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Speaker 1: How you doing today, Joe, let me tell yourself to Debo.

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Speaker 1: Devo's my time, real player. Welcome back to Debo and Joe.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host James Deebo Harrison, and I'm here with

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Speaker 2: my co host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys

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Speaker 2: like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How

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Speaker 2: you're doing today?

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Speaker 3: Joe doing good, Brother Deebo doing good. Caught a little game,

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Speaker 3: you know, Monday night football. You know, it's never as

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Speaker 3: good though, when our Stellers are players or my Browns

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Speaker 3: are playing, you know what I'm saying. So it was

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Speaker 3: a good game. Always good to watch football, But you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, it's never just.

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Speaker 1: That as excited. It's not. It's a totally different feel.

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Speaker 2: But I ended up going to the story Bro, like

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Speaker 2: right before the game, and I had I had to

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Speaker 2: pick up something, and I'm going through the hour and

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Speaker 2: I see these hats, Bro, And when I see these hats,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what.

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Speaker 1: That when you said the Browns, your Browns, it made me.

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Speaker 1: It made me realize that I had this hat for you.

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Speaker 2: So I need you to it's your Christmas present, Okay,

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Speaker 2: early Christmas present. When's your birthday? My birthday is apri

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Speaker 2: birthdays April fourteenth. Okay, now look here, this is the

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Speaker 2: early Christmas present. I need you to close your eyes though, okay,

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Speaker 2: and I'm bring it out and I'm gonna show you it. Okay, yeah, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: hold up up, No, don't be met Joe, open your eyes.

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Speaker 1: Just the hat for you. You can wear it twice

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Speaker 1: a year. I just hope both teens have come.

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Speaker 3: You can wear it Twicevo Devo, I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 3: to you, brother. That was very very nice of you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, soon as I saw it, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I know who this is. And I

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Speaker 2: was thinking I was looking for, like Joe, like your

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Speaker 2: brand on the backup.

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Speaker 1: Like something like that. But it wasn't. But you know, Devo,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Debo, thank you. I didn't know. I honestly

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Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect. I didn't know where that

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Speaker 1: was going to go. Hey, thank you you are very

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Man. Joe just hopes both teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he's in the matches. What you got on, bro?

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Speaker 1: Like you got to wear it? Yes? It was me,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes I put thank you. That was meant to

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Speaker 1: be man, that was meant to be Devo, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Honestly, that was a very nice question, bro,

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Speaker 1: that was nice. Thank you. I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to explad for show. Let's get into this, man.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals went on head and jumped on a jumped on

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys twenty seventy ten. Man that first yess and

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Speaker 2: the sun Dallas came out of there firing on all cylinders.

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Speaker 2: They had to run in nine on the first one

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Speaker 2: or the next one eight.

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Speaker 1: Then they hit pickings for sixteen, CD for fifteen. Williams,

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Speaker 1: the running back, he went on head popped eleven, but

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Speaker 1: a Z was able to get it together.

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Speaker 2: They got him to that that fourth and four they

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Speaker 2: get a sack on that. That's no points. You drove

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Speaker 2: the ball all that time, did your thing?

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Speaker 1: No points? That's your Yeah, you gotta get turn over

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Speaker 1: on downs man, and then they come right out there Arizona.

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Speaker 1: So Kobe Brissett that in name listen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they went on three third downs man, third and

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Speaker 2: long like they weren't making those short ones.

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Speaker 1: He hit Harrison on the third down for eighteen.

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Speaker 2: The next third down it was third and ten, he

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Speaker 2: hit Harrison again for fifteen. And then on the other

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Speaker 2: third down that was a longer one. They got a

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Speaker 2: holding call on that that ended up giving them a

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Speaker 2: first down. But they find a way to stall it out.

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Speaker 2: Dallas find a way to get a little bit, get

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Speaker 2: a little bit of stops here and there, and they

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Speaker 2: go for four.

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Speaker 1: The field goal they scores is three. Nothing. I thought

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Speaker 1: that could have went a lot worse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now, because they was putting them dudes in a

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Speaker 1: So you know, so far if you were man like,

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Speaker 1: well he was.

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Speaker 3: He was scared to just get beat deep out and

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Speaker 3: that that's just not a good You gotta you gotta

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Speaker 3: be able to play a little bit, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like he didn't want to get beat up top.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't trying to get beat on the fade ball.

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Speaker 3: So that's why he was playing so soft. But you

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Speaker 3: gotta you gotta just slow down and read three like

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Speaker 3: thousand percent. He was like everything's gonna get caught in

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Speaker 3: keep taking that eleven at fifteen, Like you gotta stand up.

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Speaker 3: You got to some point like press him up, put

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Speaker 3: Dallas come out there.

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Speaker 2: They moved a little bit, but they get to that

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Speaker 2: third down and he hit CD for fourteen. They get it,

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Speaker 2: but they get a penalty that takes it away, ends

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Speaker 1: They they punt the ball back to Arizona. Arizona comes out.

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Speaker 2: I believe when he got he got he got sacked

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Speaker 2: on that second down. He got sacked on the second down.

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Speaker 2: They put him to like a third and fourteen fifteen,

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Speaker 2: and who he hit.

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Speaker 1: He hit Harrison. You know is that Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: He was cooking out.

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Speaker 3: They was getting the ball to him. He was throwing

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Speaker 3: it on time. He was throwing the Kobe Harrison, throwing.

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Speaker 2: It right on time to him, like right where he

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Speaker 2: needed to go, getting through it, going through his regressions.

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Speaker 1: He was doing it.

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Speaker 2: The next night, the running back, I think he punched

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Speaker 2: them off about fifteen sixteen, and then that was the

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Speaker 2: four yard touchdown. To Harrison Junior from Brisset to go

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Speaker 2: ahead and capitalize on that.

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Speaker 3: You saw that route that walk off and he had

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Speaker 3: stepping in the air, moonwalke bro his foot. Yet that

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Speaker 3: thing got to slip out of me. That's a tough

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Speaker 3: position to being. But you gotta like you got to

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Speaker 3: put some hands on them something. That was a crazy

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Speaker 3: release though. He had my dude looking looking wild see on.

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Speaker 1: The sideline like and you know, and.

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Speaker 3: And that's and that's a real reaction like this guy,

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Speaker 3: he sat my man down, you know how that is.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Yeah, I'm telling you I don't been sat down

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Speaker 2: plenty of times trying to jam that number two.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, man, Yeah, there, y'all. Y'all know,

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Speaker 1: y'all ain't supposed to have me out here on this slide.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking back. Hey, it gets tricky out there. It

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Speaker 1: gets tricky out to see me over here. You see

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Speaker 1: me over here? You better lean this way, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure, I'm telling you that dB spot.

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Speaker 3: That's the one thing you on an island, everything is maximized.

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Speaker 3: They gonna see your plays, they gonna see when you

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Speaker 3: get beat like because you out there on the.

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Speaker 2: Island, no question, dude, Dallas going ahead and get back

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Speaker 2: out there. They moved the ball down they get I

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Speaker 2: believe it was like to the Arizona I think it

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Speaker 2: was forty two.

