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Speaker 3: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life.

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Speaker 3: And Welcome to another edition of the Fantasy Flex Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I am your host, Chris Raybon, joined as always by

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Speaker 3: Sean Kerner, and today we have a special guest returning

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Speaker 3: to the show for a second time I think as

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Speaker 3: many weeks, almost, Samantha Pravity of the Action Network.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk sleepers with her in just a second.

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Speaker 3: Just want to remind you, guys if this is the

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Speaker 3: this good stuff all season long. Samantha, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I heard you were doing some hiking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so so much hiking.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 5: That's become like part of my social media persona now

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Speaker 5: because it's very funny. I'm like not a very outdoor

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Speaker 5: sea person. But I'm leaning into it, trying to trying

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Speaker 5: Park or hiking from Target with like a bunch of bags.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, you gotta do you just uber man, take

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Speaker 2: a subway something.

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Speaker 5: I'm that person where like the bags were breaking on

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Speaker 5: the sidewalk. I'm having like a mental breakdown.

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Speaker 4: Just another day in New York.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't miss it. I don't miss it, Sean,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Man, I haven't been hiking, and so I've been wedding

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Speaker 1: preseason player props.

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Speaker 2: So I'll get over here.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to seeing Trey Lance in person with you

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping Lance will play about a half this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see justin Herbert unfortunately, but excited

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Speaker 3: The rookie quarterbacks had pretty good, you know, opening preseason debuts,

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Speaker 2: Play some more. And Herbert, Yeah, I think he's already

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk some sleepers in this episode, so you know,

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Speaker 3: for everybody listening, these are the guys that have upside,

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Speaker 3: that are not really thought of as fantasy starters, not

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Speaker 2: These guys can really give you an edge.

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Speaker 3: Now, all of them will hit, we already know that,

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Speaker 2: So that's what we'll be talking about.

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Speaker 3: And let's started right off with quarterbacks, Amantha, Who are

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Speaker 3: is or are some quarterbacks that are currently being drafted

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, Trey Lance probably isn't a sleeper anymore,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna give you rushing upside, and that's really what

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Speaker 3: I think efficiency wise, he won't have to throw it

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Speaker 3: Deeper here, little maybe two QB action going on. You know,

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Speaker 3: you looking at way way outside the top twenty Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Way way outside. This is almost like tinfoil hot stuff.

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Speaker 5: But no, I like Jameis Winston at QB thirty one.

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Speaker 5: He's currently the betting favorite to take the Saints for

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Speaker 5: He's got decent weapons in New Orleans, even without Michael

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Speaker 2: Sure, how about you, Deep, I'm going with the other

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Speaker 1: I really think you can't go wrong with either as

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill already showed that he has QB one upside

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Speaker 1: last year and his four starts, he was a QB five.

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Speaker 1: So I love him as you know, a QB three

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Speaker 3: Over under zero point five touchdown passes from Jameis Winston

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Speaker 2: Oh over, I'm taking it over you going over to Samantha. Yes, definitely,

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Speaker 1: You kind of mentioned it with Trey Lance, like even

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Speaker 2: So that's that's why I like him.

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Speaker 1: He has a higher floor for these you know, random

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I really like Gus Edwards, whose consensus ranked does RB forty.

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Speaker 3: You never really saw Aaron Jones go like eighty ninety

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Speaker 3: we think that JD. McKissick twenty twenty JD. McKissick is

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Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I don't know if this is an obvious pick,

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Speaker 5: He caught sixty three or seventy six for four hundred

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Speaker 5: I know it's looking like Carson Wentz is trending towards

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Nai minds gets slept on every year. It looked

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Speaker 1: Well, this guy's not really a sleeper because he's kind

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Speaker 3: So I like taking Boston Scott for free giving the

436
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 3: reports out of Eagles camp.

437
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 2: So that's the PPR guy I'm going for. But he's

438
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 2: also pretty deep.

439
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: But Samantha, who else you got when we talk about

440
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: straight up deep sleepers, Guys that people just aren't really

441
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 3: thinking about outside the top fifty that could return startable

442
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 3: value this year.

443
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a bunch of guys in this range as

444
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 5: it stands right now. I kind of like Javian Hawkins

445
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 5: at RB seventy nine. Mike Davis is the lead guy

446
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 5: in Atlanta, but there's certainly room for Hawkins to step

447
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 5: up into a more fantasy relevant role this year. Davis

448
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 5: finish his RB twelve and half PPR last year when

449
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 5: he stepped up when CMC was out, which is an

450
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 5: absolutely phenomenal finish, but he did struggle down the stretch,

451
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 5: which made some including myself, kind of question his durability

452
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 5: as a full time feature back. I personally think, you know,

453
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 5: we talked about the I talked about the Falcons a

454
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 5: little bit that I think that they will be leaning

455
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 5: much more on the pass just given their team scripts.

456
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 5: But there is a path for Hawkins to pay off

457
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 5: at his paltry ADP, especially if Davis missus time. I

458
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 5: mean in this range, you're kind of thinking about handcuffs

459
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 5: and stuff. And on that note, I like Darren town

460
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 5: Evans at are we sixty two and Chubba Hubbard at

461
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 5: are We sixty three as just kind of high valued

462
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 5: handcuffs for guys that are going, you know, top three.

463
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's talking about Hubbard.

464
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 3: I mean this guy, he's behind McCaffrey here, and we

465
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 3: saw Mike Davis come into a ton of value last

466
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: year for that same reason.

467
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,239
Speaker 2: So I like that called a lot sean who you got?

468
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: So I think a deep sleeper I like, especially after

469
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: this first round of preseason games, as Larry Rountree on

470
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers, he has a way to go to fancy relevance,

471
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: but he has a path I mean, Justin Jackson might

472
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: not even make the team. There's there's reports that you know,

473
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: he's on the roster bubble, and then Joshua Kelly. He

474
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a stranglehold on the number two job.

475
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: So Larry Rowntree could fit that role, that early down role,

476
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: possibly goal line back that Austin Eckler leaves the door

477
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: open for that kind of role, So he has room

478
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: for fans value if he becomes the number two back.

479
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't like.

