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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: But you're a guest in my home.

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Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no, guests,

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Speaker 1: your presences presence enough.

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Speaker 3: And I already had too much stuff, So how do

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Speaker 3: you dare.

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Speaker 4: To surbey me?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. We're

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Speaker 2: here in the backyard. I'm starting to I'm really going

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Speaker 2: to assume at this point that my co host will

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Speaker 2: not be showing up. And that's fine. I'm in control.

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Speaker 2: We're having an incredible time on the podcast already. If

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Speaker 2: I hear a peep out of you, I'm gonna freak out.

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Speaker 2: I'll shut down the podcast. So just be quiet. Let's

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Speaker 2: get into it. I love today's guest. I really love him.

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Speaker 2: It's Patrick McDonald, Hi Bridge, Eric Patrick. Welcome to.

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Speaker 4: I said, no, thank you for having me. I'm thrilled.

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Speaker 2: What's the most traumatic thing that's ever happened to you?

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Speaker 4: The most traumatic thing?

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Speaker 2: Don't answer that. I just like the idea of starting

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Speaker 2: a podcast on that note, just.

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Speaker 4: So let's go there.

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Speaker 5: I feel like that is so many people's real way

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't imagine.

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Speaker 5: I know, and I think that the guest response too

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Speaker 5: the rest of the and then you then you get

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Speaker 5: into the frivolous. I think that's maybe a fun way

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Speaker 2: Would I would freeze up and I would probably just

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Speaker 5: The most dramatic thing I I, uh, this is a

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Speaker 5: little traumatic. But I one time was dating somebody and

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Speaker 5: that person said, let's tell each other the worst things

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Speaker 2: Know how far into the relationship this was three or

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Speaker 2: four weeks. Oh no, that's simply not the time. That

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Speaker 2: person is undercover. They are looking looking for information. There

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Speaker 2: is terrible person. They're very bad at their.

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Speaker 4: Job, terrible spy.

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Speaker 5: That person thought that I was involved with the KGV

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Speaker 2: And then did they do theirs?

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Speaker 5: They didn't know and I'm not interested. But now knowing

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Speaker 5: It could have been bad, and I think this person

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think I think trauma bonding is such

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Speaker 2: Now, well, I mean it's I think it's really a

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Speaker 4: And you're indebted to them because they have the secrets.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. I gave somebody a ride home once, and this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ferson just has them at the ready.

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Speaker 5: Yes, So that's why I make sure that all the

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Speaker 4: Cool, whatever, Fine, why are you telling me this news?

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Speaker 4: And guess what that didn't work? Wow?

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: You give me any information? I don't care how devastating

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Speaker 2: Let's get the news out there exactly. Let's start spreading it.

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Speaker 4: Start spreading it, New York style, New York, New York style.

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Speaker 2: I love a little bit of gossip. I love a

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Speaker 2: It's tasty, It's very tasty. Now it's taste. A piece

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Speaker 5: I blacklisted everybody else, all the custodians and mechanics that

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Speaker 5: I am late because I was buying a twelve foot

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Speaker 4: I have been looking for the skeleton for three years.

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Speaker 5: I was falling all over the Home Depot parking lote.

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Speaker 5: It's a massive deal and once people put it up,

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Speaker 2: How is she doing her like Valentine's Skeleton and this

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Speaker 4: You can get a total exclusive skeleton. You can have

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Speaker 2: She's more of a she's living it up in a

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Speaker 4: It's yards away from where George Bush lives.

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Speaker 5: I believe it I think she lives in like Preston

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Speaker 2: That's why it's part of her training to become these

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Speaker 2: Tell me how much one of these skeletons costs.

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Speaker 4: So that I'm gonna be honest with the skeleton is

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Speaker 4: To one thousand lectures item.

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Speaker 5: It's a collector's item. So if you buy it on

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Speaker 4: I think there have to be some of.

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Speaker 5: Your listeners who are a twelve foot skeleton crew, and

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Speaker 5: I like for you to rise up and defend me.

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Speaker 4: It's just very difficult.

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Speaker 5: I'm very proud, but I'm telling you I was on

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Speaker 4: I fell on the ground trying to push it in.

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Speaker 2: Does it fit onto? Like, it's not in a shopping cart? Obviously,

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Speaker 5: There were only six left when I got it. Wow, which,

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Speaker 4: Now? Does that mean it's sound as cool? Oh? And

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Speaker 5: So now I'm just gonna everyone's gonna be putting their

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Speaker 5: It's whalebone alone, very human bone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it has it has eyes that light up

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Speaker 2: They move around. I've never seen I don't think I've

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Speaker 4: Well, that's why they're sparse.

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Speaker 5: I do think I'm gonna put it in the little

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it. Maybe leaning over the fence.

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Speaker 5: The gazebo has gone a little crazy, Like there's a

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Speaker 4: There's a daddy fox in my arm. He wants to

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Speaker 2: I'm not leaving. I'll help you put up the skeleton,

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Speaker 2: whatever it takes. Just go a weekend, overnight.

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Speaker 5: Please please, he's only shaking one of those martini shakers.

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Speaker 4: It's too much.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm very excited for you. I'll have to come

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Speaker 5: I know I'm thinking about that too, because I'm six

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Speaker 4: Feet is, right, which makes you feel so stupid. I

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm I definitely have tall privilege, right, and

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Speaker 5: And I'm even to you, even to me, and then

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Speaker 5: Exactly, You're getting the worst angle. Like as a photographer,

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Speaker 2: Bubble. There's no bubble, I mean, and if you have

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it feels like that. Sometimes feels like a bit

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Speaker 2: I've never thought about that. That's very Meanwhile, everybody's getting

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Speaker 4: You don't want to shoot down. I also in on

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Speaker 5: I am told that when I meet somebody on zoom

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Speaker 4: And then we meet and they go, oh, you're really tall.

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Speaker 2: I was just talking to somebody that was telling me

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Speaker 4: I can't see you being tall, I will say.

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Speaker 2: That you could see me being a tall energy.

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Speaker 4: I can.

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Speaker 5: But but here's what I'm going to say. And I

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Speaker 5: don't want to take I don't want you to take

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Speaker 2: I think that that would be Yeah, this complexion should

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Speaker 5: I think it would be a little haunted manship it

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Speaker 5: I think so, I think so, And so I think

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Speaker 4: You very well.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's good to hear.

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Speaker 4: And the word is in you don't have to worry

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't.

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to take offense and I don't

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Speaker 5: after you, come after me. I've already already come out

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Speaker 5: I'm called you, Garne. This is not the way I

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Speaker 2: This is not how you should have entered the world stage.

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Speaker 2: And this is the world stage.

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Speaker 4: The world stage.

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Speaker 2: This is sort of you know, we're talking uns level.

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Speaker 2: Every nation hearing your voice right now.

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Speaker 5: Wow, everyone has those little translators, the translator. I love

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Speaker 5: those little translators.

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Speaker 2: I love watching the translator during a U N or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating things. I just heard a loud scream rest

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Speaker 2: in peace.

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Speaker 4: This is a spooky episode.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're octoberish, aren't we? On a

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Speaker 4: A lot of.

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Speaker 5: Spooky season came early this year, and and and October

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, I feel like everyone's ready for spooky season

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Speaker 4: Think we needed a treat and we needed a distraction.

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Speaker 2: Right and August went by in a flash. Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: They're doing something, they need something to be warm about.

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Speaker 2: And meanwhile the rest of us are like, we're going

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Speaker 2: the night exactly, And that's the next six weeks for us. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's it up until basically Thanksgiving. Probably October is so

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Speaker 2: hot in La Hot Hot. I saw someone in La

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Speaker 2: recently say goodbye summer and say, no, no, you're performing.

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Speaker 2: That's a performance. Summer's not over, just beginning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Where were they saying it? Just like they were?

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Speaker 2: They were someone on Instagram just like so maybe they

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Speaker 5: Goodbye summer shouting into a tree.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, everything you've done until right now has been a

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Speaker 2: massive distraction trying to get my uh my head off

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Speaker 2: of what's really happening on the podcast. The podcast is

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Speaker 2: called I said no gifts. Patrick, You and I have

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Speaker 2: known each other for a long time, probably probably over

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Speaker 2: a decade at this point.

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Speaker 4: It has been over a decade, maybe twelve years.

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Speaker 2: Should we sit here and try to figure it out

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Speaker 4: Tests, get down to brass tax I think it might

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Speaker 2: Okay, speak, I'm thinking, okay, So it's been a long time.

