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Speaker 1: This is the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Crushed It.

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Speaker 1: It's good without further ado.

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Speaker 3: That's what the game's all about. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you feel like you can't miss.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave it up here.

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Speaker 5: You couldn't make that if you try that again?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: What in hell? Hi?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast NBA Edition. I'm Matt Moore,

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Speaker 4: joined as always by Brandon Anderson rockem Palmer Company.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this Tuesday night after Bucks Hawks Game four.

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Speaker 4: Tonight the NBA Finals on ABC, Reggie Jackson and the

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Speaker 4: Clippers take on danilo'gallon and the Atlanta Hawks. With no

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Speaker 4: Trey Young, no John Collins, no bag Gon Bogdanovich.

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Speaker 1: No Paul George. The Clippers have signed two players off

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Speaker 1: the streets.

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Speaker 4: Ken Reggie Jackson and Dave the Accountants knock.

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Speaker 1: Off the Hawks.

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Speaker 4: It's the NBA Finals on AVC.

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Speaker 1: What in hell?

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Speaker 4: We'll start with this Giannision Compo suffers a knee injury

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Speaker 4: in the third quarter, comes out like a house of fire,

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Speaker 4: trying to get his team back in it, gets injured,

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Speaker 4: has to be helped to the locker room, comes back

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Speaker 4: out of the seid of the bench, goes back to

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Speaker 4: the locker room. There's scattered reports of acls that we

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Speaker 4: don't know. We're not gonna have information to be able

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Speaker 4: to tell you to bet on stuff based off of

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Speaker 4: the Yannis injury.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about both scenarios.

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Speaker 4: Both if he's back and if he's out for the

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Speaker 4: rest of the playoffs, and if he's out for the

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Speaker 4: rest of the series. We'll run over those scenarios as

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Speaker 4: it happens. Trey Young missed this game because the slight

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Speaker 4: ankle tweak turned out to be a bruised bone in

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Speaker 4: his foot, so he missed tonight's game, though I think

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Speaker 4: it's probably pretty likely that he plays in the next game.

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Speaker 1: Clincipella got hit in the eye.

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Speaker 4: By the way, he has to see an optalmologist because

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Speaker 4: he got elbowed in the eye. Somebody wants to check

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Speaker 4: on Clinton Pella's eye and make sure it's still attached.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that tomorrow will.

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Speaker 4: Find out that I don't know, like Chris Middleton's brain

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Speaker 4: exploded into another universe or something. Since we just can't

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Speaker 4: have nice things.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's it.

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Speaker 5: I've had it with this dump. We got no food,

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Speaker 5: we got no jobs, our pets heads.

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Speaker 1: Are falling off. Let's start here.

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Speaker 4: By the way, all of today's odds are brought to

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Speaker 4: you by bet MGM, the official odds provider of the

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Speaker 4: Action Network podcast.

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Speaker 4: bets that should be really rock solid.

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Speaker 1: And I felt great about like, oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I felt great about bucks by a six raheem right

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Speaker 4: up until the moment they announced Trey young ol and

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Speaker 4: I swear to you, I swear to you, And I

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Speaker 4: didn't want to bet cash out of it because I

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Speaker 4: was like, it's like in poker, Yeah you got play cards, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I do poker. It's like when you're putting the move in,

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Speaker 4: like you you've got him, You've got him. You know

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Speaker 4: that you were putting your money in with the best

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Speaker 4: hand at that time, that at that moment, right now,

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Speaker 4: you're getting all of your money in at a at

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Speaker 4: a significant statistical advantage.

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Speaker 1: You know it's good. And there's that part of you that's.

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Speaker 4: Like, he's gonna hit river, he run a runner, he's

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Speaker 4: going to hit five six for the inside straight.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna do it. But you're like, but I have,

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Speaker 1: I have this is the play this is what I

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Speaker 1: should do.

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Speaker 6: See, you got you got pocket, you got pocket, and

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Speaker 6: you got.

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Speaker 1: Ace King against it's like four to seven off suits.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're like, I got a feeling it's gonna

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Speaker 4: go run a runner, like you already know as soon

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Speaker 4: as you go in, but you have to because that's

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Speaker 4: the play. As soon as Terry Young was announced out,

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, my heart sunk. I was like, and

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Speaker 4: everyone goes, how why this is? I'm telling you I've

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Speaker 4: covered the NBA for going on thirteen fourteen years.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is what happens.

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Speaker 4: The star players out, there's a letdown effect in the

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Speaker 1: Ah trades out. We got this, you know what.

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Speaker 6: No, it feels like it's happening more and more. I mean, like,

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Speaker 5: It's already happened to every single game.