480
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: Overacting the small sample size, but we got to see

481
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: him play against Rams this weekend. Yes it is against backups,

482
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: but he looked really good. Eight rushes for six three yards.

483
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, he has a way to go,

484
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: but he could become the number two back sooner than later.

485
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: And then the other two I like are both Dolphins backups,

486
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown and salivn Ackmed. You know, Raybaund, I know

487
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: you consider Miles Gaskin a frozen pond he running back.

488
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that this Dolphins coaching staff, they

489
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: prove that they're more than okay benching players when they struggle,

490
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: like we.

491
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: Saw with two of last year.

492
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Speaker 1: So I don't think we can assume Gaskin's going to

493
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Speaker 1: be the workhorse for all seventeen games even if he's healthy.

494
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: And we even saw Malcolm Brown started the preseason game

495
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: and Miles Gaskin played the second quarter with the backups.

496
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: That's not a good sign.

497
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: So I think investing in either one of these backups,

498
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: I think is the way to go because this is

499
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: going to be a volatile situation and this is gonna

500
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: be a good team that we kind of want shares

501
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: of these running backs. So I think both are going

502
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: like RB sixty five range. So I'm taking flyers on

503
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: both these guys because this is gonna be a very

504
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: vultle backfilm. That's where you kind of get fancy gold.

505
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

506
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Speaker 3: I really like the Malcolm Brown call because he's another

507
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 3: guy that you may get for free that may end

508
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 3: up weeding his backfield in snacks because he did start

509
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: the preseason game. And we saw this even with Malcolm

510
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: Brown with Sean McVay, where we thought it was going

511
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: to be that you know, Darryl Henderson cam Akers backfield

512
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: and Malcolm Brown was factoring in a lot more than

513
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 3: anyone had considered even last year. So coaches seem to

514
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: love this guy.

515
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a very solid pas protect.

516
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: They're good, you know, decent in the past game, a

517
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: good in short yardage, not really gonna lose a yard.

518
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: So he could definitely be the kind of dark horse

519
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: number one running back in Miami. You know Miles Gaskin,

520
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: Remember he was a Day three pick who was pushed

521
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: into action because of other guys being injured. So it's

522
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: not necessarily that Brian Flores is down on him or anything.

523
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: But I don't think they ever maybe envision Gaskin to

524
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: have a truly featured role. So I think it is

525
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 3: worth taking a shot on Brown who and I like Akmantu,

526
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: but I do think you know, Brown is going to

527
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: play ahead of him.

528
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Speaker 2: So I like Brown a lot and another guy in

529
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: that same vein it's not sexy at all. But Philip Lindsay.

530
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Speaker 3: I think Philip Lindsay is going to lead the Houston

531
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Speaker 3: Texans in carries this year. If you follow what they're

532
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: doing in camp, you know, all the reports have been

533
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 3: at David Johnson's rushing role is going to be greatly reduced.

534
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: He's going to be used for its pass catching ability.

535
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: So essentially Johnson's going to be the third down back Windsy.

536
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: We know he's always struggled in the past game, so

537
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: it's not totally ideal for PPR. But you're probably getting

538
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: a guy who gets double digit touches and weeds the

539
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: his backfield and touches each and every week. And that's

540
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: going to be Philip Lindsay. So I like him, as

541
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: you know at RB fifty one, I think he he

542
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: does give you enough startuple weeks to make it worth

543
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: it there. And you know, I mean his competition is

544
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: a washed David Johnson and a washed Mark Ingram and

545
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: a washed Rex Burkehead. So there's a chance that Lindsay

546
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: gets even more of a stranglehold of the backfield, especially

547
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: in like the you know, the few games that Houston

548
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: actually ends up winn because I don't think they'll go

549
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: oh to seventeen. So I do like Lindsay, there another

550
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: guy starter you can probably get, not for free, but

551
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: almost for free.

552
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: Outside that top fifty.

553
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: Let's move on to wide receivers, where I think sleepers

554
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: are probably the most important at this position.

555
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: So I spent some time here, Samantha.

556
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: I'll start with you, who's a guy early a little

557
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: earlier and at you know, thirty to fifty range, maybe

558
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: that wide receiver three or four range that you think

559
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: has some sleeper appeal.

560
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it might be cheating since this guy is right outside.

561
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 5: But I'm going to start with Robbie Anderson at wide

562
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 5: receiver thirty one. So Dj Moore, who's currently going as

563
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 5: wide receiver eighteen, it's going to be the wide receiver

564
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 5: one in this Panthers offense. But really don't count Anderson

565
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 5: out completely. And I do like him at the SADP.

566
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 5: He finished with ninety five catches with over a thousand

567
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 5: yards and three touchdowns last year, good enough to finish

568
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 5: his wide receiver seventeen through sixteen weeks. That's he's also

569
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 5: got pretty much equivalent in competition for targets on the

570
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 5: depth chart now that Curtis Samuel is gone, but they

571
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 5: drafted Terrace Marshall. That said, also, Anderson has a good

572
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: rapport and pre existing relationship with Sam Darnold, the Panthers'

573
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 5: new quarterback, from their time together under Adam Gase. Their

574
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 5: chemistry and Anderson's upside I think makes him worth the

575
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 5: risk at the thirty first receiver.

576
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: Off the board.

577
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 5: And then another guy that I like sort of in

578
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 5: that thirty to fifty range is Michael Gallup. He has

579
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: a lot of competition for targets on the Cowboys depth chart,

580
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 5: from Ceedee Lamb and Amari Cooper and even Blake Jarwin

581
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 5: and Ezekiel El Elliott. But yeah, he's like frequently the

582
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: afterthought because he's just not like the sexy name like

583
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 5: Ceeddee Lamb. But he's a guy that I've ended up

584
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 5: with a lot of shares of because he is the

585
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 5: cheapest receiver on a high powered offense with Dak Prescott back.

586
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 5: He's just like one season removed from middle eleven hundred

587
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 5: receiving yard year in twenty nineteen. Obviously, I don't expect

588
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 5: that kind of production barring, you know, like a major

589
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: injury to Cooper Lamb, which you know, I'm not really

590
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 5: entirely out of course, because like Cooper's ankle injury which

591
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 5: kept him on the pup for a lot of training camp,

592
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 5: is something that I think is worth monitoring. But even

593
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 5: like with a fully healthy depth chart, I think that

594
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 5: Gallup is worth the risk at his eighty of wide

595
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: receiver forty seven.

