WEBVTT - Toothbrushes, Bank Accounts, Passwords… How Much Should Couples Share?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks, it is Saturday, July twenty fifth, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would do anything for love, but you want to

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<v Speaker 1>know my location on my phone? But I won't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that really a hangout, dude? Couples fight about whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not you can track them on their phone? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>But can I just please acknowledge how exciting that just

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<v Speaker 2>was for me to have you use a Meatloaf lyric

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<v Speaker 2>in your intro. Oh, I didn't know it was a

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<v Speaker 2>Meatloaf lyrics And thankful that's meat loaf.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so exciting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that just started this whole episode off in

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<v Speaker 2>a different way than I was not expecting.

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<v Speaker 3>TJ just quoted meat loaf.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't expecting that either. My my black friends weren't

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<v Speaker 1>expecting that. They're starting to see the results of dating

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<v Speaker 1>a white woman for five years.

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<v Speaker 3>You got yacht rock on the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>That's yacht rock.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's in the category. Yes, it's it's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a slow rock yacht rock. Yeah, it's yat rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I didn't even know that was a meat Loaf song.

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<v Speaker 1>Meat What was this genre?

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<v Speaker 2>I would do anything for love meat loaf in general,

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<v Speaker 2>the dashboard like yeah, but I think it is yat

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<v Speaker 2>rock like.

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<v Speaker 3>People who look like me like meat loaf.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you people who look like me usually quoted we

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<v Speaker 1>eat meat loaf. But it makes sense. Folks are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about people we have known and we still now most

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<v Speaker 1>in love. People just love great relationships. They have these

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<v Speaker 1>limits and it's a weird thing. What is the big

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<v Speaker 1>deal about allowing your partner to track your location at

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<v Speaker 1>all times?

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<v Speaker 2>Some people think it's creepy. Some creepy like it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like that. Also do another song private eyes. They're

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<v Speaker 2>watching you, they see your every move. It's it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it feels invasive and oppressive to some folks. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that if you feel that way, if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want someone knowing where you are, you should actually

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<v Speaker 2>question whether or not that's a symptom of a larger problem,

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<v Speaker 2>because I actually can go back and think about other

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<v Speaker 2>relationships and how that would have bothered me. Couldn't care

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<v Speaker 2>less if you track my location now doesn't bother me

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<v Speaker 2>at all. In fact, I think it's sweet. It's about safety,

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<v Speaker 2>it's about protection. It's not about surveillance.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's important. Then that's a you thing. It would

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<v Speaker 1>bother you before. Why do you Why would somebody have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with one partner tracking them and not problem

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<v Speaker 1>with a partner in a different.

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<v Speaker 2>Relationship, Because I think it speaks to my level of

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<v Speaker 2>comfort and safety with you.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also think, look, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, and not that I did before, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just we're always together, so it's silly the true Let's

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<v Speaker 2>actually just go on the record and say we don't

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<v Speaker 2>follow each other. And I would if you said, hey, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd really like to do it. Location service is on

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<v Speaker 2>for you, no problem, and you would feel the same bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I've every time this comes up. It's a safety issue

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Of course I should know where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you should know where I am. Rodes you

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<v Speaker 1>take off. We run together all the time, but on

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<v Speaker 1>the occasions we don't. You walk out the door, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>which way are you going? I want to know which

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<v Speaker 1>route you're taking? God forbid, something happens, Roes. We live

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City. A manhole cover can blow off

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<v Speaker 1>and the city goes into terrorism lockdown. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know where my loved ones are and you are that

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<v Speaker 1>it's safety. I don't care who in their right mind

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<v Speaker 1>robes who is not up to anything, gives a damn

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<v Speaker 1>if their spouse knows exactly where they are. It's oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you only care if you're telling them one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're doing enough, you're doing another. That's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>What other scenario is there? Baby?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And again we're bringing this up not just about Life

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<v Speaker 1>three sixty in tracking people, but because we did a

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<v Speaker 1>recent article with Yahoo that got this conversation going.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes.