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Speaker 1: They had a third and like fifteen sixteen something like that.

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Speaker 1: And uh that dude Wills, he causes a fumble on

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Speaker 1: that day. Who the baker recovers that thing? Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: That mean it was early turnovers for Dallas too. Bro, Like,

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Speaker 3: you can't be that's not You're not going that's not

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Speaker 3: when the football, especially when your your defense isn't that good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, trash, Let's let's be honest. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Arizona get them all back, but they end up get

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Speaker 2: sacked on that second down. Put them behind the chains.

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Speaker 1: They go to punt, Bro, how slow was that punter moving?

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Speaker 1: Due he was? He was moving at that place all game.

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Speaker 2: They need to either tell him to cut down his

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Speaker 1: Somebody.

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Speaker 3: Because he kicked the ball his foot almost hit but

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Speaker 3: he in his face mask. He didn't even have to

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Speaker 3: extend his hands. That almost almost concuss my man. He

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Speaker 3: kicked the ball right right into his face. They recover

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Speaker 3: the ball touchdown, it's seventeen. But Arizona gets the rock

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Speaker 3: back and they come out there and they dance it

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Speaker 3: a little bit, and it's a little bit, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They answered a lot, lots.

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Speaker 2: A lot, so that place to seven on that one

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Speaker 2: and ran it in for the touchdown at the end

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Speaker 2: with the sneak seventeen seventeen seven. They done scratched off

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Speaker 2: that that little touchdown they got.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's still course, but when your offense can

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Speaker 1: go back.

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Speaker 2: Out there and put up an answer like that to

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Speaker 2: give you a lot of confidence as a defense to

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Speaker 2: be but be able to come back out there, especially

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Speaker 2: when you like you couldn't even do nothing out there

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Speaker 2: to try and stop it. You're not even on the field, dude.

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Speaker 2: Those are the worst touchdowns man.

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Speaker 1: Trust.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, like that, Dallas didn't score any

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Speaker 3: offensive touchdowns in the first half, So I know Arizona's

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Speaker 3: defense feeling good, like they feel bad because they did.

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Speaker 3: They didn't even the points that were on the board

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Speaker 3: wasn't wasn't their fault, you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 3: nothing they did about that, So in their minds they're

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Speaker 3: still getting get they still got a donut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, Dallas gone ahead. They

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Speaker 2: get down there, dude tries for a sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: Yard field goal, but he misses.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you, brother, I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 2: he's about to make this like the.

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Speaker 1: Record, right, and to make this about the crust.

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Speaker 3: That was the one dude that I thought they was

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Speaker 3: talking about we gonna see a seventy yarder.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking the Dallas kicker. That was the first person.

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Speaker 3: He was like, you think we're gonna see a seventy

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Speaker 3: I think the Dallas dude could do it, but he

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Speaker 3: missed sixty eight. Hopefully get another chance, but I thought

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Speaker 3: he was gonna be able to smack smash.

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Speaker 1: He just was off. He was just off. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: looked like he had the distance, he was just off.

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Speaker 1: So halftime, it's seven seventeen, Arizona gets the ball. In

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Speaker 1: the third quarter, dude, three plays, bro, seventy four yards

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Speaker 1: for a tuddy what what defense defense? Dallas's defense? Fifth like,

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Speaker 1: and then twelve for the touchdown to McBride. That type

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Speaker 1: of nice I ain't live bro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, that man, he ran the smoothest corner route.

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Speaker 3: That was just you know, I can see the corner

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Speaker 3: kind of lost the leverage a little bit. He told

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Speaker 3: me he pushed off. I'm like, man, he swum you

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Speaker 3: by so nice, like that was not a place off.

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Speaker 3: That's a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That yeah, I was when I saw it. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: maybe he did push them off because he was so open.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it ain't.

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Speaker 1: Man, No, I look that they put you off that man,

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Speaker 1: That man swam you by. Yeah, seven to twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Now man Dollas gets the wall back.

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Speaker 2: They get to I believe it was like the Arizona

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Speaker 2: like three four or five something like that.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: They get sacked on that second down, and then they

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Speaker 2: end up going ahead and having to take the field goal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona, they gone ahead, get it back. They put

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Speaker 1: They get a field goal, they're still up by seventeen.

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Speaker 2: For and forty Yeah, bro, like right there to go

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Speaker 1: Six all the game, y'all. Don't make it turnover on downs.

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Speaker 2: Just over what under over two minutes? I can't remember,

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Speaker 2: Like I think touchdown I was. You know, it's twenty

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Speaker 2: I don't like that, like keep everything in front of

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Speaker 1: That'd be killing people like that. Get a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: Oh no, for sure, for sure that those are those

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Speaker 1: That don't matter. It's still padding the stats pat here,

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, as a defense, I'm like, Yo, man,

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Speaker 3: When I'm saying when i'm saying Patton stats, I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, yup? And then you know, Arizona

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Speaker 2: They get sacked on the second down after they scored,

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Speaker 1: This is what you're talking about the maturity.

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Speaker 2: Yo, we go go ahead and see what we can do,

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Speaker 2: And this is situation where he goes, he turns the dB,

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Speaker 1: That ends up, Yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Get then, but I know what you say, Arizona forces

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what you know, what he's thinking there,

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Speaker 1: like they especially with you, they looking for it, bro.

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Speaker 3: No, for sure, and they made they emphasize that. They

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Speaker 3: You know they looking at you because you you you

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Speaker 3: you to do some wild stuff. So I'm glad that

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Speaker 3: Just you know what I'm saying, don't don't don't do that, George,

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Speaker 1: Don't. Yeah, don't don't put yourself in positions to deal

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Speaker 1: Trying to come what's that williamste fund with again or

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Speaker 1: Okay, So they fumbled the rock. Whoever was he fumbled

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Speaker 2: Understand you going for it, and Marvin Hillson was wide open,

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Speaker 1: But for me, I'd have been like, yo, let me

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Speaker 1: go ahead, try and pin this thing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: give my defense a long field. So they got they

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Speaker 3: No, I feel you playing the field position game because

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Speaker 3: They haven't been able to show them that they could

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Speaker 3: drive it. But they gonna be able to get to

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Speaker 3: make something happen. So I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So they end up turning the ball over on downs

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Speaker 2: and Dallas gets the ball back. It really ain't that

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Speaker 1: And he gets the interception game over with. They go.

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Speaker 2: Nil on it at the end, and that's it. Dude, Dallas,

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Speaker 2: Dallas got some missues. Man, Dallas defense is just just.

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Speaker 1: Bad, man. It's it's trash bro like. First like, you

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Speaker 1: just totally lost like the first half, Like on them

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Speaker 1: third downs. First half, they was connecting on them boys.

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Speaker 1: What was it seven and nine on third down?

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Speaker 2: And you're not talking about like short third downs, dude,

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Speaker 2: you talking about long yeh, thirdeen, third and fourteen, you know.

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Speaker 2: And Set went out there and he did his thing.

