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Speaker 3: Well, one thing we haven't agreed to is a cease fire.

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Speaker 1: And then do we go back to bombing.

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Speaker 2: No, four hours. We don't want four hours. We don't

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Speaker 4: So the situation at the border you're saying is not

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Speaker 4: a disaster, that is correct.

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Speaker 5: A fradom is back in style.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to the revolution.

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Speaker 5: That will come in to your sentence.

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Speaker 4: Going away saying you a conscious song Sean.

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Speaker 5: New Sean Hannity Show, more be I'm the Scenes, information

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Scott Shannon.

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Speaker 4: Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred ninety four one

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Speaker 4: I've known you, We've been friends for decade, and I

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Speaker 1: I remember you stood strong and.

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Speaker 4: Steadfast with America after nine to eleven and had a

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Speaker 1: But I am my deepest sympathies for what you're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: In fact, the American people across the board, the American government, Congress,

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Speaker 6: We have to win. There is no substitute for victory,

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Speaker 4: I hear you say that. It reminds me of Winston

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Speaker 3: There's no substitute for that victory. It'll affect the other

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Speaker 6: This is what Israel is doing.

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Speaker 3: But it's not only doing it for ourselves, for our sake,

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Speaker 1: The children cannot play outside.

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Speaker 4: we just heard from the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin att Yahoo.

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Speaker 2: Now, sir, how are you. It's great to be here

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Speaker 4: So obviously the Prime Minister I agree with him completely.

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Speaker 4: I think this is now a fight for Israel's survival.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any other way to look at it.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that, you know, we have an administration

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Speaker 7: I'm glad to say this. First of all. You know,

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Speaker 7: I mean, this State Department letter with four hundred people.

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Speaker 7: That's what the US has to stand for me beyond yeah.

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Speaker 4: H Let me remind everybody about the comments made by

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Speaker 6: Amasta shifted the balance of power.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what they're done. They don't have to be

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Speaker 6: It was exhilarating, It was fangising.

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Speaker 3: By this, this challenge to the monopoly of balance.

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Speaker 4: By this shifting of the balance of power, then they

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Speaker 4: Is that exhilarating by definition in your mind?

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Speaker 8: It's obviously not. And it's also not exhilarating to any

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Speaker 2: Well, who is responsible for that?

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Speaker 4: Because I would argue Hamas that wouldn't allow civilians to leave,

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Speaker 4: Hamas that has always been using civilians as human shields,

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Speaker 4: that they're responsible for this. They started this war, Israel

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Speaker 4: didn't want this war. Now Israel has to finish the war.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, one hundred percent agree with that point I'm making

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Speaker 8: is that she felt exhilarated by the death of Jews.

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Speaker 8: We don't feel exhilarated by the death of Palestinians. We

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Speaker 8: recognize that it's a war situation, that Israel has military objectives,

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Speaker 8: They're following the rules of war, they're not targeting civilians.

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Speaker 8: But my point is how horrible it is that someone

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Speaker 8: would feel exhilarated about the death of any children.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you the question that I just asked.

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Speaker 4: David shown this New York Post article about the Iranian

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Speaker 4: agent depending on aid and the story in the New

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Speaker 4: York Times about more than four hundred political appointees and

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Speaker 4: staff members representing forty government agencies sending a letter to

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Speaker 4: Biden protesting his support of Israel, or the Washington pree

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Speaker 4: Beacon article on the Biden administration funding even radical mosques

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Speaker 4: that call for the annihilation of Israel and Biden id

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Speaker 4: eyeing new sanctions, a new sanctions waiver that could hand

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Speaker 4: or ran another ten billion dollars.

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Speaker 8: You're that yeah, Well, I mean, I think if people remember,

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Speaker 8: this all goes back to the Obama administration and their

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Speaker 8: grand bargain to essentially hand the region to Iran. So

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Speaker 8: this is just a continuation. The Biden foreign policy team

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Speaker 8: is the Obama foreign policy team, so this is nothing new.

