Speaker 1: Wake that ass up early in the morning.
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in Steed j n v
Speaker 2: Ess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: You got some special guests.
Speaker 1: In the building.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed we got the Alchemists.
Speaker 2: We got Larry June and two Chains. Welcome album. Life
Speaker 2: is beautiful as out right now.
Speaker 4: Early Album of the Year contend. It's still early. It's
Speaker 4: only February. Early Album of the Year contender. Man, I
Speaker 4: appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Change came in here, like, where's my picture on the wall?
Speaker 2: I'm walking around here? But his picture is right there.
Speaker 1: Next thing.
Speaker 3: They got his feet up, He got his feet up there.
Speaker 5: No, I hadn't been to this location.
Speaker 3: It's the first time here.
Speaker 5: It's my first.
Speaker 3: It's been a minute since you've been up here.
Speaker 1: So how y'all brother's feeling feeling good? How about you?
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 4: Change had to make the wall number one of your legend.
Speaker 4: That's number one. But number two Chains was the first,
Speaker 4: the first breakfast club show we ever did. Oh boy,
Speaker 4: and the first person say anything was too changed? How'd
Speaker 4: you get two chains around?
Speaker 6: Matter?
Speaker 2: You were here so at the time, we didn't have
Speaker 2: no money right, so to change did it for the love?
Speaker 3: And Charlemagne was supposed to handle transpen what.
Speaker 7: Change was red hot?
Speaker 4: I mean red hot like early too early in carnal?
Speaker 4: What's the word in car nations of two change? You
Speaker 4: don't know what red hat? But Charlamage was supposed to
Speaker 4: handle car service. Charlamagne man had a car. Charlamage didn't
Speaker 4: say it was a caravan, picked up two changes in
Speaker 4: the caravan.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes he did.
Speaker 7: You just thought that was cool. I had the money.
Speaker 8: But you're supposed to let a nigga know a van
Speaker 8: gonna come pick him up, and not a black.
Speaker 7: I don't know they was going in a van. I
Speaker 7: thought they had asked yourself.
Speaker 2: But change that he never he never did, never play
Speaker 2: and always never talked.
Speaker 1: About alwayshows love.
Speaker 7: We always appreciate that, Sir three link up for this album.
Speaker 1: How we do it?
Speaker 6: Well, let me see, I know Larry and I work
Speaker 6: together before. I'm a fan of his music. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. He a player. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: I'm a player and I don't know. We had a
Speaker 6: conversation like just about doing a couple of records. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and he's somebody that is into like cohesiveness and everything.
Speaker 6: So he was like, we just need to do one producer.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, We're gonna rob with Al
Speaker 6: And it just started becoming like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Every time a song was finished, it started to becoming
Speaker 6: just dope and dope, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 6: I felt like, man, we probably ain't do about six
Speaker 6: seven more, you know what I'm saying. And before you
Speaker 6: knew it is like what he said, the early contender
Speaker 6: for album.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And how did Alchemists get to play? Why was
Speaker 2: he the producer? Why he was the one that's like,
Speaker 2: this is the sound we want for this?
Speaker 9: We had we were already working like we've been talking
Speaker 9: for a while. We had a couple of records in motion,
Speaker 9: like the last couple of years, and.
Speaker 6: I've been working with Al but with me a lot
Speaker 6: of my projects, they would have different producers, so I
Speaker 6: would have two or three our type joints on it
Speaker 6: feel good, but people would just kind of go towards
Speaker 6: the party records or the trap records. So it felt
Speaker 6: good for me just to do what I really like
Speaker 6: to do best is and that's a.
Speaker 4: Rapt Those real hip hop beat, that boom battle you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 7: That sun done.
Speaker 1: Yo yo yo?
Speaker 7: What about those type of that sound energizes your pen.
Speaker 6: My voice is able to cut through on samples. With
Speaker 6: the trap drums, I'll be having to like kind of
Speaker 6: yell a little bit. I can sit down and record.
Speaker 6: When I'm doing these songs, I'll be having to stand
Speaker 6: up record trap songs and then and I'd be having
Speaker 6: to kind of be creative and sometimes it hit it
Speaker 6: and sometimes it miss but I have to be creative
Speaker 6: around the drums and kind of peek my head out.
Speaker 6: But with those loops and things like that, I'm able
Speaker 6: just to get my idea across looser.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you get looser because it's like it's just a
Speaker 9: phil at it's not like you know, like it's kind
Speaker 9: of understated the production, so at least room for like
Speaker 9: the lyricists, like if you if you got something to
Speaker 9: say on those type of beats, you're gonna flourish, you know,
Speaker 9: change Larry there, those type of mcs like less is more.
Speaker 10: It's found on that like a file a like yeah,
Speaker 10: like a raw versus like a stacked up like I
Speaker 10: would compare like a track to something that's layered up
Speaker 10: on the vocals.
Speaker 1: Some of these are kind of just.
Speaker 9: Raw and it's just like a mood, you know what
Speaker 9: I mean, where it's like they're just to just to
Speaker 9: move their pens.
Speaker 11: So it's like the focus is on the lyricists.
Speaker 9: And you know, I mean change, I don't. He's been
Speaker 9: one the people who know music. No to Change has
Speaker 9: always been top tier with the pen like, but he
Speaker 9: always had the knack to make hit records too, you know,
Speaker 9: but that never fooled me, Like I could tell the
Speaker 9: MC's like a big Sean or somebody who's like, yo,
Speaker 9: he makes shit records, but he can rap like extremely well, like.
Speaker 11: With anybody who you would put on any list, you know.
Speaker 8: So so that's your comference on the trap is not
Speaker 8: really a trap you just do for us?
Speaker 6: He ain't really no, So of course I trapped before, right,
Speaker 6: and even on this type of subject matter, I talk
Speaker 6: about the streets and the trap. But early on I'm
Speaker 6: always throw Tech under the bus for this.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: Early on, I was doing a mixtape. It was called
Speaker 6: all Ice on Meal. It was a double.
Speaker 5: Mixtape, and I had who doing was it? It was
Speaker 5: you and who else? It was him? A screen, and
Speaker 5: then I gave Tech like some my your.
Speaker 6: Kids stuff, and he was like, boy, I don't want
Speaker 6: I want some boy, give me some of that trap.
Speaker 6: And then when I gave some of that trap, he
Speaker 6: came back with like data saying, boy, I'm telling you
Speaker 6: they rocking with this right here. So he was more
Speaker 6: as a manager, more data driven as far as like
Speaker 6: what the people were kind of leaning towards. When I
Speaker 6: would drop a project that had some some lyrics and
Speaker 6: some trap stuff, you know what I mean. But you know,
Speaker 6: I'm in this thing to like to show growth anyway
Speaker 6: and to show that anything's possible.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I ain't get my meeting
Speaker 5: Stiles after thirty.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I'm still out here having
Speaker 6: more motion in the ocean. I'm saying, business is doing good.
Speaker 6: The rap's gonna come out. We're gonna talk about how
Speaker 6: we got these businesses in this passive income going. We're
Speaker 6: gonna popy like that. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 6: ain't spending no blocks. I ain't got time to go
Speaker 6: to jail, leave my family. I ain't no more crash
Speaker 6: dummy mission. You could never get me like that. So
Speaker 6: it's just like I just stay out the way. I'm very,
Speaker 6: very highly confident in everything I do, and so that's
Speaker 6: my comfort zone, knowing it when I walk in the room,
Speaker 6: my chin up, my chest.
Speaker 5: I don't like that, you know what I'm saying. Like, man,
Speaker 5: God did his thing with me.
Speaker 1: Now, you like to collaborate a lot.
Speaker 2: Change Like it feels like you like competing, right, whether
Speaker 2: it's early on with Drake or it's with Wayne, it's
Speaker 2: with Larry ju And why is that you never fall back?
Speaker 2: You always seemed like you want to do that more.
Speaker 6: I think Atlanta is a place that we just are
Speaker 6: into doing collaborations, you know what I'm saying. Atlanta artists
Speaker 6: always we always work together and work with different people.
