Speaker 1: It's not whether or not Heather Debro as a human
Speaker 1: being is a flop. The question is was Heather Debro's
Speaker 1: return right to this current season of the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of Orange County a flop. Stay tuned, we'll get into
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Speaker 1: with the King. It's me Carlos King, the King of
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Speaker 1: Yes, now listen, Me and Jazz have the key key.
Speaker 1: So if you have been a listener of the podcast,
Speaker 1: you would know that. In my introduction, I said to
Speaker 1: you that I've been approached to do a podcast for
Speaker 1: so many years and the reason why I decided to
Speaker 1: say yes to the mess honey, Yes, it's because when
Speaker 1: I met Jazzmin, it was like, this is my homegirl
Speaker 1: since middle school and not middle school.
Speaker 2: We have an age difference.
Speaker 3: You see what I love, Moddy, You see why I
Speaker 3: stand because she is shady booze.
Speaker 1: Now look, honey, we may have a different age difference,
Speaker 1: but the black on our face and cracking.
Speaker 4: So listen, just saying an age difference, and I'm much younger.
Speaker 4: I'm twenty three years old, so you know, getting a
Speaker 4: little gen z up in here.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, no, honey, I'm the grand Dome of reality TV.
Speaker 1: So but no, I could not find a more perfect
Speaker 1: person to have this conversation with. So today's topic is,
Speaker 1: was Heather Debro's return on the Real Housewives of.
Speaker 3: Orange County a flop? So?
Speaker 1: Look, before Jazz and I answer that question, I want
Speaker 1: to preface it with this. I'm not asking if Heather
Speaker 1: Debre as a person is a flop, because this podcast
Speaker 1: we're not mean. You know, we have funny throwchet, but
Speaker 1: it's not mean spirited. So it's not whether or not
Speaker 1: Heather Debro as a human being.
Speaker 3: As a flop.
Speaker 1: The question is, was Heather Debrell's return right to this
Speaker 1: current season of the Real Housewives of Orange County a flop?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4: I don't think like I will never personally I've never
Speaker 4: personally met Heather, But yeah, was she a flop on
Speaker 4: the Real Housewives of Orange County? So much so that
Speaker 4: I could not finish the season. That's how much it
Speaker 4: flopp Piana, flop, Pianna, oh, the whole goddamn cast, but missed.
Speaker 4: They brought her back to be Look, they brought her
Speaker 4: back to be that girl, and I feel like past
Speaker 4: the first episode when we got that tour of her
Speaker 4: mall aka her home.
Speaker 1: Not the mall of America, Listen, that's exactly what it
Speaker 1: was given.
Speaker 4: I was looking for the Forst Cafe inside of her home,
Speaker 4: the Ferris Well.
Speaker 2: I was looking for all of.
Speaker 4: That, but past that, I was so uninterested.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 4: Personally just not a Heather Debreu fan like that. So
Speaker 4: when I saw that they were bringing her back, I
Speaker 4: was like, I'm not amused, I'm not moved, I'm not excited.
Speaker 4: I did want to see that house. I didn't want
Speaker 4: to see that house. But Floppiana. That's my final answer.
Speaker 4: How about you?
Speaker 1: Everything you said, sis, I have to co sign on
Speaker 1: the dotted line initial in this box, laminated getting notarized.
Speaker 2: Sin filled and delivered.
Speaker 3: I'm yours. Let's come on, Stevie Weather.
Speaker 1: I agree that Heather Debre's return is a flop. And
Speaker 1: what's so funny is I literally stopped watching this current
Speaker 1: season of the Real Housewives of Orange County because it
Speaker 1: just wasn't great. And let me explain to you why
Speaker 1: I agree with everything Jasmine said. I was not a
Speaker 1: huge Heather de bro fan. She was fine in the
Speaker 1: midst of an ensemble. When you are banking your return
Speaker 1: on an individual.
Speaker 3: It's what Ebedy K.
Speaker 1: Williams called a force multiplier, right.
Speaker 2: Jazz Like, yep, exactly.