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Speaker 6: Happened every single week in the playoffs, Like Chris Paul

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Speaker 6: was out for the first two games, the Sun's cover

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Speaker 5: KD goes off for sixty.

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Speaker 6: Against the Bucks in game five, Like it's just every

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Speaker 6: these guys like they don't like. Where's I just there

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Speaker 6: hasn't been a team that does that. Tell me the

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Speaker 6: team that does that, this championship quality team that you're

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Speaker 6: talking about, tell me the team that did that.

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Speaker 5: I mean it hasn't happened this year, but I mean

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Speaker 4: Best in the past, the Warriors played with their food.

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Speaker 4: The Warriors played with their food all the time.

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Speaker 7: I'm just gonna throw out Michael Jordan's balls because that's

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Speaker 7: what the myths says, and I can't think of any

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Speaker 7: reasons it's not true, so I say it was true.

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Speaker 6: I just I can't remember this many injuries off off

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Speaker 1: Not even that though.

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Speaker 4: But it's like, even when I talk about like dominance,

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Speaker 4: like most of the teams, unless they face really crappy,

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Speaker 4: Like most of the teams struggled at various points, and

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Speaker 4: you would say that the two thousand and eight Celtics

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Speaker 4: thousand and eight Celtics are a great team. They went

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Speaker 4: seven with the Atlanta Hawks. Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al

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Speaker 4: Horford as a rookie. Rookie Al Horford, I ever remember, Yeah, like.

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Speaker 5: Gay is game seven, baby, Like that's my favorite. But no,

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Speaker 5: But I mean I think you know what it is.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 1: This says more about the Bucks to people, because people.

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Speaker 4: Because of the narrative that no, that's the thing though,

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Speaker 4: the Bucks shot eight of thirty nine from three. The

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Speaker 4: Bucks shot thirty nine percent from the field versus a.

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Speaker 4: Twenty one and eight on seven of nine from the field.

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Speaker 4: hit six three pointers in this game, like Kevin Herder

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Speaker 1: So they didn't play well and I didn't think that

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Speaker 4: Because these situations, when that star players out, it creates

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Speaker 4: On the other side, guys get excited, like we're gonna

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Speaker 4: the wall. No, when everyone's counting us out, athletes love

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Speaker 1: They just it's it is the no.

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Speaker 4: No athlete plays well when it's like you're a heavy

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Speaker 1: Nobody plays well.

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Speaker 4: Then you have to feel like it's us against the world,

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Speaker 4: we're the underdogs. And then meanwhile, a bunch of guys

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Speaker 4: and you're playing a style the Bucks haven't scouted that

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Speaker 4: the Bucks don't know how the Hawks play without Trey Young.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how how the Hawks play without Trey Young.

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Speaker 4: And you can say, like that doesn't excuse it, and

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree, but they probably would have won that

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Speaker 4: Some of the prediction models were actually starting to tilt

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Speaker 1: And then Jannis gets hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 7: Even I was I doubtinitely was not trying to bet

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Speaker 7: And if it had been flipped, if the Bucks were

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Speaker 7: like a little before halftime. I looked and Milwaukee was

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Speaker 7: They're totally fine. And then the second half came out

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Speaker 7: the books were still like, yeah, it doesn't matter. The

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Speaker 7: you've seen so far mattered. The Bucks are going to win.

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Speaker 7: You can't trick us, because I kept waiting to be

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Speaker 7: tricked and to bet on the Bucks. That's some big

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Speaker 7: plus number and they weren't given it to us. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, honestly though, I still thought the

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Speaker 6: then somebody hit a three and it was back up

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Speaker 4: But they've done that. But the Bucks have done that

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Speaker 4: a lot in these playoffs. They've they've they've hung, and

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Speaker 4: they've hunged, definitely harmed, and everybody them and everybody's talking

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Speaker 4: about like this team socks and fire Bud and this

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Speaker 4: offense and they're such a joke. And then it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: the Bucks take the lead. Oh the Bucks are a

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Speaker 4: head by four. Oh the Bucks won the game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah that's true. Yeah, that's true. I definitely saw Hawks

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Speaker 6: minus one two Octually. I feel like this is all

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Speaker 6: my fault because I tweeted something about how I feel

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Speaker 6: like we're watching replacement players play for the championship.

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Speaker 4: And then yeah, yeah, you don't appreciate what we got,

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Speaker 4: so now we've got it worse.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Feel like it's my fault.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Look, it's a knee injury.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't walk on it.