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Speaker 2: He'd been doing this thing, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: the last few weeks he'd been in there.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: He twenty one to thirty one. He got one with

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Speaker 2: two sixty one two tugs and ran one in too.

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Speaker 2: And Marvin Harrison. They finally got this man in the ball,

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior. They finally got this man the ball.

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Speaker 2: He almost got a hund it. He should have got

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Speaker 2: was seven for ninety six. He could have been more

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Speaker 1: Like this is, you know, this is his biggest performance

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Speaker 1: you know the guy that we saw at those State

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Speaker 1: you know, and Arizona's defense, they was just out there

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Speaker 1: forcing fumbles everywhere. Yeah, saying I think they forced four.

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Speaker 1: They only recovered two of us.

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Speaker 3: Because they stripped. They rough pickings too, but the running

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Speaker 1: It and recover. But he definitely they they forced a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yeah, and you know, they getting those

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Speaker 1: It's changed momental, you know, and Dallas hell.

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Speaker 2: You add that to the fact that they was they

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Speaker 2: I see why, I see why. Jerry was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: After that game, you know what Jerry said, Jerry said, hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: no more money. Hey, I'm a business man, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones don't care about winning no Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Jones care about getting that money. Okay, making that money.

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Speaker 2: And like he said himself, staying relevant. If he stayed relevant,

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Speaker 2: he making it out and keep the fans like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, he keep y'all spending that money. Jared business

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Speaker 2: man first the focals, that's it. So that's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: de Bo. I'm with you one thousand percent. The first

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Speaker 3: I don't think that he doesn't care if the Dallas

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's not like he's like, I don't

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Speaker 3: doesn't want them to lose. I don't think he wants

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Speaker 3: and he wants what do.

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Speaker 2: You think to what they started winning? Win the super Bowls?

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Speaker 2: But yes, it did the opposite to his money. It

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Speaker 2: actually declined it that but that that makes out what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't think did you think he would take the

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a that's that's a crazy question. What

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Speaker 3: do you think he would take the money over the success?

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Speaker 1: Joe?

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Speaker 3: Joe, I asked you what you think I think he

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Speaker 3: might take the money over the Yeah, I'm with you,

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Speaker 3: I think the money over the success. Money is the

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Speaker 3: main priority. Money's number one. Yes, money over everything. But dude,

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Speaker 3: he said that. He said that already, He's been saying

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Speaker 3: that's the reason the averaging twenty nine points a game.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Their offense is the fourth, fourth in points, first and

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Speaker 1: So it's not like they're terrible. Defense is terrible. That's

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, because when they score under thirty four, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, he did go get he

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Speaker 3: they do have Dak Prescott. He's given them something to

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Speaker 3: watch with the average of twenty nine. He's going on

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Speaker 3: That's that's that's that's the panegree, that's the that's the

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Speaker 3: that's the money part is more important. So I'm with

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Speaker 3: you on that. But yeah, he did. That's the headlines.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna stay in the headlines.

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Speaker 1: They lost.

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Speaker 3: He's like, all right, bet I still got these dudes.

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Speaker 3: Defense playing terrible, So I'm gonna give y'all some headlines.

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Speaker 3: I thought we had somebody, Now we don't. Now you're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about it now, me and you were

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Speaker 1: issue over there, but it's a good issue. It was

434
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback issue, yeahset hey even doing his thing. Man

435
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: offense looking better, they playing better. Harrison just had the

436
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: best game of his NFL career. He found he founding,

437
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: he got it to him. You know, I don't know

438
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: if Tyler. I don't know if Kyler got any more

439
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: guaranteed money left on that contract or not. I don't know,

440
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: but you know, it's looking like he might get Wally Pip.

441
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: You know, Wally Pip brother. Yeah, Buss. We always say,

442
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 2: don't get Wally Pip. You know what I'm saying. I'm

443
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: just hey, I'm just saying. You know, Brissett, he's standing

444
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: in that pocket. When that pocket's closing on him, He's

445
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: standing there and he's delivering. Kyler's only what five ten,

446
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: five eleven at that basset. When that pocket starts to close,

447
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: he can't just stand in there. That's why they got

448
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 2: to move him around do all. They can't see over

449
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: them dudes, man. And now with him.

450
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: Being so injury from the ain't no guarantee money left, man, I.

451
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: Don't you move on? Don't I don't Why would you

452
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: give him another?

453
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: What are you getting?

454
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 2: Like almost forty five forty season, he probably made numbers

455
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: for every game he's played. Has been better than all

456
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: of his numbers for the games he's played this year.

457
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: Like it's not one game where he passed more had

458
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 2: whatever it was. Then what we're saying over the last

459
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: three four games, whatever it is, they had opportunity. I

460
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: think green Bay be sets.

461
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 3: Definitely throwing the ball on time. He's looking efficient. You

462
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm with you one hundred percent.

463
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: I think maybe with Kyler Murray too, he's been him

464
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 3: his time. I don't think I think Calum Mary could

465
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: be a good quarterback for sure, and it made his time.

466
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: Maybe not done in Arizona, you know what I'm saying,

467
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: Like just being a different a different atmosphere, a different spot.

468
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 3: I just like the way, just being able to the

469
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: way that their office is flowing him, not being able

470
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 3: to see over the top of the line. Jacobe, He's

471
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: just throwing the ball a time. When you see one

472
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: on ones sometimes it's not that hard. I think Jacoby's

473
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: doing the simple thing. You're seeing they playing man the

474
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: man on your basket when you got the.

475
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: Simple thing, you know, and you're doing it, but you

476
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: don't have the height to see over it.

477
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: You can't get to it.

478
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: So all the times where you know the receiver is open,

479
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: he don't get it to him. He may not be

480
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 2: able to see him. I mean her to her say

481
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: something about he couldn't see him, how tall is to her?

482
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, that made sure, you know, to Marvin

483
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: this time, you know what I'm saying.

484
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you could have something to do with Marvin

485
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: Harrison Senior, uh stating something like, you know, if he

486
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: was in that offense, you know in his prime that

487
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: they basically sent him a prepaid.

488
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: To send his gold jacket back to the Hall of

489
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: Fame from camp. Basically they ain't doing what's necessary to

490
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: get the man the ball. He got what he.

491
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: Most that he's had all all his you know, since

492
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: he came out. I mean, I don't know, you don't

493
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: do that. I mean day one, that's what people.

494
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean.

495
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: And I think some of the stuff too, is it

496
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: could be at the end of the day, like Kyler Murray,

497
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 3: not not forcing him the ball, not not force feeding him.

498
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: But Jacoby at the same time, knowing I'm in here,

499
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: I have this baller, I'm gonna make sure if he's

500
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: better than the dude covering him, why would not not

501
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: target him more than not? You know what I'm saying

502
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 3: Before that, that's the quarterback's decision. Maybe like he dropping

503
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: back and everybody's running they pass routes. Maybe you got

504
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 3: a primary. But if it's man the man, I'm going

505
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: to throw it to. Who I want to throw it to.

506
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw it to Marvin Harrison Jr. That's running

507
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: this dig route on this corner, I think he's gonna

508
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: be you know what I'm saying, Like I could think

509
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: like that, So I think Jacoby is taking the easy money.