596
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you like Dak Prescott and you like this

597
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Cowboy offense, I think it's only natural to kind of

598
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: trend toward Gallup for a discount, especially if you're loading

599
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: up on Wham and Cooper early, because you kind of

600
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: want that, you know, arbitraged opportunity in your portfolio.

601
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: And remember, Michael Gallup could.

602
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: Very well wead the team in air yards because that's

603
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: his forte.

604
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: He's gonna be. He's the deepest receiver.

605
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: He's going to run the deepest routes with you know,

606
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: Wham and Cooper also on the field, they're more intermediate,

607
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: Gallup can go deep. So you know, if the targets

608
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: kind of get a little mixed up in a given week,

609
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: you know there's Gallup's gonna have some big weeks and

610
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to prioritize him in coverage.

611
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: So I think that's a that's a really good call. Sean,

612
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: how about you guy in the wide receiver three, wide

613
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: receiver four range that people are sleeping on.

614
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm doubling down and Michael Gallup here, He's a

615
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: guy I love getting latent drafts.

616
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Now.

617
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: You know, I've been touting Ceedee Lamb all offseason. I

618
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: think he's you know, probably worth his ADP even at

619
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver ten. But he's really hard to get. I mean,

620
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: the draft has to go a perfect way to land

621
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: him right now. So Gallup's a guy that it's so

622
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: easy to get, you know, in the mid to later

623
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: rounds at wide receiver forty five I think is his

624
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: latest ADP. But he's the cheapest way to invest in

625
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: this Cowboys passing offense. You know, he was sort of

626
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: the forgotten man last year, but you know they've been

627
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: in camp, they've been moving around the formation, lining him

628
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: up in the slot. So I think he's gonna see

629
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: less less of those low percentage routes and he could

630
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: be kind of inheriting sort of the CD Lamb roll

631
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: we saw last year. So I think he's going to

632
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: have a higher floor than people realize. I think he'll

633
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: be a wide receiver three this year, but if you

634
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: know Cooper or Lamber to go down, he has wide

635
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: receiver two upside. So I just love getting him later

636
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: in the draft. You know you're gonna be stashing on

637
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: your bench to start the season, but I think by

638
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: then the year, you'll be plugging him in as a

639
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: wider receiver three. This offense is too good to pass

640
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: him up later in the draft, and then I can't

641
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: get away with not mentioning Mike Williams yet again in

642
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: these wide receiver sleeper sections. I love him at wide

643
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 1: receiver forty five. I think he's due for a breakout

644
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: season this year. So you know, almost every draft, if

645
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I can get him, I take him same thing as

646
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. You're gonna start him off on your bench,

647
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: but by the end of the year, I think he's

648
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: going to be a wide receiver two three kind of value.

649
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's those air yards.

650
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: Both of these guys have potential to get a good

651
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: amount of air yards in a what should be a

652
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: good offense should be high volume pass offenses, So I

653
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Speaker 3: do like those calls. I'm going to go with a

654
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Speaker 3: guy who's been slipping, and that's Corey Davis. He's actually

655
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Speaker 3: at wide receiver fifty one over the last week in

656
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Speaker 3: sanbow Best Ball drafts, So I think that's way too

657
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Speaker 3: low for Davis. I get the uncertainty with the rookie

658
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Speaker 3: quarterback and whatnot, but when I'm looking for guys in

659
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Speaker 3: this range, I'm looking for straight out, straight up upside

660
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: and kind of like what you guys talked about with

661
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Speaker 3: the you know, with Gallup and Williams, Corey Davis has

662
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: a chance to wead his team in air yards and

663
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: he actually has a pretty good chance because Jamison Crowder.

664
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Speaker 3: He'll get targets, but they're gonna come closer to the

665
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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage.

666
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: And then you have Elijah Moore, who you.

667
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: Know is starting to play outside but still another guy

668
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: really white, but he's been banged up, missing some time

669
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Speaker 3: in camp, and he's another guy that played predominantly inside,

670
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Speaker 3: so we don't necessarily expect him to have a lot,

671
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Speaker 3: you know, a deep.

672
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: Air yard profile.

673
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Speaker 3: And his rookie year either at tight end, I mean,

674
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Speaker 3: Chris Herndon is still m I A. They might they

675
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Speaker 3: might even start Tyler Croft, who would probably pass block

676
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: on a lot of past snaps anyway. So there's just

677
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: a lot of opportunity for an alpha guy to emerge there.

678
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: And Corey Davis remember that one year with the Titans

679
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: when he was just the lead guy, and you know,

680
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: his target and shared air yard share was you know,

681
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Speaker 3: in the upper twenties, and I think that's what you

682
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: can kind of see here with the Jets. So I

683
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: just love kind of targeting these guys that you know,

684
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 3: they could get the are yard. That's kind of how

685
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: you skip, you know, kind of jump value here. Because

686
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: all these guys are so close together in that wide

687
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: receiver thirty to like forty forty five range, you know,

688
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: everyone will kind of split hairs and say you should

689
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Speaker 3: take this guy over that guy, this other guy.

690
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is they all.

691
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Speaker 3: Project within one or two points of each other. So

692
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: the guys that are gonna have the most upside of

693
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: the guys that are the guys that can just get

694
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Speaker 3: a lot of yards and targets that want a lot

695
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Speaker 3: of yards at once, and that's airyard guys. So I

696
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: think Corey Davis can be that guy for the Jets.

697
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: So like him at at wide receiver number fifty one,

698
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Speaker 3: We're gonna spend a lot of time on wide receivers,

699
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: and so we're gonna actually go.

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Speaker 2: Year by year here for a second.

701
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Speaker 3: We're gonna start with rookies and we're gonna talk about,

702
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Speaker 3: you know, year two guys because those are the classic

703
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Speaker 3: breakout candidates these days. So Samanth, starting with rookies, who

704
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Speaker 3: do you think people are sleeping on in this twenty

705
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Speaker 3: twenty one draft class.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, outside of the major names.

