1 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So I love you. I'm excited to speak to you. 2 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm so tired and like a little off today. 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: I see you, I see everything. I'm like, you're tired. 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: I'd be exhausted from just doing what you're doing. 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of liberating. But I'm a little tired and activated. 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: But like hearing you, know, knowing that I was speaking 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: to you this morning, I was excited because I just 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel a connection to you. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: I really we like each other. I like you. We 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: get it, you know, I like you very person. 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: It's mutual, no be I love you. You're amazing, and 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: we've done stuff and I could see you do things, 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: and you know, I really have to say, it's the consistency. 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: You know, I'm the same person twenty years later. It 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: feels like you're the same chick all these years. And 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: you say stuff that's yours, you stand by it, you 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: stand on your business, and no matter what. It's very 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: It's admirable. People fluctuate nowadays to many too much. 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, Oh my god, you're like Oprah, I'm about 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: to cry. You're like Barbara Walters. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: I'm just having an emotional morning. It's weird. And I'm 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: like about to cry now what you're saying and everything. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: You're good, You're good listen, but it's uh yeah, it's 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: the it's the thing that you know. For me, everything 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: that we do is so under the microscope. And you know, 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: Peter is very sensitive to these things. You know, I 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: feel like I have a thicker skin. I'm sensitive to 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: people in my own circle, so they think I'm sensitive Sally, 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: but outside people feel like he doesn't really care much. 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: I care too much, you know, I just don't let it. 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: I know you're very emotional here, you're emotional. I'm just 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: I just I think this is all coming out of 33 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: me right now. But I don't feel we are doing 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: this in front of you because I love you. Okay, 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: I love this. I love this, all right, how's Peter. 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: You guys seem like, I mean listening social media as bullshit, 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: but like I love when you guys are dancing, and 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: I think like you have an honest way of doing 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: the social media about announcing the baby, like it's just 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: like it's really. 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: Genuine, it's really loving. I love this. 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: So how is this whole dynamic of you guys with 43 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: social media and like doing these dance performances and like 44 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: all that stuff. 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: Everybody's thinking that, oh, you guys dance all the time. No, 46 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: we don't live with life all the time. You know, 47 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: dance comes comes the same way as it comes to 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: everybody else's life. You know, dance is my job. But 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: you know, in between, it's tough social media. You know. 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: We sat down with Peter. I'm being very honest. I'm 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: not the guy for this thing, you know, and so 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: for me, in order for this to work, I need, 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: first of all, consistency. I'm a capricorn with OCD. I 54 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: need this to be set, like what are we doing 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: and how long we're doing this for? 56 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: You mean, like you have to know, like Tuesday, we're 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: doing the dance. I'll learn it. We're going next to 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: the trailers and we're going to do that. 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: We're doing this right, We're doing this once twice a week? 60 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: Is this set up for these type of shoots? I 61 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: want to make sure that it's pre set, pre planned? 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: Peter is the type. Why are you being so dramatically? 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: Just do it? 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool. So we said at twelve months, 65 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: you know, twelve months kind of like system, right. I 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: created this system of filming and managing our life and 67 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: doing stuff. So make sure that if we start that 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: we continue. And again there's that consistency and everything. And 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: twelve months later we sat down, We're like, we're being 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: extremely successful. This was two years ago. 71 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 72 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: Well, she's doing her mom tent. Well, she's in the 73 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: kitchen and making fun of you and I love that stuff. 74 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: And then you have like then you're the two of 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: us are dancing, and then your kids dancing. So this 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: looks like it's just like happened. But obviously those dances 77 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: are somewhat complicated sometimes. So yeah, how do you define 78 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: that it's been successful? You're getting grand deals, you're making money, 79 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: the actual contents making money. 80 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: What is successful? 