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Speaker 2: Look at this now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: It is the fifteenth of September, halfway through the ninth

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Speaker 1: Can you believe it? It is time everyone for your

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Speaker 1: midweek Morning Combat. Hello. My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: I'm from CBS Sports as well as Showtime on occasion,

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Speaker 3: and I'm joined by a man who, when he's not

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Speaker 3: hawking T shirts, he's dyeing his hair all kinds of

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Speaker 3: colors of the rainbow. He's the King of Connecticut. He

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: You see I'm pretty gray at the moment, Luke, not

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Speaker 2: you know, emotionally, just hair wise, although my wife did

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Speaker 2: drop a nice just for men on my bathroom sink

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Speaker 2: Yesterday'm like, you're trying to tell me something, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, say it to my face, right, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? So we'll see if I start showing

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Speaker 2: up somewhere between this and that shoe Polish Black Elvis

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Speaker 2: sixty eight Comeback Special, that your boy pulled out in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas in error. Okay, as we found out in error.

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Speaker 2: Either way, Luke, it's a no no Jay Wednesday. It's

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Speaker 2: glad to be here, damn glad to be here and

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Speaker 2: fired up because there's a lot of good stuff going

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Speaker 2: on in this MK universe right now, Luke, that I

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Speaker 2: think the people are gonna, you know, enjoy, They're gonna

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Speaker 2: a time like?

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Speaker 1: Elvis?

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Speaker 3: How close to dying on the toilet did you come

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Speaker 3: during that Vegas trip?

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Speaker 2: You know, we've had our moments on the road. Look, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's just say that. But uh got a big got

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Speaker 2: a big liver doctor's appointment tomorrow that was rescheduled a

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Speaker 2: few times. So I'll have a better handle on Friday show, Luke,

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Speaker 2: whether we break up simply because we secretly hate each other,

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Speaker 2: or whether my health takes me out for good Luke, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully it comes to neither of those things. Today

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Speaker 3: is actually my nine year wedding anniversary. I would wish

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Speaker 3: chance she's watching, so I'll just do that for you. Dogswise.

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Speaker 2: Nine years of your life though, best nine right, for sure.

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Speaker 3: For sure and some of the most impactful as well. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Not like those that time, those prominent national boxing writers

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Speaker 3: So beyond that, if you want to try Showtime, which

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Speaker 2: Well, look, we said it's going to be for a

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Speaker 2: so here's the deal. If you missed out, for now,

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Speaker 2: good news is though, if you go to Morningcombat Dot Store,

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Speaker 2: But we got plenty of new stuff, plenty of great

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Speaker 2: You know, I know you like coffee and you like tea.

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Speaker 2: But to be able to enter a final plea, you

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Speaker 2: so please do that. We got the uh, we got

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Speaker 2: you know, Luke, we'll see if we can get a

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Speaker 2: couple more specials out there. Maybe get your face on

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Speaker 2: in the ethosphere. As they say, Luke, right.

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Speaker 3: That's right, there is much more to come. We have

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're getting better with the merch. Yesterday

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Speaker 2: I'm a poor you a guy. Why don't you why

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Speaker 2: don't you step back? Is that kind of what happened?

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Speaker 3: Luke, I don't know. I wasn't there and I don't care.

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Speaker 3: It's well, it's a topic that some of you guys

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Speaker 3: they both passed their fight night drug test, which is

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Speaker 1: For whatever that is worth, folks, doesn't mean a.

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Speaker 2: Lot to me. Okay, he did say it was a

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Speaker 2: urine test. On Once you heard it was a urine test,

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Speaker 2: you're like, all that they ain't failing that one, Luke, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and also if it was a blood test,

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Speaker 1: BC. So what he.

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Speaker 3: Basically said was that he used the fact that Tyrone

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Speaker 3: That he's moving on. Is the words that he would

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Speaker 3: realized is that there's not much upside in a rematch

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Speaker 3: there are estimates that's sold about five hundred k pay

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Speaker 3: To MEBC, We've talked about this a million times. Folks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, Jake Paul's handled so much of this boxing

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Speaker 2: But the projections are showing you that this experiment is working.

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Speaker 2: I'd consider it. Luke, when talking about all the opponents,

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Speaker 2: But it's clear to me from Jake's words that Jorge

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Speaker 2: From this standpoint, Jake would probably be a betting underdog

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Speaker 2: but Luke, you could say that's potentially, all things considered,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think it would be monumental. I think

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Speaker 3: The funny thing about the charges of him ducking Anderson,

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Speaker 3: The whole thing is ducking. It's ducking completely away from

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Speaker 3: like I mean, it's supposed to be. It's supposed to

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Speaker 2: Are we being fair to him? Because there's people that

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Speaker 3: This is what it's about. You either want to see

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Speaker 3: He's young, he's got a name. We've talked about it before.

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Speaker 2: Jake was asked if he would come back this year,

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Speaker 2: That might be the next step to complete, to continue

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting how he navigates what he

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Speaker 2: in terms of co promotion along with Lou de Bella,

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Speaker 2: her current promoter, and that they are talking to Eddie

431
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Speaker 2: Hearn to try to make this Amanda Serrano Katie Taylor

432
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 2: lightweight undisputed championship fighter reality. That's interesting, Luke, that's an

433
00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,720
Speaker 2: interesting sort of pivot here.

434
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Speaker 3: I actually tend to think if he wants a future

435
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,240
Speaker 3: in boxing, that's a real one. That's one where he

436
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 3: you know, obviously we're very early stages of whatever that

437
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 3: might be as well. But listen, if you took what

438
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,679
Speaker 3: did you take away from the Cleveland experience, I'll tell

439
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 3: you what I took away from that. It's quite obviously

440
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 3: this kid is, you know, we've talked about it before,

441
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:17,720
Speaker 3: for a celebrity.

442
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 1: He can box.

443
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 3: For a boxer, he's just a celebrity's that's always what

444
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna be, no matter what, for the most part,

445
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,639
Speaker 3: but he does have a he's a very capable self promoter.

446
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,399
Speaker 3: One and two, did will you realize he was in

447
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 3: charge of fifty percent of everything you saw from the

448
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 3: night of the broadcast to the workouts to the presser

449
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 3: that was his company MVP staging those events and then

450
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 3: showtime essentially acting as a broadcast partner. This dude has

451
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 3: his hands in a lot of different parts of the

452
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Speaker 3: fight game.

453
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Speaker 1: It does seem to me be seen.

454
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Speaker 3: We'll see how things go with the Serrano and Katie

455
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 3: Taylor negotiations with with with Eddie Hearn. But let's say

456
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 3: he can help bring that to fruition you want to

457
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 3: place in the game. It seems to me that that

458
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,919
Speaker 3: might actually be a route that you can take. I

459
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 3: tend to think that seems like it potentially potentially fortuitous possibilities.

460
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Speaker 2: There, Yeah, no question about it, uh Luke. I want

461
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 2: to I always like to close rapid style and get

462
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 2: your opinion on here. What would it take to get

463
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 2: Dana involved? Would it be two three more knockouts and

464
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: doubling your pay per view audience? What would it take

465
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 2: to get Dana to say, okay Na Diez's contract is

466
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 2: coming to a close soon. I'll get in on this

467
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: with you.

468
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Speaker 1: I don't know. The thing about it was Mayweather and

469
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 1: Connor was so huge. It moved mountains. I don't know if.

470
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 3: There is any permutation that gets that done, which is

471
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 3: not to say there's not a gazillion matchups. You couldn't

472
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 3: think of Connor, Jorge, Nate Diaz, whatever in the boxing

473
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 3: side of things that would make killer money, maybe even

474
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Speaker 3: two million in pay per view buys, Like I think

475
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 3: it could do that, But is there anything that gets

476
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 3: you above three or four, which is the territory for

477
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 3: Mayweather and McGregor, actually four, I don't think so. I

478
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: don't think that exists, and so for that reason, I

479
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: tend to think that they're just sort of putting it

480
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: out there. But I will say this, it's dude, Dana

481
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: White cannot do any kind of scrum with the media

482
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 3: without someone several media members bringing up Jake Paul constantly.

483
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: It's the biggest thorn in his side short of fighter pay,

484
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 3: which and those two are related there.

485
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why if you're like, hey, guys, enough on

486
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: fricking Jake Paul. Dude, he's on the front. He's on

487
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: the tip of the tongue of both sides of the

488
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 2: line right now because he draws it is what it is.

489
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: But I think you to your point, there. Twenty seventeen

490
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: was a different area. That was Connor's going away, Rowsey's done,

491
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: UFC needs some money pre ESPN deals, So that was

492
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: a different time so to speak. You're not gonna see

493
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: that again unless something major changes. And also, Luke, how

494
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 2: many more fights do you think before you and I

495
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 2: start to go? Okay, Jake, now you got to face

496
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: the guys your size with better experience. I mean, how

497
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 2: much longer on the Hey, he's the celebrities calling the shots.

498
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: How much rope are you gonna give him before you're like,

499
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: all right, eth this, now you got to you gotta

500
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: fight Vito or somebody like that.

501
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: He's a little bit trapped because if he goes out

502
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 3: there and he beats Tommy Fury in let's say, you know,

503
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: Dominant Fashion or something, the calls for him to fight

504
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: somebody who is considered a much more credible threat to

505
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 3: him will intensify, and at that point you begin to

506
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 3: trade off what you could generate by virtue of not

507
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 3: meeting fan demand. On the other hand, if it's you know,

508
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 3: relatively ho hum, but he gets a win, he doesn't

509
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: face necessarily some of those pressures, but you're not really

510
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 3: giving the fans the kind of return that they need.

511
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: I think over time anyway to sustain this effort. So

512
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 3: probably a little while longer I think it can go

513
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 3: this way, but I do think ultimately this is gonna

514
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: come to some kind of conclusion based on either Peter's

515
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 3: out one way or he loses badly in the bubble bursts.

516
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how else this can go on.

517
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: For so long. I'm Shavis Junior Luke. I'm getting up

518
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: in the bullpen. There may be one more payday for

519
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: me at the end of this Rambo.

520
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what is he doing that?

521
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: Dude probably woke up with like Dorito crumbs on his

522
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: chest after he passed out in the bed, you know,

523
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: watching Family Guy reruns. I don't know what he's doing

524
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: with his life. Okay, let's go topic number two. So

525
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: this is one that we didn't want to get to

526
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: on Monday because we had other things to get to

527
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: and we kind of like thought, well, you know, let's

528
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: get to this when we need to get to this,

529
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: and we probably don't need to get to it today.

530
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: But I do think it's worth having a conversation about. Namely,

531
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: there is a transgender fighter who transitioned from male to female.

532
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Speaker 1: Her name is.

533
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Speaker 3: Alana McLoughlin McLoughlin. I think it's a McLoughlin, Yes, like

534
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: the McLoughlin group, and.

535
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Speaker 1: She competes in Combate.

536
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: Global and one her last about not too long ago.

537
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 3: I have the article up here from ESPN. This was

538
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: in yeah, eleventh of September, so this is just last week. Okay,

539
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of discussion about this BC. I've

540
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: did a fair amount of research for this topic, BC,

541
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Speaker 3: but I'm curious. I'm not even sure where to start

542
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 3: with this one. But I guess the basic question I

543
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 3: would ask is one, have you reviewed at least any

544
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 3: of her fights? And two what is your take way

545
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: about to what extent combat sports should carve out a

546
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: place for fighters like this?

547
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, this is this is a topic that certainly

548
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: has legs and much further directions. You see that a

549
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: lot debates on the high school level, Lucas, but you

550
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: know when when when males transition to females and then

551
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 2: dominate and is that costing kids scholarship opportunities? You see

552
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: that a lot in different areas combat sports can certainly

553
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: be a little different because of the danger involved. My

554
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: knee jerk reaction is someone in line with a lot

555
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: of the fighter reaction that we're seeing just saying, look

556
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: like this doesn't seem to be fair. At the end

557
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: of the day, someone in this case a lot of

558
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: who's got the you know, the the military background and

559
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: the you know they show you show them before an

560
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: actor video and your your your knee jerk reaction is

561
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: to have fear for the females that she could potentially fight.

562
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: And obviously in this case, you know, for Cambate that

563
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: they found an opponent who was willing. It took them

564
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 2: a while, but but you know, kudos and it was

565
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: on that point. It's on you know, more or less

566
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: even terms if both fighters agree. But I do think, Luke,

567
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: even though right now I'm against it from the standpoint

568
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: of fighter safety, something's eventually going to have to be

569
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: done across all sports Looke because we are going into

570
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: it into more inclusive times in just about every category

571
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: that are so different socially and culturally from even when

572
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: we were five, ten, fifteen years ago. I mean, look,

573
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: think about the the just you know, the jokes that

574
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: used to be considered okay to make in public in

575
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: your office that are now horribly insensitive, and you're like, well,

576
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: you know, why would I just seven years ago think

577
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: that that was okay to do publicly? And I'm wondering, Luke,

578
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: if this leads to, you know, a removal of genders

579
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: in the as it pertains to sports down the line,

580
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: do sports one day become gender free with the continued

581
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: inclusion in so many aspects of life where it's just

582
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: sort of like at the highest levels it's just sort

583
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: of open. It's not male or female, it's just sort

584
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 2: of in that case, Luke, it's just sort of like

585
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: people would be like, Okay, go for it, you know,

586
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: if you're a fighter who has transitioned already and you

587
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: feel you can camp and that go. But we're not

588
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: there yet, Luke, And we don't seem to be anywhere

589
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: close to that yet. So I don't know what the

590
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: right answer is within this specific rounds because as males

591
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: and females, as we know today, there is a major

592
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: difference in power. That's the fear, you know, bone structure, size, power,

593
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: all of that. There's no there's no overlooking that. And

594
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: as that pertains right now to to pro fighting or

595
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: even in high school basketball if the if this, you know,

596
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: or high school wrestling, if the size difference was that much,

597
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: it's an unfair potential advantage. And when you have a

598
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: sport that it could cause legitimate danger and it's already

599
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: dangerous enough. I'm sort of stuck at this point where

600
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 2: I do agree with a lot of the fighters, you know,

601
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: not not in a hateful way, but in a way

602
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: that that as of right now, this isn't fair. Will

603
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: it one day be fair? Could one fighter come along

604
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: that changes our thoughts and perceptions on this? I do

605
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: think one day we'll get there. I mean, the evolution

606
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: of so many things positive have have have happened quick

607
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: in this modern day. But Luke, I don't know how

608
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: you can sign off on that now though, the way

609
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: things are set up right now.

610
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm more or less in agreement with you.