707
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Speaker 5: I'm going to give you two, so I'm going to

708
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 5: start with Rondell Moore at wide receiver seventy so he's

709
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Speaker 5: at least four deep on the Cardinals depth chart behind Hopkins, Green,

710
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 5: Christian Kirk. But the Cardinals do run the most wide

711
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: four wide receiver sets in the NFL, which I think

712
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 5: could certainly open up some opportunities for the rookie wide out.

713
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: Also worth mentioning that Green's not the most durable. I

714
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Speaker 5: think he's thirty two at this point, and I could

715
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Speaker 5: definitely see more moving around on that depth chart as

716
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Speaker 5: the season progresses. At his current ADP of wide receiver

717
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 5: seventy one and half PPR, he's a guy I'm willing

718
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Speaker 5: to take a late round risk on. And then another

719
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 5: guy that I like in the rookie class is a'manras

720
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Speaker 5: Saint Brown at wide receiver seventy six.

721
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Speaker 4: Wide receiver depth chart for the Lions is.

722
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Speaker 5: In shambles with the departure of Kenny Galladay and Marvin

723
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Speaker 5: Jones this offseason. You know, Brown is one of the

724
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 5: only rookies that I think has a really clear path

725
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Speaker 5: to becoming a team's wide receiver one this season. Yes

726
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 5: being a wide receiver one on a Jared goff led

727
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 5: Lions offense is exactly the sexiest and you know, but

728
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Speaker 5: all he has in terms of competition is Tyrell Williams

729
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 5: and Brashad Perriman from the wide receiver course. So another

730
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Speaker 5: guy that I'm definitely willing to take a risk on

731
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Speaker 5: in deep leagues at wide receiver seventy six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll talk more about Saint Brown, so

733
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm not even going to get into it, but I

734
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Speaker 3: just love that one Sean who you got.

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Speaker 2: As far as rookies, you're expecting to provide some value.

736
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Speaker 1: So I laid out my wide receiver tiers last week.

737
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Speaker 1: The Terrence Marshall is the late round rookie receiver I'm targeting.

738
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Speaker 1: And then he blew up in this first preseason game,

739
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Speaker 1: so I'm worried his ADP might shoot up a bit,

740
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Speaker 1: but I still think he's worth it. You know, he's

741
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: played in offensive coordinator Joe Brady's offense before back at LSU,

742
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: so he's familiar with this scheme. I think he'll fit

743
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: in right away. And he's you know, he's a monster.

744
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: He's six foot three, two hundred five pounds. DJ Moore

745
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: or Robbie Anderson really haven't profile as red zone you know, targets.

746
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Speaker 1: So I think that, you know, I wouldn't be surprised

747
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Speaker 1: if Terrence Marshall leads a team and receiving touchdowns this year.

748
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Speaker 1: He could start off, you know, either splitting time or

749
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Speaker 1: behind David Moore to begin the season as a team's

750
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Speaker 1: wide receiver three. But similar to Justin Jefferson last year,

751
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time before he takes over permanently.

752
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: And this offense, you know, they lost the number three

753
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: receiver last year in Curtis Samuel, so there are targets

754
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Speaker 1: to go around. So I think Terrence Marshall is a

755
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: great you know, late round stash to put in your bench.

756
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be starting in week one, but you know,

757
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: by mid season he could have like a mini Justin

758
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: Jefferson type breakout.

759
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: So I love taking him later in drafts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't think Marshall starts the year is a

761
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: pretty strong role. But I really I want to go

762
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: back to Saint Brown because I really love him on

763
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 3: this Detroit team because I don't even think he needs

764
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: an injury to Williams or Peramann or anything like that.

765
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Speaker 3: Like he starts, he's going to be the starting plot

766
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Speaker 3: receiver on a team that really has no one else

767
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Speaker 3: in the slot. He's a guy that I think could

768
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 3: start to move outside because he's the best route runner

769
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: on the team already. We're, you know, hearing that all

770
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Speaker 3: throughout camp. That's what he was known for in school.

771
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 3: He's been the guy that's been getting open. Goff loves

772
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Speaker 3: to throw underneath. So the same reasons we like TJ.

773
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Speaker 3: Hockinson to have a blow up year, Saint Brown is

774
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Speaker 3: just like the cheap wide receiver version.

775
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Speaker 2: Of that, where Perman Williams.

776
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: These guys could run one hundred percent of the routes,

777
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: you know, and still be targeted like twelve to fifteen

778
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: percent of the time. Because they run a lot of

779
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: deep routs, They're not necessarily creating a lot of separation,

780
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: and they're going to have to create a lot of

781
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: separation for Golf to trust his arm, to trust themselves

782
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: to get that ball to them, especially in a new offense.

783
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't really have chemistry with these guys.

784
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: I think Saint Brown ends the year as the most

785
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: targeted Lions receiver, and I think he can be the

786
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: most targeted Lions receiver in week one. So again another

787
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 3: just a guy with a lot of upside in terms

788
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: of being a you know, a target hog right off

789
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: the bat.

790
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: And then.

791
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: Because the NFL is a passing league now, because teams

792
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 3: are passing almost two thirds at the time these days,

793
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: wide receivers are getting so many more reps in year

794
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: one and by year two, a lot of them are

795
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: taking big jumps. Remember DJ SHARKI even a couple of

796
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: years ago, kind of out of nowhere. So in that

797
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: similar vein Samantha, who are some guys you see kind

798
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: of taking that big weep in year two this year?

799
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So laviska Chanal wide receiver forty two.

800
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: He's a guy that I was definitely pumping up a

801
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 5: lot last year, which obviously didn't necessarily pan out. He

802
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 5: finished as wide receiver fifty three through sixteen weeks, averaging

803
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 5: eight points Fantasy points and half PPR. But you know,

804
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 5: I don't think that that's a really fair representation. I'm

805
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 5: not super convinced it was in the Jaguars' best interest

806
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 5: to win games.

807
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 4: Last year. They had a rotating cast.

808
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 5: Of Gardner, Minshew, Mike Glennon, Jake Luton under center Trevor

809
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 5: Lawrence is going to be.

810
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 4: A palpable upgrade above all of them.

811
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Speaker 5: For Chanal, He's got a lot of competition for targets

812
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: for sure from Djhark, Marvin Jones, and Travis Etn. But

813
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 5: I could definitely see Channel breaking out above Chark and Jones,

814
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 5: especially with some of their durability issues. And then another

815
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: guy that I like as a year two breakout candidate

816
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 5: is Darnell Moody at wide receiver fifty one. He's definitely

817
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 5: a popular sleeper this year and he's probably one of

818
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 5: my favorites. He was subjected to what we can generously

819
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 5: refer to as subpark heb play in Chicago last season,

820
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 5: but what we did see of him was super encouraging.

821
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 4: He was able to stretch the field.

822
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 5: He got sixty one passes for six hundred and thirty

823
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 5: one yards and four touchdowns in a very anemic Bears offense.

824
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Speaker 5: Andy Dalton's going to an upgrade from Foles and Trabiski

825
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: for the passing game, and once they do switch to fields,

826
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Speaker 5: I could definitely see Mooney having a real breakout season.

827
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

828
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Speaker 3: I like Darnold Mooney a lot. I think with a

829
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Speaker 3: different quarterback. There's a lot of upside for him. He

830
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: was a guy that was by the end of the year,

831
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: he was on the fields for ninety percent of the snaps,

832
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: and he was there that team's true number two target

833
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: and over guys like Jimmy Graham and Cole Comet and

834
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: obviously Anthony Miller.

835
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Speaker 2: So I think Mooney continues to build on that.

836
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: And there's just when you look at year two, there

837
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: are just percentage increases. You know, it's generally in the

838
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Speaker 3: fifteen twenty percent range in terms of per game numbers

839
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Speaker 3: from year one to year two on average.

840
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Speaker 2: For wide receivers. So that would be a nice little

841
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Speaker 2: jump for Mooney.

842
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Speaker 3: Here, Sean, how about you, who are you looking at

843
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 3: to break out in year two at wide receiver?

844
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Speaker 1: I think Jerry Judy at ADP wide receiver thirty thirty five.

845
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: Right now, he sticks out like a sore thumb. I mean,

846
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: he's inside my top thirty now. I keep moving him up.

847
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: But you know, he ranked seventh in air yards last

848
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: year as a rookie. He's a skilled route runner, and

849
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: he had three things go against him his rookie season,

850
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: which I think led to the disappointing season. But number one,

851
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: he had thirteen drops. Those were his fault. I'm not,

852
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, saying he wasn't the blame for those, but

853
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: that isn't really a sticky stat year to year. So

854
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: I think he's going to clean up the drops and

855
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: those are going to convert in the catches this year.

856
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: And then number two, he dealt with horrible QB play.

857
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he had a sixty five point five catchbaw

858
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: ball rate last year that ranked thirty seventh out of

859
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: thirty eight wide receivers that saw hundred plus targets. He's

860
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: going to get improved quarterback play from Drew Locke or

861
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: teddy Bridgewater this year. I'm most certain about that. And

862
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: then number three, he just had a lousy touchdown. Look,

863
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: he was zero for seven on in zone targets last year,

864
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: so I think he's due for some pretty massive positive

865
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: touchdown regression. All those three things can combined, I think

866
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna put together a huge year and he's you know,

867
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: no brain or year two leap in my opinion. And

868
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: then the other guy would be Gabe Davis. You know,

869
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: we saw him step up last year when John Brown's out,

870
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: but you know, the Bills run a ton of four

871
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver formations. They ran the second most last year,

872
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: So even if all four receivers are healthy, Gabe Davis

873
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: should see playing time. And then he's one injury away

874
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: from one of these three receivers from putting up you know,

875
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver two, wide receiver three potential. So similar to

876
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, I love investing in the cheapest option in

877
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: a lethal passing attack, and that's Gabe Davis for the Bills.

878
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: So he's another year or two player that I think

879
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: can make a huge leap this year as well.

880
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: I love Gabriel Davis.

881
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: I think that there's a very decent shot that he

882
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: just takes that John Brown row and it's not actually

883
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: Emmanuel Sanders, because if you watched when John Brown was

884
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: hurt last year, Gabriel Davis would run one hundred percent

885
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: of the routes. He would be out there on every

886
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: single snap. He would not come out of the game,

887
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 3: and he would the guy that they put into that role.

888
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: And now you have Sanders here, but he's on the

889
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: wrong side of thirty. You also have Beasley on the

890
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: wrong side of thirty. Those guys are both underneath targets.

891
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: I think Davis because on most players, you're gonna want

892
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: a guy to go down the field and take the

893
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: pressure off Diggs in that you know, intermediate area. So

894
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: I think Davis has a chance to you know, be

895
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: a ninety percent snap player from week one, and Sanders

896
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: may be the guy that's in that you know, fifty

897
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: to sixty to seventy range.

898
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: Kind of keep him fresh for the stretch.

899
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: Run because this is another team that has their sights

900
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: set deep into the postseason.

901
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: So I think Gabriel Davis is a great year to

902
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: lead candidate.

903
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: He's a great best ball pick too, because the one

904
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: thing about him is you may not be able to

905
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: predict the weeks he goes off, but his average up

906
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: to target seventeen. He he's was top three on a

907
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: team in red zone targets, so he's got a lot

908
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: of ways to score fantasy points and he should be

909
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: on the field of tons.

910
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: So I really like him.

911
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: Marcus Callaway for the Saints, you know, coming into year two,

912
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: really impressive last year in limited action. Now he's been

913
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: playing so well that in the second half of the

914
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: Saints game, he was in street quotes already, like he

915
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: was just treated like a veteran, because that's how valuable

916
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: he is a wide receiver. Now with Michael Thomas on

917
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: the show, Trey Kwon Smith has been banged up, But

918
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: I think Callaway has a chance to be a air

919
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: yard hog in the first half of the year, especially,

920
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: but even down the stretch because he's competing with Adam

921
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: Troutman at tight end.

922
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: He's not going to get air yards.

