1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm a homegrown that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Laurie came, Hey, y'all, what's up. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 3: It's Lauren l. Rosa and this is the latest with 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: Lauren L. Rosa. This is your DELI dig on. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: All things pop culture, entertainment, news and the conversations that 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: shake the room. Now today if we're checking in behind 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: the scenes of the Grind And no, we haven't checked 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: it in a while. It's been some time. I don't it's 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: not that I don't know how I feel. I guess 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: that there's like a level of. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: Shock and sadness. 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Yesterday the news broke that Malcolm Jamal Warner uh tragically 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: passed away in a drowning. 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: He was on a family vacation in. 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Costa Rica when he went into the water and was 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: taken down by a current and did not survive. He 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: was pronounced dead on the scene after being rescued by 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: some bystanders and you know, just didn't survive. Which man 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: just even talking about it right now, we're talking about 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: it this morning on the Breakfast Club. Make sure you 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: guys will check out all our coverage over there as 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: well too. When we got finished our first segment, I 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: said to Just and I'm like, yo, I'm literally shaking, 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: And I think what the feeling is is just like man, 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: death is. 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: It can be so sudden and just so unplanned. 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Not that anybody plans, you know, something like this, but 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: I feel like he's been such a staple in entertainment 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: and black storytelling my whole life. So it felt like, 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: you know, this was somebody close to me, because I 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: think I text someone and said, man, like, this is 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: just so crazy. It came out of nowhere, and the 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: response was, that's normally how death happened. We're getting on 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: into the latest right now, because you know, as we 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the passing of Malcolm Jamal Warner. 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's all over the news today, right and 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: it was yesterday, all over the headlines, all over the news. 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: It's anything everybody is talking about any and everybody are 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: talking about it. 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: I went on like a deep dive just now. 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: And prepare for the podcast because I'm like, you know, 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: I want to talk about michaelm Jomo wanna on the podcast, 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: but I don't want to just report it as news 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: like I don't want to just say, Okay, here's what 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: happened here, how here's how you passed away. We did 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: that in the beginning. You guys got that, But I 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: think that with this, it's like it's hard to just 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: treat this as just a headline, which is very crazy 51 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: for me to say, because you know, I live in 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: a world of headlines. But this just feels so different 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: because of the you know, untimely like the untimely passing, 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: like you know, just how this came about and the 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: story behind it, and you know, hearing him talk so 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: much about family and his daughter and you know, his 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: wife being in love with his life, and his daughter 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: being a lover of his life, and just having to 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: think about, you know, all the people that loved him 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: being without him now. I don't know, it just doesn't feel 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: good to make this just a story, just the headline. 62 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: So I wanted to dive a bit deeper here and 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: have a conversation about the passing of Malcolm Jamal Warner 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: and some of the work that he left this earth doing. 65 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people, I know for myself, 66 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: when we think about what we want people to say 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: about us after we can't say it ourselves anymore. I'm 68 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: always thinking about like impact and what that looks like 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: and how am I shaping that even if in the 70 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: beginning the beginning stages, and I went to Malcolm Jamal 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Warner's podcast, i'd seen, if I'm being honest, I'd only 72 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: seen one episode of his podcast prior to this, and 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: then I saw the promos of Envy and Gia on 74 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: his podcast prior to this. But this was my second 75 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: episode that I watched, And this episode that we were 76 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: going to feature today in our conversation is actually one 77 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: of not even one. It was the last sit down 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: episode that Malcolm Jamal Warner did on his podcast. So 79 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: it's an episode called why the Hood Deserves More Respect? 80 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: Georgia and Me speaks the truth and it features a 81 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: conversation that is extremely interesting. 82 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: So in this episode Not All. 83 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: Hood, which is the NA podcast by Malcolm Jamal Warner 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: and his co host Kandae Kelly, they sit down with 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: a poet. She's also an actress and an activist. Her 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: name is Tamika Georgi and Mee Harper. So she's known 87 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: for being a part of HBO's Deaf Poetry Jam. 88 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: She was also on. 89 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: Broadway as well, and they have a real conversation. The 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: description here says, this is a masterclass and radical self love, hood, pride, 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: and the resilience of Black creativity. 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: Georgia me apologetically uplifts the. 93 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: Hood as a sacred space of community, survival and joy. 