611
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: I want to say a couple of things about it. First,

612
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: It's number one, whenever you have some kind of issue

613
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 3: like this in combat sports, you naturally bear witness to

614
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: what can only be described as the ugliest version of it,

615
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: and not just from small corners on YouTube comments, but

616
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: from fighters as well. Listen, if you can't make an

617
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: argument about the science. Then you can't make an argument

618
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: about this. This is not an argument about whether or

619
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: not people should be transgender, whether they shouldn't, whether it's

620
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: a good thing, whether it's a bad thing. This is

621
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: not really the argument. The argument is now that they

622
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: are here, to what extent do they deserve inclusion in

623
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 3: these protected categories male versus female right, And we call

624
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: it protected for a reason because if you didn't have

625
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 3: categories the way you're indicating BC, Let's imagine we didn't

626
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: have weight classes. You know, Kabeb's never going to be

627
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: a champion. If there are no weight classes, you have

628
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 3: to have certain kinds of protective classes, and in combat sports,

629
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: weight is one of them, gender is another. Then the

630
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: whole point about fairness of sport kind of.

631
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: Goes out the window.

632
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: But there are a lot of people who like to

633
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: parade insanely retrograde, absolutely horrific views about other human beings

634
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 3: under the guise that what they're doing is making an

635
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: argument about fairness and sports because at their heart, BC,

636
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: they're just so concerned about the state of women's sports. No,

637
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: these are bigots who just want you to know that

638
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: they're bigots, and they want to use something like this

639
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: as a cudgel and as a trojan horse to get

640
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: into the conversation. Well, to me, they don't belong in

641
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: any capacity whatsoever, and I won't tolerate it.

642
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: To your point five seconds, it's no different than people

643
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: using politics or religion to cover up a certain level

644
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: of hate over a certain topic.

645
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, and so to the extent that

646
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: those opinions are out there, I don't give a fuck it.

647
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you.

648
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: After the pandemic, there's a lot of people and MMA fighters, managers, promoter,

649
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: some media included. You have surrendered the right to have

650
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: a serious opinion based on the idiocy with which you

651
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: have tackled everything through this point.

652
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: Let me put that out there first.

653
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: Now, the first thing I came to was here, like,

654
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: how am I even possibly going to adjudicate this in

655
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: any way? Fallon Fox was weird for me because we

656
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: had this situation and we didn't really have any research

657
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: to understand better what it means to have someone in

658
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: her particular situation, which was full grown adult male who

659
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: then transitioned later in adult life. This is something similar

660
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: to that case with Alana McLoughlin. So I looked up

661
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: and I've been following this guy for a long time.

662
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: We don't agree on a lot of issues, especially really

663
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: to doping. But there's a science of sport professor named

664
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: doctor Ross Tucker. He has done incredible research. In fact,

665
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: he has been instrumental in helping world rugby cope with

666
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: the situation like what do you do with males who

667
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: have transitioned to females who want to play on rugby teams?

668
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: To what extent should that be allowed? And he of

669
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: course makes the argument very clearly upfront, this has nothing,

670
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: nothing thing to do with trying to police people's life choices.

671
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: And to the extent that that gets brought in at all,

672
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: these people don't they don't have a role in this debate.

673
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: You are not relevant. You have an axe to grind

674
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: that is no place here. But there was a study

675
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: done in Sweden recently and a lot of this information

676
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: is recent that found they did. Now, it's a smaller

677
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: study and they did not include like, let's say, highest

678
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: level athletes, so there are some problems with the study.

679
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: More research is needed, But what they looked.

680
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: Into was there's just what are some of the major

681
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 3: things that are done when you have this transition from

682
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: male to female. The biggest one that they offer as

683
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: evidence that the advantages are essentially removed is this hormone

684
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: suppression testosterone repression, and what they basically found was that,

685
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: for example, in weightlifting, males tend to have a thirty

686
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: to forty percent advantage in pure strength at the elite

687
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: level over the women. That's why they are again protected classes.

688
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: What they found was that even after a year of

689
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: testosterone essentially and hormone suppression, the amount that it made

690
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: in terms of things like, for example, hemoglobin concentration, which

691
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 3: would be you know, red blood cell concentration in your body,

692
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: that did go down to female levels pretty quickly, but

693
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: a lot of other things including strength, lean muscle mass,

694
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: muscle retention, whatnot, that we had less than a five

695
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: percent change after a year. And what that basically says,

696
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: Kabati Global is not the highest level of sport, but

697
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: that transitioning from male to female, you are going to

698
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: carry an x amount of advantage. Even with the hormone suppression,

699
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: it only reduces that advantage by a slight amount. Now,

700
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: as they indicate that this research is fairly new, there

701
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: is more.

702
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: That is required.

703
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: But the idea that hormone suppression, testosterone repression by itself

704
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: and getting it to a level that would be on

705
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: par with their female counterparts, that that is evidence enough

706
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: of reducing the advantage is simply not true. In other words,

707
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: what does the research currently say. It currently says that

708
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: probably allowing transgender fighters who have transitioned after getting all

709
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: of the benefits through puberty that testosterone provides is not

710
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: going to confer fair advantages. That's what the existing research says.

711
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: But I will tell you BC, and I think you

712
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: raised a great point. Listen, man, you can have I

713
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: think right now, you can have inclusion or you can

714
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: have fairness in sports. I don't think you can have both,

715
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: But I also don't think that that is sustainable over

716
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: the long run. Forget about combat sports, which you know,

717
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: this becomes much more immediate given safety concerns. We had

718
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: Laurel Hubbard, the weightlifter who was from New Zealand, tried

719
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: to compete. She totally bombed out at the Olympics. I'm

720
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: just pointing out they're not going the way. There's going

721
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: to be more and more of these situations. So more

722
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: research is done, and I am open to the idea

723
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: that subsequent research could tell us things that our existing

724
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: research does not, and we're going to have to change

725
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: our opinion. I don't think this is an issue we

726
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: can just get about. But I do think in all fairness,

727
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: if we're trying to evaluate the best evidence that we have,

728
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: the best evidence indicates this is not something that currently

729
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: should be allowed.

730
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. And and you have to ask, Okay,

731
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: what can a promotion do moving forward? What can can

732
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: bate do if they want to continue to promote Alana?

733
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: Do you have to make fights to exhibition or have it?

734
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: You know? I mean, you certainly have to find willing opponents,

735
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: and if you do again, then then you know fair play.

736
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: But even then, even if you find a willing opponent,

737
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: that again, dude, either women's sports as a category matter

738
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: or they don't, right, And if we're going to have

739
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: that as a protected class, which you should, then again,

740
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: if you watch her fight, she's.

741
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: She's not very good.

742
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: She's okay, she's enough to get on that level, and

743
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: she won her last fight, although she got rocked a

744
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: little bit and had to come back. And it's not

745
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: like I want to deny these people every opportunity they

746
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: are owed. They enough just I mean, can you imagine

747
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: like the kinds of messages this person gets from the

748
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 3: hateful members of I mean, it must be an endless

749
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: stream of it.

750
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't wish that upon anyone.

751
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: Men, Do you remember what I mean? Just look back

752
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: at the crap Cyboard got from Rousey and Dana. I mean,

753
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: like it's you know, we're not that far removed from

754
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: that Luke, you know, and that's not even.

755
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 3: Exact, and we're not even and we're not even dealing

756
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 3: with the same issue there.

757
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: We're just dealing with.

758
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: Somebody that's not even an Apple's apple situation. It just

759
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: shows you the knee jerk sort of like ignorant response

760
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: that is that is still so prevalent.

761
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 3: But I just feel like I just feel like, and

762
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: there's there, you know, I'll recommend I'll tweet out some

763
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: links for some folks after the show if they want

764
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: to go and hear what Ross Tucker the professor and they,

765
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: you know, the sort of the world authority on this

766
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: has to say.

767
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: I currently, I really recommend that.

768
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: Uh it's not I don't love the idea of just

769
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: saying no to people like go find something else, and

770
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: we don't have something else for them. But at the

771
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: at the same time, if, if, if, what we actually

772
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: really care about is making sure that women have the

773
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: utmost amount of fairness. I don't know what research you

774
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: can point to to say that this is a thing

775
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: that should be allowed, even if we can recognize that,

776
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: you know, is she gonna beat the world's best women. No,

777
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: she's not gonna beat the world's best women. But that

778
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: doesn't mean she's not retaining advantages relative to the baseline

779
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: that was previously there given the competition change, And.

780
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean we won't see positive step forward, which

781
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: is if you find enough transition fighters for male to

782
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: female that that want to compete at the highest level

783
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: they can for promotion to like I sort of tease

784
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: create a division, you know, for that And does that

785
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: lead to the eventual down the road removal of gender

786
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: classifications in fight sports. You have to think it'd be.

787
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: It'd be ignorant to say it never would, Luke, eventually

788
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: it would, But we seem to be a very far,

789
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, far away from that. This you know, this,

790
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: just talking like this even on this show is obviously

791
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: a positive step in the right direction to sort of

792
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: figure out how to be inclusive without without being you know, dangerous,

793
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: and the science is gonna the research will have to

794
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: be a lot in that, as you said, and uh,

795
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, it's also takes time for people and decision

796
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: making situations to to want to open up these doors

797
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: as well. But it's tough, Luke. It's tough for somebody,

798
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: just like it was tough before Title nine for women

799
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: that wanted to play sports at a higher level. And

800
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: couldn't you know, you're gonna have to have pioneers along

801
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: the way that push boundaries. It just seems to be

802
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: very early in that regard where you're gonna find a

803
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: lot of people willing to say yes for the right reasons.

804
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: Right, And I often see like, you know, oh, there's

805
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: not really a whole lot of them. Aren't there other

806
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: things we could be doing to promote women's sports, Yes,

807
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: ignoring the transgender issue for a moment, Are there other

808
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: things that could be done to make women's sports better, safer?

809
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: Whatever?

810
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: Of course there are, but that doesn't really change the

811
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 3: immediacy of this issue. And granted it's not team sports where,

812
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: for example, if you're a transgender player and you play

813
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: in a team sports the amount of other players you

814
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: come into contact with on opposing teams. You know, that

815
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: becomes a lot of people over time, versus MMA it's

816
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: just one at a time. So the scale problem isn't

817
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: there either in the same way it might be for

818
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: other kinds of sports.

819
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: I recognize.

820
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot more examination of this

821
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 3: that has to happen to b see. What if someone

822
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 3: transitions for whatever reason prior to puberty, what does that

823
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: do to the debate? There's just a lot we just

824
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: don't know. But I'm basing what my opinion is on

825
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: what the experts are telling me in this field, and

826
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: they're telling me that the current way in which we

827
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: are managing the situation does not reduce meaningfully the overwhelming

828
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: advantages that come from a protected class to another, and

829
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: I think that has to matter at some point.

830
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: You have to wonder, though, Luke, are we ten years

831
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: away from the first transgender fighter fighting in the UFC

832
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: at the highest level? You know, will the UFC still

833
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: be at the highest level at that point. It's going

834
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: to be interesting how history evolves.

835
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: And by the way, no one really cares about the

836
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: other way, where women go to men, and we've seen

837
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 3: a boxer do that, go from a female to male

838
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: and actually win. But you know, obviously it's not the

839
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: same kind of moral dilemma that this one brings up.

840
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: This we've seen people like Vitor go to you know,

841
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen and just have more testosterone than any human

842
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: has ever had at one point, Luke, you know, and

843
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: look at those results.

844
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: Right in the end, the authorities will make the decisions

845
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: based on the best I hope, the best available science

846
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: that exist, whatever time that may be, in whatever condition

847
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: that may be, and we'll leave it at that. But

848
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: I want to be clear one more time. The overwhelming

849
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: amount of discussion I have seen about this issue is

850
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: people bringing in their priors about how they don't like

851
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: transgender people and then using this issue as a way

852
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: to paste their hateful world ideology on top of it.

853
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: You can take that shit to another sucker, because it

854
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: has no place at all in this conversation. And I

855
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: really will I will talk.

856
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: Like miss me with that hate and miss me with

857
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: PC's attempt at the Vitor bell for mohawk joke, even

858
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: though I think it hit pretty good, Luke.

859
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, okay.

860
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: Topic number three, the mohawk joke was okay. Topic number

861
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: three BC. We kind of got to it on Monday,

862
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: but I want to revisit it in BC.

863
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: I have a very.

864
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: Simple question for you. We're talking about Joel Romero, who

865
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: headlines Saturday against Phil Davis at the SAP Center on

866
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: showtime for Bellator BC.

867
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a.

868
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: Question, why hasn't there been any interviews with Yoel this

869
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: week on any media outlet that I can find.

870
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: It's a fair question, Luke, you got good questions this

871
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: week about Belatore. Was Phil Davis the right matchup for him?

872
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: Which I thought was an interesting one on Monday. I

873
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: have also looked for research for this show today. No one,

874
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Yoel again because this is a fight.

875
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: We both really want to see a lot of unanswered questions.

876
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, and Luke, I, I you know, I

877
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: don't think we investigated a lot after after Yoel fell

878
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: out of the Rumble Johnson fight with the eye injury.

879
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: You know, is how much is this gonna damage his future?

880
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: You know? Beltor was quick to say, don't worry, he'll

881
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: be back soon making his debut, and it is relatively soon.

882
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 2: Although obviously we all lament the rumble Romero matchup, in

883
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: the fact that it was part of the tournament to

884
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: kick it off, I mean that would have been there

885
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: was some some rightful just buzz around that. I'm hoping, Luke,

886
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: it's it's much ado about nothing, and we're staying quiet

887
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: for a good reason. And you well can come out there,

888
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: past medicals, get into this fight and show us what

889
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: he has in this portion, this chapter of his career,

890
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: moving back up to light heavyweight, still has the star value,

891
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: still has the expectations of violence and knockouts. But can

892
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: he fight at the elite level here in Belator? Are

893
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: you fearful, Luke, of something medical?

894
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: Here? Something's just a little off for me.

895
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: I don't really know what it is, and maybe it's

896
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: just an unusual confluence of events BC where there really

897
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: is no story there, There is no there there.

898
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

899
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: I legitimately do not know which end of the spectrum

900
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: this belongs in. But this is what occurs to me.

901
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: I didn't see any interviews for him. I'm like, dude,

902
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: for his Like, there's no way he's not getting requests.

903
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: He's just not fielding them, and that by itself is

904
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: not uncommon either. But you know, we saw him for

905
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 3: that belat or media day. He couldn't have been more jovial.

906
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: So why wouldn't he want to do media?

907
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

908
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: Fighters have the reasons, but that is a little bit unusual,

909
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: especially for the guy who's a little bit more of

910
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: the gregarious sort Number one. Now, obviously he will do

911
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: some media s part of fight week this week, so

912
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: maybe that all goes away. But I did find it

913
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 3: curious enough to the point where I texted as manager

914
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 3: in Malkey Cow, I'm like, bro, where are all these interviews?

915
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't know either, He wasn't exactly sure

916
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: what the reason is. I find that to be a

917
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: little bit off, And then I think.

918
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: It plays into the larger thing here, Luke that you know,

919
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: the rumble Romero buzz was just naturally euphoric. It was like,

920
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: what the hell is this freak show of all time

921
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: great knockout artists gonna look like? You know, it's just

922
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: gonna be a beautiful disaster of everything. Nobody, it seems,

923
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: is talking enough about, you know, the challenge at Steak

924
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: here for Romero, the fact that this is a very

925
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: interesting technical matchup, and just you know what's at stake

926
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: From the standpoint of if Romero wins and looks great

927
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: and this ends up looking like a you know, a

928
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: great free agent signing, what can he bring to the

929
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: promotion in terms of legit, title contention mixed with with

930
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: star value and must see quality. It's it's very interesting.

