1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Stramp on the boots and scrape up the knuckles on ahead. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: He got jacked. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: and Gilbert. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: Terry's gonna score touchdown. Slim to the ground by Buddha Baker. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 3: Like a torpedo, he keeps flying into the backfield. 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: The Rage. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: It's brought to you by santan Ford and Gilbert. Right 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: on the Price, right on the corner of the sand 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: Tan two to two freeway. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: In Valves Water Crab by Trey McBride. 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: That was spectacular and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast Visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: dot Com, Slash Podcast. 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: All Right, Seas Rising Uard. 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: Timperitu Rising Vision, Flurry Rage, Take it Ober. 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 5: Here's Paul Calvic. 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm ready. 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 5: And Ron Wolfley. 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better than that. 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 6: The Fjord we know it is Super Bowl weak based 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 6: on the super yachts. Who you are can be defined 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 6: wolf by how you got there and at last count, 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 6: if you're scoring at home. Based on reports, the number 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 6: is three. There are three super yachts docked in New Orleans. 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 6: Arthur Blank, Jerry Jones and Shad Khan's new four hundred 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 6: foot super yacht that'll be hosting a super party this weekend. 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 6: Are invited to the party by the Jags owner on 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 6: his new super yacht, Paully. 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: Can I just tell you right now, I don't really 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: care about the super yachts for me, I just want 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: the super gumbo. Just tell me what the super gumbo is. 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, because I mean on this super yacht. He 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 6: has three pools, he has a spy, he's a sauna 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 6: as a gym, a yoga studio, basketball and pickleball courts, 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 6: a helipad. It sleeps twelve and has a crew of 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 6: thirty seven. So there you go. I just thought i'd 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 6: mentioned that it is the Big Red Rage, presented by 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 6: santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul calvc 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 6: Ron wolf Ley, and man, we're almost there. We're almost 41 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 6: a super Bowl Sunday. Kendrick Lamar his pregame press conference 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 6: earlier today. Don't know if you caught that wolf. The 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 6: Chiefs have now struck a deal with pat Riley to 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 6: use his trademark three pete, so that gives the Eagles 45 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 6: a little more juice. Oh really, you already have your 46 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 6: trademark in place for three pet Okay, we'll see about that. 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 6: And then the NFL Honors is tonight. Of course your 48 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 6: host is going to be Snoop. Of course he's going 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 6: to host NFL Non Honors tonight and they're gonna hand 50 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 6: out the hardware. 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, the NFL Honors, I'd like to 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: see that going to the NFL Pro Bowl and having 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: the biggest, baddest awards bank what you can possibly have 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: one week after the Super Bowl. That's what I'd love 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: to see the NFL do at some point in time, Paulie. 56 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: But it's not a surprise you went out with the 57 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: super yachts and started with the super yachts because you 58 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: are a car guy after all. 59 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 6: Well, okay, we had the Pro Bowl. That was like 60 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 6: so last Sunday they had the Pro Bowl flag football game. 61 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 6: Seventy six sixty three was the final score, by the way, 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 6: and they still played more defense than the Phoenix Suns 63 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 6: as of late. Budda Baker had a pick six in 64 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 6: that game. Trey McBride found the end zone. You know 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 6: what's a flag football Pro Bowl game? When he jumps 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 6: into the foam pit. So that was great stuff. There. 67 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 6: We're gonna get to some Cardinals news in a moment. 68 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 6: But on Radio Row earlier today, Wolf, Let's get right 69 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 6: to it, Trey McBride was with the Check the Mic 70 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 6: podcast Sam Monson. They asked him about playing tight end 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 6: in the Drew Petsen scheme. 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 7: You know Drew pets and our offensive coordinator has such 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 7: a fun offense for me for tight ends. He loves 74 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 7: the tight end position. There's twelve personnel, thirteen personnel, so 75 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 7: we're always out on the field and I think that's 76 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 7: so much fun. And the offense is really revolved around 77 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 7: a tight end a little bit, so you need a 78 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 7: good tight end for that offense to be successful. And 79 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 7: I'm glad that I was able to fill that role. 80 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 7: And you know that'd be a huge part of our offense. 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: All right. 82 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 6: So there's Trey McBride. Of course, he made headlines this 83 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 6: year for hurdling. Former teammate of Year's Wolf who really 84 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 6: brought hurtling into vogue. Larry Centers, I Buried the lead, 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 6: is our guest tonight on a very special edition of 86 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 6: The Big Red Rage. So Elsie is coming up in 87 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 6: a matter of moments. We're going to talk about the 88 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 6: Super Bowl, we're gonna talk about the Cardinals run game, 89 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 6: Trey McBride and more. But first there's Trey talking about 90 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 6: the current Cardinals scheme and I'm guessing that's music to 91 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 6: your ears right there. 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: No, it really is Paully. Once again. It's funny though 93 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: that he was talking about twelve personnel, one back, two 94 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: tight ends, thirteen personnel one back, three tight ends, of course, 95 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: and how much Drew Petsing loves to use those personnel 96 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: groups and he does. But what really is the difference 97 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: is Trey McBride is a stud tight end, a guy 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: that you can go eleven personnel, bully, one back, one 99 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: tight end, three wide receivers. You can do it in 100 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: first and ten second and one to six classic rundown situation. 101 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: You can do it. And we've talked about this often, 102 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: but that, to me is the best part about having 103 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: a Trey McBride in a Drew Pettsing offense. It's because 104 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: you can go eleven personnel and you can stay balanced 105 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: in rundown situations. 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 6: And it's not just any tight end that can check 107 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 6: all those boxes, right. The ability to stay on the 108 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 6: field all three downs, no matter the down, and distant, 109 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 6: don't matter the personnel group. In fact, Trey McBride was 110 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 6: asked about the skill set required of a modern day 111 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 6: tight end. 112 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 7: Well, you know, there's different types of tight end, so 113 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 7: it's hard to you know, put them all in one box. 114 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 7: But you know, you have to be able to do 115 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 7: both pass game and run game in my opinion. You know, 116 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 7: I think if you're helping the run game, you help 117 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 7: with the blocks a little bit, it's gonna open you 118 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 7: up and lead to that open past game as well. 119 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 7: So you've got to be able to do both and 120 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 7: be very successful in both. 121 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 6: How much upside do you think Trey McBride still has. 122 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 6: I mean, this was his first full season as a 123 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 6: full time starter, year number three. I mean, how much 124 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 6: do you think he's still ascending as a player. 