81 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because so for us, this is either waste of 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: time and I focus all my energy somewhere that is 83 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: not or I make the most out of it. To 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: make the most out of this, we had a number 85 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: that Peter was casually doing a year before social media 86 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: money coming in, and that number was was a number, 87 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: and we sat down and I looked at it and 88 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, so I want to scale it. 89 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: Let's see if we can. And so we set a 90 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: twelve month system, and a year later that number tripled, 91 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: and so I was like, great, this is working. Now 92 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: let's do it for real. And so that was our 93 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: last year and our number went up again. And so 94 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: you know, the reality here is this twofold number one. 95 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: Everything you see is real. You know the dances that 96 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: we do. I'm not gonna lie to you. It may 97 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: have taken ten minutes, and we may have done it 98 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: twice and twice as if it's like baby, I really 99 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: don't like it, and let's do it again. Otherwise you 100 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: see what you get because that's the reality. But the fundamentally, 101 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: the first thing that happened is when Peter and I 102 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: looked at each other and said, this is cute, but 103 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: what is it that we're doing. We had to sit down, 104 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: come to Jesus with the social media and say, look, 105 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: you can talk about how private you are and how 106 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: you don't let things out, but you got an Instagram 107 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: account with on point some million and you putting out 108 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: twenty stories a day. But you being a hypocrite, you know. 109 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: So we decided to keep this this way, but we 110 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: control the narrative. You're not gonna paparazzi me outside and 111 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: see me in sort of like a disheveled look, because 112 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put that shit on social media myself and 113 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: it will be part of my video. 114 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: No, I get you're direct to consumer, direct to consumer content. 115 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: And also you don't owe anybody you just like everybody 116 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: that's watching it. It's also on TikTok or Instagram. They're 117 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: not telling you how many times a week they're having 118 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: sex or what the financial problems are. Like, You're not 119 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: paid anymore to share your life. You're not on Dancing 120 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: with the Stars regularly as a character that's paid to 121 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: share your life. I'm not on the housewise. 122 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, there is the responsibility. Is 123 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: this the responsibilities that we don't like you? You see 124 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: what we do and you see us. Yeah, now I'm 125 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: not gonna post a video of me crying and talking 126 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: about my my issues. No, I'm gonna give you as 127 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: much as I willing to give you. But what I'm 128 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: giving you is real, you know. But the reality is 129 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: that the people you're looking at that you sort of 130 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: you know, mimicking your life after and you're like, this 131 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: is this is the kind of family I want to be? 132 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: The reality is thirty percent of their stuff that their 133 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: show and seventy percent is alive. You don't know what 134 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: their life is. And we see that, and we see 135 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: these superstar couples, celebrity couples, the social media celebrity couples 136 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: that are all of a sudden five seven years of 137 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: successful family business and how beautiful they are, and now 138 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: they're they're divorced. They've never even liked this. Yeah, they 139 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: have this nasty situation and so like, were you lying 140 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: then or is this kind of you know what I mean? 141 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: It's well no, that's why it's you can't say respect 142 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: our privacy during his time because you brought us into 143 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: the perfect fairy tale. It's like the Jennifer Lopez A 144 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: Rod thing was like, oh my god, like look at 145 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: them and they're both from similar cultures and they both 146 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: have two kids and they're in love and they're doing 147 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: all of the under fiftieth birthday and it was all 148 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: like so amazing, and then all of a sudden, one day, 149 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: it just crashes and burns. She's now with Ben and 150 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: we're and no one's supposed to be asking any questions. 151 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: Or like wait, what wa whoa what you know? 152 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: Because it was perfect but you can't blame quote unquote 153 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: trolls for trolling when you brought them into the fairy tale. 154 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: If you don't bring them into the fairy tale, then 155 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: like George Clooney and them all, don't bring people into 156 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: the fairy tale, and they don't have to bring people 157 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: into anything else that goes on, like some people do 158 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: it really well. 159 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: So anyway, we agree to agree. 