931
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: I hope it picks up the next few days. But Luke,

932
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: this fight frickin' rules, and it ain't easy under any

933
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: stretch of the imagination for Romero to make his debut

934
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: with Yeah.

935
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: And then the other part was I looked on his

936
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: Instagram page BC and some of these photos are old,

937
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: and whatever problem he had that there might be physical

938
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: differences in the eyes doesn't necessarily mean a lot. But

939
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 3: if you look that the eyes have a different posture

940
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: in the face, one eyes is consistently more open and

941
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: sort of more alert than the other, Well what does

942
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 3: that mean. I'm not a medical doctor, I don't know,

943
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: but I'll just say this, Between those sort of factors,

944
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 3: how relevant they may be or not, and this other

945
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: reality where dude, he came out of the signing of

946
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: the news that he was moving to Belletour with a

947
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: ton of heat. Imagine we have a situation where there's

948
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: just not a lot of media. We don't know the

949
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: state of his eyes enough to pass the commission test.

950
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: That's fine, but you know, long term, how much is there.

951
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: You go and you fight Phil Davis and let's say

952
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: it's you know, close, but he just sort of loses

953
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: a relatively ho hummed decision. BC does that the balloon

954
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: in all of the grandeur that was Yo well going

955
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: to Bellatort, especially when you're add on top of that

956
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: he's reaching he's close to his mid forties at this point.

957
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: I realize it's different, but there is that factor.

958
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: That is that's in play, that is legitimately in play,

959
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted to sort of ask you today, Luke,

960
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: about not just mentality but strategy in here. Look, we

961
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: know Romero situation hasn't fought since right before the pandemic,

962
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: when he dropped that close split decision to israelat a

963
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: Soignia for the UFC middleweight title. He'll be going back

964
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: to light Headway for the first time since twenty eleven

965
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: under the strikeforced banner on showtime when he lost to

966
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: him was at Jafael Cavalcanti. Hasn't fought out two five show,

967
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, I haven't fought at two of

968
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: five since then. So, Luke, considering that he's in this

969
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: weird predicament where he's lost three of his last four fights,

970
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: of course, but all three were against supremely elite competition, sorry,

971
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: four of his last five. So he's lost four of

972
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: last five, coming in all four against the super elite

973
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: in this game, and all four you could make an

974
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: argument that he did enough to win. Is it time

975
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: for Yoel to go yolo? At two five?

976
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: Now?

977
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: Different setup, different situation. He is still a freak of nature,

978
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: so maybe at the higher weight his speed and he's

979
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: a great boxer will come into play. But Luke, you

980
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: can't have what you just mentioned. You can't have another

981
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: boring performance and again it's hard to look good against

982
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: Phil Davis, but you can't have another performance in which

983
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: you lose a close decision and you say into the

984
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: microphone afterwards while I thought I won, and you have

985
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: hipster media guys like me going, hey, still don't think

986
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: I've ever seen Yoel lose at this level. I mean,

987
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: you have to change that narrative. And the way to

988
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: do that, Luke is to fight reckless and risky. And

989
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: the thing about Yoel at this age is, even though

990
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: he's a freak of nature and his body is a

991
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: wonderland and there's really no one else like him, it's

992
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: hard to fight five full minutes of every round at

993
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: that break neck pace. Now, he did it against Paulo

994
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: Costa on one of those just all time great put

995
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: it on fight pass and just let it roll fights.

996
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 2: Can he do that again? Can he be that fighter

997
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: at this level? Or either can he be an adjustment

998
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: to that due to age where he fights in quick bursts?

999
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: And then ask the rest, Luke, how do you see?

1000
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: How would you advise him if you're in your corner,

1001
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: because I just don't think he's gonna wrestle and take

1002
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: that chance of gassing out. He hasn't been a wrestler forever.

1003
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: In the MMA cage. He's a puncher, he's a counter striker.

1004
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: But you can't have another out of Soignia fight. You

1005
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: just can't have it. If you're Romero, you gotta win

1006
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: and you got to turn heads because you're either in

1007
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: this game to compete for the light heavyweight championship, which

1008
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: is why you entered that tournament or you're not. And

1009
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: the only way you're gonna beat nemcoff Rumble and all

1010
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: these bait or all these killers is by being that

1011
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: knockout threat.

1012
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: And also the other part about it is is for me,

1013
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: what I'm focusing on is like these weird confluence of

1014
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 3: pre fight events and like what happens to the Joel

1015
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: Romero hype and the belief he has in any kind

1016
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: of you know, medium term future if everything doesn't go

1017
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: his way, and versely if he's you mentioned, you know,

1018
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: Phil Davis is a hard guy to look good against.

1019
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: That's a fact.

1020
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: Let's say Romero does in fact look good against him

1021
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: and gets some kind of sensational win. Dude, he's on

1022
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: I mean, cloud number nine to the nth degree. He

1023
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: would be enormous, enormous for him. And I agree like

1024
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: the part about him being not being a wrestler, it's

1025
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: sort of true, It's mostly true, it's not entirely true, like,

1026
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: for example, he did wrestle to an extent Robert Whittaker.

1027
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 3: But like, dude, fucking Phil Davis is a lot bigger,

1028
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: probably a shitload stronger, probably as pure wrestling goes a

1029
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 3: lot better than Robert Whitaker. Maybe that's a little bit debatable,

1030
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: but at a bare minimum, dude, he's a huge person,

1031
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 3: well muscled. It's no joke. If you can have trouble,

1032
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 3: you know you can take Yo. Well's good at getting

1033
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: the takedown, but not good at keeping him there. How

1034
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: are you gonna do that with a guy like Phil

1035
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: fucking Davis? Like, good luck with that. So to me,

1036
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: I think you're right, PC, there is a fucking metric

1037
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: ton of pressure on you. Well, how good are you? Still?

1038
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: Can you be good against the world's best, which I

1039
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: still count Phil Davis in, even if he's not necessarily

1040
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 3: the world's most exciting fighter on a main event up

1041
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: a weight class. That's the one thing here that I

1042
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: still think has got his benefit. He might be able

1043
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: to do a little bit more BC and give a

1044
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: little bit more because he's not cutting so much to

1045
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: get down to one in five. He's gonna stay at

1046
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: two a five where he is just as strong as

1047
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: he needs to be, but not as drain. But to

1048
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: your point, dude, the onus is gonna be who is

1049
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: the responsibility on to make this fight something other than

1050
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: what it's You know what inertia would would ordinarily take it.

1051
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: It's on Yoel.

1052
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: It's on Yoel because if Phil wants to sit behind

1053
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 3: the jab and the cross and l step his way

1054
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: around the whole time, he will and he will.

1055
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: Win doing it's on Yoel.

1056
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: This is what happens. So two bad things happen to

1057
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: old fighters, Luke. One, their chin goes, and that's just

1058
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: the deal, right, Your reflex is slow, and your chin goes,

1059
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: and your punch resistance goes. You all's not there yet.

1060
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: The other thing that goes is the failure to launch.

1061
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: Now it's Woodley's failure to launch to close his UF.

1062
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: Secret was a little bit different. It seemed to be

1063
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: there was more mind mental blows. Yowell has a failure

1064
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: to launch at times because sometimes you get too selective

1065
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: in waiting for the perfect moment to open up that

1066
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: perfect counter strike opportunity when your opponent makes a mistake.

1067
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: But at the super super elite level, Luke, you're not

1068
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of those moments like Romero did

1069
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: to Wideman to shut off the lights, or even against

1070
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: rock Holed. So if you're gonna wait around for a

1071
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: guy like Phil Davis, it's just not gonna be there.

1072
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: He's more than willing to take you down the boring

1073
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: decision route. So I hope Yoel feels that understanding of

1074
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: pressure and knows that what is there for him by

1075
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: looking good and Luke you can argue just the same

1076
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: here he could lose but look really good and exciting

1077
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 2: and still benefit from this in terms of future opportunities.

1078
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: Yes, in fact, there's a way to win nobly and

1079
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 3: then just blame Phil for however much you can blame

1080
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 3: him if the fight doesn't go his way and oh

1081
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: he he was protecting himself and he wasn't doing this,

1082
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: that and the other. There is a way, I just

1083
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: mean for for Ah. I think this is like a

1084
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: real crossroads fight for you, l Romeo. It doesn't necessarily

1085
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: have to be, but there are ways in which it

1086
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: very much could be, both depending on how he performs,

1087
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: what the outcome is, and what it says that he's

1088
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: been noticeably absent for a guy who is very much

1089
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: the life of the party.

1090
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: That stands out to me. I think it matters. How

1091
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: it matters and what ways.

1092
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: We won't know until Saturday, but it's definitely on the

1093
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: front of my mind.

1094
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: Is part of you hoping that you know, Phil Davis

1095
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: slips on the banana peel and we get like Yoel

1096
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: versus Melvin Manhoof and it's just buckle up, Lucas part

1097
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: of you hoping for that, I hope not well.

1098
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: I mean here, this is what I mean. Here is

1099
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: the benefit of fighting a guy like Phil. It's that

1100
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: if you beat him, dude, no one can take that

1101
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: from you. Phil, for whatever else you want to say

1102
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 3: about him, is a physical specimen. He has not taken

1103
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: a ton of damage. He is well trained, he is

1104
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: very experienced. At this point, he's one of the best

1105
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: in the world. If you can beat him, dude, you

1106
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: are capable of doing ma any many incredible things, And

1107
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: I think the future would be as bright, you know,

1108
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: as it possibly could be given the circumstances.

1109
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: The problem this way, I ask you about it on Monday.

1110
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: The problem with this booking to me this is I'm.

1111
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: Not gonna say it's up there with Fader versus Tim

1112
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: Johnson in terms of head scratching. I don't think it's that,

1113
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: but it is a real risk because you could also

1114
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: have a situation right equally possible, least in theory where

1115
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 3: Yuell goes out there can't do shit to a guy

1116
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: who's very hard to do anything against, throws his hands

1117
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 3: up in frustration. The fans get bored and they say, wow,

1118
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: here's another fight that didn't necessarily have to be this

1119
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 3: way that Baltore booked. And now you've kind of soured

1120
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: the beginning of the run for jol Romero when he's

1121
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 3: already out of the tournament.

1122
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Why did you give him a guy.

1123
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: Who was a dark horse to win it, who, by

1124
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: the way, is kind of boring. There's a lot of

1125
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: ways this could blow up in everyone's face too, and

1126
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: I think we all have to recognize that that's.

1127
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: The rich reward. I mean, the reward you come out

1128
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: there and you look fantastic, you might get a title shot.

1129
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: Now that title shot have to wait. We're gonna see

1130
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: the semi finals of this tournament on October sixteenth, We're

1131
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: gonna see the finals probably first quarter, right or you know,

1132
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: of of the next year. But you go out there

1133
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: and finish Phil Davis, you're probably gonna get that title shot.

1134
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: So risk no.

1135
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: One's talking about it. Big fucking steaks on Saturday. Big Yeah.

1136
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to topic number four if we can.

1137
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: Last night was a Tuesdanight Contender series. By the way,

1138
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: Lord Sanko, Michael Bisping and Dan Helly great trio did

1139
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 3: a great job with it. They have a new ring announcer,

1140
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 3: Justin I forget his last name, but he did a

1141
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: great job as well. They finally made Laura and I

1142
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: have to do all the roles there.

1143
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: BC.

1144
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 3: There's a lot of names we could go through here.

1145
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to go through all

1146
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 3: of them. I certainly don't, but there were a couple

1147
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: that stood out to me that were just unbelievable for me.

1148
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: Like the star of the show last night. How about

1149
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: this kid, Albert Deriah de Reev. Oh my god, dude,

1150
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 3: here was the guy. They explained basically, he's been UFC

1151
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: ready for years. He had a contract dispute with ACB

1152
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: slash ACA, there was the pandemic. He's just been on

1153
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: ice for a while. This guy has been UFC ready

1154
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 3: quite literally four years. He took Bettencourt to the effing

1155
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: woodshed and did it with ease in every position.

1156
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: And then BC, you.

1157
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 3: Heard it called out out a signia called out or

1158
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: not excuse me or maybe out a sign I forget any.

1159
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: Time he called out Vittori, Cannoneer. He basically called out

1160
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: all the heavy hitters, and he trains with Sean Strickland,

1161
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 2: so he's more than ready for for that type of smoke.

1162
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: But I mean he's asking for all the smoke. Look,

1163
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: he's he's asking for Stack five, Jerry Stackhouse, your boy

1164
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: over there who plays the basketball. He's asking for that

1165
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: level of smoke.

1166
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: All right, how was he your top star standout last night?

1167
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: No, the main the guy in the main event from

1168
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: brazila light heavyweight. I'm gonna be Almeida. It's you know,

1169
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: the name is spelled Jayltin, but what is it Heilton?

1170
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know I'm gonna butcher this Luke.

1171
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: Right, you Knowlton? Yeah, Naldo.

1172
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: Look, Almeida comes in there and he's going up there

1173
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: against Nostrow didn nos Radinoff who It was interesting how

1174
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: they set up the video package just to open up

1175
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: this was gonna be the feature fight the main event. Yeah,

1176
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: you had al the Brazilian saying, I'm the guy who

1177
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: fights the he Beab style. If I need to, I

1178
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: can do everything, and Nosterdenoff going, bro, I'm from the

1179
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 2: smesh factory. You're gonna get this, No, Luke, the Brazilian

1180
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: Almeida made this fight eac Luke. Did you see that

1181
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: double leg that he shot right in the beginning. It

1182
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: was sort of next level. His body's ready, mindset wise,

1183
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: he seems to be ready and his technique to be

1184
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: able to scramble out of these positions. He got hit

1185
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: with some hard punches here from Nosterdenof, but was always

1186
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: able to flip the script back and then got that

1187
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 2: second round takedown takes the back. You see the choke

1188
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: right there. Look, this was dominant. I think, Look, this

1189
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: is a six fight card. Dana gave out five contracts

1190
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: afterwards to five of the six winners. We'll get to

1191
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 2: a second and the guy who didn't get the contract.

1192
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: But I thought Almida was the one who looked most

1193
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: UFC ready today and looked the most dominant, and there

1194
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: was an emotional reaction from him. Luke, this was leveling

1195
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: up where I'm like, put him on a card tomorrow.

1196
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm ready for this.

1197
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: He was.

1198
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: His muscular chure was dare I say, Joel Romero, like,

1199
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I could not believe how fucking I mean,

1200
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: look at this dude. He is out of control. Muscular,

1201
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: and to your point, he made smart decisions. He wasn't

1202
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: just a built guy who like, oh it looks good

1203
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: on a poster.

1204
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: No, no, he uses all of that very, very effectively. I agree.