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Speaker 2: I have until this point been like, I trust Patrick.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell other people about him. Great guy, nothing to

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Speaker 2: worry about podcasts. As I said seconds ago, I said

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Speaker 2: no gifts. So we had the whole kerfuffle with your

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Speaker 2: And now here we are, we're just going to approach

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Speaker 2: the third nightmare, which is you obviously brought a gift

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Speaker 2: in a bag, a nondescript bag with no other details. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: obviously a gift for me. What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Well, I to be honest, would feel like a fool,

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Speaker 5: empty handed, and I thought it would be nice to

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Speaker 5: bring you this thing, and to be honest, these are

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Speaker 5: these are several things in here, and they're atle handcrafted helpful,

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Speaker 4: I don't think. I do think these would be really helpful.

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Speaker 5: For you in general to have, But I also think

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Speaker 5: that I guess maybe there's a little bit of show off,

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Speaker 4: I now have.

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Speaker 2: A little braggadocia, a.

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Speaker 5: Little bregadocia, a little a little you know, I love

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Speaker 5: a personalized gifts. That's the way I worked really hard

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Speaker 4: Came from me, not that I picked it from a store.

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Speaker 2: And then if the gift is bad, the person still

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Speaker 2: can't say.

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Speaker 4: Anything exactly and they can't return it.

449
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Speaker 2: They can't return.

450
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 4: Because it has no value.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, well should I open it here on

452
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Speaker 2: the podcast?

453
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Speaker 4: You can't open it? Please do?

454
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna pull there's a thin item, going to

455
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 2: guess which every one of these is. But this feels

456
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: it's probably a trading card thickness and but a little

457
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: bent on the edge, so it almost feels like it's

458
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Speaker 2: broken off of the sight of a car or something.

459
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Speaker 2: Let's see what's happening.

460
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Speaker 6: Oh okay, So it's a little I would say, almost

461
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Speaker 6: a decoration, like something you could place on a shelf

462
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Speaker 6: or above the toilet.

463
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Speaker 2: Tour hang from your rear view mirror. It's clear, like

464
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Speaker 2: a what is this? It's not translucent? Thank you? And

465
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 2: you've colored it in with some yellow and blue and greens,

466
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: and it says why is drama so delicious?

467
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 5: So let me tell you what the theme is right away.

468
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 5: I've gotten into shrinky dinks recently.

469
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Speaker 2: Wait, what is this?

470
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Speaker 4: Do you don't know what shrinky inks are?

471
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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

472
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 4: Kids do them draw on.

473
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 5: Like basically paper with watercolored pencil and you put them

474
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 5: in the oven and it shrinks them down.

475
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 4: Oh so I made a lot.

476
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 5: Of shrink eating art for you today, some of it

477
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 5: relating to the podcast, some of it relating to you.

478
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 5: I thought why is drama so Delicious? Would be a

479
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 5: fun phrase. I also want to reiterate. Unfortunately, when you

480
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Speaker 5: make shrinkat ink art. You have to write everything backwards,

481
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 5: so a lot of that is I did the question

482
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Speaker 5: mark backwards, the age backwards accidentally. I tried my hardest.

483
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 5: Everything I spelled. You have to remember I wrote backwards.

484
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: For the most part. You did an excellent job. I

485
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 2: would have never guessed it was close. And the initial

486
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 2: H is backwards, but you're so into reading the other

487
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: words you forget it.

488
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Speaker 4: It's drama, so big.

489
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Speaker 2: Drama is huge. Delicious is in cursive absolutely okay. So

490
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Speaker 2: shrinky dink shrinky dinks? Do you buy like a kit?

491
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Speaker 4: You buy a kit?

492
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I buy a kit and it comes with

493
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 5: giant lamonade piece of paper, okay. And then you have

494
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 5: watercolor pencils and you give stencils right, and you can

495
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 5: free hand or you can do something else.

496
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Speaker 2: Then you preheat the oven to what temperare three twenty

497
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 2: five and then you just place it like on the

498
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Speaker 2: on a cookie sheet. I want a cookie sheet for

499
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: not ruining ovens.

500
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, not ruining ovens for like one to

501
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 5: five minutes fast, and you watch them shrink really fast.

502
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Speaker 2: How big are they?

503
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 4: Initially they're like a regular sheet of paper, like eight

504
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Speaker 4: and a half by eleven, or however that.

505
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 2: This was eight and a half by eleven and.

506
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 4: That was big, and now it's the quarter of the size.

507
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, listener, if you're as ignorant as I am, the

508
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: shrinky dink is very small at this point. Yes, it's

509
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 2: probably the size of a mirror you would pull from

510
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Speaker 2: your purse.

511
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 5: Yes it is. It's basically a purse mirror. Yeah, exactly,

512
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Speaker 5: and I think everyone knows that measurement.

513
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Speaker 2: Carry that in my purse.

514
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 4: Your mirrors full of persons.

515
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Speaker 2: I'm just rooting through my bag pulling that out in

516
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Speaker 2: front of a cashier. Where's my wallet?

517
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Speaker 4: Oh there, I am, there's the money.

518
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I love this. Why is drama so delicious?

519
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: What do you think?

520
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: I for me? Why is drama so delicious? It's because

521
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: my life is so unbelievably dull. I love when somebody

522
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: brings a man into my situation that I get to

523
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: observe from afar.

524
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

525
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: I feel like we've both brought drama into each other's

526
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: lives that somebody else's and it's always a great feeling. Yeah.

527
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've we've had some lunches together where we sit

528
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 5: down and we we we eat as much food as

529
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 5: we eat drama.

530
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels very nice. And it's a release. Yeah,

531
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Speaker 2: it is a release, and it's uh, you know, that's

532
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: why I read tabloids exactly. Okay, let me get back

533
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Speaker 2: into the book.

534
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Speaker 4: Okay. What I think you should maybe do is pour

535
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 4: all of those out onto you think sort of base.

536
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: Well you can or you can put on.

537
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Speaker 2: I found a very small one. Okay, let's see what

538
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: this was one? Oh, very cute. It's a little pig.

539
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 5: In a one piece and that's a stencil kind of

540
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 5: a unitar Yeah, that's a pig at a one piece.

541
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Speaker 5: So that's for you. And and again handmade. That's the

542
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 5: stens of the stencil.

543
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Speaker 4: Was there?

544
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Speaker 2: But it pink and green?

545
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, the color of pink and green.

546
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 2: Okay, but this isn't like this has nothing to do

547
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: with Pepa Pig no X brand.

548
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 4: It is not related to Peppa Pig at all.

549
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 5: And there is a little hole on the top if

550
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 5: you want to make it a key chain or some

551
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 5: sort of in your necklace.

552
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: Maybe do you have any keychain stuff? What's on your keychain?

553
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 5: We have this Texas keychain for this musician Charlie Crockett.

554
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: Is that also a bottle opener.

555
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 5: This is a bottle opener too. It was very conditioned

556
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 5: in the shape of Texas and it has CC on it.

557
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: For Charlie Crockett.

558
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Speaker 2: I don't feel like I have anything currently on my

559
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: keychain other than like my library card I read, Yeah,

560
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: I read a Ralph's card, Save my Big Savings, and

561
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Speaker 2: then a third rock climbing gym.

562
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, which we've done to.

563
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then you bailed.

564
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 5: And well I bailed, but also let's talk about it.

565
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 5: We got the top road certification. We both went together.

566
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Speaker 5: We were going for a while. We got certified to

567
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Speaker 5: help each other do the top roping. And during the test,

568
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 5: I accidentally let you fall a little bit and you've never.

569
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 2: Let you live in is carefully chosen word. We don't

570
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Speaker 2: know what was actually happening.

571
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Speaker 5: A fifteen year old girl that was that was supervising us,

572
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Speaker 5: that was going to give us a certification, was talking

573
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Speaker 5: to me about something, and you jumped because because there's

574
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Speaker 5: the whole thing where you're supposed to surprise me with

575
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 5: a jump.

576
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: That's right, that's a weird surprised the jump while she

577
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 2: was talking, Oh wow, I forgot about this.

578
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you were in free fall and you

579
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: freaked out.

580
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of a master of surprise, you are. I

581
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: shocked you in a way that almost ended my life.

582
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, and pan oh man, would that event on

583
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 5: my hands? I?

584
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

585
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 2: We were all climbed together for a while, and we

586
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: usually do bouldering, which is without the ropes. We both

587
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 2: passed the test with the top roping where you're pulling

588
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: each other up and down the wall, and then never

589
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: tried it again on it now, I don't know any

590
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: of the things.