160 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: What's going on with your family in Ukraine, the situation, 161 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: you're feeling about it, you're feeling about the criticism about 162 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: it overall, like the shift, people don't pay attention to 163 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: it anymore. It's not a cool relief effort anymore. Like 164 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: what about that? 165 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: Okay, My perspective is that it's a stalemate and it's 166 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: somebody's political games and it's always been that, But there 167 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: was a moment when it was about people standing up 168 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: and watching people really stand up for what they believe 169 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: in their you know, their livelihood. Not only but they're 170 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: they're you know, they're thing like the culture. I mean, 171 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: do you defend a nation nationality? 172 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: Right? So that was the underdog and as an underdog, 173 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: all of that. 174 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: All of that and as an underdog and everything else, 175 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: and now Obviously the situation with Israel is shook things up. Obviously, 176 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: you know how much of all of that is happening 177 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: around the world is very difficult for Ukraine. But the 178 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: reality is that, you know, it's it's gonna all of 179 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: these things will come to an end. I would just 180 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: hate it to be at the expense of Ukraine, you know, 181 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: and Ukrainian people, and and so and so I'm still 182 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: very much supporting the actions of you know, defending the 183 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: actions of getting the lend back if there's an opportunity 184 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: for that. But I will not be the guy to say, hey, 185 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: let's sacrifice you know, the rest of this youth, you know, 186 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: because it's not the same sacrifice on both sides. I'm 187 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: not down with that because it seems to me like this, 188 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: this this generation is almost like, you know, you're doomed, 189 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because we're going to keep 190 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: throwing you at the front line until we'll figure out 191 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: what we're doing. And so I saw a video from 192 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: somebody from front and again on all those telegram channels, 193 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and you see a lot 194 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: of stuff coming in still and you're seeing these people 195 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: from frontline recording videos like we're not your chess pieces. 196 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: You know, this isn't one hundred and fifty years ago. 197 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 2: This is a completely different society we live in and 198 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: so we're not here to be pawned while you guys 199 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: figure out politics of it all. So right, you know, 200 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: it's horrible, it's terrible. But the worst part is this 201 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: is that we kept talking about a year ago, like, oh, 202 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: when these guys come back, we have to rehab and 203 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: rehabilitate and everything else. Well, these guys have been coming back. 204 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: I have I have dances of mine that I've judged on, 205 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: these dance shows that have been in the front line, 206 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: that returned to Kiev and looked around and they were 207 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: not able to reassimilate into the society. They said, you 208 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna go back. And the case in 209 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: point is one gentleman he came back. He's a young man, 210 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: his brilliant future is a dancer. He came back said 211 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: this isn't for me. I don't understand this. I don't 212 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: judge anybody. I don't understand how the nightclubs open and 213 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: restaurants and everything else in the center while we're defending 214 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: that center somewhere else, so he went back and he's 215 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: never come back. 216 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: How is your family? 217 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: The family is great. The family is great. My parents 218 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: moved to LA. We're finally all together, and all of 219 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: a sudden there's just grandkids all over the place. So 220 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: we're doing that thing. 221 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: What was your goal? How many kids did you want 222 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: to have? 223 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: The men look like we have goals when these things happen. 224 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean, if a man says I want seven kids, 225 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, listen, bro, it's not really about you for 226 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: that matter. You know what I mean? Like, you can 227 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: have dreams. I dream of being happy and everybody being 228 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: satisfied with their life, and I want to provide for 229 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: everybody if it's five, because I can't break. I'm now 230 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: past the point of everything I knew before. I just 231 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: knew two kids in the family, and my brother and 232 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: I grew up this way. You know a lot of 233 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: people that I looked at people with three and more 234 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: as like, you guys are crazy? What are you right? 235 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: So you are the three family? You're going to be 236 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: the three family? Now are you? First of all, do 237 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: you guys have a lot of sex? 238 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: You don't have to answer, but are you guys very 239 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: sexual and who who's the initiative, who wants who's the 240 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: one who's like you really. 