Speaker 1: I used to call it the Queen Bee of the show,
Speaker 1: the Nine Leaks is of the world that Vicki Galvins Sins,
Speaker 1: the Bethany Francos, you know, like the Teresa Judais like,
Speaker 1: you know, the force multipliers. Heather debro is not a
Speaker 1: force multiplier. It's like being in a girl group. She
Speaker 1: is a background singer, a.
Speaker 4: Very strong backup singer, right yeah, But she is not
Speaker 4: the lead. She is not, cannot and will not ever be.
Speaker 4: The OC doesn't have a lead singer this season. They're
Speaker 4: trying to give it to Shannon. But she's not a
Speaker 4: force multiplier either. She's not the lead girl. You know,
Speaker 4: when I stopped watching this season that episode when the
Speaker 4: and Gina went to New York and they were eating pizza,
Speaker 4: on the She's and I was like, as if, you know,
Speaker 4: talking to Ebony, like as if her and what's the same.
Speaker 2: Would ever be friends?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Whatever, be friends in real life Gina and Heather. None
Speaker 4: of this is realistic. It's just not realistic.
Speaker 1: No, So jazz Man, I could not agree with you more.
Speaker 1: In real life, the likes of a Heather de Bro
Speaker 1: would never be seen with Gina period now. And you
Speaker 1: know how we know that's a fact. We saw Heather's
Speaker 1: friends at the dinner party, yes, and they were just
Speaker 1: as fancy as Heather.
Speaker 3: So miss me with this labor both from New York
Speaker 3: like all of that.
Speaker 4: Girl bye, sweetie. Oprah and I are both from Milwaukee.
Speaker 4: She's not coming to my home helping me with my wardrobe.
Speaker 4: I would welcome it, like Oprah, You're one hundred percent welcome,
Speaker 4: like come make me over. Yeah, but it's just not
Speaker 4: realistic at this point, at this point in my life,
Speaker 4: it's not realistic that I'll have a friend like Oprah.
Speaker 4: That's what Gina, Gina, Heather was giving me back, So
Speaker 4: like two opposite ends of the spectrum for me.
Speaker 1: Oh no, absolutely, And listen, the problem is this, so
Speaker 1: I like you Jazmine watched the first episode and I tweeted,
Speaker 1: and y'all know, when I tweet something.
Speaker 3: It's I must believe in it.
Speaker 1: So I tweeted how much I enjoyed the first episode
Speaker 1: because I thought it was a great introduction to the
Speaker 1: cast and to Heather's return.
Speaker 3: And then when Gina spilled the tea.
Speaker 1: About Nicole having a boss job alleged boss job from
Speaker 1: Terry that turned out to be something that was dismissed
Speaker 1: or the lawsuit was dropped, I thought the whole thing
Speaker 1: was fantastic. So I was like, Okay, maybe Heather's return
Speaker 1: is going to be great. But Baby, after the second episode,
Speaker 1: it was dry boots, Like.
Speaker 4: Even when I try to go back to catch up,
Speaker 4: I'm just like, like, I'm gonna go watch I don't
Speaker 4: know Public Broadcasting System Girl before I finish this. I
Speaker 4: couldn't finish it. I couldn't because they're trying to make
Speaker 4: too much happen. And I think, you know, with the
Speaker 4: introduction of Noella, I don't like Noella as a housewife
Speaker 4: me neither.
Speaker 2: She's trying. She's trying very very hard.
Speaker 1: Right, There's a difference between being thirsty and dehydrated and
Speaker 1: on life support. So when you sign up to be
Speaker 1: on a reality show, I Carlos King, I want you
Speaker 1: to be thirsty. And when I say thirsty, sure that
Speaker 1: means I want you to really want to do a
Speaker 1: good job. I want you to like give your real life.
Speaker 1: That to me is thirsty. So I love thirsty. Dehydrated
Speaker 1: is when you're doing the absolute most, but you have
Speaker 1: redeeming qualities about yourself to where it's like, okay, girl,
Speaker 1: you're too bit excited to be on TV, but it's.
