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Speaker 3: And we have been thinking at some point what we

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Speaker 4: It's fair enough.

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Speaker 5: Because there's also just a ton of breaking news this morning.

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Speaker 5: One of the weirdest days on Capitol Hill yesterday. We

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Speaker 3: Three different fights.

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Speaker 4: Right, it just says fight.

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Speaker 5: There are many fights, and we will take you through them,

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Speaker 5: from the tweets to the video clips. You will go

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Speaker 5: on this journey alongside us, because it really is a journey. Also,

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Speaker 5: China and the United States reached.

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Speaker 4: A climate agreement last night.

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Speaker 5: The State Department announced that are around ten pm last

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Speaker 5: night because President Biden and Shi Jinping are meeting today.

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Speaker 5: The climate agreement is on joint efforts to as the

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Speaker 5: New York Times put it, ramp up renewable.

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Speaker 5: So that's a huge today. That was a big piece

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Speaker 3: China has basically cornered the market on clean energy, and

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Speaker 3: the US, through the Inflation Reduction Act, put hundreds of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no question about that also last night, Ryan,

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Speaker 5: this is where we're starting today, the Israeli invasion of

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Speaker 5: Al Shifa Hospital in Gaza began.

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Speaker 3: It's just an incredible kind of phrase to use in

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Speaker 5: So right in the Israeli side, we can put the

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Speaker 4: This is from the IDF.

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Speaker 5: They announced that, based on intelligence, information and operational necessity,

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Speaker 5: The IDEF is conducting a ground operation in Gaza to

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Speaker 5: defeat Hamas and rescue our hostages. Israel is at war

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Speaker 5: They went on to add there the IDEA forces include

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Speaker 5: and sensitive environment is one way to put it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Israel built the tunnels and they built a kind

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Speaker 3: and there are all of these tunnels, you're going to

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Speaker 3: and therefore we need to bomb the hospital. I would understand, Okay,

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Speaker 5: Well, I think this is actually why this entire hospital

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Speaker 5: And so at the same time though, that then requires

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Speaker 5: Taken steps that led to the does of many people,

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Speaker 4: So even from that perspective, you have to.

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Speaker 5: Then trust that the IDEAF and the Israeli government are

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Speaker 3: And I think sometimes it's because people are hearing from

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Speaker 3: what Israeli government is actually saying. IDF spokesperson said, quote,

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Speaker 3: regret it. Agriculture minister'll be dictor we are now rolling

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Speaker 5: Yet there No, that's a great point, and we talked

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Speaker 5: I'm highly unusual for a country that's attacked to then

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Speaker 5: But that does require a lot of trust and saying

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Speaker 5: It just means that this hospital situation, I really think

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Speaker 5: Ryan does reflect some of these broader fault lines really

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Speaker 3: And Israel has alluded to this being an intelligence operation,

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Speaker 3: as you quoted earlier, and so if the kind of

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Speaker 3: for kind of command control, command and control, it's possible

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Speaker 3: that Israel will be able to obtain some hard drives

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Speaker 3: Let's end all of this.

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Speaker 3: And you can see how uncomfortable he gets there. Initially,

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Speaker 4: You were watching that live while you were there. I

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Speaker 5: So that's fantastic that nobody had to that these security

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Speaker 4: Anything that would have happened.

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Speaker 5: That said, those members of Congress were eager to take

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Speaker 3: On the astronom lawn. Yeah, we have speaker Mike Johnston

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Speaker 5: He continues to exist, and he was sharing a stage

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Speaker 1: The calls for a ceasefire are outrageous, I'll see.

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Speaker 7: So the minute I heard of what happened in January seventh,

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Speaker 5: He's so used to saying January sixth when he talks

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Speaker 5: We also have this picture of John Fetterman. We can

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Speaker 4: The National Mall.

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Speaker 5: Jews all over the world must be safe. Nothing really

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Speaker 3: The most surprising thing I thought was that they invited

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Speaker 3: I know it's out there, but to me, it'd be like,

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Speaker 3: imagine if at the pro Palestinian rally a couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks ago or a week ago, whatever it was, time

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Speaker 3: is so compressed that Farah Cohn spoke every single person

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Speaker 3: who had anything to do and wasn't even at the rally,

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Speaker 3: everyone in the squad, everyone who supported sees Fire resolution,

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Speaker 3: everybody who had been remotely critical of Israel would have

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Speaker 3: been asked, do you condemn Lewis Farakhon? And do you

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Speaker 3: condemn the organizers, you know, for inviting Lewis Parakhan? And

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Speaker 3: you know what, maybe that's fine because he is beyond

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Speaker 3: the pale. So what on earth would he be doing

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Speaker 3: on that stage. This guy's beyond the pale, and the

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Speaker 3: fact that he can share a stage with these politicians,

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Speaker 3: and the politicians don't get pressed other than on this

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Speaker 3: on this program. Cruise will be later about his about

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Speaker 3: sharing the stage with this guy is a kind of

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Speaker 3: mind blowing double standard to me.

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Speaker 5: Although, like again I'm an evangelical Christian conservative, I've no

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Speaker 5: idea who this guy is. I actually never heard of him.

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Speaker 5: I am vaguely familiar.

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Speaker 4: Like you, you're in.

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Speaker 3: Luck keep it that way. He's uh, he's about he's

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Speaker 3: so yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, after you pointed this out to me yesterday,

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Speaker 5: I was kind of going somewhat deep on it.

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Speaker 4: And again, this.

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Speaker 3: Is some of the even his speech was crazy. He

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Speaker 3: didn't even like tone it down.

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Speaker 5: Some of what he says is familiar. You know, the

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Speaker 5: language about Israel and d Times and how some Christians

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Speaker 5: may see the political question of Israel through that lens.

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Speaker 5: It's not something that I hear a lot. I don't

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Speaker 5: think that there are people on the right that make

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Speaker 5: that argument.

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Speaker 3: I think it's basically when they put him on the stage,

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Speaker 3: it just validates the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just gonna say, yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 5: like it's one of those figments of it's easily made

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Speaker 5: into a straw man to represent the whole right when

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Speaker 5: I think it's something that represents a kind of faction

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Speaker 5: of the maybe like Evangelical Christian right. But even then

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Speaker 5: it's not representative of the whole movement by long shot.

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Speaker 4: But you're right.

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Speaker 5: You put the guy in stage, you're undoing any effort

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Speaker 5: to say hell, no, no.

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Speaker 4: No, this isn't us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how he keeps getting out there reflects the power

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Speaker 3: that he has. In Walid's post, it quoted one of

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Speaker 3: his old sermons where he basically says that Hitler was

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Speaker 3: helping to usher in some biblical prophecy where he says

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Speaker 3: God says in Jeremiah sixteen, behold I will bring them,

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Speaker 3: the Jewish people again, onto their land that I give

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Speaker 3: to their fathers, and they the hunters, shall hunt them,

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Speaker 3: And then he says that would be the Jews. Then

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Speaker 3: God sent a hunter. The hunter is someone who comes

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Speaker 3: with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter.

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Speaker 3: This is he like, this is the guy that literally

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Speaker 3: was on stage yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Absolute bananas. There's no excuse to put someone like that

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Speaker 5: on stage.

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Speaker 3: So the people that we it was a very peaceful

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Speaker 3: affair like it was, and the fetterman kind of get

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Speaker 3: up that you saw. There was kind of standard attire,

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Speaker 3: like a lot of people draped in flags, a lot

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Speaker 3: of flag waving. You did have some you had some

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Speaker 3: offensive signs like finish them off and stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: but not many. It was most most people did not

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Speaker 3: have signs. There seemed to be a lot of young people,

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Speaker 3: high schoolers, college students.

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Speaker 5: Bust in the cheers for Schumer actually was interesting to me.

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Speaker 5: I assumed that there were a lot of probably left

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Speaker 5: people there.

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Speaker 3: Well, And I asked a lot of the people how

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Speaker 3: they felt Biden was handling this situation. All of them

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Speaker 3: said they were either they either were happy with how

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Speaker 3: he was handling it, or they were pleasantly surprised interesting

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Speaker 3: they were handling it. All the people who were pleasantly

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Speaker 3: surprised with it, I asked them, did you vote for Biden?

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Speaker 3: They said no. Would you ever vote for Biden? They

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Speaker 3: said absolutely not. So it's not like he's winning people

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Speaker 3: over with that, which it matters when it comes to

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Speaker 3: the political calculations. But yes, there was a lot of

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Speaker 3: there was a lot of support for Biden's handling of

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Speaker 3: this so far at that rally.

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Speaker 5: The question about Hagey also gets to something we wanted

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Speaker 5: to discuss here, which is an inter nice scene squabble

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Speaker 5: at the Daily Wire that has erupted just in the

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Speaker 5: last twenty four hours, and this.

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Speaker 3: Will be a good segue into the congressional fighting.

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Speaker 5: There's just so much fighting today. But let's take a

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Speaker 5: look actually at this clip of Ben Shapiro responding to

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Speaker 5: question is about Candace Owens, who works for the Daily Wire.

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Speaker 4: Ben.

