Speaker 1: Okay, So I love you. I'm excited to speak to you.
Speaker 1: I'm so tired and like a little off today.
Speaker 2: I see you, I see everything. I'm like, you're tired.
Speaker 2: I'd be exhausted from just doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: It's kind of liberating. But I'm a little tired and activated.
Speaker 1: But like hearing you, know, knowing that I was speaking
Speaker 1: to you this morning, I was excited because I just
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel a connection to you.
Speaker 3: I really we like each other. I like you. We
Speaker 3: get it, you know, I like you very person.
Speaker 2: It's mutual, no be I love you. You're amazing, and
Speaker 2: we've done stuff and I could see you do things,
Speaker 2: and you know, I really have to say, it's the consistency.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm the same person twenty years later. It
Speaker 2: feels like you're the same chick all these years. And
Speaker 2: you say stuff that's yours, you stand by it, you
Speaker 2: stand on your business, and no matter what. It's very
Speaker 2: It's admirable. People fluctuate nowadays to many too much.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh my god, you're like Oprah, I'm about
Speaker 1: to cry. You're like Barbara Walters.
Speaker 3: I'm just having an emotional morning. It's weird. And I'm
Speaker 3: like about to cry now what you're saying and everything.
Speaker 2: You're good, You're good listen, but it's uh yeah, it's
Speaker 2: the it's the thing that you know. For me, everything
Speaker 2: that we do is so under the microscope. And you know,
Speaker 2: Peter is very sensitive to these things. You know, I
Speaker 2: feel like I have a thicker skin. I'm sensitive to
Speaker 2: people in my own circle, so they think I'm sensitive Sally,
Speaker 2: but outside people feel like he doesn't really care much.
Speaker 2: I care too much, you know, I just don't let it.
Speaker 3: I know you're very emotional here, you're emotional. I'm just
Speaker 3: I just I think this is all coming out of
Speaker 3: me right now. But I don't feel we are doing
Speaker 3: this in front of you because I love you. Okay,
Speaker 3: I love this. I love this, all right, how's Peter.
Speaker 1: You guys seem like, I mean listening social media as bullshit,
Speaker 1: but like I love when you guys are dancing, and
Speaker 1: I think like you have an honest way of doing
Speaker 1: the social media about announcing the baby, like it's just
Speaker 1: like it's really.
Speaker 3: Genuine, it's really loving. I love this.
Speaker 1: So how is this whole dynamic of you guys with
Speaker 1: social media and like doing these dance performances and like
Speaker 1: all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Everybody's thinking that, oh, you guys dance all the time. No,
Speaker 2: we don't live with life all the time. You know,
Speaker 2: dance comes comes the same way as it comes to
Speaker 2: everybody else's life. You know, dance is my job. But
Speaker 2: you know, in between, it's tough social media. You know.
Speaker 2: We sat down with Peter. I'm being very honest. I'm
Speaker 2: not the guy for this thing, you know, and so
Speaker 2: for me, in order for this to work, I need,
Speaker 2: first of all, consistency. I'm a capricorn with OCD. I
Speaker 2: need this to be set, like what are we doing
Speaker 2: and how long we're doing this for?
Speaker 3: You mean, like you have to know, like Tuesday, we're
Speaker 3: doing the dance. I'll learn it. We're going next to
Speaker 3: the trailers and we're going to do that.
Speaker 2: We're doing this right, We're doing this once twice a week?
Speaker 2: Is this set up for these type of shoots? I
Speaker 2: want to make sure that it's pre set, pre planned?
Speaker 2: Peter is the type. Why are you being so dramatically?
Speaker 3: Just do it?
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool. So we said at twelve months,
Speaker 2: you know, twelve months kind of like system, right. I
Speaker 2: created this system of filming and managing our life and
Speaker 2: doing stuff. So make sure that if we start that
Speaker 2: we continue. And again there's that consistency and everything. And
Speaker 2: twelve months later we sat down, We're like, we're being
Speaker 2: extremely successful. This was two years ago.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Well, she's doing her mom tent. Well, she's in the
Speaker 1: kitchen and making fun of you and I love that stuff.
Speaker 1: And then you have like then you're the two of
Speaker 1: us are dancing, and then your kids dancing. So this
Speaker 1: looks like it's just like happened. But obviously those dances
Speaker 1: are somewhat complicated sometimes. So yeah, how do you define
Speaker 1: that it's been successful? You're getting grand deals, you're making money,
Speaker 1: the actual contents making money.