Speaker 3: All good when you are on life support.
Speaker 1: It's when you are so over the top you are
Speaker 1: with them Charter, you aren't real. There is nothing real
Speaker 1: about Noela, and no I think she's gorgeous.
Speaker 4: Beautiful gowns, beautiful gowns, gorgeous gowns like no so pretty,
Speaker 4: like I would look at you. You can just if
Speaker 4: they want to just have her, just give me a
Speaker 4: static image of Noela. I would just literally want to
Speaker 4: watch her. She's gorgeous, gorgeous, But a housewife gorgeous does
Speaker 4: not a housewife make okay.
Speaker 3: Not at all.
Speaker 1: No, Listen, you gotta be more than gorgeous to be
Speaker 1: a housewife, and you gotta be more than just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about everything like that's fine. But it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to connect to Noela because I haven't
Speaker 1: seen you with his husband who allegedly did these things
Speaker 1: to you, so I can't connect with you. I'm not
Speaker 1: seeing your child, so I can't connect with you being
Speaker 1: a mom.
Speaker 3: All I see is you crying all day long. And
Speaker 3: I met.
Speaker 1: You sis, so I feel bad for your situation. It's
Speaker 1: hard for me to connect with you, which is why
Speaker 1: it was hard for me to connect with Gina when
Speaker 1: she first started, because it was like, first of all, girl,
Speaker 1: your man's in LA and has an apartment there, but
Speaker 1: he ain't on TV. I work on love and marriage
Speaker 1: Huntspelle Enough said, if your man ain't coming home, he's
Speaker 1: doing other things.
Speaker 4: Honey, listen, somebody else was up in that apartment, and
Speaker 4: somebody else was. It later came out someone else one
Speaker 4: percent was.
Speaker 3: And that's why it's hard for me to connect with Gina.
Speaker 2: You know what Gina like.
Speaker 4: The whole way that Gina's story line played out with
Speaker 4: that situation, it made me feel like, and you can
Speaker 4: answer this as an expert, it made me feel like
Speaker 4: they were already on the outs, but she needed that
Speaker 4: to be her storyline when they started recording. I think
Speaker 4: the same thing happened with Noela. I feel like her
Speaker 4: and her men were already done because she came off
Speaker 4: just Toushan giving us the sex dungeon that was really
Speaker 4: a sex closet, Like, girl, don't tell me you got
Speaker 4: a sex dungeon down down to the OC and it's
Speaker 4: a little broom closet with a cot in it and
Speaker 4: a couple of a couple of whips and chains.
Speaker 3: Girl, that is not girl Amazon. Before production started, right.
Speaker 2: Right, that's what it was given me like.
Speaker 4: It made me feel like, no y'all were already on
Speaker 4: the outs, but you needed a dramatic storyline when filming started,
Speaker 4: so you just ran with this. But that's why we
Speaker 4: ain't never see that man. We didn't start seeing Gena's
Speaker 4: man until I think this season was the first he
Speaker 4: came to be with the kids.
Speaker 2: We never saw I think. So I want to say
Speaker 2: I've seen this on a.
Speaker 1: Preview, not the overview, but the preview exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: That's that's when I think I seen him, I.
Speaker 4: Think, But yeah, it's given y'all were already broken up,
Speaker 4: and I had to. I knew I had to do
Speaker 4: this reality show, and I need to be as dramatic
Speaker 4: as possible, and so I wanted to just act like
Speaker 4: this breakup was happening while filming what's happening?
Speaker 2: But I know we're not.
Speaker 4: I could go on a deep dive about these ladies,
Speaker 4: but I know we're talking about fancy fancy flop, not
Speaker 4: fancy pants fancy flop. I know we're talking about her.
Speaker 1: Bob Damn Jazz, tell how you really feel, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Says but you know what, Heather is a level of
Speaker 4: rich that I can only aspire to. So I will
Speaker 4: give her that. I will give her.
Speaker 3: That, all that, all that.
Speaker 1: Listen, I enjoyed Heather in the midst of Tamra Vicky
Speaker 1: Kelly Dodd, Megan King Edmunds.
