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Speaker 1: Frank Stample. I am Greg Sauceman. What's happen about? Great
Speaker 1: happy Monday to you. I hope you had a great weekend.
Speaker 1: Did we had a Tyson Fury fight? Good times? We
Speaker 1: got some peace, Paul. It's a great weekend, Greg. Nice
Speaker 1: weather too, really nice weather this weekend and your weekend go.
Speaker 1: I just sleep, man, I slept pretty well, have very funny.
Speaker 1: I was excited to tell you about hit me very excited.
Speaker 1: Uh So on Saturday night, Frank I woke up and
Speaker 1: I found out overnight in my dreams that we uh
Speaker 1: we fired Craig Mish. Oh, I'm not laughing at you, Craig,
Speaker 1: I'm laughing with you. So we fired Craig Mish, but
Speaker 1: you still host the fs T. Do you want to
Speaker 1: know who you hosted it with? Um? I do want
Speaker 1: to know. So I guess it was FST with Frank
Speaker 1: Staffle and my dad Rob. Susan's right, it was you
Speaker 1: and Rob hosted f S Day whenever the Fantasy League
Speaker 1: gets a fresh pair of socks, sir. So that was
Speaker 1: We worked on some wedding album stuff. Very it was fun.
Speaker 1: We were all the same side, which was nice. It's hard, man,
Speaker 1: it's really hard. Wedding album. Oh you're creating your Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta pick out pictures before you like, Yeah, officially done.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it during the update and somebody
Speaker 1: else cares um. But we got that. We got Relief
Speaker 1: Picture rankings, our debut. With the rankings, we're going backwards.
Speaker 1: Everybody else that starts to catcher, we don't. We started
Speaker 1: the Relief Picture akings. We had some NBA to talk
Speaker 1: about as well before we do any of that. Shan
Speaker 1: Glassmachia your sports trading us up. I'm John Glossomakia with
Speaker 1: your sports trade news update. All right. Kobe Bryant remembered
Speaker 1: right now going on at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: His widow, Vanessa Bryant calls Kobe m v P of
Speaker 1: girls Dad's and she went on to say, God knew
Speaker 1: that Gianna and Kobe couldn't be together on the start
Speaker 1: without each other. He had to bring them home. And
Speaker 1: you have them together, babe, you take care of our
Speaker 1: g end. Quote. So a lot of emotions raging right
Speaker 1: now at the Staples Center as they remember Kobe and
Speaker 1: Gianna Bryant. Let's go over to the NHL and they
Speaker 1: trade deadline. One of the more key names on the
Speaker 1: waiver wire or the trade rumor mill was Chris Criter.
Speaker 1: He was, of of course, the New York Rangers forward.
Speaker 1: He's no longer on the trade rumor mill. He is
Speaker 1: locked up for seven years. Of twenty eight year old
Speaker 1: signed a six point five annual average value deal with
Speaker 1: the New York Rangers. He has four goals and one
Speaker 1: assists in sixty games this season. Set to break a
Speaker 1: career high in both categories. He is now a New
Speaker 1: York ranger for the next seven years. We think he
Speaker 1: is locked up, so he is no longer on the
Speaker 1: trade rumor Mill All right, let's go over to the
Speaker 1: Rodal world and MLB hands a road lest the Angels closer.
Speaker 1: That's what Joe Madden, the manager said today. He's pretty
Speaker 1: safe bet to begin the season as the team's closer.
Speaker 1: Last year he saved twenty three games with a two
Speaker 1: point four three e R, a seventy five K, sixteen
Speaker 1: walks in seventy two and two thirds innings. Last seasons
Speaker 1: hands a road least now the closer, according to Joe
Speaker 1: Mann and the Angels owner. So that's some BFFs news
Speaker 1: right there. And friend Mill Rays, the Cleveland Indians outfielder
Speaker 1: has dropped eighteen pounds in the off season. He hit
Speaker 1: over thirty home runs for the Padres last year or so.
Speaker 1: He isn't known to be a defensive liability. Losing eighteen
Speaker 1: pounds might help in your fantasy traps there. If you
Speaker 1: are a big Friend Mobrays fan, that is your BFF
Speaker 1: sports grid news update for this hour. Now back to
Speaker 1: Greg and Frank take it away all right, Thanks so much, Sean.
Speaker 1: And we mentioned at the top of the show we're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about closers and relief pitchers here in
Speaker 1: terms of fantasy baseball. But before we do all that,
Speaker 1: we did want to jump a little bit into the
Speaker 1: NBA here. Earlier today, our own Greg Sussman spoke with
Speaker 1: Daily Rhodo's Ricky Sanders about tonight's NBA DFS slate. Here's
Speaker 1: who you should be building your lineups around tonight. Let's
Speaker 1: complete the Philly triffect to hear with you. Well embed
Speaker 1: at center, Dude Emvite Janice Dodges. How are you pulling
Speaker 1: this off? Well, we didn't mention Kendrick not a point
Speaker 1: guard who's under five k, which is just a crazy
Speaker 1: price tag for him. So again, if you're playing Richardson
Speaker 1: and you're playing him all of a sudden, you can
Speaker 1: pull it off with relative ease. But look, I mean
Speaker 1: Joel embiid against this Atlanta Hawks team that again allows
Speaker 1: a ton of stocks. It's just a great setup in itself.
Speaker 1: And then you have Ben Simmons out of rotation, and
Speaker 1: without Ben Simmons, Joel embiad isp posted to like a
Speaker 1: thirty five percent usage rate, a rebound rate that's gone up.
Speaker 1: We haven't had a twenty five percent rebound rate baseline
Speaker 1: on Daily Rhodo. Obviously, Ben Simmons a good rebounder, and
Speaker 1: you know as a point guard, and you look at
Speaker 1: this matchup, I mean, it's just great. This Hawks team
Speaker 1: has not covered center as well all year long. You know,
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid could get you those blocks, and that's beyond
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't projected with a high usage rate,
Speaker 1: high assist rate, a high rebound rates rate. In fact,
Speaker 1: with Ben Simmons out, So Joel Embiid just does everything.
Speaker 1: It's a great spot for him. It's a great matchup,
Speaker 1: and it he really doesn't matter. With Tobias Harris, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be the focal point of his offense. Hey,
Speaker 1: you haven't. I got an opportunity to talk to Ricky
Speaker 1: earlier today you will be the sixers. That's where we're looking.