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: No doubt he still is developing and getting better right now. Listen. 126 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: I believe that every player evolves and develops over time. 127 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And when I say time, 128 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm typically talking about three to five years after that 129 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: you're pretty much you are what you are at that 130 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: point in time. I think he can still get better. 131 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: Paully and watching him. I was so jacked up to 132 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: actually see him do the flip out of the Pro Bowl, 133 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: right in the flag game, doing the flip and into 134 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: the big pit of you know, soft whatever they had. 135 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: Their phone pet was the phone pit, Paully. They're all 136 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: were jumping into it. And you know what I noticed. 137 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: I noticed he's built a relationship with George Kittle. Yes, 138 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: you can see it, do you remember, Paually. I mean, 139 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: these guys they get along really really well. They acknowledge 140 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: each other. Of course, all the time he goes and 141 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: he's gone to the tight end school of course with 142 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: George Kittle, Travis Kelsey. But I love the fact he's 143 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: building that relationship with George Kittle because George kit to me, 144 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: is still right now if you're going to have a 145 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: true stud tight end, George Kittle, I think is the 146 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: best in the league right now. And Trey McBride is 147 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: right there with him. And I love that because he's 148 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: building that relationship with a guy that I think he 149 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: wants to emulate as well. 150 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 6: And of course, Kansas City is in their fifth Super 151 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 6: Bowl in six years, and right there, every step of 152 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 6: the way with Patrick Mahomes has been Travis Kelsey, who 153 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 6: has already broken some of Jerry Rice's postseason receiving records 154 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 6: all time. So yes, there is definitely a role, a 155 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 6: big role in today's NFL for a playmaking tight end. 156 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 6: There's no doubt about that. We mentioned news on the 157 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 6: Cardinals coaching staff reportedly, here's what we know. Dallas announced 158 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 6: to Clayton Adams has taken their offensive coordinator position. Of course, 159 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 6: he was formerly the Cardinals offensive line coach. Reports out 160 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 6: saying that Justin Fry is coming over from Ohio State. 161 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 6: Wolf spent the last three seasons as the Ohio State 162 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 6: offensive line coach. And then we get to defense line 163 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 6: and Derek LeBlanc. Reports say the Cardinals have parted ways 164 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 6: with their dline coach in the last couple of years, 165 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 6: and they're moving on to a young man twenty seven 166 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 6: years of age, former teammate of Nick Rowlis at the 167 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 6: University of Minnesota, where he started thirty six games as 168 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 6: a defensive lineman. I'm sort of buying time because I'm 169 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 6: looking at his fourteen letter last name and I'm thinking, 170 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 6: you know what, maybe we'll have him pronounce his name. 171 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: Winston de Lattebadet, the third defensive end bottom of Maryland. 172 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 6: That's back from his playing days. 173 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: Well, that is so good, right there? Can I hear 174 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: that one more time? Paul? It can we played that 175 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: one more time? 176 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 5: Here? 177 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 6: Winston de Latte bade the third. Thank you, jim O 178 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 6: Mahundra right there. So well, if you have a whole 179 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 6: off season to work on that one, Okay. 180 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a little surprised to actually see any 181 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: change at the coaching position right now, but this is 182 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: the way the NFL has gone, and we'll continue to 183 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: go as well. Opportunities are coming and going every year 184 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: right now, and there's a lot more movement not only 185 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: with the NFL of course, but also in college Pauly 186 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: as well, the NIL and free agency and the portal 187 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: that basically exists at the college level right now. With 188 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: that portal, it's just amazing how much movement. And it's 189 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: not just with players, Paul, yep, it's also with coaches 190 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: because of all the movement with the players. So it's 191 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: a situation where it's a different NFL than what it 192 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: used to be back fifteen, twenty, even five years ago. 193 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 6: So Sam Seekis goes from inside linebackers coach at the 194 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 6: Cardinals DC Virginia Tech. Reportedly Christian Garcia is coming over 195 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 6: from Dallas, and then past game specialist Spencer Whipple has 196 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 6: been hired to be the Jacksonville quarterback coach. Reportedly, Hey, 197 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 6: you want to know about Super Bowl Sunday, Let's talk 198 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 6: to someone who's been there and won that. Larry Centers 199 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 6: is next on the Big Red Rage presented by santan 200 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 6: Ford in Gilbert. 201 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 8: Plumber back to throw, looks up the middle. Now he dances, 202 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 8: Now he runs. Plumber's on the tent. Plumber throws in 203 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 8: the end zone to a wide open Larry Centers. He's 204 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 8: got it doors and Jake Plumber just sucked everybody to him. 205 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 8: Larry Sitter gets standing on the top of the redskins, 206 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 8: helmet out in the corner of the. 207 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: End zone, nobody. 208 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 9: Around him, and Jake Plumber puts. 209 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 7: It right on the numbers to number thirty seven. 210 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 6: Larry Sitting and that number that jersey. We'll get a 211 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 6: mentioned a little bit later by a current cardinal foreshadowing. 212 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 6: Here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 213 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 6: and Gilbert, we are santan Ford, Paul calvic, Ron Wolfley, 214 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 6: and Larry Centers. But wolf first I have a question 215 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 6: for you. I'm trying to figure something out here, Wolf, Okay, 216 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 6: I get it, Polly Pigskin over here. I'm trying, you know. 217 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 6: But you had twenty six career receptions. That's that's right, Okay, 218 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 6: you were listed. You were listen did as a fullback. 219 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 6: Larry Centers was mainly listed as a full back. He 220 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 6: had twenty eight receiving touchdowns. Okay. He has the most 221 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 6: catches by a running back in NFL history, more than 222 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 6: Marshall Falk who was number two. How is it that 223 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 6: you two guys were listed as playing the same position. 224 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 6: I just I aming a hard time deciphering that. 225 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: I have no idea party. I'm still trying to figure 226 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: it out myself. All right. 