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Speaker 8: The coddling of the molas, the belief that the Molas

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Speaker 8: need to stay in power, the mistaken belief that that

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Speaker 8: somehow will help the United States. So this is all

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Speaker 8: gets back to the Grand Bargain that the team Obama

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Speaker 8: wanted to strike with the.

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Speaker 4: Molas agree now, David, I mean, it is heartwarming to

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Speaker 4: see as many people as we saw in Washington today.

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Speaker 2: But you know, we're.

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Speaker 4: Hearing, you know, all over the world a level of

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Speaker 4: anti semitism.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I ever expected to hear in my life.

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Speaker 4: It's in the halls of Congress, It's at our most

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Speaker 4: prestigious universities, it's at other colleges all around the country.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's all throughout Europe. It's happening.

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Speaker 4: You know, gas the Jews after Jews in Australia, a chant,

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Speaker 4: the call for antifada. Uh, you know, from the river

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Speaker 4: to the sea. How how much more did you ever

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Speaker 4: think that there was this much anti semitism in the

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Speaker 4: world and how acceptable it is in these institutions.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's the that's the key. That's good part is

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Speaker 7: especially we've always known symptoms around, but the acceptability now,

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Speaker 7: the normal ism is absolutely shocking. In Europe, sort of

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Speaker 7: asked in England, France, and so on. They knew who

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Speaker 7: they were taking in at the time. This has been

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Speaker 7: going on for quite a long time. A text on

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Speaker 7: Jews in the city. But here in America, these are

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Speaker 7: carring down the posters of kidnapped baby, kidnapped grandparents and

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Speaker 7: all of that.

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Speaker 6: This is just sick.

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Speaker 7: These are thugs. I wish we never could have seen

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Speaker 7: it coming, and I don't think we saw acceptibility coming.

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Speaker 4: As you said, yeah, well, it certainly is refreshing to

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Speaker 4: see the other side of this because all throughout New York,

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Speaker 4: and you spend a lot enough time here to know.

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Speaker 4: I passed through and saw one of these pro Hamas rallies.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know myself.

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Speaker 4: I heard the chanting from the river to the sea

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Speaker 4: and the call for antifada. I saw Times Square look

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Speaker 4: like New Year's zeve. There were so many people there,

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Speaker 4: and I just didn't realize there was so many radicals

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Speaker 4: amongst us.

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Speaker 7: David, Well, listen, what we're seeing in Congress now is unprecedented.

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Speaker 7: It used to be Cynthia McKinney. Then she was run

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Speaker 7: out of Congress because she was these people played Omar

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Speaker 7: Bush and on and on. The hate Squad are absolutely

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Speaker 7: unadulterated biggots. They are hate mongers that I've said it before.

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Speaker 7: They are no better than David Duke and they first,

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Speaker 7: they're more dangerous, certainly David Duke liars and they pose

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Speaker 7: a real danger.

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Speaker 8: Mark.

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Speaker 4: All right, quick break, we'll come back. We'll continue more

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Speaker 4: with David Shoon. He has been all day at the

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Speaker 4: march for Israel in DC. We'll get to your calls.

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Speaker 4: Coming up, Greg Jarrett coming up, eight hundred and ninety

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Speaker 4: four one, Shawn is a number. More with Bill Jacobson

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Speaker 4: as well as we continue.

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Speaker 5: The final hour of the Sean Hannity Show was up

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Speaker 5: next Hang on for Sean's conservative solutions.

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Speaker 4: All right, we continue now with Bill Jacobson, Cornell Law professor,

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Speaker 4: and David Shoon, a civil rights attorney. And also he's

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Speaker 4: been at the march for Israel all day in Washington,

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Speaker 4: d C. I think we now have to talk about

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Speaker 4: what Israel needs to do to defend itself. Number One,

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Speaker 4: they can't listen to the Biden administration and they call

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Speaker 4: for a temporary cease fire. They've got to win the war.

