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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eight, episode one

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Speaker 1: of Dust Daily's Lightgeist or November seventeen. It's a Monday.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien, a K Jack Rabbit Slim's

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: It's your boy Gemini Crockett's here, coming live at you

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Speaker 1: from space fith ellmy reference because he did the pull

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Speaker 1: picks in one anyway, top of the morning to everyone

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Speaker 1: that wasn't an Irish bro. The topest of the morning

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Speaker 1: is to all of you, and we're thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by our guest, a hilarious comedian,

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Speaker 1: uh actress and supervisor Katya Cvine. So well, my friend, ConA,

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Speaker 1: Now you're I can't even say. I've had so many

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Speaker 1: people sit wrong that I even sake. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 1: What's that accent you're talking with I'm a little bit

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Speaker 1: of something and something else? So you are from your

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Speaker 1: from Scotland's right? Well, I grew up in Scotland, but

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Speaker 1: I'm half Norwegian, half American. That's what your name is, Katia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah Norwegian side you speak Norwegian? I do, yes? Language. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I should just enter like veining. Hello. Everybody thinking, is

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Speaker 1: that is that the Norwegian way of pronouncing? Yeah? None

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Speaker 1: of us Norwegian? Yeah, the bricks. I was like canninge

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Speaker 1: They yeah, okay, so see no, no, but it's wrong

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Speaker 1: right right right, So I'm saying that's not that Jack

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Speaker 1: is the only most stake is no? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no super unheard of no no? All right? Yeah you

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Speaker 1: think I think you recovered from that, Katya. What is

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Speaker 1: something that you've searched for in the not too distant

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Speaker 1: past that is revealing about who you are as a

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Speaker 1: human being? Oh? Revealing? Its well, because just over this

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving weekend I googled I looked at two thousand dresses

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Speaker 1: on a sauce. Yeah I too. Yeah, um, which that's

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Speaker 1: not that's not like me because I've also never done

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Speaker 1: Black Friday, and I was like, oh, this makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense. Why not get my Christmas stuff now

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Speaker 1: for other people? As all um, um, you're only you're

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Speaker 1: only wearing four dresses, right, Yeah, so that's disappointing, yes, um.

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Speaker 1: And I also I was mainly googling dresses and just

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Speaker 1: politicians and people that are being out at that. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: who is Carter person? Carter page. I don't know. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: there someone from oh Nick Carter? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that on last was that last Wednesday? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It's a yeah. You know, Mengazi continues every day. People

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Speaker 1: are swept up for their wrong doings. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: can't stop. What is something that you is overrated? Um?

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Speaker 1: I think nightclubs overrated a little bit because I like

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Speaker 1: to have a conversation. I love dancing, but I feel

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Speaker 1: that now. I don't know if what's wrong with me,

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Speaker 1: but I think nightclubs are so noisy, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's just way too loud. It's too loud.

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Speaker 1: There's nowhere to sit, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 1: used to I used to love clubs. I think when

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Speaker 1: you're younger, it's fine because you just need a place

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Speaker 1: to drink and like dance on that. But like as

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Speaker 1: you I think begin to value like human interaction, it's

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Speaker 1: not the place to do it. I love dancing, but Jack,

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Speaker 1: you looks so confused. Well, no, no, I'm just I

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Speaker 1: think I always prefer bars because usually you can have

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Speaker 1: like a loud part of the bar where there is

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Speaker 1: loud music, but then there's also the part where you

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Speaker 1: can actually hear yourself think. But kind of weird if

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Speaker 1: you start dancing in the bar, right, that is true?

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't because I'm an amazing dancer. I

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Speaker 1: get I get up on that bar. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a legendary bar dancer. Potatoes over that's right. Um,

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Speaker 1: what's something you think is underrated? Oh? I put fart.

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Speaker 1: I I don't know if I should say my boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: we're quite fresh and new, and he farts more than

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Speaker 1: same time getting older and hating nightclubs. But it's perfectly time.

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Speaker 1: Ah yeah, perfectly time to fart. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: don't want to. I'm glad you say underrated because I

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Speaker 1: think people need to embrace farts again as a people.

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Speaker 1: And I was reminded that over my Thanksgiving my Grandma's like,

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Speaker 1: very polite and she doesn't like farting. My grandfather is

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Speaker 1: similar to your boyfriend. I've not met a man on

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Speaker 1: was just like, please stop. She's like being good nature

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Speaker 1: We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that

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Speaker 1: are out there changing the world whether we're looking or not.