Speaker 1: No Ben Simmons tonight, Harris's questionable. So before you check
Speaker 1: to finalize your line ups, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: Daily Order dot Com to set them. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: great point. Look, whenever Ben Simmons is out, Greg you're
Speaker 1: looking to build your teams around some of those seventies
Speaker 1: sixers players, and it makes a lot of sense. You
Speaker 1: heard it from Ricky Sanders. Joel embiid usage rate up
Speaker 1: over thirty five per cent when Ben Simmons is not
Speaker 1: on the floor. So you're looking to fill out your
Speaker 1: DFS lineups tonight trying to figure out who to build
Speaker 1: around Greg, I think Joel and beat the process makes
Speaker 1: the most sense, of course. Not trust it, man, you
Speaker 1: gott trust the process. There you go Daily Order dot Com.
Speaker 1: Make sure you check that out. But be four lineups
Speaker 1: lock tonight, righty? Should we start our relief as your rankings? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do it all right? So I have I have rankings.
Speaker 1: Greg has rankings, Frank rankings. No, No, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Right? What is this right here that I'm
Speaker 1: looking at? That's Fantasy Pros rankings. Rank No, those are
Speaker 1: my rankings, which go on Fantasy Pross whatever. Five most
Speaker 1: accurate rank about nine. I haven't released the yet. I
Speaker 1: believe I saw they did. Well, then I'm not on it.
Speaker 1: I did. I'm not even kidding. I did see it.
Speaker 1: Did I don't know? I did see they did? Then
Speaker 1: ruses on it. I did not rank very highly and
Speaker 1: rhonases on it. Now you piqued my interest. All right, anyway,
Speaker 1: if you look over here on my computer, look at
Speaker 1: this color CODEDE sheet. I got my color codes ready
Speaker 1: to rock with the relief pitchers, considering this is the
Speaker 1: only show draft accuracy out yet. I saw draft projections.
Speaker 1: Then I saw raft projection injections. I saw I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not even making it up. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that means. Then I will find it during the break
Speaker 1: for you. All right, Well, they haven't released the twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen draft accuracy rankings from last year. We're still waiting
Speaker 1: on those. All right, I'm sure I finished, like number one,
Speaker 1: Chris MENI got something, that's how I know. And I
Speaker 1: saw this a color coded movie. You want? This is
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do is better room may that's Venmo,
Speaker 1: Greg solid. I don't know what do you charge for
Speaker 1: that nowadays? You know cool? A couple of suckles were good,
Speaker 1: A couple of cecles. You rather have w W E
Speaker 1: network or the Greg network. So I was was trying
Speaker 1: to make these rankings, uh previously five minutes ago, and um,
Speaker 1: I have a really hard time this year. And this
Speaker 1: is what I'm hoping to use the show for trying
Speaker 1: to figure out like where the first here ends and
Speaker 1: the next year begins, and then that's here after that.
Speaker 1: Like I'm all about tears, you know that about me,
Speaker 1: But it's really hard for me to kind of figure
Speaker 1: out who's elite and who's not because I really think
Speaker 1: that truly, every closer on the board I think hasn't
Speaker 1: been wrong with them as like a welt, And because
Speaker 1: of that, I don't my tears are like much larger.
Speaker 1: They're literally impacts of ten. Franc I literally have two
Speaker 1: packs of ten for the first nineteen or you know,
Speaker 1: essentially pac ten the first nineteen relief pictures off my board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, the closer position is always a tough
Speaker 1: one to figure out for fantasy purposes. And obviously if
Speaker 1: you play in Rhodo or head to Add Categories, saves
Speaker 1: count for a lot more. Honestly, if you play in
Speaker 1: head to Add Categories, I would probably just punt some
Speaker 1: on bases and punt saves. But that's just me. I
Speaker 1: know that there's a lot of strategy built around, you know,
Speaker 1: getting those elite relievers in that type of format if
Speaker 1: you want to and head to head points leagues, they're
Speaker 1: not nearly as valuable. But yeah, Greg, look, I think
Speaker 1: the position now is harder to figure out than ever
Speaker 1: before because as we go through today and try and
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, every team's closing situation, you're gonna
Speaker 1: see that there's at least five, six, seven teams that
Speaker 1: are going to have multiple closers or don't have a
Speaker 1: set closer right now. Gabe Kapler's out in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: If you watch the BFFs the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: you know, I hate Gabe Kapitler because he can never
Speaker 1: figure out who his closure is gonna be. You know,
Speaker 1: he changes it up every single day based on match.
Speaker 1: So it was based on this, based on that, you know,
Speaker 1: analytics for his closers. Uh, And now, well, I guess
Speaker 1: he's got a fun job to figure out who's gonna
Speaker 1: use out there in San Francisco because A they're not
Speaker 1: gonna win a lot of games, Greg, and B I
Speaker 1: don't think they really have that many great relievers in general.
Speaker 1: So like most years, I would say this year is uh,
Speaker 1: it's an interesting situation trying to figure out all these
Speaker 1: closing situations. There's a lot of question marks. This year,
Speaker 1: We're gonna break down, starting at the top. When we
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Speaker 1: it's our closer Rankings programmed. Where do you rankings? All
Speaker 1: all week long? Oh? Next week, we're that's that time
Speaker 1: of year. We're getting the mark. Next week's March. We
Speaker 1: basically have to do two weeks worth of ranking shows.
Speaker 1: Grego's next. We're gonna have to spend like two days
Speaker 1: on out fielders, two days I'm starting pitchers. That's the
Speaker 1: next two weeks, right, and then next week what's up
Speaker 1: the draft? Next week? No, right, it's not what draft auction? Draft? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: the auction is after it's like Thursday. I got on
Speaker 1: my calendar here March March twelfth. Next week's the fifth
Speaker 1: ready that I wasn't so crazy to ask. You're not
Speaker 1: far off. You didn't realize that was close? Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: You're not wrong. There's two weeks from this. Thursday is
Speaker 1: our first draft of the year. I mean, good times.
Speaker 1: I'm already nervous. Why we're gonna crush you? We already?
Speaker 1: You already have a list? Do I do the list?
Speaker 1: Hashtag list um. Who was listening to the show Dane
Speaker 1: Dane Martears listen to the show last week and he
Speaker 1: heard of our strategy a little bit about how I
Speaker 1: want to piss everybody off. He enjoyed the show, he
Speaker 1: says me. He says, let's succeed every year. He's not wrong.
Speaker 1: All I do is have fun. Let's go greatly jumping right.
Speaker 1: Let's jump right in here today and let's get into
Speaker 1: the closers. As I mentioned my top tier and asked
Speaker 1: Frank right before the show starting, where is the top
Speaker 1: tier end? And he's like, there's four guys and then
Speaker 1: there's everybody else. But I was looking at the four
Speaker 1: guys and I'm like, I think there's issues. So for me,
Speaker 1: I got like nine guys. I feel very comfortable draking
Speaker 1: any of these guys. I don't want to spend on
Speaker 1: any of the top four because I like the other
Speaker 1: six more just as much. And to be fair, I've
Speaker 1: done two drafts already, Greg, and I have not wound
Speaker 1: up with either of the top four closures that I
Speaker 1: have in that top tier um anyway, So I mean
Speaker 1: that's not how That's usually what I do when it
Speaker 1: comes to relief pictures in rhoto leagues and head to
Speaker 1: end categories leagues. I am going to more often than
Speaker 1: not to wait for those top five or six to go.