227 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 6: Larry Centers is our guest and always a pleasure. Larry, 228 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 6: how are you doing here? It's Super Bowl week? You 229 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 6: have played in a Super Bowl, You have a Super 230 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 6: Bowl ring? Do you sort of does a you know? 231 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 6: Does I don't know? Does this sort of get your 232 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 6: football senses alive and going again? 233 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 9: This time of year it's always exciting for everybody who's 234 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 9: played the game. Wolf can attest to theirs that it's 235 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 9: always great with this time of year when with down 236 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 9: the two teams that have fought and gone through the 237 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 9: injuries and the ups and downs of the season and 238 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 9: find themselves in a position to win a championship, it 239 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 9: always kind of pieks everyone's interesting up. I'm really excited, Paul, 240 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 9: and I'm just anxious to see who's gonna pull this 241 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 9: thing out. 242 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: So right now, Elsie, what do you miss most about 243 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: the game of football? Right now? 244 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 9: You know, even though it's been quite a while since 245 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 9: I played wolf, it's it's the same things almost every 246 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 9: player will tell you. And it's the camaraderie. It's the 247 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 9: going to work with your buddies every day, you know, 248 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 9: fighting for a common goal, for a common plan. And 249 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 9: and there's nothing that I've found since I've retired, even 250 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 9: now to this day, nothing that compares to to that camaraderie. 251 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 9: And uh just at brotherhood, man, That's that's the thing 252 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 9: that I missed the most. 253 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what I mean, Guys like Larry Centers 254 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 6: and and Roy jetstream Green, right, two guys that we 255 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 6: have on the big red rage, two guys who could 256 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 6: really hold their own in the locker room, wouldn't you say? 257 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 6: I mean, oh, man, could they dish it out right. 258 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, Baul. Even when LC was 259 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: a rookie, he came in and he showed a lot 260 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: of promise, a lot of promise immediately. 261 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, on the field, in the locker room, keeping guys, 262 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 6: let's just say accountable, always always a good time around 263 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 6: their lockers, no doubt about it. All right, Larry, here's 264 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 6: my question. I look at this matchup and these two teams. 265 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 6: I just want to start in the Super Bowl real 266 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 6: quick before we get to the Cardinals. And you have 267 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley with a two thousand yard rushing season. He 268 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 6: gets thirty yards in this Super Bowl. He'll have the 269 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 6: most rushing yards through a postseason any running back ever, 270 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 6: passing Terrell Davis, which was the last Super Bowl champion 271 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 6: to have a rushing champion. Can you still run the 272 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 6: ball and win a Lombardi Trophy here in twenty twenty five. 273 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 9: I definitely think so. And I think the reason for 274 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 9: that is the game is so cyclical. The game is 275 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 9: a big circle cycle. And I think that, you know, 276 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 9: as teams have gone more into the passing offensive scheme 277 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 9: of things, I think they neglect to even you know, 278 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 9: learn how to stop to run. So I think that 279 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 9: the running game is always going to have his place 280 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 9: in the game because it provides each their team with 281 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 9: the ability to control the clock. And when you control 282 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 9: the clock, you can keep the other team's offense on 283 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 9: the bench, which is which is a weapon in itself. 284 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 9: So I definitely believe, you know, I'm fully for sake, Quod. 285 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 9: I was hoping that they were able to get in 286 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 9: the record, but unfortunately, you know, they made the right 287 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 9: call to this point. But he's had a special season 288 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 9: so far, and I'm looking forward to see what he's 289 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 9: going to do in the Super Bowl. 290 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you that right there, Elsie, 291 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: just the Eagles ability to run the ball and the 292 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs as well. In the Kansas City Chiefs, 293 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: they got a pretty good front seven. This is a 294 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: this is a front seven that was number eight number 295 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: seven respectively in terms of rushing yards per game allowed 296 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: and rushing yards per play a lot. Do you think 297 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: that is the matchup of Super Bowl fifty nine, the 298 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: Eagles ability to run the ball against the Kansas City 299 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: Chiefs front seven. 300 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 9: You know, you bring up a good point, but I 301 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 9: think one thing that stands out Wolf is that you know, 302 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 9: even if sa Quon doesn't go out and rush for 303 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty yards or two hundred yards, he's 304 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 9: still going to affect that chief the defensive play calling. 305 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 9: They're gonna have to load up the box and they're 306 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 9: gonna have to alter the way they normally play defense 307 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 9: just to be sure that they're able to stop to 308 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 9: runn So, you know, if I was the Chiefs that 309 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 9: come in to this game with the defensive game plan 310 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 9: to make Jalen Hurts beat you with his arm, and 311 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 9: that would you know, kind of equalize even the playing field. 312 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 9: But I think the effect that sa Quon will have 313 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 9: the most is that he will cause the Chiefs to 314 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 9: alter the way that they play their defensive schemes front. 315 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 9: I expect to see a lot of blitzers in this 316 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 9: game from Kansas City one blitzes as well as blitzes 317 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 9: on obvious passing downs. 318 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 6: Hey, Larry Center's our guest here on the Big Red 319 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 6: Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert just third on 320 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 6: the Cardinals all time receptions list, behind only Larry Fitzgerald 321 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 6: and Ang Kwon Bolden, and as someone with a Super 322 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 6: Bowl ring with New England. There, Elsie, just tell us 323 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 6: about playing on Super Sunday, you know, tell us about 324 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: you know halftime, right, I mean thirty to forty minutes. 325 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: By the way, the Super Bowl you played in was 326 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 6: the infamous wardrobe malfunction game. By the way, you know, 327 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 6: what do you do when you have a thirty or 328 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 6: forty minute halftime? How did you sort of manage your 329 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 6: emotions when it's one of the biggest events on the planet. 