Speaker 3: Like I enjoyed that, right MK, I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: When listen, when I'm casting for a reality show, a
Speaker 1: Heather debro type which is stoic, rich, beautiful, family, successful,
Speaker 1: o CD type A. Those are all good qualities for
Speaker 1: reality star, but you never put that quality into being
Speaker 1: the queen bee because the purpose of the queen bee,
Speaker 1: aka the force multiplier, is that person has the strength
Speaker 1: to rally the girls together. They have this mother quality,
Speaker 1: like how Kelly Michelle said Beyonce was the mother of
Speaker 1: Destiny's child, like Beyond it was like, no, we gotta
Speaker 1: rehearse girls, we gotta do that. Every reality show has that.
Speaker 1: OC did not have it. Heather Debro is not that girl.
Speaker 1: And as much as they tried to make Fetch happen,
Speaker 1: I wanted to burn the book of OC and just
Speaker 1: throw this season in the trash can.
Speaker 2: That's where it belongs.
Speaker 4: It is a whole heap of just everything's I go
Speaker 4: in the words Tamma said that shit so and I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree with her.
Speaker 4: It's just it's hard to watch like they, like I said,
Speaker 4: they don't have that queen Bee, that force multiplier. They
Speaker 4: don't have that lead singer, and they desperately need one.
Speaker 4: Because I don't think that the OC is a lost cause.
Speaker 4: Like I was seeing people saying like they should just
Speaker 4: can it. I don't think it's a lost cause. I
Speaker 4: think they just need people in place that can really
Speaker 4: do the job that you mentioned, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like now, I wouldn't say matriarch because I don't think
Speaker 4: Niini was was like the mother. I think Niini had
Speaker 4: this quality that everybody wanted to be close to her.
Speaker 2: So that's what was.
Speaker 4: Able to bring everybody together for you know, that particular franchise,
Speaker 4: because everybody wanted to be Nini's friends.
Speaker 2: But she no mother's going to open the door and
Speaker 2: tell you, hey, Nini, you are good.
Speaker 3: You don't bitch.
Speaker 2: Your mother is not gonna say that.
Speaker 1: I mean, your father was raised on the other side
Speaker 1: of the tracks.
Speaker 3: You would. We'll be right back. Have some quick ass.
Speaker 3: This is reality with the King.
Speaker 2: I love getting in the t from me.
Speaker 1: Okay, when I was the executive producer of Atlanta Housewives,
Speaker 1: Nimi League did not come back at the top of
Speaker 1: season eight, And I remember a moment I was filming
Speaker 1: season eight of Atlanta Housewives and I was talking to
Speaker 1: my fellow producer and I said, something's off about this season,
Speaker 1: and I said, they don't have a queen be So
Speaker 1: to your point, Nini is not the mother, but as
Speaker 1: somebody who's worked on Atlanta Housewives and worked with Nini
Speaker 1: when she was on for those years, Nini had this
Speaker 1: presence where the ladies respected her so much, and to
Speaker 1: your point, they did want to be friends with her
Speaker 1: because Nini's a good time, and Nimi definitely knew how
Speaker 1: to rally the troops in a way that she felt like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go now. If you were on Nini's bad side,
Speaker 1: then yes, the doorba gets slammed in your face at
Speaker 1: the Intercontinental Hotel Honey in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 3: So the OC needed that.
Speaker 1: And what's sad is that person was Vicky and even Tamra.
Speaker 1: And when you lose two force multipliers at the same
Speaker 1: damn time and you replace them with one person who
Speaker 1: isn't the most likable person in the world.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's not gonna work. No, it's not. Would
Speaker 2: I would argue with you.
Speaker 4: Vicky and Tamar aren't exactly likable either, right, Like I
Speaker 4: can A lot of people make those points of like
Speaker 4: they like, Vicki is not a likable person. You know,
Speaker 4: people talk a lot of shit about Tamra. For what
Speaker 4: it's worth, I one hundred percent enjoy watching Tamra on
Speaker 4: TV and then being able to meet her. I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 4: she's actually a very pleasant person. Right, But they did something,
Speaker 4: they had something like what Nini had, Like Vicki for sure,
Speaker 4: even when you can't stand her, even when she's yelling
Speaker 4: at somebody about a damn family van.
Speaker 2: It's so funny, is so over the top, like she
Speaker 2: is just so good.
Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm in the number of people that I
Speaker 4: would pay money for a Vicky comeback on the OC
Speaker 4: I would pay, I would. I would spend all the money.
Speaker 3: In my bank account not to pay per views.
Speaker 2: Yes, listen, yeah, you spend all this EP money on
Speaker 2: seeing Vicky again. That's how important, that's how good she
Speaker 2: was to me.
Speaker 3: I have to agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think the only way to salvage the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of Borge County you need Vicky and Tamra back.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Tamra.
Speaker 4: Tamarra as well, because Tamra was so messy, Like Tamra
Speaker 4: is the type of messy that I'm like, oh, bitch,
Speaker 4: you should not have but I'm so glass.
Speaker 1: Yes, remember she tried to get Gretchen like white girl wasted.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, MESSI oh my gosh. I feel like
Speaker 4: she added some color to that, like, you know, one
Speaker 4: the whole iconic did you go to Beth Lake?
Speaker 3: Tamar is right.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Tamra is the messy messenger.
Speaker 1: She's the bone collector. She's the villain at time, she's
Speaker 1: the comedy relief.
Speaker 3: Tamra was really that girl.
Speaker 2: She she was.
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, when we talk about well, no,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say that, I was gonna say I
Speaker 4: feel like she isn't talked about enough, but she is.
Speaker 2: I feel like people give her just due.
Speaker 4: Like if you had an honorable mention for your greatest
Speaker 4: housewives of all time, I would say Tamra should tamor
Speaker 4: will deserve a spot on the honorable.
Speaker 1: And it's funny. My top ten greatest Housewife's list was definitely,
Speaker 1: you know, a difficult task in terms of like making
Speaker 1: sure I got it right, and thankfully ninety eight percent
Speaker 1: of the world agree with me, which is which is
Speaker 1: which is good.
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that right.
Speaker 1: But what people don't know is Tamra was definitely number
Speaker 1: eleven on my list.
Speaker 4: That's great to know. I also want to people ninety
Speaker 4: eight percent of people agreed with your top three.
Speaker 2: A lot of people were.
Speaker 4: Like Kim Danielle, No, those were those were the ones
Speaker 4: that people were like, really that one too. But I
Speaker 4: feel like people would do that because they just want
Speaker 4: to hate Jaselle. But people, I feel like they were
Speaker 4: genuinely confused, like Kim and Danielle like really bitch. But
Speaker 4: I'll give you that. Definitely agree with your to.
Speaker 3: This is what it was.
Speaker 1: Though, too people those people who were like really bitch,
Speaker 1: My audience said, no, you have to listen to this
Speaker 1: guy break it down. And once you listen to his
Speaker 1: reason as to why these women are on the list,
Speaker 1: on his top ten list, it all makes sense.
Speaker 4: Oh, let me ask you a question, going back to
Speaker 4: the beautiful enriched Heatherdubro, who you know brought us here today.
Speaker 4: Where does she rank out of one hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: nine housewives? For me, She's I'm gonna say one thirty seven.
Speaker 1: I was going to say one thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm gonna say there have there have been there
Speaker 2: have been worse, my friend.
Speaker 3: I guess thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, child, yes, and listen. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, Linda, Linda, listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: Heather Debro should return next season only if Vickie, Tamra
Speaker 1: Shannon are back.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. So that's my opinion. That's
Speaker 3: my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my opinion.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this jazz.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Real Housewives of Orange County, similar
Speaker 1: to New York, should be split into two shows where
Speaker 1: there's the Real Housewives of Orange County Legacy and then
Speaker 1: a new crop of OC women for the franchise.