591
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: No, I don't remember any of them at all.

592
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: So I would have to retrain.

593
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 4: There's all the stuff you have to repeat to each

594
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Speaker 4: other and see.

595
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: There's like it's almost like a trust exercise, which gets

596
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: a little uncomfortable. Yeah, there's a lot of like looking

597
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: into each other's eyes and saying I did this.

598
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Speaker 4: Did you feel very bonding? It felt very like we

599
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 4: are in this together.

600
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: Right. If you immediately broke my trust, it's hard to live.

601
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Speaker 2: I'm still going to the rock climbing gym. I don't

602
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 2: give up, Okay, I you know I choose to do

603
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: something and I follow through.

604
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: Sure, I'm going to let that pass as a slight

605
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

606
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's what you meant it as

607
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 5: it felt like I could event but I'm going to

608
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 5: choose just to let it go right by because there

609
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 5: are many things that I commit to, and some people

610
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 5: call me the most committed in many ways, many capacities.

611
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: Biking is one that I do.

612
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm just, you know, personal experience from my little keyhole

613
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: into your life. Sure, I've seen you give up immediately.

614
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 4: Okay, immediately, Okay.

615
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 5: I want to remind you that I've been rock climbing

616
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 5: on an off since twenty fifteen.

617
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Speaker 4: So as much as like Gwen, I do restart, well.

618
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 2: I'm still having a good time there. But I will

619
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Speaker 2: say anytime there are children present, my enjoyment it drops

620
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Speaker 2: by probably forty percent.

621
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Speaker 4: And that's the question.

622
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Speaker 5: How can you take control and let kids know not

623
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Speaker 5: to mess with you without violating any sort of thing.

624
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: Right, without being like the mean adults with water that

625
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: they have.

626
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't be the kind of grumpy guy.

627
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: I would embrace witch character, the witch at the rock Climbing.

628
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: The rock climbing Witch.

629
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 2: That's a children's book. It's about and it's based on you.

630
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: It's about a witch that starts rock climbing, and then

631
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: she decides to give up, and then she has to

632
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: learn to commit to make it to the top of

633
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: the cliff to get.

634
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 5: To her Who knew that witches still need to learn

635
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 5: lessons after all they've lived.

636
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to write that book. She leaves her broom

637
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: at the top of the cliff and has to climb

638
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: back up. That's really good, interesting.

639
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 4: Story, very interesting, and the moral is never give.

640
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: Up, never give up, never give up. Okay, so I'm

641
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: still rock climbing. I'm doing all these great things. Let's

642
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: get back into the bag. Okay, Okay, this is a

643
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: bigger one. Oh and I should say the pig was

644
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: very tiny. Pig is smaller, little pig. And I'm pulling

645
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: out another thing. This says, Oh, this is very nice.

646
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: I made you a personalized placard.

647
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: It says I said no gifts with Bridger Weineger. And

648
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: almost every letter is headed the right direction outside of

649
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: the final g in my name h on the wid

650
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: Oh so this may be thrown away, yeah astroid, Yeah,

651
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: not perfect, thrown into the ocean.

652
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, oh yeah, this is good.

653
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: That's where I take all my plastics.

654
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 4: This is great, Yeah, they're gonna love this.

655
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: Or I'll take it to one of those greats that

656
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: says no dumping with the dolphin on it. And I said, well,

657
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm the exception to the rule.

658
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 4: Here's my garbage, all goes into the ocean. You're just

659
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: going to push all this plastic into a So.

660
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 2: This is very sweet. I have a couple of shelves

661
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: in my office where I've been collecting all my gifts

662
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: and this can go right up there, perfect to kind

663
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: of I've always felt like, should there a burglar come

664
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: into that, they'll see all this kind of just these

665
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: items I have no relation to each other, and they'll

666
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: be baffled. Yes, And I want to think about the

667
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: burglar in this moment than what if they saw this

668
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: and they're a listener to the podcast and then it

669
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: clicks for that.

670
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 5: And they'll be like, wow, if they're the listener that

671
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 5: what if they're listening to you while they're burgling?

672
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: What right thing to do while you're burgling? Put in

673
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: your air pods or other brand? I don't care. And

674
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: then you're getting into somebody's home. You're a cat burglar.

675
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: You need something, you're bored, you're alone, you're in your

676
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: black unitard and you're listening to me and Patrick, that's

677
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: a great thing. That's a great tip for a.

678
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: Burglar, such a stressful job.

679
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: I actually think, and I want to hear your your

680
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: response to this, but I think if I were to

681
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: become a career criminal, cat burglar, I mean, no question,

682
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: that's what I am.

683
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: Career criminal.

684
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: Mm hm, what would you be?

685
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: Cat burglar? As in stealing little things here and there?

686
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: No, as in, like you know, I'm in the full suit,

687
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 2: head to toe, black sleek, I'm frequently on all fours,

688
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: crawling around, very stealthy, agile like dropping from the ceiling frequently,

689
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: like in a museum, m stealing the most rare jewel.

690
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: That would be number one for me.

691
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 4: That sounds fun.

692
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 5: I would probably get into money laundering because you could,

693
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 5: you could build some wild business. There was there was

694
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 5: a business in Boston. I went to school in Boston,

695
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: and there's a business in the North End that I

696
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 5: used to walk by all the time. It was just

697
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: called what do you need? And it said like dog sitting.

698
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: Babysitting, clients repair.

699
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 5: It was a guy I think that bought a store

700
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 5: front and just said, what do you need and you

701
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 5: would walk in and you'd say, what I need to

702
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 5: work on cyber I need like someone to work them

703
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 5: on my computer, and I'll do that.

704
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: This is kind of the original version of like a

705
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: task grab what was that fiver or whatever just pay

706
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: people to do.

707
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 4: But he just was a man that sat in a store.

708
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: Did you ever have him do something for? No?

709
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 5: But I used to walk by all the time, and

710
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 5: I looked it up the other day and and unfortunately,

711
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 5: I think task grab it did shut what do you

712
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 5: need down?

713
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 4: Oh boy? Because he's probably got a lot on his plate, right,

714
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: and he probably can't compete.

715
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: With brick and mortar.

716
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 4: Brick and mortar, but something like that or.

717
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: Something really fun, like some weird store that sells very

718
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 5: specific trinkets or something like that. And then all day

719
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: you sit around and kind of just kind of fuck around,

720
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 5: or you sit in the front and you just smoke

721
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 5: a cigarette with your friends, and then you say, you're

722
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 5: a store that sounds kind of fun.

723
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: That does sound nice. You get to pick the music

724
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: that's coming over the speakers, you get to kind of

725
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: design the store, You get to respond to Yelp reviews

726
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: like I'm sorry that your experience wasn't great. I dm

727
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: to you, let's take care of this, that kind of thing.

728
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 5: And you're never going to get fired unless your bosses

729
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 5: get arrested, right right, So, so because they don't care

730
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 5: how the business is going.

731
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: So it's the perfect situation. You can do whatever you want.

732
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: Oh so, in this situation, you're not the head of

733
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: the criminal enterprise. No, you're being used.

734
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: I'm being used. But I still think it's criminal.

735
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it is criminal. You've agreed to do this. Yeah,

736
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: but I was just assuming that you had some illicit

737
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: business that you were then washing through your jewelry.

738
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: No, I'm just washing. I'm just washing. I think that's

739
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: all I would want to do.

740
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to do any sort of illicit business

741
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 5: where I'm moving money around, right, stealing things.

742
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: But I think I could be a good face for

743
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: something interesting. Okay, I think that's an nice business. And Nope,

744
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: not that many people get hurt, No, not really, except

745
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: for all of the people that were defrauded by your

746
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: boss exactly.

747
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, so was I.

748
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you are a victim here. You can be

749
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: counted among the other victims.

750
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: I'm ready to be a victim.

751
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 5: Happy to be a purp until I become a victim.

752
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: I'm curady to go.

753
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's reach into the bag again.

754
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: I don't think you understand how many things are.

755
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't care. This podcast can be nine hours. Okay,

756
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: let's do the boss.

757
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: Let's buckle up.

758
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see this is I'll see you in court

759
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: crossed out. Then it says i'll see you in shorts.

760
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: That's a fun phrase. I think I came up with

761
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: that and as I was drawing it.

762
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: That's a great That is a great decoration. That's a

763
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: fun thing that could be on any pillow.