241 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: Both but also like she spent a bunch of years 242 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: pregnant and post pregnant and another We've dealt with things, 243 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: but we try, we try not to pause. And you know, 244 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: with her situations and the the randomness of it. I mean, like, 245 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: if she feels some kind of way and it's like 246 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: two thirty in the afternoon and I'm in the middle 247 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: of stuff, just let me know, let me know, I can, 248 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, we we'll figure it out. 249 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: But I'm just a very regular guy, but who's very, 250 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: very healthy and maintains very you know, like various. I 251 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: keep my levels up, you know what I mean. So 252 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: and so is she and so we are that couple. Yes, kids, yes, no, 253 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of stuff going on. But when 254 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: it's us together, all of this makes sense, you know, 255 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: and when it's the one thing I hate and we 256 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: already had this conversation and this just sort of recently 257 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: came up. I'm like, babe, I am not your roommate. 258 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: I'm not here doing the stuff together. I kind of live, 259 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: you live, and we have a lot to do nah, 260 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm here. 261 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 262 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: Like you don't want to go on the hike with 263 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: your wife and you don't want to go like do 264 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff. 265 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: What do you mean? What's the moan? 266 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm just not no, no, no, I'm saying I'm not a 267 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: good roommate. I'm a great partner. So everything we do 268 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: we do together. I'm all up in your busy, you 269 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: all up in mind, like I don't. I don't want 270 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: to walk around the house kids running. She's doing her 271 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: thing busy. I'm doing my thing busy. We don't even 272 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: see each other passing each other, No, we pass each other. 273 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 2: It has to be some kind of form of communication. 274 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: Pinch my ass, kiss me, wow, you know what I mean? 275 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: Like wow, wow. 276 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: Has to be like I don't want to come from 277 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: where I am with my you know, let's say co 278 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: workers right to home and feel like I have another 279 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: co worker. 280 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: And it's transactional you want to feel It's so funny 281 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: that you say that. 282 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: That's why I love that. Wow. Yeah, amazing. 283 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: Some people are some people a little different, like you know, yes, 284 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: love and all that stuff. But I need my space. 285 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: I get my space. I get my space as soon 286 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: as I work out of the house, but when I'm 287 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: in the house, it's it's yeah, but how. 288 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: Do you command Okay, so you want that, A lot 289 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: of people want unicorns. How do you both get on 290 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: the same page with that? With her with the baby, Like, 291 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: that's what you want? How do you get that? 292 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: I think I've never wavered personally, because you're talking to me. 293 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: I speak on my own behalf. I've never wavered from 294 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: this sort of these standards and these things that I 295 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: that I love. I couldn't really voice them before because 296 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure what I'm feeling. Now that I'm a 297 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: dad and then experienced, you know, husband, I know what 298 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm feeling, and I know how I liked, how I 299 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: like to feel, and so that's why now I'm able 300 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: to verbalize my feelings to my partner, whom I've been 301 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: with long enough. Yes, and so she now like, oh, yeah, 302 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: back then you were acting crazy, But the reality is 303 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: you just love me so much you want to be 304 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: around me, you know what I mean? So like, now 305 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: I get to say and now we understand each other better. 306 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: This is amazing, This is amazing. 307 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I want to say I want to say it. 308 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: I want to say it, so, you know how like 309 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: every time, and this is one thing that I can't 310 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: really verbalize just yet. I'm trying to think about this, 311 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: but I call Peter one time she yet another couple 312 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: breaking it off, and I'm like, Babe, this is I 313 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: don't know how to voice it, but that's what I'm 314 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: talking about. Like when this is you know, Kumbai Ai 315 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: and nice and it's beautiful and it's new and beginning 316 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: and it's that like sort of honeymoon season. Everybody's crazy 317 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: and we see this like you know people baggagine posting 318 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: it all over again and all this stuff like this 319 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: so and so and now together and it's so beautiful. 