330 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 9: That is one of the toughest things about it that 331 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 9: most people never really pay attention to is that this 332 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 9: is basically two different games because the halftime is such 333 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 9: a long stretch between the two. So there's a whole 334 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 9: lot more that are being able to be made because 335 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 9: of the length of the halftime show and all this 336 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 9: other kind of hooplah going on. But you have a 337 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 9: really good chance of kind of what to expect. I 338 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 9: think all the most of the skeletons are out of 339 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 9: the closet as far as what you can expect from 340 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 9: a team. But I think it's a tale of two 341 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 9: game plans most of the time. You know there will 342 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 9: be some major adjustments made at halftime, and you know, 343 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 9: I think in that regard in this particular game, I 344 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 9: think the favor goes in uh for Andy Reid on 345 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 9: that I think he's the best one game coach. And 346 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 9: that's the football league right now. 347 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: So right now, Elsie, when you look at Patrick Mahomes 348 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: and the fact that he just went to his seventh 349 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: consecutive AFC Championship game, and the fact that he's got 350 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: the possibility of winning his fourth Super Bowl, maybe the 351 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: third Super Bowl in a row, which of course would 352 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: be a record in the National Football League. Nobody has 353 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: ever won three Super Bowls in a row. If Patrick 354 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: Mahomes wins this game, wins Super Bowl fifty nine, is 355 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: he the greatest quarterback ever to play? 356 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 9: Well, it's hard for me to speak down or speak 357 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 9: against my my my quarterback Tom Brady, but you have 358 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 9: to make the argument. You know, three in a row, 359 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 9: it's never been done before, as everybody knows. You know, 360 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 9: they put together quite a dynasty up there. I think 361 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 9: three in a row you have to put him in 362 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 9: the greatest conversation. 363 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: You know. 364 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 9: The consistency is speaks volumes and any time you can 365 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 9: do it at the highest level in the league, in 366 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 9: the NASA Football League with the greatest players in the world. 367 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 9: I mean, you got to tip your hat to the 368 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 9: guy and you know, give him his flowers. 369 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 6: And of course Tom Brady's going to be on the 370 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 6: call on Fox on Sunday. All right, Larry Centers is 371 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 6: our guest Bigger of Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. 372 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 6: Let's fast forward to the twenty twenty four twenty five Cardinals. 373 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 6: There was Garrett Williams, second year cornerback. I don't know 374 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 6: if you saw this, Larry, but it was the Cardinals 375 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 6: Monday Night game against the Chargers and he showed up 376 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 6: wearing an else throwback jersey and on an earlier version 377 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 6: edition of The Big Red Rage, we asked Garrett Williams 378 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 6: himself to tell us what was behind that. Garrett Williams, 379 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 6: what what did you do recently to bring Larry Centers 380 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 6: back into the news. 381 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I wore jersey to our Monday night. 382 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: Game right there. 383 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 5: So how did that come about? 384 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: It was really unplanning. 385 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 10: One of my friends had been telling me that I 386 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 10: need to go to this place called Tembi Throwbacks. So 387 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 10: I'm in there, I'm just you know, I'm looking around, 388 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 10: and then the store owner comes up to me. He's 389 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 10: telling me all the different things, and he's like, yo, 390 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 10: I got this jersey. You get this, bro, Like nobody 391 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 10: has it, you. 392 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. 393 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 10: So then he kind of starts explaining it to me, 394 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 10: like the Larry Sener jersey, who he is, things like that, 395 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 10: and he showed us to all like yeah, you need it, 396 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 10: need it. And so then after that it was just 397 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 10: a matter of like, all right, when do I want 398 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 10: to wear it? And I feel like the Monday night 399 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 10: game was like the perfect time to rocket, you know 400 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 10: what I'm saying, because I feel like that jersey, that's 401 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 10: not something you can just wear in the game, you 402 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 10: know what I say, You got to wear it on 403 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 10: a special occasion. 404 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 5: By the way, you guys share the same birthday, Junie, I. 405 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 10: Was just about to say that my dad told me 406 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 10: that after the game. I was that's great. I did 407 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 10: not know that. 408 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 5: That's a mind blow right there. 409 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: That's crazy about the right jersey. 410 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, he bought the right jersey. How cool is it 411 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 6: here to hear that, Larry Man? 412 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 9: That is beyond cool. And by the way, Garrett Williams 413 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 9: is my new favorite player in the league right now. Yeah, man, 414 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 9: you know and I tell you what really stands out 415 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 9: to me is, you know, the sobering reality that you know, 416 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 9: this Gary Willis was probably not even born back when 417 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 9: I was, you know, when I first came into the league. 418 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 9: So you know, it kind of put things into perspective. 419 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 9: And it's great to be to be recognized this long 420 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 9: since I played. And like I said, I'm a number 421 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 9: one fan of Garrett Williams, and I'm wishing him nothing 422 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 9: but the best and the greatest success. 423 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 6: Real quick, there were plenty of LC jerseys and then 424 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 6: nineteen ninety eight playoff season. What do you remember most, 425 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 6: especially about the stretch run where you guys, you know, 426 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 6: made the playoffs and then the big win. 427 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 9: And big d Man, anybody that's played the game and 428 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 9: going to the playoffs will tell you that there's something 429 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 9: special that happens in every locker room whenever you get 430 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 9: to the playoffs and you start galvanizing. You know, the 431 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 9: regular season is one thing, you know, you have to 432 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 9: deal with the injuries and the ups and downs and 433 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 9: all the stuff trying to define who you are as 434 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 9: a team. But once you get to the playoffs, man, 435 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 9: you need all hands on deck and it's just the Brothershood. 436 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 9: It just takes it to a whole other level. And 437 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 9: that's what I remember most. And one thing that was 438 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 9: super special to me was how the fans in the valley, 439 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 9: you really just rallied around our team. We're gone through 440 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 9: some rough times and sun Devil and back then during 441 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 9: the nineties, but to have it all come together and 442 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 9: they had Jake to Snake at the Helm and everybody 443 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 9: doing their job, the Niss, everybody just doing you know, 444 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 9: just making it happen. And I just remember just coming 445 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 9: together and then going to Dallas and wear a playoff game. Man, 446 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 9: that was a that was a very special time during 447 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 9: my career. 