1205
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: I had derayav as my number one and then Almeida

1206
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: as my number two, but I can't really argue with it.

1207
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: Almeida.

1208
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 2: The key is you're in there against a wrestler who's

1209
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: coming in known for that wrestling, telling you what he's

1210
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: gonna do. Yet you're the one with the creative trips

1211
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: to constantly take him down, and anytime his opponent got

1212
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: the better position, it was like Almeida instantly could reverse it.

1213
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: This guy is a thinker in there, Luke. You know,

1214
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: and it looks great in a speedo. I'm sure even

1215
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: you know that's a cup of tea.

1216
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: But he's a beast.

1217
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: Look. I wanted to hit that, Kole mean because the

1218
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 2: only guy that didn't get the contract you could argue

1219
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: coming in had the best record and reputation and so

1220
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: of prospect status, and that was the bantamweight Moe Miller.

1221
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: He gets a three round unanimous decision over a tough

1222
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: Brandon Lewis. Luke, I feel like Dana and Company may

1223
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: have earned unless they're trying to send a message to

1224
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: Moe Miller, as they tend to do on this series.

1225
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: Brendan Locknan anyone that if you're not going for the

1226
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: finish twenty four to seven reckless video game spas style,

1227
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 2: we don't want you. I don't think Miller fought overly safe.

1228
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: I thought he just was effective in control the action

1229
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: on the ground, had that advantage, stuck with it, was

1230
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: professional in getting the win, talked a good game afterwards,

1231
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: said I can do better, but I knew I had

1232
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: the control to see him not get the contract when

1233
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: they threw a contract at that heavyweight winner, Luke Ebreski.

1234
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 2: I don't know if he sleeps with the fishes, Luke,

1235
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 2: but this guy looked okay.

1236
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: You didn't even look like the body of a heady

1237
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: Oh he was, Yeah, I agree with you. He didn't

1238
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: look okay.

1239
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 3: Let me let me pitch you what I think they

1240
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: were thinking about Moe Miller. See what you think about this.

1241
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: I think part of it was that it wasn't as

1242
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: dominant as you might have imagined it to be. Reputationally.

1243
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: This guy came in with a big reputation all American.

1244
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: He was obviously stupid athletic, I mean crazy athletic ability.

1245
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: But and I will say Brandon Lewis, you know, fighting

1246
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: from guard underneath, constantly going for triangles, constantly put in

1247
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: the feet and the hips.

1248
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: He didn't make it easy.

1249
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: But the takeaway that I had was one, there wasn't

1250
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: necessarily that ability to go to a final gear to

1251
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: really push the fight to finishing territory. And two it

1252
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 3: probably came from the fact that he's still a little green,

1253
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: still a little green, very very good. If you put

1254
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: him in the UFCBC, could he win fights, Yes, But

1255
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: if you waited a little bit longer and he seasoned

1256
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 3: up a little bit more, how much further could he

1257
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 3: go by that point if he then went into the

1258
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 3: UFC My hunches, it's the combination of the two that's fair.

1259
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 2: That is fair, And maybe it plays into that Gable

1260
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 2: Stephen's in conversation we had the other day where Dana

1261
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: is like, if we don't think you're ready, And by

1262
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: the way, Gable talked to Ariel again and by the

1263
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: way said that he had made the decision as mind

1264
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: long before that that he was going back to school.

1265
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: So maybe there's something where the UFC sense that that

1266
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: he wasn't as serious as maybe he was putting out

1267
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: there publicly. But they'reof the idea that you know, when

1268
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: you're ready, that's one will sign you. Or if you

1269
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: fight like an animal will sign you today. Those are

1270
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: the two. That's the quickest way to day in his heart, Luke,

1271
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: we know that. And then, by the way, I forgot

1272
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: your boy Derayah, the guy you were the most impressed with.

1273
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: I did like afterwards. It's an overused play after you

1274
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: get the win to go up to the defence and

1275
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: talk to Dana. I mean it's basically like you have

1276
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: to do it now. But when he goes up there

1277
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: and is like, I smash all of them? Are you listening, Dana?

1278
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: Are you do you hear me? Dana? I smash everybody,

1279
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: I'm just like, fuck, hey, yeah, yeah right, bro? Like,

1280
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: do you think I could last an hour in the

1281
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: smash factory? I'm not even talking about on the match?

1282
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Why Why was der of Scottish with your accent?

1283
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: You know? I I do. I do have a Scottish

1284
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: last name. And when you take the French, Canadian, Lithuanian interests,

1285
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: it's a Smorgsborg of uh uh of love and art

1286
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: in there, Luke, But uh, I did like that power moved?

1287
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: Were you moved at all by Jack Della Maddelena. That's

1288
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: a mouthful mid fight, But here was a jacked welterweight

1289
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: with good tough boxing. That was a good ass win

1290
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: he had there against the sparring partner of Kamara Usman

1291
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: a few years back.

1292
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great fight, good testing ground. It

1293
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: went to the decision, but I thought obviously he got

1294
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: a little bit closer, but I think it was the

1295
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: second round. Almost got hit with the head and arm triangle,

1296
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: but but showed well rounded ability, constantly pursued the fight,

1297
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 3: good on the feet.

1298
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: That was the problem with moll Miller.

1299
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: It's like you could tell he was always looking for

1300
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: the takedown and wasn't really doing a lot on the

1301
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 3: feet to maybe advance his causes or as much as

1302
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: he could have.

1303
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: Not the case with Della Madlena. I mean he was

1304
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: out there going for it.

1305
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: And also Jasmine Jazz Davissias Harvey pronounce her name, she

1306
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 3: was about about it too. Uh, pretty god dam impressive

1307
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: the heavyweight one hold on hour into the show, we

1308
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: gotta keep this moving.

1309
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: She is a well I mean, I'm not going anywhere, Luke,

1310
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: you got what you gotta do.

1311
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: That's the problem. That's what he got.

1312
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: Another job.

1313
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, oh well, we're gonna move the

1314
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: shit along.

1315
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: I thought that that Polish checked put it on her

1316
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: a little bit in the third round. Look, I thought

1317
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: there was a couple of holes she showed, but she does.

1318
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: You know, she's late to the game at age thirty two,

1319
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: so that was interesting.

1320
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: Luke.

1321
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: Final bit on d WCS the show rules. I said

1322
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: it last week. From an entertainment standpoint, it's really fricking good,

1323
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: and I didn't expect it to be this good. From

1324
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: the video packages to the presentation, it's this is really

1325
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: good TV. I'm down. I'm down.

1326
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: I love it. I think they do a great job.

1327
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: I love how different it is, how similar it looks

1328
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: yet how different it feels.

1329
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: Everything about it's cool. The only thing I'd say.

1330
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: Is the Harvey pronounced his Polish kid's name, Rushchevski or

1331
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 3: whatever it was. He didn't actually get a tap they gave.

1332
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 3: They credited him with the third round your Naked choke.

1333
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: Dylan Potter didn't really tap, but he was well on

1334
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 3: his way to losing this fight. So it's like, it's

1335
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: unfortunate that it ended the way that it did.

1336
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: But but he fought a late minute replacement. He didn't

1337
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: look great. I don't even think he's physically a heavyweight.

1338
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: I think he's a life heavyweight. Look. I just it

1339
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: was baffling that he got the contract. He looked like

1340
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: like a homeless man's Yuri Prahotzka, right, I mean, it

1341
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: just had the tape east In feel of a killer.

1342
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: But I didn't see it. You know.

1343
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: My feeling was BC that they were grading him on

1344
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: a heavyweight curve. So take that for what it is.

1345
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: You know, you take that and rewind it back and

1346
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: get Moe Miller a contract. If I'm Bellatur pfl anybody,

1347
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: if I'm Shatri and John Nash is wondering where he

1348
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: got that four hundred million from, I'm calling Moe Miller tomorrow, all.

1349
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: Right, fair enough, all right, some quick hitters here before

1350
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: we call it a day. On this particular portion of

1351
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: the show, BC Yanblohovich says he would fight Yeri Prahatchka

1352
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: dot dot dot, but only in Europe, not in the

1353
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: United States. Quote Yahn said, to MMA fighting. Yeah, great

1354
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: run for him talking about Prahachka. He's a crazy fighter,

1355
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: but in a good way. Crazy wild style, but he

1356
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 3: knows how to use it. But I believe that I

1357
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: will fight Glover and then maybe covered to Shera, and

1358
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 3: then maybe in the future with Yuri I will fight,

1359
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: but somewhere in Europe. If I have to fight with Yuri,

1360
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 3: we have to do this in Poland or somewhere in

1361
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: Europe because all of Europe would like to come and

1362
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 3: see this fight live. I hope, I hope he's right,

1363
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 3: because that would be awesome.

1364
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: Be and it's it's not likely or or you know,

1365
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: maybe the maybe the compromises. Okay, we'll putting in London,

1366
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: but Luke, you know they don't like to do that.

1367
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: You know they'll put in anab Daby because the money

1368
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: is so good. They don't like to do that. It'd

1369
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: be great for the crowds. But I like that. I

1370
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: like I like a fighter push him back a little,

1371
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what their leverage is, what their

1372
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: value is. I mean, did you check Luke rock Hold

1373
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: with Ariel Luke and and how much he was just

1374
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: talking about venom and just kind of doing what fighters

1375
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: don't seem to do anymore, just run their mouth right

1376
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: about the way. Yeah. Oh he was like, he was like,

1377
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: you fool, can tell me. I gotta were there's these

1378
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: shorts has a snake face on it, Like what the fuck?

1379
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: He was just going off dropping f bump. It almost

1380
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: made him likable again, Luke.

1381
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure the UFC brass love that.

1382
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure that, you know. I'm sure nothing will change,

1383
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: right because it's just him and he's on his way

1384
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: out more or less. But uh, yeah, I didn't see

1385
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: that same Uh. I didn't see that same energy when

1386
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: the millionaire matchmaker called him, although I didn't see that

1387
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: same energy coming back, you know, fair when Patty was

1388
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: like listen, you player, right Patty Stanger, remember.

1389
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and called him a hatty Patati remember that?

1390
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, she got underneath the job on that one.

1391
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: BC Nate Diaz has responded to a call out from

1392
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: Vicente Luke. Now to the producers back.

1393
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: In the the.

1394
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 3: Orchids of Combat or whatever the hell we're calling that thing.

1395
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 3: You guys have this tweet right from Vicente Luke or

1396
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 3: the video anyway, where he mentions why he would be

1397
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: a great candidate for the Nate Dia sweepsticks and as

1398
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: they pulled us up, I will tell you BC, his

1399
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: logic to me is pretty unassailable. What he basically says is, yeah,

1400
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna win this like talking. I don't think

1401
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 3: I'm that guy. But if you want an action fight,

1402
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: I'll be your huckleberry. Do we have that or no?

1403
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: Sound?

1404
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 4: Nate is a fighter, a fighter's fight, and I'm the

1405
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 4: kind of fighter that man. I'm gonna put on an

1406
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 4: exciting fight no matter who it is. So Nate wants

1407
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 4: a big fight, I'm not gonna sell it by talking,

1408
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 4: but I'm definitely gonna sell it by fighting. He knows

1409
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 4: and everybody knows. I'm gonna step in there and I'm

1410
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 4: gonna try to take his head off. Even if he

1411
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 4: tries to take my head off, I'm gonna keep him pushing.

1412
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 4: So if the UFC wants an exciting fight, if Nate

1413
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 4: wants to be in an exciting fight, I'm the name.

1414
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 4: I'm the guy, you know, and I'm with.

1415
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: BC. Is he is he in any way, shape or

1416
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: for him? Wrong? Doesn't seem like he is to me?

1417
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: No, No, he's not wrong. I just don't know what

1418
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 2: what Nate gets from this fight and why he so well?

1419
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: Is your theory linked to the idea that Nate has

1420
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: what are we hearing two or three fights left on

1421
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 2: the deal and Nate's deal could be that Nate's just like,

1422
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: let me do this deal as quick as I possibly

1423
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: can so I can get get that boxing money. Is

1424
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: that your thoughts on this and let me at least

1425
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: put myself in there with bangers so I'm not gonna

1426
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 2: get you know, I don't know.

1427
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: Could be part of it, but to me, it says

1428
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: a lot that one he's not calling out a lightweight

1429
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 3: opponent or not calling out, but he's not entertaining it

1430
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 3: seems a light weight opponent. He's entertaining a welterweight opponent.

1431
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: And we went over this, We're like, why the hell

1432
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 3: is he fighting Leon Edwards and blah blah blah. Well,

1433
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: his team basically this is an oversimplification, but I think

1434
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people on his team that felt like,

1435
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: if you're gonna fight it at welterweight and you can

1436
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 3: get a win over Leon Edwards, which at least in

1437
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 3: theory was winnable on some level, that would put you

1438
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 3: right for the title swoop stakes or at the very

1439
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 3: very front of the pack. I think they're trying to

1440
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 3: go back to the well again. On that same logic,

1441
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: Vicente Luke, I think he's going to do bad things

1442
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: to Nate Diz personally. But if you had to pick

1443
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 3: someone in that top five space, probably the best you

1444
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: could come up with for Nate Diz having a chance

1445
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 3: is against Vicente Luke because while he dishes out punishment BC,

1446
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 3: he does tend to take some and we know how

1447
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: durable and whatnots can be.

1448
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like Nate's best. Do you

1449
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: know how many fights he has left? You actually know?

1450
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1451
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: I wish we had. I wish this was all public

1452
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: info at all times. It would really help, you know,

1453
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 2: being a pundit and breaking the shit down. But you

1454
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: do hear that it's up next year, So I wonder

1455
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: if you know he's thinking, Okay, my big money fight

1456
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: is the trilogy with Connor, So let me stay busy

1457
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: against bangers, let me try to stay active, let me

1458
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: get out of this deal and put the leverage back

1459
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,959
Speaker 2: in my situation, and maybe he gets that Connor comeback fight,

1460
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: you know, in early next year, and and I would

1461
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: like to see late thirties Nate with a little more

1462
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: leverage and whether it's getting a Jake Paul or whether

1463
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: it's something different. Luke, I'd like to see what he

1464
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: can do with that, because I don't think that, I

1465
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: mean outside the Connor trilogy. I don't know, Luke. I

1466
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: don't see the I don't see the Pourrier title fight

1467
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: for Nate at one fifty five happening.

1468
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 3: Also, just go to your head, wins b See, I

1469
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 3: think you've cut me off every single sentence today. Who

1470
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: do you favor in a Nate Diaz versus we sent

1471
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: a Luk fight.

1472
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: You gotta favor Luk at this size. But to your point,

1473
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: he is a little bit one note in that he's

1474
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: he's coming forward, He's coming at you. So if you're

1475
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: Nate and you're gonna try to take this guy into

1476
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: deep waters and see if he's a real or like,

1477
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: if he's really about that, you know, we know he's

1478
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: you know he's coming at you. But but but Canny,

1479
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: can he take the this level of give and take?