510
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 3: Like maybe don't overthink it, Kyler Murray. Maybe just like

511
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 3: all right, bet, I'm gonna drop back in wherever it

512
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: on this man, I'm gonna I'm gonna have a he

513
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: has a different thought process going Jacoby or like like Flacco,

514
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: when you back there, sometimes it's not that hard. If

515
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: they're in man on your better players, I'm gonna throw

516
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: it to them, you know what I'm saying, Instead of

517
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 3: like him only having his highest of nine targets. Kylin

518
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 3: Array has been a quarterback with Marvin Harrison Jr. There's

519
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 3: no reason why you shouldn't have thirteen t You're saying

520
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: that it's either the quarterback or the O C. Yes,

521
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: because if it's if it's if you have if you

522
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: have the option when you're the quarterback and it's a

523
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 3: man and man call and you I mean it's it's

524
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: called and you see the defenses a man and man

525
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: single high right now, you go to your matchups, you

526
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: go to what you like. It's not like it's not

527
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: gonna be all. He's gonna be open. I like him.

528
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: You we know he's running a dig and they're man

529
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: and man. It's gonna be him verset him if he

530
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: beasts them on this route. If I'm looking off by

531
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: the time I look back and throw it all the time,

532
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 3: he's going to be there and beating that dude on the.

533
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: Dig route and he could just take this to the house.

534
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: So for me, it's more like, be simple, don't make

535
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: it as hard for yourself. And I think that's what

536
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: Jacoby's doing and being able to be successful throwing it

537
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: to him when he sees man and man coverage. With

538
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: Martha Harrison Jr. That's where I'm going to go with

539
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: the ball. You know what I'm saying. I look off whatever,

540
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: and then I know when on my last step when

541
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: I drop, he's.

542
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: Over there coming off the curl. And I think he wanted.

543
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: To say quarterback being able to see what's there and

544
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: getting it to him than it is the OC making

545
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: the call.

546
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: I think. So, I mean, okay, I can understand that.

547
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: I can understand that. Speaking of OC, your boy Kevin Stevanski,

548
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: he said, you know he's he gonna give up the

549
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: play calling.

550
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: Uh what offense? He said, He go let the OC

551
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: do it. You know, he said, quote, I just feel

552
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: like it was the right time for this. He might

553
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: feel like that because somebody might have to go after this.

554
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: I don't know who the OC is, but somebody might

555
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: have to go after this. And with that being the case,

556
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hand these duties over that I've been doing

557
00:26:59,480 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: to the O.

558
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: See because the offense has been playing terrible and I.

559
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: Know I can't find nobody on that defensive side of

560
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: the ball and use them as the scapegoat to how

561
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep my job as the head coach and

562
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: stay here, so I understand what he's saying, but I

563
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: feel like this might be a cop out for the sellout.

564
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: What you think, y'all?

565
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: He did the same thing last year when he gave

566
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: up the play calling. I'm just trying to figure out,

567
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 3: why would you go back to the play calling if

568
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: we knew that there was an option to give it

569
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: back up. Or I'm thinking maybe since it's going into

570
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: the boy the same coordinator as last year, that's this year.

571
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: I don't know that's a good question. But so long

572
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: story short, I mean, this is the thing. Dylan Gabriel

573
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: was his guy, Stephen Kevin Sefanski. You're a the offensive coordinator.

574
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: You were calling the plays. I think now since it's

575
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: gonna be the bye week, giving him a little more

576
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: time understanding that, I think it's going to be. My

577
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: whole thing, is it should who's going to be the

578
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator for shr door? Because I mean, if Dylan Gabriel,

579
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of escape, go move because coach

580
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski doesn't want to be the offensive coordinator when

581
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 3: your door is probably the quarterback because I think that's

582
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: probably gonna be coming soon.

583
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: And literally trying to out the way, so they don't

584
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: say he's sabotaging the man's efforts. When you get in there,

585
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: that's what you're thinking.

586
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: Man, maybe maybe, But I mean the Offen just hasn't

587
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 3: been doing well. I think he's just trying to do something,

588
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: trying to switch it up. He has to do something

589
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: because I mean, I know he knows he's in the

590
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: hot seat, and I don't know if he's going to

591
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: be there much longer.

592
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: Bro.

593
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: Like I said, I think this is this is an

594
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: attempt to be like all right, yeah, I gave it

595
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: up at this point and you know it still did nothing,

596
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I think that hey, I'm getting

597
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: getting ready to go on here and have me I

598
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: mean escape.

599
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: Though. I would love to know if the OC was

600
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: the same OC last year as it is this year. Yes,

601
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: that's that's That's what I would like to know, like

602
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: head coach just giving it out. I want to see, yeah, yes,

603
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: yes he is. But we're gonna see what.

604
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna see what, We're gonna see what kind of

605
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: place he's calling if Dylan, because now we can see

606
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: too if the same things Dylan just dump offs, dump alls,

607
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: not throwing it down the field, not even giving our

608
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: receivers type of downfield routes. Let's see if he changes

609
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: it up a little bit, because I know what your door.

610
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: Gets in there.

611
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: I want to see him, like I think, hopefully he

612
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: does the smart thing, trying to throw some balls down field,

613
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: just getting the ball out of his hand on time,

614
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: you know, just things he was doing in college.

615
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: How long till you see them having to put your

616
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: door in.

617
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: I see we lose. I mean, if we come out

618
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: of the bye we can lose to the Jets. I mean,

619
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: why not where else we gonna go from there?

620
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

621
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: It's like there's no in the defense places well, and

622
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: the defense plays well, and he just looks normal, you

623
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like he doesn't do anything to

624
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: know he.

625
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: Don't you know, he don't do no help. But he

626
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: also don't do nothing. You're not doing no help. So

627
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: we lost to the Jets.

628
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: We come off the buy off two weeks you knowing

629
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna be it is what it is.

630
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: It's tight competition.

631
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: You haven't really done too much to impress too much

632
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: to you know what I'm saying, show that you can

633
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: be that guy. If you don't come off the bye

634
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: week and ball out versus Jets and go out there

635
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: and make something happen, then your time is up. Then

636
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 3: it's time for us to at least go see what

637
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: your door can do.

638
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

639
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: But if he goes up there wins, I think he

640
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: got another two weeks. But if you come on and

641
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: lose after the bye like, what.

642
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: Are we waiting? Hey?

643
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: Word is your new or coordinator? Was the tight ends

644
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: coach last year?

645
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: He the o C. Now, so the o C from

646
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: last year he got out of there. Hey be careful,

647
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: you might be setting you up. Get you up out

648
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: of that now. Hey hey they were gon We're gonna

649
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: sit down, wait and see Kevin Stefanski. It's going over here,

650
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: going over here to another head coach, Zach Taylor said, uh,

651
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: he was not good with the criticism that. Uh, I

652
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: think it was was it brown? Brown? Too yet to

653
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: right gay to the defense?

654
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: Like I I understand like what he's saying, you know

655
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: you can't do that. I agree with him, Like like

656
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: he know they trash, you know, you know when you

657
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: look at it, they super trash.

