WEBVTT - RICHARD MARX: "Songwriter" 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:09.719 The calendar says so, the early mornings say so, and 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:14.080 the grocery aisles full of Halloween treats and decor due 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:20.400 to it is officially pumpkin season. And I'm not a 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.960 coffee fan, I am surrounded by a lot of folks 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.239 who are who have to have at least one two, 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.760 maybe three cups of coffee a day. And the pumpkin 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:34.879 spice wafting from those tall take out cups inspire me, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:40.680 inspire me to bake pumpkin loaves, pumpkin bars, pumpkin pies, 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.440 and one of my favorites, pumpkin dump cake. If you've 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.720 never had pumpkin dump cake, look it up. It is 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:52.400 so good and so easy to make, you know. I 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.720 find myself in the kitchen more than in the garden 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.600 these past few weeks, preserving some of the year's harvest. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:03.200 Packing lunch is for school, throwing together after school snacks, 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.919 cooking up big meals for our family. We have dinner 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:11.560 together every night over the sounds of my whistling teapot, 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.959 a sizzling fry pan, or the clanking of dirty dishes 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:19.080 in the sink comes in nostalgic playlist that reminds me 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:24.319 of so many other pumpkins seasons past, those of my childhood, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:30.680 those of my older children's childhoods. This is a beautiful season. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:38.560 Fall is a beautiful season of color, of passion, of nostalgia. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.280 And there's nothing more nostalgic than the music created by 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:50.800 Grammy winning singer, songwriter, producer great guy Richard Marks. Besides 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.559 crafting and recording his own hits, Richard has pinned chart 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:59.480 toppers for the likes of Natalie Cole, Luther Vandross, Keith Urban, 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:06.480 Barbara Streissan, Barry Manilow, Tony Braxton, Kenny Rogers, Josh Groban. 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.320 The list goes on and on and on, Doughtry, so 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.720 many others. He made history as the only male artist 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.160 whose first seven singles reached the top five on the 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.280 Billboard Charts, and he has sold more than thirty million 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:26.160 albums worldwide. Richard Marks came by the farm in early 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.800 I think he was actually my last in person guest 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:36.120 before the COVID curtain fell. We had an amazing visit then, 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:41.600 and his ah depth and breadth of knowledge of the 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.560 music world blew me away. I mean, if you ever 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.360 want to play trivia music trivia and you want your 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.840 team to win. Get Richard Marks on your side. He 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.200 knows everyone, and he knows every song, and he knows 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.160 every lyric, and he knows every person who played every instrument, 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:01.160 and he knows every producer. He was me, He was engaging. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.799 He was someone who made all those in the studio 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.760 feel like we had been friends forever. I've been right 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.160 here waiting to welcome Richard Marks back since then, and 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.400 I'm thrilled to be able to do so today. I 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.560 wish we were together at my farm, what like we 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.320 were the last time. But he is calling us from 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:23.600 the UK, where he is promoting his brand new, multi 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:29.320 genre spanning album Songwriter on a new label, Shelter Records. 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:36.960 Songwriter was released on September details several decades of his music. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:44.840 His songwriting accolades across many different genres throughout his amazing career. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.240 My gosh, when I met this guy, I was blown 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.960 away with how many things musically he has done. Richard 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:56.400 Marks has made history over and over again. Now he's 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:01.920 showcasing his amazing versatility with the release of Songwriter. Songwriter 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:06.720 has twenty tracks spanning four genres. I love that this 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:11.440 guy mixes it up. He's got pop, rock, country, and ballads. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:16.280 He's got contributions from legendary American composer Bert Back, Iraq, 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:21.640 Keith Urban, David Hodges, and more. Richard has written on 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.800 a number one single in each of the last four decades, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.960 so every ten years at least he's had a number 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.880 one hit. The only person other than him who's done 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.599 that was Michael Jackson. He's co written chart topping hits 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:39.560 with numerous artists and has scored fourteen number one singles 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:44.520 both as a performer and a songwriter producer. 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And I 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.920 went to New York to do the Kelly and Ryan Show, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.280 and I was leaving the next day to fly to 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.240 Estonia to start my European tour behind the Limitless album. 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:36.240 And uh, we all went, yeah, well, what a crazy, crazy, 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.240 crazy time that was. How did you fare? How did 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.520 you make it through? You look great? Thanks to you. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.960 I was just about to say, you look great. Um, 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.120 you know, other than it took me a little time 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.800 to adapt to being still, because I've never in my 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:56.040 adult life stopped. I've always been in motion. I've always 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.240 been either on the road or traveling, or in the 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.560 studio or you know, doing something. Um. I've certainly I've 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.640 developed a much better balance over the last you know, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.520 eight or nine years since I met Daisy and we 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.920 got married, and she's taught me how to have as 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.880 much fun as work. Now. See, I I find it 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.240 hard to believe you weren't always fun, because since I've 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:22.240 known you, like fun and charismatic and just full of 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.880 life are some of the words I would use first 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.480 to