Speaker 6: We never had that problem, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 6: like I said, respect Larry, I wanted I wanted to
Speaker 6: do this project. It wasn't Larry idea. I like, we
Speaker 6: ought to do this, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 6: I was just I wanted to do it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just letting you know. Like I mean, I
Speaker 6: go to Vegas, I go to Miami. I tell DJ
Speaker 6: Man put on that smoothie. In nineteen ninety one. I
Speaker 6: tell him, I want to hear that before I get
Speaker 6: out of here, you know what I'm saying. So it
Speaker 6: was just about it was just genuine organic like his campaign.
Speaker 6: It was just organic love, and so it.
Speaker 12: Came organic too though it wasn't even We didn't think
Speaker 12: too much about it just kind of came. Yeah, he
Speaker 12: had a few records, sent it to me and then
Speaker 12: we just kept that ship rocking.
Speaker 1: It was real smooth.
Speaker 7: What I like about you you wrap about.
Speaker 4: You wrap about a lot of health and in organic living,
Speaker 4: Like what got you into a mindfulness lifestyle and what
Speaker 4: made you start putting that in your music?
Speaker 12: You know, I started a little like I dropped my
Speaker 12: first mixtape when I was fifteen. I was kind of
Speaker 12: talking about a lot of shit that I wouldn't really
Speaker 12: like fully into. Then I had just tuned into my
Speaker 12: real what I was into and like my actual life,
Speaker 12: and when I saw I wrap about my day to day
Speaker 12: shit to just start working for me, you know what
Speaker 12: I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like him. I didn't make no.
Speaker 12: Bread into to my thirties really too, so you know,
Speaker 12: I had they go through the ups and downs and
Speaker 12: really finding myself as an artists, and when I start
Speaker 12: talking about the shit that I really like to do,
Speaker 12: it just kind of start coming natural for me.
Speaker 7: So early on you had a lot of cap in
Speaker 7: your app.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 12: I was fifteen sixteen, you know, I just kind of
Speaker 12: more influenced by the hip hop, you know what I mean,
Speaker 12: and the shit you know what I mean. And it's
Speaker 12: finding myself as an artist, you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: And when I start doing that and really like fall
Speaker 12: on like what I want to do and start working out.
Speaker 4: Did somebody tell you how did you just check yourself?
Speaker 4: Did somebody be like, come on, nobody.
Speaker 12: Didn't tell me I was around all that. You know,
Speaker 12: I'm from that, you know what kind of that was
Speaker 12: like my my environment and shit. But it was just
Speaker 12: more like what can I bring different to the game?
Speaker 12: I was like, you know, it's only one me. I
Speaker 12: can talk about my life and what I do and
Speaker 12: people will relate to it.
Speaker 1: Some people might not, you know, people will. I'm thankful
Speaker 1: that some people do.
Speaker 4: You talk about financial literacy a lot too, which is
Speaker 4: interesting because you know, to chains he talks about flexing
Speaker 4: a lot, right so and spending a lot.
Speaker 7: So how did that you know?
Speaker 12: Mention the studio, Uh, listening to a lot of audio books,
Speaker 12: you know in high school, like you know, Robert Kolsaki
Speaker 12: and shit like and stuff like that, and just just
Speaker 12: trying to do better, you know what I mean, coming
Speaker 12: from that environment, and you know, just trying to switch
Speaker 12: it up and do something different and have longevity in
Speaker 12: my career. So I start knowledging myself about things like
Speaker 12: that and just you know, put it into the music,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean, and letting people know, not
Speaker 12: the major and minor things.
Speaker 1: But I still I still flex.
Speaker 12: I talk about shit, my fleck's a little different, you know,
Speaker 12: I might talk about a fifteen dollars orange juice some
Speaker 12: ship like that. I'm just saying about hop out with
Speaker 12: the lawsuit to the side, very peacefully.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Now you.
Speaker 8: Got a bunch of singles that you drop on like
Speaker 8: different platforms like streaming platforms and then YouTube exclusive, how
Speaker 8: do you like figure out what's going drop where?
Speaker 11: Because in different places.
Speaker 1: So when I do it, just the YouTube, I just
Speaker 1: put it out.
Speaker 12: I don't think too much about it, just put it
Speaker 12: out just more just for the for the fans, and uh,
Speaker 12: just keeping it going. I don't really think I don't
Speaker 12: think too much about it. I talked to day, but
Speaker 12: just do it, like, let's do it, do whatever we feel.
Speaker 12: I don't really think too much about it.
Speaker 7: What do you like about Larry is an MC?
Speaker 9: I mean when you know, first linking with him, it
Speaker 9: was like first like the tone, you know, like I
Speaker 9: go off of music, you know, like obviously Resting Peace
Speaker 9: Prodigy that was like my brother. We did a lot
Speaker 9: of music together and sometimes it's just like the tone,
Speaker 9: it's just something similar to her with Body James or
Speaker 9: it was like Larry tone was crazy. And then I
Speaker 9: was actually late. Once I got hip to his shit,
Speaker 9: it was like he was deep in. I had to
Speaker 9: go back and like, do you know because like with
Speaker 9: Larry's music, you could you need a tour guy because
Speaker 9: he got so many different styles, like it just depends
Speaker 9: who takes you through it, you know, the right way.
Speaker 9: And it was like I dug into his music and
Speaker 9: was like, Okay, I figured out after a while, Okay,
Speaker 9: I feel I felt like I could make something that'll
Speaker 9: fit to it, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 9: when we started working we did like one joint. I
Speaker 9: think it was j Worthy who linked us up and
Speaker 9: then it sounded good and for me, if I if
Speaker 9: I can get one, it sounds good.
Speaker 1: You know the Monico joints. Yeah, for your album Go Joint.
Speaker 9: Before we did Great Escape, we did one joint for
Speaker 9: his album, and it was like, I felt like there
Speaker 9: was potential because sometimes you do one record with somebody
Speaker 9: and it's like one and done, and sometimes you.
Speaker 1: Build a better relationship.
Speaker 9: Plus just like my brother now, Larry is super likable,
Speaker 9: like he's just one of the coolest movies, just my brother.
Speaker 9: So you know, in music you build relationships sometimes beyond
Speaker 9: how long did.
Speaker 7: This this project take?
Speaker 8: Because I saw an interview you said if you Larry,
Speaker 8: you said, rapping gives you anxiety?
Speaker 1: Uh, with that?
Speaker 12: Working with Change he changed that. But he worked so
Speaker 12: quick and he owned he on my phone with a verse.
Speaker 12: With a Verse, I had to switch my whole program
Speaker 12: up so that this was pretty quick, you know what
Speaker 12: I mean. We got a few records we didn't put
Speaker 12: out yet, and it was I ain't I was keeping
Speaker 12: up with Change. I ain't got he was. He was
Speaker 12: giving me the sauce, and I was see what I
Speaker 12: can do? Me come different on here. So like working
Speaker 12: with chains and al like definitely took me out my element,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean, different patterns and uh topics
Speaker 12: and and it's making me a better m C.
Speaker 1: I'm very thankful.
Speaker 7: Is that pressure of that pressure line by the verse.
Speaker 12: It ain't it ain't pressure. It's more like I'm just
Speaker 12: I'm getting better, you know what I mean. And he
Speaker 12: he are real lyricists. He really really do this ship
Speaker 12: so like he give me like styles and I ain't
Speaker 12: even thought about even doing me rap like this and
Speaker 12: try this and just putting me in a different box.
Speaker 12: Just like when I did the Great Escape with you,
Speaker 12: I was telling him like, man, I love these beast dudes.
Speaker 1: He was putting me you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: He made I think he made us both step up
Speaker 9: just because of the level that changes as an artist
Speaker 9: and as perfection. It's like we went out to Atlanta
Speaker 9: and got to work with him in his lab and
Speaker 9: just got to like get his energy in his world.
Speaker 9: That was like is different, super impressive, like sleepy in
Speaker 9: his in his city. It's like I went home like
Speaker 9: as a different animals just seeing his operation like change
Speaker 9: is a mastermind. So both of us going out there
Speaker 9: seeing his operation in Atlanta was like super motivating like heah,
Speaker 9: we gotta.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 4: I feel like Wayne was on you like that change.