658
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: They on pace to give up the most.

659
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: Points dude in NFL history, And the record is five

660
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: thirty four by the Panthers last year. Like they don't

661
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: already gave up three hundred and nine games, They got

662
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: eight games left. You know, you've got New England, they

663
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: got Baltimore twice, Buffalo and now the way the Cardinals look,

664
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a problem too. They you know, we're

665
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: satting there. So how do you feel about it? Will

666
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: you you agree? I don't see you disagreeing, to be

667
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: honest with.

668
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: You, Joe, No, man, I don't disagree with it at all.

669
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: The thing is, bro, it's the NFL. It's a job.

670
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: It's a professional business, as much as everybody wants to

671
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 3: talk about. Like you gotta do your job on offense,

672
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: and your job is to score every single time you

673
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: go out there. Our job was a defense, is to

674
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: stop them. Every time we go out there. These dudes

675
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: feel like crap, you know what I'm saying. So, being

676
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: another professional dude on it as a teammate, we're already

677
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: getting beat up, you know what I'm saying, getting talked.

678
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: Down too crazily, and we already feel down.

679
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: And them dudes, being professionals, are going to go to

680
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: that film and watch that tape and take that in

681
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: and know they're not gonna.

682
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: Be able to feed their families much longer. You know

683
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Plan like this, you're gonna be cut.

684
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: You're not going to be in the league much longer,

685
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: like this, So they know this while they're out there playing,

686
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: while they're missing these tackles, and coming in and then

687
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: looking at the media and hearing your own brothers that

688
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: you're trying to go to war with knowing you're trying,

689
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: knowing you know what I'm saying, You might be asked

690
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: and you played terrible. You know that yourself. You're a professional.

691
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: You didn't make it this far, you know what I'm saying,

692
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: just going out playing shitty and not knowing you played bad,

693
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like you are very self

694
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: aware of when you do good and when you do bad.

695
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: Well, those people are very self aware. A lot of

696
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: people are to losion, you know what I'm saying, Like,

697
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: you know, they think they might have did better than

698
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: what they did. Or your person that you know looks

699
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: at the tape and.

700
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, it wasn't that bad now, I was no, no, No,

701
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: it's you know for sure, you got you can't be

702
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: like that, I'm saying within closed quarters. When you're in

703
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: the team meetings and we're looking at the tape, that's

704
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: the time to tell them, damn bruh, like.

705
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: This is not a this is not winning football.

706
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: You can get all that off your chest in the

707
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: meeting rooms and the team rooms, but when you're in there,

708
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: that's media. Those are fans that's trying to get outside

709
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: stuff out there to everybody else. So now they're clowning

710
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 3: on me and making us tell me that right in

711
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: the locker. You're gonna see me on Monday meetings, you're

712
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: gonna see me Tuesday, you're gonna see me Wednesday. But

713
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: to do that and try to oust us and like

714
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 3: make us be even more shitty and have the team

715
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: not coming to me like this man media Brown telling.

716
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: Me he hot, y'all are terrible.

717
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying Right now, you're trying, you know,

718
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: answer the question back emotionally, but you in your emotions anything.

719
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: But now you're feeling emotional because you know you're trash,

720
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: you know, And I don't. I don't feel like anybody

721
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: that don't play that side of the ball should have

722
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: really any comment on the other side, Like if you

723
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: don't play that side, don't have no comment on that side.

724
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: If you're on the other side of the ball, talk

725
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: about what y'all could have did.

726
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: That's the same thing when like we were playing, you know,

727
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: great defense and the offense didn't get points or they

728
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: didn't score or whatever that what you know, whatever that

729
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: case may be, you know, it was never a no.

730
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 2: Our job as a defense is to stop them from scoring.

731
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: If we stopped him from scoring, we don't lose. And

732
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: on top of it, we can score points. So that

733
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: was how we dealt with with you know, with that

734
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: especially you know with the media, it's like, yo, no,

735
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: did we did we shut out?

736
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: No, we ain't shut out.

737
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: Well, then we ain't got no place I be talking

738
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: about the other side of no matter.

739
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: How bad they are.

740
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 3: Yes, and and the real is, the realization is we

741
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: know it as a defense, you know, you can be

742
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 3: this man. They got to get a whole life. We

743
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: didn't get a touchdown for us, but you're not. You know,

744
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: your job is at the end of the day to

745
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: make sure you never you can't go home talking to

746
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: somebody else's kitchen win you gave up plays and like things.

747
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: You know, that's what he said, you know, it was

748
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: it was it was Taylor was like yo, it was

749
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: points where we could have could have made plays and

750
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: scored more points and you know, kept the ball and

751
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: all that. That was something that you know that he

752
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: had responded to him when he had gave his comments.

753
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: So I don't have a problem with it. I think

754
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, I thought that it was just common

755
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: sense to you know, respond that way. You know what

756
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Washington, Yeah, I guess. You know, dan Quinn

757
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: admitted what everybody had already knew, like you was wrong.

758
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: He admitted that what he said, he missed it. He

759
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: missed it. What you missed you missed.

760
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: You missed the fact that y'all was down by thirty

761
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: one and you still had your quarterback sitting up in

762
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: there who had just got back from being hurt.

763
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially now looking back, man that dislocated everything in

764
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: that arm and all that.

765
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he and how long he

766
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: gon be out he when he coming back, all that

767
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 2: good stuff.

768
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: Nah. Oh you know it was out there, you was

769
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: out there coaching blind, blind and death. You couldn't even

770
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: hear you couldn't somebody would have told you touchdown, touchdown?

771
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: Who yeah? What was going on? Man? You know it

772
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: was it was bad A good thing he took. He

773
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: took accountability.

774
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: If it didn't take accountability, he would have they might

775
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: have had to fire him talking about you know, it

776
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: wasn't my fault, yeah, dude. And they the NFL also

777
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: spended the Commander's linebacker Frankie, what is it, louis the

778
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: hip drop tackles?

779
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: They got him, They got him, They got him a

780
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: botty just spending him, spending him a game, dude, I

781
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: don't know.

782
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: They said repeat they think they said it was a

783
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 3: repeater fender. This was the third third hip drop. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

784
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: I don't so. He said.

785
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: You know how hard it is to purposely get somebody

786
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: in that position, like you gotta literally run up on them,

787
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: be beside them, now, grab their hip and drop down

788
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: to make sure you got the tackle. It's so hard

789
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: to get in that position.

790
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: Most people are diving, and as you dive and grab,

791
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: you get swung. As you swing, you try and stick your.

792
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: Feet in the ground when it stops, to try and

793
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: stop him from gaining more yards. I understand what they're saying.

794
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: And I know, like I said, I understand both sides,

795
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 2: but I don't think anybody is out there purposely trying

796
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: to hip drop somebody.

797
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Dude, where do you think?

798
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, Debo, But you know how

799
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: you know, when you're trying to stop somebody from going forward,

800
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 3: you drop. And they're saying that that's the type of tackle.