describe you. That's very sweet. I mean to have 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.000 the career you've had, you had to be very focused 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.440 and very work Yeah. Focused, I mean, you don't have 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.160 number one hits decade after decade after decade after decade 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.920 unless you can laser focus. But you have a very 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.840 light spirit. You're full of light. Well, I take that 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.120 as a great compliment. I would say that the truth 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.480 about me up until the last you know, however many years, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.120 is that it was difficult for me to really unplug 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:58.760 and relax and not be you know, churning inside about 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.040 whatever was next. And days taught me to just take 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.320 a breath. But it's still this long time. It wasn't 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.640 it was. It was a little rough in the first couple, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.360 like six weeks or seven weeks, as it was for 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:16.320 so many other people. And listen, I'm well aware we 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.559 had it better than most. You know. We were our 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:22.600 circumstances were so blessed and we were very grateful. Um, 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.400 and then I settled into just like really loving being 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.040 quiet for a long time. So I ended up faring 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.320 pretty well, and we as a couple like we loved 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.760 it because we just love to be alone. I feel 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.360 guilty when I say that to most people because there's 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:46.400 mental health issues and alcoholism is is crazy, and poverty 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.319 and all that the negatives that came with it. Bote 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.960 I loved it. Yeah. For me, if you give me 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.560 a choice between spending a week quiet playing games with 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.760 my family or a week all expenses paid in Disneyland, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.679 I will take the week with my family any day. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.800 And that's what we. We got to spend time having 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:13.720 family meals every day. Now, the negative of that was 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:18.600 I put on the COVID twenty. You know, I'm working 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.200 hard these days. I went and saw Woman King. Have 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.640 you seen the Woman King? Richard? Take Daisy to go 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:29.000 see the Woman King? And it's like, yes, I'm gonna 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.080 get in shape. I am going to be viola. I 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.079 mean it's so inspiring for getting in shape and claiming 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:40.839 your power and all that. But I am having a 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:45.560 hard time re engaging and I will never ever re 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.440 engage to the level I was or plug back into 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.120 the level level I was before COVID. I just I 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.439 don't have it in me. I don't. I don't want to. Yeah, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.600 I will say that. Um, the two things that I 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:05.320 missed the most I am doing now in a way 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.360 that is heightened one is just hugging people I love, 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:14.920 especially my son's um. We would see them from a distance. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.400 Sometimes they would come over and they would be twenty 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:22.840 ft away. Whatever. The hugging now I appreciate more than ever. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.880 And I've always been a huggy guy. And not just 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.719 sounds so cliche, but like, I didn't realize how much 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:33.839 I missed, not just performing and not just an audience, 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:40.720 but I missed the communal event of a concert. I missed, 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.520 like I realized we all missed it, like that connection 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.400 between a performer and honest when we're all together, there's 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:52.400 no politics, there's no there's nothing. There's just music and 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:58.280 love and fun and energy. Yeah. And so I'm you know, 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.080 I'm making up for it, man, I'm doing a on 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.120 the shows, and I'm just every night I walk out there, 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:07.240 I'm just so extra grateful. Amen. Amen. So you're doing 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:11.320 a tour now because you have released a project that 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.679 blew my mind. Uh. Having been in the radio industry 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.559 for so many years, I have record producers or promoters 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.079 or record labels come and they say, Okay, what songs 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.400 should we release first? What genre? You know what our 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.880 our producers will say Okay, we're going in the studio 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.920 in a month, and just tell me, Delilah, like, what's 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.120 what's really hot right now? Is like country crossover really hot? 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:38.440 Blah blah blah blah blah. Trying to pigeonhole somebody And 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:42.520 in this project you're releasing, there's no pigeon holing you. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.320 You're just like, no, No, I'm gonna do what I 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.920 love to do. I'm gonna do music. I'm gonna do 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:55.360 great music that is from my soul. Yeah, twenty cuts, Like, 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.360 did the did the folks in the business because you 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.240 and I both I mean, we're in the business, but 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.280 we're not you know, did they just like freak out 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.000 when you said, no, this is what I want to do. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.520 I want to put country on there. I want to 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.560 put pop on there. You know, it would make sense, 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.800 It would make sense that for me to tell you, like, 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.000 all the people that rejected it or told me I 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.120 shouldn't do it, the only two people that, the only 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.200 two entities I should say that matter when it comes 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.480 to this kind of thing is my manager, who is 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.120 my teammate in terms of like, you know, my career 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.880 and what we do. And I could have done this independently, 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:36.120 but I started a relationship with BMG which Shelter is 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.760 a division of BMG. That's the label that's putting out songwriter. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.640 It's all still BMG. UM. We had a great success 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.520 a couple of years, three years ago almost with Limitless Um. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:54.360 It was a very collaborative, nice relationship with a record company. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.679 And you know, I've had a lot of the opposite 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.000 throughout my career, of course, because you've had a long 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.360 career anybody who's been in the industry for more than 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:09.320 a minute. Yeah, but I was kind of shocked, pleasantly shocked, 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.880 starting with my manager and then the folks at the label. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:19.240 They all went, Wow, this is so cool, this is 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.000 really cool. There was no pushback. There was like, nobody's 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.080 ever done this, this is a great idea, this is 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.040 gonna be so much fun. So it was invigorating. You 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:44.000 know how invigorating that must be. I remember when I 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:51.040 switched companies eighteen nineteen, almost twenty years ago. To feel 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.320 that instead of somebody pushing against your face and pushing 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.560 you down, to feel the wind against your back pushing 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:03.840 you forward. WHOA, Well, it's the feeling of Zaiah was 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:09.160 coined or stated you know, the first twenty years of 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.920 my career, I'm so grateful for the amount of success 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:17.680 and the amount of hit songs. There wasn't one success 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.160 that was because of my record company. It was in 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.720 spite of in spite of Yeah, and they fought me 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:30.000 at every turn. They tried so hard, they wrecked everything. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.080 I would have to put out, every fire I had 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.400 had to like jump through ten. So did right Here 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.440 Waiting change that for them? I mean that was such 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.440 a mega hit and still is one of my most 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:46.320 requested songs. Yeah, I love hearing that. No, it didn't 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.800 change anything. No, all that happened then was that they 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.000 kept wanting me to do right here waiting again, right 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.640 here waiting too. And I would come to them with 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.280 and I'd go, but you already have you already have it. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.280 You can go listen to it anytime you want, like, yeah, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.040 called Delilah, She'll play it for you. I already did that, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.560 Like I want to do some other stuff. So it 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.720 was it was even that even on the height of that, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.400 in the height of that success, the people I was 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:15.760 working with were just they made everything so difficult hard. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.840 So now you've got a record label that believes in 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:24.480 you and supports you. A wife that is so beautiful, 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:29.880 like stunning and adores you. And tell me about the 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:35.440 collaboration with the boys. Oh my goodness. So all three 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.320 of my sons have three sons, the March Brothers, and uh, 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.520 they're all incredible. I'll give you a second to sorry 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.920 now literally, um there. First of all, they're just the 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:55.840 most amazing human beings there. I'm so proud of their humanity. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.920 M my oldest son, Brandon's dirty just turned thirty two. Lucas, 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:04.000 my middle son, just turned thirty. My baby point Jesse, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.760 will be twenty nine in January. They're just such good 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:12.199 people and they're my best friends. Were really close, but 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.960 they're all really great talented singer songwriter musicians. So we've 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.240 done stuff together since they were old enough to practically 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.879 open their mouths and make sound, you know, um, to 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:28.920 get to a point where I'm now creating records with them, 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:30.920 and not in a way that's sort of like Dad 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:35.000 leading the way, but I'm learning from them and I'm 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.960 relying on them. I have Brandon and I didn't do 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.879 anything on this record. I know we will. We just 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.800 haven't figured out his style of music. We you know, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.000 he's like, we'll figure it out one of these days. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.000 But he's cheerleading for all of us. Lucas worked on 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.440 my last album. We had a hit that you were 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.439 kind enough to play on another one down that was 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.239 me and Lucas, and Lucas is just on fire as 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.360 a writer and producer. You did a Katie Perry track 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.240 last year. He is really doing well and so he's 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.040 a big part of this album. He he and I 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.320 did three or four tracks together. And for the first time, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.760 I wrote songs with my youngest son, Jesse, who's a 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.680 rock artist. He has he goes. He just put out 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.240 his first EP under the band name Mark This Hour, 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.360 and it's a heavy rock EP but it's very melodic 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.480 and he sings so great. But it's it's peavy, it's 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:28.200 heavy guitars and so something my teenage boys will love. Yeah, 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.080 they'll love it. They'll love it. Um. So, he and 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.240 I did two tracks rock songs for this project. And 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:39.080 you know when I say it's hard to put into words, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.000 I know that you really understand this. If I were 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.480 to really get deep into it, I'd get really emotional 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.600 because it's well, let's get deep into it. Well, the 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:52.480 privilege of it, the privilege of it. I think people 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.959 with young kids, especially teenagers, who are going through that 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.520 I roll stage right now where you're so stupid, you 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:02.760 don't know anything, mom, or you know, people who are 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.800 raising children in a divorce family and might feel like, 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.280 I am I doing enough? Am I contributing enough? Am 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:13.840 I there enough? Um? To hear your heart of what 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:18.359 it feels like when you become best friends with an 