Speaker 3: What is successful?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because so for us, this is either waste of
Speaker 2: time and I focus all my energy somewhere that is
Speaker 2: not or I make the most out of it. To
Speaker 2: make the most out of this, we had a number
Speaker 2: that Peter was casually doing a year before social media
Speaker 2: money coming in, and that number was was a number,
Speaker 2: and we sat down and I looked at it and
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, so I want to scale it.
Speaker 2: Let's see if we can. And so we set a
Speaker 2: twelve month system, and a year later that number tripled,
Speaker 2: and so I was like, great, this is working. Now
Speaker 2: let's do it for real. And so that was our
Speaker 2: last year and our number went up again. And so
Speaker 2: you know, the reality here is this twofold number one.
Speaker 2: Everything you see is real. You know the dances that
Speaker 2: we do. I'm not gonna lie to you. It may
Speaker 2: have taken ten minutes, and we may have done it
Speaker 2: twice and twice as if it's like baby, I really
Speaker 2: don't like it, and let's do it again. Otherwise you
Speaker 2: see what you get because that's the reality. But the fundamentally,
Speaker 2: the first thing that happened is when Peter and I
Speaker 2: looked at each other and said, this is cute, but
Speaker 2: what is it that we're doing. We had to sit down,
Speaker 2: come to Jesus with the social media and say, look,
Speaker 2: you can talk about how private you are and how
Speaker 2: you don't let things out, but you got an Instagram
Speaker 2: account with on point some million and you putting out
Speaker 2: twenty stories a day. But you being a hypocrite, you know.
Speaker 2: So we decided to keep this this way, but we
Speaker 2: control the narrative. You're not gonna paparazzi me outside and
Speaker 2: see me in sort of like a disheveled look, because
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put that shit on social media myself and
Speaker 2: it will be part of my video.
Speaker 1: No, I get you're direct to consumer, direct to consumer content.
Speaker 1: And also you don't owe anybody you just like everybody
Speaker 1: that's watching it. It's also on TikTok or Instagram. They're
Speaker 1: not telling you how many times a week they're having
Speaker 1: sex or what the financial problems are. Like, You're not
Speaker 1: paid anymore to share your life. You're not on Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars regularly as a character that's paid to
Speaker 1: share your life. I'm not on the housewise.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, there is the responsibility. Is
Speaker 2: this the responsibilities that we don't like you? You see
Speaker 2: what we do and you see us. Yeah, now I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna post a video of me crying and talking
Speaker 2: about my my issues. No, I'm gonna give you as
Speaker 2: much as I willing to give you. But what I'm
Speaker 2: giving you is real, you know. But the reality is
Speaker 2: that the people you're looking at that you sort of
Speaker 2: you know, mimicking your life after and you're like, this
Speaker 2: is this is the kind of family I want to be?
Speaker 2: The reality is thirty percent of their stuff that their
Speaker 2: show and seventy percent is alive. You don't know what
Speaker 2: their life is. And we see that, and we see
Speaker 2: these superstar couples, celebrity couples, the social media celebrity couples
Speaker 2: that are all of a sudden five seven years of
Speaker 2: successful family business and how beautiful they are, and now
Speaker 2: they're they're divorced. They've never even liked this. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: have this nasty situation and so like, were you lying
Speaker 2: then or is this kind of you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's well no, that's why it's you can't say respect
Speaker 1: our privacy during his time because you brought us into
Speaker 1: the perfect fairy tale. It's like the Jennifer Lopez A
Speaker 1: Rod thing was like, oh my god, like look at
Speaker 1: them and they're both from similar cultures and they both
Speaker 1: have two kids and they're in love and they're doing
Speaker 1: all of the under fiftieth birthday and it was all
Speaker 1: like so amazing, and then all of a sudden, one day,
Speaker 1: it just crashes and burns. She's now with Ben and
Speaker 1: we're and no one's supposed to be asking any questions.
Speaker 3: Or like wait, what wa whoa what you know?
Speaker 1: Because it was perfect but you can't blame quote unquote
Speaker 1: trolls for trolling when you brought them into the fairy tale.
Speaker 1: If you don't bring them into the fairy tale, then
Speaker 1: like George Clooney and them all, don't bring people into
Speaker 1: the fairy tale, and they don't have to bring people
Speaker 1: into anything else that goes on, like some people do
Speaker 1: it really well.