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Speaker 1: We talked about politics and the president and news, but

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Speaker 1: we also talked about movies and supermarket tabloids. They'll still

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Speaker 1: get in front of millions of people every day because

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Speaker 1: what's going on with the national shared consciousness. And we

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Speaker 1: like to start out by talking about some myths that

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Speaker 1: our guest is kind of based on their background, knows

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Speaker 1: aren't true that most people believe to be true. That

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Speaker 1: But what what are some things that you think most

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Speaker 1: started off thinking premonition dreams are just bs. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: And then on January on sen I woke up to

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Speaker 1: when is this gonna happen? Yeah, it's weird. And I

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Speaker 1: like that is just a basic need. And he was yeah,

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Speaker 1: like he put together like a a team of people

427
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Speaker 1: just to like churn out food constantly. Also inspiring was

428
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Speaker 1: this New York Times article from over the weekend that

429
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Speaker 1: showed us that nazis real people. Yeah, they are really

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Speaker 1: real people. I mean, look, yes, Nazis are people too, Like,

431
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Speaker 1: no one's debating that. But what is dangerous is when

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Speaker 1: you have a publication like The New York Times and

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Speaker 1: really like again, they are normalizing this kind of thinking

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Speaker 1: or this kind of like culture um where in it

435
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Speaker 1: there's about this mainly about this guy named Tony Hoveter

436
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Speaker 1: or Hovador I don't know how to pronounce it. Uh,

437
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Speaker 1: And if it's convene, it's convinced. Yeah, he so like

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Speaker 1: you know, like it starts off, they're like, you know,

439
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Speaker 1: they're there. They were married this fall and they registered

440
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Speaker 1: at Target and on their list was a muffin pan

441
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Speaker 1: and a pineapple slicer who was also a white supremacist.

442
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Speaker 1: But they also do a very good job and being like,

443
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Speaker 1: well we're white nationalists, were not white supremacists. And again

444
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Speaker 1: in the article, like that's an opportunity where you say,

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Speaker 1: that's just them trying to distance themselves, like hiding in

446
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Speaker 1: disguise because their actual Nazis and like, well, no, no no, no,

447
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: we're just white nationalists. We're not only supremacist. That's a different,

448
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: that's more evil thing, And I think that's another kind

449
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Speaker 1: of dangerous thing. In the article there are many moments

450
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Speaker 1: where I think the person writing it could have began

451
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Speaker 1: to pick apart what they were saying or the logic

452
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Speaker 1: they were playing. Uh. And yeah, they got a lot

453
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Speaker 1: of flak for it. I mean, like one of the

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Speaker 1: wildest quotes in there was like this thing where he

455
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Speaker 1: was talking about how like Hitler was Hill where he

456
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Speaker 1: there's a quote he said he said that, well, Nazi

457
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Speaker 1: leader Henrik Hitler wanted to exterminate groups like slaves and homosexuals.

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Speaker 1: Hitler was quote a lot more kind of chill on

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Speaker 1: those subjects. And then he goes, I think he was

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Speaker 1: a guy who really believed in his cause. He said

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Speaker 1: of Hitler, he really believed he was fighting for his

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Speaker 1: people and doing what he thought was right. Okay, first

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Speaker 1: of all, bro, like, you can't be saying Hitler was

464
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Speaker 1: kind of chills, right, But I think to someone I

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Speaker 1: think with the danger is to someone who might be

466
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Speaker 1: like susceptible to this kind of talk or could be

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Speaker 1: brought into a movement like white supremacy and reading stuff

468
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Speaker 1: like having The New York Times be like, oh wow,

469
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Speaker 1: this guy says Hitler's chill or whatever, and not really

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Speaker 1: challenging that. There's a lot of potential for harm, and

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, they they had a lot of uh

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Speaker 1: clap back from like Buzzfeeds released an article immediately and

473
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Speaker 1: was like, you know, they didn't even look at the

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Speaker 1: underlying cause of this rise in white supremacy, which is

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Speaker 1: like a combination of the Internet and you know, the

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Speaker 1: political climate. But it wasn't like I wasn't explaining those things.