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:23.240 adult child, Ye tell me, tell me in your heart 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.919 what that's like. Well, there's there's two things. To watch 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:33.520 your children become adults, and to watch the kind of 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.040 people that they that they're becoming and have become, what 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.600 they stand for, what matters to them, and to be 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.200 really proud of that, and to and to say to yourself, 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.640 I'd be friends with them whether they were my kids 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.240 or not. But then to take it to another level 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:54.760 where you're very close and there's no subjects off limits, 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:59.120 there's no eggshells, there's no dancing around anything. We talk 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:05.040 about literally everything and anything. Um. The relationships that I 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:10.360 have formed with them over the years, I confide in them, 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.439 they confide in me, They get advice from me. Sometimes 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:18.520 I get advice from them there's a very affectionate, deep 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:26.320 love between my sons and me that is sort of indescribable. 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.000 I I only can relate to it in that my 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.800 father and I had that relationship. My father was my 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.159 best friend and I know I was his, except that 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.159 I lost my dad when I was thirty three, so 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.119 I kind of got ripped off. I didn't really get 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.280 as I was getting older. So many times when I 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.720 turned forty. When I turned fifty, I remember thinking, I 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.280 give anything to just have a conversation with my dad 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.520 about what's going on with me and what I'm thinking about. 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.600 Like it's real stuff, Like we're not afraid to be 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:56.840 vulnerable with each other. We're not afraid to cry in 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.280 front of each other. We're not afraid to just show 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.160 each other the love that we have for each other. 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:05.919 And it's it's a gift. It's just beautiful. Now cut 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.560 to being in a room with them where a minute 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.920 ago there was nothing, and now there's something amazing that 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:17.680 we created together. Are you kidding me? It's insane. It's 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:19.960 like I feel like the luckiest person on earth. You 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:24.200 are you are You are the luckiest person on earth 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:28.400 because you have so much good and love in your 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.919 life and you recognize it. Oh yeah, every minute. There 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:35.679 are so many people who are surrounded with goods, surrounded 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.280 with loves, surrounded with people that cherish them, and they 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:44.119 never recognize the depth of that blessing. There's nothing you 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.960 could give me, Richard, if somebody walked up and said, here, 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.520 here's a blank check, fill it out anything you want, money, riches, 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.840 a yacht, you name it. There is nothing in the 0:21:55.920 --> 0:22:01.280 world that has any tangible meaning to me outside of 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:05.520 the relationships that I have with my family and well, 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.679 I mean I didn't obviously, I was only with you 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:09.720 briefly in person the last time I saw you, but 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.200 I saw a sense of that. I couldn't wait to 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:16.199 tell Dajus that there's just this vibe in that in 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.920 that house, and just like there's a there's a real 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:25.199 sort of like team, like this is our tribe, you 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.159 know what I mean. I felt it even in the 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.639 brief time that I was there at your place. And 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.800 every day, I'm sure you did have the same thing 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:35.600 with your boys. Every day you discover something new and 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:39.600 you're like, yeah, I never even knew you had that Tallenger, 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.959 I never even knew you had that thought. Yeah, and 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:48.800 I'm just like whoa blown away? Blown away? Lucas came yesterday. 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.439 He met us on this tour. Jesse will meet us 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:55.200 on Monday in London, but just Lucas Medicine Amsterdam. I 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.119 played in Amsterdam last night. It was just one of 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.000 the It was one of my favorite shows of this tour. 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:01.480 And he was really jet lagged, but he was in 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.040 the wings, sitting next to Daisy. Daisy usually sits in 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:05.960 a chair in the wings and watches the show, watches 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:10.399 the audience, and it is this beautiful venue in Amsterdam. 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:15.280 Carrey Theater is absolutely remarkable, and the audience was insane 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:19.080 and we were having the greatest time, and they started 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:23.239 chanting Luca because I mentioned that he was there, and 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.480 he ended up coming out and we did the song 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.679 I wrote for instinct as I Promise You, and he 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:31.800 just jumped into he's done it with me before. It's 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.560 been a long time, but he just remembered all the 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.240 lyrics and he remembered his parts, and we did it 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.919 in an impromptu duet of this I Promise You and 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:43.040 you hadn't rehearsed it. No, no, no, no no, come on. 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.720 It was so great and the audience I had a couple. 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.399 I met a couple of the audience members as we 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:52.639 were leaving. The fans outside as we were getting in 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.879 the van, and I always signed stuff and take pictures 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.680 and stuff, and somebody said, watching you with your son 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.080 tonight is something I'll never forget, and I was like, Wow, 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.680 that's what a beautiful thing to say. You know, you 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:08.680 are a blessed, blessed man. We're having so much fun 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:12.040 catching up with Richard Mars. There's more to this conversation, 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.720 but before we finish our chat, I'm going to share 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:19.680 some love with one of my podcast sponsors. 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