320 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: Two years maybe, and then they call it quits and 321 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, big, none of this is real. And she 322 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: and I argue about this because she loves that, you know, 323 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: the housewives, all the hoopla and everything else. It's like, yeah, 324 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: they're still good together, and I'm like, no way, this is 325 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: going to work. And you know that, and we see 326 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: this coming, but we don't want to believe it because 327 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: we live in this fairyland. So you know, now we 328 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: going the year thirteen together. Wow, you know what I'm 329 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: saying we we we we're now moving into like third kid. 330 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: The you know, the surroundings are different, the lifestyles different, 331 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: the things that with the ebbs and flows. I mean, 332 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: we've come so far down and then we went all 333 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: the way up and then went all the way down again. 334 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: So it's like we are that couple. 335 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: I need to have you on together too. I need 336 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: to talk to you both together, I really do. Okay, 337 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: so with. 338 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: The wall between us to see if the answer is 339 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: I just. 340 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: Need to have this conversation with both of you and 341 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: then when your kids are older, I need to have 342 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: her for mommy and me with your kid, with your son. 343 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: But okay, what about finances, Like do you have money 344 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: noise now? Because I know you, You're very sensible, You're 345 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: very logical. You're not a waste or you're like to 346 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: know every dollar where it is. You like to be organized. 347 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: That I know about you, and you get you had 348 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: anxiety a couple of years ago, and you know you 349 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: were getting ready for this family stage. So now you 350 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: know I have three is not the same as two. 351 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: And where are you with the money? In your mind? 352 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: And like the security about all that, like that you're 353 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: a provider, You're going to be able to be okay, 354 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: and it's going to work out well. 355 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: First of all, I think that, you know, for me 356 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: and my masculinity and my you know, the old school 357 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: traditional upbringing and all this stuff, the one thing that 358 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: I had to fight within myself with is that I'm 359 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: not a provider, you know. I'm a partner in providing, 360 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: you know. And I have a partner who's a fucking 361 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: amazing provider, you know. And so we figured out that 362 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: sometimes I provide and sometimes she provides, and these sort 363 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: of like it made us both feel a little bit 364 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: easier about this thing because prior to and during our 365 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: initial like fifty percent of us being together was spent. 366 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: I have my businesses, I have my my you know, brand, 367 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: I have my stuff. Peter has her things, her interests, 368 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: her thinks, you know, that she wants to do. And 369 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: we felt a lot of times which is sort of 370 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: running this way. Yes, and now when I have a gig, 371 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: she's home. That's that's me being supported. That's not her 372 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: being like, okay, you know, let me wait for him 373 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: to get back from work so I can go work. No, 374 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: that's she's doing her thing and I'm bringing and I'm 375 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: bringing stuff. 376 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: You're up at the black Jack tails, but she's got 377 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: half the bet. 378 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: So she's like, fine, I'm sitting over here. 379 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: But then we switched. But then we switched, and so 380 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: we tap, and so I get back to like the background, 381 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: and she's in the forefront because she's on the nice 382 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: Stars and she's killing it and she's doing massive things 383 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 2: with her business and you know her Peter Jane Beauty, 384 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: Products of Booming, and you know, so I now am 385 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: in the we we are in the mode of doing 386 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: it together for real. So it's not like you have 387 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: an account. I have an account, and we're doing our 388 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: thing and then somehow, no, we do all of that, 389 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: the account of this, the together account, the blood all that's. 390 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: Okay, But did you do it all organized properly with 391 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: either pre nup or agreements or later or or you're 392 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: really old school, like do you have some version of 393 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: protection for each of you? Like did you do you 394 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: have an arrangement with each other about it? Like it's 395 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: just like, oh, it's in the pot, it's ours and. 396 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: The best way to do it, by the way, for 397 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: everybody out there, if you if you you know, if 398 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: you have businesses and like, for example, I have business partners, 399 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: so we have clauses in our business that it doesn't matter. 400 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: But you know, you're not your spouse is not part 401 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: of this. And you know on your personal level, yes, 402 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: but within the company, it's never going to happen that 403 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: somebody is coming in and sits in my in my chair, right, 404 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: So those things are protecting I know that, yes, personal 405 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: personal couple. So this is when I can probably open 406 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: this up like this and then you might be a discussion. 