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like I can see you
Speaker 4: and Wayne working together and Wayne hitting you up, like
Speaker 4: where is the verse?
Speaker 7: The song is done?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: This was men and Wayne?
Speaker 1: We this we was.
Speaker 6: That's why I was on him like that because I'm
Speaker 6: used to Wayne shooting it right back. I'm used to
Speaker 6: thinking I'm finna smoke this guy. And he sent it
Speaker 6: back with just some crazy shit with wind level and
Speaker 6: some lyrics and and so it was just like telling Larry,
Speaker 6: just don't they don't overthink it, like you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. So with man Toune, we actually have hundreds
Speaker 6: of we work really fast together. He's someone that I
Speaker 6: can go on. I can go in the booth with
Speaker 6: half an idea and finish it up. What's like getting
Speaker 6: a booth and then Wayne and going to the booth
Speaker 6: with the whole idea. So he'll just want to take
Speaker 6: the whole thing all the way through. So it's just
Speaker 6: different rhyme styles. But actually working with him has made
Speaker 6: me a better artist, like he said I did for him.
Speaker 6: So it's cool to be able to like trinkle down
Speaker 6: and pass that energy on because me doing two projects
Speaker 6: with Wayne, I'd be lying if I say I ain't
Speaker 6: get better. You know what I'm saying right rocking with him?
Speaker 2: You know, I was gonna ask you what you mentioned
Speaker 2: earlier with Prodigy two questions with that, Are you surprised
Speaker 2: about how much love that Prodigy is getting now in
Speaker 2: the last couple of years.
Speaker 11: I feel like people are.
Speaker 2: Dissecting what he's been saying, and I think they missed
Speaker 2: it before. I've been seeing it more and more and
Speaker 2: more recently.
Speaker 9: I always felt like that was gonna happen, like they
Speaker 9: become like more legendary after, you know, because they did
Speaker 9: so much work.
Speaker 11: It was like insane and you could just peel.
Speaker 9: Back layers of prodigies rhymes like he went so far,
Speaker 9: he was so ahead of his time that it's like
Speaker 9: and even them, it's funny them being small too.
Speaker 11: I always felt like them being.
Speaker 9: These two little guys, like they would be rediscovered in
Speaker 9: twenty years by some young kids like mob Deep, Like
Speaker 9: if some kids finds them in twenty years, they're gonna
Speaker 9: hit it, strike a gold mine. Like their discography is
Speaker 9: like unmatched, and you know, yeah, I mean Pea's legend
Speaker 9: lives like he did more than the average person while
Speaker 9: he was here and even left behind a lot of stuff.
Speaker 11: So we're lucky enough to be working on a new
Speaker 11: mob deep project.
Speaker 3: There's another we have change.
Speaker 9: It looked like what doing the beats and you know
Speaker 9: Nas is.
Speaker 1: Involved, and yeah, man, it feels.
Speaker 9: Great, just even just like when you hear his voice again,
Speaker 9: you're gonna be like, wow, missed you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 9: Like how much we missed it. It's a void just
Speaker 9: not hearing his voice anymore.
Speaker 4: The Metro reach out to you because when he was inspired,
Speaker 4: it seemed like Prodigy inspired couple of projects.
Speaker 9: I reached out to him actually and thanked him for
Speaker 9: that because I thought that was so dope. When they
Speaker 9: sampled his voice throughout the album, just kept his spiritual
Speaker 9: That was just super and.
Speaker 11: Plus you know him in Future had a little bit
Speaker 11: of history as well.
Speaker 3: In Future were cool.
Speaker 9: There's a video that they never came out with that
Speaker 9: p is in actually a Future video and that it
Speaker 9: never came I forget what song it was, but they
Speaker 9: were they were cool.
Speaker 6: It was a dope contrast artists with creation from Somebody
Speaker 6: is Ship Poppers Pope.
Speaker 9: But I think we're keeping the tradition alive even doing this,
Speaker 9: that's doing you know me coming from you know, you
Speaker 9: know where my history and then Lincoln with somebody like
Speaker 9: Change and Larry and just bringing it all together.
Speaker 3: You know you have a bar when when you That
Speaker 3: was my secon question.
Speaker 2: Do you have a bar of artists that you work with,
Speaker 2: like you be like I'm not working with him because
Speaker 2: it's just this doesn't fit or is it like I
Speaker 2: give everybody opportunity like Larry Jewel fists chains fists, but
Speaker 2: certain one somebody.
Speaker 3: Else might not fit.
Speaker 13: That might say you I need alchemists a beat cool,
Speaker 13: but yeah, certain artists fit more where I feel like
Speaker 13: I could make whole projects with like you know, Rock Marcy,
Speaker 13: you know Body, James, Larry, June to Change.
Speaker 11: Of course, Prodigy and I. You know I do have
Speaker 11: some like repeat you know friends that I work with.
Speaker 6: I told I told him I'm making my pop producer
Speaker 6: by rocking with me when we had them conversation like nah,
Speaker 6: you know low key underground like boys stop make yes
Speaker 6: pop out here.
Speaker 9: But I think I get the jacket put on me
Speaker 9: sometimes and be in this like purist, keep it real
Speaker 9: hip hop I'm really not that.
Speaker 11: I don't I love music.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be put in a box. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be limited.
Speaker 9: Even when we did Generations, you know, join on the
Speaker 9: album at first, Change was like he didn't even want
Speaker 9: to hear any.
Speaker 11: Of those beats because we started that record together.
Speaker 6: First, and he was like, I don't want those shorty
Speaker 6: alchemists trapped men.
Speaker 9: Because to me, I have different bags I go into
Speaker 9: depending on the artist. Like if you listen to the
Speaker 9: rock Marshy O My Day last December, those beats sound
Speaker 9: nothing like these, so I know how to like kind
Speaker 9: of create different palettes. But that joint at first, Change
Speaker 9: was like, we're gonna use this for something else. And
Speaker 9: then we thought about it and was like, you know what,
Speaker 9: we should add that into the album because it's like it's.
Speaker 11: Blending the sounds a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I'm not a purist. I'm not
Speaker 1: like I hate that other stuff. Keep it real hip hop.
Speaker 11: I love all good and it's bad, you know, in
Speaker 11: every category.
Speaker 7: To me, I love that song Generations.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: The hook is we the Generation got all these kids
Speaker 4: on the Dirty Spry, We the Generation got got them
Speaker 4: on the Perkys every night with the generation got them
Speaker 4: on switches. What was the conversation about that hook? Because
Speaker 4: Larry you from that generation, I was influenced by a
Speaker 4: lot of that, So I know y'all had to have
Speaker 4: a conversation about that song.
Speaker 1: Man is the truth.
Speaker 6: It just it just when you look at you know
Speaker 6: how it is. You know, everybody you get a little older,
Speaker 6: they try to unk you to death. They try to
Speaker 6: you know, they try to drink most syrup and you
Speaker 6: to death. They try to smoke more whatever than you
Speaker 6: to death. You got to be like, bro, we do
Speaker 6: want to.
Speaker 3: Turn y'all out.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: We the one got y'all. It's like when I go
Speaker 6: back and I listen to somebody like eight Ball and
Speaker 6: m JG. Who I came up on. They had songs
Speaker 6: like robbery. They had me lurking, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: And so it's the same thing that I know. If
Speaker 6: it wasn't a music, it's the videos. It's the lone
Speaker 6: blunts and videos we had. It's the double cup this stuff, y'all.
Speaker 6: Daddy was attracted too. And then y'all come up and well,
Speaker 6: not y'all, I'm just talking about in general. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, some people come up and so that's
Speaker 6: what the generation idea came from. Like we kind of
Speaker 6: the generation that kind of might have messed up some stuff,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: lack of parental advisory going on nowadays, so you know,
Speaker 6: lack of church, God and everything, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So that's where the idea for generation. So how do
Speaker 4: you course correct that though? Or do you even try
Speaker 4: to cause correct? Do you just acknowledge it a I
Speaker 4: know we did that.
