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Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Ink here

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Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing, and we are going to break down

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Speaker 1: the Ravens huge rivalry game against the Pittsburgh Steelers coming

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Speaker 1: up this Sunday at Akrascher Stadium.

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Speaker 2: It's really weird. Heines Field is still not used to it.

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Speaker 2: Akrashuer Stadium. You had to get had to do the

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Speaker 2: double check there.

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Speaker 1: I knew what it was, but I just don't like

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Speaker 1: it anyway, big game in Pittsburgh and Garrett, I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: just off the top here. I mean, it feels like

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Speaker 1: this rivalry is as hot as ever right now. Interesting, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I mean, okay, all right, maybe that's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of hyperbole. Like back in the day, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Hines Wards and all that, like those when they

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Speaker 1: were meeting in the playoffs fairly consistently, it felt like

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Speaker 1: like those games were crazy.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's pretty darn hot right now.

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Speaker 1: You got a seven and three Ravens seam, a seven

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Speaker 1: and two Seiler seam, clearly the top two teams.

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Speaker 2: The AFC North right now.

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Speaker 1: Like it feels like a rivalry that has kind of

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Speaker 1: been in recent years when you know post Ben and

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Speaker 1: all that, and even Ben like when he was at

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Speaker 1: the very tail end of his career, like it just

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Speaker 1: kind of kind of lost its luster a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't the star power necessarily involved. Obviously, Lamar's been

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Speaker 1: sidelined for a bunch of the recent games, Like it

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Speaker 1: just hasn't felt the same, and you're like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Ravens Bengals, maybe he feels a little more intense than

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Speaker 1: raven Steelers does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like it's back.

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Speaker 3: I do agree that it's kind of been on a

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Speaker 3: simmer for the last few years. And in order for

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Speaker 3: a rivalry to really feel like a great one, you

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Speaker 3: need to play huge games against each other, and the

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Speaker 3: Ravens and Steelers really haven't had those iconic games against

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Speaker 3: each other in recent years, in part because Lamar has

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Speaker 3: missed a handful of these games. He's only started four

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Speaker 3: games against the Steelers, really weird, it sounds wild, and

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Speaker 3: he's won in three in those games. But the Ravens

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Speaker 3: have played some games against the Steelers, whether it's late

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Speaker 3: in the season and the Ravens have already locked up

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Speaker 3: a playoff position, or they had the COVID game where

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Speaker 3: like nobody played just like a lot of weird games

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Speaker 3: over the course of the last four years against these

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Speaker 3: against these guys, and so I agree that the rivalry

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Speaker 3: has kind of been a little bit on the back burner.

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Speaker 3: I will say though, and there's it's this game is huge.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these two teams are the best in the

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Speaker 3: division and it's going to be a huge, a huge game.

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Speaker 3: I just think I agree with what Lamar Jackson said

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Speaker 3: on podium this week where he's like, it feels like

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Speaker 3: every team we play has some rivalry element to it,

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Speaker 3: and that does seem to be a thing that has

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Speaker 3: happened over the past few years, like Ravens Bengals definitely

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Speaker 3: has accelerated Ravens Chiefs. Is that a rivalry, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but like that's the team that you got to beat,

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Speaker 3: so it feels like a rivalry. The Titans had a

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Speaker 3: little run there in nineteen and twenty where that was

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Speaker 3: like the most hated team. So you've had some other

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Speaker 3: teams that have kind of come into the mix, and it's.

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Speaker 2: Just hard to have.

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Speaker 3: You can't have four rivals like that doesn't really are

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Speaker 3: as much weight if you have four different rivals. So

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Speaker 3: I do think that there's an element of like there's

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Speaker 3: there's there's rivalry fatigue to some extent. And I do

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Speaker 3: think that this this game, especially with some of the

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Speaker 3: figures in it, has the potential to elevate this game

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Speaker 3: kind of back to the top of the power rankings,

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Speaker 3: the rivalry power, the rivalry power rank Let's have that potential. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree with all that.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like Ravens Chiefs because of the playoff

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Speaker 1: games that they've played against each other, you know, AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship obviously, and uh that that one feels like it's

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Speaker 1: maybe at the top of the power rankings, but that

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Speaker 1: could change down the stretch here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that could change in a hurry.

