1 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We are going 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: to break down the first several practices of training camp. 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Let's count on, Garrett. I know you're bad at counting 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: in math, but let's go. We'll use our fingers on this. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: We got Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday's stadium practice. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: That's for Garrett. That okay, you got it. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Yes, So we're here to talk about the standouts for 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: the first four days. 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: And it's been a hot four days. 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that has legitimately like impacted practice and 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: how much uh just how much has done and how 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: much we can glean from it? You know, I think 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: they had to kind of slow down some portions of 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: practice that would have been at a faster pace. 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: Good news is, did you check the weather report for 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: next week? 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: It looks much more, much milder. 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: Much better. We're talking eighties, low eighties. 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: Yes, which is which is perfect. I mean the heat 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: like it has been a real thing, especially Friday and Saturday. 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: Friday afternoon the heat index was over one hundred at 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: the Inner Arm Performance Center and then Saturday's practice at 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: Mt BAK Stadium. I mean the stadium just kind of 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: traps heat on the field. You got the turf rim 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: around the actual grass. It's just hot. It bakes in 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: the middle of that field. And these were afternoon practices, 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: so you can feel it. And and I think that, 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: like I asked roku Wan Smith about the heat, and 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: you know, no surprise, guy that's you know, grew up 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: in the South. He was like, you know, I think 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: it's it's a mental thing. I think it's a mental thing. 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: But I think that like that's part of a football mentality. 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: You know, you kind of grind through those summer practices. 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: But that's what you say, and then when the interview's done, 35 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god. 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: Exactly rok On with like the sweat was dripping, dripping 37 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: off of him as he was saying, yeah, but but yeah, 38 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: I agree, I think that like to some to some degree, 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: it did impact just the pace, especially for the Friday 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: and Saturday practice, the length and the reps that certain 41 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: guys got. 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, the big, the big thing that everybody of 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: course is watching is the offense and the progression of 44 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: the offense. You know, for me, really it was kind 45 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: of the the obj He's a flower show the first 46 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: two days. Then unfortunately he's a due to an illness, 47 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: has missed the past two practices. He's expected back on Monday. 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: Head coach John Harwell said, So that's good news. But 49 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: you know the first two days when when Odell and 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: Zay are on the field, and keep in mind we 51 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: don't even have Bateman on the field, it's you see 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: the jump in terms of ability out there when compared 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: to last year. 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's different. 55 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: And Zay in particular is just moving incredibly fast. It 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: looks like he's playing a different speed than everybody else. 57 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Odell isn't really he's still kind of in his ramp 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 1: up phase. But I'll tell you if he's I don't 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: know where he's at in the ramp up phase, but 60 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: he looks pretty darn good. 61 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: He looks pretty ramped up. 62 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: He looks pretty ramped up. 63 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a ninety percent he you know, whatever, 64 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: he does not two percent. 65 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: So hey, I hope he's at fifty percent. 66 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: If this is what he looks like at fifty percent, 67 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: good God, one hundred percent is gonna be great. 68 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 69 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: So you know, you just see his savvy route running. 70 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: You see just that like this is a dude who 71 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: knows how to play receiver in all aspects, and he 72 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: looks he can run like explosive can run. All indications 73 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: are good for OBJ on the field and off the field. 74 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, just the reception he's gotten from fans and 75 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: how much he's embraced fans in Baltimore and all that 76 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: is entailed in the Ravens culture. It's been a great fit. 77 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: So those have been kind of over the first four days. 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: That's what stood out a lot to me. 79 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of Odell on the field, I think 80 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: that his movement, it looks really good. See no signs 81 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: of the knee bothering him, don't see. Of course he's 82 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: not going out there and taking a hundred reps and 83 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: practice and going one hundred percent and all those But 84 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: I think that, like he's got a pretty nice work 85 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: to uh in heavy dose of work. He's practiced all 86 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: four days. I think that's good for guy that you know, 87 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: had only practiced during mini camp and just coming back 88 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: from that injury. So I think that, like, I feel 89 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: really encouraged about the physical side of where he is. 