Speaker 1: I'll wind up with one of my top ten closers Greg,
Speaker 1: then I'll probably jump in the eleven to fifteen range,
Speaker 1: and then maybe just add a few more speculative guys
Speaker 1: swords the back end of the draft. But more often
Speaker 1: than not, I don't wind up with one of the
Speaker 1: top five closures, Greg, because the value is just too high.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I got nineteen guys. As I
Speaker 1: mentioned that I like nineteen of them, I want two
Speaker 1: of the nineteen. That's fair. I think that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Yeah, And I'm not gonna spend up
Speaker 1: for the number one closer, who is Josh Hayter this
Speaker 1: year coming off the board. And I'm not gonna spend
Speaker 1: up for Curbs, who's traditionally number two, And there might
Speaker 1: number one and two also, I just don't see myself
Speaker 1: spending up. I'm gonna wait and wait and wait and
Speaker 1: take two of my top nine team. So let's go
Speaker 1: through some of the top guys. I want to tell
Speaker 1: you why I'm like pausing rather than drafting these players,
Speaker 1: because like I think they have welts and number one,
Speaker 1: we have Josh Hayden, number two, Curvy eighth, number three
Speaker 1: or all this, Chapman, number four, Roberto oh soona and
Speaker 1: that's like the consensus top four, right, That's what you
Speaker 1: told me, that top serious, correct, That's what it is
Speaker 1: for me. Okay, So those are the top four. Now
Speaker 1: the reason I don't want to spend up for them,
Speaker 1: I will go with the ones that are clearer to me.
Speaker 1: Rollis Chapman a lot of miles on that arm. We've
Speaker 1: seen him be pulled in the closer roll before, we've
Speaker 1: seen him go on the I l a couple of
Speaker 1: times elbow injuries, shoulder injuries. You wonder if all of
Speaker 1: these pitches, all of these years, and that knee issue
Speaker 1: that always recurs, you wonder if it catches up to
Speaker 1: him at some point. Again, not I I don't like.
Speaker 1: Are all the Chapman's right. Number three closer issues are
Speaker 1: about Herby Yates led the MLB and saves last year
Speaker 1: with forty one saves. We were just talking about it
Speaker 1: during the break, Frank forty one saves he had. But
Speaker 1: I believe it's a free agent to be or is
Speaker 1: this just the year left? The Padres thought about trading
Speaker 1: him last year at the deadline. They didn't this year.
Speaker 1: If they fall out of it, they're going to just
Speaker 1: like they did Brad Hand before him. And if Kurby
Speaker 1: Yates goes, somebody else will stop up. Amilio Pagan. I
Speaker 1: just traded for very good, very good reliever, Herby Yates,
Speaker 1: the number two. Costing what he costs, it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: worth it to me. And then you have Josh Hayder,
Speaker 1: who is amazing the best reliever in baseball. Oh right,
Speaker 1: he has all these multi inning appearances. They deploy him
Speaker 1: whenever they want to. This is the issue we said
Speaker 1: with him coming in the last season, and they had
Speaker 1: a bunch of relievers in Milwaukee that could wind up
Speaker 1: getting this job at some point or stealing saves. Hayter's
Speaker 1: the guy, He's the number one guy. He's the best
Speaker 1: out of these players. What if you're just specifically looking
Speaker 1: for saves at you have questions when it comes to
Speaker 1: Josh had Finally, Ronny at the top four is a Rhodo,
Speaker 1: So he's a cheater. Well they got that's all you got. Well,
Speaker 1: it's worth mentioning that our own Craig miss who was
Speaker 1: still on Fantasy Sports today by the way, him Greg's
Speaker 1: dad did not replace Craig Mish spoke with Alex Bregman
Speaker 1: over the weekend. We're at I don't know where, somewhere
Speaker 1: at spring training wherever they are, somewhere in Florida, and uh,
Speaker 1: he said that Roberto Soona is going to lead all
Speaker 1: of baseball and saves and subcaraus I can see that.
Speaker 1: Like to me, it's not crazy, you know, cost the least,
Speaker 1: it may lead them and saves like the most. He's
Speaker 1: probably the one that I'm most likely to draft, just
Speaker 1: based on So you look at the adp over at
Speaker 1: the Fantasy pros right now, we're gonna put him in
Speaker 1: white on the on the rankings, and Josh Hayder is
Speaker 1: going off the board at fifty seven overall. So I mean, look,
Speaker 1: that's a steep price that you're talking about. In a
Speaker 1: twelve team league, you have to use a fifth round
Speaker 1: pick on a closer. Mind you, you're gonna get the
Speaker 1: best closer in the game. You're gonna get a ton
Speaker 1: of strikeouts, great ratios from Josh Hayter as well, But
Speaker 1: that is a big price tag to pay up. You're
Speaker 1: passing up on, you know, legit top twenty starting pitchers,
Speaker 1: you're passing up on stolen bases, which are scarce category
Speaker 1: as well. Curby Yates, I'm with you, Greg, I think
Speaker 1: he's awesome. The sub too e er. Last year he's
Speaker 1: ridiculous and we were all over him. I actually wound
Speaker 1: up with a few shares of Curby rates last season. Uh.
Speaker 1: Phenomenal splitter, no doubt about it. We think you raise
Speaker 1: a great point that they already have traded away Brad
Speaker 1: Hand in the past, they were thinking about trading away
Speaker 1: Kirby Yates. Last year they just traded four and they
Speaker 1: gave up some assets together anymore. Amilio Pagan who is
Speaker 1: a phenomenal look in his own right, and they also
Speaker 1: have another name in Andres Munios who came up last year.
Speaker 1: It was like a hundred five miles per hour. They
Speaker 1: actually are projected to have one of, if not the
Speaker 1: best bullpens in the Nationals. There's well, it's on one
Speaker 1: and two for you continue and I'm with you on Osuda.
Speaker 1: I'm most likely to drop chairman oh on a roller.