Speaker 3: So anyway, we agree to agree.
Speaker 1: What's going on with your family in Ukraine, the situation,
Speaker 1: you're feeling about it, you're feeling about the criticism about
Speaker 1: it overall, like the shift, people don't pay attention to
Speaker 1: it anymore. It's not a cool relief effort anymore. Like
Speaker 1: what about that?
Speaker 2: Okay, My perspective is that it's a stalemate and it's
Speaker 2: somebody's political games and it's always been that, But there
Speaker 2: was a moment when it was about people standing up
Speaker 2: and watching people really stand up for what they believe
Speaker 2: in their you know, their livelihood. Not only but they're
Speaker 2: they're you know, they're thing like the culture. I mean,
Speaker 2: do you defend a nation nationality?
Speaker 3: Right? So that was the underdog and as an underdog,
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 2: All of that and as an underdog and everything else,
Speaker 2: and now Obviously the situation with Israel is shook things up. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you know how much of all of that is happening
Speaker 2: around the world is very difficult for Ukraine. But the
Speaker 2: reality is that, you know, it's it's gonna all of
Speaker 2: these things will come to an end. I would just
Speaker 2: hate it to be at the expense of Ukraine, you know,
Speaker 2: and Ukrainian people, and and so and so I'm still
Speaker 2: very much supporting the actions of you know, defending the
Speaker 2: actions of getting the lend back if there's an opportunity
Speaker 2: for that. But I will not be the guy to say, hey,
Speaker 2: let's sacrifice you know, the rest of this youth, you know,
Speaker 2: because it's not the same sacrifice on both sides. I'm
Speaker 2: not down with that because it seems to me like this,
Speaker 2: this this generation is almost like, you know, you're doomed,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because we're going to keep
Speaker 2: throwing you at the front line until we'll figure out
Speaker 2: what we're doing. And so I saw a video from
Speaker 2: somebody from front and again on all those telegram channels,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and you see a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff coming in still and you're seeing these people
Speaker 2: from frontline recording videos like we're not your chess pieces.
Speaker 2: You know, this isn't one hundred and fifty years ago.
Speaker 2: This is a completely different society we live in and
Speaker 2: so we're not here to be pawned while you guys
Speaker 2: figure out politics of it all. So right, you know,
Speaker 2: it's horrible, it's terrible. But the worst part is this
Speaker 2: is that we kept talking about a year ago, like, oh,
Speaker 2: when these guys come back, we have to rehab and
Speaker 2: rehabilitate and everything else. Well, these guys have been coming back.
Speaker 2: I have I have dances of mine that I've judged on,
Speaker 2: these dance shows that have been in the front line,
Speaker 2: that returned to Kiev and looked around and they were
Speaker 2: not able to reassimilate into the society. They said, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna go back. And the case in
Speaker 2: point is one gentleman he came back. He's a young man,
Speaker 2: his brilliant future is a dancer. He came back said
Speaker 2: this isn't for me. I don't understand this. I don't
Speaker 2: judge anybody. I don't understand how the nightclubs open and
Speaker 2: restaurants and everything else in the center while we're defending
Speaker 2: that center somewhere else, so he went back and he's
Speaker 2: never come back.
Speaker 3: How is your family?
Speaker 2: The family is great. The family is great. My parents
Speaker 2: moved to LA. We're finally all together, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden there's just grandkids all over the place. So
Speaker 2: we're doing that thing.
Speaker 3: What was your goal? How many kids did you want
Speaker 3: to have?
Speaker 2: The men look like we have goals when these things happen.
Speaker 2: I mean, if a man says I want seven kids,
Speaker 2: I'm like, listen, bro, it's not really about you for
Speaker 2: that matter. You know what I mean? Like, you can
Speaker 2: have dreams. I dream of being happy and everybody being
Speaker 2: satisfied with their life, and I want to provide for
Speaker 2: everybody if it's five, because I can't break. I'm now
Speaker 2: past the point of everything I knew before. I just
Speaker 2: knew two kids in the family, and my brother and
Speaker 2: I grew up this way. You know a lot of
Speaker 2: people that I looked at people with three and more
Speaker 2: as like, you guys are crazy? What are you right?