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Speaker 7: I think even Atlanta fans to some extent, like you

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Speaker 7: I got my Chris Middleton Finals MVP ticket. This is

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Speaker 1: Is this just are we just in like, don't know

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Speaker 4: Like should we just leave the rest of the series alone,

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Speaker 6: I'm not willing to go that far yet because I

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Speaker 6: To just figure out what are the lineups? Of course,

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he'll play him like he'll play oh boy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't think the divincenza injury matters here too.

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Speaker 7: It's literally forty minutes that they could be playing now

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Speaker 7: Middleton just have to play like every possible minute that

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Speaker 2: They've got to be out there.

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Speaker 4: He's He's like, Okay, all right, that's it, Jordan Ura.

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Speaker 1: We're betting the Hawks. That's what we're done. That's it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think that's what I'm tonight was telling

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Speaker 7: So I'm looking at the numbers at Killer Sports. Here

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Speaker 7: tell you up front two it is not a murderer's

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Speaker 7: those eleven games. The Bucks straight up were six and five.

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Speaker 7: Against the spread, they were four to six and one,

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Speaker 7: The Hawks are the best team on that list, right,

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Speaker 7: even with Trey at whatever percentage he is. So it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I mean, I think you got to

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Speaker 1: But it's different if you're going to the playoffs, because

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Speaker 4: The hawks entire attitude is fuck you were good enough?

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I like this team a lot. I want good things

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Speaker 4: However, the Bucks I trust, or the Hawks I trust

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Speaker 7: Now they have two chances doing one game, Like why

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Speaker 2: Just like we've been talking.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna sound weird, but I do mean it.

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Speaker 4: Trey's young, and Trey's spectacular, and he's amazing, and he's

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Speaker 1: However, Bogdan Bogdanovitch is not a rookie. Clincapella is not

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Speaker 4: I think that will be prepared, like Dallo and Lou

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Speaker 4: But my point here is, like I think that the

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Speaker 4: I trust them to be successful without Trey more than

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Speaker 4: I trust the Bucks without Yannis constantly putting pressure.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm gonna keep honest. Yannis is a very

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Speaker 1: So let's not dog the man when he's got an

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Speaker 5: No, no, I mean, I mean that's be let's be real.

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Speaker 6: He came out in the first half or whatever and

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Speaker 1: He's averaging thirty points a game.

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Speaker 6: Hear me out here, hit me out here, me hear

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Speaker 6: part he doesn't have a reliable or consistent mid range

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Speaker 6: or three point shot. So so it's just like you

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Speaker 6: see in that first half he got two points. So

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Speaker 6: it's just like he didn't like the things gotta come

443
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Speaker 6: from your stars at some point. If you a star,

444
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Speaker 6: you gotta put the pressure on the team and let

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Speaker 6: them know. Like we've seen Kobe Bryant, We've seen Kyrie

446
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Speaker 6: Irvin go out there and say, you know what, I'm

447
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Speaker 6: putting them twenty in his first quarter first.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no no, don't be acting

449
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Speaker 4: like like they never have bad first halves. I'm bounced

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Speaker 4: by the Phoenix suns or had any of these other things.

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Speaker 1: Happened to him, like this is ridiculous, raheen.

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Speaker 5: No, but hear me out.

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Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just I'm just saying I think his

454
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Speaker 6: style is more limited and Trey is not as limited.

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Speaker 6: And then also he has guys around him who can

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Speaker 6: take over.

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Speaker 1: Like what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's better than than Yannis. He's not

459
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Speaker 6: better than Gianni's, but his offensive game is his offensive

460
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Speaker 6: bag is less limited than Gianni's.

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Speaker 5: So it's just he doesn't have to just dunk, you

462
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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: It's just like Trey can get his off from different

464
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Speaker 6: places like and when you have guys coming off the

465
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Speaker 6: bench like Lou Williams could give you thirty every night.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't even realize we were having James harden

467
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Speaker 7: On as a guest on our podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be James.

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Speaker 7: I mean, here's here's my question on Giannis, assuming that

470
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Speaker 7: he doesn't play this series, Is it a bigger blow

471
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Speaker 7: to the Bucks on offense or on defense for the

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Speaker 7: rest of the series.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean I think probably defense. Honestly, Yeah, not

474
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Speaker 4: because he doesn't have a quote unquote bag. All he

475
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Speaker 4: does is dunk. Because he does, it's seventy percent of

476
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Speaker 4: the time ran his numbers are insane. He's also a

477
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 4: good passer, but like, just defensively allows you to do

478
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Speaker 4: more things right, Like if you gotta play, if you

479
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 4: gotta play content, then you don't have the backside help,

480
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: which means you can attack the rim more, you can.

481
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Speaker 1: Slip the pick a lot more. If you don't have.

482
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Speaker 2: Giannis Lopez gonna have to play a lot more.