764
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 4: I can see it being on a kitchen, in the kitchen,

765
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: on a pillow. I'll see you in shorts is kind

766
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 4: of a fun it's.

767
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Kind of sexual harassment.

768
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 5: You're like, what's the what's the situation where instead of

769
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 5: saying I'll see you in court, you're.

770
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: Saying it's almost more of a threat.

771
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: Seen someone in shorts.

772
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when are like, you're going to be

773
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: spying on me or you're going to force me into them?

774
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: How are you going to get me into the.

775
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 5: Shop instead of suing you, I'm taking you on vacation

776
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 5: as kind of another way you can think of it.

777
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: That's a funny thing to something to do to somebody

778
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: who's wronged you. They're like Patrick's coming for me. I

779
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: know he's hiring a lawyer, and then you take them

780
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: on vacation instick exactly.

781
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: And that's very unnerving.

782
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: Because I think you're going to kill them on like

783
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: out on to put off the cruise.

784
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I think that have you ever done that? Where?

785
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 5: And that is that is a reaction, not that exact thing,

786
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 5: but that's a reaction I have sometimes where I go,

787
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 5: this person has been so awful to me, I'm going

788
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 5: to be so unbelievably nice to them for so long,

789
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 5: and I just really feel like it's revenge.

790
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: I try to do that, and unfortunately my hatred is

791
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: always so large that it does not allow the energy

792
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: to be kind.

793
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 5: I get very jealous of people that can be chill

794
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 5: with their hatred, that can quietly hate someone, because I'm

795
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 5: somebody that's like this will not stand.

796
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: But see, I like, if I tried. I'm also so

797
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: unbelievably fragile that when they're horrible to me, while I'm

798
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: doing this fake nice thing. I'm crying. I'm immediately crying,

799
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: tears in my eyes, my voice is cracking. I'm like, oh,

800
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: they win again.

801
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 4: It's too hard. So I guess you. I guess you'll

802
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: just see them in court.

803
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: Short, I need an attorney to as the middleman. Okay,

804
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: we're reaching Taylor. I had the shorts made for you.

805
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: They fit your thighs perfectly. Yeah, exactly, Okay, reaching back in. Now,

806
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: this actually feels like a keychain. Let's see.

807
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 5: Oh this is Bridger, Fridger, I made you a personalized keychain.

808
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 4: That's great.

809
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has to go on my keys, and it

810
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: has a little I would say this is either a

811
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 2: worm crawling across a baguette or like a red rock

812
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: in the desert.

813
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are great choices. I was going for spaghetti,

814
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: but I didn't have whites.

815
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 5: I couldn't make a plate, so it's just a loose

816
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: pile of spaghetti with meat balls and sauce.

817
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: I see it now, I do see it now. But

818
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: what a nice uh worship test of Yeah, exactly, certainly,

819
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: we know exactly what I'm thinking. Exactly, gross thoughts I'm having.

820
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you could, and I think there's another

821
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 4: key chain in there.

822
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna you're like, yeah, this came with a

823
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: whole set another keychain.

824
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: Oh here it is.

825
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: Oh this is bad boys, So I don't even need

826
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: the bridge. Everyone knows who this.

827
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 5: Is a bad boy. And I actually did screw this up.

828
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 5: I put the hole on the bottom instead of the top.

829
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: Well that's a bad boy, moved.

830
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 5: And putting it on right was maybe the best one

831
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 5: I did, because it's got to think in a blue vibe.

832
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 5: The bees are just sensational and I just think it's

833
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: really fun.

834
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: There's a nasty energy here that nobody can deny. Exactly

835
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: planning that to a valet and they're like, oh yeah, yeah,

836
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: this guy.

837
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 5: Do not trying to emulate those kind of rancid stickers

838
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 5: you could get for fifty cents that will come out

839
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 5: in those little sleeves. I don't I'm familiar like at

840
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 5: skadiums or whatever, like roller Ring.

841
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: You're seeing a lot of words though I don't understand.

842
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I obviously know what a skadium is, but

843
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: I've never heard that before.

844
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: There's those things that are like like I think maybe

845
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 5: there's a place in Arlington, tex where I'm from that's

846
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 5: just called the Skadium.

847
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: Skadium, the Arlington Stadium.

848
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: We had classic skating, classic skating, that's all.

849
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 5: Maybe a roller away, yeah yeah, I think maybe the

850
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 5: Skadium is branded. Maybe please don't come after me Skadium

851
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 5: if you can, if you've mobilized. But I but you

852
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 5: see those, you know, it's just like the weird garbage

853
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 5: pale kids.

854
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: Oh right. Or there's like kind of like a like

855
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: an angel that's in some risk clothing.

856
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 4: Totally always a tweetybird in a hoodie or something.

857
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: I love her, yeah, yeah, love, Oh.

858
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: You love tweety bird. That's interesting. Keep digging.

859
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, go back into this. Okay, I'm there.

860
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: I feel like there are two things, and there are

861
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: actually quite a few things. Ok I'm gonna pull one out,

862
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: and I know this is I said no gifts again.

863
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: It's a little banner. This is almost like a miniature

864
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: thing that could go on a train set. Oh yeah,

865
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: perfect little flag or what it is a again, is

866
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: a piece of merch essentially keychain.

867
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 4: And you can sell this.

868
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sell this.

869
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 5: I figured you could sell if this is any of

870
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 5: the stuff you could Yeah. I thought I'd come on

871
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: and just build you some merch.

872
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: That's very cute.

873
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's nice.

874
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to force somebody else to put that on

875
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: their keychain as advertising.

876
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: Well that's a good idea. Someone who really owes you something. Yeah,

877
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: screwed up big time.

878
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm pulling out. Oh no, this isn't even

879
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: smaller keychain that says crushable with a small happy face on.

880
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: How many keychains do you think? I, well, you have

881
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 2: a lot more.

882
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: Now I think this one is.

883
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 5: You know, I got into a tear of writing little phrases,

884
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of tiny phrases in here that

885
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 5: you can ascribe to or not ascribe to, and you

886
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 5: canme in assign these other people.

887
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: This is perfect for when Jim leaves me perfect I like,

888
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: I have to take everything else else off my keychain.

889
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: I put this on as kind of a pathetic attempt

890
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: to get somebody else to look at.

891
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 5: It's gonna be like the black smoke of Bridger being single.

892
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 5: It's gonna be like the coming from the from the chimney.

893
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 5: Everyone notices the tidy crush of lite keychain on your It's.

894
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: So small that whoever notices it has to really be

895
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: observing me. Exactly, and they'll realize how this person's desperate.

896
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 4: You're catching them.

897
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got to catch Okay, now we're reaching back in.

898
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went I went hogwild. I'll tell you how

899
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 4: easy it is to make shrinkydinks. You just kind of keep.

900
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I think this maybe this is a bird, yeah,

901
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: with a little yellow bird with big eyes and you

902
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: know an orange beak. Is this tweetybird?

903
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 4: If you're gonna believe it.

904
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 5: I drew that tweetybird completely from memory and without a sensil.

905
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 5: So there was a period of time where I just

906
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: kind of started drawing what I would imagine things would

907
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 5: be for you. I said, I think he's gonna want

908
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 5: some sort of version of a tweety bird.

909
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: Well, you know something that I used to do a

910
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: lot was create on demand Valentines for people, and I'd say,

911
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: what's your favorite cartoon or video game character? And then

912
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 2: within seconds this is I'm very good at it. I've

913
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: created a drawing of your favorite cartoon or video game

914
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: character with a Valentine's phrase related to the character. No way,

915
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: maybe I'll do that for you during the Now that's

916
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: a little involved doesn't want that, so this is kind

917
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: of related to that.

918
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: That's kind of related. Did you have a cartoon character

919
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 5: that was your calling card? I feel like every kid

920
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 5: had a cartoon character they could draw.

921
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 2: Really Tasmanian devil, No way, he's my favorite. He's pretty

922
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: easy to draw. Okay, his eyes are one thing, so

923
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: you don't have to do two eyes, and then the

924
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: noses right there in the middle. And he's kind of

925
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: just a chicken drum top.

926
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 4: Everyone describes him as that.

927
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: And when I was in about fourth grade, it was

928
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: kind of the peak of before it was an ironic

929
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: thing to do wear Looney Tuned shirts where they're in

930
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: various street where totally jerseys, and they were like flashing

931
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: gang signs or what have you.

932
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 5: Luney Tunes just really had kind of a public domain

933
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: moment where it was like the University of Nevada had bugs,

934
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 5: bunnies lighting a cigarettell everywhere.