Speaker 6: I think you just acknowledge it for me, you know,
Speaker 6: you know, I know it takes more than one person
Speaker 6: to try to save the world, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: And so trying to be, you know, a frontline soldier
Speaker 6: was just not my idea for this. It was just
Speaker 6: more like finding a creative way to say we started
Speaker 6: a lot of what's.
Speaker 5: Going on right And it could go both ways too.
Speaker 9: That's why I thought the hook was dope because it
Speaker 9: could be positive or negative like we the generation didn't,
Speaker 9: or it could be like an admission of gilt and growth.
Speaker 1: Yo, I'm sorry, Yeah, it's growth about where his kids
Speaker 1: and his businesses too.
Speaker 12: But he also let you know where he came from
Speaker 12: and where he you know, his growth, but you know,
Speaker 12: he young and that's the environment he was in, and uh,
Speaker 12: he letting you know where he at now.
Speaker 1: He talking about the LLCs and things like that.
Speaker 12: So I see, I look at it as growth, like
Speaker 12: you know what I mean, we the generation, but you
Speaker 12: know what I'm saying, look at me now, like I
Speaker 12: got multiple businesses, like I'm taking care of my kids
Speaker 12: and my coaching, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I thought it was dope.
Speaker 4: The next generation is more prone to listen to somebody
Speaker 4: who went through it too and survived it than they
Speaker 4: are to somebody who's just telling them they don't do
Speaker 4: this and that. But you didn't go through none of that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's back back in October, you had a I know,
Speaker 8: I was saying, you wasn't with def jam no more.
Speaker 8: He wasn't going to resign you a free agent?
Speaker 5: Is that still? Yeah?
Speaker 6: This was my first independent produ jack that I've dropped,
Speaker 6: like I don't know, man, uh, twenty since twenty maybe
Speaker 6: eleven or something, twenty ten, I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: tweeny twelve of my first boats, but I was signed
Speaker 6: a couple of months before that. But yeah, this was
Speaker 6: my first independent project. I just wanted to kind of
Speaker 6: like test the waters. I don't have anything against step Jam.
Speaker 6: I've been with them over a decade. Found you know.
Speaker 6: It was it's ups and downs and everything, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But at the same time, I built
Speaker 6: a lot of relationships, you know. It was this was
Speaker 6: just kind of stuff right here, it's just a phone call.
Speaker 6: You can get up here and stuff like that. Don't
Speaker 6: nobody have to set up my New York promo or
Speaker 6: anything like that, you know what I mean. So it
Speaker 6: was just about getting out here, you know. And it's
Speaker 6: it's it's it's for me the best of both words.
Speaker 6: I had some great things happening on the major side,
Speaker 6: and now I'm learning how to operate in the independent space.
Speaker 5: And it's it's freedom.
Speaker 1: Do you like it? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Because like they was like we need to drop this
Speaker 6: next month. I was like, we can do it this
Speaker 6: next week, Like we need to They was looking on
Speaker 6: it was like Christmas. They was like we need to
Speaker 6: come next the end of January. Then I started being like,
Speaker 6: damn boy, this empire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you also got money to change. Like everybody
Speaker 4: can't be independent. That's the part of the independence. Folks
Speaker 4: don't talk about. You got to have the paper.
Speaker 5: The paper ain't no, yeah, you the budget. Now, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I ain't fully wrapped my head around need to take
Speaker 6: what was calling me about the faults and.
Speaker 5: Fifties and sixties. We just we just chilled.
Speaker 7: They can't get.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 5: Is like it just be different when you plan. You
Speaker 5: know how it is. I describe it.
Speaker 6: You know, when you have somebody else money, I describe
Speaker 6: it like this. I just I described like when you
Speaker 6: get a run a car, you don't never like stop
Speaker 6: up a speed marks, you just jump them.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 5: You get your own car, you do like a you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, you do like a thing. So
Speaker 5: when you got other.
Speaker 6: People money, you're more reckless, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm trying to say. You got all people
Speaker 6: money for me, I'm not gonna, you know, fuck up
Speaker 6: the bag. But I might be a little bit more reckless.
Speaker 1: But when it's my.
Speaker 3: Money, you go over that speed mass low.
Speaker 6: The difference between having your own studio and paying for
Speaker 6: studio time. When you have your own studio, you can work,
Speaker 6: go to sleep, come back when you're paying for studio time.
Speaker 6: In my opinion, you ain't even got time to go pee.
Speaker 6: You got the guy, damn this working you got you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, came in here. So that just
Speaker 6: been my mindset to be efficient.
Speaker 7: So what do you like more?
Speaker 3: Major?
Speaker 6: I haven't been independent, you said October, So not even
Speaker 6: six months yet. But for this to be my first
Speaker 6: independent project, I'm geek now, but this to be my
Speaker 6: first and then you know me come this way, I'm
Speaker 6: kind of it looks like a Rin benvention of Bantonio.
Speaker 1: You know. You know.
Speaker 11: When you spend other people's money, steal your money, they
Speaker 11: gotta pay it back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's probably why I'm so officient.
Speaker 3: This time around. Them numbers matter because it's it's a
Speaker 3: whole different game for me.
Speaker 6: I kind of ain't been stunning numbers for a long
Speaker 6: time because, like I'm gonna be real, I don't own
Speaker 6: me or my team were not. We so late to
Speaker 6: the back party and the streaming party. Once you hear
Speaker 6: about it and who doing and all that stuff, you
Speaker 6: kind of get discouraged. Like, man, you know a lot
Speaker 6: of people are helping themselves or whatever you want to
Speaker 6: call it, or cheating or whatever it's called. But then
Speaker 6: I think about how I go in the studio nightly
Speaker 6: I come up with this stuff. Nobody's beside me helping
Speaker 6: me come up with the hood Nobody. I don't know
Speaker 6: if this is smarter or not. No want has helped
Speaker 6: me write something to I don't know what it is.
Speaker 6: But I'm able to go in and still come up
Speaker 6: with a dope idea every single night. That's what gives
Speaker 6: me the life I got with this stuff, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Other than that, I think, you know,
Speaker 6: I'll probably be somewhere else with it. But me knowing
Speaker 6: I can go tonight and make a make something incredible,
Speaker 6: That's what got me.
Speaker 7: You're a jone company right from the beginning.
Speaker 12: I will Warner Brothers in like twenty seventeen for like
Speaker 12: two years, did a couple of EPs with them, and
Speaker 12: then I went like fully distro kid like a couple
Speaker 12: of years, like just straight on the cell phone app.
Speaker 1: And then my team Double Empire. Would you do you
Speaker 1: like execution?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 12: I like independent. I can get to go drop sit
Speaker 12: whenever I want to do it. I don't got to
Speaker 12: think too much about it. I don't look at the
Speaker 12: numbers at all. I might say it a lot, but
Speaker 12: I just put it out. It's more like a long
Speaker 12: term game for me. It's like like buying stocks in yourself.
Speaker 12: Like we're putting the music out there. It's streaming. You know,
Speaker 12: you're streaming that. You gotta just click that button. It's coming.
Speaker 12: So it's like stocks. I'm putting that ship out.
Speaker 1: Either go like it or you don't like it.
Speaker 8: But it's not about acknowledge about your art.
Speaker 1: You all gotta go platinum and and that I would
Speaker 1: love to, you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: But I'm just keeping it going, just keeping it going
Speaker 12: and expressing my mind through through the music and people
Speaker 12: relating to it.
Speaker 1: And I don't think nothing of it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 8: And then tonight you'll performing Jimmy fallon show.
Speaker 11: This is your first first time, my first time.
Speaker 1: It's crazy legendary.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm over here looking around, like, damn.
Speaker 4: The game, Larry, because I mean, you got such a
Speaker 4: good head on your shoulders. Mar Like I said, you
Speaker 4: talk about financial literacy, you talk about mindfulness. One of
Speaker 4: the balls I love on this album. You say I
Speaker 4: never had a bitch that was hard to keep found out,
Speaker 4: found one solid hole.