1480
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 2: This will win it. Nate can win this fight. But

1481
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: I think any elite guy would be hard to fade

1482
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: and it'd be hard to favor Nate over any elite

1483
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: at lightweight or we elsway at this point, Luke, you

1484
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: can give him the veteran soldier respect as the B

1485
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: side in any of them, but it really would be

1486
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: hard to.

1487
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: Favor I think that's right, all right, BC.

1488
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: Do you care Luke about Tayo Feima Lopez Junior that

1489
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 2: last Friday's ESPN card, he said, after this Camboso's fight,

1490
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: which is Monday, October fourth, And by the way, Trailer

1491
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: raised their pay per view price from twenty dollars now

1492
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: to fifty dollars for that. Luke and Trailler also, you

1493
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: sent me the leak to the Kevin Ioli column. Trailer's

1494
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: got a new uh what's a guy's name, Thurston Meyer

1495
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: or something like that, guys respected in boxing circles. He's

1496
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 2: like their new matchmaker, he says. Triller now looking to

1497
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: get out of the exhibition old guy business and go

1498
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 2: good fights only. We'll see if that happens. But Tao says,

1499
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm done at one thirty five. I don't need to

1500
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: offer Loma Chenko a rematch. It does nothing for me,

1501
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 2: you know. I want to move up to one forty

1502
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: and fight Josh Taylor for all four belts. So while

1503
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: I think we liked the latter half of that equation,

1504
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: if that's what Tao feels, Luke, I don't like the

1505
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 2: specific quotes he gave the ESPN broadcast where he said

1506
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: I did everything at one thirty five, Luke, I hate

1507
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: calling out Tail because you know I love this guy

1508
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: and I've been interviewing him since like day one, before

1509
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: day one, ish, dude, all the young stars right now

1510
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: are at lightweight. I'm not saying the fights are easy

1511
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: to make. You did everything. You didn't fight Jervonte, you

1512
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: didn't fight Ryan Garcia, you didn't fight Devin Haney. So

1513
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: like you beat Lomachenko in a great fight, but a

1514
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: close fight. It just so happened that Loma had all

1515
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: the belts, not counting Devin Haney's WBC, all the Shenanigans

1516
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: with a super champion. I don't like that statement. I

1517
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: don't know if this is money and coolness in public,

1518
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: leveraging in the public, negotiation and swagger, but come on, Tayo,

1519
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: get back on the right side of the war here right.

1520
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 3: The one thing I would say is when he says

1521
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 3: if he lost to Loma, Chenko, he would not be

1522
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: afforded a rematch. That sounds right to me.

1523
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: No, I don't know.

1524
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: He's a growing brand for top rank, you know. I

1525
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: think if he had lost to Lomachenko on that first fight,

1526
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: you know, and looked good in defeat, I think they'd

1527
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: go out of their way to push Lomo back into it.

1528
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 2: And if Loma had beat him, unless it was a

1529
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: situation where Loma beat him by the skin of his teeth,

1530
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: you know, after multiple knockdowns, you would think Loma would

1531
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: look around and say, that's probably my biggest money fight

1532
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 2: in terms of what's easiest to make in house, I

1533
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: think he would have gotten it. I don't like this

1534
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 2: stance so much, you know what I'm saying. It's one

1535
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: thing to say on the A side against all these

1536
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,879
Speaker 2: other guys. You want to do that posturing, that's fine,

1537
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: But to just be like, oh, I've already accomplished everything here.

1538
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm moving up.

1539
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 3: Not Yeah, that's wrong, that's objectively not true, right, So

1540
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: fair enough, okay, sir.

1541
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: All right, It's been a long time since we've rock

1542
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 2: and rolled. But you know the premise. Some Wednesdays we

1543
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: do this. Sometimes Luke doesn't want to answer certain questions,

1544
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: but he doesn't want certain topics in the runtown because

1545
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 2: he's in Old Baitch. But Luke, We've created a segment

1546
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,520
Speaker 2: in which I have a wheel and I've got ten categories,

1547
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 2: and it's five spins, five good faith responses to decently

1548
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: faith questions. We call this the wheel of death, Wheel

1549
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: of d bags. Yes, Luke, is time to spin the

1550
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: black circle. Are you ready for your ten categories?

1551
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, really there's like five categories since the other

1552
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: ones are just made up and I never get to

1553
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: go to them.

1554
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 2: But look, you get what you get if you land

1555
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 2: on them, you get them. Okay, there's no there's no

1556
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: bait and switch here, there's no three card Monty. I

1557
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: got ten ready for you. Here's your categories this week.

1558
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 2: Swipe right for strawetes. You know i'd like to You're

1559
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 2: in luck.

1560
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 5: Heels for fields, PF Chang af Oh God, taller than Rogan,

1561
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 5: Crosby stills in bde Happa's prenup, my favorite Olsen Twin,

1562
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 5: TRT Lorenzo Style and finally, Luke Libbyan Nationalists and no

1563
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about CBS Sports HQ's Jakeem Dirmish Luke,

1564
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 5: the first Libyan born North African to ever host Sports center,

1565
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 5: by the.

1566
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: Way, just just adds up on that.

1567
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: Little history maker right there. Good to know, all.

1568
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: Right, spin that shit. Look, let's do this. We're back.

1569
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: We're back, baby.

1570
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: This is gonna suck.

1571
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for you, Yeah.

1572
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: Of course. I mean, let me guess some dumb ass

1573
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 1: question about Ariel you want me to answer?

1574
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, what does heels for fields have anything to

1575
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 2: do with Ariel?

1576
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: Luke the Disney calling himself heel wanting or something like.

1577
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: That, Oh he is. You're right, you're right, all right, Well,

1578
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: let's see what we got here. I'll tell you straight up, Luke,

1579
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: you're not gonna like this question, mostly because you hate

1580
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: pro wrestling, and whether it's surprising to you or not,

1581
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: I respect that, But every don't you because every five

1582
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 2: years or so, I too end up hating pro wrestling

1583
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 2: and I go away for a little bit and then

1584
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: it pulls me back in because I'm infected with the drug. Luke, Okay,

1585
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 2: but let's get back to it. But to act like

1586
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 2: there isn't a shit ton of WWE and pro wrestling

1587
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: influence in the way Dana White and UFC have so

1588
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 2: brilliantly marketed and promoted MMA over the last twenty years,

1589
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: Luca would be a blatant lie. Correct, Yes, fans simply

1590
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: care more about fights when they have an emotional investment

1591
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 2: and a reason to watch. Sometimes the substance of that

1592
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 2: emotional investment can be secretly manufactured by creating a hero

1593
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: and a villain. Half the time, given human nature, those roles,

1594
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: though developed naturally. Other times Day nine Company, you know,

1595
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: they shape them based on if a fighter's marketable or not.

1596
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes fighters are savvy enough, Luke to play their own

1597
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 2: character and cultivate this, but either way it's there. It's

1598
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: pro wrestling one oh one, and everyone from Ali to

1599
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 2: Floyd to Connor and Brock have done so effectively playing

1600
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: the heel, which is a bad guy in pro wrestling,

1601
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: or playing the babyface the good guy. So, given that

1602
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 2: unavoidaboil reality, Luke name for me the top five UFC

1603
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,799
Speaker 2: fighters who currently play the best role in modern MMA

1604
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 2: of both the good guy the babyface and the bad

1605
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: guy the heel, in how they carry themselves, how they

1606
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: self promote themselves, in how they are presented, in terms

1607
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: of the fighter of fans clicking by on the pay

1608
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: per views, Luke, who are the best good guys and

1609
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 2: the best bad guys in M promotion today?

1610
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 3: Now, when you say good guys, help me understand something.

1611
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 3: There are guys who play the good guy role and

1612
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 3: people still don't care about them.

1613
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: And then there are guys who play the good guy

1614
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: role and because they play the good guy role in

1615
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: the way that they do that they sell more. Is

1616
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: that what that's the argument?

1617
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't have to. You could put good

1618
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: guys on there who don't sell. Basically, who's the best

1619
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 2: a play in the quote unquote wrestling good guy in

1620
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: terms of you know, in terms of promotion, and who's

1621
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: the best bad guys today?

1622
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: Good guys obviously gotta start with wonder boy. I think

1623
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 3: that's easy. I think over time it has become a

1624
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 3: case where Dustin Poirier would be one of your.

1625
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: Good guys call there.

1626
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, with all the charity stuff and the

1627
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 3: good fight foundation is being just so part of what

1628
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 3: he does and like, you know, making everything about character.

1629
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 3: That's a big one, you know, Valentina Shipchenko to an extent.

1630
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: I think, oh, I like that. Yes, Now, even though

1631
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 2: he's retired, would you say d C has has evolved

1632
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: from a heel at some at one point in his

1633
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: career to being one of the biggest babyfaces in this

1634
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: in this era.

1635
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 3: Same with Michael Bisping. Both of them went from a

1636
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 3: place where they were initially kind of despised to beloved.

1637
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 3: So I think that plays a role. So there's gonna

1638
01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 3: be some names on that side. I'm sure there's many

1639
01:13:59,439 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 3: more you could.

1640
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: Pay Steepey, bro steep Pey is the other answer.

1641
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 3: You, stevepe is a good, great answer, totally. On the

1642
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 3: other side, it's easy. I mean you could start with Colby.

1643
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 3: You could argue how effective it is, but it's just

1644
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 3: so obvious. Connor, I think, has moved into that role candidly.

1645
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,879
Speaker 3: Let's see who else John Jones for sure?

1646
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: Yes, Now, Luke, would you argue that both Diaz brothers

1647
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: are in that sort of stone cold gray area where

1648
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 2: they act like heels but they're praised as babyfaces.

1649
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 3: Yes, uh, ten thousand total anti heroes. I mean, you

1650
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 3: couldn't pick two better guys for that role. Trying to

1651
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 3: think who else has like really made themselves. I mean,

1652
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 3: Josh Koshtchik back in the day was was.

1653
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: Loathed to a pretty strong degree, Sean Strickland is trying

1654
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 2: to be a heel.

1655
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 3: Here, Sean Strickland's getting into that a little bit as well.

1656
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: Chail played both sides at times depending on who the

1657
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 3: audience was.

1658
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 2: Jouanna is a heel to the other girls, right, the

1659
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 2: other females.

1660
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, not so much to the fan base though,

1661
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: but yeah yeah, okay, yeah, See, Luke, that was.

1662
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: A pro wrestling question. That was painless, right.

1663
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 3: Painless is a strong word. The word painless is doing

1664
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:11,919
Speaker 3: a lot of work there in that sentence.

1665
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Luke. Well, hey, let's see what you get next.

1666
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 2: You get what you get? Spin number two coming your way. Jesus,

1667
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: Oh wow, look at the luck you got, Luke. This

1668
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: is what the people came to hear.

1669
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: Luke.

1670
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: Okay, PF chang as fuck. Here we go, Luke. I

1671
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: know two things about the last few weeks in MMA

1672
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: Media Wars. One, we all felt helpless watching the steady

1673
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: beef play out between Ariel Hawani and Brendan shab And two,

1674
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 2: it puts you personally in a precarious spot does because

1675
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 2: you are friends and sometimes colleagues with both, and fans

1676
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: expect you to pick a side and talk about it

1677
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: publicly and declare a winner. But that's just not your style. Again, Luke,

1678
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 2: I respect that, so I'm not gonna put you in

1679
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: that type of awkward position. But I will use this

1680
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 2: to transition to something we can't ignore. Whether it's your

1681
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: repairing your beef with independent Hiljuani or Brendan cooking up

1682
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: the sorelin for his own good MMA. Fans care about

1683
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: the soap opera side of this bullshit, and Luke, they

1684
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: care a lot. In fact, everything from your live chat

1685
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, to Ariel's retooled MMA hour,

1686
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 2: to Ariol's appearance on Pat McAfee's show, to even be

1687
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 2: below the bell. If you check the headlines, it seems

1688
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: like people have been capitalizing on this of late, this

1689
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: beef and people wanted to hear about it and putting

1690
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: it in the headlines and all these videos they're firing

1691
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 2: up right now. Okay, in the case of Ariel and Brendan,

1692
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: a ton of it is largely overblown, mostly because there's

1693
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: no payoff at the end of this program. It's great

1694
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: that they're going back and forth, Luke, but they ain't

1695
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 2: meeting in the octagon or inside a trailer boxing ring

1696
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,959
Speaker 2: any time soon to out of their grudge. But considering

1697
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,879
Speaker 2: how much people care, imagine a scenario in which Showtime

1698
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 2: Digital came to you and they said, look, we're going

1699
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: to be as shameless as anyone in this game. We

1700
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: want to take advantage of the clicks people care about

1701
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: journalist beefs or fighter in journalist beefs or promoter and

1702
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: journalists and fighter beefs. And they said, Luke, we need

1703
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: you to brainstorm ways in which these type of things

1704
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: can be monetized and publicized while also declaring a winner

1705
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: in the end. What's your incentive. We will double your

1706
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: salary for the remainder of your contract if you can

1707
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 2: help make this a winner. So, Luke, that seems to

1708
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 2: be enough to get you off of your soapbox. And

1709
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 2: let's say after a brainstorm session to create a name

1710
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: for this spinoff show, you and I decide it's going

1711
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: to be called Hot Beef Injection. Showtime also lets you

1712
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: know they have major sponsorships lined up, so everyone involved

1713
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 2: has a chance to benefit from this. So congratulate Luke.

1714
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 2: You're the executive producer of Hot Beef Injection and I'm

1715
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: the host, and we will both make twice the money

1716
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: we've been talking about, and whether it's merely a televised

1717
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: debate or some kind of crazy family double dare meets

1718
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: American Gladiators pitched to me a creative way in which

1719
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: peace of this kind involving journalists, promoters, or fighters can

1720
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: be settled that will satisfy the gossip loving fans who

1721
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 2: provide the big ratings and get us all filthy rich

1722
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:29,919
Speaker 2: without anyone getting physical.

1723
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know, and I don't care.

1724
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: Luke, they offered you a chance to double your salary.

1725
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: You're the executive producer of Hot.

1726
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 3: Beef First, Well, I'm not working on any show called

1727
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 3: Hot Beef Injection, okay number one?

1728
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 2: Are you? Luke? I bet you got a price for

1729
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: the million dollar man? Okay, I bet you do?

1730
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: All right, I probably do.

1731
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 3: It's not one that Showtime's gonna pay or CBS Sports

1732
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 3: is gonna pay, for sure, Dude. I don't give a

1733
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 3: fuck about any of this stuff. This stuff about like

1734
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 3: beefs and like using it.

1735
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: Dude.

1736
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 3: This is what I know. YouTube is built around this.

1737
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 3: For example, like all these fitness influencers like going after

1738
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 3: each other, like Vegan gains, goes after people all the

1739
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 3: time and vice versa, and then they have debates and

1740
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: they use it for like, you know, raising their profile. Dude,

1741
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not even interested in that even at all. Like,

1742
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 3: that's so not what I want to do with my life.

1743
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 3: I would fucking quit before I did anything like this,

1744
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 3: no change.