801
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: So we kind of know like when we when you're

802
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: pulling from the dude trying to go, you just try

803
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: to get them to get them down. That's that's how

804
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: else are we supposed to be. It's very very very hard.

805
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: These dudes are running full speed, and I don't think

806
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: that it's the defenders are where they're putting us to

807
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: a position where it's super hard to tackle.

808
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: These dudes.

809
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 3: They gotta understand when we get him like that, they

810
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: keep on trying to drive your legs fall. You know

811
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, You need to just let it go,

812
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: like like that's how you you want me to let

813
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: it like you're still trying to drive me of.

814
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: He had to lose my whole career job. No, listen,

815
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I ain't never trying to make

816
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: it or I ain't never letting me go down over

817
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: anybody else. I just can't. I can't do that. That's

818
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: like when they started finding me, I just started I

819
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: aiming low.

820
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: Almost dudes like me. I think it was uh, I

821
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: think it was in Denver. Almost tore Deckers knee. Dude.

822
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm not. I'm not about this, dude.

823
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: And the same debo you speaking facts because I played

824
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: with TJ Ward and he blew out Gronk's knee and

825
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: they were looking at him like to me, but he.

826
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: Put us in position to do nothing else so that

827
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: we can save ourselves.

828
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: TJ wanted to hit him off the top, like when

829
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: we played against Cincinnati Bank.

830
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: He hit us. It was a young.

831
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: Slot receiver Shipley or Jeordan Shipley something like that. Fumbed

832
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: on him up top, hit him like he wanted to,

833
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: and they find TJ crazy. So teacher was like, oh no,

834
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: from now on, I gotta go low. I gotta take

835
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: out the legs. He wanted to hit Gronk up top

836
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: and just because that's the type of Hittory was. But

837
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: he's like, no, they're gonna take all my money. So

838
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 3: he went low. And he knew like not new, but

839
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: like I gotta go low or I'm gonna get fine,

840
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: and it took and ended up hurting Gronk's knee. But

841
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you And they call him my

842
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: man TJ dirty playing like TV is.

843
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: Not a dirty player at all.

844
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: You don't understand he wanted to just bell him up

845
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: top like that would have been his pleasure, you.

846
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

847
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: The ball was set up, he brady through it like

848
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: with a blue tinton ball, and he was ready to

849
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: smack him and he had to go low and take

850
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: his legs out and that ended up messing up his knee.

851
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's a bunch of situations where you get that.

852
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: And you know, like you said, even if, especially when

853
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: you were talking about a.

854
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: Bigger guy like Gronk, he's already coming that way.

855
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: You can't hit him up how because you go take

856
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: a chance of getting fine.

857
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: And even if you do and say, you know what,

858
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm a hit him in this waist. You're out of

859
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: your mind to get.

860
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: Somebody that heavy and you're that light and their waist,

861
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: you go put yourself in jeopardy.

862
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: You have no place to go and that's when he

863
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: gets That's when he starts bouncing off.

864
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: You have no place to go but the top of

865
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: the knee down, dude, that's the that's the easiest part

866
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: to get down to kick out, like, because when.

867
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: You go up top they are they're gonna swing their

868
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 3: legs down, and when you go low, their top's gonna

869
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: swing down. If you hit them in the middle, you're

870
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: gonna fold yourself like crumple. So you gotta either go

871
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: a little bit high or a little bit low. So

872
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: something's sleeping down. But something's sleeping.

873
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: There, dude.

874
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, when they were fine to me,

875
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, I'm just gonna start hitting people low,

876
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: I said, I'm hitting receivers low.

877
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: I said. If we playing you man, and y'all playing

878
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: against me, if you don't tell me, you go pay

879
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: my fine. I'm hitting you low.

880
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: If I have a blindside shot on you, like, that's

881
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: just what it is. I got to keep my money

882
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 2: in my pocket and make sure that I ain't good.

883
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: Did you did they put you in any did you

884
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: ever any of appealing.

885
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: The of yours? Dude? I appealed, uh.

886
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: I peeled almost all of them, only got a little

887
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: money back, and that was on the first one when

888
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: they find me seventy five thousand, and it was only

889
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: supposed to be uh first find was supposed to be

890
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: like fifteen.

891
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: They went seventy five because that was that was a year.

892
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: It was like it was like bam bam bam, back

893
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: to back and you're watching like like on the NFL

894
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: or whatever, somebody to sleep, somebody go to sleep, somebody

895
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: go to sleep, you know what I'm saying, And they

896
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: was just trying to make an example.

897
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Dude. I'm like, yo, nah, so I got something for

898
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 1: you though.

899
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: Your crazy thing is the hit that they had find

900
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: me for on Massaquid. They were selling that thing for

901
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: the game was over, and then you find me seventy

902
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 2: five thousand.

903
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: They ain't take it down till till I said something

904
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: that's crazy.

905
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: You don't find me tventy five thousand, but you sold

906
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: you started selling a picture immediately.

907
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: That's out of control. M No, for sure. Well, bro,

908
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: we used to have the NFL jacked up.

909
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: Bro, that real live segiment that I look forward to watching,

910
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 3: and that was sad when you would see the people

911
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: crawling out of that drum.

912
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm like this dang. We was really acting like that

913
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: was but that was the way it for us was.

914
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't want to injure you, but I don't

915
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 2: want you to finish this game. You can play next week,

916
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: but I want you to know you was in the

917
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: game against the Pittsburgh Stellers. Okay, even if we don't

918
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: get you out of there, I want you so sore

919
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: the next day.

920
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: You're just sitting in the bucket of ice. You're just

921
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: going hot cold, trying just trying to just try to

922
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: make your body feel better. This consequences, for.

923
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: Instance, and repercussions. Man, for stepping on this field. You

924
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: came out here and disrespected us by showing up. You

925
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: should have just forefit the game. So now I got

926
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: to show you why you should.

927
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: You knew, you knew he was playing against me. You

928
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: knew you was playing against these Stellers. Now what you're

929
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 1: talking about? They called they called they called us defense Nightcail. Really, yes,

930
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: that's already sleeve Man. The head coach for Atlanta Raheem Morris.

931
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: He said he didn't attend to you know, make like

932
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: you know the Patriots did something wrong, he said, You know,

933
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: he was just saying what his guys had told him

934
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: that you know, they thought they heard clapping that they

935
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: were mimiging, you know.

936
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: The snap count. So you know, I understand, you know

937
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: where he's coming from. He may not have bented, but

938
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, when you you're playing the Patriots, you know

939
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: they got him. We got a little he got a

940
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: little history listeners.

941
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know. As matter of fact, let

942
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: me go back two thousand and four. Bro, it was

943
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: it was Halloween two thousand and four. We played the

944
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: Patriots that week and then the next week we ended

945
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: up playing Philly.

946
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: Both of them was undefeated. We beat them.

947
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Okay, we played the Patriots on Halloween. Bro bought them

948
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: board thirty four, thirty four to twenty. Bro, Like, okay,

949
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: they couldn't see where nothing was coming from.

950
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: Bro. This is when the spy Day was going on. Okay,

951
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: m HM played them in the playoffs. Bro, they hit

952
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: us on every single blitz but one.