407 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: But you know, in the world that we live in 408 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: now and the way people think of love and relationships 409 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: and get together, I have people, I have friends that 410 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: are so per madic, so pragmatic. So for them it 411 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: was like, no, we don't want I don't want to 412 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: get married, Like why you have kids you've been together 413 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: for a long time, because that's institution forcing us to 414 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And then the money. I'm like, so 415 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: hold on, you're now confusing two conversations for us with Peter. 416 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: When it comes to just specifically just Max and Peter, 417 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: the relationship is, in our opinion, the strongest thing that 418 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 2: we have going on, and in our opinion has to 419 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: supersede the whatever contractual obligations or you know, restrictions that 420 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: on they have on each other. And so that's why 421 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: we decided not to. 422 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: You know, I felt that it's the ultimate trust. 423 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: It's not just the ultimate trust, it's it's my partner. 424 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: You know that this is my partner. And so yes, 425 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: a lot of businesses fall apart and partners go their 426 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: separate ways. I have that experience with family members and 427 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: it was massive problem and awful issue, know when you 428 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: go business into business with somebody like that, but not us. 429 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 2: We we we this is what we want to do. 430 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: We want to build the Max and Peter brand together 431 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: and we are not word afraid. By the way, before 432 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: this podcast, was reading something about someone else's divorced. It's 433 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: crazy asking these questions because I actually just read through it. 434 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you know, you guys, weren't it 435 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: It wasn't a couple. 436 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: Okay, so fertility. 437 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that, you guys, it doesn't seem like 438 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: you've experienced fertility. 439 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: We had. We had. We had three miscarriages after Shy 440 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: and uh between before WEO and then as a matter 441 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: of fact, after the last one, Peter said that's it. 442 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: I'm doing ideas. And we said and I was like, 443 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: this is not what I want to do. But I 444 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: have you know, not a lot of say in that 445 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: sense because right the time, the time, it's the time. 446 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: You know, as a dude, we don't understand the time thing, 447 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 2: you know, because I can at forty four, I feel bad. 448 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: I feel better, Yeah, yeah, the clock right, I feel 449 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: better now that I was ten years ago. She does too. 450 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: But to have a kid in you know, late twenties 451 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: and to have a kid in late thirties, it's two 452 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: different things, right, And so she was feeling out like 453 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: she's under pressure, you know, Shi was getting older. She 454 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: doesn't understand that she and her brother have two and 455 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: a half year difference. My brother and I have six 456 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: year difference. We feel fine, you know, but yeah, idef 457 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: was a horrible thing. That the worst part about this 458 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: was that it lifted your emotions to like and now 459 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: this is happening after all these miscarriages and all these 460 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: you know, all of that drama went somewhere and they 461 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: took asunder and they said they gave you her, and 462 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: they said you're gonna be fine, We're gonna make it work, 463 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: and then it just it didn't And when it didn't work, 464 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: it was a matter of a phone call and zero explanation, 465 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: And so for me it was little The worst experience 466 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: of my life is watching her be hopefully you know, 467 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: from so high up, just put down and also not 468 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: explained anything the same way as everything else. So that's 469 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: when she went back on this to the starts. Four 470 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: weeks later we were pregnant with Rio. 471 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: Is that amazing? 472 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: Like letting go, letting go, letting go, allowing for it 473 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: not to happen, fascinating, allowing. I hear those stories a lot, 474 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, we let things go. I once had a 475 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: life coach. You would say, you have to allow for 476 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: this to not happen and be okay if it doesn't happen, 477 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: and then things do happen. 478 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: It's like sort of a reverse psychology. 479 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: So okay, So you've been doing a lot of different 480 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: shows now like you're branching out. 481 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: You did the trade or you're on the trade? 482 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: Is the trader? When is the trader? It was it 483 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: is what's happening with the trader? 