Speaker 1: Was all I need.
Speaker 4: I'm like, for such a young man to understand that,
Speaker 4: especially the lifestyle you live, it's found on that line for.
Speaker 1: Me just from you know, you know, I have my
Speaker 1: kid early nineteen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: You know, I was forcing this to have been a
Speaker 12: single father very early and now it just kind of
Speaker 12: changed my mindset on even like having women around period. Like,
Speaker 12: you know, my son ain't been around multiple women at all,
Speaker 12: so it was like it just showing him like I'm
Speaker 12: not married and nothing like that.
Speaker 1: So he never really got to see see that.
Speaker 12: So I have to always like let him know that, look,
Speaker 12: I'm not married like this, but it's it's good to
Speaker 12: get married.
Speaker 1: You know, I have one person that you're dealing with.
Speaker 12: And I wouldn't always like that, But as I got older,
Speaker 12: I started understanding, like, man, one solid woman can change everything.
Speaker 7: You know, you say older, you're thirty three, Yeah I'm you.
Speaker 1: Know, but yeah, I'm still doing numbers. Man. I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like I don't leave this ship. Like
Speaker 1: a couple of times I ain't go hold you.
Speaker 12: I feel like I'm way older and I feel like
Speaker 12: they know peace peace like having one solid woman's peace,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 12: I haven't really experienced that fully yet, you know what
Speaker 12: I mean. But I'm getting there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: But uh, I think it brings a lot of peace.
Speaker 12: It can help you work more. And I realized that
Speaker 12: when I was recording that song.
Speaker 7: It wasn't your father, your uncle, just life like it
Speaker 7: was more life.
Speaker 12: Because I had I used to have a multiple you know,
Speaker 12: I was a multiple kind of guy, like you know,
Speaker 12: I had honeycomb high.
Speaker 1: I was you know what I'm saying, spots like a cheetah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: You know, I was moving and grooving and it was
Speaker 12: taking up too much of my time, you know what
Speaker 12: I'm saying, from like working and being with my kid
Speaker 12: and dealing with this situation.
Speaker 1: And this happened now and got called.
Speaker 12: Text too much extra ship like you know I'm talking about.
Speaker 12: So yeah, that's that's kind of where the line came from.
Speaker 4: How important is that change? Because you you know, you
Speaker 4: you a married man yourself, you allays see you out
Speaker 4: with your queen.
Speaker 7: How important is that to have that?
Speaker 6: Oh, It's very important for me, man, especially having somebody
Speaker 6: that mature out to take care to make sure home straight,
Speaker 6: make sure the little Michelaine and stuff straight, someone that
Speaker 6: fully supports me, listens to my music critiques me. She
Speaker 6: sent me a very very dope message the morning I
Speaker 6: woke up. The first message I read was from was
Speaker 6: from Keisha saying basically saying, I was a lyrical god.
Speaker 6: JUSTI just doing what she's supposed to do my ego,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know, And so
Speaker 6: you know, me and her, we laugh every single day.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: We got the same habits. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: We go out, you know what I'm saying. She come
Speaker 6: to Candy Land with me. It's just like, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, when you find somebody like that. I
Speaker 6: love that line as well, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: We shot the video for that. I thought I was like, Bob,
Speaker 6: I'm saying one one, but I don't think they kept
Speaker 6: my part in the video. But anyway, that's why it
Speaker 6: was cool working with him, because even though the difference
Speaker 6: between him and I think Wayne is Wayne is a
Speaker 6: more metaphoric type of MC. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: style mc you know what I'm saying, and wordplay physics. Well, Larry,
Speaker 6: he just like very direct, lifestyle driven, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And so it was cool for me to
Speaker 6: pop up my lifestyle like, bro, i'm having this going on,
Speaker 6: let me talk, you know what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 6: more like it was more like cool ways to express
Speaker 6: that you're not done, you know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 6: what this project really it is just a cool way
Speaker 6: to spread that. Like you know, man, ain't ain't no
Speaker 6: dumb brothers right there.
Speaker 12: You inspired me to saying you how you move with
Speaker 12: your wife? I'm like, yeah, that's how you do it.
Speaker 12: That's that's how you rocking, and you got your kids
Speaker 12: and that's real, you know what I mean. I was
Speaker 12: really inspired by that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 12: You mean you're talking about your wife all the time, Like, yes,
Speaker 12: that's how you do it. You know that's real bullshit.
Speaker 12: Every boss got they queen I'm talking about. So, oh
Speaker 12: it is your son thirteen, You turned thirteen, he had
Speaker 12: the hotel right now.
Speaker 1: You have to have to bring in my school for
Speaker 1: this man.
Speaker 3: But see, okay, so how does that work?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 8: Because you don't hear about a lot of single dads
Speaker 8: with these careers.
Speaker 1: It's tough.
Speaker 12: How he was torn with me since he was little,
Speaker 12: like you know what I mean, I probably trained him
Speaker 12: on the spinner van, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 12: like sometimes I can make it work, like my dad,
Speaker 12: he'll help me on my my grandmother and my mama
Speaker 12: fly in and help. But he get times like this
Speaker 12: where it's like you got a slide, Come on, we
Speaker 12: get the online working, you get to get him a room,
Speaker 12: and we just try to just get it done now.
Speaker 12: Just I'm just trying to make it happen that you
Speaker 12: do get tough. It be on your conscious like damn,
Speaker 12: I'm doing the right thing as a parent. You need
Speaker 12: to be at school for these three days or whatever.
Speaker 12: But he learned the other things to learn the other things,
Speaker 12: so and he very like ahead of the game for that.
Speaker 12: Just's some traveling with us and seeing different things, being
Speaker 12: able to meet you know what I mean, artists and
Speaker 12: and he you know, he a big inspirational.
Speaker 4: Y'all talk about that thoughing life is beautiful, y'all talk
Speaker 4: about trying to balance being a father, you know, and
Speaker 4: your career.
Speaker 7: So that's conversations you'll have off the mic.
Speaker 5: I think it's just evident. It's just the energy he's
Speaker 5: gonna talk.
Speaker 6: You know, he spoke about Eli a couple of times,
Speaker 6: and then you know, I'm I'm Halo, like the second
Speaker 6: highest earner in my household.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm I think.
Speaker 5: He get money.
Speaker 3: How do you do with your son? Because I see
Speaker 3: your son hollering at women.
Speaker 6: Now, Helo like that you chill out a little bit,
Speaker 6: a little bit or I ain't never told Helo even
Speaker 6: be humble, nod that you know what I'm Stay there,
Speaker 6: you that confident cocky, don't even man humble, won't because
Speaker 6: what do this mean?
Speaker 5: What do this mean? If he ever asked me one
Speaker 5: humble men? I'm like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Stay like you are. And it's just about you installing confidence,
Speaker 5: especially in you know, young black boys. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I'm on them about you know, getting his books done,
Speaker 6: whether he reading on the way to train or whatever.
Speaker 6: But it's just, you know, it's a blessing to have
Speaker 6: because I honestly feel like he is a direct reflection
Speaker 6: of my father, who passed in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: I felt like Helo.
Speaker 5: He just too mature to be nine years old, certainly. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so I'd be like man and he started casting just
Speaker 5: like my dad was.
Speaker 6: So I really I'm into you know, I'm a spiritual
Speaker 6: type of person, so I'm kind of into that. And
Speaker 6: then my two girls they growing up driving. My oldest
Speaker 6: is driving to school. So it's just like you look
Speaker 6: up man, next thing, you know, you know, the house
Speaker 6: is gonna be empty and a little bit or whatever
Speaker 6: that is, you know what I'm saying. But it was
Speaker 6: cool to kind of pop about it over these type
Speaker 6: of vibes, you know what I'm saying. And that's that's
Speaker 6: that's what it is. I don't think it's about what
Speaker 6: the numbers we're gonna do. I think if we thought
Speaker 6: about that, we want to drop the week of the
Speaker 6: super Bowl, knowing that that's gonna HiPE Kendrick's numbers, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I think it was about putting
Speaker 6: out a project that has replay value. I haven't heard
Speaker 6: one person that just played it one time. I keep saying,
Speaker 6: I can't take it out, I can't stop playing.