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: And you said savvy, and I think savvy is a 91 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: good word for what we saw from him, because we 92 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: saw it into practice during the week where he kind 93 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: of was just shifting and getting past Rocket scene and 94 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: then Rock went up to try to deflect the pass 95 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: and and Odell just kind of was maneuvered behind him 96 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: quickly and then and then went up for the pass 97 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: at the perfect time. It just was a shifty veteran move. 98 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: And then at the stadium practice. 99 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 2: He had a big day at the stadium. 100 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a very nice day. There was a 101 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: play action pass where Lamar turned to his right and 102 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: then hit O'Dell perfectly and stride in the front corner 103 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: of the end zone. And then O'Dell kind of went 104 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: and celebrated with the fans, and then like two plays 105 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: later they came right back to him. It was a 106 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: fifteen yard or so out where he just broke it 107 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: off and made a nice, fully extended catch and went 108 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: around both It's like, Okay, that's why he's here. 109 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: The hands that everybody he's famous for, right, and you 110 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: know he's for the one handed catches and all that stuff. 111 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: Well he makes all the other catches too, right. 112 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: And and that is one thing that I've noticed certainly 113 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: is like he you know, he's not like a really 114 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: big guy. But he's like a huge just like in 115 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: terms of target circumference. Here we go, we throw out 116 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: the math math where it's circumference. His circumference is huge 117 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: radius his catch radius. 118 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: That's the right word I get there. 119 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: The hypot news that he plays with is incredible. So like, 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: it's just like he's a big target for a quarterback. 121 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna be really big for Lamar, 122 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: you know. And Lamar even mentioned it, right, He's like, 123 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: if I throw it anywhere close, the guy's coming down 124 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: with it. And Lamar also mentioned like, yeah, he'll bat 125 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: down a possible interception. I don't really want to talk 126 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: about the possible interceptions is bat down. I just want 127 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: to know the ones he's gonna catch, yes, all right, 128 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: And and he's gonna. 129 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: Catch a lot. 130 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: It's just like he's just such a reliable, big target 131 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: that is going to make a lot of clutch plays. 132 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, in the red zone. 133 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: You know, you see him at the stadium practice doing 134 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: some dirty work in the red zone. 135 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's going to be a really important 136 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: piece in the red zone. I also like the red 137 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: zone was a problem for the Ravens last year. Yep. 138 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: They moved the ball well, but once they got into 139 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: the red zone, like that was their issue. They just 140 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: couldn't punch it in and they had to sell for 141 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: field goals or they went forward on fourth and didn't 142 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: get it whatever, you know, Like they just couldn't convert 143 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: enough in the red zone. And now I think that 144 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: is not going to be the same issue this year. 145 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: I just think that Odell's going to help in that. 146 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: And then at the stadium practice we saw from Mark Andrews. 147 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: There was a play where it was just a classic, 148 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 3: like all right, here's here's Lamar, here's Mark Andrews. Lamar's 149 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: pointing out where Mark should go, old school street ball. 150 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: These two guys know where they're going to be at 151 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: all times, and Lamar delivered a dart that Mark caught, 152 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: and it just was a reminder of like, Okay, you 153 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: know this, this Lamar Mark Andrews connection is still as 154 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 3: strong as ever. Because Mark actually to start camp I thought, 155 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 3: had a quiet few days. Yeah, he did, which I'm 156 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: fine with. I am fine with that, spread the ball around. 157 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: He and he kind of talked about how he's taking 158 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a different outlook on training camp. 159 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: This year. 160 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: You know, the advice he got from Todd years ago 161 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: was kind of like, make sure that you know you're 162 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: physically at your best late in the year. You know, 163 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: that's when you're gonna be good. And and there's no 164 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: doubt that Mark was banged up last year. It wasn't 165 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: just at the end of the year. I think he 166 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: played a lot of the year kind of banged up. 167 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know how much he's 168 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,559 Speaker 1: dialing it back or whatnot. 