935
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: What was yours?

936
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 5: I knew how to draw? I think it was this dragon.

937
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't know how to draw any specific characters. Oh,

938
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: but it was this dragon that I learned from some

939
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 5: sort of art book.

940
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 4: Oh, how boring.

941
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 5: It was very boring, and I and I remembered I

942
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 5: had a very specific way of drawing children and people,

943
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 5: and their eyes.

944
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 4: Were so big and they looked like boobs looking back

945
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 4: at it. I made the eyes so big.

946
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: Eyes almost always looked like boobs when you first start

947
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: start drawing. And that's why you have to get to

948
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: the rest of the face features quickly, yes, because otherwise

949
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: if somebody observes you, let's say you're drawing in class

950
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: or like pervert, but they could get a nose in

951
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: their mouth or like oh.

952
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

953
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: And it's unfair that people jump to that conclusion. It

954
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: is unfair.

955
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 4: I will say to counter that.

956
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: When I was in oh Man, I must have been

957
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 5: in maybe kindergarten or first grade. My mom was a

958
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 5: teacher at a kind of an inner city school in

959
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 5: Fort Worth. It was only six graders, and I went

960
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 5: with her to class and I was, for some reason,

961
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 5: sitting in the back of the class. She was just

962
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 5: letting us kind of walk around class, which is for

963
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 5: a twelve year old probably was a little much. But

964
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 5: this kid was like, look at this, and he had

965
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: drawn like a naked woman's boobs and and and vagina

966
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 5: entire anatomy and in her entire anatomy. No had no arms.

967
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 5: Oh okay, so no nothing below the need not for

968
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: to women. And I said, and I told him that,

969
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 5: I said, hold on a minute.

970
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: Sir, this is not a feminist message.

971
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: I said, this is not feminist. I told him I was.

972
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: I was, I was six, and I said, this is

973
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: I cannot stand for this.

974
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: What was your actual reaction?

975
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 4: I remember being like, what is that?

976
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 5: Kind of being like what you know? And then and

977
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 5: then we just kind of moved on. But just thinking

978
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 5: about a twelve year old drawing a naked woman for

979
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 5: a six year old, you know what's going on in all.

980
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: Of that circle of life. I feel like that's exactly

981
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: what needs to be happening. I'm trying to wonder if,

982
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: like who the like pervert boy was for me, like

983
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 2: showing me all those things. And I can't really recall.

984
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think within Mormonism that always everybody's very

985
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: on alert about showing that kind of thing publicly. So

986
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: I don't remember there ever being like an older boy

987
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: being like, look at this. I do remember being in

988
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: a tent at boy Scout camp and every other one

989
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: of the boys was talking about their basically their sexual fantasies.

990
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: We were like in seventh grade and I'm sitting there gay,

991
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: have no interest in women whatsoever, silent After the camping trip,

992
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: my dad was there. I'm the one who gets it

993
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 2: firm talking to Really, I'm the one who gets in trouble.

994
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: I didn't say a peep. Meanwhile, Sam, is you know,

995
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: perving it up? So I guess that's kind of my

996
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: whole thing. So I was out of it for a while.

997
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 5: Did you ever have that experiences where people were like

998
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 5: looking at nude magazines together? Because I'm gonna be honest,

999
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 5: I was never quite involved with that. I think I

1000
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 5: was at some sort of maybe middle school or high

1001
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 5: school party where like we turned on Skinemax right right,

1002
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 5: just kind of sitting around watching it. But I always

1003
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 5: was like, and because I'm like, you know, a little

1004
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 5: quiet queer boy too, being like, am am I supposed

1005
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 5: to like have an erection right now?

1006
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 4: Is it important for me? Will they notice? Well? Do

1007
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: we all have the performativeness of this?

1008
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1009
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 5: How do I need to engage in this to make

1010
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 5: sure that I'm right there with everybody?

1011
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: This did? Like my friend group began like in late

1012
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: elementary beginning middle school, Like we're watching late night cable yeah,

1013
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: and I it allowed me because I naturally had no

1014
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: interest in it whatsoever. But like that didn't click for

1015
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: me that it was just who I was. It allowed me,

1016
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: And this probably just speaks volumes about who I am.

1017
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: I kind of just felt like I was taking the

1018
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: high road. It's like he's making the right choice. Yeah,

1019
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: but it's because it was the easiest thing in the

1020
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: world for me to be, like, oh, I don't want

1021
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: to see naked women on.

1022
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: Cable exactly moral. No, I won't be doing that. Sorry, guys,

1023
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 4: I like respecting a woman.

1024
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to heaven.

1025
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: You guys have fun with cable. I'm going to heaven.

1026
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: I hope this feels good for now. It's going to

1027
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 4: burn it.

1028
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 2: It's going to be very hot in a little while,

1029
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 2: especially if you die hardly like a playground incident.

1030
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you are toast, bunny, You are toast.

1031
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's reach back into the bag.

1032
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: Okay.

1033
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: Oh, I think we're uh two left?

1034
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 4: I think there's more than two.

1035
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding, Okay, I mean I'm going to take

1036
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: out two at this point. One's a bunny. Is this

1037
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: supposed to be bugs?

1038
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: That's supposed to be bugs?

1039
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: I love Bugs. Bunny Bugs is great. I love when

1040
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: he dresses up as a lady.

1041
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: He's great.

1042
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: He's very funny, he's fantastic, he's he does it all.

1043
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: He's rascal. Yeah, and then I I did. I'm now

1044
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: this is triggering a memory. I had a crush on

1045
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: pepe Le Pew, who has been canceled because he was

1046
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: kind of a rape figure. That's true. I think I

1047
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 2: think they're like, let's get this guy.

1048
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: I know he's canceled.

1049
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: A crush, a crush on him. He's maybe like kindergartener

1050
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: first grade because he was so he was like a

1051
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: handsome guy who was so sexual. He was after all

1052
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 2: the ladies. He was very cute.

1053
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 4: He was very confident too. Yeah.

1054
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: Wow, I had forgotten about that completely.

1055
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: Wow.

1056
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: That's crazy interesting. And now he's gone. You can't you

1057
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: can't do anything anymore. You can't be a skunk that

1058
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: harasses women.

1059
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. The times have changed.

1060
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: He started a not right podcast.

1061
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 4: You can't say anything anymore.

1062
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: And then the other thing is another key chain, that

1063
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: is angel.

1064
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 4: It says angel Heaven, speaking of Heaven.

1065
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: Well, this is kind of like a like a late nineties,

1066
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: early thousands, like you went to the skate center and

1067
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: bought some trashy exactly.

1068
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 5: I got kind of in the zone doing it yesterday,

1069
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 5: just cooking by the oven, you know, And that's the

1070
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 5: fun thing.

1071
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: I cooked my art.

1072
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: I want to try this you got it actually has

1073
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: shrinky dinks.

1074
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: Shrinky dinks, And I don't think this is the real brand.

1075
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: I think this is a knockoff. Shrinkyd Ink is copyrighted.

1076
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: Is it kind of like? I mean, this reminds me

1077
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: of creepy crawlers? Did you ever do those?

1078
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Oh?

1079
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? Is that like the boys? Easy big oven.

1080
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: Right where you do little worms? Yeah? Yeah, stuff. Boys

1081
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: couldn't make cookies, no, no, no, boys had to make

1082
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: worms useless rubber cookies are gay. Although the I mean,

1083
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: the colorful worms were a little gay. I'm making all

1084
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: sorts of rainbow esque.

1085
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 4: Worms worms, you know.

1086
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I loved the creepy crawlers.

1087
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: I know. We gotta we gotta destigmatized crafts in general.

1088
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 2: Yea, everybody loves a craft. Yes, give me a break.

1089
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: You're at a table with friends making something.

1090
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1091
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: I think we're as a society turning towards crafts. It's

1092
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: like we can all do a craft.

1093
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: I think so I think so, and I hope so.

1094
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 5: I think I actually do think the new generation is

1095
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 5: very open to anything. If you like whatever, be into whatever,

1096
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 5: make a craft totally totally. I think when I was

1097
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 5: in Texas there was a lot of fear of anything

1098
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 5: anything else, you know what I mean, very very scary.

1099
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only time we really as boys did a

1100
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: craft was on the fourth of July. Grandma had a

1101
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: craft to do, and I think that was the only

1102
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 2: time we were really allowed to do the craft interesting,

1103
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: unless it was like a school project.

1104
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: We did have a.

