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Speaker 1: return right to this current season of the Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: of Orange County a flop. Stay tuned, we'll get into

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Speaker 1: my conversation right after these quick ads. Welcome to Reality

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Speaker 1: with the King. It's me Carlos King, the King of

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Speaker 1: Reality TV and one of the most sought after executive

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Speaker 1: I'm executive produced top rated programs such as eight seasons

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Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Additionally, I have created

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Speaker 1: shows such as Netflix's Styling Hollywood Owns, number one rated

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. So

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Speaker 1: today's episode is going to be a doozy because we

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Speaker 1: are going to talk about a very interesting topic that

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Speaker 1: you guys have asked me on Twitter. And one thing

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Speaker 1: about me, you know that I'm all about answering questions

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Speaker 1: that you ask me within reason that I feel like

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Speaker 1: But I could not do this by myself. So we're

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Speaker 1: joined by my favorite guests so far.

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Speaker 2: Stop us.

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Speaker 1: She is the executive producer at Morsauce. She just so

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Speaker 1: happens to be the executive producer of Reality with the King, Yes,

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Speaker 1: my podcast.

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Speaker 3: Come on, girl, we're talking.

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Speaker 1: About Jasmine Henley Brown that Hey Das Holls.

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Speaker 2: Ago in Carlos.

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Speaker 4: I like, it's so fun talking to you behind the

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Speaker 1: Yes, now listen, Me and Jazz have the key key.

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Speaker 1: So if you have been a listener of the podcast,

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Speaker 1: say yes to the mess honey, Yes, it's because when

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Speaker 1: I met Jazzmin, it was like, this is my homegirl

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Speaker 2: We have an age difference.

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Speaker 3: You see what I love, Moddy, You see why I

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Speaker 1: Now look, honey, we may have a different age difference,

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Speaker 4: So listen, just saying an age difference, and I'm much younger.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, no, honey, I'm the grand Dome of reality TV.

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Speaker 1: So but no, I could not find a more perfect

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Speaker 1: person to have this conversation with. So today's topic is,

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Speaker 1: was Heather Debro's return on the Real Housewives of.

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Speaker 3: Orange County a flop? So?

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Speaker 1: Look, before Jazz and I answer that question, I want

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Speaker 1: to preface it with this. I'm not asking if Heather

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Speaker 1: Debre as a person is a flop, because this podcast

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Speaker 1: it's not mean spirited. So it's not whether or not

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Speaker 1: Heather Debro as a human being.

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Speaker 1: The question is, was Heather Debrell's return right to this

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Speaker 1: current season of the Real Housewives of Orange County a flop?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 4: I don't think like I will never personally I've never

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Speaker 4: flopp Piana, flop, Pianna, oh, the whole goddamn cast, but missed.

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Speaker 4: They brought her back to be Look, they brought her

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Speaker 4: How about you?

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Speaker 1: Everything you said, sis, I have to co sign on

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Speaker 2: Sin filled and delivered.

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Speaker 3: I'm yours. Let's come on, Stevie Weather.

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Speaker 1: I agree that Heather Debre's return is a flop. And

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Speaker 1: I agree with everything Jasmine said. I was not a

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Speaker 4: Whatever, be friends in real life Gina and Heather. None

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Speaker 1: No, So jazz Man, I could not agree with you more.

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Speaker 3: So miss me with this labor both from New York

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Speaker 4: Girl bye, sweetie. Oprah and I are both from Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: She's not coming to my home helping me with my wardrobe.

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Speaker 4: I would welcome it, like Oprah, You're one hundred percent welcome,

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Speaker 4: it's not realistic that I'll have a friend like Oprah.

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Speaker 4: That's what Gina, Gina, Heather was giving me back, So

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Speaker 1: Oh no, absolutely, And listen, the problem is this, so

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Speaker 1: So I tweeted how much I enjoyed the first episode

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Speaker 3: And then when Gina spilled the tea.

