Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdic with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
Speaker 1: with you. It was a blowout center in the Hawkeye state.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump wins the Iowa caucuses and no unstated terms,
Speaker 1: it was a landslide. It was an incredible victory for him,
Speaker 1: and that brings us to something else. It also is
Speaker 1: going to be a really big deal for vertical listeners.
Speaker 1: You have something big to talk about right now.
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. So you and I are sitting here.
Speaker 2: It is ten twenty six pm on Tuesday. This podcast
Speaker 2: will come out early Wednesday morning, so we're a day
Speaker 2: after Iowa listen. The results in Iowa were extraordinary. Iowa
Speaker 2: was hotly contested. The candidates spent a lot of time there.
Speaker 2: They vigorously fought, and the results were dominating. Trump won everywhere.
Speaker 2: He won over fifty one percent of the vote. He
Speaker 2: beat his closest competitor, Ron De Santis by over thirty points.
Speaker 2: He won ninety eight out of ninety nine Iowa counties.
Speaker 2: The only county lost is the most liberal county in Iowa,
Speaker 2: and he lost that vote that that county by a vote.
Speaker 2: It was as dominating a result as that there has
Speaker 2: ever been in the Iowa caucus in anything resembling an
Speaker 2: open caucus. As a result tonight, earlier tonight, I went
Speaker 2: on Seohan Hannity and on Hannity, I have endorsed Donald J.
Speaker 2: Trump for President of the United States, and I did
Speaker 2: so because the results of Iowa are overwhelming and I
Speaker 2: believe in democracy. I deliberately stat out of this race
Speaker 2: until after the people of Iowa voted, and the reason
Speaker 2: is we had a contested race. I am friends with
Speaker 2: multiple candidates in this race. I believe the voters out
Speaker 2: to determine who our nominee is.
Speaker 3: Well they have.
Speaker 2: The results were compelling, and so as a result, I
Speaker 2: have enthusiasmstically and endorse Donald Trump. I think it is
Speaker 2: time for the party to come together. It is time
Speaker 2: for us to unite because the stakes are so incredibly high.
Speaker 2: I believe at this point it is clear who our
Speaker 2: nominee is going to be. Donald Trump is going to
Speaker 2: be the Republican nominee, and I think it's critical we
Speaker 2: win in November. Listen, the forces that are a rayed
Speaker 2: against Donald Trump have never been a raid against any
Speaker 2: candidate in the history of our nation. It is extraordinary.
Speaker 2: Foreign indictments, the media, the corruption. It is breathtaking now. Frankly,
Speaker 2: the Democrats who indicted Donald Trump played a real role
Speaker 2: in giving him this overwhelming victory in Iowa. And so
Speaker 2: every one of them when we're sitting here on January
Speaker 2: twentieth of next year at President Trump's second inauguration, they
Speaker 2: ought to pause and reflect on the pivotal role they
Speaker 2: played in making this happen. That being said, Joe Biden
Speaker 2: and the Democrats have been a disaster for our nation.
Speaker 2: The American people are hurting, the people of Texas are hurting,
Speaker 2: and we need to change the path we're on. And
Speaker 2: so I've endorsed Trump because I enthusiastically want President Trump
Speaker 2: to win in November. I want us to change the
Speaker 2: path we're on, and we need to work to make
Speaker 2: that happen.
Speaker 1: You look at how decisive this victory was, and I
Speaker 1: want to just really get into the minutia this for
Speaker 1: a second. Trump got more votes in Iowa than Rohnda
Speaker 1: Santasniki Hale, and Vivek combined. That was such a strong message.
Speaker 1: He also didn't do any of the televised debates, and
Speaker 1: that's where I was looking at this and seeing it
Speaker 1: and going this is a clear message, I think to
Speaker 1: Joe Biden and to the Democratic Party that you can
Speaker 1: come after Donald Trump. You can come after him in
Speaker 1: legal terms. You can get mug shots of him, you
Speaker 1: can put things on him that are egregious and absurd.
Speaker 1: You can have rogue and disgusting prosecutors like we've witnessed
Speaker 1: in Georgia for example, And it's not scaring voters away
Speaker 1: from Donald Trump. How much of an important aspect of
Speaker 1: this victory do you think dealt with that that they said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to take him off the ballot Colorado and
Speaker 1: all these other states, and the people said, not only
Speaker 1: are we not going to let you do this, but
Speaker 1: we're going to stand up and we're going to stand
Speaker 1: behind him, and we're going to send a clear message,
Speaker 1: I think, to all of these people coming after him.
