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Speaker 1: my homeboys here. The Night eight is currently on tour
Speaker 1: and James South that taking care of that badass Green
Speaker 1: Sunday is. So I'm here solo night, but I'm not
Speaker 1: by myself. I want my homeboy Uncle Beats. Beats was
Speaker 1: cracking with your big dog man and the streets like
Speaker 1: white lines on the corner. I can stop sign show
Speaker 1: the show. We were just together a few days ago
Speaker 1: over Cowboys Um over at Cowboys Spot, discussing that Nipsey
Speaker 1: Hustle trial and everything, and we could have been getting
Speaker 1: our interviewing in live in person that day, but we
Speaker 1: said and shopped up some other business with the homie.
Speaker 1: So it was cool. Yeah, actually wound up being pretty
Speaker 1: good man. So tell me man, you're originally from Shotjohn
Speaker 1: correct shoutdown to go down for show, for shore for show.
Speaker 1: When you man, you don't have, you don't have your hands,
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of different myths. Man, I have,
Speaker 1: I definitely have. I don't know from me from the beginning.
Speaker 1: It's just no God be having the will and he
Speaker 1: just see you the way seeing, you know. So I was,
Speaker 1: I was around some some made me start wrapping and
Speaker 1: that just really opened up out of doors for other
Speaker 1: stuff from me, brother stuff. So you know what, We're
Speaker 1: gonna go to the streets first though your hand. A
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff. You know we're gonna get into.
Speaker 1: If you don't mind, you're cool with that, Oh, not
Speaker 1: a problem. I'm open book, no man. At one time, man,
Speaker 1: you was knee deep in the d game. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. Man. Well you know, um that was back
Speaker 1: in the day when I was a shorty. Yeah. My
Speaker 1: cousin she en't up getting signed to a recoll label.
Speaker 1: That was a cousin h did and she got signed
Speaker 1: to Recollection. What it was owned. I I want to
Speaker 1: know is every Hoover called Ghett open in the record.
Speaker 1: She was the only artist that they ever had on
Speaker 1: the record label too. So once she did that, now
Speaker 1: maybe to be around raffles out in the bushwood deals
Speaker 1: and different stuff. And you know, he took a liking
Speaker 1: to me. And now I mean the music if I'm
Speaker 1: moving around with them and at all her shows, and
Speaker 1: that's when I said, man, I could do this. And
Speaker 1: then I just sink though background of it. But I
Speaker 1: was on the street doing my things, So the music
Speaker 1: had to sit to the side because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I'm from Ankle Woods, Chicago. Yetta look
Speaker 1: that up. And you know, I just got into the money.
Speaker 1: Now that fair case I called that was later on,
Speaker 1: but you know they was late. Man I was. I
Speaker 1: was done. I was done with the game. But as
Speaker 1: I said, that's I usually happened, because that's like I
Speaker 1: said before, I ain't with some dangerous dudes. You know.
Speaker 1: So my family is my family and my friends and
Speaker 1: my friends. So you know, they that the faiths really
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that I was out here legit making money
Speaker 1: and I'm doing all the money videos on YouTube and
Speaker 1: Facebook when people weren't really doing that. So it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they gotta they gotta be illegal. But every every dollar
Speaker 1: I had had a paper trail to us. So it's
Speaker 1: like I wasn't worried about it, but they definitely indicted
Speaker 1: us and took this down. My cousin about to come
Speaker 1: home right now. We're working on we're working on that
Speaker 1: right now. It is looking really good for my cousin,
Speaker 1: Morte Anderson. But yeah, man, people say it can't be done.
Speaker 1: I beat the FIDS, you know, and I ain't have
Speaker 1: to snitch. I have to do none of that, you know.
Speaker 1: And I was facing life. Let's talk about that a
Speaker 1: little bit. Now. What was the fair? It was conspiracy.
Speaker 1: It was a hair run ever see, so they said
Speaker 1: we moved like a thousand kids. And when I when
Speaker 1: I say I beat bodies, I mean that they said
Speaker 1: people O d off of hair run that we're supposed
Speaker 1: to have the plot, you know. So they indicted us. Man.
Speaker 1: I I didn't been on my son and dad, my
Speaker 1: mom dad. I was in a coma from COVID and
Speaker 1: that FED case was the worst thing that ever happened
Speaker 1: to me. Man. I can honestly say that it's like
Speaker 1: nothing worse than being locked up when't you know you anything,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's got to be crazy now with
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand about especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to um, that's one of narcotics that if somebody
Speaker 1: that's narcotics perience, if somebody happens to die off your product,
Speaker 1: you are going down for murder. You're going down for murder,
Speaker 1: You're going down for drug induced homicids. So that's crazy.
Speaker 1: So obviously you here speaking to us, how did you
Speaker 1: get out of that? Well, you know, of course I'm
Speaker 1: in jail. Listen to everybody saying nobody beats the FIDS.
Speaker 1: Nobody beats the FIDS, And you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I can't lie. I just put it
Speaker 1: in my MoMA and my sister hands. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm finish it in here and be the best. Uh.
Speaker 1: If I'm going to the drawing, be the best criminal.
Speaker 1: It is like the whole neighborhood and the fans anyway,
Speaker 1: So I'm like that's what I was going with. So
Speaker 1: once they started coming first they offered me twenty years.
Speaker 1: I didn't take that. They dropped down. The team didn't
Speaker 1: take that. So now my sister and my mom like,
Speaker 1: they dropping the case, must speak with on you. So
Speaker 1: now they come down to seven, I wanna take that.
Speaker 1: They come down to five, I want to take that
Speaker 1: they offered me um so drug class. I never did
Speaker 1: drugs in my life, so I want to take that.
Speaker 1: They're offered me probation. So I called home and say,
Speaker 1: oh no, no no, y'all hear about this probation thing. And
Speaker 1: my sister's like, man, I want to take a none
Speaker 1: of that. What kind of do it is? You? Man?
Speaker 1: You can't stay at jail for the time and fight
Speaker 1: this case. And I'm just cracking up, like ye has
Speaker 1: something else? So uh, man, I want all the way,
Speaker 1: I even take probation, and they had to dismiss it,
Speaker 1: and I can't take all the credit. My my code
Speaker 1: ds sold out saying, hey, why do y'all have beats?
Speaker 1: You know music can't get nothing to do with this,
Speaker 1: and you know that just ate them up. So when
Speaker 1: people be like nobody can beat the fans, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I had I had a great lawyer with this, then
Speaker 1: a day, Yeah you had a great lawyer. Not to
Speaker 1: cut you off. You had a great lawyer, and you
Speaker 1: had great crimes because they kept one. Usually people don't
Speaker 1: do that. If you were in there with them, they
Speaker 1: want to keep you in there with them. It's pretty
Speaker 1: and to me, that's worse than a snitch for you
Speaker 1: to let somebody sit in jail. And you know they
Speaker 1: didn't have nothing to do with what you had to do.
Speaker 1: You know, my cousin, my cousin monte Ak Banger, he
Speaker 1: was already in the joint. He said, they came and
Speaker 1: got him from the state Joint, said yeah, we got beats,
Speaker 1: we got DeAndre, we got walked. They showing him everybody
Speaker 1: we got and he said all I can say, well,
Speaker 1: of course somebody want to call me. Yeah, he got um.