1105
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 5: This is where like Texas culture dips into like flamboyants

1106
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: and stuff.

1107
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 4: We had cub Scouts. We had a Blue and Gold

1108
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: Bank whet. We had a cake banking competition. Oh, it

1109
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 4: was very exciting.

1110
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: Do you remember what your cake was?

1111
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 4: I had multiple cakes that I competed in.

1112
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 5: I did one, I believe about one of them was

1113
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 5: like American Heroes, and I think I did one about

1114
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 5: the creation of penicillin.

1115
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh.

1116
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 5: I made a cake with jelly beans and I made

1117
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 5: a syringe out of jelly beans or something like that.

1118
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: Oh, that's very cute, my brothers.

1119
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was definitely it was a Blue and

1120
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 5: Gold bank when so it was a blue and gold

1121
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 5: syringe or something.

1122
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: Right, was allergic to penicil and it's all tying together. Wowing,

1123
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: how everything kind of connects.

1124
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 4: Interesting, freaking out, this is so crazy.

1125
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: What a very spiritual podcast.

1126
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 4: I'm having an experience.

1127
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: Okay, well I think this may be the final two. Okay,

1128
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: once uh once is get a life. These are both

1129
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: keychains and one is just says shut up.

1130
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so that was Those are a little more sassy,

1131
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 5: just in case you want to be a little sasy,

1132
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 5: and you can.

1133
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: Change your key chains every day if you want. Remorse

1134
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 4: will be raw.

1135
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: Getting a keychain on is one of the hardest things

1136
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: you can possibly do.

1137
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 4: How have we not fixed that? I mean this horrible circle.

1138
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Oh the metal ring. Somebody needs shark tank opportunity. Let's

1139
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: get rid of the metal, horrible ring that sticks into

1140
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: your fingers. Let's do something that you can that's durable

1141
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 2: but is not dangerous.

1142
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 4: Totally. I think you should just dump out on the

1143
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: floor if there's any more.

1144
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 2: In there here, I'm gonna I'm not dumping. I'm not dumping.

1145
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 4: No dumping.

1146
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm dumping because I couldn't feel anything.

1147
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: Maybe there's nothing more that's it.

1148
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: Was there some other thing that you were like, this

1149
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 2: will be the final thing and it'll rule the podcast.

1150
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 4: Is angel, and then there should be one that says devil.

1151
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, but maybe the devil disappeared.

1152
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 2: Oh now, I mean after what we've been Yeah, that's

1153
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: a little spiritual podcast. Okay, it's gone.

1154
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 4: Wow, that's freaky.

1155
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, make of that what you will, Believe it or not.

1156
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: There's a very dark energy right now. Absolutely, there's a

1157
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: dark mist surround it.

1158
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: I can't believe.

1159
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: I don't like where this is heading. Okay, Yeah, I've

1160
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: done simply digging, and I'm very good at rooting around

1161
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: in a bag. Yeah yeah, yeah, because that's all I

1162
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: do all day to find a little personal bag.

1163
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 4: I'm to find it hanging over me and then it's gone. Okay,

1164
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: it's gone. I believe you.

1165
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: People get that vibe from me anyway. They see, they

1166
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: look and they're like, who's this little devil? Devil? Yeah,

1167
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter. I don't need a lady.

1168
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 4: Well there you go.

1169
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: This is incredible. What a treasure trove of useful items?

1170
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, really useful, right, I think that's what's nice.

1171
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 5: And I'm thinking if anybody wants one, just let me

1172
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 5: know and I'll just send one to you can send

1173
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 5: it hundreds and I'll send him.

1174
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: You'll let let's let this ruin your life.

1175
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let that.

1176
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take this over. I'm gonna let this kind

1177
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 5: of be my thing. I've decided this is who I

1178
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 5: am now. And so if you have what your life

1179
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 5: to service, yeah, this is service to me. It's and

1180
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 5: I can write this off and this is five oh

1181
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 5: one C three, it's all.

1182
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: It's a nonprofit.

1183
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: All right. Well, I think it's time to play a game.

1184
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: Are you capable of playing a game?

1185
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 4: I am?

1186
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into it here this game we're gonna

1187
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: play Gift or a Curse? Great, and I need a

1188
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: number between one and ten from you.

1189
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 4: Let's do three.

1190
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let me beat beep beep. Get into the dock

1191
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: here right now. You can recommend something, promote something. I

1192
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: encourage both, do whatever you want with the microphone. I'll

1193
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 2: be right.

1194
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: Oh great.

1195
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 5: So I am part of an improv podcast. The Bridger

1196
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 5: has been a guest on It's called Artist on Artists

1197
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 5: on Artists and Artists. It is an improvised roundtable where

1198
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 5: me and my friends Jeremy Colhayne, Kylie Brakeman and Angela

1199
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 5: Gierratana always pick a different topic. When Bridger came on, he.

1200
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: Did food stylists.

1201
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 5: He played a very wonderful character named Michelle Brett who

1202
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 5: was a very prolific food stylist. Every episode is a

1203
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 5: different type of artists. So we have wedding DJs and

1204
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 5: directors and writers and people who all played one line

1205
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 5: waiters in movies and all sorts of stuff. So check

1206
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 5: that out where you get your podcasts. And I'm also

1207
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 5: DJ on Radio Margaritaville on series six times. Check that

1208
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 5: out SIS Channel twenty four.

1209
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: Very nice, both great things.

1210
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, fun stuff.

1211
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: I love your podcast. It's so funny and it was

1212
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: such an enjoyable time doing it, and no complaints.

1213
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 4: You are hilarious. It was so great.

1214
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: My recommendation this week, I think I actually know exactly

1215
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: what it is, and it's to not count on a

1216
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: bank for a public restaurant. Really, for some reason, and

1217
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: maybe this is only banks I've ever visited. They don't

1218
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: have public restrooms, so do not which I tried to

1219
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: do recently. I was waiting for somebody in the Costco

1220
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: parking lot. I needed to pee. I thought I'll go

1221
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: into the bank and use their bathroom. It didn't exist.

1222
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: Banks need to watch themselves.

1223
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 5: If they don't make themselves amenable, there's no reason for them.

1224
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 4: To be around here.

1225
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 5: Are villain Honestly, it's basically a wee work. It's so

1226
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 5: because all you do is you go in and apply

1227
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 5: for loans. You can do that in any conference room.

1228
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 5: Otherwise all the money is digital. So so you better

1229
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 5: check your privilege and allow us to take.

1230
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: Shit in there.

1231
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean, my only, my only, Like

1232
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: my theory is that, like they don't want someone going

1233
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: in there and pulling a mask over their head or

1234
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: getting their gun ready.

1235
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 4: Oh is that?

1236
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: But that seems so stupid. It's like I'll just do

1237
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 2: it in the car and storm into the bank.

1238
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 4: How often do bank robberies still happen? Probably a lot,

1239
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: pretty frequently.

1240
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: And I I've I had a friend who was robbed

1241
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: once and he learned the statistic that it's like ninety

1242
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 2: eight percent of bank robbers are caught. Wow, So it's

1243
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: not a great gig. Yeah, So that's why I didn't

1244
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: pick it earlier as a criminal enterprise. Oh, the other

1245
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 2: thing I want to recommend is a song by this

1246
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: artist named Carol Anne Peg. I think that's her name.

1247
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: She's a and if the song is called a Witch's

1248
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: Guide to the Underground, Oh, I just want to make

1249
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: sure it's great. I mean that's her name because I

1250
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: recently came across it. If you like Kate Bush, this

1251
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: is like an earlier version. This is, you know, folky,

1252
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: somebody kind of singing about kind of slightly witchy, but folky.

1253
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: Everybody loves this song. Well, I'm gonna assume everybody loves

1254
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: is going to love this song.

1255
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 4: That's fantastic. I'm gonna I'm liking it right now.

1256
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: But let's get into the game. I feel like I

1257
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: completely forgot we were playing a game because I was

1258
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: so mad about the bank. I understand this is how

1259
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: we play Gift or a Curse. I'm gonna name three things.

1260
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: You're going to tell me if there're a gift or

1261
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: a curse and why, and then I'll tell you if

1262
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: you're right or wrong. There are correct answers. Does that

1263
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 2: make perfect sense? Okay? Number one this is from somebody

1264
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: a listener named Rebecca. Rebecca suggested gift or a Curse

1265
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: correctly predicting who the killer is in the first half

1266
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: of a show or movie like the viewer.