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Speaker 4: me neither.

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Speaker 2: She's trying. She's trying very very hard.

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Speaker 1: Right, There's a difference between being thirsty and dehydrated and

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Speaker 1: to be thirsty. And when I say thirsty, sure that

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Speaker 1: That to me is thirsty. So I love thirsty. Dehydrated

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Speaker 3: All good when you are on life support.

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Speaker 1: It's when you are so over the top you are

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Speaker 1: with them Charter, you aren't real. There is nothing real

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Speaker 1: about Noela, and no I think she's gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful gowns, beautiful gowns, gorgeous gowns like no so pretty,

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Speaker 3: Not at all.

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Speaker 1: You sis, so I feel bad for your situation. It's

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Speaker 1: Huntspelle Enough said, if your man ain't coming home, he's

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Speaker 4: Honey, listen, somebody else was up in that apartment, and

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Speaker 3: And that's why it's hard for me to connect with Gina.

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Speaker 4: The whole way that Gina's story line played out with

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Speaker 3: Girl, that is not girl Amazon. Before production started, right.

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Speaker 2: That's that's when I think I seen him, I.

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Speaker 4: Think, But yeah, it's given y'all were already broken up,

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Speaker 2: But I know we're not.

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Speaker 4: I could go on a deep dive about these ladies,

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Speaker 4: but I know we're talking about fancy fancy flop, not

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Speaker 1: Bob Damn Jazz, tell how you really feel, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Says but you know what, Heather is a level of

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Speaker 4: give her that. I will give her.

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Speaker 3: That, all that, all that.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I enjoyed Heather in the midst of Tamra Vicky

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Speaker 3: Like I enjoyed that, right MK, I enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: When listen, when I'm casting for a reality show, a

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Speaker 1: OC did not have it. Heather Debro is not that girl.

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Speaker 2: That's where it belongs.

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Speaker 4: It is a whole heap of just everything's I go

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Speaker 4: in the words Tamma said that shit so and I agree.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's hard to watch like they, like I said,

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Speaker 4: they don't have that queen Bee, that force multiplier. They

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Speaker 4: Because I don't think that the OC is a lost cause.

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Speaker 4: Like now, I wouldn't say matriarch because I don't think

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Speaker 4: Niini was was like the mother. I think Niini had

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Speaker 2: So that's what was.

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Speaker 4: Able to bring everybody together for you know, that particular franchise,

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Speaker 2: But she no mother's going to open the door and

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Speaker 3: You don't bitch.

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Speaker 2: Your mother is not gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, your father was raised on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the tracks.

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Speaker 3: You would. We'll be right back. Have some quick ass.

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Speaker 3: This is reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: I love getting in the t from me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, when I was the executive producer of Atlanta Housewives,

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Speaker 1: Nimi League did not come back at the top of

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Speaker 1: season eight, And I remember a moment I was filming

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Speaker 1: season eight of Atlanta Housewives and I was talking to

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Speaker 1: and I said, they don't have a queen be So

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Speaker 1: to your point, Nini is not the mother, but as

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Speaker 1: somebody who's worked on Atlanta Housewives and worked with Nini

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Speaker 1: when she was on for those years, Nini had this

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Speaker 1: your point, they did want to be friends with her

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Speaker 1: because Nini's a good time, and Nimi definitely knew how

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Speaker 1: let's go now. If you were on Nini's bad side,

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Speaker 1: then yes, the doorba gets slammed in your face at

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Speaker 1: the Intercontinental Hotel Honey in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 3: So the OC needed that.

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Speaker 1: And what's sad is that person was Vicky and even Tamra.