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Speaker 1: It was just trying to show how like normal, uh,

478
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Speaker 1: this has become in certain parts of the world, but

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00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: it um the Columbia Journalism reviewed. Columbia has like the

480
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Speaker 1: best or second best journalism school in the country, and

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Speaker 1: uh they released a thing just saying uh quote. Judging

482
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Speaker 1: a piece by the reaction of its subject isn't always

483
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Speaker 1: the best barometer of the story success. But when an

484
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Speaker 1: avowed Nazi sympathizer is celebrating, as Buzzfeeds, Charlie Warzel, reports

485
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Speaker 1: Hovester and others where after the Times article posted, it's

486
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Speaker 1: a sign you've missed the mark. I found that since this,

487
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Speaker 1: since Trump has been empowered because of all the stuff.

488
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Speaker 1: The KKK, my initials are unfortunately KKK, yeah my your

489
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Speaker 1: initially KKK, you have premnisition go on it's awful. Well, so,

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Speaker 1: my my mom's last name is Kank, my as last

491
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Speaker 1: name is Kelly, and and they just when when they

492
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Speaker 1: went to name me, they're like, oh, we like the

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Speaker 1: name Katia, and then they just gave it. They didn't

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Speaker 1: realize they were just so naive. And then two years

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Speaker 1: later when my sister was born, they could have had

496
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Speaker 1: two years to realize their mistake, and they named my

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Speaker 1: sister Kamila, which could have been with a C. But

498
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Speaker 1: they're like, we like Kamila with a K because I

499
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Speaker 1: said they didn't not right, So both me and my sister. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's so bad because I want to get forms like

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Speaker 1: coming into America like please initial and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'll just do post like okay, okay, I'm sure someone

503
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: at the border part looked to choose a sister's part

504
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Speaker 1: in a Dr. Seuss alphabet book where they do like

505
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Speaker 1: every letter like two words, so they're like kangaroo and

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Speaker 1: kite k k K and I know all the words

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Speaker 1: to it. And I found myself saying that a lot

508
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: to my son, and it's weird. So so yeah, New

509
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Speaker 1: York Times, shame on you. I know you tried to

510
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Speaker 1: say look I mean, I get what they're trying to say.

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Speaker 1: They still respect the intelligence of their audience, but yeah,

512
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Speaker 1: your audience. You're the biggest paper in the country, and

513
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: you're giving Nazis like clippings for their press kits to

514
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Speaker 1: be like yeah and see like they didn't totally tear

515
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Speaker 1: us down. You know, it's not good. It's not good.

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Speaker 1: Not a good look. Um the other and we're we're

517
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Speaker 1: not doing any big evergreen deep dive today because there's

518
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Speaker 1: so much catch up with. Uh So, the other big

519
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: thing that happened over the long weekend is that, uh well,

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Speaker 1: can you explain, Miles what happened with Flynn and the

521
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: Mueller investigation? Yeah. Yeah, so basically his legal team is

522
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Speaker 1: no longer sharing information with Trump's legal team, which you know,

523
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Speaker 1: suggests that basically a lot of people are wanting to

524
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Speaker 1: say that Flynn is basically ready to flip on Trump

525
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: because like this thing is sort of like they call

526
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Speaker 1: it a Joint Defense Agreement or joint Information Sharing Agreement,

527
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: and that's just like a way for like, if y'all

528
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Speaker 1: are all on the defense side of things, your lawyers

529
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: and kind of get together, like Okay, what do you know, Okay,

530
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Speaker 1: what do you know, and then they can begin strategizing

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Speaker 1: their defense based on what they know. It's just it's

532
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Speaker 1: a significan I can't when someone withdraws from an agreement

533
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Speaker 1: like that, because yeah, it's a pretty good indication that

534
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: at that point you're cooperating with the prosecution or the

535
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Speaker 1: government in this case and whatever respect that means that

536
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Speaker 1: whether that means he's going to fight the case and

537
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: he has his own way of defending it, or he

538
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: has a deal that he wants to work on to

539
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Speaker 1: try and lessen his sentence, or maybe something for his son.

540
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Speaker 1: So I mean, again, if this isn't I think with

541
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: every little bit of news that we get, like a

542
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: revolving around the Mueller probe, a lot of people who

543
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: want Trump to not be resident anymore get real excited.

544
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, shoot at the best, Yeah, he's about

545
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: to be Mr rat five thousand and and maybe you know,

546
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Speaker 1: sell people up the ladder because a lot of also

547
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Speaker 1: like legal pundits were saying that, you know, if Mueller

548
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Speaker 1: is offering a deal to Mike Flynn, it's only because

549
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: he can get someone higher up than him. So that

550
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Speaker 1: only leaves like, you know, Jared Kushner, Don ju Big

551
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: Don who knows one of those people? So again take

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Speaker 1: it with grain of salt. We don't know. Yeah, So,

553
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: going completely against the grain of that story, our writer

554
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:12,479
Speaker 1: from Canada, so typical Jam McNabb, posed the hypothetical question

555
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: what if Mueller actually kind of sucks at his job? Um,

556
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Speaker 1: which is not something I had heard raised. But he

557
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: kind of built a disturbingly convincing case that that might be.

558
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, built the case at least made us

559
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Speaker 1: scratch our heads. Right, So, like Mueller, the thing you

560
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: always hear is that he was the head of the

561
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Speaker 1: FBI for a number of years in a row, I

562
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Speaker 1: think his full term, and then Obama like kept him

563
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Speaker 1: on for a couple of years because he was so

564
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Speaker 1: good at his job. And so you know that that

565
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: sounds like, oh man, this guy's got a shipped together.

566
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Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be like Mr Ace detective, like the

567
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Speaker 1: dark Knight of the modern world. Uh. And there are

568
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Speaker 1: a couple investigations in his background that he headed up

569
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Speaker 1: that have been totally like bungled. So there's a case

570
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: in the late seventies where he headed up an investigation

571
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: into the Hell's Angels, who were openly like selling drugs

572
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Speaker 1: and racketeering and uh, like just gang assaulting people. And

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Speaker 1: so he led a team for prosecutors to retry these guys,

574
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: eleven of them. Uh, And after four months the jury

575
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: was like, we're deadlocked, and the judge declared a mistrial

576
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: and Mueller was like, yeah, no further questions. I'm not

577
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Speaker 1: going to seek a retrial. Which and this was the

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Speaker 1: case that people thought should have been barely easy ish

579
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Speaker 1: to make. Um, but that was a long time ago. Uh,

580
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: let's me and his defense too. They were saying that, like,

581
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Speaker 1: at the time, these racketeering charges he came up with

582
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: were like sort of novel back then. It was it

583
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Speaker 1: was a sort of very different way of going after

584
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Speaker 1: these kind of groups. And then the other big case

585
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Speaker 1: that he was in charge of was figuring out what

586
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Speaker 1: the funk was going on in the aftermath of nine

587
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Speaker 1: eleven with the antrax attacks that killed five people, uh,

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00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: sent seventeen others to the hospital. Uh. The FBI was

589
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: in charge of finding out who it was, and there

590
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: were only a set group of people with access to

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Speaker 1: this like weapons grade, government grade anthrax. And they originally

592
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: accused a guy named Stephen Jay Hatfill, who was a

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Speaker 1: virologist at the Army's laboratories that Fort Dietrich in Maryland.

594
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Speaker 1: But that got out to the media and he ended

595
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Speaker 1: up suing the FBI for five point eight million dollars

596
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Speaker 1: because it wasn't him and uh like, the type of

597
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: anthrax that he had access to was not the type

598
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: of anthrax that was used in the attacks. And then

599
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: so the story that I had always heard is that

600
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Speaker 1: they then found the guy who definitely did it, this

601
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Speaker 1: guy Bruce E. Evans, who, when he learned from his

602
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Speaker 1: lawyer that he was about to be accused of murder

603
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: and connection with these anthrax attacks, committed suicide. And there

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Speaker 1: there are still reasons to think that he might have

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Speaker 1: been the guilty party. Namely, he found out from his

606
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Speaker 1: lawyer that he was being accused and rather than being like,

607
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Speaker 1: damn it, I'm innocent, killed himself. So that's crazy. But

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00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: on the other hand, there are a lot of sort

609
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: of second guessing going on about whether he was actually guilty.

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Speaker 1: They say that, you know, some of the evidence where

611
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Speaker 1: they're suggesting that the types of anthrax matched up might

612
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Speaker 1: just be a case of parallel evolution. Basically because anthrax

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Speaker 1: is like a living organism. Uh, they were able to

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Speaker 1: match the anthrax he had access to to the anthrax

615
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Speaker 1: and the envelopes, but they were saying, no, you could

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Speaker 1: easily have two batches of anthrax that just evolved in

617
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Speaker 1: similar directions essentially. Um, so we we don't really know.