923
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: Alvin Kamaro will get a huge target chair, but pretty

924
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: much no air yards come out of after just running

925
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 3: back targets. Trey Quan Smith, he's always been a guy

926
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 3: that has not really drawn a lot of targets per

927
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 3: route run on the field. So there's a wide opening

928
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: for somebody to emerge and be a real big air

929
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: yard guy, especially over the first half of the year

930
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: when Thomas is you know, still iffy.

931
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: So I like Cowawai a lot wide.

932
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: Receiver seventy I think have value early in the year,

933
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: and you know, you can drop him or whatever if

934
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: you know things don't go right. But I have a

935
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 3: hunch that he might. He might stay on your roster

936
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 3: all year. And then Henry Ruggs, you know a guy

937
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: I was high on last year, I was dead wrong

938
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 3: on him really struggled in year one. But Derek Carr,

939
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: we saw him, We've seen him improve within this Gruden offense.

940
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: Henry Ruggs, you know, no COVID again, another guy I

941
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: think will benefit from an offseason, benefit from a year

942
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: of being able to watch his tape.

943
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: We saw Carr actually start to go down the field

944
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: last year.

945
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 3: If just Nelson Aglar ended up being a beneficiary, he's

946
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 3: out of the picture. Now. There's a lot of hype

947
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: around Brian Edwards, but Brian Edwards is a guy that's

948
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 3: going to be heather to the.

949
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: Line of scrimmage.

950
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: He's going to be a year two player playing his

951
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: first real snaps. I think he's going to struggle to

952
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: draw a high target rate. But I think Henry Ruggs

953
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: is a guy that will move around, a guy that

954
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: has speed, a guy that can use that speed at

955
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: different levels and will be scheming the ball even more so,

956
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 3: I think he really sets up for that huge upset

957
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: type of week year that you know, some people like

958
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: me included, thought may even happen last year. So really

959
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: like Henry Ruggs still going outside the top fifty. Wett

960
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: closed the wide receiver segment with straight up deep sleepers.

961
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 3: Doesn't have to be a rookie, doesn't have to be

962
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: a year or two guy, but just somebody that maybe

963
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: it's a best ball dart throw or another guy and

964
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: a bad team who you're just looking at to vastly

965
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: outplay his value.

966
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: Samantha, Yeah, I really liked Marquez callaway he just mentioned

967
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 5: in the last section. I assumed you went deep sleepers

968
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: like guys outside the top fifty, so Russell Gage is

969
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 5: kind of on the high end of that. I think

970
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 5: he could see an increased role with Julio Jones off

971
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: to Tennessee and in the Atlanta offense, which you know

972
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 5: I suspect will be throwing a lot. I don't expect

973
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 5: consistent week to week production without a major injury to

974
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley, but I think he's an interesting best ball

975
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 5: target and got a target in deeper deeper leagues as

976
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 5: a bench stash. He finished as wide receiver forty one

977
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 5: last year through sixteen weeks, and he's currently being drafted

978
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 5: as wide receiver sixty and half PPR Sean, how.

979
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: About you deep sleepers that wide out?

980
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: So I think a best ball draft, specifically deep sleeper

981
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: guy is Marquez Valdas Scantling. You know, I put together

982
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: best ball scores, which only takes useful scores for best ball.

983
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: That's all you should care about, straight up upside baby,

984
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: And no one's better than Marquez Valdaz Scanting. He finished

985
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: number thirty one at wide receiver last year and my

986
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: best ball scores, and it makes sense. I mean, he's

987
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: the main deep threat in this offense. Yes, Randall Cobub,

988
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: Devin Funchius, Amari Rodgers could eat into the snaps for

989
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: Mark Valgad Scantling this year, but still he's the main

990
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: deep threat. And I think, you know he's gonna be

991
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: a great best ball guy. You think him super cheap,

992
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: but he's way more valuable the best ball. I wouldn't

993
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: start him in a traditional, you know, head to head

994
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: season long league, so he's the best ball only kind

995
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: of guy. And then you guys already mentioned him earlier.

996
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: But I'm on Ross Saint Brown. He's the best Lions

997
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: I think to invest in this year. He's the kind

998
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: of guy that Jared Gouff loves. Jared Goff loves the target.

999
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: You know, Tyro Williams, Forshaw, Perryman kind of profile is

1000
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: more deep threat kind of guys. He doesn't like targeting

1001
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: those kind of wide receivers. So Saint Brown's gonna lip

1002
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: in the slot. He could be his new Cooper Cup.

1003
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: So he's the guy that I'm willing to invest in.

1004
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: The Lions are gonna be terrible, They're gonna have plenty

1005
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: of negative game scripts. So I think Saint Brown is

1006
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: a really sneaky pick in PPR formats.

1007
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: So I think that makes all three of us that

1008
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: name Saint Brown and like a different segment so far.

1009
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: But I yeah, I mean, I think the Cooper Cup

1010
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: comparison is very keen because that's one that I thought

1011
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 3: of as well, because I'm trying to look at like, Okay,

1012
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: what's a realistic expectation for a guy that you know,

1013
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: didn't go on you know, the first two days of

1014
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: the draft and is kind of coming into the league

1015
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: but on a team that really needs him.

1016
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 2: And I said, oh wait, there's kind of a precedent

1017
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: for this.

1018
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: Because he had Jared Goff, you know, coming you know,

1019
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: coming to a new coaching staff, coming off a bad year,

1020
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: pretty much a whole new team, uh, with that Rams

1021
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: team that first McVeigh year, and it was Cooper Cup

1022
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: to come out of nowhere, and uh, I think that

1023
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: was because of the type of routes he running, the

1024
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: type of player he is, And I think Saint Brown

1025
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: can offer some similarities similarities there in terms of a

1026
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: guy that can do a lot of work inside over

1027
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: the middle runs crisp routes can become like you know,

1028
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: quarterbacks best friends.

1029
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: So, uh, you know, he's a guy.

1030
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: I mean, we're all talking him up, so he'll probably bust,

1031
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: Like we probably jinxed.

1032
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: Him, but I really don't. But it's not gonna your

1033
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: season so exactly.

1034
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: And that's what that's what's important about these guys. It's, uh,

1035
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 3: you know, the reason they're sleepers is because there's a

1036
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 3: little risk to them.

1037
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: Just people are sleeping on him.