448 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. I'll see no doubt 449 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: about that. That was fantastic. Okay, So looking at the 450 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: current iteration of the Arizona Cardinals today, James Connor, I 451 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: just absolutely love watching James Connor run the football. What 452 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: are your thoughts when you watch James Connor and the 453 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals run the ball? 454 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 9: Wolf Man, what a stud man? Connor is just a 455 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 9: he's a he's a stud man. He's a He's a 456 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 9: guy that really when he's got the ball in his hands, 457 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 9: you know you can't you know anything can happen. You know, 458 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 9: you know something probably is going to happen. He's a 459 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 9: bowling ball. He's a bull back there with the ball 460 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 9: in his hands, and like I said, I love watching 461 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 9: him run. I never expected him to be this good 462 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 9: coming from from Pittsburgh, but he's been such a great 463 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 9: addition to this team. Man, And he's really he's an 464 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 9: attitude guy. He kind of brings the sets the attitude 465 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 9: and the sets the tone for for this tough, hard 466 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 9: nosed football team. And I've been impressed with what he's 467 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 9: been able to do. 468 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 6: You know that's it's really in a stude observation because 469 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 6: we've been saying that here this past year. He's more 470 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 6: than a player, he's a mindset. How much can players 471 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 6: feed off a single guy who might be that guy 472 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 6: a team captain? I mean, how much can you really 473 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 6: set a tone for a locker room? Is that a 474 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 6: real thing? 475 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 9: That is absolutely a real thing, And I think it 476 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 9: even it's even more of a real team when you 477 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 9: have that tone center at the running back position. You know, 478 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 9: that's how you impose your will on the opposing team. 479 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 9: You've run the ball down their throats and there's nothing 480 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 9: they can do to stop it. You know. That makes 481 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 9: sure uh your cahoonas drop and uh you know, just 482 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 9: like I said that having one player one player, it 483 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 9: always has to have more. But you have one player 484 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 9: that's a spark plug on the team. That's a good 485 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 9: start for getting things going, getting things started in the 486 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 9: right direction. And James Connor has depth. They've been that 487 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 9: guy that we called him from the past few years. 488 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: So you know what is really cool too, Elsie is 489 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: the fact that the Arizona curdles have a tight end. 490 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 1: And it's Trey McBride that I'm talking about. And I 491 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: know you're aware of Trey McBride, but he loves to 492 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: hurdle people. Have you seen him do this? Elsie? 493 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 9: Absolutely have washed him. And you know, he kind of 494 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 9: reminds me of some stuff that I used to try back. 495 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I was going to ask you. 496 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, man, but what an athlete though, Man, this guy 497 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 9: is a beast. You know when he gets the ball 498 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 9: in his hands, you know those dbs that they know 499 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 9: they can't hit him up top, and he knows they 500 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 9: can't hit him up top, so his only option is 501 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 9: to jump over him. And he's been successful with it 502 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 9: so far. I just wanted to be a little bit 503 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 9: more selected. 504 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, to go up. But Larry, that that was you. You. 505 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: You did some hurdling on the football field as well. 506 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, man, you know that was the thing. You know, 507 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 9: once you get your momentum up, you know, it's either 508 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 9: run over them or run over them or jump over him. 509 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 9: And you know you got to choose to you know, 510 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 9: choose wisely. It is the best thing I can say 511 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 9: about that. 512 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you when he makes when he 513 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 6: makes the silver screen with his hurdle like you did 514 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 6: in Jerry McGuire, then Trey McBride will have something to 515 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 6: talk about, you know what I mean. In fact, we're 516 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 6: gonna show him Jerry McGuire and show him your hurdle, 517 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 6: your famous hurdle there against Dallas on Monday night. Hey, Larry, 518 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 6: we really appreciate it, really enjoyed it. Always a pleasure, 519 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 6: always informative. Keep up all the great work and we 520 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 6: look forward to talking to you down the road. 521 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 9: Always a pleasure, guys. In partying, I want to in 522 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 9: thoughts and prayers out to the house from the Caske family, 523 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 9: the Chicago community, Chicago Bears community on the passing of 524 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 9: Virginia Hallis McCaskey. You've been around the game a long 525 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 9: time and it brought a lot to our game. 526 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 6: Yes, Larry Senter, love you buddy, Appreciate it, Larry. The 527 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 6: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert We 528 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 6: are santan Ford. 529 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: Connor alone back Curry takes give the Connor this time, 530 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: ain't easily straight ahead for the touchdown. 531 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: You give me three dirt liquors and a ground pounder 532 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna break the plane every time. 533 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 3: Urry, barking out the call, takes the snap, hands it off. 534 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 3: Benson running left, dives into the end zone. First first touchdown. 535 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: Give it to Trey Benson. Let him get a little 536 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: pay dirt, a little grease for. 537 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: Trey Benson breaking free is Steamer Kada at the forty 538 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 3: dear site, thirty twenty ten to five touchdown. 539 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 6: Forget about the hell, Mary about the hell. 540 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: Lamari Steamrcada w a handoff, runs fifty three yards for 541 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 3: a touchdown. 542 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 543 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 6: Cardinals. Much of the season were a run first offense. 544 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 6: Seems like when the Cardinals are at their best on offense, 545 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 6: it is run first. It is kram at vertical. Sure enough. 546 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 6: Second straight season under Jonathan Gannon and Drew Petsing, they've 547 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 6: been a top ten rushing team. Second straight season. They 548 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 6: finished number two in yards per carry better than five 549 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 6: yards of carry in twenty twenty four. Welcome back in 550 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 6: to the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and 551 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 6: Gilbert We are santan Ford, Paul calvic Ron Wolfley in 552 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 6: special thanks once again to former Cardinals running back Larry Centers. Interesting, 553 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 6: among other things, when he said that the advantage in 554 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 6: the game Super Bowl Sunday, in his words, goes to 555 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 6: Andy Reid, who's the best single game coach ever quote 556 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 6: un quote from Larry Centers. We'll get into the Super 557 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 6: Bowl a little bit later here to wrap up the 558 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: Big Red Rage, but first we'll give me your thoughts 559 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 6: on what Larry had to say on whether there is 560 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 6: a role for a run game in today's NFL. Obviously, 561 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 6: the Eagles are speaking that into existence. They are going 562 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 6: to come out of this season, out of this playoff 563 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 6: run with more than three thousand rushing yards as a team, 564 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 6: one of the best rushing seasons in the history of 565 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 6: the league. 