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<v Speaker 2>They asked us basically, how much should you share with

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<v Speaker 2>your partner? And look, we're talking everything from locations to passwords,

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<v Speaker 2>to bank accounts to beauty products to you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>are your boundaries? And so we all have them and

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<v Speaker 2>we actually it was kind of fun because I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>realized we hadn't really sad town and thought about what

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<v Speaker 2>do we share? And this came from a conversation that

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<v Speaker 2>gen Zers apparently are fearful of dating in the digital

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<v Speaker 2>fish bowl, so they don't like the whole location sharing,

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<v Speaker 2>relationship statuses, Instagram follows, likes, comments.

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<v Speaker 3>All this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It creates a whole new layer of how much do

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<v Speaker 2>you give? How much do you share with your partner.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are lines I think all of us, boundaries,

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<v Speaker 2>all of us have in place, and they're different for

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<v Speaker 2>each couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask, does this it changes? Of course if

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<v Speaker 1>you're dating somebody, two months is different from two years. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>But in the are we speaking here in a general

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<v Speaker 1>sense of people who are in significant, serious, committed relationship, Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And so we were asked what we sh and

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<v Speaker 2>you and I started going down the list and.

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<v Speaker 3>We figured pretty much almost everything.

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<v Speaker 2>We share a bed, we share some beauty products, facewash,

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<v Speaker 2>face cream, toothpaste.

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<v Speaker 3>We just merged all of our streaming services. That was long.

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<v Speaker 1>Overdue and very expensive for.

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<v Speaker 3>Not sharing it. Yeah, we share passwords.

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<v Speaker 2>I know your phone and computer password, vice versa. We

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<v Speaker 2>share chapstick. You don't love it, but in a pinch,

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<v Speaker 2>you will give it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Always in a pinch. You have to be desperate.

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<v Speaker 3>You do have a joke though.

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<v Speaker 2>There are times when we're out running, say and I

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<v Speaker 2>forget to bring because I am a chapstick lipstick, lip

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<v Speaker 2>gloss addict.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to have something on my lips at all times.

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<v Speaker 3>In the rare moments I have forgotten it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have asked you, babe, Can I please have some

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<v Speaker 2>of your chapstick?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you say to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it? It's yours?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, that's you say it, but you don't mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of do you know about I carry two

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<v Speaker 1>in my pocket at all times? You know that when

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<v Speaker 1>I run, only carry one?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>And we share bank accounts and so all of these

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<v Speaker 2>things are just things. We kind of rattled off pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easily. But then when we went to what we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't share, we started laughing. And I feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>should be universal for me. This is an absolutely not

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<v Speaker 2>I think I put an expletive in there when I

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<v Speaker 2>talk to yahoo toothbrushes. I don't care if you forgot

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<v Speaker 2>yours and we're on vacation, use your finger or go

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<v Speaker 2>find a CBS.

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<v Speaker 3>But you are not using my toothbrush.

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<v Speaker 1>No circumstance on the winch that happen. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>where we are, where we doing, I don't care. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. In fact, my dentist even told me it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. He said, yeah, the brushing of the teeth

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<v Speaker 1>is more so about just most people want to have

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<v Speaker 1>fresh breath. He said, you need to floss, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you always flossing. As long as you floss, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be oky. We're gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can just floss and not use your toothbrush.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, People don't share toothbrushes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think people have absolutely In a pinch, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they do it. I don't think they do

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<v Speaker 2>it regularly. But in a pinch, we're saying no. That

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<v Speaker 2>is still about eva.

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<v Speaker 1>What's a pinch like on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're in a place like you got to some

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<v Speaker 2>remote airbnb. You can't call the lobby for a toothbrush

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't have yours.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to be at this airbnb for the

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<v Speaker 1>next seven days and we can't go out at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Still not enough of.

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<v Speaker 2>A we agree now this one you for you have

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<v Speaker 2>forgotten your deodoran a couple of times, and I have offered,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I don't love the idea of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You absolutely said, Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Not happening. Just some stuff's too intimate. It's not happening.