Speaker 1: Chapman look, he has missed time and the strikeouts were
Speaker 1: down last year, the swinging strike rate was down, the
Speaker 1: velocity was pretty much on par. I mean, doesn't throw
Speaker 1: as hard as he used to, but but you still
Speaker 1: have to worry about the knees in the back of
Speaker 1: your mind a little bit. He has thrown a lot,
Speaker 1: uh look playing for one of the best teams in
Speaker 1: baseball and the Yankees, they have the highest projected over
Speaker 1: under for any team in baseball this upcoming season. They're
Speaker 1: going to win a lot of games, and you know,
Speaker 1: he easily could save forty plus games this upcoming season.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Greg, I think based on the
Speaker 1: price tag you have to pay for all this, Chapman
Speaker 1: he's I think like some of the names that are
Speaker 1: going behind him are really not that dissimilar, and you
Speaker 1: might be able to get them a few rounds later.
Speaker 1: So I don't really have a problem waiting on him.
Speaker 1: If you want to grab Chapman, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: But you still do have to pay a big price
Speaker 1: tag he's going off the board. I pick seventy one
Speaker 1: right now, Greg, So back into the sixth round in
Speaker 1: a twelve team league. Again, that's that's a big price
Speaker 1: to pay for for your first closer. There you go.
Speaker 1: We're all we're on the same page here when it
Speaker 1: comes to Reberto. Assume you be in our favorite of
Speaker 1: this tier. Let's move on. Let's move on. You think
Speaker 1: that tears over here right like, that's where you're stopping.
Speaker 1: You're cutting it off, making a new color. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with you kind of just keeping
Speaker 1: one big tier for like your top ten. That's fine
Speaker 1: to me. I think that these four are you know,
Speaker 1: if they remain the closest for their respective teams the
Speaker 1: entirety of the season would not surprise me. If they
Speaker 1: all have sub two point five oh e r A
Speaker 1: s really good strikeout numbers, and forty plus saves. I
Speaker 1: would just put those these this group before I have
Speaker 1: less doubt about than the other group of players were
Speaker 1: about to talk about next gree al right, so let's
Speaker 1: get let's get to those next guys. It would just
Speaker 1: keep diving in Frank, because for me, I look at
Speaker 1: these guys that are in the next crew and I'll
Speaker 1: just kind of rattle them off and you could order
Speaker 1: them how you pre For Frank, you got Liam Hendrix
Speaker 1: in here. We talked about him briefly last week. You
Speaker 1: got Kenley Jansen in here. We talked about him briefly
Speaker 1: last week in the same conversation. Guys, we think that
Speaker 1: could be this year's late China. We got Greig Kimberle.
Speaker 1: I believe in this mix. We have Taylor Rogers. I
Speaker 1: believe in this mix. And finally, for me, where my
Speaker 1: top nine ends, I got Edwin Diaz here as well.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody I'm leaving out or anybody that wouldn't
Speaker 1: be in that top nine? So I have the top
Speaker 1: four as the first year, and then I have five
Speaker 1: through eleven for me that are kind of in this
Speaker 1: They could still be really really good, but again they
Speaker 1: have more Awartz than the than the first four that
Speaker 1: we already spoke about. And for me, that group is
Speaker 1: Brad Hand, Taylor Rogers, Ken Giles, Edwin Diaz, Liam Hendrix,
Speaker 1: Kenley Jansen, and Craig Kimberl rounding out the top. So
Speaker 1: it basically it's Brad Hand and Ken Giles that I
Speaker 1: probably just move up to a bigger tier. But look,
Speaker 1: I mean there's concerns over both of those guys as well.
Speaker 1: Like Brad Hand was not nearly as elite last year
Speaker 1: as he was. He can there's a chance he could
Speaker 1: be traded as well, and they have And I think
Speaker 1: with Ken Giles was he was trading the Yankees acquired him,
Speaker 1: but they look at this his medicals like, yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take this guy. You're out on Ken Giles.
Speaker 1: If the Yankees are out, Greg's out. I hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying. But Greg, he was phenomenal last year, just
Speaker 1: into the highest strikeout rate of his career, elite numbers.
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of you know, Ken, can he
Speaker 1: stay healthy? Can you remain healthy? And a lot of
Speaker 1: people expect the Toronto Blue Jays to be more competitive
Speaker 1: this upcoming season. Again, what he did last year a
Speaker 1: sub two e r A, a whip of one point
Speaker 1: zero zero twenty three saves, just one blown, save eighty
Speaker 1: three strikeouts in fifty three and two thirds endings pitched. Greg,
Speaker 1: I understand the injury concerns you might have over Ken Giles,
Speaker 1: but I think you could say that about a lot
Speaker 1: of the guys that we're talking about here. Kenley Jansen
Speaker 1: has not, you know, been the model of health you
Speaker 1: worry about, you know, the heart condition that he has,
Speaker 1: plus his um his performance has you know, taken a
Speaker 1: step back. Craig Kimberly, you have some of those same
Speaker 1: concerns about Liam Hendricks you just dubbed last week as
Speaker 1: this year's blake, trying to tell me they all have war.
Speaker 1: Give me the person who has the best skills of
Speaker 1: this group, and I think Ken Giles is up there
Speaker 1: as one of them. And I think you can argue
Speaker 1: the same thing for Edwin dis Edwin is exactly the
Speaker 1: guys I think Edwin Diaz and Ken Giles, to me, Greg,
Speaker 1: are always married together. Even a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: there were two guys that I was completely awful because
Speaker 1: it seems like they could just implode at any time.
Speaker 1: And last year we saw that implosion from Edwin Diaz
Speaker 1: and we saw Ken Giles go the other way, actually
Speaker 1: took a huge step forward. It's just a matter now
Speaker 1: of him staying healthy. And if he does that, I
Speaker 1: think you're looking at thirty five plus saves. You can't
Speaker 1: just look at teams and say, oh, the Blue Jays
Speaker 1: are not gonna be great, because look at the padres
Speaker 1: one less than eighty games, team win close. Kirby Yates
Speaker 1: led the league in with forty one safe, So you
Speaker 1: can't really look at teams and I just think that
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays are gonna be better. And I really
Speaker 1: like the skills out of Ken Giles as well. I
Speaker 1: think Edwin Diaz here, let's talk a little bit more
Speaker 1: about Tylor Rodgers when we come back. I also wonder
Speaker 1: about the fatigue, or at least our fatigue with guys
Speaker 1: like Craig Kimberroll and Kenley Jansen. I think we could
Speaker 1: at least mentioned here. On the other side, we're also
Speaker 1: getting to the next year of guys. Guys I really like,
Speaker 1: I want to live in this next year because what
Speaker 1: I do put its here of guys that I'm pretty
Speaker 1: positive at the closers and that's what I'm looking for.