1038
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: There's not really It's not like you know, like Saquon Barkley,

1039
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: where yeah he could finishes the you know, RB one,

1040
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: or he could play five games.

1041
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: Or something like that. Like there's no risk with a

1042
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: lot of these guys.

1043
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: And where you're drafted them, you should probably have your

1044
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: starting lineup set by the time you're drafting most of

1045
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: these guys. So we just got to take shots on

1046
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: upside here and You're not gonna hit everyone, but you

1047
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: start hitting, you hit a good amount of them, and

1048
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a massive edge. Sometimes all it takes

1049
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 3: is one player more than you know the you know, second, third,

1050
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: fourth best team in your fantasy league, and that's enough.

1051
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 2: So I hope some of these guys are are valuable.

1052
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: The listeners out there will close it up with the

1053
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: tight end position, and Samantha, let's start with guys going

1054
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: outside the top ten. It's a pretty void opposite tradition.

1055
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna say the top ten because ADP

1056
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: kind of fluctuates almost daily, I feel like, and it depends.

1057
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: On what sight you're at.

1058
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 3: So after you get from like Logan, Thomas and Sant

1059
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 3: and Goddard, it just there's a huge just like, this

1060
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: is a toss up. So who do you like outside

1061
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: the top ten as a sleeper at side end?

1062
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1063
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 5: John Smith was a guy that I was pumping up

1064
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 5: for sure, but he's got an ankle injury. Hunter Henry's

1065
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 5: also hurt, so I'm not even gonna go down that path.

1066
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 5: Adam Troutman, who's a guy that I talked up last

1067
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 5: week in our tight Ends podcast. He's tightened seventeen on

1068
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 5: Fantasy pros.

1069
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: I think he is.

1070
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 5: He could definitely find himself inside the tight end one

1071
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 5: tier now that Michael Thomas is gonna miss significant time

1072
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 5: recovering from an ancle injury. Tra Quan Smith is the

1073
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 5: obvious beneficiary in Marcus Callaway from the Thomas injury, but

1074
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 5: so is Troutman. Especially with Jared Jared Cook gone. You know,

1075
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 5: there's gonna be less appeal for Troutman if we see

1076
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 5: Hill starting more games. But you know, with Winston favored

1077
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 5: to be the Week one starter, I think that's good

1078
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 5: news for all the New Orleans pass catchers. So I

1079
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 5: really like Troutman to finish as a tight end one.

1080
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 3: Adam Troutman, I mean, he's like polarizing to me because

1081
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: I actually think he's still a year away. I just

1082
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: don't see the Saints, regardless of Winston or Taysom Hill,

1083
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: operating a high volume pass offense this year. And that's

1084
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: why I'm kind of weaning toward Cowaway as a sleeper

1085
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: because I think he gets the air yards.

1086
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: Prequin could obviously get them too.

1087
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: I just think Calwoi is a better player at this point,

1088
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: but we'll see how that shakes out with Troutman. I

1089
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 3: think I think this time next year he's gonna is

1090
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: when he's really gonna be undervalued. This year, I'm kind

1091
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: of torn on him because I just don't know if

1092
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: the opportunity will be there in how I think we'll

1093
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: think they're.

1094
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: Even if he's a year away, he's gonna play a

1095
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: lot because they don't really have anybody else.

1096
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean that's the thing they got Like

1097
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: Nick Venette, you know, behind him was more of a

1098
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: blocking guy, so he'll be on the field. I just,

1099
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: I just I'm not sure he'll totally break out this year.

1100
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: But Sean, who you got as a deep sleeper, I

1101
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: mean a regular sleeper at side.

1102
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with Irv Smith as my guy outside of

1103
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: the top twelve that I think will be at tight

1104
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: end one. You know, he's due for a year three

1105
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: breakout anyway. But with Kyle Rudolph out of the picture,

1106
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: we already saw last year in the four games about Rudolph,

1107
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: he was a top five tight end. Vikings really operate

1108
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: a two wide receiver offense, so Irv Smith is technically

1109
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: the wide receiver three in this offense. And you know,

1110
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm predicting Adam Feelin to see some you know, touchdown

1111
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: regression this year after scoring a career high fourteen touchdowns.

1112
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: I think IRV Smith will benefit from that. I think

1113
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: he'll Ben he has sninky touch on upside. But also

1114
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: I think he has the target share locked in as

1115
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: essentially the number three receiver in this offense. So I

1116
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: love getting IRV Smith outside of the top twelve this year.

1117
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the guy that I think with tight ends

1118
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: you see it a little more still in year three.

1119
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 3: And that's another reason I say, you know, a guy

1120
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: like Troutman Coole Comet got popular. Sweepers are still I

1121
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: think a year away, but I think this is the

1122
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: year where Erv Smith does make a pretty big jump

1123
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: and you hit the nail on the head.

1124
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: He is that third receiver for them.

1125
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 3: They will not really play a true number three receiver

1126
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: even have to snap some games. So that really does

1127
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 3: Ben fitz Smith, who is coming along as a route runner,

1128
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: improving year over year, so I like him a lot.

1129
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with some interesting I'm going to

1130
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: go with another interesting name because I think it's just

1131
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 3: at this point in the tight end when I'm looking

1132
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: at tight ends, I'm looking for guys that I can

1133
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 3: see get high volume and and there's really a couple

1134
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 3: of guys that are everyone's really really down on based

1135
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: on what happened last year. That because tight end is

1136
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: so ugly and it's just such a toss up, I'm

1137
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: starting to target these guys a little more.

1138
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 2: Than I thought I would.

1139
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: And I'll save one for the deep sleepers, but for

1140
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 3: this segment, I'll go with Evan Ingram. He's going around

1141
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: tight ends at seventeen. And remember this is a guy

1142
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: that was being drafted as a top five or six

1143
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: tight end over the years, even with Saquon Barkley there

1144
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 3: on the team, and now you know, he has a

1145
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: bad year, a ton of drops, you know, obviously his

1146
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: fault just like j Judy, but still a guy who

1147
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: didn't run lower than seventy seven percent of the routes

1148
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 3: for you know, at tight end last year for this team.

1149
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Rudolph, we don't know when he's coming back. He

1150
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: hasn't really been able to practice at all.