1745
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:20,799
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Luke, Let's say you couldn't.

1746
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

1747
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 2: Let's say let's say you had to pay the bills

1748
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 2: you you needed this money. Okay. Let's say you had

1749
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: a pending lawsuit and a big fine to pay for

1750
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 2: something back in the day that came to light. Okay, Okay, Okay, coach, Okay.

1751
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1752
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 3: I have I'd have Brendan and Ariel take turns farting

1753
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: in your seapat machine at night until you vomited in it.

1754
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, Luke.

1755
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 2: What would we do? How do we settle these beefs

1756
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: that can't be settled the old fashioned way, Luke.

1757
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: Fighting or fucking that's what we do. I don't know.

1758
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not answering this.

1759
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 3: I don't like you're asking me, like, you know, Luke,

1760
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 3: how many angels.

1761
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: Do fit on the head of a pin.

1762
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 3: I don't This is a nonsensical question that I couldn't

1763
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 3: possibly offer an answer to. I mean, bets, physical challenges,

1764
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 3: bang each other's wives.

1765
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, but

1766
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't care.

1767
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, So I guess this is a bad faith

1768
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 2: response to it, you know, a moderately faith question.

1769
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: It's not even moderately good faith. It's just idiotic.

1770
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: I think we're leaving money on the table. I mean,

1771
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: look at you got, you got hot ones the wing

1772
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: it in competition. That that's that's a great you know,

1773
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 2: we could do something in that vein if you want, Luke,

1774
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: we can get PA's Hot Sauce as a sponsor and

1775
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: make Ariel and Brendan just go wing for wing Bubba into.

1776
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 1: This and what and what does that settle?

1777
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: It gets clicks, Luke, that's the point. You want to

1778
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: double your salary or not?

1779
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't care about that.

1780
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: Cover you don't have a soul anymore. All right, All wow,

1781
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 2: that's a that's a punt, folks. Was it was for?

1782
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: Listen? Listen? Not every down is a touchdown. Sometimes just got.

1783
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 2: Nothing one on your side of the field too. But no,

1784
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 2: that's a punt.

1785
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: Okay, it seems more like third and thirty, and I

1786
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: just said, fuck it, let's go.

1787
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: Well, the people know the people. Let's see it. Look,

1788
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 2: maybe you'll give up the rest of these three spins.

1789
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: We'll see what we got here.

1790
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: God, that question was so long.

1791
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: It was so good though, right it really made you think?

1792
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: Not really?

1793
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 2: Oh? Hey, al right, hey, Luke. From Cream to Blind Faith,

1794
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 2: csn Y and the Traveling Willbury's to Monsters of Faith.

1795
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 3: Al Right, time out for just a second. Could my

1796
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 3: family talk louder during my show?

1797
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: I wonder people can't hear your neighbor doing the lawn, Luke,

1798
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 2: So no use getting so mad at him. He don't

1799
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 2: care about MK.

1800
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: All right, all right, glad. Sorry.

1801
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 2: You know, from Monsters of Folk to Audio Slave, Luke,

1802
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: I've always been obsessed by rock and roll supergroups, including

1803
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 2: everything from their chemistry, considering the alpha personalities merging together,

1804
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 2: to the content they create. In a sense, Luke, you

1805
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 2: can argue that you and I at MK are a

1806
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 2: supergroup of combat sports personalities who are paired together for

1807
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: this experiment, and right now it's working. We'll see if

1808
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: it last after today, though, Even though I've always been

1809
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: up front that I secretly pushed the show toward being

1810
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 2: more sitcom than fight talk show. I've also at times

1811
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: thought of us in terms of being an actual rock band.

1812
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: The live shows we do three times a week are

1813
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: like our concerts, Luke. The few times a year that

1814
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: we travel on location and do live shows in front

1815
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 2: of the people, that's like headlining a festival. And the

1816
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 2: documentaries we put out quarterly, they're the closest thing to

1817
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: a new album, Luke. You get what I'm saying here.

1818
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 2: So using that as a reference point, by imagining for

1819
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 2: a minute that MK is not a show, it's a band,

1820
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: answer these questions the best you can to make the

1821
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: comparison work. Question one, Luke, which instruments would each of

1822
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: us and the various members of our extended MK team

1823
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: play in this band? Based on our styles and personalities?

1824
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: So what would I play? What would you play? Who

1825
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: else is in the band?

1826
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 2: You know we got Gaff and Jay Aaron, you know

1827
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 2: we got Munich, we got all right so showtimes our

1828
01:22:58,640 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 2: record label.

1829
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, I'd play bass, for sure.

1830
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 2: Okay, but look are we are? We We're probably co songwriters, right,

1831
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: We're like Lennon McCartney of this.

1832
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably fine.

1833
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 2: You're gonna be a you're gonna be bass, you.

1834
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 3: Know, a little more like Flee where it's up front

1835
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 3: and you know the bass plays a prominent role. But yeah, bass,

1836
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 3: I think you're probably playing the cow bell.

1837
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean on the front.

1838
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: Look, first of all, in the front man, let's be honest.

1839
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: You're definitely not the front.

1840
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 2: I mean you could be Eddie van Halen or or

1841
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: you know, whomever you want. But I'll be I was

1842
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 2: gonna give you.

1843
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna give you lead guitar. That's what I

1844
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: was gonna give you.

1845
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: Like a guy on the Jams, I'll take that ship, Luke.

1846
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So you see I'm being fair. I'm

1847
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 3: being fair. Drums not Jay, because he would just miss

1848
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 3: it and then blame everybody.

1849
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: I could see Gaff. I could see Gaff just.

1850
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 1: You know Gaff on drums works. Uh.

1851
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 3: Corey would be on like, you know, keyboard. I feel

1852
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: like he's got keyboard in him.

1853
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: You know, he'd be doing our soul full ballads for

1854
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 2: the teens. Yeah, they'd be loving that ship. They'd be

1855
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 2: getting sappy and.

1856
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: Uh, what's Matt Snyder doing.

1857
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: He's our he's our manager, right, he's the guy like

1858
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: he's he's Tom Hanks from that thing you do? Right?

1859
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?

1860
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: And what is and Jay is our? What is Ja?

1861
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: Our groupie?

1862
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: So is Jay? Is Jay gonna be a like our

1863
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 2: alternate singer, like our rhythm guitarist slash sometimes singer? Or

1864
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: is he like you, dude.

1865
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: He's the roadie who just hauls the boxes?

1866
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, question too, Luke. How would we collectively dressed

1867
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 2: on stage? What would be our image?

1868
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

1869
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 3: You would wear something where your crotch would be set

1870
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 3: on fire on purpose. Who was the guy who had

1871
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 3: like the buzzsaw cup on his crotch?

1872
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? It was like somebody from Kiss

1873
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:50,440
Speaker 1: or something.

1874
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: Probably, oh who had like the sparklers come out of

1875
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: their dong?

1876
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1877
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's you. That's you, because you

1878
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: can't go five seconds without being like dick and balls.

1879
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: Be wearing a metal shirt with your giant ass evil bass,

1880
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: like the black one with the devil horns on the bottom.

1881
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: Yet, and the bass itself would also look fucking cool

1882
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 1: as shit.

1883
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what style of music would

1884
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: be though, Luke, we'd have to be some type of.

1885
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: Nineties rock.

1886
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll do I'll do all rock, I'll do hard

1887
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: on old rock.

1888
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 3: Is that what you I feel like you could bring

1889
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: in You could bring in a lot of other elements

1890
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:24,759
Speaker 3: with nineties rock. You can go a lot of different

1891
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: directions with it. And we can you know, we could

1892
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: play the levels.

1893
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 2: This is a heck of a supergroup. And Luke, what's

1894
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 2: our you know, cover of the rolling Stone moment? In

1895
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: terms of this show in real life?

1896
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: Have we hit it?

1897
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: You know? What's our sort of mountain top moment? Are

1898
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: we there yet? Have we yet to hit it yet?

1899
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: For this band we call Morning.

1900
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,839
Speaker 1: Coll Oh no, we're not even close.

1901
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: Okay, good because I was. You know, my final question

1902
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: was going to be how close are you to your

1903
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 2: first solo record and the inevitable breakup of the supergroup?

1904
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: Luke Cool, not close enough, but you know.

1905
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 2: Pretty close if you check your solo channel. Yeah, we're

1906
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: we're there. We're there, all right, Luke, another failed question?

1907
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 2: We got two more. Maybe we'll never see this segment again.

1908
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 2: You know, some of that's on me.

1909
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: A lot of that works in person. You should have

1910
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: saved it for next week. What are you gonna do?

1911
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 2: It's been two left, Luke.

1912
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: We'll see you at God's take it forever. So good though, right?

1913
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: So good? Yes?

1914
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, Look, the state of current PD use within

1915
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: combat sports is only made more difficult to understand by

1916
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Speaker 2: the frustrating state of drug testing, which spans the gamut

1917
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Speaker 2: of incomplete, incompetent, and even ignoramus. If you will, I'm

1918
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,759
Speaker 2: sure you will. The users and designers are often smarter

1919
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Speaker 2: than the testers, and in many cases, entire testing programs

1920
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 2: appear to be nothing more than insurance at best or

1921
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 2: window dressing at worst. It's theater of the highest and

1922
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 2: grossest regard. But what if I told you I've created

1923
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: a proprietary and sophisticated technology which allows you to simply

1924
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 2: scan my new ped radar gun in front of your

1925
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 2: TV screen during any fight of your choice, and it

1926
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 2: can list down to the type of sugar that was

1927
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 2: used in their coffee, exactly what's in their bloodstream at

1928
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: the time of the fight, and what remnants or picograms

1929
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 2: remain from what they use during training camp. So to

1930
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: satisfy your curiosity, Luke, regarding ped use, I will loan

1931
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 2: you this accurate yet potentially dangerous firearm. Maybe we can

1932
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 2: call it the love weapon. Shout out to that band

1933
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: that died and Luke. While watching any boxing or MMA

1934
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: fight of your choice throughout history, you can point the

1935
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: love weapon at the screen and get the truth. The

1936
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,520
Speaker 2: only catch is that, because the gun is potentially dangerous

1937
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:47,839
Speaker 2: and libel yet insanely accurate, you only get three polls

1938
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 2: of the trigger before it self destructs and erases all

1939
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 2: the results. Which three fights across boxing or MMA history

1940
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 2: would you be most interested in knowing the truth of

1941
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: exactly what, well what both fighters were on or weren't on.

1942
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 3: I'd be curious to go back to the UFC Golden age,

1943
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 3: so to speak, you know, post Tough, pre twenty ten,

1944
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: so like everything from After Tough to.

1945
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: UFC one hundred basically, So.

1946
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 2: Like for example, Anderson Silva versus Dan Henderson for the

1947
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: UFC middleweight title.

1948
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 3: Right, Or how about Saint Pierre versus Hughes two Right?

1949
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 3: There's another one where I would just love to know

1950
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 3: what the answer is there because I have a feeling

1951
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 3: that you know, who the hell knows what the truth is.

1952
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Speaker 1: To your point, I have.

1953
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: A feeling that most of what made the UFC Golden Age,

1954
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 3: not most of it, but a big part of it

1955
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 3: was that people who we lionized as heroes were probably

1956
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 3: on something the whole time. But of course I don't

1957
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 3: know that, and I cannot prove that, and of course

1958
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 3: it could be proof that, in fact, I'm totally wrong

1959
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 3: that my theory about the Golden Age is, you know,

1960
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 3: there might be some truth what happened in Pride and

1961
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 3: even UFC to a degree, but somewhat over state.

1962
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: So I go that direction. I do Lesnar versus Carwin.

1963
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 2: I think I can already give you the answers to that, Luke.

1964
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 1: It's curious to know, like exactly right. And then what's

1965
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: a what's a boxing match?

1966
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what one I'd like to see, because

1967
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 2: this is the first time where this is one of

1968
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:21,879
Speaker 2: the not the first, one of many times where Floyd

1969
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 2: just blew me away, thirty six year old Floyd against

1970
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: Canelo in twenty thirteen. I'd like to I'd just like

1971
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: to make sure.

1972
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Speaker 1: Luke, okay, sure, both of them? Sure you know that'd

1973
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: be cool. Yeah, that's a great call.

1974
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 2: I love that call, and it's while it's interesting, and

1975
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: I agree with you that you'd like to take it

1976
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 2: back in time. You'll get three three three polls of

1977
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: the love gun, by the way, But you know it's

1978
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 2: while I'd like to take it back in time and

1979
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 2: even go back to like the eighties and see, you know,

1980
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: are we are we naive to what was happening. I'd

1981
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: just as much like to do it today when there

1982
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: is so called established drug testing. And just be sure, Luke,

1983
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 2: that some of our suspensions are real.

1984
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 3: I just got a tweet from someone saying, please please

1985
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 3: end this now.

1986
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 2: Just Luke, it's probably one, you know, one odd ball fan.

1987
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 2: It's probably who is it, the the snarky ginger Luke.

1988
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: No, some dude named Dave.

1989
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 2: All right, Dave, well, Dave. We get one more okay.

1990
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: All right, one more spin?

1991
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 2: Oh boy. You know you try to do something nice

1992
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 2: for the community, you know, they try to improve the show,

1993
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 2: and this.

1994
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Would happen, all right, This ought to be terrible.

1995
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 2: No, Luke. Libyan nationalist is not a category about your

1996
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 2: dad's day job when you were a child. It's a

1997
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 2: reference to the men who provided the plutonium and back

1998
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: to the future with all which allowed Marty and Doc

1999
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: Brown to travel back to nineteen fifty five and change

2000
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 2: the course of history forever in the lives of them

2001
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: and everyone they know, by setting up a scenario in

2002
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 2: which George McFly could go from zero to hero by

2003
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 2: rescuing that drunk Fluozy Lorraine Baines from the arms of

2004
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: Biff Tan And we don't need a documentary from j

2005
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: Air And to know what happened next. In many ways, Luke,

2006
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: we all wish we could go back to the key

2007
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 2: moments in our past and maybe have said something or

2008
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: maybe had done something different that might make our life

2009
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:13,919
Speaker 2: today easier or in some cases wealthier. Luke, right, forget

2010
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 2: for a moment about Jay Aaron already mentioned that. Also

2011
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 2: forget that Michael J. Fox was like five foot three

2012
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 2: and never would had a chance at banging prime Elizabeth Shoe. Okay,

2013
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 2: that's a debate for another day. Of course, this question

2014
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 2: allows you a fictional chance to go back to one

2015
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 2: of three key points in your life, either the first

2016
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 2: day of your senior year in high school, the last

2017
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 2: day of your college life when you graduated, or the

2018
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: day you got married nine years ago today, offering in

2019
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 2: each case seven days of living in your old life,

2020
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: but with the knowledge you have today. In an attempt

2021
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 2: to hopefully change one aspect or situation in your life

2022
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 2: that would positively change the way you live today. Please

2023
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: keep in mind that every change has a ripple effect

2024
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,879
Speaker 2: that could be positive or negative, Luke, depending on how extreme.