Speaker 4: It, and I can sleep good at night knowing that
Speaker 4: what do you want Halo to do, man, because God's
Speaker 4: the limit for a young Halo. What do you want
Speaker 4: him to do? Like you personally as a father, what
Speaker 4: would you want to say, You're going to the league.
Speaker 6: Okay, you're going to league, so you want them here
Speaker 6: going to the league. I just really say, you know, no,
Speaker 6: I didn't go. I didn't go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: I watched it at my studio back in Atlanta with
Speaker 6: a couple other guys. I had the chef cook and
Speaker 6: I just actually had a show in Chicago on Saturday
Speaker 6: with Jeezy, and so I came back to Atlanta Sunday
Speaker 6: because I wasn't sure how it was some question marks
Speaker 6: about the New Orleans trip, and I just came home
Speaker 6: and chill like that, and then I came back out
Speaker 6: here yesterday. We shot a video last night. And that's
Speaker 6: another thing he got. He got an awesome team. That's
Speaker 6: why I like working with Larry too. He got a
Speaker 6: really really awesome team. And they would they would this
Speaker 6: stuff on all like let's shoot listen, let's do that.
Speaker 6: Love that? I love that, And so I landed at elaughing.
Speaker 6: We shot the video like one. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: He up up we came and you know.
Speaker 12: So, and I'm coming trap from Vegas. I had the
Speaker 12: club live right before like some we got the airplane
Speaker 12: was straight to the the video. But it'd be hard.
Speaker 12: We're getting it done. We looked back like happy we
Speaker 12: did all that. Kind of tired, but like, look back
Speaker 12: we did that ship coming.
Speaker 3: From the Bay Area. How difficult is it to get
Speaker 3: that sound out right?
Speaker 2: Because a lot of times when people think of the
Speaker 2: Bay Area artist, they put them in a box.
Speaker 1: How difficulty was that for you?
Speaker 12: You know, you got to jump over the loops and
Speaker 12: come from different angles, and you gotta be first.
Speaker 1: You gotta be respected.
Speaker 12: You know, they gotta know something about you, like know
Speaker 12: that you ain't like just a random dude talking about
Speaker 12: this and that you got to jump over them loops
Speaker 12: like I was. I was blessed to be able to
Speaker 12: have connections in atl you know, living in atl when
Speaker 12: I was a kid and coming from a different angle
Speaker 12: and working with people over there. Like one of my
Speaker 12: first mixtapes with tm AD eight the way Mafield, he
Speaker 12: gave me a b pack. That was my neighbor, you
Speaker 12: know what I mean. They thought me and him was
Speaker 12: brothers growing up, so when I still trying to get
Speaker 12: into it.
Speaker 1: I hit him. I hit a few beats. That's the dope.
Speaker 3: Think about Atlanta.
Speaker 5: Just everybody, just like you do the mood to Atlanta
Speaker 5: if you want to. And just my first the way
Speaker 5: I met Wayne was just like this.
Speaker 6: I was I was obviously selling weed, and but I
Speaker 6: was I was selling weed, but I was using the
Speaker 6: money to book studio time and Patchwork, which is like
Speaker 6: a renowned studio on Atlanta. This by one of the
Speaker 6: X Falcons players. Everybody would be in there, you know,
Speaker 6: that's where people went. And so I was in like
Speaker 6: a little b room and baby them from cash Money
Speaker 6: was in the a room, thirty cash money dudes whatever.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 6: So somebody came to in and say, hey, them boys,
Speaker 6: them boys next door need some weeds. So I was like,
Speaker 6: sh I come over there. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: it's like the number ones. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I'm being cool, but like he wasn't smoking that time,
Speaker 6: but he had some other guys. They take my weed.
Speaker 5: I'm telling them. I think this was like four fifty
Speaker 5: at the time.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I take I give them
Speaker 6: the zips they don't no money come. You know, I'm like,
Speaker 6: I don't know, I can't give nobody. No, we ain't
Speaker 6: in that position. So I ain't up going to New
Speaker 6: Orleans with them following them about this, now follow them
Speaker 6: about this nine hundred and so this was this was
Speaker 6: before Katrina or you know, they had all these mansions.
Speaker 6: Everybody had a match. They had a matching for everybody.
Speaker 6: Then everybody had their own mansion, right and I'm standing
Speaker 6: in the match, and for everybody they got a big
Speaker 6: jacuzie as a living room sofa. Its many years ago.
Speaker 6: And at this point, I'm not a full raper. I'm
Speaker 6: a traveler. And one day Wayne comes over and we
Speaker 6: go out in like the indoor pool and we smoked
Speaker 6: some gas together, you know what I'm saying. And that
Speaker 6: that's how I met Wayne, following baby to New Orleans
Speaker 6: about these nine hundred dollars that he eventually did you
Speaker 6: ever get do I got? I got the money When
Speaker 6: he came in with a new car and he was like,
Speaker 6: y'all something about the car came up there. I said, hey, man, hey,
Speaker 6: o G I really I'm really going to I'm waiting really,
Speaker 6: He like say, he goes Slim.
Speaker 5: He did it, so yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: Never collected it.
Speaker 11: So every time you see him, you could be like,
Speaker 11: that would have been.
Speaker 5: More valuable I needed. Then I looked up. I was
Speaker 5: on the way to New Orleans about that. I'm like,
Speaker 5: they go to my Slim. We out here, we are
Speaker 5: what we're going.
Speaker 1: I'm going. I ain't got nothing to do.
Speaker 5: I go to New Orlean but I'm not.
Speaker 7: But you know, you ever thought about changing your name again?
Speaker 7: Because you went from teddy boy to to change and
Speaker 7: now you you know you're a mogul.
Speaker 6: You ever thought about I go by Tony? Okay, I
Speaker 6: ain't say to change the whole album. I didn't even
Speaker 6: think about that. I did, but that was intentional.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Now the one I asked a hip hop question, favorite
Speaker 2: production on the beat? Mine is always shook ones my deep.
Speaker 2: That's how I start with your alchemists favorite production of
Speaker 2: all time, all time?
Speaker 9: I mean that's so I'll just say maybe what you're saying,
Speaker 9: E P M days, I ain't ready for that.
Speaker 1: You are ready for that? Shoot one?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: I just picked one.
Speaker 6: If we're talking about favorite, like ow, you know we
Speaker 6: had to be a certain producer. I can't just say
Speaker 6: favorite beat of all time.
Speaker 11: I don't think too bright, that's too wow, how many
Speaker 11: damn songs?
Speaker 2: Because it's that one soe that you always hear that
Speaker 2: beat just like h and that's always shook ones for
Speaker 2: me every time I heard ship.
Speaker 5: Wasn't just set it off in the party, he says out.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, you got.
Speaker 6: Pocket plan it just I think for me, it's moved.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm mood moody, yeah, mouy. So this morning when
Speaker 6: I woke up, I listened to Life's Beautiful because that's.
Speaker 1: What mood I was in, right, I went, I heard
Speaker 1: that beat me that thing. It was stupid. It just
Speaker 1: came on as like a movie when I can see it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I saw it like that.
Speaker 1: When the beat came on, it.
Speaker 3: Was like that was the last song we did too.
Speaker 5: That was the intro, was the last one.
Speaker 1: Last.
Speaker 11: We did that in Atlanta.
Speaker 14: And when we did it, we did that that boy
Speaker 14: now we did that. No, we did that in l
Speaker 14: A l A four in the morning. Remember, Oh yeah,
Speaker 14: that's right, But it.
Speaker 1: Was the last song we did.
Speaker 7: That's right, watch your name now, Life is Beautiful.
Speaker 1: That's how we was feeling at the time, life feeling change.
Speaker 1: Change came up with that one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because honestly, the song that Larry did, Life is Beautiful.
Speaker 6: I really love that song. I really love that song.
Speaker 6: I love that the context, the content of it. And
Speaker 6: then when I thought about it, and obviously I thought
Speaker 6: about it before the because I thought about the La
Speaker 6: fires as well, because I got homes in l A.