169 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: It still looks like he's working. 170 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: To me, it's hard to tell, you know, I think 171 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: he probably it's it's hard for him to do. You know, 172 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: how do you play at ninety percent or whatever. Maybe 173 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: it's just he's taking fewer reps. 174 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't track their reps in practice. 175 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: He might be taking fewer. 176 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: He definitely over the first three practices saw fewer targets, 177 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: way fewer than the past couple of years where it 178 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: felt like almost every pass one to him. 179 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: M hm. And maybe that's by design. Yeah. 180 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: By the way, if you didn't see Soaturday's practice, you know, 181 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: fans are always like want to see, you know, what 182 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: happens in practice. We streamed the entirety of practice. We 183 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: can't do this for every practice, you don't want to 184 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: give away state secrets, but we were able to do 185 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 3: it for the stadium practice, and that stream is up still. 186 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: You can watch that on our YouTube channel or app 187 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: our website. It's there in its entirety, So you can 188 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: go back and watch that full practice if you do 189 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: want to see these guys and what they were able 190 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: to do at that practice. Good amount of seven on 191 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: seven and eleven on eleven work, especially on that back 192 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: half of practice. So yeah, I think I have been 193 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: encouraged just with where the Office offense is at this point. 194 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: I think they're moving quicker. I mean like when I 195 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: look at the big picture of view of the offense, 196 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: they're moving quicker. Lamar is getting at the ball out 197 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 3: of his hands in a hurry, He's spreading the ball 198 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: around a different targets. And I also think that the 199 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: backs have been a larger piece of the passing game. 200 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: Melvin Gordon's caught a number out of the backfield, Justice 201 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: Hill had a couple at the stadium practice. Gus Edwards 202 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: even has called the ball out of the backfield like 203 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: they're getting the running backs the ball out of the 204 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: backfield too, So they're spreading around, they're moving quick, and 205 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: I think that it's it's a good start for monking 206 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: in the installation process. Yeah. 207 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Most importantly I think is that it seems like Lamar 208 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: Jackson really likes it and he feels comfortable. 209 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: That is important. 210 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: That that is by far the most important part of it, 211 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: you know. I mean he's gonna be more in control 212 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: of the offense, you know, have more ability. They're gonna 213 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: get to the line faster, They're gonna get. 214 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: Out of huddle. It's kind of funny. 215 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: I just like the other night, I was just thinking 216 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: about it and thinking about like Todd Munkin when he's 217 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: like watching Raven's film from last year, was probably like 218 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: screaming at the TV just watching film, like why are 219 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: we getting out of the huddle so late? 220 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 3: Here's get up the line, you know. 221 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: What I mean. Like, and it's gonna be a lot different. 222 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna they're gonna get up there. 223 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: Lamar is gonna have more freedom to say, you know, 224 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: I have these whatever X three options here, I can 225 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: see what the defense is doing and pick which one 226 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: I which play. I like out of those, there's gonna 227 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: be I think, more communication with the wide receivers in 228 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: terms of, you know, route options based on what they're 229 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: seeing from the defense. There's just gonna be more buttons 230 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson to push at the line of scrimmage, 231 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: and he's gonna just have more control of it. Tom 232 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: Monkin's been pretty clear about that, and I think it's 233 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: been interesting, you know, the perspective of like, this is 234 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: just the way that elite quarterbacks, this is the evolution, right, 235 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Like when you have ownership over it, you play better 236 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: in it. 237 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: Right. 238 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: It's not just like a tactical thing where like, okay, 239 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: it gives you the opportunity to read the defense more 240 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: and you dictate. You know, you're able to react to 241 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: what they're showing and you dictate the action more than whatever. 242 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's always a game of chicken. You 243 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: know who moves last and who adjusts last. 244 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: Kind of thing. 