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Speaker 1: So and I think another element that is making this

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Speaker 1: and p Q going to Pittsburgh specifically has kind of

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Speaker 1: you know Terrell Suggs, you know ray Lewis and some

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Speaker 1: we heard some of that this week from Patrick Queen,

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Speaker 1: and speaking to Pittsburgh reporters, he made the point that

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Speaker 1: Q has also said previously that he took less money

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Speaker 1: He had higher offers from other teams, and so he

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Speaker 1: has a chip on his shoulder, he has a point

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Speaker 1: to prove, and I think that that brings another level

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Speaker 1: of intrigue to this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Patrick Queen factor definitely is is an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: This was a guy who first round picked here and

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Speaker 3: and he was really productive. He was great the last

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Speaker 3: two years in particular. And I you know this, I've

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Speaker 3: always been a fan of Patrick Queen. I thought he's

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Speaker 3: And honestly, it felt like from the moment he signed

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Speaker 2: Gonna be the Baltimore villain.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 3: He just took on that mindset, insulting the food, basically

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Speaker 3: everything that he's said someone there.

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Speaker 2: I felt like entertainment, almost like w w EA style.

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Speaker 2: I think there's an element of that.

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Speaker 3: Like he knew he was basically being the villain, he's

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's part of I'm sure man,

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Speaker 3: that if he makes a play, if he makes a big,

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Speaker 3: over at the sidelines and John because he's a trash talker.

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Speaker 2: Like he talks trash.

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Speaker 3: He's always been that way, and so I'm sure that's

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Speaker 3: that he's going to be an emotional guy who's looking

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Speaker 3: to to talk his talk during that game.

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Speaker 1: Can I just interject really quick that I think this

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Speaker 1: a contract and all that stuff is also part entertainment.

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Speaker 1: Because everybody who talked to PQ at the end of

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Speaker 1: Patrick Queen knew he wasn't going to be back.

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Speaker 2: It was like, you know, oh, he was saying.

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Speaker 1: As goodbyes there was he knew that that was not

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Speaker 1: said that before, way before locker clean out. When Roquan

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Speaker 1: They turned down his fifth year option, like he knew

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Speaker 1: he was going elsewhere, and and so what. I don't

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Speaker 1: think if the Ravens had given him a low ball

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Speaker 1: offer that would have made him feel any better, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's even more insulting in my opinion. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: understand from an emotional aspect, it's just hard. Like when

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Speaker 1: you've played as hard as he did here for four years,

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Speaker 1: though you know logically this is what's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: the emotional side can be hurtful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I just think it's motivation, just like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you don't want me, you don't You chose to sign

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Speaker 3: somebody else. Is the way that he's looking at it,

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Speaker 3: And that can absolutely be motivation. You choose, You chose

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Speaker 1: Direction when the Ravens prioritize Matty bkay bringing Matt to back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you chose to go with other players. You chose

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Speaker 3: am here to show you. This is Patrick Queen's mindset,

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Speaker 3: like I'm here to show you that you should have

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Speaker 3: signed me. That's what any player feels when they go

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Speaker 3: like you know, there's an element. Arthur Mulett is an example.

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Speaker 3: He played for the Steelers and has been here for

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Speaker 1: So yaid, well, I mean somewhat similar situation. He wanted

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Speaker 1: more money from the Steelers. They said, now, we're not

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so really, I can think that any player, when

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Speaker 3: that's natural and I think it's fair and it creates

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Speaker 3: an interesting and exciting subplot of this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I guess my point is, like I

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they should be looking like

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Speaker 1: So he says, right, like, I think you know, the

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Speaker 1: to happen if they had low balledom with some low

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Speaker 1: new Slash. That's that was a good move. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: and like, and they prioritized justin Medabk or no in

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the Ravens like played that wrong.

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Speaker 2: And I can understand Peaky's I think again, it.