Speaker 1: They came to the state joint to get my cousin
Speaker 1: and he said, we got beats, we got dathy. I
Speaker 1: just had to tell us that stuff calling me. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they go to the joint to my cousin was
Speaker 1: in the state joint already. They go to get him
Speaker 1: and they tell him we got beats, we got we
Speaker 1: got a good club, we got walked. And he tell um, well,
Speaker 1: what you got beat for? You got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with this. I'm the one that sails dope. Y'all see
Speaker 1: where y'all coming to get me from. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think they expected him to say that. I
Speaker 1: think they thought he was gonna do anything to save
Speaker 1: itself but you know, we're not built like that. So
Speaker 1: I literally set in jail six months because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell them people nothing. I want to say nothing. So
Speaker 1: my lawyer like, uh, hey, if um, if you are
Speaker 1: talk to these people, they're willing to let you out
Speaker 1: on bond. Man, I ain't talking to him. They say, no,
Speaker 1: they just want you to say you didn't know nothing,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what they did that in a second.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, I'm not talking to him. So
Speaker 1: now was going to court and me and my cousin
Speaker 1: is talking through the sales and he's like, man, you
Speaker 1: know I thought you were smart, but you might be
Speaker 1: the dumbest dude did I ever? Man, I say what
Speaker 1: you're saying. He said, All they want you to do
Speaker 1: is say you didn't know we were selling drugs and
Speaker 1: you can go home that man, are you nuts? And
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, I'm like, man, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell y'all up with enough. How are you gonna
Speaker 1: tell us up there you don't know nothing? Now, the
Speaker 1: reason they did that, the reason they wanted me to
Speaker 1: do that because they really got caught in the facade
Speaker 1: of seeing me with the cars, the money and the
Speaker 1: different stuff because I'm promoting the rap. So they snatched
Speaker 1: me up and they find out I'm a hundred percent legit.
Speaker 1: So when that one when when I um, when they
Speaker 1: dismissed my case, they made me sign that I want
Speaker 1: to sue them for mother this is prosecution. They wanted
Speaker 1: me to say. I don't want to be say like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're my cousins. They was hanging with me, doing security,
Speaker 1: happing with the label whatever. They just wanted to say
Speaker 1: that they didn't just pick me up for no reason.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that they're good like to
Speaker 1: them that I was the head of the drug organization
Speaker 1: and you know that's that's how I beat the case.
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. And then um, so when you got out,
Speaker 1: you jumped straight back into the music. But it's correct. Well,
Speaker 1: I actually I was more behind the scenes. At first.
Speaker 1: I had a partner who I had no paperwork on him,
Speaker 1: so I can't say. But when we got the fair case,
Speaker 1: he just disappeared and I'm like, hey, ain't nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. I ain't mad at him. But then when
Speaker 1: I got out, you'll never got in touch with him.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what is this dude? Doing like this
Speaker 1: is what we've been building. So you know, everybody said
Speaker 1: he was working. But then after that, man, I just
Speaker 1: I just really got to it. Um project patting Delhi
Speaker 1: Daddy doesn't really showed me how to get to it,
Speaker 1: and I just really got to it. Yeah. I want
Speaker 1: to say something real quick, shout out to the whole
Speaker 1: three six mafia. You know, I do a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff with a lot of people, man, but y'all showed
Speaker 1: me all so much's hospitality man for Frenchy, black Man,
Speaker 1: the gangs to boot just everybody else. I wish I
Speaker 1: would have went to the first is yeah, because you
Speaker 1: know you was good if you want. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's when that C word. I don't like saying no here,
Speaker 1: but that's when that T word was stick around and everything.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't trying to go catch it again. I
Speaker 1: ain't mad at you. I wasn't trying to go catch
Speaker 1: it again. But you was. You do a lot of
Speaker 1: work with them, right Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, uh definitely
Speaker 1: proct pat I kind of I had to slow down
Speaker 1: with Crunchy though. Man, what's going on with Crunchy? That's
Speaker 1: the homie man, He's crazy, is all get out. But
Speaker 1: that's the homie. Though. What was having with crunch I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I had I had to stop dealing
Speaker 1: with him man because he was I mean, hey, when
Speaker 1: you don't want to pay me, I can't work with you. Man.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just that simple, you know. Good guy. Though.
Speaker 1: If I wanted to do a versus one of my
Speaker 1: friends or whatever, you'll do it. Interviews, He'll do it.
Speaker 1: But when it comes time to pay me. You think
Speaker 1: what I do when work no money, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you can't be coming, man, We're splitty. Then when it's
Speaker 1: time to pay, when the money come, I gotta hear
Speaker 1: these stories, you know. And it ain't even like it
Speaker 1: was a bunch of money. It was just the principle,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, I'm gonna have to let
Speaker 1: you do your thing. Man. I feel with that man,
Speaker 1: But you kept the relationship to step upen with him? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well you know I can't. I came running through a
Speaker 1: project path, so you know, I was with Juicy. He
Speaker 1: had a show bu team weekend. I was out there
Speaker 1: with Juice B. It's like they weren't even messing with
Speaker 1: Crunchy when I started messing with him. Then once I
Speaker 1: started messing with Crunchy, that's when they started messing with Crunchy.
Speaker 1: And so you know I wasn't the best. I just
Speaker 1: can't deal. Well, let me ask you this, man, because
Speaker 1: three six Mafia is actually one of my favorite groups.
Speaker 1: Man Proops always had wicked projunction. Man always just had
Speaker 1: some real ground breaking music. Working with people like them
Speaker 1: got to be aheaded because this seems like them dudes
Speaker 1: are in seventh party mode all the time. However, just
Speaker 1: how their music sound, that's how most how they're living
Speaker 1: life to extreme right. Uh. I just say Crunchy is
Speaker 1: that you don't have a good I can't take that
Speaker 1: away from Clunty, Juicy and Paul. I ain't never seen
Speaker 1: nothing but the business side of them all day. A
Speaker 1: Project Pat's just a real O. G what Pat is
Speaker 1: out there? And I know Pat Love of West Coast.
Speaker 1: I ain't got to catch up with him yet, but
Speaker 1: I know you Love without Project back. You see, I'm
Speaker 1: only with your Uncle Beats man. I need that interview though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, y'all here here first of
Speaker 1: my man Uncle Beat say he gonna make it happen.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, things like my connect back
Speaker 1: to the Midwest and to the South. He did the
Speaker 1: most powerful dudes down there. Okay, wee, we'll make that happen,
Speaker 1: you know that. Help Now, I have to say I
Speaker 1: got of wrappers ideal with straight business. But when it
Speaker 1: comes to Kelly Pitts on the West coast from the
Speaker 1: Cartail you, I'm fraud Pat damn my brothers man, it
Speaker 1: just ain't no, it ain't no way around it. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like we check on each other and we don't
Speaker 1: even be talking about no music stuff like That's that's
Speaker 1: real family right there. Yeah, speaking of Central Cartail and
Speaker 1: the homies right there, y'all gonna be seeing them on
Speaker 1: here again real soon. There's some good cats, man. They
Speaker 1: don't down and they don't get the recognition they deserved sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about that? Like I was just
Speaker 1: looking at when I was at in l A. When
Speaker 1: I'm at the Wars, I'm like, everybody is wearing their
Speaker 1: hair night cowth Central Cartiag is the way they here,
Speaker 1: Like all the guys got to the single braises though,
Speaker 1: Like wow, they started that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like like you say, they don't they don't get
Speaker 1: the recognition. Yeah, they don't know some the recognition. So
Speaker 1: you got some recognition to one another way, man, you wrong,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Everybody remembers Jerry Springer and Steve Wilkos
Speaker 1: and all that was cracking on there where they just
Speaker 1: had the baby Daddy. They was exposing baby Daddy's back
Speaker 1: in the day, like like forty going North. How did
Speaker 1: you wind up on that show? Man? Well, I ended
Speaker 1: up on Steve Wilkos. I'm I'm glad you've brought that
Speaker 1: up because I'd like to speak on that any chance
Speaker 1: I get now, I brought that up. I ended up
Speaker 1: on Steve Wilkos because, uh, lady name Alexas Scott came
Speaker 1: up missing. This is two weeks after she came out
Speaker 1: to Vegas to a birthday party, I mean a bachelor
Speaker 1: party that one of my people was having with a stripper.
Speaker 1: The scripper said, hey, I want to bring one of
Speaker 1: my homies, like you can bring that, I I don't care.
Speaker 1: So the bachelor party end up getting canceled because dude,
Speaker 1: you bring this his fiance and her brad'smaids over to
Speaker 1: the house. We have an a basket party. My man,
Speaker 1: you ain't having a basket party. So they end up
Speaker 1: really just coming out there to hang out because it
Speaker 1: got shut now so they weren't kicking it with some
Speaker 1: dudes and one of the and that's left with one
Speaker 1: of the dudes don't want to Sacramento. Her buddy called buddy,
Speaker 1: hit me that man, come pick me up. I don't
Speaker 1: know where Vexas went. So later that day she hit
Speaker 1: her up and said, yeah, I wanted to Sacramento. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish you ratter figure something out because
Speaker 1: I'm going to um Costa Rica when I get back
Speaker 1: to Chicago. I'm not feeling miss my plane for her, Like,
Speaker 1: that's pretty far the way she even went through. That's
Speaker 1: like being in Chicago and somebody, oh, I'm in Memphis,
Speaker 1: come pick me up. I'm like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You better figure that out. So she end up having
Speaker 1: a terrible experience when she was down there and Sacramento
Speaker 1: dude trying to pamper out of whatever it was. But
Speaker 1: she came back home. But then when she came up
Speaker 1: missing from a house in Peoria, Illinois to what I
Speaker 1: was outside of Chicago, some kind of way they're telling
Speaker 1: the lady Mama that I had something to do with it,
Speaker 1: that I had got her kidnapped because some money came
Speaker 1: up missing when she was in Vegas. Five daughters, Like
Speaker 1: none of this makes sense, but the police taught me
Speaker 1: about this, and you know, this is one time I
Speaker 1: want to talk to the police without a go a. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know not because I was just so I was
Speaker 1: so appalled that somebody would even put me in this,
Speaker 1: you know, So I think they thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: come down there and was like, yeah, I'm acquired. Boy.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I hang with gangsters. But they ain't
Speaker 1: kidding that. No, broad like what y'all got me here? Fun?
Speaker 1: You know? So honestly I was It's funny how God works.
Speaker 1: God is amazing. I'm right with one of my female
Speaker 1: friends and I tell like, I'm really gonna have done
Speaker 1: everything in life? Did I set out to do? Plus more?
Speaker 1: I'd say the only thing because I don't like having
Speaker 1: to my kidnapped this girl on my name phone Ringers
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkos like instantly like that, and They're like her
Speaker 1: mom wants you to come on the show, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: no problem, Like how much you're paying me and we
Speaker 1: ain't paying people like, well, like I gotta pay me.
Speaker 1: So we worked that out. I went on the show.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm only gonna I'm gonna answer whatever questions
Speaker 1: the mama wants me to act, and I passed it.
Speaker 1: I passed the test. Offered to help them and pay
Speaker 1: for a private investigator or whatever they were trying to
Speaker 1: get one, not from you. Just test is wrong, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're the one who had me come on here.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear you come on here. I passed the
Speaker 1: test on that plot, but it's like never, like why
Speaker 1: would I Why would I kidnap a female? If don't
Speaker 1: make sense? But I'm not mad. So they asked you
Speaker 1: on National TV because that's a big show. Yeah, National TV,
Speaker 1: it's worldwide. You could have low key suit and you
Speaker 1: know when we could go to that clip real. Let's
Speaker 1: find that clip real quick, man, And I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: we gotta be online, right if you put up Uncle Beach,
Speaker 1: Steve Wilko's in the pop up. I'm about to pull
Speaker 1: this on here, y'all, We're about to see my man.
Speaker 1: He was asking you on there, So let me ask you.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. This man it's it really like
Speaker 1: it when you see it on TV. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was real. When I ain't gonna lie, they did
Speaker 1: asked me to go cursed out and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going to do that. You know
Speaker 1: they they tried to, so when she was coming at me,
Speaker 1: I kind of knew they told her to do that.
Speaker 1: Other than that, yeah, everything, Um, we're not fake about it,
Speaker 1: even even with the other people's stories. It was there
Speaker 1: when I was there at my faith, all right, for sure.
Speaker 1: We'd about to take it on me. I'll see you
Speaker 1: on there. Hold on, let me see something. You are
Speaker 1: a liar, my daughter from cold was she? Hold you
Speaker 1: had nothing to do nothing that time without kidding nobody, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with her come out, and
Speaker 1: I did a lot of stuff. But I'm not kidding that.
Speaker 1: Nobody's friend. You'll set my face part of me I
Speaker 1: thought a hundred because of the truth of Ball, who
Speaker 1: said nothing to me. You are a liar. You are Ball.
Speaker 1: You took my daughter. You know what. She couldn't get
Speaker 1: anything out there, she funny. She was getting for her
Speaker 1: crazy something. Why are you everybody I can drop take
Speaker 1: I want she was dropped the bad men very I
Speaker 1: don't even need her there, but she can't right to
Speaker 1: tell you, But I just like to she car yea
Speaker 1: me ticket at that town. She want to run on
Speaker 1: the show town some no one that's all right to
Speaker 1: talk to him well to bay one. I'm put some
Speaker 1: still down for you. Ain't crazy, Craig, I put the
Speaker 1: straight party. She short, craizy. I don't know. We got
Speaker 1: never talk about when we do have something about cla
Speaker 1: out crazy some other people. I got you a kid,
Speaker 1: I craise you. Yeah, you don't not in the man.
Speaker 1: My daughter sound Craig, and you tell me you bost
Speaker 1: I never got talking to I tell you call me
Speaker 1: really like a hell hard. I tell to hard, you
Speaker 1: call live well? Proof you got proof for note of this.
Speaker 1: The only reason I haven't lanced that you're on Facebook,
Speaker 1: that you people see you as a little you know
Speaker 1: people you want that you don't like to go with
Speaker 1: the girl ahead. You'll be jelling you ever thought about that?
Speaker 1: Nothing that day to you that you get involved with
Speaker 1: her daughter. Her daughter hit me up on Facebook trying
Speaker 1: to see what's up because I smelled good, look good,
Speaker 1: and I lived good and she wants to be on
Speaker 1: the money trying. She came at me at the studio
Speaker 1: one time. She had a little girl with her. It
Speaker 1: looked like she was at the age she put out
Speaker 1: an ad she still was funny. I said, I still
Speaker 1: don't want hm to do with her. I have got you.
Speaker 1: Another time she hit me up again. Tell me how
Speaker 1: she makes so much money being a prostitute, make three
Speaker 1: thousand a day. I said, why everybody should be a
Speaker 1: prost thee yeah, she said she and can I get
Speaker 1: a hotel? I say, hey, I don't do none of that.
Speaker 1: I just need dances to come on tour with us
Speaker 1: and sell merchandise. Do you want to do that? She
Speaker 1: said no? So I had no youth for How did
Speaker 1: you did you buy her a ticket to Vegas? The
Speaker 1: way I end up at her ticket. I booked a
Speaker 1: stripper to come to a basket party and she said,
Speaker 1: I want to bring my friend. So I said, well
Speaker 1: she could come if she buy her own ticket. I
Speaker 1: showed her MoMA in the whole world of inboxes, what
Speaker 1: I'm telling her to value your own ticket if you
Speaker 1: want to come. She said she don't have a debit card,
Speaker 1: and I told I would pay cash. I would pay
Speaker 1: for it, and you can give me the money when
Speaker 1: you get the Vegas. And did she give you the money?
Speaker 1: She didn't, she said something, did you? Yeah, they stayed
Speaker 1: at the crib that I had. I didn't even stay there.
Speaker 1: I was at a condo, but there was a bunch
Speaker 1: of people at the house. The next morning. One of
Speaker 1: the guys said somebody stole his five hundred dollars, which
Speaker 1: I figure was a guy because everybody was gambling and
Speaker 1: he probably just he landed on her. So I bought
Speaker 1: tickets for her and her friends and and nothing mentioned.
Speaker 1: I spent more the foun hundred dollars on the tickets.
Speaker 1: They didn't when it's time ago, because they went out
Speaker 1: that night and Alexis text her friend and said she's
Speaker 1: in Sacramento. I said, well, she got a problem because
Speaker 1: I got a places I gotta be on two there.
Speaker 1: I'm not staying in Vegas wait for no grown person
Speaker 1: to come back. So the girl was crying, They're gonna
Speaker 1: say that that's on you. The tickets can be changed.
Speaker 1: I'm going home and probably uh. A month later, I
Speaker 1: hear she comes up missing. When the police hit my
Speaker 1: line and I'm like, what are you talking about? With
Speaker 1: the question you about Well, now they called me or
Speaker 1: they called you, then I'm out. That's enough for that,
Speaker 1: right there. No, that had to be that had to
Speaker 1: be a crazy feeling man be on that show. Was
Speaker 1: that that he just got all up your face and everything,
Speaker 1: man like, like, how did you feel when you saw
Speaker 1: our moms? Um? I really was happy that. Um we
Speaker 1: was there in the test went on because I know
Speaker 1: I was gonna pass the test. So they gave you
Speaker 1: a tech your test. Yeah, they gave us a glad
Speaker 1: to text the test, and I was just hoping she
Speaker 1: was at me help her after I passed the test,
Speaker 1: and she didn't. You just now they called me the
Speaker 1: lady she had having a business for. She called me
Speaker 1: afterwards and was like, uh, yeah, were you still was
Speaker 1: going to help us and get the uh private investigator.
Speaker 1: I think they needed like ten thousands, And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that if she go and apologized
Speaker 1: to me on Facebook and stuff publicly, the same way
Speaker 1: to apologize to me, she was accusing you was amazing stuff, dog, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like stuff that you can go to jail for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like she could have got you locked up, dog, because
Speaker 1: first of all, you know you see somebody's mama and
Speaker 1: that he was in the real like crazy emotional stated
Speaker 1: but like, man, you know her daughter was missing. We
Speaker 1: just understandable. But she looked like she already had it
Speaker 1: made up in her mind that you had something to
Speaker 1: do with that. Yeah, and it's like before that I
Speaker 1: detect the test. People really was like they don't know
Speaker 1: if out it did it or not. So it's like
Speaker 1: to me, it was just it was just dangerous because yeah,
Speaker 1: like I told them police, I say, hey, man, yeah
Speaker 1: that like this lady say this stuff. I'm going to
Speaker 1: protect myself to the fullest of my capabilities if somebody
Speaker 1: run up on me and they out of order. And
Speaker 1: it's like because me, if somebody in my family came
Speaker 1: by missing, I couldn't see the person who's getting the cues,
Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't see the person who's getting the cue.
Speaker 1: And before the Steve Wilko stuff, I was at an
Speaker 1: l a feeling good. I'm on the rooftop, so I
Speaker 1: hadn't responded to none of this stuff that they were
Speaker 1: saying about me. So I do alive and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about it, and I'm just I'm a little graphic with it.
Speaker 1: And um, somebody in her family hit me up like,
Speaker 1: hey man, I don't know what's going on, but it
Speaker 1: just hurt to hear somebody talking about my family members
Speaker 1: like this. So everything I put up about it, I
Speaker 1: took it down, you know, because it's like I feel them.
Speaker 1: Yeah I could feel that too, But that lady was
Speaker 1: in the room. But I think where I thought her at.
Speaker 1: My biggest issue with her is that she didn't apologize
Speaker 1: to you once she found out the truth. When she
Speaker 1: found out the truth, she should have went up there,
Speaker 1: just like she publicly exiled you. She should have went
Speaker 1: up publicly and say, you know what I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I apologize to this man. Yeah, and that that never
Speaker 1: happened now. The person who worked for she did. But
Speaker 1: you you're not. You want the one on the TV,
Speaker 1: you're not. That's not because as quick as she went
Speaker 1: into a monitor, she should have came back to apologize
Speaker 1: to you in the same man. That's it. And I
Speaker 1: think people would have would have looked at I think
Speaker 1: because I think people look at her different for not
Speaker 1: apologize and about it. You know. So yeah, it was unbreasonable,
Speaker 1: But I definitely hope, I definitely hope they find her,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't think nobody did nothing to
Speaker 1: work us. It's been, like I want to say, since
Speaker 1: like en and that's six years, right, and I just
Speaker 1: can't the dude that they're accusing of kidnapping her and
Speaker 1: all that. I just can't see them being that capable
Speaker 1: to get rid of somebody's body and not get caught.
Speaker 1: I just can't see that. Yeah, that's crazy. So you know,
Speaker 1: just to go back, just to make sure I got
Speaker 1: clarity on everything. She was in Las Vegas with you,
Speaker 1: but it trailed off the Sacramento exactly. See once they
Speaker 1: do that, man, because that's that's a long way way, man,
Speaker 1: Sacramento is a long way from That's a long way.
Speaker 1: You know, they're both on the West, but that's ways
Speaker 1: a way. Though. Once her France told me she got
Speaker 1: what a ice came, dude was a long hair. I
Speaker 1: said she was pimp. And now that's that's never got
Speaker 1: her out. Once you say light skin do with along
Speaker 1: here just when you hear alone here from the Bay type,
Speaker 1: but from the Bay, I'm just like, well, man, you know,
Speaker 1: me being the father dog and having a daughter, I
Speaker 1: sincerely hope that she's alive and well, but more than
Speaker 1: likely she's up there on her own accord. Dog, She's
Speaker 1: up there because she wants to be there. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know that's that's what I think. So you know,
Speaker 1: I hope she uh come on home song. Now, how
Speaker 1: did that impact you in your life and everything? Because
Speaker 1: it's not like you know, when you're on the show
Speaker 1: like Steve will coos Man and What's the Other Cat?
Speaker 1: Maury Povich and all the mother dudes Back in the
Speaker 1: day they used to pretty much show those train wreck
Speaker 1: on TV. Why do you want to show like that? Dog?
Speaker 1: Is kind of hard to live your regular life, man,
Speaker 1: because you've become a public figure, so to speak. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: see one thing, I think that through the Lady Off.
Speaker 1: Around the same time, we had our girl Nankanica Jenkins
Speaker 1: in Chicago that they died in a freezer at the
Speaker 1: hotel party and there was a bunch of mystery around
Speaker 1: that too, and they were really dogging her friends out.
Speaker 1: So what I what I think they expected with people
Speaker 1: started coming saying, yeah, he pipped me out before and
Speaker 1: and and stuff like that, And I want to visit
Speaker 1: one of my one of my ex girlfriends in jail,
Speaker 1: and she was just looking at me like a diner here, like,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, man, what is this food doing? One
Speaker 1: called me and nothing no more. Yeah, I had to
Speaker 1: do like sixty days and stuffing like that. So when
Speaker 1: she gets out of jail, she's like, man, yeah, but
Speaker 1: but police came and see me and said you were
Speaker 1: scared to visit and to get you to talk about
Speaker 1: this Alexis case and all this stuff, and I'm like wow.
Speaker 1: So then it was like they were it was women
Speaker 1: who would say the police were pulling them over acting
Speaker 1: about me, get me, getting getting them to say that
Speaker 1: I pimped them and stuff like that. So you know,
Speaker 1: they were trying to get me on everything. And this
Speaker 1: is after I then beat the FED case already, So
Speaker 1: they really do a god to try and take a
Speaker 1: black brother down. So like right now, I just I
Speaker 1: just trying to stay on the straight in there on
Speaker 1: anybody that you will know. You know me, I tell
Speaker 1: you that man, he just do the do the music
Speaker 1: stuff and do real estate and stay out the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Now I gotta ask you this, man,
Speaker 1: because I'm from the Midwest though you know, I'm from Cleveland,
Speaker 1: all right, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago. Outside of you know the
Speaker 1: gangster stuff. Man, it's known for pimping, right, have you
Speaker 1: ever been involved in the game? And then in the
Speaker 1: confessed not the I was going to tell yourself, but well,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I was around the pimp them. But me
Speaker 1: what I did, well, I through script shows. Okay a
Speaker 1: through script shows. So like it was enough for me
Speaker 1: to have thirty dances come to the club and they
Speaker 1: all pay me the scrip and I'm charging at the door,
Speaker 1: Like that's what That's what I always been into. It's
Speaker 1: still going on to this day. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: still put the script show together. I even put a
Speaker 1: male script show together, so it doesn't matter. So it's like,
Speaker 1: but by me doing that, it got me the first
Speaker 1: signer of being a pimp, you know that that got
Speaker 1: that got people like, oh, beats the pimp you got there?
Speaker 1: So no, I never, really, I never. I just don't
Speaker 1: see how pimp have a good I to tell you
Speaker 1: the truth, because it's like I ain't dealing with the
Speaker 1: woman I got, so I have to deal with uh,
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of women women attitude that all the time.
Speaker 1: I just don't see how how pimper could win. But
Speaker 1: you know, shouts out to the visual. I was just
Speaker 1: with man at Tusimo when we was in um l
Speaker 1: A at the BT Awards. But no, man, but I've
Speaker 1: been around the Pampa. I gotta say, I hang around
Speaker 1: some dudes. I've been around some dudes. You know. Are
Speaker 1: you back at the creabile? You still like in l A.
Speaker 1: I know I'm in the shot. I just I just
Speaker 1: came back to the morning. You came back this morning, boy,
Speaker 1: you'd be moving around. Hey. Working. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: that uh m c A to Spice One. Got a
Speaker 1: concert tomorrow, so I'm gonna go up there and check
Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, shout out to my co ho. See,
Speaker 1: I told you all, I wouldn't line. I told y'all
Speaker 1: eight was on the road and I've actually gotta not
Speaker 1: got a bunch of episodes. We gotta record like probably
Speaker 1: like nine episodes next week though, because he's going, you know,
Speaker 1: the summertime and he's starting to go on his touring
Speaker 1: and stuff, and James out there with his grandkids. So
Speaker 1: I'm like the self mind sold to night. Man. You
Speaker 1: know what I need to do, though, Man, I need
Speaker 1: to connect with you man to come down to Chicago. Man,
Speaker 1: and do some stuff. Man, wet there any time, because
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a lot of ustoke untold
Speaker 1: stories you need to be told. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of us untold stories that need to be
Speaker 1: told because you know, all I do sometimes just look
Speaker 1: up people paperwork. That's one thing that I like about Facebook.
Speaker 1: People real names be out there. So if there's a
Speaker 1: guy who just what claimed to be something, I just
Speaker 1: always look him up. And it's it's a lot of
Speaker 1: it's a lot of third rold catch, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of questionable cast. But Chicago is the place to be.
Speaker 1: I know eight and I'm gonna have a good show.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was young and one very Roogle
Speaker 1: was throwing the concerts at eight came. I remember one time,
Speaker 1: you know, he was showing everybody up. He wasn't scared
Speaker 1: or nothing. And it's like when he was one of
Speaker 1: the biggest stars in the world too. So he is
Speaker 1: loved in Chicago, dog, you know Chicago, man, New York,
Speaker 1: in the Midwest, Man, they love eight out there, man,
Speaker 1: they love him. I was on the security and the
Speaker 1: DC head came this after he this after he had
Speaker 1: his accident and he was like, man, it's the last
Speaker 1: place I perform and eight let him rock the mic.
Speaker 1: You know, it was like that was legendary, man, that
Speaker 1: that was history. Yeah, for sure, he is very man.
Speaker 1: You know, like you said, a lot of people don't know.
Speaker 1: That's why we had the one cat come up with
Speaker 1: the man against you know what this ship. Man, they
Speaker 1: get messy marks. Sometimes you get people coming up. We
Speaker 1: just just any damn thing. And I know all people
Speaker 1: had to say eight name. I said, Man, did you
Speaker 1: know how much is we loved in Chicago? I stayed,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to clear that up. Now, them is definitely
Speaker 1: my people that was talking about him. But man, I
Speaker 1: just I'm sorry. Man, I I had a fair case.
Speaker 1: I have to see that right. I have to see
Speaker 1: him right because I know people get bitter and they
Speaker 1: just stopped even I just said in the beginning, I said,
Speaker 1: my ex homie disappear. I can call him a snitch
Speaker 1: all day long. Everybody, everybody in the street is calling
Speaker 1: him a snitch. But I haven't seen his name. And
Speaker 1: no paperwork. If there's some people that paperwork doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: it do matter, and paperwork you gotta see somebody's name
Speaker 1: on something. Before you just do it all other salt.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't even get into that, man, because
Speaker 1: it's one of the things to me, if I'm not
Speaker 1: involved in the case and ain't nobody telling them me,
Speaker 1: it ain't none of my business though, because people will
Speaker 1: get there what y'all don't understand up there. It's cute
Speaker 1: to play them look games online, calling people rats and
Speaker 1: all that, but somebody would bust your head open the
Speaker 1: streets were not and the penitentiary they'll put a knife
Speaker 1: for saying somebody that snitched on you and you ain't
Speaker 1: got no paperwork. But you know this this gangster thing. Man,
Speaker 1: I've been I was in it from the beginning then
Speaker 1: since a child. And it's so distorted, and it's so
Speaker 1: like I don't understand how people worship people did they've
Speaker 1: been to the contential. I just don't get that to me,
Speaker 1: like there's nothing to brag about. That's like it's no
Speaker 1: different than coming out of the casino, Like, man, I
Speaker 1: was off to me. That's like you didn't win, and
Speaker 1: I I'm I'm gonna tell you not to cut you off,
Speaker 1: bro down. Unfortunate thing about the area that we live in.
Speaker 1: It's almost like a write of passage for a young
Speaker 1: man to become, to go to jail and come out
Speaker 1: and become an old sheet. It's the most ridiculous thing ever, man.
Speaker 1: But that's the mindset of some of these people because
Speaker 1: they don't know no better. That's why we need to
Speaker 1: start changing the narrative of the stuff. It ain't cool,
Speaker 1: it ain't flyting with the jail. What else fly. It's
Speaker 1: for you to live your life. Go out, get educated,
Speaker 1: go find you a career, whatever it is that you
Speaker 1: went too, and find do some positives that you're life.
Speaker 1: That's what it els. Man. But but like I say,
Speaker 1: it's like it's these people who never did nothing and
Speaker 1: never been no situation they did. They living through rap
Speaker 1: zone and they think that's how real life here. Like
Speaker 1: when I was in jail. That's the only time I've
Speaker 1: been to jail too with my fair case, because I
Speaker 1: still have the six ft for six months before I
Speaker 1: bought it out. And people are telling me what they're
Speaker 1: in jail for, and I'm telling them today's face. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're in the right place, and I hope they keep
Speaker 1: you with the book. I hope you do a lot
Speaker 1: of time. I'm telling them this in jail, and they
Speaker 1: faced like it was some dudes. They were robbing phone
Speaker 1: stores and you know, at first of life, who robs
Speaker 1: the phone store? And I'm like, yeah, couldn't have been
Speaker 1: making no money? Like, no, man, when you get a
Speaker 1: hundred I phones and a hundred galaxies and you gotta
Speaker 1: fencive taken through. That's the sixties, severything about it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I never looked at it like that. And I'd say, so,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. If I'm in it in
Speaker 1: the phone store paying my phone, be or buying the phone,
Speaker 1: and I got my daughter with me, how does that work? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta get in the back like everybody else. You're
Speaker 1: gonna put the strap on you. And I'm like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I hope they give you life in prison for
Speaker 1: going around doing that for people. And I'm in jail
Speaker 1: telling this, and it's like, I don't see how people
Speaker 1: don't understand when I hear people go, I want with
Speaker 1: jail on my work in you know, some people need
Speaker 1: to be there. But the gangsters make this thing the
Speaker 1: only child molesters and rapist to be in jail, And
Speaker 1: that's just nuts. And you know some of these people
Speaker 1: are scumb man, Yes, a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people. It's like this scum man in this area
Speaker 1: that were in. That's all you go. Here is a
Speaker 1: bunch of talking on line. Man. You hear a bunch
Speaker 1: of cats talking to them nothing about nothing. They ain't
Speaker 1: you know when you come to this ain't nothing that happened.
Speaker 1: It's just all this. So the best thing to do, man,
Speaker 1: is just to really mind your own man, you live.
Speaker 1: Because another thing about the snitching, Another thing about the snitching,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I wasn't mad at nobody in
Speaker 1: my case who was lying on me trying to get
Speaker 1: out of jail, because man, it's something. It's something when
Speaker 1: they tell you when you're in the encourt and the
Speaker 1: judge like twenty of those life on this charge, twenty
Speaker 1: of the life on this charge, twiny of the guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, damn, I gotta be a real
Speaker 1: surreal feeling. Though. Man, you're sitting up, you're listening to
Speaker 1: that man that rod tell you that you're probably going
Speaker 1: to be in jail for the next twenty or thirty years.
Speaker 1: That's no life. I'm not making. No imagine every scenario up.
Speaker 1: This really happen at the me and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my mama, looking at my kids, like damn, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the right in prison. The twentye is bad, but
Speaker 1: I'm like twenty I watched my mama cry and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, man, this is this is real. But this
Speaker 1: is the ice on the cake. Though though this is
Speaker 1: the real ice on the cake, you possibly go through
Speaker 1: the rest of your life and sho or some stuff
Speaker 1: you didn't do that I didn't do what you didn't do,
Speaker 1: and you gotta keep your mouth shut about it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that, But you gotta keep your
Speaker 1: mouth shut about it. Now. That's what I chose to do.
Speaker 1: But I get it, man, there's people in there telling
Speaker 1: them their mama. Everybody ain't cut for it. Though everybody
Speaker 1: ain't cut everybody and I cut for it. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. That's why I'm square. It's
Speaker 1: about to cereal and don't have no change saying that.
Speaker 1: Megan's I'm not going to Yeah, I'm not doing it
Speaker 1: all right. Really, the reason I know one why my
Speaker 1: lot cousin Beyondre was on the case with me and
Speaker 1: him on the same tail block. So I'm telling them
Speaker 1: a man, dog, I'm going to trial. And you're like, man,
Speaker 1: you think you should do that because and I'm like you,
Speaker 1: twenty four you could do twenty years and come back.
Speaker 1: I'm not finna do no. I might will take life,
Speaker 1: but I'm finna get t one years that even if
Speaker 1: you do, who they want to go to jail for
Speaker 1: twenty years, you get out to forty four years old. Right,
Speaker 1: the quality of woman's kind of too late at that
Speaker 1: point to start of family unless you get a woman
Speaker 1: that's a little bit younger than you. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Why, like your life is over almost I
Speaker 1: got four five of my guys around meeting and it's
Speaker 1: nothing to them. They come back and get right in,
Speaker 1: get right back to it. But now some of them
Speaker 1: catching cases still they don't like it. They like they
Speaker 1: act like two years now that they're older, now that
Speaker 1: they're in the fifties, two years might as well be
Speaker 1: as I think I'm in my fifties. Dog, Well, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to go spend month. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: go spend the day. I need all of my time, dog,
Speaker 1: because we don't have this. But I tell all my homeboys, right,
Speaker 1: like you know with our company, right, I tell like this,
Speaker 1: I don't care what we do or what you want
Speaker 1: to do and support y'all. What if that's just not
Speaker 1: waste no time? Because when I have the time that
Speaker 1: we think you have, that's why you don't see me
Speaker 1: here arguing with these clowns. That's why you don't see
Speaker 1: me out here playing those games nobody, because I don't
Speaker 1: have time for it. I'm constantly a mash mode dog.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What we'll see what you're doing.
Speaker 1: See the streets are so focused. One time, I'm talking
Speaker 1: to my brother and he's a school teacher. He was
Speaker 1: straight up in the street, I know you're getting all
Speaker 1: type of money, like, man, I'm gonna go to Pilot
Speaker 1: to be a teacher. And I'm like, are you crazy?
Speaker 1: You get money right now? Man? This this ain't this
Speaker 1: ain't gonna as forever. And he sold all his cards
Speaker 1: and stuff. I hated him for it and what the
Speaker 1: college and became a teacher And now that's what are
Speaker 1: you're doing to this day. But I remember him telling me,
Speaker 1: You're like, man, you're gonna eat the work hard where
Speaker 1: you're wrong work hard when you're old, and working hard
Speaker 1: when you're old, and what's up. So I'm saying this
Speaker 1: is like like me, I never really work for nobody,
Speaker 1: So when I get fifty five, fifty five, I don't
Speaker 1: have no pension. So it's like, that's why I hustle.
Speaker 1: I got hustle. That's why you see me all over
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to stack money and buy property. That's
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't figure out what I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: and flip property. And when I obnously see I'm working
Speaker 1: on my retirement right now, I'm not. I'm an old
Speaker 1: man because I'm gonna take your big thing right now
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And I'm gonna tell you all content
Speaker 1: creators out here now, don't sell your catalog to nobody
Speaker 1: because they will come and ask them for it. But
Speaker 1: don't don't give it up because there's a lot of history.
Speaker 1: I hear, it's a lot of history and stories and everything.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing right now, man, with this content.
Speaker 1: And I see it, you know, because I've been doing
Speaker 1: this for seven eight years bro before it became a fad.
Speaker 1: Right what you're seeing knowledge, they're come and trying to
Speaker 1: buy people's catalog. They're back catalog. Dog. I had somebody
Speaker 1: offered me, I think half a million dollars and go
Speaker 1: for some of our old stuff, And I said, I
Speaker 1: thought about it, though I ain't gonna lie money. I
Speaker 1: don't know it ain't really it ain't really know money, man.
Speaker 1: You know because by the time you get it checked
Speaker 1: like that, man, a few years later, you're back in
Speaker 1: the same spot you was. And for some people that
Speaker 1: don't understand how money worked in the worst spot because
Speaker 1: not all these taxes right. Well, you know what, I
Speaker 1: know what I love. I love the p PP home
Speaker 1: thing and what a because you have so many people
Speaker 1: that thing like, man, if I DIDs, oh my life's
Speaker 1: gonna be. This is gonna be that. It's like, ain't
Speaker 1: no money, man, that's not no money. It ain't no money.
Speaker 1: And it's like I'm watching people like rescue Peace of
Speaker 1: my son. He was like one of the P P
Speaker 1: P scammers, you know what I'm saying. So that's that's
Speaker 1: all he was doing, was you know this, this that,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, you gotta do something with that
Speaker 1: money because how long ago and passed away. He He
Speaker 1: died July twenty four last year. God your family dog
Speaker 1: that got a yard. Though, Man, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: the truth. Man. It's like we have such a good
Speaker 1: relationship and I and he really got to give his life.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna say I like it, but I accepted.
Speaker 1: And he died in a car accident being high, fell asleep,
Speaker 1: crashed into a tree. But I'll I ever told him,
Speaker 1: we don't let these brogs be your demand, So I
Speaker 1: know I told him this. So it's like I I
Speaker 1: really can't crip off like you. He made a choice,
Speaker 1: you know. At his funderal, I said, hey, he's dead
Speaker 1: because he wanted to clop pills and stuff. So y'all
Speaker 1: need to think about that. For you get behind the
Speaker 1: will driving high or drunk or whatever. Everybody got drunk
Speaker 1: at the repass and still droves. It's just like people
Speaker 1: just don't believe. But yeah, man, it's like hopefully when
Speaker 1: I'm saying a register to somebody, to my son everywhere
Speaker 1: when he went, we all have to come free all
Speaker 1: this stuff. And he was only twenty four, but hey,
Speaker 1: he wanted to do them grugs. That's saying he lost
Speaker 1: his life so young man, you know at that point, man,
Speaker 1: you only just really figuring it out. Bro. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you right now, I think the average man don't
Speaker 1: really figure it out today thirty. Bro. That's why I
Speaker 1: hate seeing these shorties going down for the time they do,
Speaker 1: because they're not even who they're not even who they're
Speaker 1: gonna be yet. Man, they're four years old. What they
Speaker 1: think in their mind right now, their minds say, well,
Speaker 1: be so so different just for that next five years. Dog,
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. So you put a man in the jail
Speaker 1: for the rest of their life at that age, Man,
Speaker 1: they never become what they were supposed to be. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna high I'm not religious, but
Speaker 1: I'm really very spiritual. And when I don't caught that
Speaker 1: fair case, I feel like God put me in there
Speaker 1: to talk to somebody or just to have it and see,
Speaker 1: Oh my homies wanted the pen, all of them did.
Speaker 1: I didn't, though, And it was just like sometimes when
Speaker 1: you're trying to talk to dudes, well, you ain't ever
Speaker 1: been to jail, you don't know what it's like or whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever foolishness, But I'm in now, I'm watching dudes custo
Speaker 1: wee cold cases. You want to come back to the
Speaker 1: cell block and cry for me about what they're doing
Speaker 1: to you. But when y'all all go out the core,
Speaker 1: y'all slapping hairs and all that, like you, you should
Speaker 1: be telling everybody's like, man, this is messed up. I
Speaker 1: didn't messed up my life. And I honestly because I
Speaker 1: thought that case man, I wasn't doing nothing but flurging,
Speaker 1: spending money all the time. Most of us ain't doing
Speaker 1: then because I always be again when you cut your
Speaker 1: case six, okay, and I wasn't doing nothing. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, I ain't gonna say I never was a
Speaker 1: bumbass dude, you know what I mean. But me and
Speaker 1: my fifties, I'm a way better man. I was in
Speaker 1: my thirties and a way better man I was in
Speaker 1: my twenties, for damn sure. You know, I think you
Speaker 1: just kind of just start figuring it out, man. I
Speaker 1: think your sense of urgency become you get it more
Speaker 1: of a sense of urgency to get stuff done. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't have the time to sit around and kick
Speaker 1: it and do dumb ship and loan money, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you get a dime. Now you
Speaker 1: try to hold onto it. I'm more likely now whereas
Speaker 1: back in the day, man, when I was younger, I
Speaker 1: get it. I could have checked. Dog, I'm going to
Speaker 1: buy a new car. I'm gonna get some rams, go
Speaker 1: buy a thousand dollar pair of glass. I don't care
Speaker 1: about none of that. Now, I don't care about nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm putting money up because, like you said, when you're
Speaker 1: your own boss, you don't have no for one can
Speaker 1: wait before you said you gotta kind of put up
Speaker 1: man as you go along, you know, Yeah, well you
Speaker 1: know at strong point, now I gonna lie COVID kind
Speaker 1: of change my way of thinking and kind of changing
Speaker 1: my way of thinking from COVID head, I couldn't make
Speaker 1: no money off to wrap at all. Yeah, that's when
Speaker 1: you saw all these dudes getting the podcasts podcast popping up.
Speaker 1: Sit in the house, I said, in the house, I
Speaker 1: fixed my credit. I never even cared about my credit
Speaker 1: for my mama bell mere about it. I care less.
Speaker 1: So now I'm telling my sister was like, hey, I
Speaker 1: got a little money, but it's gonna go fast. I
Speaker 1: gotta figure out something. And she she's like, hey, you
Speaker 1: should you just start masking property with that and flipping
Speaker 1: it in and I got off into that. But here
Speaker 1: I am. This is only in two thousand twenty when
Speaker 1: I when I started, But that's right there made me
Speaker 1: say like, hey, if I leave this earth today, what
Speaker 1: am I leaving? You know? What am I leaving for
Speaker 1: my kids? And different stuff? So that that just made
Speaker 1: me start moving different and hearing what my brother said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna work hard when you're young, or work hard
Speaker 1: when you go. So that that's why I don't man
Speaker 1: moving on like people don't know. Man, I hate going
Speaker 1: to parties. I hate it. I don't smoke, I don't drink.
Speaker 1: I hate me and out they I go to sleep
Speaker 1: early because I get up early and do real business,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, but I know that I
Speaker 1: have to do this to to have my exit plan straight.
Speaker 1: It's like it ain't no different when I was in
Speaker 1: the drug game. I remember I told uh my oldest
Speaker 1: daughter Mama said, hey, I'm going to stop doing all
Speaker 1: this stuff. I'm saying, get a studio with all that.
Speaker 1: She said, So you're saying you're gonna try like being
Speaker 1: a music business. I'm like, yeah, I'm just taking my
Speaker 1: money and do that she say, Okay, well I'm gonna
Speaker 1: leaving you, and she left. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But even back then, I was just thinking I'm my
Speaker 1: exit plan and you're like, ha ha, look at me,
Speaker 1: now look at you. And that's but that's the thing
Speaker 1: about a woman, though. Man. If a woman is not
Speaker 1: in your plan, what you're dun't believing what you're doing,
Speaker 1: they can almost they can almost sure stop your goals.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If you listen to that ship,
Speaker 1: they can cut you off. So you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: definitely have a woman that's on board with your dog
Speaker 1: or it ain't going you definitely. But but I I
Speaker 1: respect her to this day. We were y'all. But at
Speaker 1: least she did that and then't stay in my way.
Speaker 1: She kept real and she got on. She said, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you don't do this stuff, I'm leaving you because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, man, in a woman's defense, some
Speaker 1: of these dudes I here talk about they're going to music,
Speaker 1: ain't got no business rapping. Get your ass a job
Speaker 1: and take care of your family. Because I think we're
Speaker 1: happen before y'all have cats Mann forty years. Oh we'll
Speaker 1: talk about man listening to my demo now, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about the brothers who's been doing it for a while,
Speaker 1: though I believe I don't think we got no retirement
Speaker 1: age to it necessarily, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: you just can't decide at the age of for you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna become a rapper. Well, here here's the problem.
Speaker 1: Just like what you're doing with the podcast, all this
Speaker 1: originated from hip hop, so you gotta find other stuff
Speaker 1: to do. Exactly a rapper. You just got to like
Speaker 1: my mom day, my man, my daddy was talking. My
Speaker 1: daddy is so funny, but sometimes be done the straight truth.