245 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: You want to be able to be the one that 246 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: kind of has the last adjustment and takes them by surprise, 247 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: and getting to the line allows you do that. Lamar 248 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Jackson seems to be enjoying the empowerment that he has, 249 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: and I think that's important for him. 250 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: Well, I mean Monkin talked about like the speed and 251 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: getting to the line thing like he that is that's 252 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: not just a coincidence, like that is part of the agenda. Yeah, 253 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: So she wants to get to the line of scrimmage 254 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: so that Lamar has a chance to see what's in 255 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: front of him make adjustments. And as Lamar said at 256 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: the start of the off season, like they're giving him 257 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 3: more of the keys to the offense and and all 258 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: of that is part of the equation there. Another takeaway 259 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: I think from the first week is, uh, you know, 260 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: the left guard competition is by no means over, and 261 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: I think that's gonna become more of a it's gonna 262 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 3: take a little bit more center stage when the Pats 263 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: come on this week, and that things it changes. I 264 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: mean I've I've said many times I think that is 265 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: a competition that could last throughout the summer, and once 266 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: the Pats come on, that's when you really determine that. 267 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: But they're given they're given solid the rookie every chance 268 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 3: to win that job. He's been taking the rest for 269 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: the first team, and they are you know, they want 270 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: him to show that he can earn that spot. And 271 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 3: I think that he's played well so far from everything 272 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: that I've seen. They like his physical ability, of course, 273 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: they like his size, and it's not out of the 274 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: question that they go into week one and the one 275 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: rookie who ends up being the starter is the sixth 276 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: round pick out of Oregon. That's possible, I think, I 277 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think it is either. I don't 278 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: think it is either. I think Zay could definitely be 279 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: a starter week one. 280 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: But obviously a big chunk of that depends on shot 281 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: Bateman's health. 282 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: He is yet to practice, so we'll see. 283 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: The expectation I think is that he will, you know, 284 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: be back on the field at some point here in 285 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: training camp. 286 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: We don't know when. 287 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: And if he's back on the field in trade camp, 288 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: the expectation will be that he's ready week one, but 289 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: that's an unknown at this point. That it would be 290 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: incredible to see a six round rookie earn a starting 291 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: job out the gate. That would be incredible. In a 292 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: testament to Sala quite frankly, I did. I was watching 293 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: some of the one on one drills, you know, the 294 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: uh it's not truly well, no, it's mostly one on 295 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: one uh O line d line drills, and I thought 296 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: Salah held up pretty darn well in that. Uh so 297 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be more interesting once pad comes. Pads 298 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: come on and it's fool full tilt there, clearly, but 299 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: uh but he looks like he's holding up well in 300 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: those situations, and I think that's why he continues to 301 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: get the first team reps. 302 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: I mean, if they didn't like what they saw from him, 304 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: then he wouldn't be out there. Like if they felt 305 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 3: like this guy's just not up for the challenge right now, 306 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 3: he's not ready, yep, then it would be John Simpson 307 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: back in there pretty quickly. And the fact that he 308 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: continues to solo continues to get those first team reps, 309 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 3: I think is really encouraging for him. 310 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. So defensively, let's. 311 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: Take a quick break and then come back and dive 312 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 3: into the defense. 313 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: I always start jumping in the defense and it's a 314 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: good time for a break. You're you're just not on GARTT. 315 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: I want it to hold me accountable. 316 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: I do. I do. We gotta give a shout out 317 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 3: to where our sponsors are great sponsors. JOBT there. So 318 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: we'll take a quick break, come back and look at 319 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: the defense. All right, thank you for listening to the 320 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: last podcast. We're coming to you from the Seat Geek 321 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: Studio and this week we want our listeners to know 322 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: that Drafting Sportsbook is the official sports betting partner of 323 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: the Ravens and it has a limited time offer that 324 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: you don't want to miss. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app 325 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 3: today use the promo code flock. 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So I like the Safeties. 