1151
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: He's been on the shelf.

1152
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: They just lost Revine toy Lolo, so they might not

1153
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: be able to go with you know, a lot of

1154
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: as money subs for Ingram as they want to.

1155
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 2: I think he'll still run a ton of routes.

1156
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 3: And I actually think, you know, the return of Barkley

1157
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 3: and the signing of Galladay it helps a guy like

1158
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: Evan Ingram because now he's not the focus of the

1159
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: defense as much. It's similar to kind of Sterling Shepherd.

1160
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 3: I think when he's on the field, like those guys

1161
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 3: are are a lot better when they can operate, is

1162
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: not the true focus of the defense. So we've seen

1163
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 3: Evan Ingram do it before. We're taking a lot. There's

1164
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 3: a lot of guys that they're just kind of a

1165
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: toss up in this range. So I'm going with the

1166
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 3: upside of Ingram, who I think can bounce back and

1167
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: have a decent season, and he just runs a ton

1168
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: of routes. So that's hard to replace it tight end,

1169
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 3: because you see a lot of regression to the mean

1170
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: your over year these you know, it's like in terms

1171
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: of their targets per round, in terms of their touchdown

1172
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: you know, catches per per reception. So Evan Ingram, when

1173
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 3: all said and done, he projects out, it's still a

1174
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: borderline top twelve option for me. So I'm going with

1175
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: Ingram as my immediate sleeper at tight end. But let's

1176
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 3: finish it up with the deep deep sleepers. Samantha, who's

1177
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 3: the tight end you like outside the top twenty.

1178
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 5: It's going to be Dawson Knox, So Sean, to your point,

1179
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 5: I think this is when you spoke about Gabriel Davis.

1180
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 5: It's a cheap way to invest in a high powered offense.

1181
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 5: And you know, to even your point, Chris, if you

1182
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 5: believe in the year three breakout, it could definitely happen

1183
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 5: for Knox, you know, barring a major trade. I know

1184
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 5: there was talk earlier this offseason of zach Ertz going there,

1185
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 5: but he is, you know, a number one tight end

1186
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 5: in this Buffalo offense. He's going to compete sort of.

1187
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 4: With Jacob Hollister on the duft, but I certainly.

1188
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 5: Like him to finish higher than his ADP, which is

1189
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 5: tight end thirty six on Fantasy.

1190
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: Pros Sean, how about you, who do you like as

1191
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 3: a deep sleeper or deep sleepers at tight end?

1192
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: I like Hayden Hurst at tight end twenty seven. Now,

1193
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: obviously the Falcons drafting Kyle Pits was a massive, massive

1194
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: blow to his value. However, he's still a first round talent.

1195
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years old, he knows the offense. I

1196
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: mean with Hulo Jones out of the picture and Arthur

1197
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: Smith taking over, we could see more two tight end formations,

1198
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: So Hurst might see playing time alongside Cole Pits. They

1199
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: might line Kyle Pits up in the slot. Either way,

1200
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Hayden Hurst will still get some

1201
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: playing time, so he could provide you know, some value

1202
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: week two week and you know, deeper tight end premium

1203
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: type formats. And if for whatever reason, if Kyle Pitts

1204
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: struggles which I don't see happening, or miss his time,

1205
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: which could happen, Hayden Hurst has already shown that he's

1206
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: a tight end one slash tight end to kind of players,

1207
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: So I think that you know, just getting him this

1208
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: cheap kind of reminds me of getting Dallas Goddard for

1209
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: the past couple of seasons as sort of like an

1210
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: upside bench stash. But either way, you know, Hayden Hurst

1211
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: at tight end twenty seven, I think he's way undervalued

1212
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: there for a bunch of different reasons, but love getting

1213
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: him there.

1214
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's interesting because I think people were just immediately

1215
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: writing writing him off because of Kyle Pitts. But remember

1216
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts can play a lot of receivers and Hayden

1217
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: Hurst is probably one of the Like the Falcons optimal

1218
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: lineup probably contains Hayden Hurst on the field a bunch

1219
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: of snaps just because they are a little thin at

1220
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: that you know, wast receiver spot after Russell Gage, so

1221
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: at that third receiver spot. So I think that's an

1222
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: interesting one, especially for a team that, like Samantha you said,

1223
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: this might be a team that has a lot of

1224
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: passing game scripts this year.

1225
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: So I think Hurst is interesting. I'm going with a

1226
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: guy again. This guy has done it before, and we're

1227
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: just way down on him after the last season. There's

1228
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: a lot of uncertainty around him.

1229
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: But I just think like at this point you have

1230
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 3: to buy him because if he's traded, he's probably going

1231
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: to be traded to a situation where he's still the

1232
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: starting tight end. If he remains on the Eagles, I

1233
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 3: think there's still a very good chance that he is

1234
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 3: on the field, even more than Dallas Goddard. So last

1235
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: year he did struggle, but Carson Wentz also struggled a ton.

1236
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: Tight Ends don't necessarily fall off a cliff in terms

1237
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 3: of aging the way like some big body wide receivers

1238
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 3: do as they get up there in age. So I

1239
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: think we're just kind of looking at Zach Ertz like, oh,

1240
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: he's washed now. But I think Carson Wentz had a

1241
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: lot to do with it. There's a new coaching regime.

1242
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: Ertz's reporting we looked like the old zach Ertzen camp,

1243
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 3: And I just think there's a lot of upside getting

1244
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,959
Speaker 3: a guy that just a year ago we were taking

1245
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: as a consensus top five tight end at tight end

1246
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: twenty five. Again, this is a position that's tough to predict,

1247
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: it's tough to find value. Everyone's kind projects close together.

1248
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: So I'm going after I'm buying low on a guy

1249
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: like this who we've seen do it year in, year out,

1250
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: and even last year just you know, the targets were

1251
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: still deepen just you know, pat Ate was abysmal, the

1252
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: drops you know, had some drops, had some Wentz issues,

1253
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: some uncatchable balls. So just a lot went wrong last

1254
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 3: year for that whole US offense. But like Zach er,

1255
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: it's a tight end number twenty five, all right, that

1256
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,080
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1257
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,880
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