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Speaker 5: I think his title now is editor at large at

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Speaker 5: the Daily Wire.

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Speaker 4: Don't think he's super.

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Speaker 5: Involved in you know, news curation and and you know

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Speaker 5: the daily like line editing or anything like that. So

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Speaker 5: someone asked him about Candace Owens, who's been a critical

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Speaker 5: of the rights approach to the question of Israel in.

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Speaker 4: The last month. Let's take a look at the video.

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Speaker 8: Yes, then the backhand his own. Her behavior during this

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Speaker 8: is be destrisful, that is it's my company, yea. And

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Speaker 8: I think she's been absolutely disgraceful. I think that I

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Speaker 8: think that her sophistication on these particular issues has been ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: It's sophistication. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 8: Everybody can see those that she's thinking, the things that

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Speaker 8: she's saying, and I'm distractable.

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Speaker 3: So the sound on that wasn't great. He's basically saying

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Speaker 3: she's been absolutely disgraceful and her fo you see a

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Speaker 3: woman in the background. Her jaw has just dropped mouth

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Speaker 3: and Gate cannot believe that she's seeing this savage attack

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Speaker 3: from benchmia on. Okay, someone, So what's what's the background here?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I don't know like that.

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Speaker 3: So what has she been saying that is absolutely disgraceful? Yes,

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Speaker 3: what's got him so upset? So let's let's actually roll

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Speaker 3: that all of their personal drama.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's just roll that clip.

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Speaker 5: Actually, here's Candace Owens a little a small flavor. You know,

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Speaker 5: she has a show, so she's in a Twitter account,

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Speaker 5: so she's talked a lot over the course of the

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Speaker 5: last month and mostly has been asking questions.

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Speaker 4: I think that.

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Speaker 5: People take as oh, you're just you're just asking questions.

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Speaker 3: Is this before or after? Okay? So this is before? Okay.

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Speaker 4: So here's one clip.

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Speaker 9: I am here today to endorse Nicky Haley for president

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Speaker 9: of Israel.

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Speaker 4: I think she's earned that.

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Speaker 9: I think BB and Yahoo is going through a very

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Speaker 9: bad time right now. Support for Israel has virtually collapsed socially.

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Speaker 9: If you're paying attention to the trends, and you're paying

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Speaker 9: attention to what people are watching, you're paying attention to protests.

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Speaker 4: And the one person that.

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Speaker 9: I think is capable of getting it back is Nicki

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Speaker 9: Haley with a enough money from foreign interest lobbies. So

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Speaker 9: there it is, guys, I'm endorsing Nicki Haley president of Israel.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it wouldn't be foreign money. It

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Speaker 3: would be domestic money if she's running for president in Israel, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, or it would be millionaires in the United States.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, very very Also, it's not president's prime minister.

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Speaker 3: President is her dog. It's just a ceremonial role right

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Speaker 3: where you come on, Candice, come on, yeah, if you're

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Speaker 3: gonna endorse somebody.

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Speaker 4: She had an embarrassing moment last week that I.

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Speaker 3: Think that I think that was actually kind of incisive.

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Speaker 3: Maybe even though she stumbled on all the details, the

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Speaker 3: whole thing is supposed to be a joke.

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't think Ben Shapiro would be particularly

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Speaker 5: upset about Nicki hale joke about how Nikki Haley is

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Speaker 5: you know, so pro is rule that it, you know,

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Speaker 5: is problematic. But actually this is interesting as we're taping

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Speaker 5: right now. Candace Owens announced that she is dropping their

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Speaker 5: Tucker is dropping a Tucker on X with Candace Owens

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Speaker 5: at six pm. So that was announced late last night

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Speaker 5: that they were they were sitting down.

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Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro and Tucker has been really mad at Tucker too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's they don't get along. They don't get along

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Speaker 5: and have been sharply critical. But actually, I think one

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Speaker 5: of the broader takeaways here Candas owns we can put

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Speaker 5: her response up on the screen. She had a very

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Speaker 5: cryptic post that, Yeah, that's what actually what media called

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Speaker 5: it a cryptic post. She was tweeting from the Bible

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Speaker 5: right after this whole thing was blowing up. So she tweeted,

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Speaker 5: busted or the peace makers, they should be called the

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Speaker 5: children of God. Blessed are they which are persecuted for

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Speaker 5: Righteouster's sake? For theirs is the Kingdom of heaven, and

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Speaker 5: she went on in a thread. Her second tweet was

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Speaker 5: Christ is king. So the kind of cryptic message there

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Speaker 5: is you can interpret that in a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 3: So you cannot serve both money and God. She's quoted

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Speaker 3: that too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So she keeps going and says no one can

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Speaker 5: serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and

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Speaker 5: love the other, or you will be devoted to the

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Speaker 5: one and despise the other. Again quoting from the Bible,

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Speaker 5: she says, you cannot serve both God and money. And

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Speaker 5: so I think if I were Ben Shapiro, I'd probably

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Speaker 5: interpret that as an anti Semitic trope. And so this

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Speaker 5: is again a company that he has some staken.

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Speaker 4: And leadership of.

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Speaker 5: He is easily one of the most visible political commentators

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Speaker 5: in America, not just on the right, he is very

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Speaker 5: very powerful in the right. The Daily Wire has a

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Speaker 5: lot of clout on the On the right, kanz Owens

624
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Speaker 5: has a huge audience as well. I think Ryan, what

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Speaker 5: this speaks to is the sort of ironic because Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump did, you know, a lot of very very pro

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Speaker 5: Israel things, but I think he ushered in this era

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Speaker 5: in the concerntive sphere where all of the prior I

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Speaker 5: guess things that were held sacred, you know, total unconditional

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Speaker 5: support for Israel, all of these other things that you

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Speaker 5: used to not be able to say, for example, I

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Speaker 5: won't touch entitlements.

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Speaker 4: They're different things like I won't criticize.

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Speaker 5: NATO, all of those prior things that were considered sacred

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Speaker 5: and untouchable in the conservative movement. There is now a

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Speaker 5: significant contingency of people, at least in conservative media spaces,

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Speaker 5: who have a lot of fun poking at that stuff.

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Speaker 5: And I don't just mean fun in like acute way.

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Speaker 5: I mean there's obviously something ideological there, and there are also,

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, the motivations of social media to

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Speaker 5: kind of poke around at those issues. There's something that

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Speaker 5: can be very gratifying to people about that. I don't

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Speaker 5: personally love Candas is just asking questions approached the last

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Speaker 5: couple of weeks, she's had again some embarrassing moments. Last week,

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Speaker 5: she was asking about the Muslim Quarter and the Christian

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Speaker 5: Quarter of Jerusalem, thinking that it was almost like Jim

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Speaker 5: Crow and got corrected in the middle of an interview.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's great that people are learning more

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Speaker 5: about what's actually happening in Israel and what's actually happening

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Speaker 5: in Jerusalem and not just taking what they're being told

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Speaker 5: from the media as though it were gospel, so to speak.

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Speaker 5: I think that's great, but I think you should probably

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Speaker 5: save the like gotcha, just asking questions things until you

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Speaker 5: feel really comfortable with what you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And as for her comments, I don't think that

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Speaker 3: there's a as far as I understand, there's no get

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Speaker 3: out of Trope's free card by quoting the Bible, Like, no,

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Speaker 3: it's still like that was that's dicey stuff. Yeah, she's pushing.

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Speaker 3: And I think your point about how Trump unleashed some

660
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Speaker 3: of this is interesting is the other thing that he

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Speaker 3: unleashed was both anti semitism and extreme pro Israel politics.

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Speaker 3: Like he has said some of the most antisemitic stuff

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Speaker 3: any president has ever said. Or he'll be like, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, those Jews they control Washington, but that's great

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Speaker 3: that they do because they love Israel and I love Israel.

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Speaker 3: You're like, that is deeply anti semitic what you just said,

667
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Speaker 3: and he's like, he would probably say, no, that's pro semitic,

668
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Speaker 3: like or he would say something about how they're good

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Speaker 3: with money, like just the grossest anti semitic tropes, but

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Speaker 3: then he would follow it up by talking about how

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Speaker 3: it moved I moved the embassy to Jerusalem and how

672
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Speaker 3: much he supports Israel, and so it was. It ended

673
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Speaker 3: up becoming a cover and then eventually a substitute for

674
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Speaker 3: not being anti Semitic, and so I think when you

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Speaker 3: unleash that, maybe this is kind of the discourse that

676
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Speaker 3: you're going to get around it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I think that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 5: And I think we yeah, we see it in other

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Speaker 5: areas of the conversation as well.

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Speaker 4: Not just in Israel.

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Speaker 5: But this is a real I do think it's really

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Speaker 5: interesting because there's no cracks in Israel support in Congress.

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Speaker 5: You know, even people who are jd Vance for example,

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Speaker 5: when he was trying to divorce the funding of Ukraine

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Speaker 5: from the funding of Israel.

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Speaker 4: That was a very intentional specific thing.