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<v Speaker 3>The deodorant I don't mind is much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an armpit, it's a it's a sacred area that

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<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't share things that don't there, shouldn't it just me,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think people do that either.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a pinch, Get a pinch. This is what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's another one in a pinch where I I

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely would use your deodorant if you allowed. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it without you asking or without you saying yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would absolutely use your razor if I needed to,

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<v Speaker 2>But you said you would not use mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Another intimate part. It's a it almost feels what is that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a hygiene issue right in your leg

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<v Speaker 1>to my face. I don't know about that. And you

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<v Speaker 1>could nick yourself, you could get cuts, and you could

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<v Speaker 1>bleed and no, no, no, no, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one that I thought didn't matter, but then

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<v Speaker 2>we had a conversation about it, and I started to

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<v Speaker 2>get it. So people get upset about sharing, like being

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<v Speaker 2>okay with likes comments could be a different story.

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<v Speaker 3>But you, I said, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't care whoever whoever you like on a social media

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<v Speaker 2>page or whatever, if I can see who you've liked,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking at what you've shared. Look, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it would bother me unless you kept liking, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>like specific women who weren't me. That might get a

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<v Speaker 2>little strange, but you said you thought it strange no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what, to have a grown man sitting around.

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<v Speaker 3>Liking another woman's post. Sweetheart, that's what you said. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a quote here from you.

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<v Speaker 1>See I'm forty eight. If I was online on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and Sabrina Carpenter posted something, I put a thumbs up

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<v Speaker 1>a heart, what what are you talking about? So now

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<v Speaker 1>let's take it to somebody, a local, somebody a local,

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<v Speaker 1>even somebody you know. In that public space, you are

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<v Speaker 1>publicly acknowledging giving approval to someone of the opposite sex

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<v Speaker 1>that anyone who sees you doing that might not understand

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship of the dynamics. You are sending a signal

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is disrespectful to your relationship. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>it might be innocent, it's still you should ever do.

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<v Speaker 2>That, right And so the only reason why you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to share your Instagram profile with your partner is

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<v Speaker 2>that you might be doing things like that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>would still think you can see the shared or at

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<v Speaker 2>least you can see the likes. This is what you

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<v Speaker 2>compared it to, and I thought this was hilarious. You

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<v Speaker 2>probably don't even remember saying this, but I wrote it.

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<v Speaker 1>Down walking down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>You compared it to walking down the street holding hands

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<v Speaker 2>with your woman, and you keep complimenting every other woman

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<v Speaker 2>passing by.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that feel terrible? And again, not just complimenting

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<v Speaker 1>to your woman, it's complimenting the woman by saying it

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<v Speaker 1>directly to her as you're walking down the street. Oh ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that skirt, Oh fresh haircut, Good job, sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm right here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing that makes sense that.

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<v Speaker 1>People have a different thing. You know that, But I

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<v Speaker 1>that's one.

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<v Speaker 3>When you said it like that, I came around and

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<v Speaker 3>got it now.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing people can question about what you should share,

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<v Speaker 2>how much information about past or other.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationships, whatever's asked you, You don't offer anything. All you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know is I was married once. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was for this long.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I want to ask questions, what went wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Anything you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Where did you start having problems you? And why did

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<v Speaker 2>you end up getting divorced? Those are all things I

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<v Speaker 2>think that should be answered, if asked. If not answered,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not ever bring up an X without your current

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<v Speaker 1>spouse or partner asking. There's no reason you and I

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<v Speaker 1>would be sitting around and I started talking about college. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she used to cook those ribs just like that. What what?

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<v Speaker 3>But people do it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>We see it on dating shows and you say why

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's a really good rule. Don't offer

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<v Speaker 2>up any unsolicited information about anyone you have past relationship with,

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<v Speaker 2>but answer all questions and be transparent if you're asked

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>What about sharing secrets that someone told you not to share?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you share it with your significant other?

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<v Speaker 1>Cecurt that somebody told you not to share? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's a basic thing, not somebody. But that needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be explicit. Someone needs to explicitly say I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to not share this with anybody that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Including your spouse, including your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that's a rule for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>You should say that if you're going to share a secret,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be specific. Don't share this with your spouse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of an understanding robes we just talk about everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Look agreed, But do you think it's wrong to not

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<v Speaker 3>share it?