Speaker 3: So you are the three family? You're going to be
Speaker 3: the three family? Now are you? First of all, do
Speaker 3: you guys have a lot of sex?
Speaker 1: You don't have to answer, but are you guys very
Speaker 1: sexual and who who's the initiative, who wants who's the
Speaker 1: one who's like you really.
Speaker 2: Both but also like she spent a bunch of years
Speaker 2: pregnant and post pregnant and another We've dealt with things,
Speaker 2: but we try, we try not to pause. And you know,
Speaker 2: with her situations and the the randomness of it. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: if she feels some kind of way and it's like
Speaker 2: two thirty in the afternoon and I'm in the middle
Speaker 2: of stuff, just let me know, let me know, I can,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, we we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: But I'm just a very regular guy, but who's very,
Speaker 2: very healthy and maintains very you know, like various. I
Speaker 2: keep my levels up, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: and so is she and so we are that couple. Yes, kids, yes, no,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of stuff going on. But when
Speaker 2: it's us together, all of this makes sense, you know,
Speaker 2: and when it's the one thing I hate and we
Speaker 2: already had this conversation and this just sort of recently
Speaker 2: came up. I'm like, babe, I am not your roommate.
Speaker 2: I'm not here doing the stuff together. I kind of live,
Speaker 2: you live, and we have a lot to do nah,
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Like you don't want to go on the hike with
Speaker 1: your wife and you don't want to go like do
Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: What do you mean? What's the moan?
Speaker 2: I'm just not no, no, no, I'm saying I'm not a
Speaker 2: good roommate. I'm a great partner. So everything we do
Speaker 2: we do together. I'm all up in your busy, you
Speaker 2: all up in mind, like I don't. I don't want
Speaker 2: to walk around the house kids running. She's doing her
Speaker 2: thing busy. I'm doing my thing busy. We don't even
Speaker 2: see each other passing each other, No, we pass each other.
Speaker 2: It has to be some kind of form of communication.
Speaker 2: Pinch my ass, kiss me, wow, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like wow, wow.
Speaker 2: Has to be like I don't want to come from
Speaker 2: where I am with my you know, let's say co
Speaker 2: workers right to home and feel like I have another
Speaker 2: co worker.
Speaker 1: And it's transactional you want to feel It's so funny
Speaker 1: that you say that.
Speaker 3: That's why I love that. Wow. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 2: Some people are some people a little different, like you know, yes,
Speaker 2: love and all that stuff. But I need my space.
Speaker 2: I get my space. I get my space as soon
Speaker 2: as I work out of the house, but when I'm
Speaker 2: in the house, it's it's yeah, but how.
Speaker 1: Do you command Okay, so you want that, A lot
Speaker 1: of people want unicorns. How do you both get on
Speaker 1: the same page with that? With her with the baby, Like,
Speaker 1: that's what you want? How do you get that?
Speaker 2: I think I've never wavered personally, because you're talking to me.
Speaker 2: I speak on my own behalf. I've never wavered from
Speaker 2: this sort of these standards and these things that I
Speaker 2: that I love. I couldn't really voice them before because
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure what I'm feeling. Now that I'm a
Speaker 2: dad and then experienced, you know, husband, I know what
Speaker 2: I'm feeling, and I know how I liked, how I
Speaker 2: like to feel, and so that's why now I'm able
Speaker 2: to verbalize my feelings to my partner, whom I've been
Speaker 2: with long enough. Yes, and so she now like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: back then you were acting crazy, But the reality is
Speaker 2: you just love me so much you want to be
Speaker 2: around me, you know what I mean? So like, now
Speaker 2: I get to say and now we understand each other better.
Speaker 3: This is amazing, This is amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh, I want to say I want to say it.
Speaker 2: I want to say it, so, you know how like
Speaker 2: every time, and this is one thing that I can't
Speaker 2: really verbalize just yet. I'm trying to think about this,
Speaker 2: but I call Peter one time she yet another couple
Speaker 2: breaking it off, and I'm like, Babe, this is I
Speaker 2: don't know how to voice it, but that's what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. Like when this is you know, Kumbai Ai
Speaker 2: and nice and it's beautiful and it's new and beginning
Speaker 2: and it's that like sort of honeymoon season. Everybody's crazy
Speaker 2: and we see this like you know people baggagine posting
Speaker 2: it all over again and all this stuff like this
Speaker 2: so and so and now together and it's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Two years maybe, and then they call it quits and
Speaker 2: I'm like, big, none of this is real. And she
Speaker 2: and I argue about this because she loves that, you know,
Speaker 2: the housewives, all the hoopla and everything else. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're still good together, and I'm like, no way, this is
Speaker 2: going to work. And you know that, and we see
Speaker 2: this coming, but we don't want to believe it because
Speaker 2: we live in this fairyland. So you know, now we
Speaker 2: going the year thirteen together. Wow, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: saying we we we we're now moving into like third kid.