Speaker 1: And he was talking about Smokey Robinson. He was like,
Speaker 1: but here, I am like twentysothing listening to them say this,
Speaker 1: and You're like, man, don't nobody want to see No
Speaker 1: who want to see somebody old? He's like, see what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do when that rap stuff when you get old?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, he got a point. I don't
Speaker 1: nobody want to see these dudes when they get People
Speaker 1: ain't going to see Curtis blow right now. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta bro I think he was a certain people
Speaker 1: like Curtis blow us up for or Father Rap, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think he got certain times
Speaker 1: where he can go to the old school festivals. Like
Speaker 1: I still go to a big Daddy King concert. I
Speaker 1: still go see bou Chain, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: meet his big daddy keep going down. Yeah. But like, um,
Speaker 1: it's like this, like I would love to see Willie
Speaker 1: Deeve and scar Face hook up and do some more
Speaker 1: music together. I think it's just certain stuff that's cool,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you have to remember,
Speaker 1: I'm a promoter, and ten years ago that old school
Speaker 1: stuf from where was that? Now you got the old
Speaker 1: school rabbits making just as much if the new school
Speaker 1: was when they go out. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: ten years ago? Let me ask you this, dog, since
Speaker 1: since you are a promoter, who you think the hottest
Speaker 1: ticket from the West coast? He is right now in
Speaker 1: the Midwest, from the West coast in the Midwest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like who could you book right now and sell out
Speaker 1: every day that you do? We'll make money on every day. Um.
Speaker 1: I can say this. I can say this. This might
Speaker 1: have a lot of people like what is this that
Speaker 1: we're talking about? They had a concert here in Chicago
Speaker 1: and the headline of was Kendrick Lamar and it was
Speaker 1: like Future somebody else is gonna probably go booshie or something.
Speaker 1: After Future performed half the crowd though, Yeah, Future like
Speaker 1: that with that music then not against Kendrick. Future got
Speaker 1: them head knockers, dough he got that club music. Dog.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying up this way, if it ain't about
Speaker 1: if it ain't about getting high, That's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say to that West that's the Midwest and South, dog,
Speaker 1: Ye West and South like real grammy gangster ship though,
Speaker 1: because like the boy, the boy blue Face, they're come
Speaker 1: out for him. They come out got a follow Yeah,
Speaker 1: we like somebody what real lyrics? When you know what
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy? Dog, I'm gonna tell you something
Speaker 1: that's real. Ill right spice one m c a uh
Speaker 1: the dog fight them dude is gonna be able to
Speaker 1: go out and get money forever. Yeah, for the rest
Speaker 1: of their life, go out forever, because don't do steak
Speaker 1: what they made. They made classics. Let's see you. Like
Speaker 1: I said, they fans just got older though. Yeah, for real,
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't relate to what they who want
Speaker 1: to be the concert what they what their granddad, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now that they fans older,
Speaker 1: we gotta go this into something. So I hadn't been
Speaker 1: on the old school tours with Scarface and Too Short
Speaker 1: and they're packing arenas now, yeah, you think this thinking
Speaker 1: about it like this, I'm my fitties dog. You know
Speaker 1: what's in my playlist right now. Let's project black chees
Speaker 1: and dope, Scarface to Diary even his new one, my
Speaker 1: boy my boy EP executive produced that one. To the
Speaker 1: latest album Scarface put out and then it was hard.
Speaker 1: It's probably his best album. Yeah. The root of the
Speaker 1: album one deeply rooted Scarface put Yeah. Good latest album
Speaker 1: Dog and that's pretty much the extensive dog poun I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you go be able to make money forever.
Speaker 1: It was like the biggest rapper on the planet. A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't give us prop. Snoop Dog, Oh
Speaker 1: Snoop Oh Yeah, come out man. Snoop is the O man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Snoop is like an icon dog. He all over the world.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you how I knew it was
Speaker 1: levels of this me and big Psych Rest in peace.
Speaker 1: That was my dog big tyrus Man. You know two
Speaker 1: fox right here. Man, so we in dubaib Man. I
Speaker 1: go down to the hotel to the the laundry room,
Speaker 1: you know, to try cleaning things. And I'm picking up
Speaker 1: some stuff and Letty just say, oh, you have very
Speaker 1: nice shirts like she says, nice material. What do you do?
Speaker 1: I said, entertainment right and she says, M rap music.
Speaker 1: I said yes. She said, I don't know much rap,
Speaker 1: but I know Snoop Dogg he dog He's my favorite.
Speaker 1: And it's Letty had to be about seventy some years
Speaker 1: over here. Let me know, I said, Man, Snoop getting
Speaker 1: all the money. You know somebody else they sleep all though?
Speaker 1: Was that people sleep on bone oh no bonus iconic
Speaker 1: dog boning icons. And I think if they ever decided
Speaker 1: to and buckle down dog and decided to just really
Speaker 1: put an album together, I think that they're having another
Speaker 1: platinum out. They're still cold around. One show you're never
Speaker 1: gonna see. That would have never happened because how much
Speaker 1: with the ticket coast see the west coast, get the
Speaker 1: props south east. But tell me this, at the Heights,
Speaker 1: you would have never been able to see Nellie eminem
Speaker 1: R Kelly Boone, Kanye that would have never happened. On
Speaker 1: one ticket, it would have never happened. Now these other
Speaker 1: places you can get a West coast concert would have
Speaker 1: got a heavy hitters. You can get it down South
Speaker 1: concert what have got a heavy hitters, But that never
Speaker 1: would have happened with the Dead West. We had some
Speaker 1: of the biggest people to do it. And it's less
Speaker 1: like everybody act like they don't see that dog. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this right now, and I know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get a bunch of inboxes, but don't do it,
Speaker 1: because I got facts the biggest artists in the world
Speaker 1: from the Midwest, who you know when you think about
Speaker 1: the dog, we think about it now you think about
Speaker 1: the pig sign then, But don't give me no stuff
Speaker 1: about him. And I'm not being this that boys. Sales
Speaker 1: and records, Yeah, but now big Sean you got Tech
Speaker 1: nine and selling millions of records. Now now you got
Speaker 1: all of them. Chica, Detroit got that little Bay area
Speaker 1: SOIGND going out them little was out there selling records. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look at them, look at yeah. Can get West West.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But man, I appreciate you something
Speaker 1: on here with me, Man, and we have to do
Speaker 1: a part too. Anytime you have to show to another
Speaker 1: part to it, I might ask, yeah, you connect that
Speaker 1: Chicago run you and other homies. So I've come up
Speaker 1: there for a few weeks and just get everybody on things.
Speaker 1: I got a whole bunch homies I want to talk to.
Speaker 1: And I keep telling you I'm not doing everything remote
Speaker 1: like I want to get you live. Dog. Well, now
Speaker 1: you're coming in July. You want your brodaa interview, come
Speaker 1: in and I have about when I come back to
Speaker 1: my white next week. Dog, I'm there. I'm gonna saying
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you to date for Pad to be
Speaker 1: up here with me showing me the date. Man might
Speaker 1: do Brian and take that flight out there. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: saying to tell your numbers up for your brother ash Shore.
Speaker 1: Let me check us out. Then that concludes another episode
Speaker 1: against the Chronicles podcast. I appreciate the homeboy. Uncle Beats
Speaker 1: stop to the city and sitty in with me. Beats,
Speaker 1: give me your information, dog, wa they can go tap
Speaker 1: in with you at Man. You can find me any well,
Speaker 1: Uncle Beats. You know I got a I got music,
Speaker 1: I got videos, I got interviews, I got everything. Look
Speaker 1: up Uncle Beats on all social media. I'm coming up, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. And he connected with every damn body in
Speaker 1: the world. If I don't know Uncle Beats, no, that's
Speaker 1: for damn sure. And we out of here. Let's get
Speaker 1: it all right,