living in fear, or you're controlling,
Speaker 1: and you're rigid, and you're perfectionist and your heart on yourself,
Speaker 1: it's going to make sense that that is going to
Speaker 1: have to change in order for you to change, right,
Speaker 1: And so people start getting they start getting it. That's
Speaker 1: the only way I'm going to change. If I don't change,
Speaker 1: it's not going to change.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of my favorite things as a practical exercise
Speaker 2: I ever did was I literally had scripts, and I
Speaker 2: mean handwritten, like I wrote scripts for how I wanted
Speaker 2: to feel when I experienced ego envy, and so for
Speaker 2: every emotional challenge, I had something that I thought was
Speaker 2: an unhealthy thought. I literally had like pages and pages
Speaker 2: and pages of scripts that were built up from research,
Speaker 2: that were built up from spiritual literature, that were built
Speaker 2: up from science, whatever it may be. Of what did
Speaker 2: I want to be able to say to myself when
Speaker 2: this thought or that thought came up? And it sounds
Speaker 2: so basic, but it really does rewire your thoughts when
Speaker 2: now all I can think of is that script.
Speaker 1: Sure, and I need to update that script regularly. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I mean, I mean I'm constantly. Yah,
Speaker 1: it's constantly. Yeah, it's not one, I'm constantly. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean ninety five percent of who we are by
Speaker 1: the time middle age is a set of unconscious thoughts, behaviors,
Speaker 1: and emotions. I mean those are beliefs and perceptions that
Speaker 1: we have about ourselves in our lives. So I mean
Speaker 1: this is a never ending process of self discovery. I
Speaker 1: mean there's always challenges that you'll have in your life
Speaker 1: that are going to initiate you into becoming conscious of
Speaker 1: what you're unconscious to. And you've got to meet those
Speaker 1: challenges from a greater level of consciousness than the consciousness
Speaker 1: that's created. And you can't. If you don't, your response
Speaker 1: and the way you feel and the way you think
Speaker 1: being the same. And if you believe that how you
Speaker 1: think and how you feel creates your life. If you
Speaker 1: don't change the way you think and the way you feel,
Speaker 1: your life's going to stay the same because you're the same.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way it works. So fundamentally, it's
Speaker 1: so important for people to understand that it is actually
Speaker 1: possible to change. It really is possible.
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah. I love that you keep repeating that,
Speaker 2: because it's I think that's the hardest part where you've
Speaker 2: just again the broken record is I can't change, nothing
Speaker 2: will change, and not realizing that it's just a set
Speaker 2: of habits, it's just a set of routines that you've
Speaker 2: adopted as your reality.
Speaker 1: And you're going to be uncomfortable and get used to it.
Speaker 1: And so you could either stay uncomfortable or you could
Speaker 1: actually say, how do I want to feel? Let me
Speaker 1: instead of memorizing this emotion. Let me memorize this emotion,
Speaker 1: Let me open my heart when it goes against everything
Speaker 1: that I've been taught in programmed to do, I mean,
Speaker 1: and that's really when it really begins to matter the most.
Speaker 1: So it's really an exciting time and I'm so happy
Speaker 1: to see that people are wrapping their minds around all
Speaker 1: of this and doing it, you know, doing it for themselves.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, Have you found a difference, and I want
Speaker 2: to get a bit more technically, have you found a
Speaker 2: difference between meditation with breathwork and without breath work, because
Speaker 2: I know you do both, and what do you find
Speaker 2: is the usefulness and benefits of either.
Speaker 1: So we do so many different types of breath breath
Speaker 1: for so many different types of reasons. The breath that
Speaker 1: we were talking about with inspire pulling the mind out
Speaker 1: of the body. We do that breath to take that
Speaker 1: creative life force that sits at the base of this
Speaker 1: s line, that that energy that can create another life form,
Speaker 1: the energy we use to digest the meal, the energy
Speaker 1: that we use to run from a predator. We're taking
Speaker 1: all that energy that's stored in the body emotionally and
Speaker 1: we're pulling that energy back up into the brain. If
Speaker 1: you practice this breath repeatedly, there will be a release
Speaker 1: of energy into the brain. We have the data to
Speaker 1: show that you're going to have a lot more energy
Speaker 1: in your brain, You're going to be way more coherent
Speaker 1: in your brain, and you're going to be more conscious right,
Speaker 1: And so why is that important? Why Because when you
Speaker 1: regulate your brain waves, we don't want you to fall asleep.
Speaker 1: We want you to actually be really relaxed and awake
Speaker 1: at the same time. So we do this one breath
Speaker 1: called pulling the mind out of the body. That's the
Speaker 1: Inspire series, where we're taking all that creative energy and
Speaker 1: we're with the breath pulling that energy right up to
Speaker 1: a specific area of the brain. When you do that properly,
Speaker 1: your brain will go into an altered state. That's the
Speaker 1: reason why we do it. Then we do all kinds
Speaker 1: of other breathing, like breathing to change the heart rhythm.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when we're doing a laying down breath, when we're
Speaker 1: practicing getting into that mystical state, just when the audience
Speaker 1: is just starting to move into a slower brainwave state,
Speaker 1: we'll do a very forced inhalation, exhalation, inhalation, over and
Speaker 1: over again, like a hiker's breath, only so that the
Speaker 1: person feels euphoric and so euphoric that they don't want
Speaker 1: to fall asleep, and they'll move into a slower brainwave
Speaker 1: pattern and the door between the conscious mind and the
Speaker 1: subconscious mind opens, and many times there's a mystical experience
Speaker 1: waiting for that person that's transcendental. So we do all
Speaker 1: kinds of different breathing techniques because we have different intentions
Speaker 1: behind each one of them.