1267
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 5: As a viewer, Yeah, as a viewer, I think that's

1268
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 5: a curse because you can't let yourself enjoy something.

1269
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, that's what I say. Okay, well, I think

1270
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you it's a gift. You're really

1271
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: absolutely what a fun feeling you're I mean, you feel

1272
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: like you're the smartest person in the room. Sure, and

1273
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: then you get to watch this murderer or the killer

1274
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 2: kind of do their thing the whole episode. You're tracking

1275
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: them almost as if you're a good uh you know,

1276
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: spy or FBI agent.

1277
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 5: I think if I if I guess the murderer, then

1278
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 5: I think they're so dumb like.

1279
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 4: You, guys. I beat you. I beat you this.

1280
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 5: I fucked up my whole car trying to buy a

1281
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 5: skeleton today, and I figured out who killed this person.

1282
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 5: I forgot out who's sending the codes. Embarrassing.

1283
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I hate to hear you argue with me. You're wrong.

1284
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 2: It's a gift.

1285
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 4: Okay.

1286
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: I love to solve a puzzle quickly. Okay, number two,

1287
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: So you're failing so far, and that's fine. Understand someone

1288
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: named Mark has suggested gift or a curse.

1289
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 4: Fancy ketchup, Oh goodness, fancy ca I think fancy ketchup's

1290
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 4: a gift.

1291
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: Why because it delineates it between regular ketchup.

1292
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 5: Fancy ketchup always is a little zestier, let's be honest,

1293
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 5: And it's thicker, and it comes in glass. Other ketchup

1294
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 5: can come in plastic, And I think it's nice because

1295
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 5: ketchup deserves.

1296
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 4: To be on the spectrum of dining. You can have

1297
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 4: nice freetz.

1298
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: Why would we call something freeze instead of fries if

1299
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 5: we don't want them to be fancier, So we need

1300
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 5: to give them a better If you're gonna give someone

1301
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 5: a makeover, you can't have them wear the clothes they

1302
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 5: already wore, right, You got to give them a fancy dress.

1303
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 5: So you got to make a zesterier ketchup. It's a

1304
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 5: little thicker, it's a little nicer to scoop. So yes,

1305
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 5: I think it's a gift.

1306
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: Everyone knows it's a curse. Nobody likes fans wrong, nobody.

1307
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: You're always so unhappy when you go to a restaurant

1308
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: and they don't have regular ketchup. It never tastes right.

1309
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: Just give us all the sugar and vinegar. That's all

1310
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: anybody wants. Ask on at least you like regular ketchup

1311
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: more than fancy ketchup. Yeah, they think, so, you can answer.

1312
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know the difference. And I also think

1313
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: that ketchup is very good. I think it's one of

1314
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: the lowest forms of a condiment. Okay, well, this is

1315
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: where the problem comes in. Then, so Honey's just doesn't

1316
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: like ketchup at all, so it doesn't matter. Wow, Okay,

1317
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: but you're wrong.

1318
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 4: Okay.

1319
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 2: I hate to hear it. You hate to hear it.

1320
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: Number three, This is from someone named Amy. A gift

1321
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: or a curse. Hotel bathrooms with full bottles of shampoo, conditioner,

1322
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: and soap attached to the shower wall instead of many

1323
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: bottles on the counter.

1324
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 4: Absolute curse.

1325
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 5: Why I think that's a curse because you can you

1326
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 5: know that all the other people have touched it. You

1327
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: know that they're just pumping it in, like freaking just

1328
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 5: people pumping just I hate that. I hate the feeling

1329
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 5: that they're just It's like I'm a man, like the

1330
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 5: like the machine that Gerbils use to drink water.

1331
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. That's what those feel like

1332
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 4: to me, and I hate that.

1333
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 5: With a little ball on them, let's drive me crazy.

1334
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 4: I hate those.

1335
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 5: I absolutely genuinely hate those. Give me a thing to

1336
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 5: take home, Give me a little plastic thing. I understand

1337
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 5: that it's less environmentally friendly, but I can't store that in,

1338
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 5: you know, in case I run out of soap, in

1339
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 5: case I'm going on another trip.

1340
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: I'm not buying that stuff.

1341
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: Right, what do you think, Well, listener, you may have

1342
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: just heard the garbage truck driving through the neighborhood. And

1343
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: that's an interesting coincidence because it's kind of ringing the

1344
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: bell that Patrick is one of very few to have

1345
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: lost this game. They're a gift, Yes, because of me.

1346
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: They're using the nice stuff.

1347
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1348
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: If they give you the little thing on the counter,

1349
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: that means it's some bizarre brand no one has ever

1350
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: heard of. It's gonna absolutely destroy your hair. Skin doesn't

1351
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: smell as good you're in the shower. It's slipping out

1352
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: of your hands while you're trying to squeeze it. Not

1353
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: environmentally friendly. No, you gotta have the one attached to

1354
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 2: the wall.

1355
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 4: I'll diw on this hill.

1356
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: The labo.

1357
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 4: Have you heard al lavo? Lo lavo comes into little things.

1358
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: I've never seen l lavo in an economy size fucking trough.

1359
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 5: Or you pump it out of the wall, you press

1360
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 5: the button, you hear a squeeze noise. Give me a break,

1361
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 5: I'm in a shower. You got to use them. No way,

1362
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 5: I don't care. That's not's leisurely. Leisurely is is it?

1363
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 5: And fancy and exquisite? That's the bottle.

1364
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you're going to the wrong hotels, my friend.

1365
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 4: I'm going to Margaritaville's and I'm enjoying every single one

1366
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 4: of them.

1367
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Margaritaville, They're just they're probably just in the uh

1368
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: testing stages of putting the nice ones on the wall.

1369
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah right, It's just you're afraid of the future. Ultimately,

1370
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: you're scared of change.

1371
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: No way.

1372
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: Oh well, you lost, and at least you have any

1373
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: idea how many people have lost. It's got to be like,

1374
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: oh on this, this is gonna check just so you

1375
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: feel worse.

1376
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 4: Wow, so I really lost?

1377
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: You lost? Way more people have won this game?

1378
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 4: Actually, no way lost?

1379
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't know that.

1380
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's only been you are the fifth loser.

1381
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

1382
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: In hundreds of episodes, am I in good company? Carl

1383
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: Tart okay, sense, Jesse Tyler, Ferguson okay, Irene too, and

1384
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: Gillian Jacobs.

1385
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: That's crazy. We're on a text thread. I'm going to

1386
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 4: text them all interesting.

1387
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: You and Carl have a lot to talk about.

1388
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 4: We have a lot to talk about.

1389
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: He's going to be very mad at you.

1390
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to be chatting with Carl.

1391
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: He wanted he was in rare company until now, and

1392
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: now you've kind of soiled the pristine pool of losers.

1393
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 4: Wow, pristine full of losers. I'm the loser.

1394
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: You're the worst. Broughtser is always the latest loser.

1395
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 4: Losing always meant something.

1396
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 2: Your louser is kind of like, oh you're really bad.

1397
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, you haven't. You haven't adapted with other people.

1398
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 3: Right.

1399
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 4: Wow?

1400
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, badly played. Let's try to move on. This

1401
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I

1402
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: Said No Emails. People write into I Said No Gifts

1403
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com with questions any type of question.

1404
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: People frequently writing about gifts. But I can't be clear

1405
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: enough to the listener. I don't care write in about

1406
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: whatever you want, we answer a question.

1407
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 4: I would love that now.

1408
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: Okay, let me read this, says dear wise, bridger and

1409
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: helpful guest. Very nice. I was recently put in a

1410
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: situation where my brother gave me an unexpected gift and

1411
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: I was caught with nothing to give him in return.

1412
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: We live far apart and will often exchange gifts from

1413
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: our respective cities when we see each other. We happened

1414
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: to be vacationing in the same place and so met

1415
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: up for an afternoon and dinner when our paths crossed,

1416
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: which was very nice. Since we were both traveling, I

1417
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: assumed we wouldn't be exchanging our regular gifts due to

1418
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: packing constraints. I also assumed we were visiting the same country,

1419
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: so why by the other a souvenir when we are

1420
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,479
Speaker 2: all going to the same place and each should would

1421
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: pick their own. The second assumption was my mistake, and

1422
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: he brought my husband and me very nice souvenir gifts.

1423
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: My plan was then to pay for dinner, but he

1424
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: did that sneaky move and approach the waiter away from

1425
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: the table and paid. I am very appreciative of his

1426
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: thoughtfulness and generosity, but we are competitive, and there was

1427
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: a smugness and he knew he bested me this time around.