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<v Speaker 2>What if it had something to do with one of

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<v Speaker 2>your friends, Like say I had information about someone or

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<v Speaker 2>something in your orb and I was specifically given this

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<v Speaker 2>information and told not to tell you between your spouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think it's okay to honor that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think whoever told you to keep that from me

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<v Speaker 1>as an asshole. Seriously, how it's about me, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>my search, that's okay. That's a very specific and different scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>but generally speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>Some just random gossip.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, No, No, you you're supposed to honor anytime someone

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<v Speaker 1>asks you not to share a secret.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you on that, but I think if

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<v Speaker 2>it pertains to your spouse, I think I would then

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<v Speaker 2>have to tell my friend. You can't tell me something

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<v Speaker 2>that affects us my partner, or affects someone or something in.

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<v Speaker 3>His world with.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't expect me not to tell them. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's unfair to believe someone won't tell their partner. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're silly if you think someone isn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>I think most people do tell each other. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think you just have to have that boundary with

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<v Speaker 2>a friend who has some information. Look, don't tell me

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<v Speaker 2>if I can't tell my spouse, or don't tell me

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<v Speaker 2>if it affects my spouse.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're saying I can't tell you and Nikki.

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<v Speaker 1>Comes to you, I need to tell you something, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can't tell to youj.

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<v Speaker 3>She would know not to say that to me. She

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<v Speaker 3>knows I would tell you, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we went over all the things we shared and

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<v Speaker 2>how it was such an interesting conversation, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>encourage everyone to have it with their partners because it

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<v Speaker 2>is funny to find out maybe some boundaries that you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know each other had. But when we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to absolutely talk about our deal breakers.

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<v Speaker 2>We absolutely this would be relationship ending if these things

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<v Speaker 2>weren't shared. Welcome back everyone to a very fun, interesting

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that we had here with some Yahoo producers. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>you can look it up. It's on Yahoo. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a whole article out there about what's too much and

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<v Speaker 2>how much do you share with your partner and what

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<v Speaker 2>the deal breakers are. And this was kind of an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and I was a conversation we had, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was glad we were on the same page pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>throughout this entire back and forth. And some of the

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<v Speaker 2>deal breakers. If you have somebody who you are in

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<v Speaker 2>a serious, significant relationship with and they push back on

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<v Speaker 2>having a joint account, we both agree there are certain

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<v Speaker 2>things you don't hide, that you don't not share, and

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<v Speaker 2>among them, maybe even one of the most important things

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<v Speaker 2>is money. Money, hidden money, unshared money. Not having an

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<v Speaker 2>open conversation or a transparent conversation about money, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>deal breaker.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know. People have their reason. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to respect other people's situations and desires, And of

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<v Speaker 1>course we can, and then you can run to people.

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<v Speaker 1>We have disproportional incomes and money in the bank that

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<v Speaker 1>can play into it, and prenuptial agreements, and one person

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<v Speaker 1>filthy rich and one person that's not. But we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that. We're just for the sake of this.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking about a regular old ruther Mill couples.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, to each he's or her own. I

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<v Speaker 1>just it's certainly when you start, from the moment you start,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a household together, every dime that comes in

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<v Speaker 1>that I make, it should be going to the household.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to build a separate life. So every

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<v Speaker 1>dime I make, once a relationship starts and a significant

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<v Speaker 1>one and we have a household and kids, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the money goes into one place. All this money is

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<v Speaker 1>coming into the house for this house and this life

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<v Speaker 1>that we are living. So I don't why still I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand it. We're married, you have a job. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a job. I get my check, it goes over

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<v Speaker 1>here this account. You get your check, it goes over

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<v Speaker 1>there to that account. That is not something I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>been on board with, even though I've always been by

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<v Speaker 1>far the highest earner in my relationships. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>guess this would be to my disadvantage and it has

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<v Speaker 1>burned me tunes quite it has. But still, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I am. I just I don't know. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it where I'm from and I was when I was