484 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: I filmed it last year in October, and so came 485 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: out and it came out on Peacock on a and 486 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 2: it just came. The season is out, and that's it. 487 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: What do you think? Do you like it? Or you 488 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: don't know? What you think? 489 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: I said, the show is awesome. The show's great if 490 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: you're into that sort of thing, you know, like you 491 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: you show up to somebody's house. I said it before 492 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: and they're like, today, we're going to play a couple 493 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: of games, and you're like, Jesus, where am I? You know, 494 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: I told you I have a couple of drinks and 495 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, watching you know something, and then you sit 496 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: down and you're play in this mafia and then you 497 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: walk out and then the drive back. I would tell 498 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: people to be like, this was a lot of fun, 499 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: you know, it was that it was that kind of situation. 500 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: The problem is that I wanted to go home at 501 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: some point and just go see the family, and you're 502 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: stuck in Scotland, no phone, no communication, you full in 503 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: that game. So I just had real My mind was 504 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: like in a lot of different directions. But the game 505 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: was cool. The game was dope. The only thing for 506 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: me is that if I'm not a trader, it lost 507 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: interest to me because I felt like I was sitting 508 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: duck you know, so if you don't have a trader's 509 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: kind of like play now, I need to focus, you know, 510 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: like Dan and whoever else was a trader, like they 511 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: were focused on the game. You know, when you are 512 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: you know, when you're faithful, it's like you have to 513 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: first of all, really wanted And I wasn't like I 514 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: was just having fun. You know. There were people that 515 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 2: were like, I'm here to win because this is what 516 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: I want. My jump. I'm like, I've won other things. 517 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 518 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: So for that purpose, it was great. 519 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 3: You weren't peppermin season, were you? 520 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: I was? Yeah? 521 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: Oh I had her? 522 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: I was yeah, and she she was out first, and 523 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: I remember I was probably the biggest supporter. Besides this 524 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: makes no sense. 525 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah she was, she was. She had a rough time. 526 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: She had a rough time, all right, And so what 527 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: about so you think you can dance, like, what's your 528 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: dance business now? 529 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: Between so you think you can dance dancing with the stars? 530 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: What? 531 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: What? What's your what are your projects? 532 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: No more dancing with the stars, dancemo the stars. I 533 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: mean it's never going to go away. I'm still probably 534 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: a better relationship with dancingroom starts today than I was five, 535 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: seven years ago. But the opportunity to judge, so you 536 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: think you can dance is insane for us. You know, 537 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: it's you are you, It's that, it's the how do 538 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: you continue a profession such as dance without dancing, you know, 539 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: and it's very limited. It's the judging, it's the sort 540 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: of event organization. And so to be in a position 541 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: that I'm in on the biggest stage, dance stage in 542 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 2: the world. In terms of selecting a professional dancer, then 543 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: SMM The Stars is different. It's formatted to be more 544 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: of an entertainment show you think you can dance as 545 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: an athletic decathlon for a dancer, you know, young professional 546 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 2: who's like, I'm in it, this is I want this 547 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: to be my life, and we run them through a 548 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: gauntlet with the ultimate audition. This new season's completely different format. 549 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: So good for audition the dances. Yeah, And so I'm 550 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: sitting there and it's like a pinch me moment, like 551 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: how did I end up here? After everything? 552 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: So you're thrilled. This is a good time. 553 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: Thrilled. Yes, the show is fantastic, The life is fantastic. 554 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: Peter is incredible, My kids love my life. I can't 555 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: believe how blessed we are. My dog is the best 556 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: dog I've ever seen. It's like, it's beautiful. 557 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: You're in a good place, and Peter's a business is 558 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: killing it. Send me some review it on my social media. 559 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: She has to send me. 560 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: Some absolutely, you know, absolutely, I'll send you everything. 561 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to send it. And what's the concept? 562 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 4: Uh, spray spray ten it's a fake ten basically. Oh 563 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: it's all sprays of products. Oh okay, yeah, but it's 564 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: not not all spray. But this is the way you 565 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 4: put it on. She's got the best application. 