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: She also delivers powerful insight on the gentrification of Atlanta, 95 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: the misrepresentation of black stories in the media, the commodification 96 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: of struggle, and the need to honor working class Black 97 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: America Americans. So they have a ton of conversations here. 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: In this conversation, they start off just talking about the hood. 99 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: For anyone that was raised in the. 100 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Hood, whether you stayed and you built your life, you know, 101 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood you grew up in or you moved 102 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: and you know, do you go back and forth to 103 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: where you're from or whatever the case may be, You 104 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: instantly kind of get the sense of what the conversation 105 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: is like that tribal. It takes a village feeling that 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: you really understand only if you grew up in a community. 107 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 3: Interlocked being black and growing up in the hood. 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: It has its things, but the sense of community and 109 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand next to you, not behind you or 110 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: in front of you, because we need to do this together. 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: Is different, especially if you're from different generations as well. 112 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: So let's take a listen to the conversation on the 113 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: hood and how the hoood is shown in the media. 114 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: What the media shows us is one side of black culture. 115 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: It's the hood side, and of course, and the hood side, 116 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: you know, ALTI historically is what has always created American 117 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: culturehood and then it becomes mainstream exactly. But I just 118 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: loved your I just I loved your take and your 119 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: reminder that the hood should be as celebrated as the 120 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: rest of the lanes of black culture. 121 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 4: We thrive because there's devised planned for our demise every day, 122 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: so for you to still smile, still find ways to 123 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: make it. 124 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: And then in the hood, we help each other. 125 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: Poor people help each other more than rich people. 126 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: All day. 127 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: In my neighborhood, my whole life growing up. We don't 128 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: just borrow some sugar. Ain't no thing about no sugar. 129 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: I might borrow a whole chicken from missus eighty across 130 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: the street, make a whole dinner. 131 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: And bring her plate. Get what I'm saying, that's my hood. 132 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: They then get into a conversation right, because once you 133 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: then once you start to have a conversation about the 134 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: hood and the way it's. 135 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: Perceived, and you know kind of how things used to be. 136 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: To an extent, I think right now because of the 137 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: things that we're dealing with, like you know, people really 138 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: really don't have money, they really really don't feel like 139 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: there's hope. You have all of the things that people 140 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: have dealt with before in our civilization and in our neighborhoods. 141 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: But now things are personified because you have social media 142 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: personifying everyone who's not in the hood or even the 143 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: people in the hood that are doing well. So it's 144 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: easy to make one person feel less then because of that, 145 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: or it's easy to paint a picture of a neighborhood 146 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: or a group of people from a certain area for 147 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: lack thereof right. 148 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: So then they. 149 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Start getting into the conversation of black excellence in black love. 150 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: And this stems from comment. 151 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: That Malcolm Jamal Warner made about his experience or like 152 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: his learning of black soldiers like actual soldiers. 153 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to that. 154 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: And it was that conversation. So before I have a thing, 155 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: we talked about a lot of time. I have a 156 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: thing about black excellence and black love. Like you, when 157 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: you put black in front of it, it makes it 158 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: a subset of that thing. But then when I started, 159 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: you know, having this argument with him, not argument with 160 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: discussion about the history of black soldiers for the first time, 161 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: it made me think of black excellence in a different way, right, 162 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: like the because black excellence now is attributed to fame 163 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: and money. Never so that's been my issue never for 164 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: me with it. But now when I'm looking into the 165 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: story like black Black survival in end of itself, is 166 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: black excellence. 167 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Because we've always had to supersede do better and more 168 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: things that have been putting our way to cross over. 169 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: Now the reason why I thought that this was like 170 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: fire and I'm like, yo, if I'm an you know, 171 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: do a segment on Malcolm Jamal Warner for Malcolm Jamal Warner, 172 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: for the Latus with Laurna Rosa. I want to have 173 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: a conversation almost like a teaching of like Okay, here's like, 174 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: you know, some thing that he was, you know, set 175 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: on teaching and putting into the world. 176 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: Because I don't know. 177 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: I was watching this episode and I'm like, you know, 178 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: I might not agree with everything that's being set here, 179 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: but the notion that we need each other more than 180 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: we are willing to allow ourselves to act on. In 181 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, I felt it. 182 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: It's like it's hard to get around. 183 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: It's hard enough to think about, it's hard enough to 184 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: have a conversation about. 185 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: As a media personality. 