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<v Speaker 1>raised around? I don't know, But that's.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the way it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that would just just I think when you when

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like someone isn't being someone's hiding something, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a power dynamic that comes with all of that. Pushing

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<v Speaker 2>back on location, we again, we haven't done it. But

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<v Speaker 2>if either one of us, if I said, ooh, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I want you to follow me, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I want you to have my location services, what

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<v Speaker 2>does that say to you as my partner?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing yet until I ask why I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your answer. I really, I don't know. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a good reason I'm listening? You know, I'm fairly fair

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<v Speaker 1>in these situations. All right, let me hear it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am open. I'm not immediately offended. No, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to hear what that logic is. So why, then, sweetness,

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<v Speaker 1>do you not want to share your location?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Okay, I was asking. Oh no, I let's do

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<v Speaker 3>it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We should actually at the end of this podcast, we

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<v Speaker 2>should share each other's locations.

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<v Speaker 3>It's literally a one poop a slide and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we've been the rest of the day right next

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<v Speaker 1>to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's the thing, that is the absolute truth.

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<v Speaker 2>We have not needed to do it because the only

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<v Speaker 2>time is if we run separately at different times during

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<v Speaker 2>the day.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really the only time we're not together.

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<v Speaker 1>We should share it at some point. Is sometimes one

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<v Speaker 1>of the funniest things I see. We have got to be.

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<v Speaker 2>We.

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<v Speaker 1>I would put us up against in a competition the

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<v Speaker 1>engage the couple that texts each other less than us.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nobody. If you look through our text exchanges, you

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<v Speaker 1>are the person I text least because I'm sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>Next to you, right, and it's all work stuff, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm texting things to you to put up on.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the title and rundown for the next episode. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Only thing I text you is work stuff, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the argument is by not sharing, you're hiding.

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<v Speaker 3>It's lying by omission.

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<v Speaker 2>It still feels deceptive if you're refusing to share the location.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think there's a an explanation that makes

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<v Speaker 2>any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, take that role for just a second. Just

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<v Speaker 1>take a moment right now, Just be the woman who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want her man or fiance that they've been together

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<v Speaker 1>for five years. He wants her to give up the

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<v Speaker 1>location so he can track her. She says no, Now

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<v Speaker 1>make a legit. Put it together right now? An argument

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<v Speaker 1>for sweetheart, I don't want to do that, because just

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<v Speaker 1>take the role on, even if it's not in your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me some reason, baby, I don't want you to

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<v Speaker 1>follow me because I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Just supposed to make something up. Because it feels oppressive.

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<v Speaker 2>A because it feels oppressive because I just don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the idea that somebody knows where I am at all times.

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<v Speaker 2>I like my freedom, I like my privacy, and in

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<v Speaker 2>moments if I want to go, and you've upset me

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to go to a park and sit

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<v Speaker 2>in my car and cry.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't necessarily want you to be able to follow me.

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<v Speaker 1>The sweetheart, we haven't had a fight in twelve months,

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<v Speaker 1>so the car part I don't necessarily understand. But why

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<v Speaker 1>why did you feel you need privacy from me? We

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<v Speaker 1>share a home, we share a toothbrush sometime, even so

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<v Speaker 1>why do you need privacy from me?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes that feels like a lot, and I just need

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<v Speaker 2>my space. It's just who I am as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you get the space you have it, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not there with you. But as a matter of safety,

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<v Speaker 1>why is it that this is something you oppose?

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't feel totally independent and private if I

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<v Speaker 2>know that you know where I am. There's just something

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<v Speaker 2>about the idea of it, That's all I can tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels like it's surveillance. It doesn't feel like safety.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like surveillance.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel, like, sweetheart, that I am oppressive in

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<v Speaker 1>such a way that I surveil you? I know I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know sincerely, because there's something I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do Differently, I would never want the woman that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend the rest of my life with to

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<v Speaker 1>feel that I'm some secret service agent hovering above her

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<v Speaker 1>life all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're trying to make the point that there is

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<v Speaker 3>no good.