335 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really liked them. 336 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: I think Marcus Williams is playing like a man possessed, 337 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, just very I think he's always been a 338 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: confident dude. 339 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: But you know, year two makes a difference. Being in 340 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: year two. 341 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: And Kyle Hamilton really a lot of pressure on him, 342 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, stepping into a starting job and a new role, 343 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: a different role certainly from last year. And he's stepped 344 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: up to the challenge, you know, interception rangey interception on 345 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: the in the first practice, and he's just been around 346 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: the ball a lot. Seems like he's comfortable, you know, 347 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: like you don't you don't see him like thinking too 348 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: much out there and out of position and stuff like that. 349 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: Like so it seems like and Mike McDonald had really 350 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: high praise for how Kyle's doing in practice, and so 351 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: that safety duo could be very very good. 352 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. And and they're interchangeable, which I like too. 353 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: You know, Kyle Hamilton can play beat, he's got the range, 354 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: he's got the size all that certainly, and and Mark 355 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, that allows the Ravens and Mike McDonald to 356 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: be more flexible when you don't have to have just 357 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: the quote unquote box safety and your free safety. 358 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: Those two guys being interchangeable is a big deal. Yeah. 359 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: I like them both. I just think the Marcus Williams 360 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: is funny because, like the Ravens gave him the big contract, 361 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: he started the season hot last year. But I just 362 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: think that, like we said in one of the podcasts 363 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: we you know, talked about kind of breakout players. We 364 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: just said made the point that we don't feel like 365 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: people talk about Marcus Williams enough. And then like you know, 366 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: some of the lists come out of top safeties and 367 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: he's like left off all of the top one hundred, 368 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: He's left off of it, yep. And I think that 369 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: bothers him, Like I think that he's views himself like 370 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: I'm I'm one of the best safeties in the game. 371 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: Yep. 372 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: And you guys are gonna see this year, I'm not 373 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: gonna be left off the list. Next year gonna be 374 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: left I'm gonna snubbed from the Pro Bowl. 375 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: Like not hurt last year, he would have been in 376 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. 377 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he had three interceptions in the first 378 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: four games, right for two, Three in the first two Yeah, 379 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: is that what it was? Yeah, I mean, yeah, he 380 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: was off to a towards start, got injured, missed a 381 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: chunk of time, was seven games something like that, came 382 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: back interception his first came. 383 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: Back ye with a cast with a cast on exactly. Yeah. 384 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: Oh, he was kind of funny when I asked him 385 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: about that he was like, oh I got heard last year. 386 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't remember. I must have been pretty good 387 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: when I came back. If I got a pick like 388 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: you said, you know, it must be pretty good. 389 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: We both made the like, what's happening right now? I 390 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: getting dumped on? I can't tell. Did you see the 391 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: face I was? I angree him. I'm honestly not. 392 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: Sure I did. I can't tell if he was dunking 393 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: on you either, but I was kind of hoping he was. 394 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: Of course you. 395 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: Are, but I didn't know if he wasn't nothing. 396 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: New for me to get dumb or anybody else. 397 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right. So in terms of other stuff 398 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 3: on the defense, you know, I think that the young 399 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: pass rushers have looked solid. I think that they've made 400 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: some plays, they've gotten into the backfield. There's kind of 401 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: a funny moment at the stadium practice where like Lamar 402 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: was just like spinning in circles. He was like on 403 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: the marriage round, just like you had a jabo coming 404 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: from one way, he had oway coming from the other, 405 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: and uh he got out of it and then you know, 406 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: picked up a few yards. But I think the defensive. 407 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: Player all the way down is good hustle. 408 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: It was a good hustle play. I think the defensive 409 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: players like, na, no, that's a sack, and then Lamar 410 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: was like, nah, I got a few yards. And I 411 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: think they gave Lamar a few yards on the play. 412 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: But that's what you hope for this season, right the 413 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks with David Jabo and Oway out there, that it's 414 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: like a ways, you don't know which way to go 415 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: and you're just spending circles because. 