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Speaker 1: There's just been accusations that Muller and the FBI didn't

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Speaker 1: rigorously enough explore that explanation. And then there was a

620
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Speaker 1: supposedly a FBI campaign to paint him as the guilty

621
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Speaker 1: party after he died, so to like really just making

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00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: an open and shut thing, um, which obviously would be

623
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Speaker 1: very convenient for them, like, oh, well, this guy can't

624
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Speaker 1: protect himself anymore. So it's just you know, this guy

625
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Speaker 1: bury him so to speak. It's tough to like hear that,

626
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: like he kind of funked up in the past. But again,

627
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: we don't know. These could be the kinds of mistakes

628
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: the superhero has to go through, kinds of failures that

629
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: are like, you know what, I'm not sucking up this time.

630
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Speaker 1: There's a time to get it right right, So well,

631
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Speaker 1: we shall see. It's just a thing that I had

632
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: totally blindsided me because I had only heard that he

633
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: was like this superhero FBI leader. Yeah, you're like, yeah,

634
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Speaker 1: I was hoping the article would be like he had

635
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: a dream about these serial killers and he found him

636
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: the next day, prevented a mass murder. But again, it's

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Speaker 1: like I didn't know how to to keep all Right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the royals, y'all. And we're back.

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Speaker 1: So big news over the weekend, the biggest news really, Yeah,

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00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: Prince Harry and the actress Megan Markle are engaged. We're

642
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: gonna have a royal wedding with an American princess. So

643
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: the last time we had a royal wedding, I was

644
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: sort of taken aback by how big a deal it

645
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: was just around the world, specifically in the UK. Um.

646
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: But like, another fact that I learned in the last

647
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Speaker 1: handful of years that I was surprised by is that

648
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: the royal family is like funded by British tax payers money.

649
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: Like there's the some of the most wealthy people in

650
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: the world, and like poor people are like paying taxes

651
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: to like help them keep up their palace. I'm sorry,

652
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: did you just hear about a monarchy? Yeah, it's just

653
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: shocking to me that that's still the case, right right, Yeah,

654
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: you think they'd move on and not collect you know, tidings,

655
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: titans from their subjects. And now we're about to have

656
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: this like multi many, many millions of dollars wedding that

657
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: stops the city of London in its tracks and basically

658
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: the entire UK and its tracks for like weeks right

659
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: as a UK UK or. I mean it's very mixed.

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00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: You definitely there are a lot of people that are

661
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: anti monarchy and and then a lot of people that

662
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: are obsessed. Um. I just saw the news this morning

663
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: and it was saying most Londoners are wondering if they'll

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Speaker 1: get holiday, and then the next news was like they're

665
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: not getting a holiday as far as I know, Yeah,

666
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: the wedding is not going to be like a national holiday.

667
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 1: Is that normal? Um? I think for redheaded young boy,

668
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: you don't get a holiday. Also, I have a personal

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00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: connection to Prince Harry were born on the exact same day, yes,

670
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: and my mom like when she was giving birth, the

671
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: nurse coming like Princess Diana just had her baby, and

672
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: my mom was a huge anglophile, so like she probably

673
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: was like it was like the greatest day of her life.

674
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: That's crazy that you remember that. It was wild. My

675
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: first memory was like I'm also born. Yes, this will

676
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: cloud myself perception for the rest of my life. Um,

677
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't know the fact that they are so lifted

678
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: up by the culture. It actually, when I was thinking

679
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: about it today, reminded me of that short story The

680
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: Lottery where they like randomly choose a person from a

681
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: society to like stone to death and just like that

682
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: gets all their violence out. You know that short story.