566 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: Paul, there's no doubt about it. The running back is 567 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: back in the National Football League and the running game 568 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: is also back in the National Football League. The pendulum, 569 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time, but it's swung 570 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: all the way out there. About four or five years ago, 571 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: it was all about the spread and this new age 572 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: offense that was taking over the zone read of course, 573 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: and the RPO it was taking over the National Football League. 574 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: And now I think it is swung back that pendulum 575 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: the way that it always does. And now it really 576 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: is a mixture of what is going on. So is 577 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: there a spot for Saquon Barkley and being a dominant 578 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: rushing attack like the Philadelphia Eagles aren't, Yes, of course 579 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: there is. Is there a spot for a James Connor 580 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: and the Arizona Cardinals to be able to go out 581 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: there and be a run first team. Yes, And you 582 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: know what, You're seeing it more and more and more 583 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: all over the NFL. 584 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 6: It's amazing how players know players. When you asked Larry 585 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 6: Centers about James Connor, he talked about the mentality, how 586 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 6: he sets the tone. How often have we talked about 587 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 6: that with in regards to the Cardinals team captain. In fact, 588 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 6: here's Jonathan Gannon towards the end of the season. Remember 589 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 6: what he said when he was asked, why is James 590 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 6: Connor a premier player? 591 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 11: We have some different variety in the run game, and 592 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 11: he can really do it all. He can run wide zone, 593 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 11: he can run inside zone, he can run gaps, gemes, 594 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 11: he can do it from gone, from under, from pistol 595 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 11: so and then obviously his style of running. He's a 596 00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 11: premier player. 597 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: You know. 598 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 11: He hits it, he's got good vision, he's got good balance, 599 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 11: he's hard to bring down, he's got juice. 600 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, he spent the whole season in the top three 601 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 6: or five running backs in the league, along with the 602 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 6: likes of Derrick Henry and Mistackle Sports just breaking tackles 603 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 6: yards after contact and well, if you know that, that's 604 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 6: the favorite running back of an offensive lineman, right, the 605 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 6: guy who doesn't go down on first contact. 606 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it, Bully. They love blocking for 607 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: a guy like James Connor. What was so interesting just 608 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: listening to JG is he mentioned all those things in 609 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: every one of those attributes of James Connor, Pully, He's 610 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: right on, He's spot on, absolutely legitimate, every one of 611 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: those things he mentioned and he mentioned many things they 612 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: are about James Connor, and yet leadership might be the 613 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: best thing about James Connor. His leadership not only his 614 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: ability to walk up to somebody and say, come on, now, 615 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: we need you, you can be better, let's go, but 616 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: also by going out and competing the way that he does, Polly, 617 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: the impact that he has. You've seen this. You've seen 618 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: it with the defensive players that are over on the sideline. 619 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: When James Connor trucks somebody. Oh boy, do they come 620 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: off the bench? 621 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 6: Polly, Oh, absolutely they do, yep. 622 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: And that is that is a form of leadership once again, 623 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: to go out and play as hard as he does, 624 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: where he challenges every guy that's on the sideline, every 625 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: guy that's out on the field, whether it's the player 626 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals or the opponent that they're playing. He 627 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: challenges everybody on the field. Are you willing to play 628 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: as hard as I am? Are you willing to give 629 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: what I give? 630 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 6: So, as a Cardinals go into year three under Drew 631 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 6: Petsyen and Jonathan Gannon, what do you think the likelihood 632 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 6: is of a one to two punch, for example, a 633 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 6: Trey Benson developing into that guy I think in the Lions, 634 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 6: for example, a big run team. I think a David 635 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 6: Montgomery the muscle, and then Jamier Gibbs right, and I 636 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 6: look at a James Connor. I say, you know what 637 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 6: if he has a running mate, a guy like Trey 638 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 6: Benson who runs a sub four four but looks like 639 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 6: he learned at the school of James Connor. About mid 640 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 6: season before he got injured, he started lowering the shoulder pads. 641 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 6: I'm really intrigued about the upside of Trey Benson in 642 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 6: year two. 643 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: I love the fact that you acknowledge that, Bully. I 644 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: love the fact that you said, you know, midway through 645 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: the season, suddenly Trey Benson started running the ball in 646 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: a much more vertical kind of way, a north south 647 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: kind of way, and ripping it, dipping and ripping on 648 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: a lot of would be tackles. I'm so glad you 649 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: said that, because when he first showed up, he was 650 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: incredibly fast, He looked great in a UNI, and he 651 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: was about dancing a little bit, and dancing a little bit. 652 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: I would say too much, and I think Trey Benson 653 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: would tell you this himself, but man, he got it. 654 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: After sitting in the same room as James Connor and 655 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: watching the same tape and listening to a coach glorify 656 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: James Connor for what he was doing. I think Trey 657 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Benson learned an awful lot, and he got better as 658 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: the year went along, of course, to a point where 659 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: he was averaging four point six yards per carry himself. 660 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 6: When you talk about the other three guys who stood 661 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 6: out the most the second half of the season, between 662 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 6: Amar de Mercatto and he got dinged up at the end, 663 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 6: DJ Dallas he got action in the backfield the end 664 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 6: of the season, and then Michael Carter the last couple 665 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 6: of games. If you're Jonathan Gannon, what are you thinking 666 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 6: about the rest of that running back room right now? 667 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? I know, bully, and it's really really tough right there. 