186 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: I remember when I moved to LA, I was told, 187 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: don't do the black stuff, like you don't want to 188 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: be the black girl, Like, make sure if you're doing 189 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, the beets or the this or the that, 190 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: you don't just cover black news or black music or 191 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: black this or black that. And if you do get 192 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: a job outside of the black entertainment realm, make sure 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: you don't become the black girl that only does the 194 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: black things. And then I remember coming to Breakfast Club 195 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: and feeling so good about being able to do the 196 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: black things and being able to really speak to those 197 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: things because those are the things I grew up on. 198 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: Some of the stuff I can have conversations about in 199 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: my sleep because I grew up hearing it, watching it, 200 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: knowing who these celebrities are, watching them grow in their 201 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: careers and things of that nature. Y'all, Like it f'd 202 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: my mind up when I made this transition because for 203 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: so long I was like to Malcolm Jamal Warner's point 204 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: of putting black in front of things, black love, black excellence. 205 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Right even with like me having a conversation about being 206 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: a business owner, black business owner, black entrepreneur, black. 207 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: Journalists, I always felt like. 208 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: If I leaned into those things, I would always end 209 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: up with less than And that is not the way 210 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: that I was raised in my neighborhood, and you know 211 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like those are not the morals and 212 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: the backbone of the things that made people where I'm 213 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: from great. Understanding who you are and like understanding why 214 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: black is so amazing, and understanding why being able to 215 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: go out into the world as a person who knows 216 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: all of that is such a superpower. You get into 217 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: the world of things where you're then hearing so much 218 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: about the disparities and what we don't get and how 219 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: things are unfortunate and just all these things right for me, 220 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: it was like I wanted to run from it. I 221 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: didn't want to be black excellence, Like I just wanted 222 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: to be excellent. 223 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: Conversations like these. 224 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: Where people are like behold on, but why not, like 225 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: let's reacenter and really think about, like how much of 226 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: a privilege it is to even be able to be 227 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: a part of Like think about your family reunion, right, 228 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: or like whatever tradition. 229 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: Is amazing in your family. 230 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: And I'm talking to black people specifically a lot like us. 231 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if I go how many white listeners 232 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: I got or others any other race. But right here, 233 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: this is a this is for us. But think about 234 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: something really sacred in your family. So for my family, 235 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: it's our family reunions. And we do this thing called 236 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: the mother daughter sleepover. And we've been doing it since man, 237 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: like I was maybe two years old, and it's so 238 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: special and it's something that not everybody gets to experience. 239 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: And when I speak from that experience or when I 240 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: operate in the world as a person that grew up 241 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: in love like that, right, like a family that is whole, 242 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: that gets together, that loves on each other, when I 243 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: operate in the world off of that, the way that 244 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: things are received literally has changed my life. One of 245 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: the biggest things that people say to me a lot 246 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: is is they talk to me about my family, like 247 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: how I was raised like my mom, my grandmother, And 248 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it until I begin to talk about 249 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: it that like everybody don't have that, Like, not everybody 250 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: has a family that gets together for every holiday that 251 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: celebrates the mothers in their family. And it's a legacy 252 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: tradition that really understands wholeness and like, you know, that 253 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: warm feeling of tribe and community. Not everybody has that. 254 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: When I got in LA and I got any spaces, 255 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: like you know they're talking about, like Malcolm Jawon Warner said, 256 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: these soldiers were fighting for these privileges that they didn't 257 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: even get to enjoy. Right, the only difference between journalists 258 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: and black journalists is the experience and the expertise that 259 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: I bring. And that's an asset anywhere, and I might 260 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: not be able to, you know, always get to enjoy 261 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: all of the fruits of my labor because you know, 262 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm black and I'm a woman and all of these things. 263 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: But like, who's to say that what I'm doing isn't 264 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: excellent and that I can't love it and I can't 265 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: continue to do it and work for it. And you know, 266 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: like this conversation made me think about that feeling of 267 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: and maybe that was like an identity battle too, right, 268 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: because you're in these spaces where you feel like you 269 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: have to convert, you have to shrink the world as 270 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: a black woman who shows up Like I'm telling you guys, 271 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: like I think when you are part of a community 272 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: in a neighborhood and the hoods like what they are 273 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: talking about, and you think about the good things that 274 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: come from it, the learning to survive, the understanding of culture, 275 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: of family, of I got you no matter what, of 276 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: whatever you need right, being able to hold those things 277 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: and those pillars that you learned throughout your whole life 278 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: literally changes your life. It puts you on a pedestal 279 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: that is so amazing. Like you have these black soldiers 280 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: that Michael Jamal Warner is talking about, who you know, 281 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: even though they're trying to erase it, they're being written 282 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: about in these books right and and talked about throughout history, 283 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: not just because they're like, you know what, we just 284 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: want to go be soldiers. 