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Speaker 1: the VFF spotted some of your tweets and darks Edward
Speaker 1: days and I just wotted to Joe saying, hey, I
Speaker 1: have no problem with the d r RP. One I
Speaker 1: really don't have no problem is be my first closer
Speaker 1: off the board. If that's what the value is, he's
Speaker 1: my highest closure left, so also in that range, and
Speaker 1: imagine it going to break for guys like Kenley Jansen
Speaker 1: and Crank Kimbell. And I asked you Frank or post
Speaker 1: the question. These are just some fatigue with these guys
Speaker 1: because they've been around so long. Craik Kimbell signed in
Speaker 1: June of last year and it was very, very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And you talked last week a little bit about Kelly
Speaker 1: Jansen stuff not being what it once was, and Blake
Speaker 1: trying and possibly you serveyan Kenley Jannson at some point.
Speaker 1: The first question is who would you rather have between
Speaker 1: Kimberroll and Jansen. The second question is do you want either?
Speaker 1: I don't really want either. And I actually had this
Speaker 1: exact decision to make in one of my NFBC Draft
Speaker 1: Champions League so far, Greg and I wound up going
Speaker 1: with Kenley Jansen. But I think no matter who you
Speaker 1: go with there, you're not going to feel great about it. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, like the Yankees, expected to be one of
Speaker 1: the best teams this year, probably going to win a hundred,
Speaker 1: maybe more than a hundred games, but there is serious
Speaker 1: concern over Kenley Jansen. The e r A was, you know,
Speaker 1: the highest that that it's space it's ever been for
Speaker 1: Kenley Jansen. Last year. The velocity has been down in
Speaker 1: the second half. He allowed more line drives last year.
Speaker 1: The whip was the highest that has been for Kenley Jansen.
Speaker 1: Like we have legitimate concerns. There are a bunch of
Speaker 1: you know, warning signs when it comes to him. But again,
Speaker 1: I still think that he is the closer for his
Speaker 1: team right now, and obviously Dave Roberts has a ton
Speaker 1: of faith and trust in Kenley Jansen. But frankly, I
Speaker 1: do worry about the skills starting to erode a little
Speaker 1: bit here, Greg, But the fact that he plays for
Speaker 1: a really good team and you know he's gonna get
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. I think the least is
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty long. He's probably going to be safe
Speaker 1: for at least another thirty to thirty five saves, assuming
Speaker 1: he's healthy. He also has a heart condition. But I
Speaker 1: also think that, like I think Kimberall's job is even
Speaker 1: safer with the Chicago Cubs, like Kelly Johnson. We just
Speaker 1: talked about like training last week, right who's up next
Speaker 1: for the Cubs. Who's another guy that's going to be
Speaker 1: the guy? Steve c Scheck. Is that what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: D c Scheck is now with the White Sox, Pat
Speaker 1: Stroke is on the Cincinnati Reds. Jeremy je Ris Austin
Speaker 1: round but last year had an ear a over five right,
Speaker 1: So you want to know that the actual answer is
Speaker 1: that the one that people have been drafting is this
Speaker 1: gentleman named Rowan Wick is a two point four one
Speaker 1: point one four with thirty five strikeouts in thirty three
Speaker 1: innings pitched. He's the name. So that's the name that
Speaker 1: people are hand. I think Craig kimber full off season
Speaker 1: and give it a year younger than Kenley Jansen, but
Speaker 1: didn't have a brutal season as well, or second half
Speaker 1: of the second half was good, but the overall season
Speaker 1: was fine. Thirteen eight six or nine walked up ton
Speaker 1: of people. Ere was good. Extra was fine. I thought
Speaker 1: it was okay. I'm not having dove in this obviously.
Speaker 1: Freik Kimberll in the second half of eighteen had a
Speaker 1: four point five seven e r A for what that's worth.
Speaker 1: Greig thirty four strikeouts its whey one in two thirds
Speaker 1: an ex pitch. But I almost give him the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubts. I'm with you because last year he
Speaker 1: joins the Cubs late, he doesn't pitch until June. Because
Speaker 1: of all the draft compensation that was attached to Craig Kimbrill,
Speaker 1: and some people thought that he was overvaluing himself. He
Speaker 1: wanted to get paid some kind of monster contracts, similar
Speaker 1: to what role this Chapman got a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago from the Yankees. That was never going to happen
Speaker 1: for Craig Kimberle. But do you agree that both of
Speaker 1: these guys are adequately ranked like where they're going, So
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be valued the same way that they have
Speaker 1: been in years past my rankings. So who do you
Speaker 1: have just behind them? Liam? Here's Brad Hand and Ken Giles.
Speaker 1: You really don't like Ken Jiles? Huh, I guess we're
Speaker 1: not gonna get Ken Jiles. Basically he's the number one
Speaker 1: closer of number one closer target of mine. Really well,
Speaker 1: let's make it Robards number one. That's fine because I
Speaker 1: just mean based on you know, price versus upside and
Speaker 1: skill level. And I think, let me tell you the
Speaker 1: guy I have them of things there first day the
Speaker 1: guy had directly above them, and that's Taylor Rodgers, right,
Speaker 1: pitching for a really good Twins team. Really good stuff
Speaker 1: ran away with this closer's job last year. I understand
Speaker 1: that kind of came from nowhere, and he wasn't the
Speaker 1: guy we expected to be the closer for the Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 1: But if you trust the Taylor Rodgers can keep this
Speaker 1: job all season long. Rodgers is no grander pick here
Speaker 1: inside the top ten. Yeah, and that's if you trust it, right.
Speaker 1: And he was phenomenal last year, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: I mean to six one e r A with a
Speaker 1: one zero zero whip, he's actually done a two years
Speaker 1: in row. Greg, He's had a sub too six five
Speaker 1: e r A two years in a row. He's he
Speaker 1: had a zero point nine five whip in eighteen, a
Speaker 1: whip of right around one in twenty nineteen. And the
Speaker 1: strikeouts actually went up last year right around twelve case
Speaker 1: for nine. The command got better, the walks went down. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to like. Obviously, the Twins
Speaker 1: are expected to win a ton of games this upcoming season,
Speaker 1: and looking into Taylor Rodgers, I wanted to see, well,
Speaker 1: what are the splits because obviously he's a lefty and
Speaker 1: I want to see, no, is there any opportunity that
Speaker 1: he's just really good against lefties and kind of got
Speaker 1: hip hard by right He's Nope, there is no worry
Speaker 1: about that whatsoever. In fact, lefties were actually better against
Speaker 1: Taylor Rodgers than righties. He did a great job of
Speaker 1: neutralizing both two O eight batting average with a six
Speaker 1: eleven o p s against right handed batters last year.