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Speaker 5: So even somebody who's questioning the extent of our military

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Speaker 5: assistance Ukraine has zero interest in, you know, even starting

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Speaker 5: to nibble around the edges or question the aid to Israel,

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Speaker 5: or flirt with the idea of a ceasefire.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's virtually no one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, maybe I haven't followed Thomas Massey closely enough

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Speaker 5: on this.

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Speaker 4: Actually last week on the.

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Speaker 5: Show, Rand Paul went further than any other Republican I've

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Speaker 5: heard talking about civilians in Gaza. But there's very little

698
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Speaker 5: of this has translated into Congress, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: that much of it has translated into the voter base,

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Speaker 5: the sort of Republican body politic either. I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: how much of it has actually sort of escaped the

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Speaker 5: chambers of online right wing discourse, but it's definitely there.

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Speaker 5: And people you know in media Canvass has a huge viewership,

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Speaker 5: Ben has a huge viewership. So there's going to be

705
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Speaker 5: more polarizing polarization on this issue in the right going forward,

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Speaker 5: I think, especially the longer this lasts.

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Speaker 3: And so back in Washington, we had some actual class

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Speaker 3: war breakout in Congress and then also a couple of

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Speaker 3: petty ridiculous fights. We'll get to the pet petty ridiculous

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Speaker 3: fights at the back end of this. Let's start with

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Speaker 3: the class war. We can put up this first element here.

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Speaker 3: So there were union leaders came to the committee chaired

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Speaker 3: by Bernie Sanders to talk about some of their recent victories.

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Speaker 3: Sean O'Brien, the head of the Teamsters, had gotten into

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Speaker 3: a tussle which we're going to talk about in a

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Speaker 3: moment with Mark Wayne Mullin, who was also a real

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Speaker 3: person senator from Oklahoma. I was elected to the House

718
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Speaker 3: back in twenty twelve. Now over in the Senate, he's

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Speaker 3: run ran a plumbing company, which and that's going to

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Speaker 3: be relevant to this fight that we're going to see

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Speaker 3: break out. I didn't want to spoil too much of it,

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Speaker 3: so let's just roll this clip from the Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 3: Help Committee yesterday.

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Speaker 10: Boddy knows this here in the last time, him and

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Speaker 10: I kind of had a back and forth. Appreciate your

726
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Speaker 10: demeetor today it's quite different. But after you left here

727
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Speaker 10: you got pretty excited about the keyboard. In fact, you

728
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Speaker 10: tweeted at me one, two, three, four five times. So

729
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Speaker 10: let me read what the last one said, said greedy

730
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Speaker 10: CEO who pretends like he's self made. So I wish

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Speaker 10: he was in the truck with me when I was

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Speaker 10: building my plumbing company, myself and my wife was running

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Speaker 10: the office, because I should remember working pretty hard in

734
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Speaker 10: long hours. Hrtunds like he's self made. What a clown

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Speaker 10: fraud always has been, always will be. Quit the tough

736
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Speaker 10: guy act in the Senate hearings. You know where to

737
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Speaker 10: find me any place, anytime, cowboy. Sorry, this is a time.

738
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Speaker 10: This is a place. If you want to run your mouth,

739
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Speaker 10: we can be too consenting adults. We can finish it here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine, perfect, you want to do it now,

741
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Speaker 3: I'd love to do it right now.

742
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Speaker 10: We'll stand your butt up then you stand your button.

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Speaker 3: Hold stop it, no, sit down. You know you're United States.

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Speaker 4: Okay, sut down please.

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Speaker 11: All right, hold it.

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Speaker 4: That's a grandfather move.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean Bernie breaking up the fight before

748
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Speaker 3: we get into the background on why they went to

749
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Speaker 3: war like this, uh, anything you want to tell us

750
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: about Mark when mullin or like why is it?

751
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Speaker 4: Okay?

752
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Speaker 5: But also if you were listening, he stood up. So

753
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Speaker 5: if you were listening to the audio version of that,

754
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Speaker 5: Mark Waynemullen actually behind the desk stood up.

755
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Speaker 3: The camera didn't know what to do because all of

756
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Speaker 3: a sudden, Now it's just.

757
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Speaker 4: Like what the hell, cameras don't move that high?

758
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Speaker 3: Yeah, why did this guy just stand up.

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Speaker 4: They're not on a swivel. They're just in the same spot.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, he physically stood up as though he was

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Speaker 5: going to go down towards the witness stand.

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Speaker 3: Yes. And so back in March there was another hearing

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Speaker 3: of these same union leaders and the background is that

764
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Speaker 3: so Mark Wayne Mullen inherited his father's plumbing company in Oklahoma,

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Speaker 3: and it was a large company that was involved in

766
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Speaker 3: a lot of large product projects. And so the Teamsters,

767
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Speaker 3: the pipe fitters, which are part of the Teamsters, tried

768
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Speaker 3: to unionize Mark Wayne Mullen's company. They protested outside his house,

769
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Speaker 3: outside his business. Shame on Mark, Mark Wayne Mullen, you know,

770
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Speaker 3: this is very standard like union stuff that they were doing.

771
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Speaker 3: Drove him completely batty. So he confronted O'Brien last time.

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Speaker 3: So let's roll this first clip here.

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Speaker 10: I started with nothing, absolutely nothing. In fact, I started

774
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Speaker 10: below nothing, and I started growing this little plumbing company

775
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Speaker 10: with six employees to now we have over three hundred employees.

776
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Speaker 10: And back in two thousand and nine, you guys try

777
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Speaker 10: to unionize me. My guys were making money. They're getting

778
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Speaker 10: paid more than the union halls were paying their plumbers.

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Speaker 10: Our benefits were better. But because we started bidding jobs

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Speaker 10: at reunion jobs and winning those union fighte fitters decided

781
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Speaker 10: they were going to come after us. They would show

782
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Speaker 10: up at my house, they'd be leaning up against my trucks.

783
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Speaker 10: I'm not afraid of a physical confrontation. Fact sometimes I

784
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Speaker 10: look forward to it. That's not my problem.

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Speaker 5: So when most of the coverage of this was sort

786
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Speaker 5: of an inch deep and didn't go to this context

787
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Speaker 5: from earlier in the spring, which, whatever you think of

788
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Speaker 5: Mark Wayne Mullen, that is a much more substantive line

789
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Speaker 5: of questioning at a hearing then just going through someone's tweets.

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Speaker 5: It's so ridiculous, I mean again, Yeah, anyway, I was

791
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Speaker 5: glad that you dug up the context because it all

792
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 5: makes so much more sense when you recognize that this

793
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: goes back years between the two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is real, this is a real class war.

795
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Speaker 3: And so they he then so then Mark way Mullin

796
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Speaker 3: then presses O'Brien how much money do you make? They

797
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Speaker 3: then fight about, you know, how much the truckers who

798
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Speaker 3: work for the teamsers make, and then it finishes with

799
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Speaker 3: with this again, this is from last March, which predated

800
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Speaker 3: this near fight. So let's roll the last little bit

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Speaker 3: of this, sir, you what artworks schedule?

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Speaker 12: Secondly, ups feeder drivers and you can quote Carol Tomey

803
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Speaker 12: who quoted this, they make ninety three thousand on the

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Speaker 12: lower ends, some of them making.

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Speaker 3: Fifty thousand, I said, feeder drivers feeder drift. Try to

806
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Speaker 3: trailer drivers, some of them making a one hundred fifty

807
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars per year.

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Speaker 10: Tell them, dude that over you've been there four years.

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Speaker 3: Most of them make over a thousand. Okay, most of

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Speaker 3: them make over a hundred thousands.

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Speaker 10: Reclaim my time. I go back to the whole fact that, sir,

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Speaker 10: you haven't created a job.

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Speaker 3: We haven't.

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Speaker 10: You haven't been there, You haven't. Sure we have, you haven't.

815
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Speaker 3: Sure we have.

816
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Speaker 10: Tell me one job that you created.

817
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Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 13: Specific you're in a four nomp No, but you know

819
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Speaker 13: it's funny.

820
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Speaker 4: We create opportunity.

821
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Speaker 14: Job.

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Speaker 4: We create opportunity because we old.

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Speaker 10: We hold greedy CEOs like yourself accountable. You call me

824
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Speaker 10: a greedy seat.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, you are.

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Speaker 3: You want to attack my salary, I'll attack y'all.

827
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Speaker 4: What do you make?

828
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Speaker 3: What did you make when you own your company?

829
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Speaker 10: I made my company. I kept my salary down at

830
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Speaker 10: about fifty thousand a year because I invested every pinny

831
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Speaker 10: into it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, you mean you hid money? No I didn't. I.

833
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Speaker 10: Oh, hold on a second, Okay, he said, that's out

834
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Speaker 10: of line. Even we're not even, we're not close to me,

835
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Speaker 10: and even you think he's smart. You think you're funny.

836
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Speaker 4: No, you're not. You think you're funny.

837
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Speaker 10: No, I never said, did you open?

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Speaker 4: That's the you framed your statement.

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Speaker 13: Continue continue, But sir, this is I think.