416 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: Both of these dues are coming at you. 417 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, those two guys have like to meet up the 418 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: quarterback mentality exactly. And I think that that was a 419 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: play where you kind of saw it and there's been 420 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 3: others like that. They I think that they've been in 421 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: the backfield a lot, and so I'm encouraged by what 422 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: I've seen from those two. 423 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: Jabo was a guy that we talked a lot about. Yeah, 424 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: and I think that he's continued to look very good. 425 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: He's picked up right where he left off in my opinion. Yeah, 426 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: and o Way was interesting talking after the stadium practice 427 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: about how his game is evolving, and he was talking 428 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: about how he's becoming a power rusher like his His 429 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: His game is power, speed to power, and that's kind 430 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: of the way Chuck Smith is coaching him up, and 431 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: he seems to feel really confident about it. He also 432 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: talks about how he's definitely added some more muscle, like 433 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: same weight as last year, but like way more muscle composition, 434 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: feels much stronger. So that was interesting to hear too. 435 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: So was his focus, Like was the power thing, Like 436 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: that's something that like Chuck Smith and like that's a focus. Yeah. 437 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: Well, remember when Chuck Smith was talking, he was like, 438 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: I want all of our guys to have a signature move, Like, huh, 439 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: what's your signature move? And I think that Odafe is 440 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: from what he's saying. He's saying, I'm going to be 441 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: a power rusher. 442 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: Interesting because you think about him and like he's just 443 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: a speed the world class athlete, I mean all he 444 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: has all the tools from an athletic standpoint, you know, 445 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: might be all around the best athlete on the time. Yeah, 446 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: one of the fastest. Yeah, and you know, just just 447 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: kind of off the charge athletic ability and. 448 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: Power do you have to meet and slow though? I 449 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: mean power is like you you can jar the guy 450 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: and then just rip off of that and you're in 451 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: the backfield, you know what I mean. 452 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and speed power. 453 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's it's kind of that explosion to then 454 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: get the guy a little off base. 455 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: And then well, I also think it's interesting that he's, 456 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 3: you know, basically making the point it's like, I'm not 457 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: just a speed guy, you know. I think that it's 458 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: like I think. 459 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: He's saying predominantly I'm a power guy. Now that's how 460 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: he looks at himself. 461 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 462 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 3: I think that's an interesting point. And I think that 463 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: his his start has been really solid, you know. And 464 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: then the other question that we had all coming into camp, 465 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: and is the third cornerback spot? I know you've talked 466 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 3: a lot about this, ye, and uh, the Ravens are 467 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: you know, getting a look at different guys there. And 468 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: I think it's like a good competition there. Like I've 469 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: I've been encouraged Brandon Stevens is getting a good look 470 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: and do not rule him out of the mix. Like, 471 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: you know, he could play inside corner, he could play 472 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: outside corner, you can play traditional safety. But like I think, 473 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: give the season we're to start today, Brandon and they 474 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: put three cornerbacks out there, I think Brandon Stevens is 475 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: the third. 476 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would agree with that today. 477 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the competition is not over and 478 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: I think Brandon Stevens is practicing really well. So I 479 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: agree with you if it was starting today, and I 480 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: would not surprise me at all. If week one that's 481 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: the top three, would not surprise me in the slightest. 482 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: I think Jalen Armor Davis though, has practiced well too. 483 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: He's a guy that I've noticed been around the ball, 484 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: had a couple opportunities in interceptions that deflected off of 485 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: his hands. That's why he doesn't play wide receiver. But 486 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: you know he's around the ball a lot. I like 487 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: that big, big guy, sticky, just sticky in coverage. He's 488 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: just yeah, he can run, he can he can press you. 489 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: I like him too. 490 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: I think with Jalen Armor Davis, I think the question, 491 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: like even back to Alabama, like part of the question 492 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: is availability. 493 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one hundred percent of the question. 494 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't play last year hardly at all, and 495 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: he missed time during the offseason program. So the fact 496 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: that he's stayed on the field for the first week 497 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: I think is good and that he's got the ability 498 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: he's been around the ball. I think all that's encouraging, 499 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: and so he could end up being that guy too, 500 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: And they have flexibility there, so if Jalen was that job, 501 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: then they could bump Marlin inside exactly. 502 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: And then the other I think primary candidate to other 503 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: guys that I think we should well, actually three other 504 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: guys I think we should play. 505 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: Too, one being Pepe Williams. 