Speaker 2: If people want to dive into those, where should they go?
Speaker 2: If they want to kind of grab some of those
Speaker 2: techniques or get access, are they only at the events.
Speaker 1: There's an online course that we offer call the Progressive Workshop.
Speaker 1: In the Progressive Workshop, we teach a few of those
Speaker 1: breaths and if you come to a week long event,
Speaker 1: you'll have an opportunity to do all of them. And
Speaker 1: we started six in the morning. We finish it. I
Speaker 1: don't know cancum the last one we did. I think
Speaker 1: we finished at eight or eight thirty every night. It
Speaker 1: was just a great group of people and we go
Speaker 1: seven days and some mornings a little earlier. But you
Speaker 1: got a lot of practice, you got a lot of tools,
Speaker 1: so by the time you leave, you you can use
Speaker 1: them in your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, for anyone who can't obviously get
Speaker 2: to the live events, then the online course will be helpful,
Speaker 2: but you can go along to.
Speaker 1: It, and I think I think there's some good descriptions
Speaker 1: also in Becoming Supernatural, my last book, where we break
Speaker 1: it all down, and then there's some tutorials that we
Speaker 1: have on our website to help you with some of
Speaker 1: the breathing here.
Speaker 2: I love that, Joe. Is there anything I haven't asked
Speaker 2: you about today? Or anything that's on your mind and
Speaker 2: heart that you really want to share with everyone, or
Speaker 2: something you've been working on, or anything you feel compelled
Speaker 2: to share.
Speaker 1: Gosh, we covered a lot. We've covered a lot. We're
Speaker 1: doing some really cool research with random event generators, and
Speaker 1: random event generators are sophisticated. A coin tosses. You know,
Speaker 1: if you the more you toss a coin, the more
Speaker 1: you're going to get fifty to fifty heads, heads or tails. Right,
Speaker 1: So this machine generates program machine generates about one thousand
Speaker 1: tosses in a second. So you're looking at a very
Speaker 1: very sophisticated machine. And if you run for thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: you're going to see in time an equal number of
Speaker 1: ones or zeros or heads or tails, and you're going
Speaker 1: to see the straight line. And you get a group
Speaker 1: of people together with brain coherence and hard coherence, they're
Speaker 1: emitting a field. And when we do healings in our
Speaker 1: events one hundred percent of the time when we do
Speaker 1: those healings, those random event generators have dramatic skews to
Speaker 1: show that random events become less random and more intentional.
Speaker 1: And it's collective networks of observers that determine reality. And
Speaker 1: it's not the number of people. It's not the amount
Speaker 1: of energy because it could be entropic. It's the most
Speaker 1: coherent energy and causing a machine that's programmed to behave
Speaker 1: in a very very different way. And I think that
Speaker 1: idea of community of people coming together when everybody else
Speaker 1: is in fear, to show courage, when everybody else is
Speaker 1: in pain, to show compassion when everybody else is in
Speaker 1: anger or hatred, to show love. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: by nature as human beings, I think we are wired
Speaker 1: to give, to connect, to commune, to take care of
Speaker 1: one another, to heal one another, to shine for one another.
Speaker 1: And our data is so exciting to actually support that theorem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you brought that up. And that's
Speaker 2: you know, that's very macro and big as well, but
Speaker 2: also micro in that you're measuring people's daily experience. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, when I think about families who live together
Speaker 2: or couples or partners or whoever you may be. You know,
Speaker 2: when you're sleeping together, when you're waking up together at
Speaker 2: the same time, when you're sitting for meals together, when
Speaker 2: you know we've realized and we know that the science
Speaker 2: shows that your heart rates sync up like your heartbeats
Speaker 2: sync up when you're with someone. And I think it's
Speaker 2: really interesting because I think today and i individualistic world,
Speaker 2: there's a big desire to do things at our own
Speaker 2: time when we want how we want. But if you're
Speaker 2: truly trying to build a relationship with someone else, will
Speaker 2: build community. There's so much to be said for doing
Speaker 2: these basic practices at the same time together. Right.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to be in community when you're in
Speaker 1: survival because survival makes us put our attention on ourselves, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that when people are not living in survival,
Speaker 1: when they're out of survival, our nature really is community,
Speaker 1: is culture, is connection, and it starts with the self.
Speaker 1: Then it starts with our closest relationships and builds out
Speaker 1: from there. And I think that's a healthy model for
Speaker 1: the world. I mean, when you're working on yourself and
Speaker 1: I'm working on myself and I'm okay with me, and
Speaker 1: you're okay with you. We were going to be okay
Speaker 1: with everybody you know, and I think when we're not
Speaker 1: okay with ourselves, that's when it gets complicated.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Everyone who's listening and watching, make sure you
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Speaker 2: of this conversation that you'll listen to again and again
Speaker 2: and again, because you have to realize that the first
Speaker 2: time you hear it, there may be some inspiration, there
Speaker 2: may be some insight, but the second time that repetition
Speaker 2: is going to help you actually apply, rewire, and reconfigure.
Speaker 2: So make sure you repeat, listen, and make sure you
Speaker 2: share this with a friend as well, so you can
Speaker 2: discuss it, talk about it, put it into your own
Speaker 2: language and your vocabulary. That's such an important part of
Speaker 2: putting this into practice as well. Joe az Eva, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for making the time and effort, and
Speaker 2: know that you've always got unpredictable things happening in your
Speaker 2: life like this morning, but you chose to be here.
Speaker 2: And thank you so much for being here. I really
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jane, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you. If you love this episode, you'll enjoy my
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