953
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: That's when they was doing that muddle huddle at the line,

954
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: yes and not you know, really hurry hurry huddle. Yeah,

955
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 2: they got our signals that first game.

956
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: Bro. They came back that playoff game, in that championship game,

957
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: BRO did that muddle at the line we go to

958
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: during our calls.

959
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: Bruh, and they catch all that bruh. And here's the

960
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: crazy thing. Everybody was like, oh, James, you're just saying that.

961
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: You're just saying that. Nah, I'm not just saying I

962
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: know this for a fact, because I'm just saying because

963
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: people on their staff like made like, oh, that's just

964
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: a normal occurrence, dude, everybody does it. I'm like, no, everybody,

965
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: don't do it. I've never done that or had that

966
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: done a day in my life, like never, And even

967
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: they recently I had somebody say, well, well everybody did it.

968
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: You just didn't know about it. Man, How would I

969
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: not know about it?

970
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: If I don't know about it, how is it going

971
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: to help me as a defense. And it couldn't help

972
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: us back then because the only people that had the

973
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: headphone in was the quarterback, and he had had lied

974
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 2: all the way up into what twelve fifteen seconds, was like, dude,

975
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: we're showing hard hard here, Oh no coming there, boom.

976
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: They going here, We're showing hard hard where it's coming.

977
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's coming there, Like boom only missed they

978
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: only missed one blitz, Dude, Like like if you ain't cheating.

979
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: They meant that, dude, you ain't trying. You ain't trying.

980
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: So I know that they in fact, they know for

981
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: a fact devo that they was on. They was onto y'all.

982
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: It was onto the signitions.

983
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: Dude.

984
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: When I said something like I said, it was like,

985
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: oh come on, man, everybody, I'm like, no, they don't.

986
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: Maybe the way y'all was talking whatever goes through there,

987
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: but I had never had that a day in my life.

988
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: Like if I know, it's like playing tech Mobile. If

989
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking at your your controller and I know what

990
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: play you picking, I picked the same place.

991
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: Over with right. Oh yeah, what we're talking about.

992
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: That was the signal had no had no speaker in

993
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: this thing, so everything was hand signals.

994
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: All you doing is sitting there. They got video of

995
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: them on the cameras watching the signal callers. Man, they

996
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: got all that. Man, they came out, come on debo.

997
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: They talking, you was talking about this. They put that.

998
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, dude, that is facts right there for show. Okay. Now,

999
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: if they were doing it this time, I don't, I don't.

1000
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. He said, you know, he wasn't trying

1001
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: to start nothing. But I mean when you don't know

1002
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: when you're done, went and started the four fires, you know,

1003
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: a forest fire one time.

1004
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 2: I gotta believe if I see you walking out there

1005
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: with some mattress and then it ain't rained, and the

1006
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: last two months you go do it again, you know,

1007
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.

1008
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: I lie to you, not though, Debo.

1009
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: When I used to watch film when I was a cornerback,

1010
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: if the if the quarterback, they better changed, they better

1011
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: changed some signals then, because if a quarterback look over

1012
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: when I'm studying my tape and gives a receiver like

1013
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 3: a two, or it gives them like of this or

1014
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: a douces or something.

1015
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out. If I get that deuces again.

1016
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: And he runs that same route, I'm noticing that. I

1017
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: don't think that's cheating. I think that is being very

1018
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: observant right in the game.

1019
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: But when you sitting there, okay, all right, and you

1020
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: already got a piece to the quarterback, it stays on

1021
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: till fifteen seconds you're doing a muddle huddle, the car

1022
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: goes out, we're set up ready to go as a defense,

1023
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: and like noah, he it is this. That's a big

1024
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: difference especially when the offense knowing what you're in as

1025
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: a defense, I don't even have I know, like no, no, no,

1026
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: there's no advantage that we can get as a defense

1027
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: because they can always change their play even if like

1028
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: they didn't, but they never had to signal.

1029
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And then you have like like

1030
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: Peyton omaha, almaha, mean everything. That's what I'm omaha means

1031
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's how you throw

1032
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: them off on that Omaha, Omaha, what dude, I wouldn't

1033
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: that's anything. And listen, I'm like, dude, don't even listen

1034
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: to that. Man. That means anything. Bro Like, even though.

1035
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: Like sometimes sometimes I'm gonna give you a dummy omaha.

1036
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: Probably he was Gary. He was Gary.

1037
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: He had I don't know how what the how they

1038
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: did that or how they you know, made rules for.

1039
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: It, but that that wasn't it.

1040
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: I Hell, you even go to the one time where

1041
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: they had cam miked up and saying oh it's this

1042
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: is this yes, and he's like, oh, oh yeah, for real,

1043
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: d okay, I got I got that's something for you.

1044
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: That's the that's the.

1045
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: Type of stuff I like, because that's from film study,

1046
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 3: great linebacker study.

1047
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: They changed it, and they changed it. We're gonna do it. Yes,

1048
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying.

1049
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: That's the good part offense is you got to switch

1050
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: it up because he's like, oh, yeah, you studied that,

1051
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna hit you with this. You know what

1052
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that's the that's the chess game of

1053
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: good good work, great linebackers, just trying to get a

1054
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: little insider like when they run this and they move

1055
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: like that, and and offense doing a great job of

1056
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: self studying, like oh no, we did this, we're doing this.

1057
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: We need to switch it up a little bit so

1058
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: they're expecting this so we could run that.

1059
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: That's great.

1060
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: Just that's that's the inside of the game, like great

1061
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 3: linebackers studying in the offensive studying themselves.

1062
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I tried. I ain't even lie to you to

1063
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: do it. I tried to get an understanding of what

1064
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: they're doing. But I didn't want to get like real

1065
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: like aligneman assignment like tips and tendencies from you know, formations.

1066
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: And I didn't want to do that because I didn't

1067
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: want to be looking for something. The only thing I

1068
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: looked for was I looked for whoever I was going against,

1069
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: or somebody on the offensive line that did something that

1070
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: was one hundred percent dude.

1071
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: Let me take you back. So we're playing we're playing Buffalo,

1072
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: and we're watching Takee and the fullback. Dude, when he

1073
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: would get down and it was a run play, he

1074
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 1: would get down and if it was a run play,

1075
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: he would do his hand.

1076
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Like this, square bro, okay. And every time he did

1077
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: his hand like that it was a run play. It

1078
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 2: was one hundred percent dude. So we're sitting there and

1079
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: we're just literally watching him. And if he was in

1080
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: the game and he got down and he was you know,

1081
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: he was there, he didn't do his hand.

1082
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: It was a pass. I don't know if he got

1083
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: set into a thing where just much getting ready do whatever.

1084
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: But literally, dude, he'd have the hand down, you know,

1085
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: this one would be sitting on his knee and he'd

1086
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: do like this.

1087
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: He did just like that. Dude. It was.