506 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: John Harbaal said he thinks he has a chance to 507 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: practice on Monday. Pepe is certainly a top option competitor 508 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: for that nickel cornerback spot. Another fourth round pick from 509 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: last year, just like Jaylen arr Davis, who's a very 510 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: confident guy, has a lot of abilities, feisty. I like 511 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: a lot about how he plays the game, Pepe, so 512 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him practice. They went out and 513 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: added the guy who played slot in the past few 514 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: years for the Steelers and Arthur Rolette, so he's somebody 515 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: to watch in that mix also. And then Ardarius Washington 516 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: is the player who's played a lot of reps it's 517 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: slot so far, and os is Mini camp and now 518 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: training camp, so he's an. 519 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: Option as well. 520 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: I just think when you look at the Ravens defense 521 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: big picture, you know when you say how this is 522 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens defense is gonna be this year. The questions 523 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: are a cornerback and pass rusher. Right, at pass rusher, 524 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: it's you have two first round guys or Joba would 525 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: have been drafting the first round, Honey, I got injured, 526 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: and it's the question of whether those guys can reach 527 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: their potential quickly quick enough. 528 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: This year now? 529 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: Right, two guys who are fairly fresh to the game 530 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: of football period, right, and uh, the Ravens are counting 531 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: on them right now. Still could aut a better in 532 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: that position. But that's that's how it stands right now. 533 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: Looks good, encouraging so far that a job on Oa 534 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: can do that. That's the big question that outside linebacker, 535 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: and then at cornerback, it's do you have enough depth? 536 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 3: Right? 537 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: Like, you know your starters. 538 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable with Marlon Humphrey and Rocky Scene, but 539 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: if there were an injury to one of those, you guys, 540 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, do you have enough? 541 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: Is three through five solid enough? Good enough? 542 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: Yep? 543 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: That you you have enough depth at corner that you 544 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: can get through an NFL season Because we've all seen 545 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: it a position of high attrition, you're gonna have injuries. 546 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: Do you have enough good solid depth three to five 547 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: is the question. And again, I think I'm encouraged by 548 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: what I've seen in training camp practice so far. 549 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: You know what work wand Smith talking today after practice 550 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: on Saturday in the stadium, he made the point that 551 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: he feels like there's not a weakness on this defense. 552 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: And he's like, I've said that before. 553 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: Marlon said, Marlon said, you know, we have some cracks. 554 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: You know. 555 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: He was a little less, you know, hen't. He wasn't 556 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: drinking the purple cool aid quite as much as Roquon. 557 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, just realistic, like there's some cracks, you know, 558 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: but like he feels confident that they have the guys 559 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: that can fill those cracks, you know, like no defense 560 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: is perfect, right, And I agree, I don't think they 561 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: have any holes and Marlon agree with that too. I 562 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: agree with Roquon. I don't think there are any obvious holes. 563 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: But there's some some spots where you say, all right, 564 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: if we're gonna have issues this, it's probably gonna be 565 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: at these spots. 566 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: And are are they gonna step up? For those players? 567 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: Are gonna step up and be there? 568 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: And I, like I've said, I'm encouraged so far by 569 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: what I've seen in practice in that regard. 570 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we are when we talk about the secondary, 571 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 3: we're excited because we're hoping to get Rocky Scene on 572 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: the podcast this week. This is a guy free agent 573 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: signing going to play a really important role and so 574 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: the plan is to get him on the podcast learn 575 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: a little bit about him both on and off the field. 576 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: So stay tuned for that episode later this week. 577 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: Yep. 578 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: And if you haven't done so, make sure you check 579 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: out Ravens Press pasts. There's a lot of content, a 580 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: lot of episodes. 581 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: We're turning and burning. It's I like the Todd Munken 582 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: would call it and haul it. Yeah, we should use 583 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: that just more for everything around the building. We're calling 584 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: it hauling it 585 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: On the Ravens Press past pods, so make sure you 586 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: tune in for those and we will be back with 587 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: Rocky Scene