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Speaker 3: Just comes back to like you're looking for motivation and

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Speaker 3: you have it in this fact. And I mean even

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Speaker 2: Throughout the entire season, and then he had a great

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Speaker 3: And then he got the contract there in Pittsburgh, and

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Speaker 3: it that is an interesting subplot of scheme, and there's

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Speaker 3: there's a handful of guys. So there's queen. I mentioned

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Speaker 3: them all. Let Deshaun Elliott is another one. Now, Deshaun

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Speaker 3: there's he's kind of talking to his talk this week.

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Speaker 3: He's got talking to it. And then you got Deatay

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Speaker 3: both teams. He sees the man in the back and forth.

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Speaker 3: So like you have a handful of guys. And for

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Speaker 3: a long time, I can't really remember the Ravens having

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Speaker 2: So it's a little bit unique. Bell Le'Veon Bell.

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Speaker 3: But I mean he was on the practice squad and

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Speaker 1: Like there's big We put a photo gallery in this, Okay, Alejandro.

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Speaker 2: Villa in the way of filling away. Actually maybe that

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Speaker 2: That's probably that.

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Speaker 3: I think that any these guys are looking to maximize

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Speaker 1: I also don't I don't fault there's no ill ill

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Speaker 3: That can work to his advantage or disadvantage, you know completely.

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Speaker 3: But it'll that's kind of an interesting subplot of this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely agree.

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Speaker 1: So you know, but I think that the Steelers pose

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Speaker 3: I've said all year that I feel like and this

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Speaker 3: Watt is a guy who can wreck shop. The Ravens

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Speaker 2: They need to contain TJ. Watt.

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Speaker 3: They can't be in a situation. I feel like I

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Speaker 3: If they're in a situation where it's a tie game

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Speaker 3: That's not a situation that many teams succeeded, the Ravens included.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers feel like they win that game ninety percent

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Speaker 2: Like TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt makes a play, their special teams makes I I

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt makes some crazy play in the fourth quarter, they

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Speaker 2: Back, win the game.

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Speaker 1: They make a special play on special teams, they hit

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Speaker 2: You know, their offenses struggles for three quarters, hit hit

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Speaker 2: their whole recipe is keep it close, keep it close,

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Speaker 2: get it to the fourth corner, and let TJ. Watt

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or a big passing or a big passing play

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Speaker 3: to George Pickens, which and that's what happened last year

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Speaker 2: I'm it was what happened last week to the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And like they've they've done that. If you go

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Speaker 2: Just just blow them out. Yeah, let's just do that.

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Speaker 2: Just blow him out. You don't got to worry about it,

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Speaker 1: Like happy Gilmour when he hits the whole one, He's like,

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Speaker 1: why dot?

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Speaker 2: I just do that every time as much easier.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that definitely a subplot in this game.

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Speaker 1: Is Ken Lamar finally get the Steelers? Can he kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And the one win that he does have was that

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Speaker 3: that game and Lamar actually didn't have his best game.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't that an offensive shootout by any means.

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Speaker 3: But Marlon changed the game with a turnover late in

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Speaker 3: and I mentioned him is King Henry in the Ravens backfield.

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Speaker 3: And you think about this game and all of the

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Speaker 3: adjectives that get thrown around to physical, old school football,

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Speaker 3: Who is good and that type of a game? Oh, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry he fits. He seems like he's a nice

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Speaker 3: fit for this Ravens Steelers game. Yeah, and then now

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that this is the kind of games, certainly,

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Speaker 2: Right, you want to you got to beat.

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Speaker 1: Your division foes first, and the Ravens have not. You know,

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Speaker 1: So the Ravens are hell bent.

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens aren't out there just thumping their chests

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to beat your division pos first.

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Speaker 1: Winning the division is priority to number one, And Derrick

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny he's talking to him this week

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Speaker 3: Really didn't he didn't play, he didn't take, he didn't

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Speaker 2: Like he was just another game, another.

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Speaker 3: Game the other opponent. Try to do what I can to

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Speaker 1: Nobody in the Ravens locker room or on podium was

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Speaker 1: buying too much of anything this week. Yeah, very tight

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's a far cry.

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Speaker 3: It's much different from when Terrell Suggs would wear like

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Speaker 2: Piece of this game. And I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: the potential of a three headed monster. I think that

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Speaker 3: he will get more snaps as the season progresses, but

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Speaker 3: I think it's still going to be a limited workload.

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Speaker 3: And even Keaton was like those those guys are, they're

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Speaker 3: hummed like things are working great. So wherever I can

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Speaker 3: get in and get some reps and try to make

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Speaker 3: an impact, I'll do that. But things are working pretty well.

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Speaker 3: He's very well aware of that fact.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that Keaton, it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: slower ramp up process for him. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that he's going to be getting that many more

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Speaker 1: offensive snaps than two.

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Speaker 2: It could be five, yeah, you know, but we're Afar.

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Speaker 1: I think we're a little ways away from the ten

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Speaker 1: to fifteen snaps for Keaton Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: You know, only a Derek Henry leads lee and rushing.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to take away from what he's doing, right,

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Speaker 1: And then Justice Hill what he's offered as a pass

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Speaker 1: catcher and pass protection, all those things like that's another

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Speaker 1: element of this backfield's that's critical for the Ravens' success.

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Speaker 1: So you know, could Keaton take some of the carries

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Speaker 1: potentially that Justice has gotten this season away?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see Keaton get a few a

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Speaker 1: game and see if you can break one, because every

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Speaker 1: time he touches the ball, he's that electric that he

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Speaker 1: can break one.

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Speaker 2: And would I like to see it this week? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This is this is the first Keaton Mitchell Steelers experience.

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Speaker 1: He did not play an either game against the Steelers

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Speaker 1: last season. So I mean he's he can be a

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Speaker 1: difference maker with one touch and I think that that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the outlook for Keat Mitch. I don't expect

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Speaker 1: his role to expand greatly over the this week or

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Speaker 1: even the next few.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think he also as a special team as a

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Speaker 3: returner on special steams. That's going to be important because

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Speaker 3: if he could take one of those of the.

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Speaker 1: House one hundred percent, I'm on board one hundred percent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that might be where he can make his biggest

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Speaker 1: impact for now is as a kickoff returner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy can be. Yeah, they blocked that up.

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Speaker 2: They give him any any daylight. It doesn't need munchy,

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Speaker 2: He's gone, just the little slivery daylight. He can take

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Speaker 2: it to the house. Yep.

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Speaker 3: I Also, what's your take on Deontay Johnson And he

487
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Speaker 3: also didn't really take the bait in terms of talking

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Speaker 3: about the Steelers and talked.

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Speaker 1: About how much he loved it there and and yeah,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't going to talk his trash now. When he

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Speaker 1: the first time that we talked to him after he

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Speaker 1: was the Ravens traded for him, he said, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to those Steelers games. Yeah, and uh, you

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Speaker 1: know they traded him away eight months ago. He's not

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Speaker 1: far removed from being a Steeler. And we talked about

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Speaker 1: PQ being one of the biggest guys, you know, to

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Speaker 1: change sides. I mean, Deontay Johnson was a pro bowler there, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not long ago, putting up over a thousand yards and

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Speaker 1: so now I think it's different because his role on

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Speaker 1: in Sunday's game is going to be a lot less

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Speaker 1: than Patrick Queen's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Deontay was targeted by two passes this past week,

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Speaker 1: it had one catch. Can he get into the five

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Speaker 1: target range? Yeah, I think that there's a possibility of that,

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Speaker 1: but it's clear and I don't think it's changing that

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers and Rashad Bateman or wide receivers one and two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I see it too. And maybe there's

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Speaker 2: gonna be opportunities for him. You could have.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just look at what Tyler Wallace did last week,

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Speaker 3: So you may have Thiland had what three catches and

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Speaker 3: took one of them to the house for eighty yards

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Speaker 3: in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: So if you if you take one eighty rs, that's

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Speaker 2: what you need Simon, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: But I think I think that he's going to be

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Speaker 3: in that mix, and that probably under five targets. But

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Speaker 3: if you make something happen with one of those targets,

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Speaker 3: that's a good thing. And I do think that I

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Speaker 3: think Lamar Jackson does want to get everybody involved. I

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Speaker 3: think that he thinks about that, he cares about that,

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Speaker 3: and I think that if there's an opportunity to get

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Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson going against his former team, Lamar is going

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Speaker 3: to be looking for a chance to do that.

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Speaker 2: But he's not going to be forcing the ball. He's

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Speaker 2: not going to be forced free forty.

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Speaker 3: It's a balance there, Yeah, And I think Lamar does

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Speaker 3: a good job of threading that needle in terms of

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Speaker 3: making sure that his guys are getting the ball and

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Speaker 3: are involved and that he knows he could go to

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Speaker 3: them at any point, but also not force feeding them

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Speaker 3: the ball. I think he does a good job of

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Speaker 3: threading that needle, and I think he'll try to do

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Speaker 3: that with Deontay any Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I do think Deontay Johnson, especially after what Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: said this week where he based he had coach speak

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Speaker 1: trash talk this week talking about Deontay of like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I haven't really paid much attention to that. He's not

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Speaker 1: on their film all that much. I think you better

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Speaker 1: believe that Deontay Johnson wants to make a play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, and I think that he could do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not ruling that.

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Speaker 1: Out all right, to round things out talking about their

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Speaker 1: all and we already talked about TJ Watt and the

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Speaker 1: impact he can have. Well, the assignment of blocking him

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Speaker 1: is primarily Roger rosen Gardens and I talked to Roger

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Speaker 1: this week and you know, he said, as soon as

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Speaker 1: he was drafted, his mind immediately went to these AFC

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Speaker 1: North battles and some of the pass rushers he's going

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Speaker 1: to face. An it ain't just TJ Watt. You got

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Trey Hendrickson. Some of the best pass rushers

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Speaker 1: in the league reside in the AFC North. And the

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Speaker 1: big difference, however, is that Miles Garrett and Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 1: play the vast majority of their snaps lined up over

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Speaker 1: the left tackle.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt is almost exclusively rushing the right tackle of the

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Speaker 1: opposing team, and so it's Roger's assignment.

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Speaker 2: It's not his assignment alone.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he will have help at times with that,

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Speaker 1: but this is a huge test for the Ravens second

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Speaker 1: round pick, who earned a starting job and has played

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Speaker 1: pretty darn well this year.

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Speaker 2: I think this is going to be his toughest challenge yet.

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Speaker 3: TJ Watt, as I've said, one of the best defensive

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Speaker 3: play football and he is. He is a force coming

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Speaker 3: off that edge. You can beat you in so many

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Speaker 3: different ways. He's relentless. I'm sure that's been a focus

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Speaker 3: for Roger, like, never let up the block on this

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Speaker 3: guy until the play is done.

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Speaker 2: Done.

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Speaker 3: Guy's gotta be going back to the huddle before you're

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Speaker 3: done because TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt never lets off.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that it's gonna be a challenge

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Speaker 3: for him, and there's probably gonna be some reps that

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Speaker 3: that TJ.

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Speaker 2: Wins.

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Speaker 3: But I think that one thing that I really was

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Speaker 3: struck by when we sat down with Roger friend of

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Speaker 3: the lounge, was he has the right mindset, I think,

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Speaker 3: to be able to shake off a bad play and

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Speaker 3: to he is. He's confident, but he also knows that

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Speaker 3: it's it's hard to win every single matchup, every single

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Speaker 3: snap in the league, and you got to have a

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Speaker 3: short memory, shake that off and get back out there

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Speaker 3: and get out of it again.

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Speaker 2: So I to find his rookie season right.

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Speaker 1: The first snap goes sideways, sax strip fumble yep from

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones and you know to bounce back.

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Speaker 2: That just kind of.

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Speaker 1: Encapsulates the season for Roger. Rosegarden is like, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have ups and downs on your rookie starting offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, and he's gonna have up and

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Speaker 1: in this game and he's gonna need to kind of

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Speaker 1: work his way through that. And I was struck talking

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Speaker 1: to Roger, like there wasn't a nervousness factor about him

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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: Oh about this that just struck me as confident. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like he was like, yeah, man, I'm excited like this.

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Speaker 1: These are the matchups that you dream about, that you're

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Speaker 1: excited for, like, and so I think he's taking a

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Speaker 1: good mindset into this game.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll take you a quick break.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll dive into some of the

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Speaker 3: conversation around the defense. You're listening to the Lage podcast

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Speaker 3: The Draft King Sportsbook. The Crown is yours. So this defense,

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Speaker 3: obviously it's struggled from a past coverage standpoint. I think

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Speaker 3: what it comes down to for me is limiting the

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Speaker 3: big play. That's what the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Are known for.

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Speaker 3: That's what Russell Wilson is known for, That's what George

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Speaker 3: Pickens is known for.

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Speaker 2: I just think that that Russell Wilson moon ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the deep shot to George Pickens. It wasn't Russell

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Speaker 3: Wilson last year, but we saw that and that's what

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Speaker 3: the Ravens lost that game on. Was the big play

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Speaker 3: to George Pickens late in that game.

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Speaker 1: And so all of that is when lost won the

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Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson at the end of the year. Now the

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Speaker 1: Ravens backups were playing in that game, but again, fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: big play, mistackle over the middle, Deontay Johnson takes to

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Speaker 1: the house, game over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think that those big plays that that's that

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Speaker 3: is the the that's them of the Steelers offense, yep, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean they want to run the ball, they want

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Speaker 1: to be physical with Najie Harris, Jayalen Warren. They're going

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Speaker 1: to pound pound pound pound on the run and then

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Speaker 1: they're going to try to beat you over.

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Speaker 2: The top and uh and yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that's been the Ravens Achilles heel all season. They've

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Speaker 1: given up more big plays this year already than they

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Speaker 1: did all of last year, and so the safety play

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Speaker 1: UH is going to be paramount in trying to take

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Speaker 1: that away. And these Ravens cornerbacks, you know the rate

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Speaker 1: the Steelers went out and got Mike Williams, who won

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Speaker 1: them the game late in the fourth quarter against the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: Tough assignments for Brandon Stevens, Marlon Humphrey, Nate Wiggans, all

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Speaker 1: those guys. And so I think part of the question

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens this week is do they change things

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Speaker 1: up in the secondary? How much do they change things

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Speaker 1: in the secondary.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if Eddie Jackson will step into a role.

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Speaker 3: You know, he basically he went from not playing much,

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Speaker 3: then starting playing every snap, then he was a healthy scratch,

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Speaker 3: and then he was back in the mix a little

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Speaker 3: bit last week. So I do wonder if his snaps

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Speaker 3: increase at all. You know, Marcus Williams struggled last week

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Speaker 3: against the Bengals, so does Eddie Jackson reassert into the

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Speaker 3: starting lineup. I also I am curious if Nate Wiggins

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Speaker 3: gets a bigger snap share. I think that he's a

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Speaker 3: raw player, but super talented. I like what I've seen

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Speaker 3: from him this rookie season, So.

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Speaker 1: He's the past three weeks, he's played him his better football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he still needs to eliminate some of the penalties.

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Speaker 1: It's just been a little too grabby, but has not

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Speaker 1: given up many catches just point blank yeah, over the

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Speaker 1: past three weeks.

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Speaker 3: He's not given up much. So I wonder if he's

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Speaker 3: going to get a larger snap share.

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Speaker 2: In the box. Give him the thumbs out, yeah, I love.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got the best celebration too. He's definitely

667
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: got the bits great. It looks cool. I don't really

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Speaker 2: know what it means, but it's sweet. Put him in

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Speaker 2: a box and then he got the thumbs down to

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Speaker 2: the box. But so then he But then the other wildcard.

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Speaker 3: Factor there is is Trudevious White. The Raves traded for him.

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00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: He's an outside corner. The Ravens made that clear. So

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Speaker 3: he is he going to play much? Is he going

674
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: to take snaps away from Brandon Stevens. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how much we're going to see a Tredevious White, but

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00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: it sounded like and hearing from John Harbor at the

677
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: start of the week, they're going to take a hard

678
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: look at him, and they traded for him for a reason.

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Speaker 3: So he might get some some work this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, it's the snapshare questions are bound this week with Keaton,

682
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: uh Deontay and Tredavious. Again, similar to the other guys

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Speaker 1: on offense, I don't know that it's going to be

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00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: a big snapshare right off the jump for Tredavious. I

685
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: think that's kind of a you.