668 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: Michael Carter is not a big contributor on special teams, 669 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: but I love him. He is the one guy. Man. 670 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: He's the smallest of those running backs that you just 671 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: mentioned right there, He's the smallest, but man, he he's 672 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: got this something something about him that I think is 673 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: really interesting. I think DJ Dallas is a great special 674 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: teams player. Think he's always gonna have a spot on 675 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: your roster. I think he can be a guy that 676 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: can come in and be a third down back, or 677 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: you can line him up, stick his toes at seven 678 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 1: yards and let him attack the line of scrimmage. He's very, 679 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: very thick. But yeah, of those three guys that are left, 680 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: I would have to say Michael Carter strikes me as 681 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: being the most advanced in terms of being a pro. 682 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: And at the same time, I would have to say 683 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: that Amari de Mercado, I think is the perfect combination 684 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: of a guy who can be a backup to James 685 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: Connor in rundown and a guy that can come on 686 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: and be a third down back as well. 687 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 6: And my last question is about the running quarterback. And 688 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 6: I bring that up because look at the Super Bowl, 689 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 6: look at Jalen Hurts, the ability to keep a defense. Honest, 690 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 6: look what Lamar Jackson did this year more than nine 691 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 6: hundred yards rushing. He's probably gonna be your MVP tonight. 692 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 6: And then Patrick Mahomes. Do you realize that Patrick Mahomes 693 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 6: is the all time leading rusher in Kansas City Chiefs 694 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 6: playoff history? 695 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: More though I did not not know that. 696 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 6: So when the postseason, it's Patrick Mahomes uses his legs 697 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 6: to great effectiveness. Would you still continue to feature Kyler 698 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 6: in the run game going forward? 699 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not feature him, PAULI, I've been very 700 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: consistent on Kyler Murray and not featuring Kyler Murray. Do 701 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I want to have a couple of called runs for 702 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in a game? Yeah? Absolutely? Do I want 703 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: twelve called runs for Kyler Murray? I do not. I 704 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: want him to use his legs, and I want him 705 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: to do that at an unscheduled level, if you know 706 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, instead of calling the play for him, 707 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: I want him to use his legs and his athleticism 708 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: when the opportunity presents itself. 709 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 6: I learn all about Cardinal's season tickets, the luxury seating 710 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 6: and all the seating experiences. Go to azycardinals dot com 711 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 6: slash tickets. Well thinks he knows about this Super Bowl matchup. 712 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 6: We give him a real preview. Next on the Big 713 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 6: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 714 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 2: Toss it to the left side, Barkley's got a lane 715 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 2: to the fifty to the forty five has been moved. 716 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 5: To the forty fourth. 717 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 4: He still coming on six at six side twenty fifteen 718 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 4: ten touchdown, say what Parkley, He's incredible, sixty yards skidding 719 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 4: away from would be tacklers. Shotgunsnap, Mahomes run its himself 720 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 4: at the ten inside the. 721 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: Numbers took five and he times ten for the touchdown. 722 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 4: Ten yard touch shown. 723 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 6: Run by Mahomes. 724 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 4: Clucker's ahead in the wish phone formation. 725 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: He takes it and runs for six. 726 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 6: How about it? Kevin Harland Iron Eagle on the calls 727 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 6: right there once again, Patrick Mahomes, the all time career 728 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 6: rushing leader in the postseason for the Kansas City Chiefs, 729 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley and NFL record seven touchdown runs of sixty 730 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 6: or more yards this season. So there, It's all part 731 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 6: of our preview year Super Bowl fifty nine or rematch 732 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 6: of Super Bowl fifty seven, which was played two years 733 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 6: ago at State Farms Stadium. Paul Kelve, c Ron Wolfley, 734 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 6: and two Super Bowl trends. Wolf you tell me which 735 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 6: one is more meaningful. You're ready for a little info? 736 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 6: Here here we go, yeah, Pauly go Okay. So the 737 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 6: Chiefs are underfeed of this season win. Taylor Swift is 738 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 6: watching boyfriend Travis Kelcey in person. They're nine to zero. 739 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 6: Oh no, or you could opt for Patrick Mahomes has 740 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 6: never lost to Eagles d C Vic Fangio. He is 741 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 6: eight to no all time, six times when he was 742 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 6: head coach of the Denver Broncos and then twice when 743 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 6: he was DC of the Miami Dolphins. Suffice it to 744 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 6: say that Vic Fangio did not have the same personnell 745 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 6: he has right now in an Eagles defense that was 746 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 6: either one or two in pretty much every meaningful category 747 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 6: this year. So how stout is that Eagles defense and 748 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 6: how equipped are they to go against Patrick Mahomes and company. 749 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, this this is going to be an awesome game, 750 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: and I hope it is. I hope that it's going 751 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: to be a contested, one possession game coming down to 752 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: that last possession. I really do believe it is going 753 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: to be competitive. But to me, there are a couple 754 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: of matchups in Super Bowl fifty nine. One of them 755 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Pat Mahomes of course in the Kansas City 756 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs ability to throw the ball via Travis Kelcey of 757 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: course as the number one receiver in that And there 758 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: are some other receivers out there that are very familiar 759 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: to Cardinal fans. DeAndre Hopkins of course and Hollywood Brown 760 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: and we'll see, we'll see how that transpires. But that number, 761 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: that passing attack of the Kansas City Chiefs against the 762 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: number one defense in the National Football League against the pass, 763 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: both in yards per game allowed and yards per play allowed, 764 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: it is the Philadelphia Eagles. They are excellent. They are 765 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: the best in the football universe in terms of shutting 766 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: down the pass. That is one of the great matchups, 767 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: I think in this game. And then when you flip 768 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: it around the other side of it, it's the Philadelphia Eagles' 769 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: ability to line up and run the ball against the 770 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs front seven that is very very tough, 771 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: top ten in terms of rushing yards per game and 772 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: rushing yards per play allowed, two strengths going at it 773 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: on two different sides of the ball. That to me 774 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: is going to be the matchup of this game. 775 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 6: All right, So let's talk about Mahomes against that number 776 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 6: one ranked passing defense of the Eagles. You realize in 777 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 6: his career in the playoffs seas three to zero against 778 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 6: teams who have number one ranked passing defense. I mean, 779 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 6: the stats are just ridiculous. For a guy who's seventeen 780 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 6: and three all time in playoff games, they have won 781 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 6: seventeen straight one possession games. It but what the real 782 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 6: key If you drill down and you read a lot 783 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 6: of this analysis out, there was the quick passing game 784 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 6: that Kansas City and Andy Reid used to pick apart 785 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 6: Philadelphia in Super Bowl fifty seven at State Farm Stadium. 