1428
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: I would appreciate any gift is to help me, even

1429
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: the score. He has a cat, enjoys gambling, snowboarding, whiskey,

1430
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: and his favorite food is mashed potatoes. I love the podcast.

1431
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: Thanks Anna. Wow. Okay, now about half well, when we

1432
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: got to the brother suddenly flashing the cash, yeah, I

1433
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: started to think of something, and then we got to gambling,

1434
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: and then I actually think my theory is confirmed. He's

1435
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: in financial trouble. You think so, he's peacocking. He's trying

1436
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: to He's like trying to prove it. He doesn't want

1437
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: her look peeking behind the curtain.

1438
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 4: What I was gonna say it's a little similar is

1439
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 4: this brother needs.

1440
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: To let people in.

1441
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 5: Interesting because it's this feeling of the superiority all the time.

1442
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 4: I'm in charge, I can help. I'm the provider, right.

1443
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 5: I won't receive as anything because receiving something is vulnerable.

1444
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: Oh so fascinating.

1445
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 4: That lines up with the gambling addiction of the game problem.

1446
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: He's so out of money, and let's be clear, he

1447
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: stepped away from the table to pay. We didn't see

1448
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: money exchange. There could have been a threat, that's that

1449
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: could have been it. Yeah, there's some waiter out there

1450
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: scared for their life.

1451
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 5: I also really don't like the I paid quietly without

1452
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 5: telling you move.

1453
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: Don't tell me.

1454
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 5: And well, I just don't like the idea that you're

1455
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 5: standing talking to a waiter, you know what I mean.

1456
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 5: I think that looks unnatural and I think I think

1457
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 5: waiter should be received. But when you see somebody standing,

1458
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 5: there must be.

1459
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 4: Something terribly wrong.

1460
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: They're dominating them.

1461
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 4: It feels like a wheeling and dealing kind of thing. Right,

1462
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 4: it's not their realm.

1463
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 5: They're standing, they're in charge, right, they're running the place,

1464
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 5: your manager style talking to them.

1465
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:31,959
Speaker 4: I hate that vibe.

1466
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: You should never be on an even playing field with

1467
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 2: the waiter.

1468
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 4: You're talking up to a waiter.

1469
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, So it holds hard to interesting observation

1470
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: you've made.

1471
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 4: I don't I do think.

1472
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 5: First of all, I would say the best way to

1473
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 5: get a return on this gift is potentially getting something online.

1474
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 5: That was my first thought, by something that you could

1475
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 5: send to them that would be a digital gift card,

1476
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 5: you know, like maybe maybe there's something that you can

1477
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 5: get that day that can just show up in their

1478
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 5: inbox and they can.

1479
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: There's nothing they can know to it.

1480
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have something.

1481
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 5: Right, And I know gift cards feel a little impersonal,

1482
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 5: but you can get very specific with the gift card,

1483
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 5: and you can get very very very detailed. There's so

1484
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 5: many niche things for everything. So if there's some sort

1485
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 5: of mashed potato with a month club something like that,

1486
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 5: tickets to a resort, or if I bought you two

1487
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 5: tickets if there's a local mountain, if if they live

1488
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,959
Speaker 5: by Jackson Hole to you know, you bought two ski

1489
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 5: tickets of Jackson Hole, right, you can be ready for

1490
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 5: in the winter. It would be my thought personalized.

1491
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: Those are very nice gifts. Yeah, and I was also

1492
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: while you were talking, I wasn't listening. I was thinking

1493
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: of my own ideas. Okay, no, that's not true. I

1494
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: was listen, but I was thinking. I saw a cat

1495
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: and then I saw gambling, and I thought, this has

1496
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 2: got to be a thing, a cat roulette table.

1497
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be fun.

1498
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: To watch a cat do the roulette?

1499
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:50,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be fun.

1500
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 2: That feels like a thing that could I like, if

1501
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: that hasn't been made already.

1502
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 5: Roulette's the ball that spins around, right, Yeah, so I

1503
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 5: don't think that cat's gonna let that bo get.

1504
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: All the way around, but chases it for a minute.

1505
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: And what number does it stop the ball on?

1506
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: Oh? Interesting? And is it betting? Is it red or black?

1507
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: Red or black and its little visor on?

1508
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 4: Or you could have an orange cat versus a black cat?

1509
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: Oh? Interesting? Kind of then kill each other and one.

1510
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 4: I think it's a legal cat fighting on a roulette

1511
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: table at this point.

1512
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 5: But I do think, I do think, And also maybe

1513
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: making some sort of gambling type of gift could be.

1514
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 4: Very fun where it's like open this or open this.

1515
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: Oh, so he has to do the gamble and then

1516
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: that he may end up with a bad gift.

1517
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 5: Or like I bet you one hundred dollars that you

1518
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 5: wouldn't do something, but the gift is one hundred dollars.

1519
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 4: Oh, so true something.

1520
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 5: And then I just get they think they're one against you,

1521
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 5: but actually you prepared them.

1522
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: Again, Well, I think we answered that perfectly.

1523
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: I think we did.

1524
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 5: And I would also say, let's take the attention see

1525
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 5: each other less siblings. I would say, see each other

1526
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 5: less because it feels like there's a tension.

1527
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: Communicate less.

1528
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're not enjoying your company.

1529
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 5: If I'm gonna be quite honest with each other, it's

1530
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 5: I don't think that you're really embracing the fact that

1531
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 5: you are family, that you're enjoying your time together.

1532
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 4: I don't think he is.

1533
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 2: It seems I don't think either. They're both on vacation

1534
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: and all they're thinking about is how do I get

1535
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: the upper hand?

1536
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. Look at the sunset. Oh, I have a moheito,

1537
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 4: what are you doing?

1538
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: Kiss? You got to do something to break the tension.

1539
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: Oh geez.

1540
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 4: This advice is good at one point.

1541
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: And obviously change your phone number. Don't let this brother

1542
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: get back in touch with you. This is a deadly

1543
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: game you're both playing. Yes, we answered the question so well.

1544
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. This is why people write in yeah,

1545
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: we're saving lives.

1546
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 4: I can't believe you don't even charge for this.

1547
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: I'll say it, and I've said it once, and i'll

1548
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: say it before. No, if that's not what you say,

1549
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: I've said it once and i'll say it again. The

1550
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 2: heat is you know, I am sweating. I'm a force

1551
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 2: for change. You are I'm a force for change.

1552
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 4: I love that.

1553
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I think This is the end of the podcast.

1554
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 4: Patrick.

1555
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: I've got all these delightful little shrinkets.

1556
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it's called, shrinky dinks, shrinking shrinky dink,

1557
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 5: shrinking d shrink its.

1558
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 4: That might be the the generic brand shrink it's.

1559
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: The Red Box movie version exactly so.

1560
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 5: And I did leave some of these in my hot car,

1561
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 5: so we'll see if I'm coming back to some more

1562
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 5: surprise shrinky dinks.

1563
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 4: But thank you for having me, Bridget.

1564
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: This was so much. I just adore you and like

1565
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: you as well. Hopefully the listener's not too pissed at you.

1566
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 4: I please don't be Guys, come on, he's.

1567
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: Got enough problems. He's got a twelve problem in this car, right.

1568
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 7: Don't remind me what am I gonna do? I live

1569
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 7: down forty stairs. How do I have not offered to

1570
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 7: help yet you won't and you absolutely won't. I actually

1571
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 7: will let me know if you need help, send a picture.

1572
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 7: We'll put it on the Instagram at some point. Okay, great,

1573
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 7: This is the end of the podcast, listener, Patrick, thank

1574
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 7: you for being here. Thank you, listener. You know I'm

1575
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 7: obviously all out of sorts. I'm saying things that make

1576
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 7: zero sense at this point, you've got to have some

1577
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 7: mercy and let me go. I'm just take your claws

1578
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 7: off of me. This is the end of the podcast.

1579
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 7: I love you goodbye.

1580
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

1581
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: produced by our dear friend Annalise Nilson, and it's beautifully

1582
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without

1583
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: our guest booker Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course,

1584
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 2: could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must

1585
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts,

1586
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you

1587
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.

1588
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 2: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

1589
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: Line?

1590
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: May did you hear?

1591
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: Thuna man? Myself perfectly clear? But you're I guessed Tom.

1592
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty And I said, no, guest,

1593
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: your own presence is presents enough.

1594
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 3: I already had too much stuff, So how do you

1595
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 3: dare to surbey me?