683
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Like so they have a lottery in the center of

684
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: town and like one person pulls the straw and then

685
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: they just get they stone them to death and it's

686
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: like a year later. Yeah, it's The Hungry Games is

687
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: heavily inspired by this. It's an old short story that

688
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: American kids used to have to read. I guess, um,

689
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: but it's the idea, yeah, just right exactly. It's like

690
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: the the idea being that, like it's valuable to the

691
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: culture to have some some like blood letting, And I

692
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Speaker 1: just wonder if, like the Royals, if there's some function

693
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: that they performed that a culture needs. It's like the

694
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: reverse of that. It's like you lift them up and

695
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: they and like, you know, the poor people give part

696
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: of their money to let them, you know, have a

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00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: Royal dog watcher for each of the dogs that the

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00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: queen keeps in her palace. You know, she has loads

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00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: of like parties, like summer parties, tap parties. My mom

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00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: and my stepdad a few years ago were invited to

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00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: a couple because if you if you do something that's

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Speaker 1: notable um or um, if you're on some sort of

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00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: list I guess, then then you're invited UM. And my

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00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: stepdad was one of the people along with al Gore

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00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: that were that won the Nobel Prize. UM, so it

706
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: was him and a team of your dad won a

707
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Nobel Prize, but he's him and a team of people

708
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: weren't on on the team that worked with al Gore. UM.

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00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: And then yeah, they were part of that. So I

710
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: think that was he works as a professor of mountain

711
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: studies and does lots of stuff for the environment. So

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Speaker 1: I think for a few years my mom and my

713
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Speaker 1: stepdad were invited to a bunch of them, and I

714
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: think there is that. And they also have Royal Ascot

715
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: which is like the races, so they do have UM

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Speaker 1: events throughout the year, which are sort of kept as like, yes,

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00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: the royals are mingling with the normal people. Um. Um,

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Speaker 1: I guess maybe I know Norway is obsessed with the

719
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: British royals, and like whenever I'm there, they always have

720
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Speaker 1: loads of papers. Um. The covers of papers are just

721
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Speaker 1: Will and Kate and and then their own monarchy. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the people are, but definitely I

723
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: see with the tabloids there's a there's a big obsession

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Speaker 1: with it, and the how early it starts for the

725
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: offspring is really reminiscent of like the Flashback Sequences and

726
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: the Truman Show, like where there everybody's just like watching

727
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Speaker 1: the first stay like so excited having spent time in America.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you think there's a like American equivalent,

729
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Speaker 1: like is our celebrity culture similarly like upholding? Definitely, I

730
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Speaker 1: remember um Jennifer Lawrence said, I think she was like

731
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: thinking that she felt like she had to pay taxes

732
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: is to Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, And I definitely

733
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Speaker 1: think that there's, um the pedestal that we put mainly actors,

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00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: uh is kind of yeah right, well they also fit

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00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: like are like you know it's the archetype of kings

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Speaker 1: and queens. There's like a lot of stuff like from

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Speaker 1: culture that like because like even look at almost every

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00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: week right when we do the Bloyds, some form of

739
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: royal family stories on there. And I don't know if

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00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: that's like a way to also like uh, augment our

741
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: own sense of history by being American like that it

742
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: maybe somehow goes further back than seventeen seventies six because

743
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: of like living under British rule and that's like remnants

744
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: of that that we still look that way, or if

745
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: it's like the Cinderella story of like precisely for Megan Markel,

746
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: like that's the kind of ship that people like dream

747
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: about it, like right, the regular person, now I'm part

748
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: of the royalty like a Disney story. It does feel

749
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: when the news in the UK recently when it's not

750
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: been about terrorism and then it's like, oh, let's see

751
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: what the royals are up to? Kind of um, it

752
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: changes to that quite quickly, right, Yeah, more like a

753
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 1: live action Disney movie. I feel like starting between people

754
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: who look at who very photogenic. Man, I gotta say

755
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: this this is a I don't know, is this is

756
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: this the best looking royal family ever. I don't know,

757
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: because because all the other ones pras were just painted

758
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: by people who knew that the person they were painting

759
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: could like have their head chopped off, so they're like, damn,

760
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: you're a good looking man and your arms are jacked, man,

761
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: Damn bro, what do you look at that calf definition?

762
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess the thing that Americans would

763
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: say is that we ours is at least a meritocracy.

764
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Speaker 1: You know, we choose our people based on, you know,

765
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: Angeline and Julian brad Pitt being the best looking people

766
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: in the world or something. But at the same time,

767
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: we do think that you know, this handals that we're

768
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: seeing in Hollywood these days are sort of putting a

769
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: lie to that, like that, you know, at least the

770
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: royal line of succession is like the rules of that

771
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: are clear and public, and we're learning that in America,

772
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: our royalty is bestowed by like sociopathic sexual predators and

773
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: like dark hotel suites who are just like, yeah, you,

774
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: I like you. Is there any chance that Megan Markel

775
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: could have any kind of come into power, Like if

776
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: you're not in the line of succession, if you marry

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00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: into it. Right, So the rules of succession go like this, so, uh,

778
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Speaker 1: next in line, Prince Charles, He's first in line. Uh.