2025
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 2: The only rules are that you couldn't use any of

2026
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: the knowledge to make any bets or stock plays.

2027
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 3: And at the end of the set, go back to

2028
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 3: the beginning of the show, and then take this segment out.

2029
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 2: And after the seven days, Luke, you'd return to your

2030
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 2: life now and all changes will have been retroactively done. Luke,

2031
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 2: which of those three moments would you travel back and

2032
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 2: what would you do in that week to change?

2033
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 3: Well, I probably do the beginning of senior year of

2034
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 3: high school, because if there's been one problem that plagued me,

2035
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 3: not anymore, but for a long time, it was my

2036
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 3: cutting of corners in life. So, for example, I ended

2037
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 3: up doing things that I wanted to buy and large,

2038
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 3: but I ended up having a much harder time getting

2039
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 3: there than it needed to be. Beca like for example,

2040
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 3: in high school, I decided, oh I don't I mean,

2041
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 3: I didn't have bad grades by any stretch of the imagination,

2042
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:07,759
Speaker 3: but I did not have exemplar regrades.

2043
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,600
Speaker 1: I just did not do homework and you know, just

2044
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: kind of winged it a.

2045
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 3: Lot, except when it came time for tests, and then

2046
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 3: I would do really really well on tests and be like, oh,

2047
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,520
Speaker 3: this should carry me through all of my various opportunities.

2048
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 3: But two things happened. One, there were some doors that

2049
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 3: were slammed in my face as a consequence of that

2050
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,600
Speaker 3: that I did not expect that ended up having a

2051
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 3: pretty profound effect.

2052
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 1: And the other part was it just it just it

2053
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: made me have.

2054
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 3: A lot of bad habits for a really long time,

2055
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 3: not even just about academic work, but about anything. Oh,

2056
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 3: I don't need to do X, because I can cut

2057
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 3: the corner with why I don't have to go and

2058
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 3: face this kind of a challenge because I can do

2059
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 3: something a little bit different and I can more or

2060
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 3: less get there and listen, we.

2061
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: All want to work smarter and not harder. That part

2062
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 1: is obvious.

2063
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 3: But there are some times in life when the way

2064
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 3: to fix a problem is not to go around or

2065
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 3: under or on top of the fire. It is to

2066
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 3: go right through it, and you have to kind of

2067
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,959
Speaker 3: face that reality a little bit. Depending on what the circumstance,

2068
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 3: maybe getting to go back to the beginning of senior

2069
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 3: year and understanding what may have been necessary for buckling

2070
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 3: down academically, and then putting all of those practices into

2071
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 3: play for the senior year through college through the beginning

2072
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 3: of my life after that. I wouldn't change any one thing,

2073
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna flip this knob or that one, but

2074
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 3: I really regret not getting a hold of that earlier

2075
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 3: in life.

2076
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 2: Look, that's the most boring answer. I'm exciting.

2077
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 1: It's actually something I think about all the time.

2078
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean, knobs, you had seven days to go back

2079
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 2: after thirty years of twenty five years of thinking about chicks.

2080
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 2: You could have banged that you that you were too

2081
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 2: afraid of, or you said the wrong thing, or you

2082
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 2: didn't realize at the time they were into you. I'm

2083
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 2: giving you a seven day haul pass at like age eighteen.

2084
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 2: You're like, well, I'd like to fix my study habits, Luke,

2085
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 2: this this segment can't work anymore because of you.

2086
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: Okay, dude, I mean yeah, I mean what you want

2087
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: me to be serious for a moment, I'll be serious

2088
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 1: for a moment, and I'm not doing a bit, are there? BC?

2089
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Are you asking me?

2090
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 3: Are there times in my life where I've been I

2091
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 3: mean fourth and inches, not even you know, like right

2092
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 3: there at the goal line and all I had to

2093
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 3: do was a quarterback sneak and I got stopped at

2094
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 3: the goal line because I fumbled.

2095
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:18,719
Speaker 1: Buddy, I can't tell you.

2096
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 3: How many times that has happened in ways that would

2097
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 3: be like comically embarrassed my numbing.

2098
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I've had my numbing.

2099
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 3: To the point where you would mercilessly mock me the

2100
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 3: rest of my life.

2101
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 2: I read zone offense Luke is Washington football team.

2102
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: It was the worst. It's the worst.

2103
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 3: But if you're if I'm being if I'm being serious

2104
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 3: with you and I'm honestly trying to you want a

2105
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 3: good faith answer, that is something that has haunted me

2106
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 3: a little bit, Like truly, I mean that it has

2107
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 3: haunted me that I like, doing homework is not about

2108
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 3: doing homework. It's about developing good practices in life that

2109
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 3: you can then apply to other things. And I was

2110
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 3: always mentally looking to cut corners until I learned that

2111
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 3: that's not the way to live. And dude, I lost

2112
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 3: out on a lot of shit that could have gone

2113
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 3: my way, and I really regret it. I really truly,

2114
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 3: meaningfully regret it, and I wish I could fix that.

2115
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 2: All right, that was decently good faith, Luke.

2116
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: Yea death.

2117
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 3: There are a couple of times where it was like

2118
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 3: a layup and I was just like, oh, I'm a

2119
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 3: fucking idiot.

2120
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Yes I have I mean a million of those.

2121
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, there you go. Well, Luke, we'll

2122
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 2: see what the people say. If if super Dave on

2123
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 2: Twitter thinks this segment sucks because you're uninterested, then you know,

2124
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: maybe it does, Luke.

2125
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Jason Hartley, Jason Hartley is a great man,

2126
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,560
Speaker 3: and he is from Emma on Point and he says, screw.

2127
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 1: That Dave guy. I enjoy the segment.

2128
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:36,879
Speaker 3: But then there's another guy, Admiral Anthony, who is waiting

2129
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 3: for you to finish this segment.

2130
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, maybe we'll get a show where

2131
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 2: it's just you know, a wheel of fans or something. Look,

2132
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Speaker 2: maybe we'll satisfy all those hey spook. Look, speaking of

2133
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 2: fans and art, right, have you heard anything about DOC

2134
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 2: five coming together? Because I've been in talks with less

2135
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 2: than Jay car documentarian and you and I could be

2136
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: seeing a rough draft of this DOC five by the

2137
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 2: end of this week, which means early next week Doc

2138
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 2: five is launched, is ready to launch.

2139
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 3: I've spent more time thinking about where I'm going to

2140
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 3: defecate after the show than I have Doc five.

2141
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 2: Luke, I've been told that this, uh, you know, this

2142
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 2: is our our most serious, introspective, hardest hitting doc.

2143
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 3: And how much of my personal life do you prostitute

2144
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 3: for clicks.

2145
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 2: I've been I've been made, I've been prepared to that.

2146
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 2: You know, this could get difficult for me watching it back,

2147
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 2: So we'll see what We'll see what they did with

2148
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:34,759
Speaker 2: those with that footage.

2149
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 1: There's a zinger I have in there that I'm gonna

2150
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,600
Speaker 1: bring you to your fucking knees with that one. I

2151
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 1: guarantee it. I guarantee it. Yeah, you'll see right.

2152
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,919
Speaker 2: That's that ship for this week. Morning Combat at gmail

2153
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 2: dot com of course, is your trusty. Please, folks, if

2154
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 2: you got fan subs, if you've got dead wrongs, don't

2155
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 2: don't DM me them, send them to this email address.

2156
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Mikey Morms will handle it efficiently. And uh uh, that's

2157
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 2: the email address to send your ship. And every Wednesday

2158
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 2: at this time we've got mail.

2159
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Let's do it as my daughter yells in the room.

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01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 2: Over all right, Dino, that's Luke's nickname, right, Dino E sliding.

2161
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. They used to call me that in

2162
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu. It's true.

2163
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 2: What's up? Bubba's Ben a fan since Luke was just

2164
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 2: a guest on the m m AB Anyway, the merch

2165
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 2: is some high quality stuff. I'm really picky about workout

2166
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 2: clothes and he's rocking a merch one point oh shirt.

2167
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 2: This is soft and comfortable, truly Negflick's merch. If you

2168
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 2: don't have them already, go buy some. And it helped me.

2169
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 2: Gooduch A pr snatch ax J keep up the good

2170
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 2: work on Morning Combat, Huge Brendan shop fan. This guy

2171
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 2: Dino Luke? How's his form? Can we blow this up? Please?

2172
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. I mean he's no Olympic lifter, but

2173
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: it's pretty good?

2174
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 2: Is it don junior level?

2175
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 1: Or is it that it's almost? No? No, no, no, no, dude.

2176
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,520
Speaker 3: The snatches maybe the most difficult lift from a technical perspective.

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01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 3: Let's see, does I can get a whole lot of

2178
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 3: contact with the hips to get under the bar.

2179
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 1: But done than that, it's pretty good. Pretty good?

2180
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 2: Look is it? Do you have to fear, honest question,

2181
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 2: do you have to fear shitting your pants on that

2182
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 2: movement when you when it when it all falls back

2183
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 2: on you and you're squeezing tight?

2184
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 3: Dude, I don't know who hurt you and damaged your

2185
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 3: brain to the point where it's only capable of processing

2186
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 3: life through dick and ball.

2187
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 2: And we're watching a We're watching a grown man do

2188
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: something called the snatch, and you're getting on me for

2189
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 2: asking a legitimate question.

2190
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,639
Speaker 1: Really is that a legitimate question? Hey? How many times

2191
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: you got a ship when you do this? That's is

2192
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: that your question?

2193
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 2: A twelve forty one? But at twelve forty six, it's

2194
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 2: gonna be like I gotta I gotta shit, guys, I

2195
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 2: gotta go, I gotta go.

2196
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, listen, you know you know how you

2197
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 3: avoid having to take a dump in the snatch?

2198
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 1: Just take it dumb before you work outs.

2199
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 2: You know how you avoid having to ruin our show

2200
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 2: by having to take a dump? Luke, take it dump

2201
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 2: right before nd all? Right, oh wait, you do that too?

2202
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 2: Great stuff? All right, Daniel case sliding And hey, fella

2203
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,719
Speaker 2: is my best budd in housemate Sean on the right

2204
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 2: and fellow Donk purchased possibly the greatest gift a man

2205
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 2: could want for my birthday. I just started a new

2206
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 2: job in insurance sales, so this mug will be my mecca.

2207
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 2: Amazing content and watching since the beat. Also I love

2208
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: Cannibal Corpse, so get your tits out for the lads,

2209
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 2: mister Thomas, love from Danny and sewn in Ireland. And ps,

2210
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 2: my dog Norman wanted in the picture. He wants some

2211
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 2: dog MK merch. Can we zoom in on these two

2212
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 2: heterosexual males here?

2213
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: Boy? I mean, look at these two apex predators.

2214
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 2: First of all, love the support. Is there they playing

2215
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 2: Fortnite in the back or is that they're a I don't.

2216
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,799
Speaker 3: Know, No, dude, are they watching fucking Darcy and Stacy

2217
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 3: on whatever?

2218
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: PARAMOUNTA not paramount? Is it paramount plus?

2219
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 2: I don't know each Can we go back into this.

2220
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 2: There's a lot to look at here from these guys.

2221
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 2: First of all, the guy on the left I think

2222
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 2: is Danny. Yes, he's the guy that sent it in Daniel.

2223
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 4: Kay.

2224
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 2: Look what do you think of his tat on his wrist? There?

2225
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,640
Speaker 3: Who is that hard to see? I can't really make

2226
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 3: much of it? Definitely wow, Look at this guy.

2227
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the beard right, that beard is solid.

2228
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 3: And the guy on the riot, I can't quite tell.

2229
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 3: This almost looks like a look like a Peruvian jersey

2230
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 3: or something.

2231
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I think.

2232
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: The guy on the right f's a little bit right,

2233
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,719
Speaker 2: probably a little bit. He's got like a Danny Sigura vibe,

2234
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 2: like he kind of cleans up, he's not full.

2235
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 3: So the guy on the left, if someone was like,

2236
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 3: what do you think if you could find a guy

2237
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 3: who's ever been arrested.

2238
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: For masturbating in an Rby's drive through, what would he

2239
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 1: look like?

2240
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, shout out to our boy Daniel. Love that

2241
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 2: dog by the way, Norman so big, big fan.

2242
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: And it looks like the guy on the right was

2243
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 1: like maybe his friend riding shotgun who was like trying

2244
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 1: to talk him out of it, but just went along

2245
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: with it.

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01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure Daniel might have set up the camera for

2247
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 2: Shawn there on his first sexual experience. It's possible, Look,

2248
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 2: it's possible.

2249
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 1: All right.

2250
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 3: Also, I gotta say, the lime green socks, We're all

2251
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 3: that dog is awesome. Let's just be honest about the dog.

2252
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 3: But the lime green socks, this is this is.

2253
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Automatic a woman and hasn't been here, so you know,

2254
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 1: like like nothing else is.

2255
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think poor Man's hone aldough over

2256
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 2: there get gets it done. I'm telling you, he's got

2257
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 2: that looking eyes, that unnatural confidence that only Latin men have, Luke,

2258
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 2: or Spanish men. Actually Spanish men have that. Yeah, Luke,

2259
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 2: let's keep it rolling. You could have had that, by

2260
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 2: the way, first day of high school if you took

2261
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 2: my plutonium and you know, I know, the good of

2262
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 2: the world. Ben s sliding and hey, fellas, you're packing

2263
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:31,560
Speaker 2: some serious heat here, Ben says, hopefully evolves.

2264
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 1: Into gay pornography.

2265
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 2: I don't understand, he says, hopefully this isn't too raunchy

2266
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 2: for the show. It's close. Look, it's pretty damn close. Okay,

2267
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 2: we do tip to tip on Fridays, not Wednesdays. Oh

2268
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 2: my god, dude, you.

2269
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: Are you are entirely responsible for this?

2270
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, if it was under the auspices of kickboxing,

2271
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 2: would you be okay with it?

2272
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 1: Luke? I don't know.

2273
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 2: These guys look like they're straight out of the YMCA. Look,

2274
01:42:58,880 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 2: this is uh, this is.

2275
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is fine, But I just don't understand how

2276
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 3: This became the symbol of the show, although we got

2277
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 3: some tight buns.

2278
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 2: Look at that, You're like, the trade off might be

2279
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 2: worth it. You know, it might be worth it, all right.

2280
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: This one's fe at cap underscore YouTube. Whatever that means, Hey,

2281
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:18,879
Speaker 2: fellas Day one MK listener.

2282
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 1: Here.

2283
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 2: My hobby is creating characters and video games. Last year

2284
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 2: I created Luken BC and UFC three on from EA Sports.

2285
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 2: This is the first pick for a refresher in what

2286
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 2: I did last year. BC acknowledged my creation of him

2287
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:34,719
Speaker 2: on Twitter. He also featured my LT creation on episode

2288
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 2: sixty nine of MK in a video where I matched

2289
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 2: him up versus Ariel Hawani Creative Fighter. I remember that, Luke,

2290
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 2: you knocked him out. I've got a fresh fan submission

2291
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 2: for you guys today. Seeing that BC is such a

2292
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 2: huge pro wrestling fan, I thought it would be fitting

2293
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 2: to insert him into that world. So here is my

2294
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 2: BC creator wrestler from WWEK twenty twenty two K twenty

2295
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 2: twenty complete with the MK themed a tire forever Luke.