Speaker 3: And so I was like, but any of them affected?
Speaker 6: Nah? Man, God, that's good. I'm trying to sell one y'all,
Speaker 6: so I'll let me. But but I said to say that,
Speaker 6: I didn't want to be offensive to somebody whose life
Speaker 6: wasn't beautiful.
Speaker 5: At the time.
Speaker 6: But I kind of just overall I overrode my opinion
Speaker 6: on that and I just brought it to the guys.
Speaker 6: I think we should call life is beautiful because I
Speaker 6: think if you just got life period, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, you just got life at a period. That's
Speaker 6: that's what I was trying to like, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, pinpoint right there?
Speaker 4: One line I love when the records too, you said
Speaker 4: I don't gate keeper on want everybody to eat, and
Speaker 4: that that's very true about you. Has there been a
Speaker 4: time when a gatekeeper trying to keep you up all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 6: Man, I'm impressionable. Man, I'm you know, I'm somebody that
Speaker 6: somebody probably try to set a screen or try to
Speaker 6: block on. But man, I'm someone that truly believed that
Speaker 6: if it's for you, it's for you. So but yeah,
Speaker 6: I've been in that. I'm saying, now we talk about
Speaker 6: numbers and all that. This is a big secret, been
Speaker 6: going on for years. How people been manipulating the game.
Speaker 6: Ain't nobody came and say, shorty, I just seen a
Speaker 6: little dude in my in Kindland, in my club. He said,
Speaker 6: I do the billboard stuff. I said, bill what I
Speaker 6: do the bill boy? He said, artist name? I ain't
Speaker 6: even gonna say. He said, he tried to show me page.
Speaker 6: I say, ship showy, if this is what you do,
Speaker 6: you know, you know cause everybody asked for my number,
Speaker 6: I said, I see you again if it's meant to
Speaker 6: be the next night he and my club with the
Speaker 6: same job.
Speaker 5: In my set.
Speaker 6: So then when I seen that, my intendency, I don't
Speaker 6: know if you really about business because you got the
Speaker 6: same stuff.
Speaker 5: Yes, they just I shouldn't even have been judging, because boy,
Speaker 5: when he showed me popping up like little bitty measles.
Speaker 7: But he can make you what he can do.
Speaker 5: He show he just was like, I do this. I
Speaker 5: make sure. And we was in the club. That's another thing.
Speaker 5: I hate talking in the club to y'all. Man. I
Speaker 5: can't get y'all, and then I.
Speaker 6: Don't want to get too clock if you spit on him,
Speaker 6: go crazy.
Speaker 5: So that's why I kind of be y'all might think
Speaker 5: I'm funny.
Speaker 14: Man.
Speaker 6: Let's clear this up now. Let's let's just write a
Speaker 6: letter or something. Write a letter, maybe write a I
Speaker 6: don't know how we should communicate in the club. If
Speaker 6: I don't give you my number, let me think on him.
Speaker 6: But just getting really close to me. If I'm sitting
Speaker 6: down over me, I hate that, so I'm gonna stand up.
Speaker 6: And if you am my ear, I don't like too loud.
Speaker 5: It's too loud. Then I got to.
Speaker 1: I got to see what you want?
Speaker 5: Is the unclalled this. I got headphones all the time,
Speaker 5: so I don't know. You know, that's just the part.
Speaker 6: But I did see some stuff and then it popped
Speaker 6: up a couple of weeks later, so I probably need
Speaker 6: to find a little buddy, what about.
Speaker 3: You the same ship? Like I heard you in the
Speaker 3: breakfast club.
Speaker 5: He got the he got the recipe. We're gonna We're
Speaker 5: gonna outstream Kindred this week. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: That's just about you and you. Yeah, I think a
Speaker 1: few times, you know what I mean, but I don't
Speaker 1: really see it as much.
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lie be in my own bubble, but
Speaker 12: I think people do try to gay keep, But I
Speaker 12: try to do my thing so much that I can
Speaker 12: avoid that as much as possible. When I'm focused on
Speaker 12: the I'm more like fan driven, like for the people.
Speaker 12: So you can try to get keep with the people,
Speaker 12: rocking with me all the haze, it don't even matter.
Speaker 12: Like the people is the people. I'm still doing digits,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean. I'm still pulling up, hopping out,
Speaker 12: drinking orange juice and ship you know I'm talking about.
Speaker 12: That's because I'm focused on the people.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 12: That the fans like listen to all the outside and ship,
Speaker 12: don't you know? They shouldn't do that. I can't get
Speaker 12: him on that show, then fuck it. We go keep
Speaker 12: going outside. We'll keep hopping that trunk, and we'll keep
Speaker 12: doing numbers.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean about you?
Speaker 9: They try to keep you away from certain artists, and
Speaker 9: I mean just straight up gatekeeping is corny.
Speaker 1: It's laying.
Speaker 9: Anybody who does that is like a sucker to me,
Speaker 9: Like you're insecure, you know what I'm saying to me,
Speaker 9: gatekeeper has got to be some of the dumbest shit.
Speaker 9: Like there was some stuff I encountered over the years,
Speaker 9: but more than that, I encountered the opposite, like DJ Premiere,
Speaker 9: Like when I first met him and was around him,
Speaker 9: Like I met jay Z my first time with Premiere,
Speaker 9: and he was.
Speaker 3: Like, Yo, this is al He's dope, he got beats.
Speaker 11: And what I took from that was like Premiere is
Speaker 11: the utmost level of secure.
Speaker 1: He's not afraid.
Speaker 9: If you gatekeeping, you must be afraid that this next
Speaker 9: guy is gonna come take your spot.
Speaker 1: Get up out of there.
Speaker 11: That's nasty. I don't I don't approve of gatekeeping, Like
Speaker 11: we stand against that, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Now, you just meet the grams.
Speaker 9: Originally was that a gospel record supposed to be a
Speaker 9: gospel samples is from a gospel gospel record?
Speaker 7: Yeah, what gospel loawgs? You made that dog shit?
Speaker 1: For you know, I didn't.
Speaker 11: Like yeah, and I you know, yeah, that's that's the
Speaker 11: gospel record here.
Speaker 7: The sample was how do you feel wh people make
Speaker 7: your beat like this record?
Speaker 9: It happens a lot to me, it does happen to
Speaker 9: you like fifty of the animal things back then, and
Speaker 9: it was the Bang Bang and I will come like
Speaker 9: I want to be switchering.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 9: I tried to tell the rappers, hey, I'm switchering, like
Speaker 9: leave me out of it, you know, but they end
Speaker 9: up making me the battleground. I mean, I'm indifferent to it,
Speaker 9: just like I'm not. I don't have a dog, you know.
Speaker 9: So it's like I make I make beats.
Speaker 3: Do people get mad at you though?
Speaker 11: Cause sometimes I know you're like, but look, here's the beat.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure for.
Speaker 9: Sure, but you know, in that case, I had sent
Speaker 9: the record to dot like like excuse me months before
Speaker 9: that happened, and like I heard it when everyone else
Speaker 9: heard it, so it was like, yeah, that was one
Speaker 9: of them situations where it was like I don't like
Speaker 9: to get involved in stuff, but sometimes it happens, you know.
Speaker 11: It was you know, it was tricky during the time
Speaker 11: when p in Mall Deep and for J.
Speaker 9: It was always a weird thing and it probably stopped
Speaker 9: me from doing work with J back then.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 11: But you know that's what you posted Which times we
Speaker 11: spoke for sure back then?
Speaker 9: You know what I mean, Like definitely you was so
Speaker 9: click with MOBP what I mean you remember back then
Speaker 9: it was kind of like it was like there are
Speaker 9: instances where they're like, damn their family and it would
Speaker 9: kind of be awkward.
Speaker 6: Listen, man, this is a crazy question because I asked
Speaker 6: my I said, do you feel more like an East
Speaker 6: Coast producer or a West Coast producer?
Speaker 1: He like, what coast?
Speaker 5: And then we walked into my piece of spot.