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Speaker 1: And when you lose two force multipliers at the same

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Speaker 1: damn time and you replace them with one person who

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Speaker 1: isn't the most likable person in the world.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's not gonna work. No, it's not. Would

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Speaker 4: Vicky and Tamar aren't exactly likable either, right, Like I

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Speaker 4: they like, Vicki is not a likable person. You know,

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Speaker 4: people talk a lot of shit about Tamra. For what

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Speaker 4: it's worth, I one hundred percent enjoy watching Tamra on

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Speaker 4: she's actually a very pleasant person. Right, But they did something,

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Speaker 2: It's so funny, is so over the top, like she

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Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm in the number of people that I

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Speaker 4: would pay money for a Vicky comeback on the OC

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Speaker 4: I would pay, I would. I would spend all the money.

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Speaker 3: In my bank account not to pay per views.

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Speaker 2: Yes, listen, yeah, you spend all this EP money on

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Speaker 2: seeing Vicky again. That's how important, that's how good she

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Speaker 3: I have to agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think the only way to salvage the Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: of Borge County you need Vicky and Tamra back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Tamra.

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Speaker 4: Tamarra as well, because Tamra was so messy, Like Tamra

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Speaker 4: is the type of messy that I'm like, oh, bitch,

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Speaker 4: you should not have but I'm so glass.

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Speaker 1: Yes, remember she tried to get Gretchen like white girl wasted.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, MESSI oh my gosh. I feel like

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Speaker 4: she added some color to that, like, you know, one

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Speaker 4: the whole iconic did you go to Beth Lake?

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Speaker 3: Tamar is right.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Tamra is the messy messenger.

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Speaker 1: She's the bone collector. She's the villain at time, she's

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Speaker 3: Tamra was really that girl.

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Speaker 2: She she was.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, when we talk about well, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say that, I was gonna say I

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Speaker 4: feel like she isn't talked about enough, but she is.

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Speaker 2: I feel like people give her just due.

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Speaker 4: Like if you had an honorable mention for your greatest

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Speaker 4: housewives of all time, I would say Tamra should tamor

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Speaker 1: And it's funny. My top ten greatest Housewife's list was definitely,

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Speaker 1: sure I got it right, and thankfully ninety eight percent

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Speaker 1: which is good.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with that right.

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Speaker 1: But what people don't know is Tamra was definitely number

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Speaker 1: eleven on my list.

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Speaker 4: That's great to know. I also want to people ninety

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Speaker 2: A lot of people were.

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Speaker 4: Like Kim Danielle, No, those were those were the ones

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Speaker 4: that people were like, really that one too. But I

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Speaker 4: to hate Jaselle. But people, I feel like they were

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Speaker 4: genuinely confused, like Kim and Danielle like really bitch. But

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Speaker 4: I'll give you that. Definitely agree with your to.

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Speaker 3: This is what it was.

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Speaker 1: Though, too people those people who were like really bitch,

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Speaker 1: My audience said, no, you have to listen to this

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Speaker 1: guy break it down. And once you listen to his

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Speaker 4: Oh, let me ask you a question, going back to

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Speaker 4: the beautiful enriched Heatherdubro, who you know brought us here today.

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Speaker 4: Where does she rank out of one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 4: nine housewives? For me, She's I'm gonna say one thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say one thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm gonna say there have there have been there

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Speaker 2: have been worse, my friend.

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Speaker 3: I guess thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, child, yes, and listen. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, Linda, Linda, listen, listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: Heather Debro should return next season only if Vickie, Tamra

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Speaker 1: Shannon are back.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. So that's my opinion. That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my opinion.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this jazz.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Real Housewives of Orange County, similar

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Speaker 1: to New York, should be split into two shows where

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Speaker 1: there's the Real Housewives of Orange County Legacy and then

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Speaker 4: It would depend on the reasoning for the split, because

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Speaker 4: with New York they split in and they said they

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Speaker 4: wanted to show this multicultural cast. There's not a multicultural

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Speaker 4: cast in the OLC. Let's be very clear about this

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Speaker 4: at all.

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Speaker 2: Let's be very clear.

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Speaker 4: Like they got their first black housewife in Noela, you know,

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Speaker 4: and it's took taken how many, like fifteen seasons for

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Speaker 4: just you know what we know about the OLC, a

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Speaker 4: it up, it will look like they're just splitting it

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Speaker 4: up so that they could have a younger batch of

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Speaker 4: OC housewives and then still keep you know, the older goals,

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Speaker 4: the seasoned goals women women hate to be called the

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Speaker 4: older ones, but the more seasoned gals what I watch it?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, But do I think it's needed. No, Because I

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Speaker 4: don't think their issue is like the entire cast, like

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Speaker 4: you said, they have very good ensemble, castmates and cast members.

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Speaker 4: They just need that Vicki, that camera to come in

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Speaker 4: and just really be like the glue. But yeah, if

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Speaker 4: they came, if they split it. Listen, one, I told

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Speaker 4: you this one thing about me. I'm gonna watch the Housewives,

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Speaker 4: so you can give me as many spin offs unless

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Speaker 4: it's Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna watch that, guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get her to get into Salt Lake

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Speaker 1: City because I said to her, I understood in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: because I didn't watch all the season one, but baby,

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Speaker 1: season two, the moment Jen got arrested until the finale,

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Speaker 1: not the reunion until the season finale was excellent television.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we we can. We can.

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Speaker 4: Next time I visit you, let's sit down and watch

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Speaker 4: it as a family. Because I couldn't get into it.

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Speaker 4: I got a couple episodes, could not get into it.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, Yeah, I'm gonna watch the Housewives, regardless of

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Speaker 4: if it's with the OLC Gray. If next season they

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Speaker 4: come back and you know it's still boring in another flop,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it a little and then complain to

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Speaker 4: you and anybody else I will listen that it's a flop,

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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna always watch.

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Speaker 2: At least a couple of I hate watch.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, So in my opinion, I would like to

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Speaker 1: see Vickie and Tama return next season.

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Speaker 3: Heather can stay.

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Speaker 1: See Heather, we don't think you're bad, so I want

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Speaker 1: you to come back.

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Speaker 3: I want you to come back.

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Speaker 1: So I think you fit a mongst the ensemble. So Shannon, Bickie, Tamara, Heather,

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Speaker 1: and give me two new women. I feel bad for

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Speaker 1: saying this, but I gotta be honest. I'm over Gina, Emily,

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Speaker 1: doctor Jen and Noela.

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Speaker 3: I think, I think ye.

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Speaker 1: I think it's time to sell them off into the

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Speaker 1: OC waters and.

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Speaker 2: Go on vacation.

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Speaker 4: I okay, I would actually if Noela came back with

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Speaker 4: the cast that you just named and maybe like another

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Speaker 4: new person, I wouldn't hate that because, like I said, Noela,

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Speaker 4: like you caught you said, Noela is on life support,

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Speaker 4: just like beyond thirsty to be on TV. If she

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Speaker 4: can mellow that out a little bit, I think she

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Speaker 4: can give some good television. Because what I do think

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Speaker 4: is that she's open minded enough to be like wild

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Speaker 4: on TV and to like really give us kind of

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Speaker 4: like what camera used to get like in the pool

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Speaker 4: with no clothes on, Like I feel like she could

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Speaker 4: be that type of like really fun, but she has

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Speaker 4: to get past this like trying to mimic everything that

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Speaker 4: she's studied.

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Speaker 1: She got the sex dungeon from Candy, she got she

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Speaker 1: got this outbirds looking at Belgient.

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Speaker 2: Like, No, I must have fallen asleep on.

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Speaker 1: That part that was last week's episode of You didn't.

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Speaker 3: Watch of.

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Speaker 2: Am, Like either I fell asleep or didn't see that.

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Speaker 3: I watched the previews like you said.

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Speaker 1: So she has this like outwork cry by herself.

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Speaker 3: So I listen. I low key agree with you.

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Speaker 1: My only issue is this, she clearly is not connected

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Speaker 1: to any of us women. Shannon does not like Noela.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what y'all say.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't well, Shannon doesn't like anybody new.

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Speaker 1: No new or younger, So that whole thing, like Shannon's

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Speaker 1: my friend, please, So if Noel, If Noela does come back,

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Speaker 1: I definitely think a new friend because I do agree

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Speaker 1: with you. She's fun, she's wild, and I think she's producible,

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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that she can have a clean slate.

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Speaker 3: Noela, if you're listening. Stop studying the housewives.

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Speaker 1: This is not a test to pass the bar exam. Like, like,

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Speaker 1: y'all attention new housewives want to be come on with it.

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Speaker 1: You do not have to study every single show to

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Speaker 1: become something great. And that's why you girls aren't winning.

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Speaker 1: Like these new Housewives aren't great because they really study

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Speaker 1: the show and they come on too strong, too soon.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get into that when we recap Atlanta Housewives

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Speaker 1: because I'm just not into new women trying.

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Speaker 3: To be that girl.

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Speaker 1: Because the blueprint when it comes to the ogs and

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Speaker 1: the newer ladies, even Kenya who came in season five

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Speaker 1: and Portia who came in season five, they came in

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Speaker 1: as themselves. And I want more women to come on

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Speaker 1: like Kenya and Portia and.

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Speaker 3: Just be you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before I let you go, Jazz, I got a

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Speaker 1: surprise for you.

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Speaker 3: So we're talking.

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Speaker 1: About the OC Housewives and my next guest coming up

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Speaker 1: is none other than tamar Judge.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so exciting.

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Speaker 4: I am so shocked and surprised that you interviewed Tamra

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Speaker 4: even though I was there. But no, that's that I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, yes, you're hearing the first right, go start

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Speaker 4: hearing out the reality with the King is becoming like

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Speaker 4: the home of the exclusive.

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Speaker 2: So talk about exclusive.

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Speaker 4: That Tamra interview is so good, like Tamar's so naturally

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Speaker 4: funny and just with the shits too, like loved it.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait for the listeners to hear that.

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Speaker 1: No, So the Tamra Judge interview was so good. The

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Speaker 1: beauty of this podcast is it doesn't feel like an

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Speaker 1: interview if it's more like a conversation. And I've never

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Speaker 1: met Tamra in real life, never met her, couldn't tell

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Speaker 1: you met her for the first time on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: And when I say to you, she and I have

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Speaker 1: a great time. We exchanged phone numbers. I I didn't

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Speaker 1: tell you this, Jasmine. I talked to Tamar almost every

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Speaker 1: day now.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that thought.

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Speaker 4: I would say, I wouldn't have been able to tell

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Speaker 4: that you guys had never met, like if you didn't

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Speaker 4: tell me, I would think that you guys had known

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Speaker 4: each other for a really long time. Like I said,

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Speaker 4: that's the gift that you have of like making anybody

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Speaker 4: feel like they're your best friend instantly. But I also

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Speaker 4: think Tamra has that as well as she, Like I said,

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Speaker 4: she was so chill and just very personal, personable, and

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Speaker 4: it was a really good parent, Yes, a really good parent.

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Speaker 4: I would like to see you guys talk again.

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Speaker 1: And we will when she gets asked back to come

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Speaker 1: on the OC Housewives, because I said to her in

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Speaker 1: our conversation that I think she's going to come back,

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Speaker 1: and you guys have to listen to the next episode

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Speaker 1: to see if she agrees with me. Yeah, so, Jasmin,

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking time out of your.

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Speaker 3: Very busy schedule. Blackgir Mad my pleasure all around. This

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Speaker 3: was fun and listen.

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Speaker 1: I think we should do this more often.

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Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, thank you, Jaz love you, says.

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Speaker 2: I love you. Thank you so much.

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