Speaker 4: It would depend on the reasoning for the split, because
Speaker 4: with New York they split in and they said they
Speaker 4: wanted to show this multicultural cast. There's not a multicultural
Speaker 4: cast in the OLC. Let's be very clear about this
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 2: Let's be very clear.
Speaker 4: Like they got their first black housewife in Noela, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's took taken how many, like fifteen seasons for
Speaker 4: them to be able to do that, And so I think,
Speaker 4: just you know what we know about the OLC, a
Speaker 4: multicultural cast, I don't know. I think if they split
Speaker 4: it up, it will look like they're just splitting it
Speaker 4: up so that they could have a younger batch of
Speaker 4: OC housewives and then still keep you know, the older goals,
Speaker 4: the seasoned goals women women hate to be called the
Speaker 4: older ones, but the more seasoned gals what I watch it?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But do I think it's needed. No, Because I
Speaker 4: don't think their issue is like the entire cast, like
Speaker 4: you said, they have very good ensemble, castmates and cast members.
Speaker 4: They just need that Vicki, that camera to come in
Speaker 4: and just really be like the glue. But yeah, if
Speaker 4: they came, if they split it. Listen, one, I told
Speaker 4: you this one thing about me. I'm gonna watch the Housewives,
Speaker 4: so you can give me as many spin offs unless
Speaker 4: it's Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2: Not gonna watch that, guys.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get her to get into Salt Lake
Speaker 1: City because I said to her, I understood in the beginning,
Speaker 1: because I didn't watch all the season one, but baby,
Speaker 1: season two, the moment Jen got arrested until the finale,
Speaker 1: not the reunion until the season finale was excellent television.
Speaker 2: Okay, we we can. We can.
Speaker 4: Next time I visit you, let's sit down and watch
Speaker 4: it as a family. Because I couldn't get into it.
Speaker 4: I got a couple episodes, could not get into it.
Speaker 4: But anyway, Yeah, I'm gonna watch the Housewives, regardless of
Speaker 4: if it's with the OLC Gray. If next season they
Speaker 4: come back and you know it's still boring in another flop,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it a little and then complain to
Speaker 4: you and anybody else I will listen that it's a flop,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna always watch.
Speaker 2: At least a couple of I hate watch.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, So in my opinion, I would like to
Speaker 1: see Vickie and Tama return next season.
Speaker 3: Heather can stay.
Speaker 1: See Heather, we don't think you're bad, so I want
Speaker 1: you to come back.
Speaker 3: I want you to come back.
Speaker 1: So I think you fit a mongst the ensemble. So Shannon, Bickie, Tamara, Heather,
Speaker 1: and give me two new women. I feel bad for
Speaker 1: saying this, but I gotta be honest. I'm over Gina, Emily,
Speaker 1: doctor Jen and Noela.
Speaker 3: I think, I think ye.
Speaker 1: I think it's time to sell them off into the
Speaker 1: OC waters and.
Speaker 2: Go on vacation.
Speaker 4: I okay, I would actually if Noela came back with
Speaker 4: the cast that you just named and maybe like another
Speaker 4: new person, I wouldn't hate that because, like I said, Noela,
Speaker 4: like you caught you said, Noela is on life support,
Speaker 4: just like beyond thirsty to be on TV. If she
Speaker 4: can mellow that out a little bit, I think she
Speaker 4: can give some good television. Because what I do think
Speaker 4: is that she's open minded enough to be like wild
Speaker 4: on TV and to like really give us kind of
Speaker 4: like what camera used to get like in the pool
Speaker 4: with no clothes on, Like I feel like she could
Speaker 4: be that type of like really fun, but she has
Speaker 4: to get past this like trying to mimic everything that
Speaker 4: she's studied.
Speaker 1: She got the sex dungeon from Candy, she got she
Speaker 1: got this outbirds looking at Belgient.
Speaker 2: Like, No, I must have fallen asleep on.
Speaker 1: That part that was last week's episode of You didn't.
Speaker 3: Watch of.
Speaker 2: Am, Like either I fell asleep or didn't see that.
Speaker 3: I watched the previews like you said.