686
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Speaker 2: Know, it's a shot.

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Speaker 1: It's a shot on today as a player who was

688
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: a really one of the better quarterbacks in the league

689
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: early on in his career, suffered a couple of major injuries.

690
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: In the injury Achilles coming back, Like, to me, that's

691
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Speaker 1: kind of you didn't have to give up a whole

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Speaker 1: lot to get him. I think he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: prove himself in practice a little bit more, probably to

694
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: take snaps away from these really established guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: and not to say.

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Speaker 3: I think the difference the difference I always say that

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00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: was on offense. You have Derek Hennery leading the league

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Speaker 3: in rushing.

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00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: They keep Mitchell well sure.

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Speaker 1: On offense, it's like, if it ain't break, don't break,

701
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: don't fix it. It's broke to a agree on pass defense, right,

702
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: so you need to fix us. Yeah, and I agree

703
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: it's a different scenario, but I anticipate that it's.

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00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: Not going to be a large snapshare for Tredavious.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, they have a handful of guys who

706
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: they can could work in I mentioned way against Radavious one.

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00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: They have Arthur Moulette as well.

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Speaker 3: You know he's going to be really motivated going up

709
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Speaker 3: against Steelers, so they had And then the other factor,

710
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: a massive one this week, is the status of Kyle Hamilton.

711
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Speaker 3: Is he going to play in this game? I'm sure

712
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's he's coming back from the ankle

714
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Speaker 1: during Wednesday's practice, reporters the part of practice that we

715
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Speaker 1: were out there for. So I'm running with a trader

716
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: on a side field, but you know, wasn't in uniform,

717
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: didn't practice, and.

718
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: So a good sign that he's out there running.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this that Kyle Hamilton is a do

720
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Speaker 1: and if he can play, he's going to play. And

721
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Speaker 1: even if he's not one hundred percent, like I find

722
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: it hard to believe that Kyle Hamilton is going to say,

723
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just not quite there. If he can play,

724
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: help me, Yeah, And and obviously a huge game like

725
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: they need him Ravens need to win this game. And

726
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: so again, yeah, like you said, I think if he

727
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Speaker 1: can play, he will play.

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Speaker 3: Other notes on the injury front, Isaiah Likely did return.

729
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: He did not play against the Bengals due to a

730
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: hamstring injury, but he was back on the practice field

731
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Speaker 3: on Wednesday, So really encouraging sign to see him back

732
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Speaker 3: out there if he's able to get through practice healthy

733
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Speaker 3: this week and play on Sunday. And then on the

734
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Speaker 3: Steelers side.

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Speaker 2: On Brent Urban returning to practice, yes, just the past

736
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Speaker 2: two weeks with a concussion, and.

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Speaker 3: That was big to have him back on the field.

738
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Speaker 3: Important players. He gets a ton of snaps. But you

739
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: want to have your defensive line good, especially against the

740
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Speaker 3: Steelers against that run for this for this game, winning

741
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 3: the trenches, that running attack, you want to have your

742
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: defensive line healthy. And then for the Steelers, their pass

743
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: rusher opposite of TJ. Watt, Alex high Smith, he went

744
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: down with an ankle injury last week. He's not gonna play.

745
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: Mike Tom said that he's not going to.

746
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Speaker 2: Play this week.

747
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Speaker 3: So that's a blow to their defense because he's a

748
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: really good player. And so that's that's.

749
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Speaker 1: Now they have Nick her big Yeah, who I think

750
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: is a pretty good player who's going to step into

751
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: that role.

752
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, high Smith.

753
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Speaker 1: I mean gosh, he was one of the NFL's leaders

754
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: in sacks a couple of years ago.

755
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a loss for them.

756
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Speaker 1: But like I think, the Steelers, it's not like Ronnie

757
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Stanley has a walk in the park.

758
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now the Steelers, that defense is it's really good.

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00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: It is almost every year. Yeah, so we can't wait

760
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Speaker 2: for this game. Any predictions. I think it's gonna be

761
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: the when in Pittsburgh. Baby, let's get it done. Let's

762
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: turn it around. Let's turn around and start owning the

763
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Speaker 2: Steelers with the big bag. When