1088
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: D and we just start do we just we just

1089
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: started hollering Army Navy, bro, that's it. Like Army Air Force. Sorry,

1090
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: it was like Army Air Force, Like Army Air Force,

1091
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: like that's it. We're like, yo, they are on the

1092
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: ground or there in the air, like and we know

1093
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: this just from looking at him. I don't know how

1094
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: they didn't pick that up like they know.

1095
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: They ain't self they ain't self standing. They gotta take

1096
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: and be like, buddy, you gotta you gotta just keep it.

1097
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: You gotta keep it tack or just do it everything right.

1098
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: You know said right right, you got you gotta give

1099
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: him something to you know, look, even when you're in

1100
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: the eighties, I'm still gonna take that, you know what

1101
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, no tackle that you look at you're like, oh, man, oh.

1102
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: When he kicked that foot back wide, bruh. He trying

1103
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: to get out of there. He trying to get out

1104
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: of there.

1105
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: When he get when he keep it close, He keeping

1106
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: it close because he want to be able to get

1107
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: that foot down fast enough.

1108
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 1: Because he got a run block. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1109
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: like I would look for it. I would look for

1110
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: things like that. That was all. What did you look

1111
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: for he was going to do? Man, debo.

1112
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 3: My thing was I was big, big, big on third downs,

1113
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: on the money downs. What the receiver's running on third

1114
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: and short, third and one to three, third and thirty

1115
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: four to seven and then third and eight to twelve because.

1116
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: That was my thing.

1117
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 3: That's the money downs, like we're gonna get them stopped

1118
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: on first and second. Like I would study those downs

1119
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: two big time. But my biggest thing was third down.

1120
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: Who's off the ball, who's on the ball. What concepts

1121
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: do they like to run? Are they are six team

1122
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: or do they like to go beyond the sticks? Because

1123
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: I want to know if I can if if you're

1124
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: a sixteen, if it's third and two, I'm a back

1125
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: off and act like I don't know that the sticks

1126
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: are there and you're gonna throw a hitch or slant

1127
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 3: and I can go get that money.

1128
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: So I was really on some trying to play with the.

1129
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, the tendencies, understanding who's on and off, what routes

1130
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: they like to run. So I was a big third

1131
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 3: down because that's when like they don't really change third

1132
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: downs money down offenses. They like to run, but they run,

1133
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: they switch stuff up on first and second, but third down,

1134
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: you're gonna go to your go to You're gonna go

1135
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 3: to your good stuff, what works. So I will always

1136
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: study that, and that join was how you get picks.

1137
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: You can make a lot of players. Because everything's first

1138
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: and down, it's like depending on flows, a lot of

1139
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: things switched. But when it gets to third downs, they

1140
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 3: got a lot of like there's more a lot of

1141
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 3: set things for splits, alignments.

1142
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: And what receivers run the.

1143
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: Top of the numbers, bottom of the numbers, which one

1144
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: is on, like which one is off? How far they split?

1145
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, can he run that out

1146
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: route to the fade? So like just little things like

1147
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 3: that concepts.

1148
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, But tell me

1149
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: so into it. Like if I saw somebody in front

1150
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: of me, I immediately started getting death. I'm like, yo,

1151
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: they trying to get me to bite. I'm like, they're

1152
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: trying to get me to change. Man. People, I feel

1153
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: that I respect you. All you did to do was

1154
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: you out there and be like this, look we see

1155
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: you in coverage.

1156
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 3: We know I'm hoping that they throw it over there

1157
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: to you because I'm gonna make sure I got your.

1158
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: Bag, dude, show for show. I'm like, coach buds Man,

1159
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: best best linebackers coach I had in life, Dude, keep.

1160
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 3: Butler, come on, man, for sure, I mean you're putting

1161
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: your dropping y'all back in the cover.

1162
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, why is why is debo?

1163
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Dude, you got to realize, dude,

1164
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: the defense that we played is nothing like the defense

1165
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: even when I came back in UH fourteen on retired,

1166
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: the defense was changed.

1167
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: Even though coach the Bow was there, the defense was changed.

1168
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: They they they had to dumbed it down. Basically, they

1169
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: dumbed it down because it's a learning curve. And when

1170
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: you don't give guys the time to have that learning curve.

1171
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna get You're gonna get points scored

1172
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: on you because you're not going to know everything you

1173
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: got to.

1174
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Do in every situation.

1175
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: And like I said, dude, you can go from a

1176
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: full out blitz, ain't got nothing to emotion putting you

1177
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: on somebody locked up man to man, and if you

1178
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: miss that, it may be that one nuance then they

1179
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: score a touchdown or they get you know, you know,

1180
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: twenty thirty yards whatever that may be, and extends the

1181
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: drive and so on and so forth. So when you

1182
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: know they started starting younger guys, you know, it took

1183
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: away other parts that you know you couldn't do, which

1184
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: put holes in gaps and things, and instead of it

1185
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: being holes and gaps, it just took away that whole defense.

1186
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: So now you were left with less of a defense

1187
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: to play because now I can't run this one defense.

1188
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: But if I could run that one defense, it gives

1189
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: these three other defense teeth. Now I take away that

1190
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: one defense, these defense ain't got no teeth. Now you

1191
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: know what you're looking at.

1192
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: It simplifies the defense, but it simplifies it for the

1193
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: offense too.

1194
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they know now you're just sitting there so

1195
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 3: many moves. We could be running something completely different. But

1196
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: everybody got to know get the same thing.

1197
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: Like, I gotta be in there with somebody who's been

1198
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: in this defense, who knows this defense, who's going to

1199
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: play on that chain with me? Because if I'm sitting

1200
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: here for four by five on number two and I

1201
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: actually supposed to be blitzing, but the damn safety is

1202
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: stacked two yards behind me, he knows I'm not He

1203
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: knows I'm not covering. I need my safety to play

1204
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: at that that that that deep and when he sees

1205
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: me going, then he could roll down because now the quarterback, look,

1206
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I got this right here. Over here, they're

1207
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: coming over here because they showing hard over here, they

1208
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: actually dropping and we coming. But if you don't have that,

1209
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: you're not on that string with your corner, with your

1210
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: which your linebacker, which your safety. You don't get those plays.

1211
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: You don't get those opportunities. And you let the quarterback

1212
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: read your mail before it even gets delivered to you.

1213
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: You going, you going online like the post office? Gott

1214
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 2: Now what was coming? What did they just say?

1215
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: Undress? You know what I'm saying, what that boy say?

1216
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: Stop stop undressing yourself.

1217
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: You got us undress undressing out there, button naked, bucking neck.

1218
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: Ye know what I'm saying, bucking naked. That like you said,

1219
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: bucking naked. Look here, man, I think that's about it

1220
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: for us though. Man, look, we want to thank you

1221
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: guys again for joining us for this episode of Debo

1222
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: and Joe.

1223
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. We will

1224
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: be back here on Friday to talk about that Thursday

1225
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: night football Joe.

1226
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, y'all know, make sure you like and subscribe. Man,

1227
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: me and Deebo really appreciate the love.

1228
00:58:52,440 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 1: Keep appreciate you and we out how you doing the Jim.

1229
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: Let me tell yourself to devout devout is my time.

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Speaker 1: Rekayh