Speaker 1: So she has this like outwork cry by herself.
Speaker 3: So I listen. I low key agree with you.
Speaker 1: My only issue is this, she clearly is not connected
Speaker 1: to any of us women. Shannon does not like Noela.
Speaker 1: I don't care what y'all say.
Speaker 2: She doesn't well, Shannon doesn't like anybody new.
Speaker 1: No new or younger, So that whole thing, like Shannon's
Speaker 1: my friend, please, So if Noel, If Noela does come back,
Speaker 1: I definitely think a new friend because I do agree
Speaker 1: with you. She's fun, she's wild, and I think she's producible,
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that she can have a clean slate.
Speaker 3: Noela, if you're listening. Stop studying the housewives.
Speaker 1: This is not a test to pass the bar exam. Like, like,
Speaker 1: y'all attention new housewives want to be come on with it.
Speaker 1: You do not have to study every single show to
Speaker 1: become something great. And that's why you girls aren't winning.
Speaker 1: Like these new Housewives aren't great because they really study
Speaker 1: the show and they come on too strong, too soon.
Speaker 1: And we'll get into that when we recap Atlanta Housewives
Speaker 1: because I'm just not into new women trying.
Speaker 3: To be that girl.
Speaker 1: Because the blueprint when it comes to the ogs and
Speaker 1: the newer ladies, even Kenya who came in season five
Speaker 1: and Portia who came in season five, they came in
Speaker 1: as themselves. And I want more women to come on
Speaker 1: like Kenya and Portia and.
Speaker 3: Just be you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before I let you go, Jazz, I got a
Speaker 1: surprise for you.
Speaker 3: So we're talking.
Speaker 1: About the OC Housewives and my next guest coming up
Speaker 1: is none other than tamar Judge.
Speaker 2: Wow, so exciting.
Speaker 4: I am so shocked and surprised that you interviewed Tamra
Speaker 4: even though I was there. But no, that's that I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, yes, you're hearing the first right, go start
Speaker 4: hearing out the reality with the King is becoming like
Speaker 4: the home of the exclusive.
Speaker 2: So talk about exclusive.
Speaker 4: That Tamra interview is so good, like Tamar's so naturally
Speaker 4: funny and just with the shits too, like loved it.
Speaker 4: I can't wait for the listeners to hear that.
Speaker 1: No, So the Tamra Judge interview was so good. The
Speaker 1: beauty of this podcast is it doesn't feel like an
Speaker 1: interview if it's more like a conversation. And I've never
Speaker 1: met Tamra in real life, never met her, couldn't tell
Speaker 1: you met her for the first time on the podcast.
Speaker 1: And when I say to you, she and I have
Speaker 1: a great time. We exchanged phone numbers. I I didn't
Speaker 1: tell you this, Jasmine. I talked to Tamar almost every
Speaker 1: day now.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that thought.
Speaker 4: I would say, I wouldn't have been able to tell
Speaker 4: that you guys had never met, like if you didn't
Speaker 4: tell me, I would think that you guys had known
Speaker 4: each other for a really long time. Like I said,
Speaker 4: that's the gift that you have of like making anybody
Speaker 4: feel like they're your best friend instantly. But I also
Speaker 4: think Tamra has that as well as she, Like I said,
Speaker 4: she was so chill and just very personal, personable, and
Speaker 4: it was a really good parent, Yes, a really good parent.
Speaker 4: I would like to see you guys talk again.
Speaker 1: And we will when she gets asked back to come
Speaker 1: on the OC Housewives, because I said to her in
Speaker 1: our conversation that I think she's going to come back,
Speaker 1: and you guys have to listen to the next episode
Speaker 1: to see if she agrees with me. Yeah, so, Jasmin,
Speaker 1: thank you for taking time out of your.
Speaker 3: Very busy schedule. Blackgir Mad my pleasure all around. This
Speaker 3: was fun and listen.
Speaker 1: I think we should do this more often.
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, thank you, Jaz love you, says.
Speaker 2: I love you. Thank you so much.
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