779
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: Prince William is second in line, and then both of

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Speaker 1: Prince Williams's children, So Prince George, who was born in

781
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen is just the most adorable kid in

782
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Speaker 1: the world. Uh. And then their daughter, who is one

783
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: and a half, Princess Charlotte, is fourth in line, and

784
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: then Prince Harry is fifth. No, no, the unborn the

785
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: unborn child. Right. Wills and Kate are pregnant with a

786
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: with their third which is uh. That child will then

787
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: jump above Harry. So Harry's currently fifth, about to become sixth. Yeah, exactly.

788
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: Once the baby is born, he will be sixth, and

789
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: then any of his kids would enter the line of

790
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: succession after him. So uh. The Princess Megan Markle is

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00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, on the one hand, sometimes so for instance,

792
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth current Queen, current ruler. Uh, she is married

793
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: to a dude named Prince Philip, who you never hear

794
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: about because he's like it all flows through the blood

795
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: of this one family. Did you hear about him in

796
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: the UK? But not out here in America? You don't

797
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: hear about it. Uh So everything it's all about flowing

798
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: through the blood of this one family. So on the

799
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: other hand, so that's one extreme and that I don't

800
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: think a lot of Americans have like hear about Prince

801
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: Philip all that much, even though he's married to the Queen.

802
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, Princess Diana was not like

803
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: considered an actual like heir to the throne, but she

804
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: was like the British Madonna. She was like the biggest

805
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: deal in the world. Um So, yeah, it can go

806
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: really either way. Um I guess with the line of succession,

807
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: the one thing would be her kids with Harry, assuming

808
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: they have kids, would be some distant version of being

809
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: in line for the throne, which would presumably be the

810
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: closest the line of succession has ever passed to people

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Speaker 1: of color. It was interesting, is like some of the

812
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: coverage though there are so some people they're they're like

813
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: shouting around like it's great that there's like a woman

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00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: of color who joined the royal family and things like that,

815
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: then other ones are a little more just shitty. Yeah.

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00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: The Daily Mail, uh in November of last year, had

817
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: a headline Harry's girl is in parentheses almost and then

818
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: straight out of Compton. Uh that's the Daily Mail, y'all. Yeah.

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00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: So even this Daily Mail piece kind of goes on

820
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: to even say some ship like if there's an issue

821
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Speaker 1: from her alleged union with Prince Harry, the Windsors will

822
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: thicken their watery thin blue blood and spencer pale skin

823
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Speaker 1: and ginger hair with some rich and exotic DNA. They

824
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: also uh. The writer who wrote this piece also described

825
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: Megan Markole's mother as a dreadlocked African American lady from

826
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: the wrong side of the tracks. So her mother, Doria Ratlin,

827
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: who they're talking about like being from the wrong side

828
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: of the tracks, is actually a psychotherapist and yoga instructor.

829
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: Her dad is uh an Emmy Award winning lighting director.

830
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: She actually grew up in Hollywood, went to like one

831
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Speaker 1: of the better most prestigious private schools in Los Angeles,

832
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: uh and graduated from Northwestern, which is one of the

833
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: better schools in America. Uh So, yeah, all of this

834
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: bullshit about her being from the wrong side of the

835
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: tracks as bonkers get these are like this one in

836
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: the Daily Veil. There are more gossipy sites. As much

837
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: as they want to argue that they're like, you know,

838
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: legitimate journalistic outlets. When I performed, I did stuff at

839
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: the Olympics, We welcomed the athletes, we had the Daily

840
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: Mail coverage, and that's when I saw firsthand how much

841
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: they made up. They said that we were speaking in tongues.

842
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: They said that the athletes looked at us like they

843
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: hated our performance, and I was like, they were loving

844
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: it and we were singing queen songs like it was

845
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: just completely made up, Like it wasn't Actually it was

846
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: fake news. Wow that that was the Daily Mail or

847
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: one that was the Daily Mail. Yeah, um, yeah, we're

848
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna stay on top of this because we're

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Speaker 1: you thought we were making up on today's episode. Uh,

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Speaker 1: season eight. We will be back tomorrow with more podcasts

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