Speaker 1: Greg he can handle both sides of the play. And
Speaker 1: there were a lot of these guys were naming. There's
Speaker 1: all these managerial changes, right, and team philosophy changes. It's
Speaker 1: not the case in Minnesota. It's the same exact management
Speaker 1: team that's been there. Sure, bench coach has gone and
Speaker 1: pitch coach has gone. In a bunch of play, those
Speaker 1: of these guys have gone, but same general manager, same
Speaker 1: president baseball operations, and Rockabadelli is still the manager for
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Twins. He named Taylor Rodgers the closer. He
Speaker 1: watched Taylor Rodgers get thirty saves for him last year.
Speaker 1: And yes, Trevor May is still there, and yes, ty
Speaker 1: Duffy is still there, and Sergio Romo is still there,
Speaker 1: and Tyler Clipper You're still there. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: Romo five years old, right, There's a lot of names.
Speaker 1: Five Taylor Rodgers proved himself for this crew last year.
Speaker 1: And that's why for me um he is number six
Speaker 1: and leam of him. Number six. As well, So I'm
Speaker 1: I like him. Why do we both like him over
Speaker 1: Leon Hendricks though, that's my question, Like I have it, well,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll tell you exactly why. Taylor Rodgers has
Speaker 1: now been an elite reliever for two years in a row,
Speaker 1: and Liam Hendricks has shown flashes. But what he did
Speaker 1: last year was something he had never done before and
Speaker 1: it was due to a velocity spike. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to downplay that, Like, if Liam Hendricks continues to
Speaker 1: have that velocity spike that he had last year and
Speaker 1: continues to get as many swinging strikes and strikeouts, then
Speaker 1: he is not going to be this year's Blake Trinan.
Speaker 1: And I don't want people to think that, oh, we're
Speaker 1: just making a lazy comparison, because it's the Oakland A's
Speaker 1: closers and they're both they were both being drafted, as
Speaker 1: you know, top five or even top ten options from
Speaker 1: one year to the next. But Liam Hendricks did things
Speaker 1: last year that he never did before. So I think
Speaker 1: you're okay to be skeptical of that performance and whether
Speaker 1: or not it's going to carry over from year to year,
Speaker 1: And if it does, then yeah, he's easily going to
Speaker 1: wind up being a top five closer because the a's
Speaker 1: are going to be gray. It's a good ballpark to
Speaker 1: pitching as well. Uh. And he showed us some of
Speaker 1: that upside last year, but again, you don't know if
Speaker 1: that velocity necessarily is going to carry over. And it
Speaker 1: was by far the best year of his career. He
Speaker 1: come through with him as your first closer, comfortable, ish,
Speaker 1: I have him at nine, just ahead of Kenley Jansen
Speaker 1: and Craig Kimbero. Ideally, I would want one of my
Speaker 1: top eight guys. That's the difference again between us Brad Hanna,
Speaker 1: ken Giles. But to me, again, I have a top eleven,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really matter to me. I just want one, really,
Speaker 1: one of these guys. Ideally, let's move on to the
Speaker 1: next ten or so, into the next tier, and mine's
Speaker 1: not necessarily the Fantasy pros the average Jeff rankings, because
Speaker 1: as I said, Frank, I want guys that I know
Speaker 1: you're going to be the closer, and that's what make
Speaker 1: up my next year. So I'll read in these names
Speaker 1: and you let me know your thoughts, right Nector Nurses
Speaker 1: in here, because I, as you know, I don't trust
Speaker 1: Hector Narius or the Phillies. Okay, well maybe Joe Giardi
Speaker 1: does Greg even probably not Brandon Workman, Alex klam A,
Speaker 1: Hans Robless. As we heard today and in Shawn's update,
Speaker 1: ricel Iglesias, Archie Bradley Way like a lot, who was
Speaker 1: a La clerk, Kiona Kela and Will Smith make up
Speaker 1: my next tier. I noticed that there's no Mr Anderson,
Speaker 1: there is there is no Nick Anderson. Well, we talked
Speaker 1: to it, Tam. We talked to the announcer, oh the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay race stats, and he's just like, I don't
Speaker 1: know Jose Alvarado and he's much closer to the the team
Speaker 1: than I am and you are. And this industry is
Speaker 1: we have no idea who the closing was. The closers
Speaker 1: are the race non zero. I'm not I'm not paying
Speaker 1: this price tag on a Nick Anderson, as good as
Speaker 1: this stuff can be, when the really the nine names
Speaker 1: that I just named, the eight names, they're all the closers.
Speaker 1: They've all been announced as the closers. Now, this is
Speaker 1: just betting on on the cream rising to the top, Craig,
Speaker 1: That's all it is. Would hear if you're drafting Nick
Speaker 1: Anderson because The reason you would do that is because
Speaker 1: he has. If you just look at his skills in
Speaker 1: terms of strikeout rate and everything that he posted last year,
Speaker 1: he was a top five, top ten reliever in baseball
Speaker 1: all around. Agree that he is going to be the
Speaker 1: best reliever in that pen and that they're going to
Speaker 1: value him as such in Tampa Bay this year. Then
Speaker 1: you could potentially have the top closer this season. He
Speaker 1: could be this year's Kirby Yates. He could be a
Speaker 1: year ago. At this time, we're talking about who's Alvarado
Speaker 1: a similar spot? Right? And look, I'm just playing Devil's
Speaker 1: still there. I'm just playing Devil's advocate because I'm probably
Speaker 1: not drafting Nick Anderson if he continued. Would be surprised
Speaker 1: to you, Frank, if game five of the regular season
Speaker 1: Nick Anderson starts for the rais why, probably be a
Speaker 1: little surprised. He didn't start any games last year, did he? No,
Speaker 1: he did not. They didn't use him as an opener
Speaker 1: last A full season with him change. I'm just not
Speaker 1: investing a high pick in a rate. I agree. I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I'm just playing Devil's ade. Skills are
Speaker 1: amazing when it comes to Nick and that's what people
Speaker 1: are looking at. It's worth men name. I am defending
Speaker 1: where I have it ranked. I brought this up to you.
Speaker 1: Matt Modica in the tout Wars draft and whole draft,
Speaker 1: took Nick Anderson in the ninth round, one closer after
Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz, two picks after Taylor Rodgers, and he took
Speaker 1: Nick Anderson ahead of Kenley Jansen. He took him a
Speaker 1: head of Brad Hand. He took him a head of
Speaker 1: Ken Giles. I will say everybody else, I will say
Speaker 1: that towt Wars, the NFBC, those are different. What you're
Speaker 1: trying to achieve is a little bit different. You're trying
Speaker 1: to win overall in the NFBC. Well, in tow Wars,
Speaker 1: it's just a team league. And you know, I mean
Speaker 1: there's no there's no overall components. So he's not like
Speaker 1: swinging for the fences. He literally just taught. He just
Speaker 1: took the best closer he thought was available, and that
Speaker 1: was Nick Anderson. I don't agree with Matt in that regard. Look,
Speaker 1: I think he has all the talent in the world,
Speaker 1: and there's a chance, you know, the guy has nine
Speaker 1: plus strikeouts this year, But how many says, what are
Speaker 1: you setting over under for saves that with him fifteen
Speaker 1: and a half exactly, and that's the problem. And then
Speaker 1: a lot of people get Frank's take on all these
Speaker 1: guys and what he's kind of next true looks like
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Speaker 1: to do this? Creek? I think I make the rules.