Speaker 2: Trump got fifty one percent in Iowa. That means he
Speaker 2: got more votes than everybody in the ballot. He got
Speaker 2: more votes than Ron De Santis and Nikki Hayley and
Speaker 2: vivek He got more votes than Chris Christie's dropped out.
Speaker 2: Added to Asa Hutchinson, added to Ben Ferguson and mother
Speaker 2: Teresa add all of them. Now Trump got more. And
Speaker 2: by the way, Ben, I apologize, I'm sorry you suffered
Speaker 2: such a crushing defeat.
Speaker 1: I did see to the endorsement, Sarah. I needed that endorsement.
Speaker 1: But there's always four years from now, right.
Speaker 2: You know, the future is always there for you. But
Speaker 2: look at the end of the day, as I said,
Speaker 2: when we're here on January twentieth, Alvin Bragg and Fanny
Speaker 2: Willis and Jack Smith, they ought to remember this moment
Speaker 2: because they played a pivotal role in it happening. And look,
Speaker 2: Americans across this country were horrified at the persecution. The
Speaker 2: Democrats are afraid. Joe Biden is afraid that if the
Speaker 2: voters get a free choice, they'll choose to elect President Trump,
Speaker 2: and as a result, they are abusing the legal process.
Speaker 2: They're going after him. They're trying to destroy him, and
Speaker 2: millions of people said enough is enough, this is grotesque.
Speaker 2: I'm with him. That's powerful, and I understand every bit
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: When you will get where we go next, and you've
Speaker 1: obviously done this as a candidate, explain what's going to
Speaker 1: happen next, moving from Iowa to New Hampshire to South
Speaker 1: Carolina and how quickly you think this could People will
Speaker 1: coalesce behind former President Donald Trump the same way that
Speaker 1: you're saying, Now there's a queer message.
Speaker 3: He's going to be the nominee.
Speaker 1: But explain the politics of this and now what will
Speaker 1: happen in this next phase.
Speaker 2: Look, I think this race is functionally over. Where we are.
Speaker 2: Ron de Santis's campaign depended upon his winning Iowa. He
Speaker 2: didn't and he not only didn't win, it wasn't close.
Speaker 2: He lost by over thirty points. That is a crushing
Speaker 2: blow to that campaign. We moved to New Hampshire. New
Speaker 2: Hampshire is historically a more moderate state, is a flinty
Speaker 2: independent state. In New Hampshire, DeSantis's numbers are incredibly low.
Speaker 2: They're single digits. Chris Christy, who had been polling in
Speaker 2: the low double digits, is out of the race. Vivek,
Speaker 2: who had a little bit of support, is out of
Speaker 2: the race. In New Hampshire, it's basically a two person
Speaker 2: race between Trump and Nicki Haley. The current polling shows
Speaker 2: them pretty close. Nicky Haley is running as an establishment moderate.
Speaker 2: That's the lane she's in. That has always been a
Speaker 2: lane in the Republican primary and she's consolidated the establishment
Speaker 2: moderate vote. At the end of the day, I don't
Speaker 2: know how she'd do in New Hampshire. She may do
Speaker 2: well in New Hampshire because the establishment moderate lane historically
Speaker 2: has been a sizeable lane in New Hampshire. Nationally, establishment
Speaker 2: moderates are about thirty percent of the Republican Party, and
Speaker 2: I got to say, is just a simple question of math.
Speaker 2: There is no way thirty percent beats seventy percent. And
Speaker 2: so New Hampshire we'll see where it is. Nicki Haley
Speaker 2: will probably do pretty well. I think Trump likely wins
Speaker 2: New Hampshire, but it may be relatively close. But after
Speaker 2: that we're going to go to Nevada. Nevada is a
Speaker 2: strange state this year because there's a fight between a
Speaker 2: caucus and a primary, and it's I think the results
Speaker 2: in Nevada are going to be a mess this year.