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<v Speaker 1>Harris, I'm not. I'm actually trying to hear a legit reason,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to hear one that I would go, oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just that that's the only thing I

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<v Speaker 2>can think of, other than you're doing something you shouldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're going somewhere you didn't tell them where you

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<v Speaker 2>have a shopping addiction, or you have a boyfriend, or

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing someone that you don't want them to know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no other.

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<v Speaker 1>You finally gave me something I could go with I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't maybe not have to do with some other guy

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<v Speaker 1>or some other relationship. We've seen these stories all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at the casino, you're hiding stuff in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm at the shopping mall, I'm at the casino.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think, where do I ever go that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't tell you that I'm going, or I sneak

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<v Speaker 1>and go.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what the only time would be if

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<v Speaker 3>we're buying gifts for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, I'm a TJ Max.

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<v Speaker 3>That's funny. And then the last one was passwords.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that if you refuse to share a

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<v Speaker 2>password for your phone or for your computer, I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that I can't think of a legitimate reason other

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<v Speaker 2>than distrust or you're hiding something, because why would you care?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't care private location to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, but I don't care. You can look at

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<v Speaker 2>my phone, there's nothing on there now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>I also know that you're not going to be reading

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<v Speaker 2>my private text messages with my girlfriends, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you feel comfortable, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't want to be with someone who I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel comfortable about that. And look if I thought

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<v Speaker 2>if I left out my diary right there, if I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you might read it, I wouldn't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship with someone like that. That for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a major major issue with anyone who eavesdrops,

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<v Speaker 2>or read someone's private I don't know, documents, letters, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>opens people's mails, mail, listens in on conversations like, there

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<v Speaker 2>are certain personalities like that, And you're right, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Give my password to that kind of a person. But

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that one seems more pride. I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>made the argument that you didn't want me to know

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<v Speaker 1>the password to your iPad, to your laptop, to your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>I would maybe understand that a little differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, but we've given them to each other. See, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have a problem. I think you need to out

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<v Speaker 2>of venience.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times, hey babe, can you open my phone

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<v Speaker 1>and da da da we need it? How many times

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<v Speaker 1>am I driving so convenience?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not for anything other.

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<v Speaker 2>I would never ever look even when I see a

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<v Speaker 2>message pop up on your phone, I don't go and

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<v Speaker 2>look over and see who's sending that, Like we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>like we a little color coded for our girls. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, I think a child is trying to read you,

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<v Speaker 2>because mind her pink and so is Bean. I can

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<v Speaker 2>see her little emoji. I like, I think Bean's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get you. That's that's about it, So that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can understand doing that. But you've got to I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's that's one of the biggest things in trust.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to have trust in a relationship, or

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<v Speaker 1>send a message of trust in a relationship or that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not hiding something. Let the other person have all

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<v Speaker 1>your passwords.

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<v Speaker 3>Here you go. I'm an open book. I do think.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think if you don't want that, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>hesitant to share information, if you're hesitant to share things period,

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<v Speaker 2>you just I think you just need to get curious

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<v Speaker 2>with yourself, ask yourself why, and trust your gut. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason why you don't want to, And we're not

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<v Speaker 2>here saying you should. If you don't want to, and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think you should, then you should go deeper

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<v Speaker 2>about why and then get into the relationship itself. And

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<v Speaker 2>what is it about that relationship that makes you not

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<v Speaker 2>want to share?

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<v Speaker 1>And some people are just different and you can have

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful relationship. Can you not and still not want

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<v Speaker 1>to share your location and share your passwords and still

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<v Speaker 1>be in a great relationship?

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed right to each their own.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is fascinating to have the conversation with your

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<v Speaker 2>loved one just to see where you both stand, because

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<v Speaker 2>you might be in the same place and you might

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<v Speaker 2>be on opposite that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people have had this? Wow, there's some people

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<v Speaker 1>right now who have not mentioned how much they're annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't have their loved ones passwords. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>even talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you should talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe this has sparked some combos. Those are always a

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<v Speaker 3>good thing. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you

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<v Speaker 3>listening to us. I mean you Robot alongside TJ. Holmes.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk sim