566 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be promoted, you know what I'm saying, 567 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: all right, but do the honest review, do the way 568 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: you do. 569 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of tanning in my body, 570 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: but when you two get it, because it stains everything. 571 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: But when you two get on and we'll talk to 572 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: her about it. I just love you. I wanted to 573 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: talk to you. I always want to talk to you. 574 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: And I'm glad that I cried to you in the 575 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: beginning of the interview. 576 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: But I was just feeling I woke up, I read 577 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: you or I read your post, and I was like, 578 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: that's that's something awesome. You know the thing that that 579 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: said the most because I'm you know, I don't know 580 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: some a lot of personal stuff about you in a sense, 581 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: but like it's the way you voice, the way word thinks, 582 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: you say it in the way that I love to 583 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: say things. You you know, we get caught trying to 584 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 2: figure out what words to use, and and and in 585 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: that moment, the message gets diluted and it sounds like 586 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: television message, like you know, when they were when they 587 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: use the same words to describe. 588 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: It, it's just syntic. 589 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: For a while, it just turns into bullshit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 590 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: So the way you said it, like the ten year 591 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: divorced after two year marriage, I was like, damn, damn, 592 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: you know, and it's like it's kind of like five 593 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: minutes of fun and then you got this whole drama 594 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: going on afterwards. And then and then right before that, 595 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm watching, you know, this is that sort of morning 596 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 2: scroll five minutes scroll right there. I saw also Channing 597 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: Tatum and Jenna doing they still going through it. I'm like, 598 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: I thought they were married to other people already twice this. 599 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: And Kelly Clarkson, No, this is gonna I get stopped 600 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: on the street by people because I am an expert 601 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: on this topic, unfortunately, and I finally figured out that 602 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: I just was gonna it wasn't even a plan. 603 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: For years, I've been talking. 604 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: About doing a Divorced podcast, but not with me talking 605 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: about my story, just the experts, because it's such a 606 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: space people asking me about and I don't know why. Literally, 607 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: that's why iHeart is great. It was a week it 608 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: was a week ago. I was just sitting in front 609 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: of the mic. I'm like, you know, I just want 610 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: to talk about something like it was nothing like it 611 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: was like I want to order milk, you know, And 612 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: I just started talking and it just started flying out. 613 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: And then it's been I can't wait to talk about 614 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: it now after this, not because I'm excited, but because 615 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a poison inside my body that 616 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: I now need to get out. And it's just I 617 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: keep remembering these things that I've stuffed down because they 618 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: were so traumatic, and so I'm talking about it because 619 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: people are really can't handle this. 620 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: And it's not the wealthy people. 621 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: It's the people that have no money, no resources, and 622 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: they are completely powerless. So I'm I'm going all the 623 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: way in on it now. So anyway, that's why I 624 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: was crying. 625 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: All the way in. You have to because this is 626 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: now like sort of situation with with young adults that 627 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: I see again around me. 628 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: They want the fairy tale. 629 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: I circle they want. 630 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: They think they're going to get the fairy tale. 631 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: But the other flip side of it is because they 632 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: see all this nonsense. 633 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: Well shit, we're in the same day. 634 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: The girls still want the fairy tale. The guys are 635 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: now like I don't want anything to do with the 636 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: with the institution of marriage. I'm like, bro, when do 637 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: we lose the sight of romance? And when everything become 638 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: so monetized, you know, institution of this. But you know, 639 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: for me and for us, it's a. 640 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: Fear based thing though because it is a contract, it's 641 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: a whole We'll talk more soon. I love you and 642 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: I and and tell the kids and your wife. I 643 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: said hello, yes, thank you, Thanks Max. I'm always here 644 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: for you whatever you mean. 645 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: You so much for having me and uh and keep 646 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: keep crying. You look good. 647 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: Thank you. Bye bye,