786 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 6: On quick passes under two point five seconds, Mahomes went 787 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 6: thirteen for thirteen, two touchdowns in a passer rating a 788 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 6: one twenty nine. So I'm wondering for everything that Vic 789 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 6: Vangil might dial up. Is Patrick Mahomes just sort of 790 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 6: like a curve warner, just able just to quickly decide 791 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 6: and decipher, read and react and pick apart a passing defense. 792 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: Yes he is. He is that good. But here's the 793 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: thing with the Kansas City Chiefs. You also have to 794 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: have your receivers on the same page. And that's what 795 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: I think is going to be a challenge for the 796 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs in terms of going ahead and trying 797 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: to throw the ball as much as I think they will, 798 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: even though the Eagles are excellent at shutting it down. 799 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got guys like Darius Slay Junior. You 800 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: got guys really experienced secondary CJ. Gardner Johnson as well. 801 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: You've got guys in that secondary that are excellent football 802 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: players that you're gonna have this row the wide receivers 803 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs, and that to me to 804 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: your point, PAULI, I think they're doing everything they can 805 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: to try to really get them off of the route 806 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: that they want to run. And I think we're going 807 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: to see an awful lot of press in this game 808 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 1: as well. 809 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 6: And you know what, that's a good point. The Eagles 810 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 6: defense has eight new starters this year. Think about that, 811 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 6: including yeah, two rookie corners who are both finalists among 812 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 6: the top five for Defensive Rookie of the Year and 813 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 6: Quinyan Mitchell and Cooper de jen. Here's the other thing 814 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 6: I'll throw. As long as we're talking about Philly's defense, 815 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 6: I think they have an advantage when it comes to 816 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 6: that interior d line. If Joe Tooney is going to 817 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 6: be out at left tackle, then you're under manned in 818 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 6: the interior line for Kansas City. And I mean, I 819 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 6: would be afraid, very afraid if I'm Andy Reid and 820 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes. I mean, the wrecking balls that are Jalen 821 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 6: Carter and Jordan Davis. Yes, because we know how Tom 822 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 6: Brady lost his Super Bowls, right. You got to hit 823 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 6: and harass these. 824 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: Guys, There's no doubt about it. You do. You have 825 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: to be able to do that, and I think the 826 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles have four guys that can actually get to 827 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback, especially when you're talking about the interior with 828 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter in particular. One of the 829 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: most destructive forces there is in the football universe is 830 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: a three technique, and that is Jalen Carter. He does 831 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: it over and over and over again and penetrates and 832 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: does an excellent job as well, mixing it up sometimes bowling, 833 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: sometimes going with the arm over does an excellent job 834 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: in terms of getting that push up the middle in 835 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: that interior pocket. And it's not just that though, Paully. 836 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: It's also this Brandon Graham. I'm just going to throw 837 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: that out there right now. I mean Brandon Graham. They're saying, Paulie, 838 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: I'm hearing he could be a go for Super Bowl 839 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: fifty nine. And if he is, I know he hasn't 840 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: played in a long time. I know he's been on 841 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: IR all season long for the most part. But Brandon Graham, 842 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: that's a name to remember. If he gets the opportunity 843 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: with those fresh fresh legs to go out there and 844 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: rush Pat Mahomes, who knows. 845 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 6: You know, it's remarkable too. Real quick. On the Eagles defense, 846 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 6: their middle linebacker Zach Bond, I mean, he has been 847 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 6: bawling out first team All Pro. He had four unremarkable 848 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 6: years in New Orleans. He signed a one year, proven 849 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 6: deal for three point five million. I mean, you talk 850 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 6: about paying off, He's going to be a free agent. 851 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 6: Keep an eye on Zach Bond. That dude is going 852 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 6: to sign a huge contract. So now when you look 853 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,479 Speaker 6: at that Philadelphia offensive line, let's flip sides real quick. 854 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 6: You talk about the KC defensive front, but you got 855 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 6: an Eagles offensive line. All five guys got All Pro votes. 856 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,720 Speaker 6: That is maybe the best offensive line in the league. 857 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 6: And they know it. They don't take a lot of risks. 858 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 6: Since Week eight, they're plus twenty seven in the turnover ratio. 859 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 6: They are not turning the ball over and they just 860 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 6: play really sound offensive football, do they not? 861 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: No doubt about it, Pully, That offensive line is right there. 862 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: When you talk about the best offensive lines in the 863 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: football universe. And it's funny because I think of Landon, 864 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: Dickerson and Mackay. I think of those two guys as well. 865 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: Why do I think of those two guys? Well, because 866 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Chris Jones. Of course, it's that destructive 867 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: three technique force. That's gonna be interesting to see where 868 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: Chris Jones decides to line up and rush the passer. 869 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 6: I'm looking at Makai Becton. Not only is he six ' 870 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 6: seven three sixty something, but he's a free agent after 871 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 6: this year. He's the former eleventh pick overall by the 872 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 6: Jets who flamed out mainly because of injuries at tackle. 873 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 6: He is now a dominating interior guard. Hmm, you think 874 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 6: of a team that might very interesting? 875 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: All right? 876 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 6: So Wolf, let's get you what do you think? I 877 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 6: know you load the predictions, but are you leaning one way? 878 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 6: Come on, give us a choice here. What are you thinking? 879 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: You know what? Poly Football is a game about running 880 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: the ball, and by the way, if you can turn 881 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: your opponent over, you're probably gonna win that game. Based 882 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: on what I've seen from the Philadelphia Eagles, they're going 883 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: to run the ball and they're gonna show you down. 884 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: And turn you over. I think the Eagles are going 885 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 1: to win this. 886 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 6: Game, really, because all four Super Bowl rematches that have 887 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 6: occurred within five years have been won by the winner 888 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 6: of the first meeting. Kansas City, Here comes your three peat, 889 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 6: Jim mol Monroe, Thank you, Cody Fincher, Matt Lazarus, Larry Centers, 890 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 6: Ron Wolfley on Paul CALVC. This has been the Big 891 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 6: Red Rage. 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