Speaker 2: The you know, the surroundings are different, the lifestyles different,
Speaker 2: the things that with the ebbs and flows. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've come so far down and then we went all
Speaker 2: the way up and then went all the way down again.
Speaker 2: So it's like we are that couple.
Speaker 1: I need to have you on together too. I need
Speaker 1: to talk to you both together, I really do. Okay,
Speaker 1: so with.
Speaker 2: The wall between us to see if the answer is
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 1: Need to have this conversation with both of you and
Speaker 1: then when your kids are older, I need to have
Speaker 1: her for mommy and me with your kid, with your son.
Speaker 1: But okay, what about finances, Like do you have money
Speaker 1: noise now? Because I know you, You're very sensible, You're
Speaker 1: very logical. You're not a waste or you're like to
Speaker 1: know every dollar where it is. You like to be organized.
Speaker 1: That I know about you, and you get you had
Speaker 1: anxiety a couple of years ago, and you know you
Speaker 1: were getting ready for this family stage. So now you
Speaker 1: know I have three is not the same as two.
Speaker 3: And where are you with the money? In your mind?
Speaker 1: And like the security about all that, like that you're
Speaker 1: a provider, You're going to be able to be okay,
Speaker 1: and it's going to work out well.
Speaker 2: First of all, I think that, you know, for me
Speaker 2: and my masculinity and my you know, the old school
Speaker 2: traditional upbringing and all this stuff, the one thing that
Speaker 2: I had to fight within myself with is that I'm
Speaker 2: not a provider, you know. I'm a partner in providing,
Speaker 2: you know. And I have a partner who's a fucking
Speaker 2: amazing provider, you know. And so we figured out that
Speaker 2: sometimes I provide and sometimes she provides, and these sort
Speaker 2: of like it made us both feel a little bit
Speaker 2: easier about this thing because prior to and during our
Speaker 2: initial like fifty percent of us being together was spent.
Speaker 2: I have my businesses, I have my my you know, brand,
Speaker 2: I have my stuff. Peter has her things, her interests,
Speaker 2: her thinks, you know, that she wants to do. And
Speaker 2: we felt a lot of times which is sort of
Speaker 2: running this way. Yes, and now when I have a gig,
Speaker 2: she's home. That's that's me being supported. That's not her
Speaker 2: being like, okay, you know, let me wait for him
Speaker 2: to get back from work so I can go work. No,
Speaker 2: that's she's doing her thing and I'm bringing and I'm
Speaker 2: bringing stuff.
Speaker 1: You're up at the black Jack tails, but she's got
Speaker 1: half the bet.
Speaker 3: So she's like, fine, I'm sitting over here.
Speaker 2: But then we switched. But then we switched, and so
Speaker 2: we tap, and so I get back to like the background,
Speaker 2: and she's in the forefront because she's on the nice
Speaker 2: Stars and she's killing it and she's doing massive things
Speaker 2: with her business and you know her Peter Jane Beauty,
Speaker 2: Products of Booming, and you know, so I now am
Speaker 2: in the we we are in the mode of doing
Speaker 2: it together for real. So it's not like you have
Speaker 2: an account. I have an account, and we're doing our
Speaker 2: thing and then somehow, no, we do all of that,
Speaker 2: the account of this, the together account, the blood all that's.
Speaker 1: Okay, But did you do it all organized properly with
Speaker 1: either pre nup or agreements or later or or you're
Speaker 1: really old school, like do you have some version of
Speaker 1: protection for each of you? Like did you do you
Speaker 1: have an arrangement with each other about it? Like it's
Speaker 1: just like, oh, it's in the pot, it's ours and.