Speaker 4: And it was like to New York, Yo, yo, yo yo.
Speaker 4: I never thought about you with the West Coast are
Speaker 4: synonymous East Coast production? Nociper said, But no, I never never, right, Okay,
Speaker 4: we made my mark out here, like if somebody had
Speaker 4: to tell me to look like the top tenies go
Speaker 4: producers of all the time I'm putting documents on that.
Speaker 3: Queens.
Speaker 9: I mean, I put in a lot of work here,
Speaker 9: you know, So, I mean it's blessing in New York
Speaker 9: embraced me and I had an opportunity at the time
Speaker 9: to work with like think about that era, like I
Speaker 9: was working with Lives Mob Deep, you know.
Speaker 1: In the time when they was like aplan airplane.
Speaker 9: How'd I get And I went to school first, I
Speaker 9: went to YU and then I just stayed here. I
Speaker 9: was already tied in with Mugs. Long story short. He
Speaker 9: connected me with Mob Deep and that everything happened from there.
Speaker 9: That's why I love Mob Deep forever. Like I actually
Speaker 9: had to ask Pe when he was beefing with Knaves
Speaker 9: to go work with Knaves on god Son because that's
Speaker 9: what we go back to the beef thing. I respected
Speaker 9: P is that and P was during their beef and
Speaker 9: P was like, oh, I know you're gonna give him
Speaker 9: some heap of go out there, go out. He gave
Speaker 9: me the blessing and go do it, which was always
Speaker 9: appreciation for that. But yeah, I mean that's how it
Speaker 9: started from Mob Deep.
Speaker 7: It was like, what are we gonna make it for
Speaker 7: jay Z?
Speaker 11: It wasn't for him.
Speaker 1: I played it for him though.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know hip hop, you know Campbell, it has
Speaker 9: been my brother for a long time, and I should
Speaker 9: go over there and play beach. And one time he
Speaker 9: popped his head and he just checked it out and
Speaker 9: it wasn't for him, I guess, but you know, yeah.
Speaker 4: Why did you lie to Drake about being good? Kendrick said, two,
Speaker 4: Chain said you good?
Speaker 1: But he lied? Why you do that?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 6: I just think it was kind of like some word
Speaker 6: play because Drake and I got a song called no Lie,
Speaker 6: and so when he said he lied, I just felt like,
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I didn't take it as no
Speaker 6: kind of way. I don't think he was taking a
Speaker 6: shot at me. I've heard all type of instants when
Speaker 6: somebody wanted me to say something back. I just think
Speaker 6: it was a Mama where it was about Atlanta artists,
Speaker 6: and you know, I do have a couple of plaques
Speaker 6: with Drake, probably three or four plazes with Drake. I
Speaker 6: think a lot of that people in that Scott so
Speaker 6: with him. So that was just Kentrick, Well, just dialing
Speaker 6: in on some subject matter.
Speaker 7: When you first heard it, what was your reaction?
Speaker 6: Well, I can tell you that I can tell you
Speaker 6: that people who name me didn't say felt some type
Speaker 6: of way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I don't I was okay with it, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. You got other line of art at homies.
Speaker 7: You know, I don't just a little babies a little
Speaker 7: basic and he said, keep me out of that.
Speaker 11: I want.
Speaker 6: Yeah, some people didn't want their name. Some people was like,
Speaker 6: why you didn't say my name? And it just no,
Speaker 6: like it's just a moment. It was just a moment
Speaker 6: that you know, but it didn't do nothing to me.
Speaker 6: I know, I think my my harmony, my my middle
Speaker 6: kid definitely says somebody asked at school, but it didn't
Speaker 6: get it didn't get hectic.
Speaker 1: It was it was yeah, not in here. I didn't
Speaker 1: hear no, he said.
Speaker 5: Line the last verse.
Speaker 1: I never heard that. But that song.
Speaker 7: Is on purpose, like you for the lights, like refuge.
Speaker 1: With everybody.
Speaker 12: I can particularly hear that that song. Fully, I heard
Speaker 12: a lot on Instagram and stuff like they need. I
Speaker 12: was doing the album with him at the time. I
Speaker 12: wasn't listening to too much ship though like that. But uh,
Speaker 12: you know, Kendrick, it's a little Kendrick. He hard respect
Speaker 12: the Kendred Sure. I just didn't know he brought you up.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 7: You never heard that.
Speaker 12: Last Verson, by the way, phenomenal last Verson coming on
Speaker 12: the picture, like kept saying like they're talking about.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that, but I never heard.
Speaker 7: You know what it is.
Speaker 6: You know, it's not a lot of songs with three verses.
Speaker 6: Three verses, so it's three verses the third.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. That's my opinion. I don't
Speaker 5: think a lot of songs. I don't believe.
Speaker 1: On everything.
Speaker 5: I love He he in his own bubble. That's why
Speaker 5: I love Wayne.
Speaker 1: That's why I love him me.
Speaker 5: That's why I love me.
Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Be in my own bubble.
Speaker 6: I mean, of course I know some of the things
Speaker 6: I need to know, but I really be clueless to
Speaker 6: a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: And I'm cool with that.
Speaker 5: I'm just cool with that.
Speaker 7: You ain't here with Kendrick. Did you on the four first?
Speaker 3: Oh God?
Speaker 7: One last question?
Speaker 1: Change?
Speaker 7: How does it make you feel when you hit gods?
Speaker 4: Like Tyler the Creator co signing this album Life is
Speaker 4: Beautiful and he actually said two chains you on this
Speaker 4: type of time.
Speaker 7: Is yes with a bunch of essays.
Speaker 5: It feels good. I have a great report with child.
Speaker 5: I don't think people know.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, great port and he's booked
Speaker 6: me for it all before when I was in a wheelchair.
Speaker 6: He booked me and was in the front. So I've
Speaker 6: listened to his last couple of albums and supported what
Speaker 6: he has done. And then I guess this one just
Speaker 6: spoke to him. And he has a lot of influence,
Speaker 6: so it felt good for him to not hold his
Speaker 6: nuts on something that he thought was very tasteful, and
Speaker 6: he didn't. I didn't ask him to do anything, he
Speaker 6: just did it. So you know a lot of these
Speaker 6: artists a gate keeper.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's another version of gatekeeper.
Speaker 5: But I can't let nobody know what's hard like.
Speaker 1: That sometimes sometimes with no matter was the man.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I respect him.
Speaker 7: Crazy me too to yours, Like like, what's your class.
Speaker 1: Man? That's a good question, you know, maybe you know change, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's.
Speaker 4: A different generation I'm talking about, like your classic Like
Speaker 4: uh said, he don't hang with the young.
Speaker 5: Man really old?
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, he really like what he really I grew
Speaker 12: up with, like you know, MESSI mar Juice, the jack
Speaker 12: at A lot of classic they was older. I always
Speaker 12: hanged with a lot of older people, you know what
Speaker 12: I mean. So I really didn't really know too many people.
Speaker 12: But when I was in the a I met, uh you.
Speaker 1: Know O G Mack go.
Speaker 12: Tmdiate a lot of them rappers like that that New Atlanta,
Speaker 12: like the Batman Keys and all that Curtis and all.
Speaker 1: I kind of all that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I seen that whole air and ship like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 12: I was at nineteen. I became a father, so like
Speaker 12: I wasn't really I was trying to get my bread up.
Speaker 12: I didn't have no whip. I was trying to really,
Speaker 12: I said, I got nine months to get my ship together,
Speaker 12: and I just put my head down and I just
Speaker 12: was trying to create this world for myself. So yeah,
Speaker 12: I kind of missed a lot. I didn't go to
Speaker 12: no proms, I didn't do none of that. I was
Speaker 12: strictly yeah, like the Beautiful Man.
Speaker 3: Let's let's get into a joint of that which I want.
Speaker 1: To hear.
Speaker 2: Life is Beautiful and text like the single Bad Choices,
Speaker 2: which I would hear Generation Generation. All right, let's get
Speaker 2: in the generation. Pick up the album streaming right now
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Speaker 2: Good Morning, so.
Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast