WEBVTT - #173 Wrongful Conviction: False Confessions - Ricky Davis

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Wrongful Conviction, False Confessions. I'm Laura and I

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<v Speaker 1>writer and I'm Steve Drisen. Today we're going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about a California man named Ricky Davis. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five, Ricky and his girlfriend Connie found their roommate

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<v Speaker 1>brutally stabbed to death. Without any leads, the case went

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<v Speaker 1>cold for fourteen years. That's when detectives convinced Connie that

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<v Speaker 1>she had repressed memories of Ricky committing the crime. Based

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<v Speaker 1>on Connie's false statement, Ricky spent twelve years in prison

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<v Speaker 1>until very recently when he and his mother Maureen, finally

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<v Speaker 1>had something to be thankful for.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important to realize that on the road

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<v Speaker 2>to a wrongful conviction, there's a lot of road killed.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the defendant who gets wrongfully convicted. There's the defendant's

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<v Speaker 2>family who has to live with the fact that their

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<v Speaker 2>loved one is going away for a long period of

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<v Speaker 2>time or sentenced to death.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In this case, it was Ricky's mom, Maureene, who had

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<v Speaker 1>to bear the brunt of that pain.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there are witnesses sometimes who are pressured to

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<v Speaker 2>lie to save their own skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Witnesses like Connie Dahl, and they have.

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<v Speaker 2>To live with the guilt that accompanies that lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting. I mean when you think about Connie

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<v Speaker 1>and Maureene in that courtroom, one woman is being forced

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<v Speaker 1>to talk and one woman is being prevented from talking,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the two of them have two very

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<v Speaker 1>different stories to tell about who Ricky Davis is and

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<v Speaker 1>what Ricky Davis did.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the notion of powerlessness that Maureen experienced in

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<v Speaker 2>this case is something that we see all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, while the trial is happening, there's nothing more

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<v Speaker 2>can do to stop the train from running over her son.

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<v Speaker 1>And Connie's being forced to drive that train. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>victim here too. Today's story starts in El Dorado Hills, California,

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<v Speaker 1>an upper class suburb about twenty miles east of Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 1>In so many ways, El Dorado Hills epitomizes the American dream.

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<v Speaker 1>It's filled with expensive homes that back up onto lush

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<v Speaker 1>golf courses. Its shopping centers are filled with luxury stores

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<v Speaker 1>and fancy restaurants. Its families, by and large live lives

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<v Speaker 1>of privilege and peace. Ricky Davis's story is still unfolding today,

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<v Speaker 1>but it began back in nineteen eighty five. Ricky was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years old. He lived in El Dorado Hills and

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<v Speaker 1>a large home on Stanford Lane along with his mom, Maureen. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky and Maureen were pretty different from their wealthy neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>Maureen had been a teenage mom by the time she

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<v Speaker 1>turned twenty. She was raising Ricky and his three sisters

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<v Speaker 1>in southern California without much support from their dad. Maureen

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<v Speaker 1>worked to pay the bills by waitressing. She and Ricky

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<v Speaker 1>had come to El Dorado Hills just a few years

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<v Speaker 1>before our story begins. Ricky's grandmother, a successful business woman,

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<v Speaker 1>had recently moved to the area, and she bought the

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<v Speaker 1>house on Stanford Lane for them. This family might not

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<v Speaker 1>have been classic El Dorado Hills, but they were close

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<v Speaker 1>knit and loving. No secrets, no drama, no lies. Ricky

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<v Speaker 1>had a nineteen year old girlfriend, Connie Dahl, who spent

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of nights at the Stanford Lane house. Now, Ricky's mom, Maureene,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't thrilled with Ricky and Connie's relationship because Connie had

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty serious meth habit. Ricky smoked pot. It's true

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<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't into harder stuff, and Maureen worried that

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<v Speaker 1>Connie would drag Ricky into trouble. But unlike Ricky, Connie

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a stable home. Sometimes she had no home

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<v Speaker 1>at all and slept in her car. Once she and

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky started dating, Connie often spent the night at Rickey's house,

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<v Speaker 1>climbing in his bedroom window after Maureen was asleep. One

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<v Speaker 1>Friday in nineteen eighty five, July fifth, the Stanford Lane

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<v Speaker 1>house gained two more residents. Ricky's grandmother was in the

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<v Speaker 1>real estate business, and she'd recently learned that one of

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<v Speaker 1>her employees needed a temporary place to stay. Fifty four

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<v Speaker 1>year old Jane Hilton had been fighting with her husband

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<v Speaker 1>over money, and those fights had apparently turned violent. When

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky's grandmother found out about this, she offered Jane and

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<v Speaker 1>her thirteen year old daughter Autumn a spare bedroom on

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<v Speaker 1>Stanford Lane as a safe harbor. They moved in on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>July fifth, but that harbor wasn't quite as safe as

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed. The next day, Saturday, July sixth, the house

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<v Speaker 1>emptied out. At least for the most part. Ricky's mom, Maureen,

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<v Speaker 1>took off in the middle of the day to go

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<v Speaker 1>camping with her boyfriend. In the evening, Ricky and his

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend Connie headed out to a party. Even thirteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old Autumn left the house to meet up with some

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<v Speaker 1>new friends, three teenage boys she'd met earlier that day.

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<v Speaker 1>For her part, Autumn's mom, Jane, stayed home. Ricky and

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<v Speaker 1>Connie got back at around three thirty Sunday morning. When

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<v Speaker 1>they arrived at the house, they found Autumn outside standing

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<v Speaker 1>alone in the front yard. Autumn told them she'd been

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<v Speaker 1>home for an hour, but she hadn't gone inside yet.

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<v Speaker 1>She was worried about getting in trouble with her mom

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<v Speaker 1>for being out too late, she said, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>hoping Ricky and Connie would go inside with her. The

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<v Speaker 1>three go in together. Upstairs, there's no sign of Autumn's mom, Jane,

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<v Speaker 1>so Ricky and Connie leave Autumn in her room and

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<v Speaker 1>head for bed themselves. But as they walked down the hall,

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky spots blood on the carpet outside the master bedroom,

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<v Speaker 1>where his mom, Maureen usually sleeps. She's on a camping trip,

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<v Speaker 1>he reminds himself. He pushes the door open and finds

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<v Speaker 1>a nightmare. It's not his mom, but Autumn's mom, Jane Hilton.

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<v Speaker 1>She's lying on the bed wearing only a nightgown, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's clear really dead. Jane's been stabbed thirty nine times

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<v Speaker 1>and is covered in blood. She's got defensive wounds up

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<v Speaker 1>and down her arms. One of her fingernails is missing,

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<v Speaker 1>and her hand is clutching a tuft of someone's hair.

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<v Speaker 1>There's even a bite mark on the back of her

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<v Speaker 1>left shoulder. Ricky and Connie were horrified. They called the police,

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<v Speaker 1>who arrived and interviewed both of them on the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky and Connie told the police they'd been at a

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<v Speaker 1>party all night and it was pretty easy to corroborate

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<v Speaker 1>their story. The hood of Ricky's car was still warm,

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting he and Connie were being honest about only recently

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to the house, and thirteen year old Autumn

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<v Speaker 1>told police she'd seen Ricky and Connie arrive home and

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<v Speaker 1>gone in with them. To these officers at the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed pretty clear that Ricky and Connie were innocent,

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<v Speaker 1>so clear that the police didn't bother to interview the

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<v Speaker 1>other people who'd been with them at the party. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>those people would have been alibi witnesses. Instead, police moved

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<v Speaker 1>on to check out the obvious suspect, Jane's husband, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy with whom she'd been fighting, but he seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>have an alibi two he'd apparently spent the evening at

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<v Speaker 1>a local restaurant. So next the police tried to find

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<v Speaker 1>the three teenage boys Autumn had been hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>earlier that night. Problem was, Autumn only knew first names

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<v Speaker 1>for two of them, Michael and Calvin. After scanning through

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<v Speaker 1>a few yearbooks from local high schools, the detectives came

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<v Speaker 1>up with nothing. Unfortunately, that was it for the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Without any suspects or solid leads, the case went cold

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<v Speaker 1>for fourteen years. Fast forward from July nineteen eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>to November nineteen ninety nine. Ricky and Connie had broken

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<v Speaker 1>up long ago, their relationship ended up lasting less than

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<v Speaker 1>a year. Since then, Connie had continued using meth off

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<v Speaker 1>and on. For his part, Ricky had spent those years

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of prison for a series of relatively

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<v Speaker 1>minor offenses, mostly drug related crimes and robbery, but neither

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<v Speaker 1>of them had ever been involved in anything close to murder.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety nine, the el Dorado County Sheriff's office

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<v Speaker 1>decided to reinvestigate Jane Hilton's killing. Two detectives were assigned

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<v Speaker 1>to this cold case, and they started by reviewing old

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<v Speaker 1>news coverage. Their attention was caught by a story that

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<v Speaker 1>had run in a local newspaper just a few days

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<v Speaker 1>after the murder. A reporter from the paper had shown

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<v Speaker 1>up at the Stanford Lane house. Connie had let her

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<v Speaker 1>in and shown her the room where Jane had been killed.

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<v Speaker 1>The reporter asked a bunch of questions about finding the body,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when Connie had said something that struck these

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<v Speaker 1>new detectives as suspicious. Connie had told the reporter that

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<v Speaker 1>Jane's body had been positioned on the bed as though

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<v Speaker 1>she were sleeping. Whoever had killed Jane, Connie speculated, must

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<v Speaker 1>have moved her body onto the bed afterwards. Connie's comment

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty obviously a guess, but the police began wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if she actually might know something about the body being moved.

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<v Speaker 1>So over the next fifteen months, between November nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine and February two thousand and one, the police decided

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<v Speaker 1>to interrogate Connie on three separate occasions. It was all

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<v Speaker 1>caught on videotape, every last word, and that videotape makes

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<v Speaker 1>it clear the police weren't aiming only for Connie. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted her to confess to being present when Jane died,

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted her to name her ex boyfriend, Ricky Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>as the killer.

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<v Speaker 2>The theory was that Jane was brutally beaten and stabbed to

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<v Speaker 2>death by a man, and the man that the police

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<v Speaker 2>officers had in mind was Ricky Davis. Police officers often

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<v Speaker 2>go after ex girlfriends or ex wives on the assumption

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a bad breakup, that there's some animists

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<v Speaker 2>there that may motivate the aggrieved party into revealing information

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<v Speaker 2>that they had been unwilling to reveal at the time

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<v Speaker 2>of the investigation. Hell hath no fury like a woman

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<v Speaker 2>scorned is the thinking here.

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<v Speaker 1>Connie is first brought in for questioning only days after

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<v Speaker 1>the new cops take over the case. At first, she

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<v Speaker 1>insists repeatedly that she had nothing to do with Jane's murder,

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<v Speaker 1>that all she remembers is coming home and finding the body.

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<v Speaker 1>But right away Connie is hit with a barrage of lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Police tell her that a witness had placed her in

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky at the homicide scene, although no one had. Police

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<v Speaker 1>tell Connie that DNA established her presence in Jane's bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>even though it didn't, and they tell Connie that the

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<v Speaker 1>hares found clenched in Jane's hand belonged to Ricky. Another lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Police had actually lost those hairs. They were never tested

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that you were present in the house when

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<v Speaker 3>this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I was not.

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<v Speaker 3>We already know that. What do you mean, Well, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you know, we've got all kinds of physical

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<v Speaker 3>evidence I may happened. Yes, Oh my god, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>Over time, though, the police's cascading lies begin to break

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<v Speaker 1>Connie down. Like most of us, Connie has no idea

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<v Speaker 1>that police are allowed to lie during interrogations, So after

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<v Speaker 1>hearing all this apparent evidence of her own involvement, Connie

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<v Speaker 1>starts questioning her memory of what happened all those years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, if I was there, I had no memory of that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's desperately trying to make sense of what they're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually tells the investigators that maybe she was there

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<v Speaker 1>and just couldn't remember it. The investigator suggests that Ricky

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<v Speaker 1>had programmed her memory so that Connie would blank out

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<v Speaker 1>her recollections of the crime. She agrees, maybe I have amnesia.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't have watched that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been.

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<v Speaker 3>If I've writteness for that happening, that.

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<v Speaker 2>At very least you would I blinted out. They are

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely confusing the hell out of her. They are causing

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<v Speaker 2>a crisis of confidence where she begins not only to

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<v Speaker 2>doubt her memory, but she can't really distinguish between what

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<v Speaker 2>she actually remembers and what she thinks she might remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators warn Connie that if she doesn't somehow recover her memories,

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<v Speaker 1>they might have to interrogate her again, and they say

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<v Speaker 1>that could lead to her arrest. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>they imply that Connie will receive leniency, even immunity from

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<v Speaker 1>prosecution if she provides them with a statement right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, first one to jump on the bandwagon, I always.

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<v Speaker 3>Sisus ride right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what happens here is that the police provide

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<v Speaker 2>incentives to adopt their preconceived theory, promises of leniency or

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<v Speaker 2>threats of harm, suggestions that the first person to jump

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<v Speaker 2>on the bandwagon is going to get the best deal,

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<v Speaker 2>and that If she doesn't jump on first, someone else

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<v Speaker 2>is going to take your spot, and she's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get punished more severely.

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<v Speaker 1>These tactics work, Connie breaks and agrees to confess, to

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<v Speaker 1>say that she helped Ricky kill Jane, but she has

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what to say about the crime. Remember, Connie

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't actually there to help her out. Investigators feed Connie

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<v Speaker 1>everything they know about Jane Hilton's murder and everything they

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<v Speaker 1>think happened too. Here's the story that Connie ultimately agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to repeat. She said she was there while Ricky and

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<v Speaker 1>Jane were arguing about whether Jane's daughter Autumn could go

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<v Speaker 1>out that night. During the argument, Connie said, Ricky punched

0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Jane in the face. The altercation escalated. Eventually, Connie went

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<v Speaker 1>downstairs and acted as a lookout while Ricky stabbed Jane.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Connie said she came back to the room and

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<v Speaker 1>helped Ricky move Jane's body onto the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>So, to me, what makes this case different is that

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<v Speaker 2>we have a sort of recipe, if you will, for

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<v Speaker 2>a persuaded false confession. What's unique about a persuaded false

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<v Speaker 2>confession is that the suspect comes to doubt their own memory,

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<v Speaker 2>they get to a place where they think the police

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<v Speaker 2>officers are telling me I committed this crime. They're telling

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<v Speaker 2>me they have evidence that proves that I committed this crime,

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<v Speaker 2>but why can't I remember it? And when a suspect

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<v Speaker 2>gets to that place of uncertainty, the police officers provide

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<v Speaker 2>an answer. The events that you saw were so traumatic

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<v Speaker 2>that they caused you to repress these memories, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the interrogation becomes an exercise in pulling these memories out

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<v Speaker 2>of the suspect's mind. But they're not real memories. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>At times, Connie's language reveals her own uncertainty. Even while

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<v Speaker 1>she's confessing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did that, I probably did that. I

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<v Speaker 2>seem to remember that. There's a tentativeness that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have if they were real memories, and we see that

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<v Speaker 2>throughout Connie's interrogation.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling LYE. When Connie's not fed information, she can't get

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the story right. She's not able to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the police what the murder weapon looked like, where Ricky

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<v Speaker 1>got it, or how he disposed of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The detectives are shaping her memories, they are feeding her facts,

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<v Speaker 2>and their final story here is really their story. It's

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<v Speaker 2>their preconceived theory of the crime come to life through

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<v Speaker 2>the words of Connie Doll.

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<v Speaker 1>Strangely enough, the police don't arrest anyone right away. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>they leave Connie alone for a while and interview Ricky himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He vehemently denies any involvement whatsoever. So the police come

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<v Speaker 1>back to Connie in January two thousand to see if

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<v Speaker 1>she can give them any more information, and they remind

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<v Speaker 1>her that the more details she can provide, the better

0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:22.320
<v Speaker 1>off she'll be. During this interrogation, officers play Connie the

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene video that was recorded the night Jane died

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<v Speaker 1>to see if they can quote refresh her memory. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen this video myself, and it's horrifying. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>totally silent. As the videographer walks from room to room,

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<v Speaker 1>ending up in the bedroom where Jane died. The camera

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<v Speaker 1>documents every wound, every injury, from her missing fingernail to

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<v Speaker 1>her eyes which were still open. It's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene that makes even people who see this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time sick to their stomachs. Connie watches the video

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<v Speaker 1>and agrees to add more detail to her story. She

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<v Speaker 1>says she heard Jane plead for her life, but Ricky

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<v Speaker 1>didn't listen. She says she heard Jane make gurgling noises

0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.560
<v Speaker 1>as Ricky stabbed her, and after the attack, Connie says

0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.760
<v Speaker 1>she saw Ricky covered in blood. The police still don't

0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.480
<v Speaker 1>arrest Connie, but they also don't leave her alone. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>they come back a third time in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>one to try to get even more details. This time,

0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.159
<v Speaker 1>detectives tell her that she'll either be charged with a

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<v Speaker 1>misdemeanor accessory type thing, or she'll go down as a

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<v Speaker 1>full blooded half partner in the murder. It all depends

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<v Speaker 1>on her credibility. Now, Connie's got two young children. The

0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.760
<v Speaker 1>police tell her that if she continues to cooperate, she'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go home to her kids. But they

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<v Speaker 1>warn her saying, I don't know isn't going to help

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<v Speaker 1>you at all.

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<v Speaker 2>They bring up the subject of her children repeatedly throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the interrogation, and the message to Connie is crystal clear.

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<v Speaker 2>If I don't tell them what they want to hear,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to lose my children. So they play on

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<v Speaker 2>her emotions as a mother. These kinds of tactics are

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<v Speaker 2>very common when a woman is a suspect to her witness,

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<v Speaker 2>because police officers know that most women would walk across

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<v Speaker 2>a field of glass in order to protect their children.

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<v Speaker 1>To satisfy her interrogators, Connie adds another detail to her story,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a big one. She wasn't just a lookout.

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<v Speaker 1>She says she was in the room during the murder

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<v Speaker 1>and tried to intervene. And remember that bite mark on

0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.199
<v Speaker 1>the back of Jane's shoulder. Connie ends up saying she

0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:42.280
<v Speaker 1>was responsible for it, that she accidentally bit Jane during

0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the struggle. Finally, Connie's story was good enough. On May

0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty first, two thousand and two, based only on Connie's confession,

0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the El Dorado County District Attorney's office filed murder charges

0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.480
<v Speaker 1>against Ricky Davis. And here's the thing. When those cops

0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>told Connie she wouldn't be charged, turns out they were

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:08.359
<v Speaker 1>lying again. Connie was charged with murder II as an accomplice.

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<v Speaker 1>A few months later, prosecutors told Connie that if she

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to testify against Ricky a trial, she could plead

0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.960
<v Speaker 1>guilty to manslaughter and get a huge reduction in her sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>They decide exactly how much of her reduction. After she testified.

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<v Speaker 1>With no good options left, Connie pled guilty and agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to take the stand.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like her to start with.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Maureen Klein, Ricky Davis's mother. Remember she's always had

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion about Ricky's ex girlfriend, Connie.

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<v Speaker 3>Ricky and I have always been very close. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a horrible father, so I think the closeness was because

0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I was all Ricky really had. Even as a teenager,

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<v Speaker 3>he would call me his best friend. So this situation

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<v Speaker 3>was extremely devastating.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and two, Maureen learned that Ricky was

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<v Speaker 1>being charged with murdering Jane Hilton, based on the testimony

0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.439
<v Speaker 1>of a girl he dated fourteen years ago. Mariene couldn't

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.719
<v Speaker 1>believe it. She knew her son was no killer, and

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<v Speaker 1>the police had seemed to acknowledge his and Connie's innocence

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. As she processed the news, Maureen struggled to

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 1>understand why Connie would falsely confess.

0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Connie had problems obviously, and she let the detectives talk

0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.919
<v Speaker 3>her into believing that she had something to do with

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.720
<v Speaker 3>the murder. I was very angry at Connie, and I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't believe that she was lying this out, not lying.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand how somebody could convince you that you

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<v Speaker 3>participated in a murder that you didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that Connie would confess to a murder she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't commit, it was impossible for Maureen to believe. I

0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 2>understand and sympathize with Maureen about her anger towards Connie,

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.399
<v Speaker 2>But Connie's a tragic victim in this too. She didn't

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.440
<v Speaker 2>start out by naming Ricky Davis as a murderer, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was only the lies and the manipulation by the

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.479
<v Speaker 2>detectives in that cold case squad that gave her really

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<v Speaker 2>no choice but to change her story in ways that

0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 2>pleased them, or else she was going to lose her kids.

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<v Speaker 1>After Ricky was charged, Maureen sat down and watched Connie's

0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 1>interrogation videos. As Maureen watched, she began to see how

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 1>police manipulated Connie. She started realizing that the problem was

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.639
<v Speaker 1>much bigger than her son's ex girlfriend.

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Connie did stay in the starting of one of the

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<v Speaker 3>interviews that she had been up on mess for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hours prior, so that in itself, I would think

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:58.440
<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't have interviewed her at that time, but they

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:02.800
<v Speaker 3>did anyway, she would say exactly what they sold it to.

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<v Speaker 3>You could tell that they would turn off the recording

0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:08.920
<v Speaker 3>and get her back on track. The captives did tell

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Connie that once Ricky was convicted that she would go free,

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 3>and I guess they threatened her with her children and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't believe anything would come of it because I

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 3>knew Ricky had no part of it. I knew he

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<v Speaker 3>was innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>Maureen was right that Ricky was innocent, but she was

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 1>wrong that nothing would come of Connie's story. In June

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, Ricky went on trial for Jane

0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Hilton's murder. Prosecutors called Connie Dahl as their star witness.

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 1>From his seat at the defence table, Ricky watched Connie testify.

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 1>He hadn't seen her in almost twenty years, and he

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.880
<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe what he was hearing. Connie knew he was innocent.

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>The two of them had discovered Jane's body together somehow,

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>though the system had put them on opposite sides. For

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<v Speaker 1>her part, Maureen sat in the front row of the courtroom,

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>right behind Ricky as prosecutors told the jury an unthinkable

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:05.640
<v Speaker 1>story about her son.

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<v Speaker 3>The way they portrayed him, like he was some vicious animal.

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<v Speaker 3>That was hard to take. I was surprised that the

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.920
<v Speaker 3>jurors believed Connie. To me, she didn't sound very credible.

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 3>The way she answered was what she was told to say,

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 3>but they did believe her. Obviously, I couldn't say anything.

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.919
<v Speaker 3>At times, I wanted to yell out or react, but

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 3>I knew that if I did, I wouldn't be allowed

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.640
<v Speaker 3>in the courtroom. So it was a helpless feelings.

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.679
<v Speaker 1>In exchange for Connie's testimony, prosecutors agreed that her sentence

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.479
<v Speaker 1>should be reduced to times served. The next day, she

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>walked free, but Ricky Ricky wasn't as lucky. Based on

0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Connie's false testimony, Ricky was convicted of murdering Jane Hilton.

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<v Speaker 1>He was given a sentence of sixteen years to life.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a bad movie. I mean, no systems perfect,

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<v Speaker 3>but there was just no way I thought it could

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 3>be convicted under the circumstances. But he was. Everything about

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.679
<v Speaker 3>my life changed in the moment that he was convicted.

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 3>It seemed to me my whole personality changed. I became

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<v Speaker 3>angry at everything I wish I was detecting nothing but

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<v Speaker 3>horrible things in their life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry that that's the way I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>After his two thousand and five conviction, Ricky Davis was

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 1>sent to a California prison hours away from Eldorado Hills.

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 1>His ex girlfriend, Connie was free, but she never shook

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>her math habit. In twenty fourteen, Connie died of an overdose.

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 1>For her part, Maureen moved out of the Stanford Lane house.

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>She couldn't be there alone and started living with her mom.

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Every month, Maureen drove to visit Ricky in prison year

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<v Speaker 1>after year after year.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of bad people and they deserve

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 3>to be in there, but there's seems to be a

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 3>lot that shouldn't be in there. With no money, you're

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 3>going to do time period. That was just cut and dry,

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 3>and that pretty much is the way it is. It's

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 3>the same with different nationalities. They don't get the same

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 3>justice that a rich white person dev and that's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly before Connie's death, the Northern California Innocence Project agreed

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to take on Ricky Davis's case, and in twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>attorneys from the project sought DNA testing on a host

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 1>of items from Jane Hilton's murder scene. The crime labs

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>started with that bite mark on the back of Jane's shoulder,

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>the mark that Connie told police had been left by

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>her teeth. Whoever left that mark bit through Jane's nightgown.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Sure enough, the lab found saliva on the nightgown and

0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>developed a full DNA profile of an unknown mail. Obviously,

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the bier was not Connie Dull and it wasn't Ricky

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Davis either. Next, the lab tested DNA from skin cells

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>that were left underneath Jane's fingernails from when she'd scratched

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>her attacker. Whose DNA was it the same unknown man

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 1>who'd left his saliva on Jane's nightgown. The profile was

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>run through the local and national DNA databases with no luck.

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 1>The attacker couldn't be identified, but it was crystal clear

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>that whoever had killed Jane Hilton was not Connie or Ricky.

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Ricky's attorneys filed a post conviction petition based on this

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<v Speaker 1>new evidence. In twenty nineteen, the court threw out Ricky's conviction.

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 1>That was great news, but Ricky's fight wasn't over. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though the DNA excluded Ricky prosecutors weren't ready to drop

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>charges until they knew whose DNA it was, so they

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>began preparing to retry Ricky for Jane's murder, and Ricky

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.360
<v Speaker 1>had to stay behind bars. But in the meantime, prosecutors

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>tried a brand new method to identify the DNA genetic genealogy,

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and it led investigators back to someone whose name they

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't heard in twenty five years.

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Genetic genealogy searches public databases like ancestry, dot com and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three in meters to look for matches to evidence

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 2>that's found at a crime scene. Police officers start examining

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the family trees and look for people who have a

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>connection to the crime scene.

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>In Ricky's case, the process led the DA's office to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one year old Michael Green, who is Michael Green.

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Turns out he was one of the three teenagers that

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Jane's daughter Autumn had been with the night her mother

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>was killed at Long Last. Twenty five years after Jane's death,

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 1>the authorities had found her killer. In February twenty twenty,

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Michael Green was charged with Jane's murder and was booked

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>into the Eldorado County jail. He entered a plea of

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty and is awaiting trial today now. Because Green's

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<v Speaker 1>case is still unfolding, we don't have clear answers yet

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<v Speaker 1>about why he attacked Jane or how he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>We just know the DNA was his. That's pretty close

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<v Speaker 1>to case closed. On February thirteenth, twenty twenty, a judge

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<v Speaker 1>declared Ricky Davis factually innocent and dismissed the case against

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<v Speaker 1>him after serving twelve years for a murder he did

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<v Speaker 1>not commit. Ricky walked out of prison right into the

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<v Speaker 1>arms of his mom.

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<v Speaker 3>The judge exonerated him, which he said that was the

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<v Speaker 3>first time he had ever done it. That was such

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<v Speaker 3>a great feeling. And didn't see him walk out of

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<v Speaker 3>the jail, it was It's the crazest thing. Everybody was

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<v Speaker 3>there to hear him coming down and how getting him

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, to see him smiling because he was happy

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<v Speaker 3>instead of having to go back into the sal as

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<v Speaker 3>I was leading him. Yeah, it was fantastic Stevening.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, the same couldn't happen for Connie. She remains in

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<v Speaker 1>death a convicted participant in Jane Hilton's murder.

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<v Speaker 2>There were two wrongful convictions here, and this DNA evidence

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<v Speaker 2>proved that Connie's story was false. It also proved that

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't bite Jane Hilton, so she deserves to be

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<v Speaker 2>exonerated posthumously.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, Ricky Davis will be spending its first Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>in nearly twelve years with his mom Maureen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll make dinner back Thanksgiving Turkey as the only

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<v Speaker 3>primal year I can afford it. But his sisters and

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<v Speaker 3>nephew will be here and that'll be nice. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>the best cook day, but it's more having everybody together

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<v Speaker 3>and happy. That's the best part of it. Ricky's a

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<v Speaker 3>very affectionate person. When he comes in and hus me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the stealing in the world. I feel lucky, blessed

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<v Speaker 3>every time I look at him.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hey, Ricky, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I am doing good? How are you stud good? Hi? Laura?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about those first moments of freedom, what it

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<v Speaker 1>felt like to walk out.

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<v Speaker 3>Those doors longtime?

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<v Speaker 1>Con Yeah, I've seen the video. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>there that was I saw you eating some pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>You went right for the comfort food.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what are your toppings of choice?

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<v Speaker 2>Saso kept burning Lagusa All the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see your mom much these days?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? I do. Yeah, I love her very much. I

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<v Speaker 3>thank seeing her.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we're talking about food and pizza and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there something your mom makes for you, something she

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<v Speaker 1>used to cook that you missed and that she can

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<v Speaker 1>make for you again now that you're out.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a funny story for that. You know. A

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<v Speaker 3>few days after I was out, I tell her, You know, Mama,

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<v Speaker 3>envision waking up in the morning as you couldn't be breakfast,

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<v Speaker 3>And she says, well, you were vision and listened, you'd

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<v Speaker 3>vision a different mom.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Strong to the end. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the story of Ricky Davis. Next week we'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about Michael Hash and his childhood friend Eric Weekly.

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<v Speaker 1>When Eric was accused of killing an elderly woman, the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure of the interrogation room caused him to falsely implicate Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael's parents never stopped fighting for their son's innocence, and

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<v Speaker 1>now that he's been exonerated, they're fighting to clear Eric's name.

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<v Speaker 3>Two.

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