2296
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 2: How good. It's not easy to do this on these

2297
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 2: video games to make it look good. How good is this, Luke?

2298
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 3: Everything is good except for your face, which looks like

2299
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 3: it's melting.

2300
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: Can we zoom in again? Please minute, just stay zoomed in, bro,

2301
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 2: we gotta check this out. So the crotch logo of

2302
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 2: the Rising Sun is brilliant.

2303
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 5: The on the elbow pads too, Yes, yes, the tip

2304
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 5: to correct me if I'm wrong.

2305
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 3: You see, but are you wearing weightlifting gloves? It looks

2306
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 3: like you are.

2307
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they got the build pretty much right

2308
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 2: on the frame, Luke, the shoulders and the chest in

2309
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 2: the back.

2310
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 1: No, I mean they did, they did, They did a little.

2311
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: They helped you out a little bit. It helped you

2312
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:39,759
Speaker 1: out a little bit. But it's okay.

2313
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 3: It actually, I think it's very well done, candidly on

2314
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 3: the Michaelangel and everything but the Sistine Chapel. But the face, man, dude,

2315
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 3: it looks like you got hit with a frying pan

2316
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 3: too many times.

2317
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 2: They did straighten my nose out. So shout out to

2318
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 2: that Luke. Good stuff right there. I don't know if

2319
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,840
Speaker 2: he's got the wandering uh low pan eye, but we'll see,

2320
01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 2: we'll see. Uh. This one's from Matthew. Am I crazy?

2321
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 2: Or did Luke poul a Dustin poier and make his

2322
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 2: own hot Sauce. Thanks for all you do. Matthew.

2323
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm being dead wrong live on air.

2324
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 3: Someone's telling me the guy with the jersey with they

2325
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 3: had the red stripper cross was a river Plate, which

2326
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 3: is one of the big teams out of Argentina them

2327
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 3: in Book of Juniors.

2328
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 2: Oh and that means that guy definitely definitely gets it done. Luke.

2329
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's play this made batches half Sauce. Who

2330
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 1: is Hoff?

2331
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, but that is somewhat pre gray, Luke

2332
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 2: Thomas right there.

2333
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:32,440
Speaker 1: Right a little bit. I look like Peter Parker's boss.

2334
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I would try that Hoff Sauce.

2335
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: Right, sure, right.

2336
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 2: Matthew said he hopes to see me tonight in Newark

2337
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 2: for aw Unfortunately I had to cancel. I won't be

2338
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 2: going there in the third row, Luke, I'm gonna be

2339
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 2: missing out.

2340
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:45,759
Speaker 1: Why why'd you cancel?

2341
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 2: I got a lot of family stuff at home. I

2342
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 2: got a lot of things I gotta I gotta take

2343
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 2: care of you, and I are going to be in

2344
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 2: Jersey City next week. Originally it was going to be

2345
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 2: this week, but uh, you know, a lot of good

2346
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 2: shit coming. So Matthew enjoyed the show, I'll be watching

2347
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 2: at home, believe that. All right, let's keep it going.

2348
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 2: This one's from Allen. What's going on? BC and lt

2349
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 2: J from Boston back for the fourth time this week.

2350
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm paying my respects to some of the funny shit

2351
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 2: you guys said last week. First we have the MK

2352
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 2: crew and the Rundown starring The Rock and Sean William Scott.

2353
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 2: Last week, when you both were talking about The Rock

2354
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 2: and Gable transitioning from WW to other ventues ventures, Luke

2355
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 2: then brought up Rundown and how we thought it actually

2356
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 2: wasn't that bad. I put lt as the Rock because

2357
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 2: he's been hitting the waits hard.

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01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: BC.

2359
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 2: On the other hand, a cardio boxing class a couple

2360
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 2: of times a week couldn't hurt.

2361
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 3: Wow, that's not true. BC, you've been I feel like

2362
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 3: BC's been. You know, You've been doing hard work that

2363
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 3: no one sees.

2364
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going as hard as I did the

2365
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 2: first month, but I'm doing I'm doing the slow and

2366
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 2: steady thing.

2367
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get on steroids.

2368
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 3: Honestly, I really I'll tell you that because listen, man,

2369
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 3: I have been absolutely I'm having a moment of frustration

2370
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 3: if I can be honest with you. I have been

2371
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 3: fucking murdering myself in the gym, and I'm trying to

2372
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 3: get as much recovery and everything as possible. The amount

2373
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 3: of work I've put in. If I was twenty years ago,

2374
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 3: i'd be fucking bricked up by now, and at forty two,

2375
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 3: people can't even tell that I fucking go to the gym.

2376
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 3: It's the most frustrating shit.

2377
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: You need a Molotov cocktail of stanazol windstrawl.

2378
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 1: I'm tired of this, dude.

2379
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,720
Speaker 3: I'm ready to just kiss my hair goodbye all the

2380
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 3: way and then just get.

2381
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:25,799
Speaker 1: On the fucking sauce.

2382
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 3: Because if I could share hard work and I'm not

2383
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 3: getting much from it, you.

2384
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,600
Speaker 2: Know who you should actually talk to because he's you know,

2385
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 2: he's he's been there, Lorenzo for Tita. That's who you

2386
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 2: should talk to.

2387
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 1: It Yeah, I'll ring him, all right, all right? Uh.

2388
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 2: Jason Allen also has a second one, continuing with the

2389
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 2: Gable Stevenson talk. Next week we have BC as another

2390
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: or next week have BC as another Olympic Wrestling gold

2391
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 2: medalist from ww Kurt Angle, Luke, please save the dirty

2392
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 2: joke you're probably thinking of and give respect to the

2393
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 2: art of milk omnia, which is one of the greatest

2394
01:47:56,479 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 2: segments of the WWF Attitude era, which is this.

2395
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Is why I don't watch pro wrestling.

2396
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hard to defend most most times it's hard

2397
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 2: to defend Luke. But I mean it's it's it's art

2398
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 2: just the same, all right, all right, all right, Last,

2399
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 2: but not least from Jason Allen, we have LT as

2400
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 2: Miss Cleo. Last week, Luke caught some heat from some

2401
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,640
Speaker 2: clowns because he predicted that something bad could happen to

2402
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 2: Evander Holyfield in the boxing ring. On Thursday's live chat,

2403
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 2: you addressed this and said, I'm not miss Cleo. Well, LT,

2404
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 2: turns out your bold prediction was correct and we all

2405
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 2: saw how the real deal fared. Thank you both, MK

2406
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 2: all day, every fucking day, did it not?

2407
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 1: Fight? Maybe surprise is the wrong word. What did you make?

2408
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 1: You know?

2409
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 3: What? Let me ask you this, bec what did you

2410
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 3: make of the people pre fight who were like, dude,

2411
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 3: Holyfield's gonna smoke him, Like, how fucking dumb do you

2412
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 3: have to be?

2413
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 1: Where that is your take?

2414
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think people thought he was gonna defensively be

2415
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 2: be tight, which you know, and hide behind the guard

2416
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 2: and then land big counter shots. But dude, it's I mean, look,

2417
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 2: We'reard Hopkins is one of the I mean one of

2418
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 2: the count them on your hand, people who at fifty

2419
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 2: could have like a credible boxing performance at fifty eight

2420
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 2: against somebody with vtur's history's only forty four. No chance, Luke,

2421
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 2: no chance, no chance.

2422
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 1: I was blown away by that.

2423
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he just no chance. It was gonna end badly,

2424
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 2: and this was a hey, please don't sue us, here's

2425
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 2: your money type of deal, you know. No, No, all right,

2426
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 2: Matt As slides and says BC hosting Fridays shows, which

2427
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 2: is really what people look out for all week. Let's

2428
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 2: see what he's got.

2429
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 1: Is that Gaff number two.

2430
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 2: That does look like Gaff number two? And then and

2431
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:54,759
Speaker 2: then Luke Thomas number one. Yeah, that's pretty accurate.

2432
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Luke.

2433
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 2: I think the people I've spoken though, in terms of

2434
01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 2: which host they prefer. Okay, just my editorial this week,

2435
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 2: Thank you Matt s for doing that. Shout out to Gaff.

2436
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: By the way, is this guy no Gaff?

2437
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

2438
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 2: I've been saying for a long time that we need

2439
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 2: to get Gaff and Minietsche. As you know, playable characters

2440
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 2: in the MK universe, like a like Jay Aaron. But

2441
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're hesitant, Luke. You know, I

2442
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 2: mean we didn't ruin Jay Aaron's career.

2443
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 1: Pen Is just you know, Jay's got problems. He's unique.

2444
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 1: Gaff doesn't Apparently Gaff doesn't know this guy all right.

2445
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 2: Final one from at heavy Riff Magnet. Hey there, fella

2446
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 2: Alpha fellow Alpha donks, thanks for featuring my MK Dying

2447
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 2: Fetus logo on m K two hundred. Congrats blah blah blah,

2448
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 2: And as promised, here's a super nineties band logo for

2449
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 2: our man from the Clinton era, jmma's biggest fan, a

2450
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 2: surprisingly thoughtful boxing journalist when he needs to be Brian Campbell.

2451
01:50:56,840 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 2: If you've got some shit, I always want to see it, Luke.

2452
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,639
Speaker 1: That looks very nineties, super nineties.

2453
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually like that. It's got the uh, it's

2454
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 2: got the same, Luke. By the way, I can be

2455
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 2: a very thoughtful analyst when I need to be.

2456
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,799
Speaker 3: Do I need to I know, I've never said otherwise.

2457
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 3: In fact, I think you underperform relative to that.

2458
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 1: Given how good you are.

2459
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:20,719
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for that. Wow. Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

2460
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if I need to be though, Luke.

2461
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:25,759
Speaker 1: You mean during the time in which we're we're requiring

2462
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 1: your services and with that particular skill set. Yes, I

2463
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 1: mean it seems like a very good time to do that.

2464
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:33,559
Speaker 2: I like that logo, Luke, just so that people know

2465
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 2: next week, you and I we canna be doing a

2466
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 2: bunch of live shows from the bunker, from the.

2467
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 3: Uh right, or tons of other stuff as well. So yeah,

2468
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:43,719
Speaker 3: we are gonna be back together.

2469
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm very much looking forward to it.

2470
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 2: Of course, next week is UFC two sixty six. It

2471
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 2: is also Anthony Joshua Alexander Usik Heavyweight Championship fight week,

2472
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 2: so we're gonna have a lot to preview. We got

2473
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 2: a lot, as you mentioned, uh some some bonus stuff

2474
01:51:57,880 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 2: that you're really gonna like out there that we're gonna

2475
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 2: be putting together. So I'm excited to get back with

2476
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 2: the team. Luke. We are just a better show in person.

2477
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 2: I mean there's not you know, I think you know,

2478
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 2: sometimes when we go too long, you and I are

2479
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 2: both like I don't know if I want to do

2480
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 2: this show with this person anymore. But then we get

2481
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 2: back together and we're like, you know, you know.

2482
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 1: The relationship sucks, but I like doing this show.

2483
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 3: I didn't like today's Wheel, but maybe next week's Wheel

2484
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 3: will be better, and I like, I love doing the

2485
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 3: shows in person.

2486
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: That's where that's where the magic happens.

2487
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that's where it happens. All right, Luke,

2488
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 2: you got any any ad reads or anything.

2489
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,839
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just reminder. So for Saturday, of course, Showtime.

2490
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 3: You want to watch the return of you Ol Romero

2491
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 3: to mixed Martial Arts, one place to do it. Showtime

2492
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 3: is your place. So you can go to showtime dot

2493
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 3: com get a thirty day free trial. F you'd like it,

2494
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 3: you can keep it. If not, do whatever it is

2495
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 3: you want to do with the life, but you can watch.

2496
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 3: It should be a lot of fun. As BC indicated

2497
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 3: Morning Combat at gmail dot com for Friday's dead wrong

2498
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 3: or for fan subs either way, or to reach out

2499
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 3: to the show. Just let us know when we got

2500
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 3: wrong on what you want to send over. That'd be fine.

2501
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 3: Like the video hit subscribe. We're all over social. Morning

2502
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 3: Combat's name is the same everywhere, but BC and Eyes

2503
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 3: you can see they have slightly different names between Twitter

2504
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,559
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2505
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2507
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Speaker 3: when you place a one dollar bet on any football game.

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2510
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Speaker 2: Speaking of the MKDK boucake unifying plan right here Thursday

2511
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 2: Night football NFL, normally I would say take that two

2512
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 2: hundred dollars and put it on whomever the Washington Redskins

2513
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 2: are playing. I'm sorry football WFT is playing, Luke. Your

2514
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 2: team this Thursday night is at home against the New

2515
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 2: York Giants, the largely hapless New York Giants. You know,

2516
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't have the official DK line at the moment,

2517
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 2: but I think last time I check, the Redskins are

2518
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,600
Speaker 2: about a three point favorite at home here. What do

2519
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 2: you suggest that people do, given you know how bad

2520
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 2: your team is, but you know how worse those Giants are?

2521
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 2: What should they do with their two hundred dollars here

2522
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:12,439
Speaker 2: Thursday night?

2523
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 3: I tend to think that the Washington football team is

2524
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 3: a sorry ass excuse for a team that every year

2525
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 3: the media somehow convinces everyone locally that everything has changed

2526
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 3: and really nothing ever really changes. But I will say

2527
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 3: that I think their defensive line this year is going

2528
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 3: to be better that it has been in a long time.

2529
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 1: Actually pretty good.

2530
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 3: I think to the New York Giants look bad, They

2531
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 3: look really fucking bad. So I don't think that dub

2532
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 3: FT can beat A whole lot of teams are gonna

2533
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 3: go what seven and nine this season, maybe something like that,

2534
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 3: but one of those seven is going to be the

2535
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 3: New York Giants.

2536
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 1: I do believe that.

2537
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 2: Wow, a man that does not like to make predictions

2538
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 2: is telling you take that two hundred large on the

2539
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 2: DraftKings app put it on WFT at home. I'm sorry

2540
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 2: I said the old name. I'm not I'm not a

2541
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not institutionalized yet, Luke and then in

2542
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 2: the new way of doing things, but I will be soon.

2543
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 2: I typically don't talk about your team much, but this

2544
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 2: should be interesting Thursday night, just the same. Okay, you

2545
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 2: probably gotta go crap.

2546
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 3: That's it, that's it, that's it all right for a

2547
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 3: Brian Campbell as well as the King of Connecticut as

2548
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 3: well as Malka showtime at CBS Sports Live Chat tomorrow

2549
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 3: at three, show on Friday at eleven am. We'll be there,

2550
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 3: You be there, and we'll all be there together until then,

2551
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 3: May all of your gains be loyal