Speaker 2: The best way to do it, by the way, for
Speaker 2: everybody out there, if you if you you know, if
Speaker 2: you have businesses and like, for example, I have business partners,
Speaker 2: so we have clauses in our business that it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: But you know, you're not your spouse is not part
Speaker 2: of this. And you know on your personal level, yes,
Speaker 2: but within the company, it's never going to happen that
Speaker 2: somebody is coming in and sits in my in my chair, right,
Speaker 2: So those things are protecting I know that, yes, personal
Speaker 2: personal couple. So this is when I can probably open
Speaker 2: this up like this and then you might be a discussion.
Speaker 2: But you know, in the world that we live in
Speaker 2: now and the way people think of love and relationships
Speaker 2: and get together, I have people, I have friends that
Speaker 2: are so per madic, so pragmatic. So for them it
Speaker 2: was like, no, we don't want I don't want to
Speaker 2: get married, Like why you have kids you've been together
Speaker 2: for a long time, because that's institution forcing us to
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And then the money. I'm like, so
Speaker 2: hold on, you're now confusing two conversations for us with Peter.
Speaker 2: When it comes to just specifically just Max and Peter,
Speaker 2: the relationship is, in our opinion, the strongest thing that
Speaker 2: we have going on, and in our opinion has to
Speaker 2: supersede the whatever contractual obligations or you know, restrictions that
Speaker 2: on they have on each other. And so that's why
Speaker 2: we decided not to.
Speaker 3: You know, I felt that it's the ultimate trust.
Speaker 2: It's not just the ultimate trust, it's it's my partner.
Speaker 2: You know that this is my partner. And so yes,
Speaker 2: a lot of businesses fall apart and partners go their
Speaker 2: separate ways. I have that experience with family members and
Speaker 2: it was massive problem and awful issue, know when you
Speaker 2: go business into business with somebody like that, but not us.
Speaker 2: We we we this is what we want to do.
Speaker 2: We want to build the Max and Peter brand together
Speaker 2: and we are not word afraid. By the way, before
Speaker 2: this podcast, was reading something about someone else's divorced. It's
Speaker 2: crazy asking these questions because I actually just read through it.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you know, you guys, weren't it
Speaker 2: It wasn't a couple.
Speaker 3: Okay, so fertility.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that, you guys, it doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: you've experienced fertility.
Speaker 2: We had. We had. We had three miscarriages after Shy
Speaker 2: and uh between before WEO and then as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, after the last one, Peter said that's it.
Speaker 2: I'm doing ideas. And we said and I was like,
Speaker 2: this is not what I want to do. But I
Speaker 2: have you know, not a lot of say in that
Speaker 2: sense because right the time, the time, it's the time.
Speaker 2: You know, as a dude, we don't understand the time thing,
Speaker 2: you know, because I can at forty four, I feel bad.
Speaker 2: I feel better, Yeah, yeah, the clock right, I feel
Speaker 2: better now that I was ten years ago. She does too.
Speaker 2: But to have a kid in you know, late twenties
Speaker 2: and to have a kid in late thirties, it's two
Speaker 2: different things, right, And so she was feeling out like
Speaker 2: she's under pressure, you know, Shi was getting older. She
Speaker 2: doesn't understand that she and her brother have two and
Speaker 2: a half year difference. My brother and I have six
Speaker 2: year difference. We feel fine, you know, but yeah, idef
Speaker 2: was a horrible thing. That the worst part about this
Speaker 2: was that it lifted your emotions to like and now
Speaker 2: this is happening after all these miscarriages and all these
Speaker 2: you know, all of that drama went somewhere and they
Speaker 2: took asunder and they said they gave you her, and
Speaker 2: they said you're gonna be fine, We're gonna make it work,
Speaker 2: and then it just it didn't And when it didn't work,
Speaker 2: it was a matter of a phone call and zero explanation,
Speaker 2: And so for me it was little The worst experience
Speaker 2: of my life is watching her be hopefully you know,
Speaker 2: from so high up, just put down and also not
Speaker 2: explained anything the same way as everything else. So that's
Speaker 2: when she went back on this to the starts. Four
Speaker 2: weeks later we were pregnant with Rio.
Speaker 3: Is that amazing?
Speaker 1: Like letting go, letting go, letting go, allowing for it
Speaker 1: not to happen, fascinating, allowing. I hear those stories a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, we let things go. I once had a
Speaker 1: life coach. You would say, you have to allow for
Speaker 1: this to not happen and be okay if it doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: and then things do happen.
Speaker 3: It's like sort of a reverse psychology.