Speaker 1: I was about saying, there you go. All right? Um,
Speaker 1: I need a bunch of guys that are in my
Speaker 1: next year. Random Workman, Alex Coleman, Hans Rob Lass, Rice
Speaker 1: ell Iglesias, Archie Riley, jose La Clerk, Kella uh and
Speaker 1: Will Smith. I think I did these move Kiana Killa down. Um,
Speaker 1: there's my initial reaction here, but these are the guys
Speaker 1: that I feel really good about being being the closer
Speaker 1: for the respective teams not having a nice season. My
Speaker 1: next year includes Givanna Gagos, who we're speculating give me
Speaker 1: the closer, but Andrew Miller Ko wind up being there?
Speaker 1: I was rightis wind up with the closer, Carls Maartinez
Speaker 1: peop in the little pen. I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: more questions with the gayegos. Velocity down for Carlos Martinez
Speaker 1: over the weekend as well. Surprised he will not have
Speaker 1: on any of my teams. Hector Nerris, Joe Himenez, who stinks,
Speaker 1: uh Ian Kennedy. You know, I think you should rethink
Speaker 1: Joe him Man, E Kennedy, Wade Davis, my Man, Brandon Kinseler.
Speaker 1: You know, I like Brandon Kindler. Like Brandon Kinseler as
Speaker 1: well as a third option, not not a second closure neither.
Speaker 1: Washington guys like everybody loves Sean Doolittle, like Danny Hudson
Speaker 1: very well, maybe the closer there. I don't get the day,
Speaker 1: the little thing Tony Watson, maybe the cape caplosn't screw
Speaker 1: it up. And then of course the raised guys is
Speaker 1: the sky Blue Greg. Of course Gabe Kapler is gonna
Speaker 1: mess it up. And then whoever the closers in Seattle,
Speaker 1: which I asked you about. I was like, yeah, Matt
Speaker 1: McGill versus Yoshi Harano versus you know who else? They
Speaker 1: fine before opening day. So that's that's why, that's what
Speaker 1: my deal is. Yeah, that's Look, that's basically everybody, right,
Speaker 1: I'll try try everybody. I'll say this, Greig, I think
Speaker 1: you should rethink Joe him is and I think you
Speaker 1: should look into him. The reason being he had a
Speaker 1: four three seven e r A last year. He had
Speaker 1: a four one nine x fit. His skill interactive e
Speaker 1: r A was three point four one, and his underlying
Speaker 1: metrics were phenomenal percent swinging strike creed, thirty five percent
Speaker 1: chase rate. His sixty seven percent first strike percentage was
Speaker 1: also in the elite category. He throws hard, he has
Speaker 1: a fastball, he uses a slider, mixes in a change
Speaker 1: just barely, but over twelve case per nine. Greg, he's
Speaker 1: got to work on the walks a little bit here,
Speaker 1: But I think Joe Jimenez as a third closer. I
Speaker 1: don't want him as my second closer, but you know,
Speaker 1: in a similar range as a brand kinseler, I think
Speaker 1: someone I could get you more strikeouts. Both teams are
Speaker 1: not gonna be great. But when you introduced Jo him
Speaker 1: and as you said, he stinks, all right, so listen,
Speaker 1: I'll take that far back, but I feel good at that.
Speaker 1: I hadn't got Kiota Keller to the other crew. And
Speaker 1: then Brandon Workman really high, you're not worried about what
Speaker 1: anything going on with the Boston Red Sox because they
Speaker 1: were hesitant to give him that role basically all of
Speaker 1: last year, even with him being the best reliever on
Speaker 1: the staff than they did. And then Ron Rednecky said
Speaker 1: he's the closer. He has said that ready. I just
Speaker 1: think it's far from a short thing. He also walks
Speaker 1: a ton of batters too. Isn't his walk right like
Speaker 1: over five per nine enough? I've all just he does
Speaker 1: get He does get a lot of strikeouts. Right to
Speaker 1: last year, phase for nine Greg five point six five
Speaker 1: walks for nine for Brandon Workman one A right looks
Speaker 1: great thirty eight percent hard contact rate, the x fit
Speaker 1: over three Swingen strike right. Not nearly as good as
Speaker 1: Joe Himenes, Greg Chase right, not nearly as good as
Speaker 1: Joe him Is this I'm not gonna be in on
Speaker 1: Brandon Workman. I was just off the list. I was
Speaker 1: gonna move Will Smith up. Is he definitely the closer there?
Speaker 1: Will Smith is not the closer. Molansen has already been
Speaker 1: named the clothes. But it's one of those weird situations
Speaker 1: where Will Smith is the best reliever on in that
Speaker 1: bullpit down So it's it's like Josh Hayter from a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, where he wasn't the closer, but
Speaker 1: you knew he was the best reliever there, and he
Speaker 1: was always just kind of lingering. That's why you can't
Speaker 1: really draft Mark moll Anson with much confidence, because again,
Speaker 1: there's someone behind him who is better than him, who
Speaker 1: can get more strikeouts than him, doesn't walk as many
Speaker 1: batters as Mark Molanson does, and Mark Mollanson it seems
Speaker 1: like he's basically the closer just because he's making a
Speaker 1: lot of money. Greg so is Will Smith. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that they signed Will Smith thinking that
Speaker 1: he was going to be there fireman putting out the fires,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, seventh eighth inning whenever there's you know,
Speaker 1: the best hitters coming to a to the plate, or
Speaker 1: there's you know, a big jam to get out of.
Speaker 1: I think Will Smith is probably going to be used
Speaker 1: in that role because he is the best reliever in
Speaker 1: that pulpan. Right. So, then of the next tier of
Speaker 1: guys land and I named, who's your number one guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna you trust the most? Is Archie Bradley. I
Speaker 1: want to say Archie Bradley, but just because I don't
Speaker 1: think that there's anyone else there in Arizona that you
Speaker 1: know like you on Lopez. We knew about from last
Speaker 1: year with Brad Ziegler, right because Brad Ziegler put us
Speaker 1: put us on him. But last year, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: Joan Lopez was fine. He just doesn't get a lot
Speaker 1: of strikeouts. Forty two strikeouts and sixty one and a
Speaker 1: third endings pitch that's not gonna get it done. Hector
Speaker 1: Ron Done was fine last year. He has some closing experience.