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Speaker 4: To me, the definition of winning the war has to

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Speaker 4: look like this. Bill Jacobson guys that could no longer

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Speaker 4: be a launching pad for rockets into Israel. Nor can Lebanon,

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Speaker 4: where hes Bela has been launching. This has been going

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Speaker 4: on for decades. The Iron Dome, you know, as great

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Speaker 4: at it as it is, has only been a band aid.

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Speaker 4: The terror tunnels must all be destroyed. There's network of

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Speaker 4: hundreds of miles of tunnels that were built by the

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Speaker 4: leaders of Hamas and others that they have to go away.

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Speaker 4: If anybody else's firing rockets, they too must be destroyed,

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Speaker 4: be it the Houti rebels or sympathizers in Syria. And

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Speaker 4: then you've got this other issue that gets very complicated,

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Speaker 4: and that is the head of the snake, and that

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Speaker 4: would be Iran, which has been fighting these proxy wars

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Speaker 4: and funding these groups and training these groups to attack Israel.

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Speaker 4: At some point they're going to have to be dealt with,

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Speaker 4: and that point has got to be before they become

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Speaker 4: a nuclear armed country.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that that's right. I mean Gaza. Israel

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Speaker 8: has to completely remove Hamas and has to demilitarize Gaza

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Speaker 8: so that it never rises again. We have a history here.

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Speaker 8: A few attacks on their infrastructure doesn't do it. They

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Speaker 8: just come back. They've announced they're going to do this again.

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Speaker 8: Their spokesman has announced so, and it's Israelis have also

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Speaker 8: been very clear this is not something that's going to

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Speaker 8: be a matter of weeks. It's a matter of months.

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Speaker 8: They're probably going to have to spend six to eight

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Speaker 8: months because Hamas is so dug in there. Just like

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Speaker 8: the you know, denotification of Germany took time, so is

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Speaker 8: the de hamosification of Gaza. And I fear that the

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Speaker 8: Biden administration, through various means, is going to try to

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Speaker 8: get Israel to pull up short. And I hope they

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Speaker 8: have the strength because I think they have the backing

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Speaker 8: of the American people, even if they don't have the

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Speaker 8: US State Department, I think they have the backing of

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Speaker 8: the American people to finish getting rid of Hamas and

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Speaker 8: finally at least.

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Speaker 4: See But I'm saying, and I'll get David's take on this, David,

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, it's bigger than Hamas. It's also Hezbollah and Lebanon.

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Speaker 4: It's also the Houti rebels at a Yemen. It's also

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Speaker 4: you know, those that are firing rockets out of Syria

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Speaker 4: and then at some point you got to look to,

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Speaker 4: you know, the origins of all this, and that begins

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Speaker 4: in Iran.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely because of itself. It's not just on Islama Shiahad.

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Speaker 7: We know the hospital and so you know, I studied

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Speaker 7: these groups long time when I represented American victims of

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Speaker 7: Palestinian terror, and I have to tell you a boss

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Speaker 7: is satakh is really not. They haven't engaged in this

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Speaker 7: kind of mutilation, barbarism, kamasas, but they are dedicated to

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Speaker 7: destruction of Israel. A recent poll showed, however, Israeli Arabs

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Speaker 7: it's something like seventy percent favor living in the country

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Speaker 7: of of Israel rather than under the authority of a

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Speaker 7: boss or abas or otherwise. I think, now what we

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Speaker 7: know the real facts on the grounds by the overwhelming fashion,

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Speaker 7: So just remove it. Comas isn't going to do it.

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Speaker 7: It starts with Iran. You're one hundred percent right to

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Speaker 7: see Iran now for using proxies to attack United States troops.

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Speaker 7: At some point we have to come to terms with

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Speaker 7: it as horrible and as dangerous as disease. If they

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Speaker 7: risk the very existence of the world.

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Speaker 4: Their new relationship with China, Russia, North Korea ought to

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Speaker 4: scare the entire world because that could expedite their desire

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Speaker 4: this radical sick you know isis you know, converter dime

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