Speaker 1: So okay, So you've been doing a lot of different
Speaker 1: shows now like you're branching out.
Speaker 3: You did the trade or you're on the trade?
Speaker 1: Is the trader? When is the trader? It was it
Speaker 1: is what's happening with the trader?
Speaker 2: I filmed it last year in October, and so came
Speaker 2: out and it came out on Peacock on a and
Speaker 2: it just came. The season is out, and that's it.
Speaker 3: What do you think? Do you like it? Or you
Speaker 3: don't know? What you think?
Speaker 2: I said, the show is awesome. The show's great if
Speaker 2: you're into that sort of thing, you know, like you
Speaker 2: you show up to somebody's house. I said it before
Speaker 2: and they're like, today, we're going to play a couple
Speaker 2: of games, and you're like, Jesus, where am I? You know,
Speaker 2: I told you I have a couple of drinks and
Speaker 2: you know, watching you know something, and then you sit
Speaker 2: down and you're play in this mafia and then you
Speaker 2: walk out and then the drive back. I would tell
Speaker 2: people to be like, this was a lot of fun,
Speaker 2: you know, it was that it was that kind of situation.
Speaker 2: The problem is that I wanted to go home at
Speaker 2: some point and just go see the family, and you're
Speaker 2: stuck in Scotland, no phone, no communication, you full in
Speaker 2: that game. So I just had real My mind was
Speaker 2: like in a lot of different directions. But the game
Speaker 2: was cool. The game was dope. The only thing for
Speaker 2: me is that if I'm not a trader, it lost
Speaker 2: interest to me because I felt like I was sitting
Speaker 2: duck you know, so if you don't have a trader's
Speaker 2: kind of like play now, I need to focus, you know,
Speaker 2: like Dan and whoever else was a trader, like they
Speaker 2: were focused on the game. You know, when you are
Speaker 2: you know, when you're faithful, it's like you have to
Speaker 2: first of all, really wanted And I wasn't like I
Speaker 2: was just having fun. You know. There were people that
Speaker 2: were like, I'm here to win because this is what
Speaker 2: I want. My jump. I'm like, I've won other things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So for that purpose, it was great.
Speaker 3: You weren't peppermin season, were you?
Speaker 2: I was? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh I had her?
Speaker 2: I was yeah, and she she was out first, and
Speaker 2: I remember I was probably the biggest supporter. Besides this
Speaker 2: makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah she was, she was. She had a rough time.
Speaker 1: She had a rough time, all right, And so what
Speaker 1: about so you think you can dance, like, what's your
Speaker 1: dance business now?
Speaker 3: Between so you think you can dance dancing with the stars?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: What? What's your what are your projects?
Speaker 2: No more dancing with the stars, dancemo the stars. I
Speaker 2: mean it's never going to go away. I'm still probably
Speaker 2: a better relationship with dancingroom starts today than I was five,
Speaker 2: seven years ago. But the opportunity to judge, so you
Speaker 2: think you can dance is insane for us. You know,
Speaker 2: it's you are you, It's that, it's the how do
Speaker 2: you continue a profession such as dance without dancing, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's very limited. It's the judging, it's the sort
Speaker 2: of event organization. And so to be in a position
Speaker 2: that I'm in on the biggest stage, dance stage in
Speaker 2: the world. In terms of selecting a professional dancer, then
Speaker 2: SMM The Stars is different. It's formatted to be more
Speaker 2: of an entertainment show you think you can dance as
Speaker 2: an athletic decathlon for a dancer, you know, young professional
Speaker 2: who's like, I'm in it, this is I want this
Speaker 2: to be my life, and we run them through a
Speaker 2: gauntlet with the ultimate audition. This new season's completely different format.
Speaker 2: So good for audition the dances. Yeah, And so I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there and it's like a pinch me moment, like
Speaker 2: how did I end up here? After everything?
Speaker 3: So you're thrilled. This is a good time.
Speaker 2: Thrilled. Yes, the show is fantastic, The life is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Peter is incredible, My kids love my life. I can't
Speaker 2: believe how blessed we are. My dog is the best
Speaker 2: dog I've ever seen. It's like, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: You're in a good place, and Peter's a business is
Speaker 1: killing it. Send me some review it on my social media.
Speaker 1: She has to send me.
Speaker 2: Some absolutely, you know, absolutely, I'll send you everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to send it. And what's the concept?