Speaker 2: So then you will move to South Carolina, where the
Speaker 2: primary is now. Nikki Haley is obviously the former governor
Speaker 2: of South Carolina, but South Carolina is a pretty conservative state,
Speaker 2: is significantly more conservative than New Hampton. Sure Historically, Iowa
Speaker 2: and South Carolina often vote together, and frequently New Hampshire
Speaker 2: is an outlier in that I think it is likely
Speaker 2: that when we get to South Carolina, Trump will win
Speaker 2: a dominating victory that I think he's likely to beat
Speaker 2: Nicki Haley by double digits and it could be by
Speaker 2: thirty forty points. I think it will be a big
Speaker 2: victory in South Carolina. And at that point I think
Speaker 2: the race is over. We will move on to Super Tuesday.
Speaker 2: You get a whole bunch of states. It's Super Tuesday
Speaker 2: has sometimes been referred to as the SEC Primary. You
Speaker 2: get a lot of Southern states. I think Trump is
Speaker 2: likely to win across the board on Super Tuesday, and
Speaker 2: so I think at the latest this race is over
Speaker 2: by Super Tuesday.
Speaker 1: When you look at these other candidates and they're now
Speaker 1: sitting there, there's one big problem, and that is raising
Speaker 1: funds and inspiring people. When you lose, and you lose badly,
Speaker 1: you got to try to go back and rally the troops.
Speaker 3: You got to move on.
Speaker 1: You got a staff that's been you know, the air
Speaker 1: has been let out of the balloon. You've been doing
Speaker 1: this now for months on end, and you have these
Speaker 1: types of showings as you mentioned with DeSantis and Haley.
Speaker 1: Vivick obviously dropping out, what's going through their minds tonight
Speaker 1: moving forward as well? And how much I guess leeway
Speaker 1: should people give Because you see this online, people are like,
Speaker 1: you know, drop out now, it's Trump's you know, get
Speaker 1: out of the way. You need to call left behind
Speaker 1: right now. And if you don't, we'll never forgive you.
Speaker 1: I mean, we see a ton of that in politics.
Speaker 1: But what perspective and how long should it take them
Speaker 1: to kind of get their head around the reality of this.
Speaker 2: Look that'll play out in time. I'm not pressing anyone
Speaker 2: to drop out that they're going to decide. By the way,
Speaker 2: everyone in presidential campaigns drops out for the same reason
Speaker 2: they go broke. That ultimately, if you look throughout history,
Speaker 2: decade after decade, that's when people drop out. When they
Speaker 2: can't pay their salary anymore, when they can't fly anymore,
Speaker 2: when they can't put it on an event anymore, when
Speaker 2: they can't run a anymore. When they go broke, they
Speaker 2: drop out. DeSantis has an enormous problem. He is going
Speaker 2: to have a massive problem raising money at this point.
Speaker 2: He will probably raise some money in Florida. So there
Speaker 2: are a handful of people in Florida he's still the
Speaker 2: governor of Florida. So if you're a lobbyist in Florida,
Speaker 2: if you're a big business in Florida, you'll probably still
Speaker 2: write him a check because when he loses, he's still
Speaker 2: going to be the governor of Florida, so you don't
Speaker 2: want to piss him off. So he'll raise a little
Speaker 2: bit of money from Florida. But if you're not in Florida,
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone that's going to write him a
Speaker 2: check right now, So that's going to be a huge problem.
Speaker 3: Haley.
Speaker 2: Haley has had a surge of cash, and she'll get
Speaker 2: a bigger surge of cash. The never Trumpers Wall Street
Speaker 2: will be enthusiastically behind Hailey. The people who hate Donald
Speaker 2: Trump with a burning passion will be enthusiastically behind Hailey.
Speaker 2: So she's going to get a rush of cash. But
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, a rush of cash
Speaker 2: can't buy vote. Jeb Bush in twenty sixteen had a
Speaker 2: mountain of cash and at the end of the day
Speaker 2: he won zero states. Nicky Hayley has a path I
Speaker 2: believe at best to win one state. It is conceivable
Speaker 2: she wins New Hampshire. I think she probably doesn't. I
Speaker 2: think Trump is likely to win New Hampshire, but you
Speaker 2: can imagine Haley winning New Hampshire. But at that point
Speaker 2: the path is over. So I think there'll be a
Speaker 2: ton of money and once you get the race could
Speaker 2: be over before Super Tuesday. Listen, if Trump wins, He's
Speaker 2: won Iowa, if he wins New Hampshire, if he wins
Speaker 2: South Carolina. It's difficult to see how anyone stays in the.
Speaker 3: Race go backfire.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this about nick You do you
Speaker 1: think it'll backfire that the New Hampshire GOP primary debate
Speaker 1: has now been canceled, that after Nicky Haley has pulled
Speaker 1: out of those debates. It's being reported by ABC News
Speaker 1: if they have canceled their New Hampshire primary debate after
Speaker 1: he said she won't she would.
Speaker 3: Only appear if Trump did.
Speaker 1: The former President Trump has not been part of any
Speaker 1: of the previous five debates. I can't imagine why he
Speaker 1: would change his strategy now. But her dropping out, I
Speaker 1: actually think that could turn off a lot of voters
Speaker 1: to her in New Hampshire. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: You know, it's a hard dynamic because without Trump there
Speaker 2: at this point Haley debating De Santis would just be
Speaker 2: weird because DeSantis. I like Ron, He's a friend of mine.
Speaker 2: He was a great governor of Florida. He still is
Speaker 2: a great governor of Florida. He doesn't have a path anymore.
Speaker 2: And so I get Haley saying, well, why would I
Speaker 2: debate Ron de Santis when he doesn't have a path
Speaker 2: her opponent? Hailey's only opponent is Donald Trump, and so
Speaker 2: a debate against anyone not named Donald J. Trump doesn't
Speaker 2: make a whole lot of sense. That being said. From
Speaker 2: Trump's perspective, why on earth would he debate Haley. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's I think he's won this race. That's why I've
Speaker 2: endorsed him. I think it is functionally over and I
Speaker 2: want us to win in November. And I got to
Speaker 2: say I'm comfortable, very comfortable with that endorsement. Look, there
Speaker 2: are things Trump says and does that I don't like,
Speaker 2: that I disagree with. That's been true forever. But if
Speaker 2: I compare the record of Donald Trump as president to
Speaker 2: the record of Joe Biden as president, it's not even close.
Speaker 2: Under the former, the benefits for the people of Texas
Speaker 2: and the American people were massive, we had prosperity, we
Speaker 2: had a secure border, we had peace worldwide. Compared to
Speaker 2: under Biden. We have skyrocketing inflation. We have crime out
Speaker 2: of control. We have the worst illegal immigration in the
Speaker 2: history of our country. We have the biggest war in
Speaker 2: Europe since World War II. We have the worst war
Speaker 2: in the Middle East in fifty years. On any measure,
Speaker 2: Trump's record is massively, massively, massively better than Joe Biden's,
Speaker 2: and so that for me makes me very comfortable. I
Speaker 2: want us to win in November. We need to defeat
Speaker 2: Joe Biden and the cultural Marxist who take it over
Speaker 2: our federal government.
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Speaker 1: I also want to ask you about the issues every
Speaker 1: election cycle, presidential specifically, you have certain themes and you
Speaker 1: have certain issues that get and drive voters to the polls.
Speaker 1: As a candidate, you've got to make sure you're hitting
Speaker 1: those issues. And when you look at what this overwhelming
Speaker 1: victory in Iowa means for Donald Trump, it means he's
Speaker 1: talking the right issues. When you look forward, I think
Speaker 1: it's clear it's the economy stupid, it's the worries about inflation,
Speaker 1: it is the worries about high interest rates.
Speaker 3: It's the worries about national security.
Speaker 1: And it's still going back to what actually made his
Speaker 1: campaign explode in sixteen, build the Wall.
Speaker 3: I mean, there is.
Speaker 1: A national security aspect to the open borders and the
Speaker 1: chaos down there. If he goes back and stays on
Speaker 1: these issues, yes, which he's been doing so far pretty well.
Speaker 1: This seems to be what this election is going to
Speaker 1: be about. Is were you better off then than you
Speaker 1: are now under Joe Biden's America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are two massive issues in this election. Number
Speaker 2: one is jobs in the economy. And jobs in the
Speaker 2: economy are always front and center in any election. As
Speaker 2: you noted, James Carville famously put it in Bill Clinton's election,
Speaker 2: it's the economy stupid. Like people care about jobs. They
Speaker 2: care about their family, they care about their income, they
Speaker 2: care about paying the bills, they care about their children,
Speaker 2: they care about their future. And the economy Joe Biden
Speaker 2: is driven into the ground. The inflation is hurting everyone.
Speaker 2: Whether you're buying food, whether you're paying for electricity, where
Speaker 2: you're paying for the health care, whether you're paying for gasoline.
Speaker 2: Everything the cost has gone up and people are hurting
Speaker 2: people are really unhappy. They're feeling the pain. The second
Speaker 2: issue that resonates powerfully is safety and security. And people
Speaker 2: want to be safe. They want their families to be safe,
Speaker 2: they want their wives, their children to be safe. And
Speaker 2: under Joe Biden, people's safety and security has been seriously compromised.
Speaker 2: And that's a combination of multiple issues. That's a combination
Speaker 2: of crime, crime skyrocketing everywhere as Democrats have assaulted the police,
Speaker 2: attacked the police, and stood with violent criminals against law enforcement.
Speaker 2: That has made all of us less safe. You combine
Speaker 2: that with illegal immigration, and people don't like the chaos,
Speaker 2: they don't like all of the horrors that are unplaying.
Speaker 2: But they also don't like the threat to their families
Speaker 2: and their children that illegal immigration, that bringing in criminals
Speaker 2: and murders and gang bangers and MS thirteen and terrorists
Speaker 2: to this country, the danger that provides. And you put
Speaker 2: on top of that the wars that we have, the
Speaker 2: war in Ukraine, the war in Israel, the exposure we
Speaker 2: have to a major terrorist attack in the next year,
Speaker 2: which I think is massive. And people feel that they
Speaker 2: feel afraid, They feel afraid for their safety and security,
Speaker 2: and I think those two issues jobs in the economy
Speaker 2: and safety and security are going to dominate this election,
Speaker 2: and on both of those the Democrats are a train
Speaker 2: wreck and Trump's record objectively is massively better.
Speaker 1: I got to ask you one other thing about this
Speaker 1: real quick, and it's going to make you laugh. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling I'm going to know something, and this
Speaker 1: rarely happens that you don't know. In the odds in Vegas,
Speaker 1: the odds Makers today center added a name to the
Speaker 1: list of prospects who you can bet on to become
Speaker 1: president of the United States of America.
Speaker 3: You know who they added.
Speaker 2: Today, Benjamin Ferguson, right, and now President Ferguson. I look
Speaker 2: forward to visiting your giant block of cheese in.
Speaker 3: The Western close.
Speaker 1: But my name is still not where the odds makers
Speaker 1: it is none other than Michelle Obama. They are taking
Speaker 1: official bets now, the odds makers that Michelle Obama could
Speaker 1: become president of the United States of America this after
Speaker 1: the Iowa Caucuses they update their list. Her name has
Speaker 1: now officially been added. It is a head by the
Speaker 1: way of people like Kennedy Junior, for example, and it's
Speaker 1: ahead of I'm trying to remember they had somebody else
Speaker 1: on there, Oh it was. It's ahead of the governor
Speaker 1: of California, Gavin Newsom. The odds makers are saying Michelle
Speaker 1: Obama out of nowhere. She's not running, right, But we've
Speaker 1: been We've been saying this on Verdict. Are you a
Speaker 1: little surprised by this?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not. And listen, remember this podcast predicted it first. Now.
Speaker 2: I still don't think it's greater than fifty percent that
Speaker 2: Michelle is the Democrat nominee. But as I said recently,
Speaker 2: I think on last week of the week before's podcast,
Speaker 2: I think it's probably fifty five forty five that it
Speaker 2: is Joe Biden versus Michelle Obama. I think it is
Speaker 2: almost a coin flip. And I think Gavin Newsom has
Speaker 2: a zero percent chance. I think there's no other Democrat
Speaker 2: that has a chance. It will be one of the two.
Speaker 2: We said this early, Franklin, we said this early. You
Speaker 2: saw folks in the media kind of say, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is an outlandish theory. Who are these crazy loons Cruz
Speaker 2: and Ferguson that are pitching this. And to be clear,
Speaker 2: I want to be unambiguous. I do not want to
Speaker 2: see a nation when Michelle Obama is our president. I
Speaker 2: think she is extreme left. I think her policies would
Speaker 2: be worse than Joe Biden. But I think Democrats are scared.
Speaker 2: They're scared that Donald Trump will win. They recognize Joe
Speaker 2: Biden is a liability they're looking to get out, and
Speaker 2: I think the only parachute they see is Michelle Obama
Speaker 2: And so that that concern is real, and I think
Speaker 2: it's growing every day.
Speaker 1: The odds, just so you know, Donald Trump is eleven
Speaker 1: to eight now and the best odds you can get
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is nine to four, Nikki Haley fourteen to one,
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama twenty to one, and Gavin News from twenty
Speaker 1: five to one. So for all of those that thought
Speaker 1: that that was a crazy idea, they're now taking that
Speaker 1: in Vegas.
Speaker 3: Is it is?
Speaker 1: It is very interesting to see how quickly her name
Speaker 1: after that interview which we talked about a week ago
Speaker 1: here where she did that sit down interview and said
Speaker 1: it keeps her up at night wondering who's going to
Speaker 1: be leading this country and we need a strong and
Speaker 1: powerful leader.
Speaker 3: She was talking like a candidate.
Speaker 1: They obviously have noticed it as well, And now you
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Speaker 3: Of the president's sons firearm.
Speaker 2: Really, so look, Hunter Biden is a world of trouble.
Speaker 2: Anyone who pays attention knows that this filing this week
Speaker 2: from the Department of Justice was really stunning. It is
Speaker 2: a felony for someone who has a substance abuse problems,
Speaker 2: for someone who's using illegal drugs to have a firearm.
Speaker 2: Here's what the Biden Department of Justice said in their
Speaker 2: written brief filed in court. I just want to read this.
Speaker 2: It is the following paragraph title, Cocaine was found on
Speaker 2: the defendant's brown leather gun pouch.
Speaker 3: Here's what the paragraph says.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, FBI investigators pulled sealed evidence from
Speaker 2: the state police vault to take photographs of the defendant's
Speaker 2: firearmant being Hunter Biden. After opening the evidence, FBI investigators
Speaker 2: observed a white pottery substance on the defendant's brown leather
Speaker 2: pouch that had held the defendants firearm in October twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Based on their training and expertise, investigators believed that this
Speaker 2: substance was likely cocaine and that this evidence would corroborate
Speaker 2: the messages that investigators had obtained which showed the defendant
Speaker 2: buying and using drugs in October twenty eighteen. An FBI
Speaker 2: chemist subsequently analyzed the residue and determined that it was cocaine.
Speaker 2: To be clear, investigators literally found drugs on the pouch
Speaker 2: where the defendant had kept his gun. Now, look, this
Speaker 2: is reminiscent of Bob Menendez having evidence in his closet
Speaker 2: of a jacket with the US Senate seal on it
Speaker 2: with the name Senator Menendez typed on it with a
Speaker 2: packet of ten thousand dollars in its pocket, with the
Speaker 2: fingerprints of the Egyptians who allegedly bribed him.
Speaker 3: In his post.
Speaker 2: Like I gotta tell you, I practiced law a lot
Speaker 2: of years. You don't get evidence like this. You don't
Speaker 2: get evidence that ties every piece of it together. The
Speaker 2: fact that Hunter his gun case had cocaine on it,
Speaker 2: and the FBI is determined yep, that's cocaine on his
Speaker 2: gun case. The felony is possessing a firearm while using
Speaker 2: illegal drugs. Your gun case has cocaine on it. I
Speaker 2: don't care how bad a lawyer you are, that ain't
Speaker 2: hard to prove. And and and let's be clear, the
Speaker 2: Biden DOJ was prepared to give a sweetheart deal to Hunter.
Speaker 2: Biden give him a slap on the wrist and have
Speaker 2: him serve zero, not a moment of jail time until
Speaker 2: they got caught at it. And so this evidence, by
Speaker 2: the way, while they knew that the crime he committed,
Speaker 2: which is a felony, lying on this form to buy
Speaker 2: a gun. I mean, you can't make notice center cocaine
Speaker 2: on the pouch of the gun.
Speaker 3: How much what it be for you to have a
Speaker 3: cage than this?
Speaker 2: Look, I want to say something original that's never been
Speaker 2: said before.
Speaker 3: Cocaine. She don't lie, She don't lie. Cocaine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, welcome to your DOJ right now. If you're
Speaker 1: the President's signed, you can have cocaine on your gun
Speaker 1: and they still will try to give you a sweetheart
Speaker 1: deal to cover it up.
Speaker 2: By the way, but Ben, don't forget the mystery of
Speaker 2: the century. The Department of Justice, the FBI, the CIA,
Speaker 2: the entire amassed forces of the federal government cannot figure
Speaker 2: out who left a packet of cocaine in the White House.
Speaker 2: With cameras everywhere, in security guards everywhere, it's a mystery.
Speaker 2: Who the hell can figure it out? And his name
Speaker 2: might rhyme with Bunter Heyden.
Speaker 3: All right, I can, I can.
Speaker 1: I can ask this because it's a podcast, I can
Speaker 1: use this word, So I'm going to use it. Which
Speaker 1: one and we'll end with this center pisses you off
Speaker 1: more that they can't figure out whose cocaine it was
Speaker 1: in the White House, or that they can't figure out
Speaker 1: who leaked the decision coming out of the Supreme court
Speaker 1: on Roe v.
Speaker 3: Wade.
Speaker 2: So let me break those down. And I actually I'm
Speaker 2: joking with the Bunter Hyden thing. But as we said
Speaker 2: or a previous podcast and go back, I actually don't
Speaker 2: think it's Hunter Biden's cocaine, really, okay, because and we
Speaker 2: talked about this, right.
Speaker 3: That's right, because I believe it totally is.
Speaker 2: No, it's not because the place it's at is where
Speaker 2: the staff goes in and out. I think it's a staffer.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the chief of staff or
Speaker 2: the deputy chief of staff or a senior official, but
Speaker 2: it's an employee and probably a senior employee. But I
Speaker 2: don't know that of the Biden White House because Hunter Biden,
Speaker 2: as the presidential son, doesn't go through the staff entrance
Speaker 2: to the West Wing. I go through all there all
Speaker 2: I used to. I haven't been there in years, but
Speaker 2: when Trump was president, I went through there all the time.
Speaker 2: That's where staff goes in and out. It's not where
Speaker 2: the first family goes in and out. And so I
Speaker 2: actually think the cover up there is they are hiding
Speaker 2: for a staffer who was dumb enough to bring his
Speaker 2: or her cocaine into the White House. So I was
Speaker 2: being a smart ass saying saying it was Hunter Biden's,
Speaker 2: but I actually don't think that's Hunters. I do think
Speaker 2: the cocaine on his gun pouch was Hunters, but that's
Speaker 2: that's a different thing between the two. It's not even
Speaker 2: close in terms of what the public consequence is, which
Speaker 2: is the leaking of the draft opinion from the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court was consequential at historic levels. It undermined the rule
Speaker 2: of law, It undermined the Supreme Court, and I think
Speaker 2: it is an absolute outrage that they have not tracked
Speaker 2: down and prosecuted the person who did so. So between
Speaker 2: the two, it's not even close. But I got to say,
Speaker 2: more broadly on the cocaine issue, Look, this DOJ filing
Speaker 2: illustrates that the evidence against Hunter is compelling. It's overwhelming.
Speaker 2: And mind you that the Biden DOJ has let the
Speaker 2: most serious offenses, has let the statute limitations expire. They're
Speaker 2: trying to let them off. Remember remember, remember we said
Speaker 2: this in our last podcast. The target of this investigation,
Speaker 2: if you're looking looking at the public interest, is not
Speaker 2: and should not be Hunter Biden. The guy is a poor,
Speaker 2: sad sack who's got enormous problems. But the reason this
Speaker 2: is a matter of public import is because Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: Daddy Biden, who's the President of the United States, has
Speaker 2: now years and even decades of history of corruption of
Speaker 2: selling official favors for millions of dollars going to his family,
Speaker 2: and so this filing from the Biden DOJ just shows
Speaker 2: they've got the evidence like crazy, and yet they're bending over.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, Ben, do you think all right?
Speaker 2: You own a gun store. Yeah, I want to ask
Speaker 2: you a question. At your gun store, if the FBI
Speaker 2: came in and found cocaine on a brown leather package
Speaker 2: that was holding guns, what do you think how do
Speaker 2: you think they would treat Ben Ferguson.
Speaker 3: I would be in jail and it would be bad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't even be.
Speaker 2: Up for debate, like not close, like sing sing, don't
Speaker 2: bend over for the soap. Ben, nice to know you.
Speaker 2: I'll write your letter, I'll bake you a cake and
Speaker 2: put a file in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that would be how they would treat I
Speaker 1: think pretty much anybody that doesn't have the connections that
Speaker 1: he has.
Speaker 2: Now, if your name were Benjamin Biden, by the way,
Speaker 2: you would be driving a sweet car. You might have
Speaker 2: a private plane. You would be living life well because
Speaker 2: you'd be able to sell favorsome daddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to be the last name. I have
Speaker 1: the last name Biden. That's all they can say. It'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what they do now with this
Speaker 1: coming out.
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