285 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: You couldn't get around the fact that they were black soldiers. 286 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that their upbringing, their families, their faith 287 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: that they were in still with made them operate in 288 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: ways that allowed them to achieve the great things that 289 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: they did. 290 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: Even under those circumstances. 291 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: Where they didn't even get to enjoy the fruits of 292 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: their labor, but it made them great talking about them today. 293 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: So as I'm thinking through like the. 294 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: Malcolm Jamal Warner passing, and you know, just man, I remember, 295 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: I remember watching a Cosby show and that was my 296 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: first time ever seeing a black family all in one house. 297 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: Like I swear to you, that was the first time 298 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: I ever saw it. 299 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: In that way where like they weren't struggling, like they 300 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: were dealing with life, but they weren't struggling like they 301 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: were doctors and they were astute, and their kids were 302 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: going to college. And think about that, like, imagine if 303 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Malcolm Jamal Warner has said, I don't want to be 304 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: on this show because I don't want to be the 305 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: black son on the black show that's talking only two 306 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: black people. What I'm talking about is a sense of 307 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: pride that these hoods and these neighborhoods instill in us. 308 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: And when I put that parallel to like the life 309 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: and the legacy of Malcolm Jamal Warner from what I 310 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: grew up watching and how I felt about him from 311 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: my you know what I mean, like just watching him 312 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: and my household and growing up on The Cosby Show 313 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. It's like taking who you are, 314 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: where you're from and being able to teach through whatever 315 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: gift it is that God gave you to be able 316 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: to do so can literally change people's lives and you 317 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: can't run from that, and he didn't. He was so 318 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: intentionable about the things that he did. I'm thirty three 319 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: years old, and I will say that this year has 320 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: really taught me about intention and being intentional. And I'm 321 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: not the best at it all the time, you know, 322 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: but I've learned a lot about it. But when I 323 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, look at people like him and what he's done, 324 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: that wasn't just a one off show for him. He 325 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: lived every moment after that and intentional, intentionally speaking to 326 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: black people and doing things that bettered people, even if 327 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: people didn't agree with him all the time. So definitely 328 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: want to send, you know, a rest and peace to him. 329 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: And man, I can't imagine what his family is going 330 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: through right now if we feel like this, and you know, 331 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: we're you know, selfishly because this is a character. 332 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: Well he had a character that we grew up on. 333 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: But you know, Charlottinne was talking a lot today on 334 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: the show about like the man, you know, Malcolm Jamal Warner, 335 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: the man and not THEO the character we you know 336 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: in our loving Theo from the Cosby Show. The character 337 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: are devastated and we're shocked and we just have so 338 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: many questions. But imagine those who loved and got to 339 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: experience malolm Jamal Warner as the man and how they 340 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: feel right now, you know, like, so definitely take some time, 341 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: send a prayer for them. Legacy, like that's that's just 342 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: the only place you can end something like this is 343 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: legacy and thinking about legacy because if nothing else, those 344 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: you know, family members, those friends who know Malcolm Jamal 345 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: Warner the man, that is what they're going to have 346 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: to hold on to. Now, thank you guys so much 347 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: for tuning in. This has been another episode. I know 348 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: that this episode was a bit different. I hope you 349 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: guys enjoyed our conversation that hopefully shape you know, shakes 350 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: your room. You can't run from your you can't run 351 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: from the things that are still pride in you from 352 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: the beginning. And when you choose not to run, you 353 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: build real legacy. Look at the life of Malcolm Jamal 354 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: Warner and go check out his podcast. The podcast you 355 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: can find on YouTube, Not All Hood in Ah on YouTube, 356 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: there are some episodes there for you to check out. 357 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you guys could 358 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: be anywhere with anybody talking about all these things, because 359 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: there's always a lot to talk about. 360 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: But you guys are right here with me, my low Riders. 361 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys. I'll see you in the next episode.