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Speaker 3: I think it's so not not hard to see how

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Speaker 3: it rolled from that eight months later, Mark Waynemullen demanding satisfaction.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, listen, Mark waynemullen was right that

843
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Speaker 5: they were not even close to even because Sean O'Brien

844
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Speaker 5: got the best of him in that exchange, because again

845
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Speaker 5: he's the one testifying. He's not the United States senator

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Speaker 5: who's going through mean tweets from the podium. And also

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Speaker 5: another thing I'd like to say is I enjoyed that

848
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Speaker 5: both of the union leaders were named Sean, so Sean

849
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Speaker 5: Faine was also there, obviously the head of the U

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Speaker 5: a W. Sean O'Brien, as as Ryan mentioned as head

851
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Speaker 5: of the Teamsters. And they did have an actual exchange

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Speaker 5: about electric cars. And I'm not talking about Mark waynemullen,

853
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Speaker 5: but they were actually changes between the senators about electric cars.

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Speaker 5: The title of the committee's hearing was standing up against

855
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Speaker 5: Corporate Greed, How unions are improving the lives of working families.

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Speaker 5: And Bill Cassidy, a Republican from Louisianas said that this

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Speaker 5: was quote a taxpayer funded PEP rally for big labor unions.

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Speaker 5: Bernie Sanders says, quote, how do we create an economy

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Speaker 5: that works for all of our people and not just

860
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Speaker 5: the few? We have more wealth inequality than the Gilded Age.

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Speaker 5: Sarah Nelson was also there. Fain spoke about some of

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Speaker 5: his history that you've covered really in great detail for years.

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Speaker 5: He talked about the deals that were just made, and

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Speaker 5: it was there's so much substance right now when you

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Speaker 5: have all of these union leaders in front of you.

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Speaker 5: To ask him about mean tweets. I mean, do I

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Speaker 5: think that the head of the Teamsters should be tweeting

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Speaker 5: like that about us sentators?

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Speaker 4: Probably not, But my god, you're a senator.

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Speaker 5: Whose constituents are being affected by these deals every single day,

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Speaker 5: affected by these deals, and that you would waste the

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Speaker 5: people's time reading mean tweets because your ego is more

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Speaker 5: important than actual questions, because you want to push this

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Speaker 5: guy on personal beefs.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just thought was pathetic.

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Speaker 3: And also, if you actually wanted to get into a fistfight,

877
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Speaker 3: that's not the place to do it, because you know

878
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Speaker 3: you're gonna get broken up before the punches ever start

879
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: getting thrown. Yeah, you got to go actually to the

880
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,479
Speaker 3: Teamsters Hall. It's actually right on Capitol Hill at the building. Yeah,

881
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: you could call him and say, hey, let's meet me

882
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Speaker 3: down the sidewalk.

883
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Speaker 4: It's a nice building.

884
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Speaker 3: It's the nice thing they got.

885
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Speaker 4: Speaking of the Gilded Age, it's like literally a gilded building.

886
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Speaker 4: Incredible buildings. I just walked down there.

887
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Speaker 3: If he really wants to fight, so he just wanted

888
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Speaker 3: to clip, Yeah, and he knew Bernie wou wouldn't let

889
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Speaker 3: that happen.

890
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Speaker 5: One of the better exchanges Diana firsch get Ross. She's

891
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Speaker 5: at the Heritage Foundation and takes very predictable conservative positions

892
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Speaker 5: on energy policies, but she actually raised this really interesting

893
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Speaker 5: point about union jobs and electric cars. And this is

894
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 5: again one of the least discussed but most serious fault

895
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Speaker 5: lines happening right now. And any person who's cares seriously about,

896
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Speaker 5: like Sean Fain who does, has put a lot of

897
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Speaker 5: thought into where the Democratic Party wants to go. I mean,

898
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Speaker 5: the Biden administration struck a deal on renewable energy with

899
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Speaker 5: China yesterday. That announcement happened yesterday, and they were talking

900
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 5: about mean tweets. In this hearing, Dana furtchgitt Roth raised

901
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 5: this point, but that should have been I mean, if anything,

902
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Speaker 5: if Republicans in the Senate wanted to have a conversation

903
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 5: when you have all these union leaders in front of you,

904
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Speaker 5: it should be about that.

905
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: It should be about actually where the party.

906
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Speaker 5: That these in many cases unions are giving the political

907
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 5: on the political side that they're giving donations to. How

908
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: is that affecting the existence of the jobs that their

909
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 5: workers might be able to have in the next five

910
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 5: to ten years. Obviously a much more immediate and serious

911
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 5: question than why did you tweet that I'm a greedy CEO.

912
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Speaker 4: Or something like that.

913
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: So that was pettiness that kind of picked was over

914
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Speaker 3: top of an actually substantive difference. We have for next week.

915
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Speaker 3: Move the pettiness over a vote around round speaker. It's like,

916
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: looks like Kevin McCarthy gave somebody a kidney shot in

917
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Speaker 3: the hallway. Who voted against who voted to Alison from speaker,

918
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: let's roll this.

919
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: Explain to us what happened with you and Kevin McCarthy.

920
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 14: Well, I was doing an interview with Claudia from NPR

921
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 14: A lovely lady, and she was asking me a question,

922
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 14: and at that time, I uh got elbowed in the back,

923
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 14: and it kind of caught me off guard because it

924
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Speaker 14: was a clean shot to the kidneys. And I turned

925
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 14: back and there was there was Kevin and and I.

926
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 14: For a minute, I was kind of what the heck

927
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 14: just happened? And then I, you know, I chased after him.

928
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Speaker 14: Of course, he's a as I've stated many times, he's

929
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 14: a he's a bully with seventeen million dollars in a

930
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 14: security detail. You know, he's the type of guy that,

931
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 14: when you're a kid would throw a rock over the

932
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Speaker 14: fence and run home and hide behind his mama's skirt

933
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Speaker 14: and he just you know, he he uh from behind

934
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Speaker 14: that kind of stuff. You know, that's not the way

935
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Speaker 14: we handle things in East Tennessee. We we have a problem.

936
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Speaker 14: So might I'm gonna look him in.

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Speaker 7: The eye and okay, so he walked down the hallway

938
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Speaker 7: hit you in his album with his elbow.

939
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Speaker 14: You can you can go on Claudia's Twitter account. It

940
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Speaker 14: pretty much ex account. It's very accurate. Okay, So then

941
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Speaker 14: just explain, So he chased him?

942
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Speaker 11: What do you mean you chase?

943
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 14: I just ran after him. I was like, what the heck?

944
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Speaker 14: You know, why'd you do that? You know, because it was,

945
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Speaker 14: like I said, if you ever been hitting the kidneys,

946
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Speaker 14: it's a little little different. You don't have to hit

947
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Speaker 14: very hard.

948
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Speaker 5: Well, So at least he's giving McCarthy credit for being

949
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Speaker 5: precise that he really got him in the kidneys. I

950
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Speaker 5: think this whole thing might be giving Kevin McCarthy too

951
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 5: much credit for uh, you know, taking any type of

952
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 5: what aggression into his own hands. It doesn't seem like

953
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Speaker 5: something Kevin McCarthy would do, to be honest, but he

954
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Speaker 5: is right.

955
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 4: The NPR reporter has said that she witnessed this.

956
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: There you go.

957
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: That's Tim Burchett, by the way, who voted against McCarthy,

958
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Speaker 5: is one of the what McCarthy caused the quote hateful

959
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Speaker 5: eight voted against him.

960
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Speaker 3: So Matt Gates, the leader of the hateful age, the

961
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: crazy I also called him the crazy eights, Crazy eight Gates,

962
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Speaker 3: greats Gates, Crazy eights. Is that like it. He filed

963
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Speaker 3: a an ethics complaint, and so McCarthy has said the

964
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Speaker 3: entire thing organized against him was about Gates his own

965
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Speaker 3: ethics complaint, that McCarthy would refuse to halt. So now

966
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Speaker 3: Gates has filed an ethics complaint saying that it was

967
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Speaker 3: unethical to give a kidney shot in the back to

968
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Speaker 3: a member of Congress. McCarthy himself responded by saying he

969
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Speaker 3: didn't do it. He just kind of tapped him a

970
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Speaker 3: little bit. And if he hit somebody the kidney that

971
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Speaker 3: they would be on the ground. So this is the

972
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Speaker 3: kind of this is. So this is not the complete

973
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Speaker 3: state of Congress. We have one more even well, so.

974
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Speaker 5: We even have McCarthy's response, which is great. Right, Yeah,

975
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 5: here's what he said. If I hit somebody, they would

976
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 5: know it. If I kidney punched someone, they would be.

977
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 4: On the ground.

978
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Speaker 5: And to the point about they would know it, well,

979
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 5: I mean they're they're saying they do.

980
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: It's not on the ground. But he said it hurt

981
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: a lot. It's still hurt.

982
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 5: And I shouldn't say that it's giving McCarthy too much

983
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 5: credit for taking any aggression into his own hands, because

984
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Speaker 5: popping a guy in the back when he's not looking,

985
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 5: come on, not an honorable way to settle your dispute

986
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 5: with a hateful eight leader. McCarthy. If a former leader McCarthy,

987
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 5: if that's what happened. But what a ridiculous state of

988
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 5: affairs That only got more ridiculous.

989
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: In another hearing, Ryan, So there's an Oversight committee hearing.

990
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 3: James Comer starts out attacking Dan Goldman as a trust

991
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: fund baby, which no lives detected.

992
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 4: There sounds like he's been reading your Twitter.

993
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: There you go, and then he goes on, let's just

994
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 3: roll this one.

995
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 11: You and Goldman, who is mister trust fund, continue to try. No,

996
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 11: I'm not gonna give you your time back. We can

997
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 11: stop the clock. You all continue to You look like

998
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 11: a smurf here, just going around and all this stuff.

999
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 11: Mister chairman, you have and.

1000
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: So we fact checked this claim of him looking like

1001
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: a smurf. We can roll this. U're if you're watching,

1002
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're not watching and you're listening, he's

1003
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 3: got a smurf outfit on the kind of bright blue

1004
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: This is Jared Moskowitz.

1005
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 4: Bright had to toe fact check.

1006
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: True, fact check true, I feel confidence, back check rude

1007
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: and true.

1008
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, the counterpoints is able to verify the claims of

1009
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 5: Truman Comber Muskwitz looks like a smurf.

1010
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: He was probably also right in whatever that dispute was over. Oh,

1011
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: they were fighting about Comber's allegations.

1012
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 5: About some hunter Biden, right, yes, and they're going back

1013
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 5: to Holm.

1014
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: We're getting on over his skis on again on they

1015
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: were making me saying that he can prove more than

1016
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 3: you can actually prove.

1017
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 5: Well, they're making allegations about Comer's own family deals, and

1018
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 5: Comer sort of went off after that.

1019
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: That's right, because he thought he had a smoking gun

1020
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: because there was a check from James Biden to Joe

1021
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: Biden and they're like, look, two hundred thousand dollars moving,

1022
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: and the Bidens are like, look, he lent him money

1023
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 3: and he paid him back. What families do, And oh

1024
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 3: it turns out that Comer's family has done the exact.

1025
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: Same thing in this case.

1026
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 5: Agree with Comer that there's like the pattern of how

1027
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 5: that money moved is really specific. It's not definitive or conclusive,

1028
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 5: because you know, short of having a confession nothing would be.

1029
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 5: But actually like when the money was transferred, that when.

1030
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: The timing lines up, the timing with the Republican theory

1031
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: of the case here.

1032
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 4: And the amount of money.

1033
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely so if Democrats want to deflect to James

1034
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: Comer instead of dealing with the question of hunter bid

1035
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 5: and by all means go for it. We'll talk about

1036
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 5: you know who looks more like a smurf. We'll talk

1037
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 5: about if someone did pop someone in the kidney.

1038
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 4: We'll continue to get to.

1039
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 5: The bottom of these important questions if these are the

1040
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: important questions they choose to focus on.

1041
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, they did do actual legislative business. And whenever we

1042
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: move on to the actual legislative business of Congress, viewers

1043
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: also tend to move on elsewhere. So this time, let's

1044
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: try to keep people in suspense. Did they actually end

1045
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: the shut down yesterday but or not?

1046
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Speaker 5: And I would say also, they didn't actually do the business.

1047
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Speaker 5: And this is going to be the line that you

1048
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Speaker 5: have of legislation. This is the line you're going to

1049
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 5: hear from Freedom Caucus people, I think rightfully, so because

1050
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: they're punting on the question of whether how they should

1051
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 5: be funding the government. And so yes, right, and we

1052
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 5: can leave people in some suspense. We can put the

1053
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 5: first element up on the screen here because this happened.

1054
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Speaker 4: Before the decision Tuesday morning day.

1055
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Dems prepared to save another GOP speaker from

1056
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 5: a shutdown. So did DEM save another GOP speaker from

1057
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 5: a shutdown. Let's take you along for the ride. Here's

1058
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Speaker 5: a SoundBite from Chip Roy yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 13: I oppose the Continual Resolution, the so called extension of funding,

1060
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Speaker 13: which will continue the Nancy Pelosi spending levels, the Nancy

1061
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 13: Pelosi policy priorities, which you saw Congresswoman Gipaul the head

1062
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Speaker 13: of the Progressive Caucus, out applauding the fact that we're

1063
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 13: going to continue to spend twenty twenty three levels, that

1064
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 13: is the one point seven trillion dollars omnibus bill that

1065
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 13: Republicans roundly opposed last year. And now we have all

1066
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 13: of the credible evidence with move last week threatening the

1067
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Speaker 13: downgrade with respect to the outlook where we're seeing in

1068
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 13: terms of the Treasury auction last week, which was absolutely abysmal,

1069
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 13: because we know that under this administration we've raised interest

1070
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Speaker 13: rates some five hundred basis points, and for every hundred

1071
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Speaker 13: basis points, every one percentage, you get about one hundred

1072
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Speaker 13: and eighty billion dollars of additional interest expense. We are

1073
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Speaker 13: creating our economy by spending ourselves into oblivion, and we

1074
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 13: should stop that. Republicans ran on cutting spending, and we're

1075
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Speaker 13: going to continue to kick the can down the road. Now, look,

1076
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 13: I applaud not having the Speaker's position of not having

1077
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 13: an omnibus bill before Christmas. But you know the best

1078
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 13: way to do that is just tell Schumer. No, you

1079
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 13: don't have to have some magic tricks to do that.

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00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 13: Just tell the Schumer, no, you're not going to have

1081
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 13: an omnibus before Christmas. Instead of doing this bill where

1082
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 13: we kick it down to January and we pile the

1083
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Speaker 13: farm bill on top of it and spend five hundred

1084
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 13: billion dollars about four hundred million dollars sorry by January,

1085
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 13: to continue to wreck up debt, I think it's a mistake.

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Speaker 5: And so let's follow up with that actual clip of

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Speaker 5: Primilajia Paul applauding the deal that Mike Johnson was pushing yesterday.

1088
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Speaker 3: And the deal basically is Mike Johnson split the split

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Speaker 3: government funding in two. One of the spending bills would

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Speaker 3: expire at the end of January, around mid the end

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Speaker 3: of January. The other expires in February. So with that gimmick,

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Speaker 3: you kind of say, hey, I'm doing something as the

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Speaker 3: new speaker. What do you guys think of this? Keeping

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Speaker 3: spending levels where they are. Here's what Jayapaul, Congressional Progressive

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Speaker 3: Caucus Chair, said about this.

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Speaker 12: Look, I think two of the big things that we

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Speaker 12: wanted are in this bill. I mean it is a

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Speaker 12: big win that it is twenty twenty three levels, that

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Speaker 12: is what we've said from the very beginning, and that

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Speaker 12: it doesn't contain any poison pills. And so I think

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Speaker 12: those are very significant.

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Speaker 4: Wins for us.

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Speaker 12: I have had concerns about dividing up the you know,

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Speaker 12: the Continuing Resolution into two and separating it. To me,

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Speaker 12: that makes no sense. I think the reason Speaker Johnson

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Speaker 12: is doing this is because he needs to give a

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Speaker 12: bone to the Freedom Caucus. I worry that it's two

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Speaker 12: fiscal cliffs, but I think we're going to have to

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Speaker 12: weigh the fact that the Senate seems to have not acted,

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Speaker 12: and so I think it's a very big win that

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Speaker 12: it's twenty twenty three levels and nothing else.

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Speaker 5: So I was easy to pick up on Ryan's point.

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Speaker 5: So this is from Reuters. The legislation would extend funding

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Speaker 5: for military construction, veterans, benefit, transportation, housing, urban development, agriculture,

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Speaker 5: the FDA, and energy and water programs through January nineteenth.

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Speaker 5: Funding for all other federal operations, and that includes defense

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Speaker 5: then expires in February second, and so this is Mike

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Speaker 5: Johnson's as some people were saying, innovation is that he

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Speaker 5: laddered the CERs or tiered them. And Giapaul said there

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Speaker 5: she thinks that was the bone to the Freedom Caucus.

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Speaker 5: And the Freedom Caucus loved that clip of Giapaul guarantee

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Speaker 5: you because it says enhanced to them their argument on

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Speaker 5: a silver platter that Mike Johnson just made a deal

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Speaker 5: with Democrats essentially, and the vote yesterday, Ryan, here comes

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Speaker 5: the spoiler. We can put the next element up on

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Speaker 5: the screen. They passed it, and in fact the vote

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Speaker 5: reflected the Freedom coccuss argument that this was a deal

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Speaker 5: with Democrats. More Democrats ended up voting for it than

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Speaker 5: Republicans did. And it's now headed to the Senate where

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Speaker 5: it has to be passed by believe Saturday. The Senate

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Speaker 5: has to pass this bill by Saturday. It is going

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Speaker 5: to be tough with certain senators. How this ends up happening,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think probably they'll get to the votes.

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Speaker 5: But to the point about poison pills, Republicans wanted to

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Speaker 5: tie this to a lot of different things.

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Speaker 4: The border they wanted to tie it to.

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Speaker 5: They figured they could tie it to different things. Basically,

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Speaker 5: the Farm Bill got rubber stamped yesterday. I mean, a

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Speaker 5: huge piece of federal spending got rubber stamped yesterday for

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Speaker 5: another year because they couldn't get to a deal on that.

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Speaker 5: In and of itself is a huge piece of news.

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Speaker 5: Because Washington fusses over the Farm Bill for a year

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Speaker 5: basically before it's set to be reauthorized, the think tanks

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Speaker 5: have a field day. Everyone's trying to figure out where

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Speaker 5: they can get their little goodies because it's so much money.

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Speaker 4: Is rubber stamp for the next year yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And so ninety three Republicans voted no on Speaker Mike

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Speaker 3: Johnson's plan here and only two Democrats voted against it,

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Speaker 3: so he kind of the Republican Party split basically, you know,

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Speaker 3: roughly down the middle. Democrats overwhelmingly supported this or like whatever.

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Speaker 3: Now it doesn't have funding for Israel, it doesn't have

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Speaker 3: funding for Ukraine, and so the Democrats and McConnell had

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Speaker 3: been hoping that they would use you know, the specter

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Speaker 3: of a government shutdown to get both Ukraine and Israel

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Speaker 3: funding through. Now it seems like they're going to have

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Speaker 3: to use the specter of there not being enough Israel

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Speaker 3: funding in order to get the Ukraine funding through as well,

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Speaker 3: or wait until January February to lavish money on these clients.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think that's exactly where we stand right now. And

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Speaker 5: the point is a good one. That Okay, So to

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Speaker 5: avoid the Christmas shutdown, which Congress hates for personal reasons.

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Speaker 4: Let's be real, nobody likes it because it doesn't make

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Speaker 4: anybody feel good.

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Speaker 5: About their country going into the holidays. It's not fun

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Speaker 5: for staff, it's not fun for Congress people, and it's

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Speaker 5: it's definitely not fun for the public either to watch

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Speaker 5: the country, you know, seem to be in shambles. But

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Speaker 5: that's you know again, the Republicans just are boxed in.

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Speaker 5: Mike Johnson is boxed in the Freedom Caucus. What they

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Speaker 5: would have wanted is some as Jiapaul would put it,

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Speaker 5: poison pill. There's nothing in here about the irs. There's

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Speaker 5: nothing in here about the border.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And that to them is there's nothing even though there's

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Speaker 5: no Ukraine or Israel in it. That this has been

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Speaker 5: sort of disentangled for now. We'll see what the Senate

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Speaker 5: has to say about that. It's saying we control the House.

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Speaker 5: Voters elected us to control the House, and you're going

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Speaker 5: to pass a spending bill with Democrats. Well, from Mike

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Speaker 5: Johnson's vantage point, there's one person motion to vacate that

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Speaker 5: Matt Gates used and the quote hatefully used, spent weeks

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Speaker 5: tied up just trying to figure out who the speaker

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Speaker 5: would be.

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Speaker 4: That's why they're on the crunch time.

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Speaker 5: That's why they don't have time to talk about the

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Speaker 5: farm bill. So why they don't have time to or

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Speaker 5: find a deal on the farm bill, it's why they

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Speaker 5: didn't have any time to find consensus. Even if they

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Speaker 5: had more time, they would it would almost be impossible

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Speaker 5: to come.

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Speaker 4: To any consensus on.

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Speaker 5: This anyway because of you know, the one person motion

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Speaker 5: of vacate being used, and just really it's the numbers.

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Speaker 5: There's just Mike Johnson's numbers game that he has to

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Speaker 5: play unless he wants a government shutdown, which people in

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Speaker 5: the Freedom Cocass say is fine that you know, Republicans

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Speaker 5: would be fine you let Chuck Schumer shut down the government,

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Speaker 5: Let Joe Biden shut down the government.

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Speaker 4: Even though of.

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Speaker 5: Course the media is never going to take that argument

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Speaker 5: and give it to the American people.

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Speaker 4: You're stuck. You're stuck.

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Speaker 3: So it brings us to our next segment. So while

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Speaker 3: it looks like we're not going to have a government

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Speaker 3: shut down at least until January or February, or maybe

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Speaker 3: a half government shut down January, the other half in February. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: we put this element up here. The goldilocks soft landing

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Speaker 3: that the FED has been talking about appears to be

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Speaker 3: actually getting closer to reality. Yesterday, the market boomed on

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Speaker 3: inflation data that showed no change in prices from month

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Speaker 3: to month, which is the first time that that has

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Speaker 3: happened in the last you know, basically since we started

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Speaker 3: getting inflation went eighteen nineteen months ago. And so for

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Speaker 3: the regular consumer, they don't want to see prices there

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Speaker 3: where they are. They want to see prices come down. Now,

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Speaker 3: careful what you wish for. Deflation can have some far

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Speaker 3: more corrosive effects sometimes than inflation, because you start to

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Speaker 3: see because the system, the system is not built to

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Speaker 3: work in reverse, and you will start to see job

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Speaker 3: losses like you haven't seen since two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 3: You could have maybe some very gentle inflation for a

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Speaker 3: little while, but not not for long. It just throws

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Speaker 3: everything for a loop in a system that is premised

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Speaker 3: on infinite growth, not not de growth. However, this news

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Speaker 3: added to people's optimism. And when I say people, i'm

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Speaker 3: talking about like bond traders and like money people, their optimism.

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Speaker 4: Bonders are people to bond traders are people too.

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Speaker 3: They're optimism that there wouldn't be further interest rate hikes

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Speaker 3: by by the federal by the Federal Reserve. Do you

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Speaker 3: think there are any political implications of this or do

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Speaker 3: you think that the the idea that the economy is

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Speaker 3: worse for many people is so baked in that that's

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Speaker 3: that that's just is what it is at this point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the Biden administration and actually

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Speaker 5: we have a clip of Koreem John Pierre kind of

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Speaker 5: getting pressed on so called Bidenomics that we might as

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Speaker 5: well actually just roll right now as we're talking about this,

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Speaker 5: let's let's roll the next clip here.

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Speaker 12: And I'm gonna keep going.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep go to keep I'm gonnakeep.

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Speaker 9: Going ahead working, but I'm just gonna want they just

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Speaker 9: keep ahead.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 9: Stream Meta Platform said that it's going to require advertisers cringe.

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Speaker 5: Jean Pierre not really wanting to get into the question

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Speaker 5: of of is Bidenomics working, because they rolled out that

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Speaker 5: term Bidenomics ahead of twenty twenty four, and I've noticed

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Speaker 5: it's kind of falling flat, falls flat with people who

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Speaker 5: are on the left, falls flat with independence, falls flat

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Speaker 5: with people on the right, does really well with the

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Speaker 5: key Krugman demographic. Paul Krugman loves it.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: He's said it makes no sense, like consumers are crazy

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Speaker 5: to say the economy isn't working for them. Bidenomics is

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Speaker 5: doing just fine. I'm paraphrasing him there. I don't even

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Speaker 5: know if he's used the word bidenomics, but basically, the

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Speaker 5: economy is doing all right. The other political question here

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Speaker 5: is obviously the FED, and that one I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what even Biden wants the

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Speaker 5: FED to do at this point.

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Speaker 3: And there was a poll recently that said that the

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Speaker 3: public wanted Biden to focus more on inflation and they

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Speaker 3: felt like Biden was focused more on jobs and unemployment.

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Speaker 3: And I think for what people need to remember is

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Speaker 3: that if you're under the age of between thirty and

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Speaker 3: thirty five, you didn't let's just say under third, if

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Speaker 3: you graduated in twenty fifteen, graduated college, say twenty fifteen

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, you have experienced economic growth and shrinking unemployment

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Speaker 3: every year basically except for that weird pandemic year, but

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Speaker 3: then you had so much kind of federal stimulus pumped

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Speaker 3: in that for the last ten years. So yeah, if

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Speaker 3: your early thirties, you don't know what it's like to

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Speaker 3: be in an economy that has a ten percent unemployment

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Speaker 3: rate and the way that that can crush the soul

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Speaker 3: of not just every individual who experiences that unemployment, crush

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Speaker 3: the soul of the entire country, which turns in on

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Speaker 3: itself and completely drains the labor force of its strength

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Speaker 3: and of its militancy. Like this, all of the all

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Speaker 3: the gains that we're seeing from unions are undergirded and

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Speaker 3: would not be happening without the unemployment rate being what

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Speaker 3: it is now three point nine percent. Is if you

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Speaker 3: push back against your boss and you try and you say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I am interested in forming union, and

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Speaker 3: you get fired, you can go get another job, and

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Speaker 3: so I get it. People like things are more expensive,

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Speaker 3: like it sucks that that part of it sucks. The housing,

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Speaker 3: housing and rent situation is a complete catastrophe. But I

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Speaker 3: think people have forgotten. I'm glad they've forgotten, but it's

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Speaker 3: it's leading to I think, taking for granted the idea

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Speaker 3: of being in a tight economy where you can get

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Speaker 3: a job if you need one.

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Speaker 5: Have you watched Dumb Money yet? The Hollywood take on

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Speaker 5: the Game Stop situation. No, it's very, very good and

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Speaker 5: one of the characters and it explains actually how the

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Speaker 5: recession in eight affected her family.

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Speaker 4: She's in college at the time of the Game Stop.

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Speaker 5: Situation and actually ends up gambling on the stock to

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Speaker 5: pay for her student loan debt. And so I think

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Speaker 5: for people who are you know, in frankly my age,

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Speaker 5: that are in their their early thirties and maybe graduated

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Speaker 5: college round the time period you said, or have graduated

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Speaker 5: college recently, they have in the last couple of years

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Speaker 5: been yanked around on the student debt question to a

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Speaker 5: point that is just untenable. I think part of that

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Speaker 5: is why credit card delinquencies are going up, because people

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Speaker 5: don't know where their money is going to go. And

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Speaker 5: so I think the kind of Kraugman take on the

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Speaker 5: economy that we've seen not just from him, but from

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Speaker 5: other sort of professional economists misses that for example, if

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Speaker 5: you're in California, what you're paying for gas is insane,

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Speaker 5: And if you happen to be in your early thirties,

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Speaker 5: what you've been dealing with in student loans in the

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Speaker 5: last couple of years is also crazy. They're just it's

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Speaker 5: so uneven. Things feel really uneven to people. You're experiencing

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Speaker 5: it in different ways at different times for different reasons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's great that people are employed at the

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Speaker 3: same time, Like you said, if your money has run

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Speaker 3: out by like the twentieth of every month, and you're

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Speaker 3: spending every month the last week and a half of

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Speaker 3: that moving things around and just holding your breath, you know,

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Speaker 3: waiting to get to the next next month, and then

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Speaker 3: as soon as the next month comes, your rent or

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Speaker 3: your mortgagees do, so you're pushing that back. Like if

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Speaker 3: that's how you're constantly living, and that describes tens of

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Speaker 3: millions of people, if not even more, then I understand

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Speaker 3: why you know, there's so much hostility around it. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, unemployment under four percent was previously

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Speaker 3: thought impossible, Like they economists came up with the term

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Speaker 3: called natural rate of unemployment narrow, which they were guessing

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Speaker 3: was five or six percent. They completely made this phenomenon up.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing natural about an economy. Is a construction of

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Speaker 3: a society, doesn't come from the earth or something.

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Speaker 5: Well, we also have the highest level of working age

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Speaker 5: men out of the workforce that we've had since like

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Speaker 5: the nineteen sixties. Like that is another part of the

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Speaker 5: economy that I think feels pretty awful to people too,

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Speaker 5: That there are some people who don't even feel like

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Speaker 5: it's worth it to look for work anymore.

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Speaker 4: And so when we have low unemployment that high level.

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Speaker 5: Nick Ebersat has done an economist, he's done work on

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Speaker 5: that question of working age men outside of the workforce.

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Speaker 4: That question of just abject.

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Speaker 5: Misery is another good one that I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: when you're trying to figure out this picture of how

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01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 5: low levels of unemployment are translating into these you know,

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Speaker 5: questions of is the economy working for us? As the

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Speaker 5: president doing enough for us, I feel like that's another

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Speaker 5: important part of it.

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Speaker 4: It just does not get talked about enough at all.

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Speaker 3: Although even the labor force participation right rate is doing

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Speaker 3: better than.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot of women back in the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yes, there's a lot of bleakness out there.

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Speaker 3: There's also a lot of things that are going much

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Speaker 3: better than they used to be. And what's interesting is

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Speaker 3: that if you take any particular economic indicator and say

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Speaker 3: this is why people are feeling hurt, and then you

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Speaker 3: roll it back ten fifteen years, you find that the

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Speaker 3: economic indicators worse back then, yet people felt better about it.

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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that has to do

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Speaker 3: with the debt people have around student debt, the cumulative

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Speaker 3: price increase, and also the inability to find sustainable housing.

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Speaker 3: It plus fears about the future, I think fit into

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Speaker 3: a lot of this. So it's an interesting moment where

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Speaker 3: we have people in misery, feeling miserable, yet also some

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Speaker 3: of the many of the economic indicators better than they've

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Speaker 3: been in a lot of people's lifetimes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I just think to close the loop on this,

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Speaker 5: especially since this is our last show before Thanksgiving and

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Speaker 5: it's thanks were preparing for.

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving meals next week.

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Speaker 5: There was an American Farm Bureau Federation analysis of Thanksgiving

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Speaker 5: dinner prices that I saw on Axeos this morning.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at it now. This is what's really interesting

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Speaker 4: it is down in total.

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Speaker 5: They sort of put together their standard package of a

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Speaker 5: Thanksgiving meal. Down in total compared to last year. That

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Speaker 5: is still up twenty five percent compared to twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 5: which is really interesting because it gets to the Reagan

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Speaker 5: reelection line, ask yourself, are you better than you were?

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01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 5: Better off than you were four years ago? And politicians,

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 5: whether they're Democrats or Republicans always want to be able

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Speaker 5: to ask some version of that question. And you know,

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Speaker 5: for the suburban moms that the Biden campaign really wants

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Speaker 5: to win back, we're the ones that do a lot

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Speaker 5: of grocery shopping and you know, cooking and are looking

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Speaker 5: at some food prices. Where As Matt Stoller would accurately

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Speaker 5: argue there's a lot of consolidation and supply chain issues

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Speaker 5: post COVID, they're still real and that weren't the fault

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Speaker 5: of Joe Biden. They were the fault of of the

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Speaker 5: COVID economy. They're the fault of a worldwide pandemic. Some

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Speaker 5: of that is still trickling into prices, and that twenty

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Speaker 5: nineteen comparison on food stuffs, things like milk still that's

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Speaker 5: I think when you're it's hitting people's pocketbook in one

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Speaker 5: of the more visible ways, just the ways that they

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Speaker 5: feed their family, and that is unfortunate for the Biden

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Speaker 5: administration and something they were going to have to, i think,

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Speaker 5: answer for in the next year.

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Speaker 3: Let's turn to our regular update on the effort to

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Speaker 3: impeach Alejandro Majorcas.

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Speaker 5: This is another we covered the If you look on

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 5: the screen, you see just the fight block. We covered

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01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 5: a lot of fights in that block, but not all

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 5: of them. It gets but wait.

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Speaker 4: There's more.

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Speaker 3: So what are they upset with Mayorcus for now?

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01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 5: So Marjorie Taylor Green and we can put the first

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Speaker 5: element up on the screen for this one. Marjorie Tayler

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 5: Green tried to send a vote to impeach Mayorcus to

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Speaker 5: the floor yesterday. So I'm reading here from the Associated

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 5: Press the House voted Monday to push off or This

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01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 5: was this happened on Monday, to push off a Republican

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01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 5: effort to impeach my Orcus, ending for now a threat

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 5: against the Cabinet secretary that has been brewing ever since

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 5: Republicans took the House majority in January. Marjorie Tayler Green

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01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 5: forced to vote. She forced the vote Ryan on impeaching

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Speaker 5: mayericas to the floor through a rule that allows right.

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Speaker 5: It allows any single member to force a snap vote

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01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 5: on resolutions, including constitutional matters such as impeachment. Eight Republicans

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01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 5: joined with Democrats to vote two oh nine to two

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01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,480
Speaker 5: OHO one to send her resolution to committees for possible consideration.

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01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 5: Like any other bill, they are under no obligation to

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Speaker 5: do anything. Green then takes to the floor and accuses

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01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 5: me Orcus of quote a pattern of conduct that is

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Speaker 5: incompatible with the laws of the US, and she cited

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Speaker 5: as the AP says record numbers of illegal border crossings

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 5: and influx of drugs, and quote his open border policies.

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Speaker 5: She then went off on Republicans yesterday, we can put

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Speaker 5: the next element up all on the screen. This is

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01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 5: a tweet not at darryl Isa, but about darryl Isa

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01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 5: from Marjorie's Taylor Green.

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Speaker 4: Daryl Isa is right.

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Speaker 5: I am a hard working member of Congress who puts

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Speaker 5: the American people first. Green tweeted, but we all know

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Speaker 5: what darryl Isa lacks.

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Speaker 4: Dot dot dot.

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Speaker 5: And then there's an emoji of a football, an emoji

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01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 5: of a basketball, an emoji of a baseball, an emoji

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01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 5: of a tennis ball, and even Ryan an emoji of

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 5: an eight ball, which you initially took a second to get.

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 3: I was like, what's going on? I wasn't In my defense,

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01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 3: I was, I guess I wasn't entirely focused on her posts,

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 3: so I didn't absorb it, and like, what's going.

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01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 4: On at the bottom there you had in your coffee either?

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01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 13: Yeah?

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01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 3: Why is a tennis ball green?

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01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? So why is a tennis ball? You think

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01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 4: it should be yellow?

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01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 3: I guess yellow doesn't show up very well.

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01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah the emoji isn't the emoji always green?

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Speaker 3: I guess, But I just I guess I've never used

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01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 3: a tennis ball emoji before.

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Speaker 4: Surprising for a middle aged white man.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 4: How about that?

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01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? How about that? Didn't even know there was? When?

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Speaker 3: Of course there is?

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Speaker 5: Though, But actually, in all serious sness, we do have

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01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 5: border numbers and it makes sense. So the reason that

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Speaker 5: I think this is fairly important news is that CBP

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Speaker 5: released data yesterday saying that it apprehended nearly a quarter

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Speaker 5: of a million people at the US Mexico border in October.

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Speaker 4: So a quarter of a million people.

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Speaker 5: That's actually a decrease from September's numbers, and that's how

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Speaker 5: a lot of the media ran with the story. So

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Speaker 5: illegal border crossings into the US drop in October after

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Speaker 5: a three month streak of increases. Again from the Associated Press,

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Speaker 5: still it's actually a record high for all Octobers in history.

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Speaker 5: That's a you know, that might be the headline rather

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Speaker 5: than they decrease a record high for October. So last

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Speaker 5: month it did have the all time record high of

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Speaker 5: two hundred sixty nine thousand, seven hundred and thirty five apprehensions.

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Speaker 5: That means more than two point four to seven million

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Speaker 5: on the year, So now that's about two and a

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Speaker 5: half million for the year. That also broke the number

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Speaker 5: for the record of migrants attempting who are on the

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Speaker 5: government's to watch list in September, which is in the

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Speaker 5: entire context of what's happening in the Middle East as

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Speaker 5: well Indian migrants. There was a story, and I think

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Speaker 5: it was The New York Times about how there's surging

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01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,799
Speaker 5: numbers of people coming from all over the world, desperate

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Speaker 5: people who may not qualify technically under our asylum laws,

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01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 5: and maybe we should change those asylum laws. But people

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Speaker 5: who are going to be in limbo for the next

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Speaker 5: couple of years waiting for those asylum laws and may

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01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 5: end up having to go home after their case, you know,

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Speaker 5: actually makes its way through the court system, or maybe

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Speaker 5: their case never will make its way through the court system,

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Speaker 5: and they will have these sort of shadow existences that

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Speaker 5: are very sad and difficult in sanctuary cities actually, like

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Speaker 5: the one that Chi Jinping is visiting today, Ryan, So

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Speaker 5: Republicans really did want to go after mayorcus.

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01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 4: They thought that.

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Speaker 5: Maybe still people, if you talk to people in freedom

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01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 5: coucass circles, still wish that instead of abiden impeachment, the

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01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 5: House had focused all of its political might on a

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Speaker 5: Mayorcis impeachment, because what's happening at the border is something

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Speaker 5: that you can really persuade independence with, and something that

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01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 5: you can really persuade you know, republic the Republican base

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01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 5: and centrist Democrats with in a way that you can't

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 5: with Hunter Biden in a way that you can't with

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01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 5: sort of that back and forth and law fare over

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01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 5: subpoenas and whatever else. And I mean, I think the

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01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 5: bottom line is that you have a quarter of a

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Speaker 5: million people every month now being caught in our political crisis.

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Speaker 3: I just don't quite get why impeaching majorcis is the

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01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 3: thing that they're focused on rather than putting well, I'm

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01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 3: about to answer my own question, rather than putting forward

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01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 3: their own solution legislatively and then kind of forcing the

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Speaker 3: question there because.

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Speaker 5: Like they did pass it, I mean they passed I

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Speaker 5: think it's HR two and then put it into that

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01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 5: was one of the poisons, right, the primila Jiapaul was

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Speaker 5: talking about, but it is then it goes to Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 5: and Chuck Schumer says, the House knows that this is

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Speaker 5: not starter, and it was a non starter from his

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Speaker 5: perspective because you know, basically Democrats have a really hard

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Speaker 5: time getting around any changes to.

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Speaker 4: Asylum law, right, and that is like really the.

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Speaker 5: One thing that has to be confronted, and obviously I

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Speaker 5: have we may disagree on what that is, but Democrats,

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Speaker 5: that is their non starters.

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Speaker 4: Is starting to have this conversation about asylum law.

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Speaker 3: And impeaching a cabinet official just seems kind of like

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Speaker 3: a funny concept to me, because what do you think

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Speaker 3: that he's rogue and like Biden is telling him to

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01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 3: do one thing and he's out doing something different. So

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Speaker 3: you get may orcus out. There's still going to be

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01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,839
Speaker 3: a Biden Cabinet secretary who's running the Department of Homeland Security,

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Speaker 3: So what do you You impeach him the first day.

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Speaker 3: But also you need two thirds in the Senate, which

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Speaker 3: obviously it won't even get up floor boat in the Senate,

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Speaker 3: let alone get anywhere near the two thirds that would

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01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 3: be needed. So it's a way to highlight the question,

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: you know, elevate the issue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: And Daryl all Issa said, quote the history. He said

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Speaker 5: that Marjorie Taylor Green lacked the maturity and the experience

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01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 5: to understand what she was asking for. And the reason

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Speaker 5: for that, I think is this question of privileged resolutions,

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01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 5: the force the vote type of resolution, which he says,

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01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 5: they're brought to the majority by the majority leader or

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01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 5: the minority leader. Privilege resolutions are not have not historically

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01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 5: been brought by one member. When they do come from

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01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 5: one member, they're most often referred to committee, as it

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01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 5: was yesterday. So Margeri Taylor Green didn't it did not

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01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 5: have a support of her own party to do this,

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01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 5: not even from people, I think who are substantively on

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01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 5: her side of the question. And that's interesting because dere Issa,

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01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 5: you've covered this longing that I have is right about

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01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 5: the history of the privileged resolution.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, about forcing the.

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01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 3: Vote, Yeah, you're not Yes, he's right.

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01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 3: And it's Keim McCarthy back in there who could tell her,

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01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 3: like how this works culture?

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01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well, and you know she's not wrong that

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01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 5: her base doesn't give a damn about dryl on the

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01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 5: history of privileged resolutions. The average Publican voter, let alone

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01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 5: the average Republican voter in her district, darryl Issa would

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01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 5: tell them that.

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01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 4: They'd be like, yeah, so what dream swamp.

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01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 5: Like, we have a quarter of a million people coming

1566
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 5: over every month and you're talking to me about the

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01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 5: history of quit privileged resolutions and parliamentary procedure wouldn't really

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01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 5: make a difference, but it does make a difference in Congress,

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01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 5: you know, when you're trying to make actual law. It

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01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 5: does make a difference how you relate to your colleagues

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01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,440
Speaker 5: and how you're able to use the various parliamentary mechanisms.

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01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 4: And this was an alp Marjorie.

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Speaker 5: Tiller Green, although I think probably a w in the

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01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 5: public relations from her goals.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of the that's a mo right, All right,

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01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 3: well I'll do it for us today. Let me finish

1577
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Speaker 3: with a plug. If you haven't picked up your copy

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Speaker 3: yet of The Squad, AOC in the Hope of a

1579
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 3: Political Revolution is kind of a sequel to my last one.

1580
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 3: We've got people. If you like that, you're like this one.

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01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 3: If you didn't read that, you don't have to. It's

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:02,440
Speaker 3: still you don't have to stands on its own. It's

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01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 3: a sequel, but you can just jump in. Can you

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01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: just jump into the Marvel movies if you've never seen

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01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 3: the other ones? Or do you kind of need to

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01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 3: start from the beginning, You're not asking the right person, okay?

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 3: Us any idea which I went with?

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01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 4: A Marvel movies ESK Sager.

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Speaker 5: But no, I've heard great things about the book. I'm

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01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 5: excited to read it. It's out December fifth.

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Speaker 3: Out December fifth, kryst Andal. I will be at Politics

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Speaker 3: and Pros November twenty seventh, if you're in DC. I'll

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01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 3: have some other events elsewhere that I can talk to

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01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 3: you guys about.

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01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 4: So can I come and hackle?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Excellent, excellent.

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01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's all kinds of great stuff about the Squad.

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01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 5: So I'm excited to crack it open. We won't be

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Speaker 5: here next week because of Thanksgiving. Reminder, though, a week

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Speaker 5: from today is the anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy,

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01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 5: So another thing that we'll certainly be thinking about in

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Speaker 5: the week to come.

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Speaker 3: There's a Paramount plus documentary that I really want to

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01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 3: watch that has apparently seven of the operating room doctors,

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01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 3: oh amazing, changing their story about what happened that actually

1607
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: there's an entrance wound, not an exit wound. So maybe

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01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 3: we'll solve the assassination of Kennedy.

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Speaker 4: In the next week.

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Speaker 5: Next week, stay tuned to Counterpoints for that. And that's

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01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 5: why you should go to breaking Points dot com and

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Speaker 5: you get the full video. You don't have to go

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01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 5: through separate videos on YouTube playlist.

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Speaker 4: It goes right to your inbox.

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Speaker 5: You get all of Counterpoints there instead of just a

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Speaker 5: few videos on the YouTube side. But we really appreciate

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Speaker 5: everyone watching. We hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: See you on the other side.