Speaker 4: Uh, spray spray ten it's a fake ten basically. Oh
Speaker 4: it's all sprays of products. Oh okay, yeah, but it's
Speaker 4: not not all spray. But this is the way you
Speaker 4: put it on. She's got the best application.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be promoted, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: all right, but do the honest review, do the way
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of tanning in my body,
Speaker 1: but when you two get it, because it stains everything.
Speaker 3: But when you two get on and we'll talk to
Speaker 3: her about it. I just love you. I wanted to
Speaker 3: talk to you. I always want to talk to you.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that I cried to you in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the interview.
Speaker 2: But I was just feeling I woke up, I read
Speaker 2: you or I read your post, and I was like,
Speaker 2: that's that's something awesome. You know the thing that that
Speaker 2: said the most because I'm you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: some a lot of personal stuff about you in a sense,
Speaker 2: but like it's the way you voice, the way word thinks,
Speaker 2: you say it in the way that I love to
Speaker 2: say things. You you know, we get caught trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what words to use, and and and in
Speaker 2: that moment, the message gets diluted and it sounds like
Speaker 2: television message, like you know, when they were when they
Speaker 2: use the same words to describe.
Speaker 3: It, it's just syntic.
Speaker 2: For a while, it just turns into bullshit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the way you said it, like the ten year
Speaker 2: divorced after two year marriage, I was like, damn, damn,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like it's kind of like five
Speaker 2: minutes of fun and then you got this whole drama
Speaker 2: going on afterwards. And then and then right before that,
Speaker 2: I'm watching, you know, this is that sort of morning
Speaker 2: scroll five minutes scroll right there. I saw also Channing
Speaker 2: Tatum and Jenna doing they still going through it. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I thought they were married to other people already twice this.
Speaker 1: And Kelly Clarkson, No, this is gonna I get stopped
Speaker 1: on the street by people because I am an expert
Speaker 1: on this topic, unfortunately, and I finally figured out that
Speaker 1: I just was gonna it wasn't even a plan.
Speaker 3: For years, I've been talking.
Speaker 1: About doing a Divorced podcast, but not with me talking
Speaker 1: about my story, just the experts, because it's such a
Speaker 1: space people asking me about and I don't know why. Literally,
Speaker 1: that's why iHeart is great. It was a week it
Speaker 1: was a week ago. I was just sitting in front
Speaker 1: of the mic. I'm like, you know, I just want
Speaker 1: to talk about something like it was nothing like it
Speaker 1: was like I want to order milk, you know, And
Speaker 1: I just started talking and it just started flying out.
Speaker 1: And then it's been I can't wait to talk about
Speaker 1: it now after this, not because I'm excited, but because
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a poison inside my body that
Speaker 1: I now need to get out. And it's just I
Speaker 1: keep remembering these things that I've stuffed down because they
Speaker 1: were so traumatic, and so I'm talking about it because
Speaker 1: people are really can't handle this.
Speaker 3: And it's not the wealthy people.
Speaker 1: It's the people that have no money, no resources, and
Speaker 1: they are completely powerless. So I'm I'm going all the
Speaker 1: way in on it now. So anyway, that's why I
Speaker 1: was crying.
Speaker 2: All the way in. You have to because this is
Speaker 2: now like sort of situation with with young adults that
Speaker 2: I see again around me.
Speaker 3: They want the fairy tale.
Speaker 2: I circle they want.
Speaker 3: They think they're going to get the fairy tale.
Speaker 2: But the other flip side of it is because they
Speaker 2: see all this nonsense.
Speaker 3: Well shit, we're in the same day.
Speaker 2: The girls still want the fairy tale. The guys are
Speaker 2: now like I don't want anything to do with the
Speaker 2: with the institution of marriage. I'm like, bro, when do
Speaker 2: we lose the sight of romance? And when everything become
Speaker 2: so monetized, you know, institution of this. But you know,
Speaker 2: for me and for us, it's a.
Speaker 1: Fear based thing though because it is a contract, it's
Speaker 1: a whole We'll talk more soon. I love you and
Speaker 1: I and and tell the kids and your wife. I
Speaker 1: said hello, yes, thank you, Thanks Max. I'm always here
Speaker 1: for you whatever you mean.
Speaker 2: You so much for having me and uh and keep
Speaker 2: keep crying. You look good.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Bye bye,