Speaker 1: Junior Gara has you know, been around. He was with
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Brewers, former starter with the team, And so
Speaker 1: I think Archie Bradley is actually pretty safe here, Greg,
Speaker 1: but the whip one point four four for Archie Bradley
Speaker 1: last year and he struggles big time with walks. This
Speaker 1: is why, this is why all these guys are this
Speaker 1: next year. Right, That's that's obviously why um Hans Robles
Speaker 1: had a great year last year. Already named the closer
Speaker 1: by Joe Madden. You heard that from Seawoman earlier. Richell Glaciers,
Speaker 1: everyone was off last year. Maybe he should be the topic.
Speaker 1: I seear Archie Bradley four point five walks for nine,
Speaker 1: his highest since two thousand and fifteen. So really struggled
Speaker 1: with the command last year and he's swinging strike Greg,
Speaker 1: greg nine point six. That's below league average. Right, I
Speaker 1: want to like Archie Bradley. He's he's probably the name
Speaker 1: that I trust most at his next up on this
Speaker 1: list right to the Glaciers He's he's there as well.
Speaker 1: I think he's like just outside the top twelve. And
Speaker 1: there are a few other names, uh there. In Cincinnati
Speaker 1: when it comes to they signed Pedro Strop, who you
Speaker 1: know filled in at times with the with the Chicago Cubs.
Speaker 1: Mere Garret's a great reliever. He just hasn't been used
Speaker 1: as as the closer before. Michael Lorenzen is kind of
Speaker 1: like that two way player. I don't think he's actually
Speaker 1: like a threat to the closer's role. What about Alex
Speaker 1: Columnett thirty four saves for Rice Ley Glaciers last year.
Speaker 1: I probably feel better about Rice Ley Glaciers than I
Speaker 1: do callum Me. The underlying numbers for Columny were not good.
Speaker 1: You look at you know, all the skill indicators, and
Speaker 1: the x fit was not great, much higher than the
Speaker 1: e r A four Alex column A last year. And
Speaker 1: they just signed Aaron Bummer to an extension, five year extension,
Speaker 1: and I think that there is a chance that, like
Speaker 1: if column A struggles, I don't think that he's going
Speaker 1: to have that that long lash because that's a team
Speaker 1: is trying to compete and they want to now. And
Speaker 1: Aaron Bummer last year was ridiculous two point one three
Speaker 1: e r A zero point nine nine whip um he
Speaker 1: was great. He was actually better than Alex Collinmate. So
Speaker 1: column is someone who worries me. Doesn't get a ton
Speaker 1: of strikeouts either. Two more names are in this crew
Speaker 1: for me, hans A Robless and jose La clerk. Now
Speaker 1: we've mentioned Robles a few times on the show. The
Speaker 1: clerk was a top pick last year as the reliever,
Speaker 1: um and really let you down right. He lost his
Speaker 1: job in April, did Jose La Clerk, And he was
Speaker 1: my once three. He's my tenth or leven the closer
Speaker 1: off the board last year, right behind Curby Yates and
Speaker 1: I got lucky and I draft the Curby rates in
Speaker 1: most spots. Um, but whose the clerk was really liked
Speaker 1: last year? Lost his job very early right after signed
Speaker 1: that contract extension, struggle out of the year, eventually got
Speaker 1: his job back. It's already been announced he is the
Speaker 1: closer once again for Texas. It makes sense they just
Speaker 1: paid him, so he kind of has to be. Are
Speaker 1: you following the money here with Josi La Clerk? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's a he's a risky one as well.
Speaker 1: You want to like him because he has phenomenal strikeouts stuff,
Speaker 1: but struggles big time time with command as well. What
Speaker 1: I will say about Jose La Clark is that there's
Speaker 1: not much competition there. Like the setup man is Rafael Montero. Yes,
Speaker 1: that Rafael Montero, Greg the New York Mets. Rafael Montero.
Speaker 1: So I think that there is a good amount of
Speaker 1: job security here for the clerk still only twenty six
Speaker 1: years old. The strikeouts were great last year of over
Speaker 1: thirteen case per nine walks for nine five point one one. Greg.
Speaker 1: He's he's not gonna be a target of mine, Jose
Speaker 1: La Clark, He's not I thought he would be. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna be a target. There's a name that I
Speaker 1: found when Craig and I were doing like outside one
Speaker 1: thousand a DP in the UH in the NFBC. I
Speaker 1: think it's DeMarcus Evans. Look into this kid, Greg, because
Speaker 1: Marcus he's on the Texas Rangers. He's in there, he's
Speaker 1: in their farm system. Twenty three years old. He had
Speaker 1: twelve saves last year in the minor leagues between High
Speaker 1: A ball and Double A, and the strikeout numbers are
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. So that's like my dark horse, just shot
Speaker 1: in the dark throwing a name out there. Uh, DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Evans of the Texas Rangers. Pay attention to that name
Speaker 1: for the Rangers this year, La Clerk, He's going to
Speaker 1: be given the first opportunity. Greg, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: But I I worry about the command just he hasn't
Speaker 1: really shown the ability to uh to really harness that
Speaker 1: in and build off of that. I worry. I worry
Speaker 1: about the command and the walks when it comes to
Speaker 1: uh clerk, Is there is there anybody else that we
Speaker 1: haven't named that you want to get into? You know,
Speaker 1: you like Diegos? Is there anybody else? We have two
Speaker 1: minutes to go. You haven't got a chance to mention? Yeah,
Speaker 1: diagos Um. It's interesting just because he was a nasty
Speaker 1: reliever last year and we're trying to figure out what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with the Cardinals this year. Everyone's drafting
Speaker 1: Diegos like he is going to be the closer, but
Speaker 1: obviously Andrew Miller is still there. You mentioned that Greg
Speaker 1: Koni Kelly you mentioned is someone that I'm interested in,
Speaker 1: but could be traded halfway through the season. The Pirates
Speaker 1: are not going to be are not expected to be
Speaker 1: competitive this upcoming season. Kyle Crik is the next name up.
Speaker 1: Find Koni Killer to pay attention to their I've been
Speaker 1: drafting a lot of the raise guys, just like in
Speaker 1: some of these deeper drafts not named Nick Anderson. But
Speaker 1: what about what about taking Alvarado, I mean twelve team draft,
Speaker 1: you want that third closer Randy Kinseler. Randy Kinsler see,
Speaker 1: I mean we can put him on the list. He's
Speaker 1: going to be the closers for the Marlins. They don't
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money. They sign him to a
Speaker 1: one year, four million dollar contract. Randy Kinseler is going
Speaker 1: to be the closest bbff IS draft and Randi Kinsler
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