483
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: Lopez has to play more.

484
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Speaker 4: If you're playing portis that's easier to get onto switches

485
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Speaker 4: an exploit, Like that's what they're gonna have to do,

486
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Speaker 4: is they're gonna have to, like the start with with

487
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Speaker 4: Brooke on the floor, They're gonna have to play a

488
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Speaker 4: lot of drop and then when Brooks died on the court,

489
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Speaker 4: they're gonna have to go to switches. But the Hawks

490
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 4: are gonna be like, Yeah, we're gonna go with Portis

491
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: every time. We're gonna be portus and content every single time.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, what about Okay? Is Game five.

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Speaker 7: Must win for Milwaukee assuming that the scenario that's not

494
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Speaker 7: in play is Bucks lose Game five and then Giannis

495
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Speaker 7: miraculously it's back for the last two games, assuming that's

496
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Speaker 7: not in play, is game five must win because otherwise

497
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Speaker 7: they have to go to Atlanta and get one and

498
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Speaker 7: still come home and get one.

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Speaker 2: No m hm.

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Speaker 4: And the reason I say that is for as much

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Speaker 4: as we I like Atlanta and they've been great and

502
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Speaker 4: they've been impressive, and they show up in all these moments,

503
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: they're only really good in those moments of not being expected, right,

504
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Speaker 4: Like they catch the six They got their asses.

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Speaker 1: Kicked by the Sixers for most of that series.

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Speaker 4: But they caught him napping in the fourth quarter of

507
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Speaker 4: Game four, They caught him napping in the fourth quarter

508
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Speaker 4: of Game five, and.

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Speaker 1: Then they got him in Game seven. Like the Hawks

510
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Speaker 1: of Law are not like.

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Speaker 4: This dominant team when they look good they look awesome,

512
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Speaker 4: but for the most part, like they've lost the series, right,

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Speaker 4: So like if they win Game five, I still think

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Speaker 4: that they're vulnerable enough for the Bucks to come out,

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Speaker 4: for Drew Holliden and Chris Milton to play to their level,

516
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Speaker 4: and for them to be able to get it done.

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Speaker 4: Like I think that that's that's entirely possible. I mean,

518
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Speaker 4: the Hawks are gonna have to be favored, but I

519
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Speaker 4: don't think the Game five is like if I don't

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Speaker 4: think if the Bucks lose Game five, the series is over.

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Speaker 4: I think that they can definitely lose in six. But

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Speaker 4: I do think that Bucks have it in them to

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Speaker 4: get to win Game six and get back for seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. And then you know was in Game

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Speaker 2: seven such a bummer?

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Speaker 1: Just everything is depressing right now.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, look, Cliff clip if over a

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Speaker 4: the UH for the finals matchups, I get. I guess

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Speaker 4: Hawk's Clippers is the new hotness because let's go to

561
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: that series as we continue our descent into hell. You

562
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Speaker 4: both are very very very convinced the Suns were winning

563
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Speaker 4: that game the other night. You guys were were very

564
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Speaker 4: very convinced. I was like, yeah, I like the Clippers,

565
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Speaker 4: and then Zubach was hurt and I was like, oh well,

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Speaker 4: I'm well is that bad?

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Speaker 1: But I still part of me still like I just

568
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Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna win. I just feel like they're

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Speaker 1: gonna win.

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Speaker 4: Rightian, You said that that that game kind of rearranged

571
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Speaker 4: a lot for you. What changed for you after Suns

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Speaker 4: Clippers Game five?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing is that you know, you

575
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 6: go into certain games and you think, maybe this is

576
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Speaker 6: an anomaly maybe you know this is an aberration or

577
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 6: this won't continue to happen. And when I watch Chris

578
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 6: Paul right now, he doesn't look like the same player.

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Speaker 6: First things first, he slowed down. He's completely slowed down

580
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 6: the pace of this series. I mean, you have them

581
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Speaker 6: walking the ball up the court after May baskets and

582
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Speaker 6: you're not pushing the pace at all. Like it's just

583
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Speaker 6: like you saw camp campaign when he was playing. In

584
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Speaker 6: the first two games. The Sun's offense, I mean they

585
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 6: struggled to I mean the Clippers struggled to stay in

586
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 6: front of him, and the Sun's offense were rolling. So,

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Speaker 6: I mean, the Sun's half court offense is just brutal

588
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Speaker 6: right now. And it's just it feels like you have

589
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Speaker 6: is Paul Devin Booker kind of just taking turns, taking

590
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Speaker 6: contested mid range in three point shots, and they're I

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Speaker 6: just I don't like what I'm saying from their offense.

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Speaker 6: They're not really feet and eight in much. It's like

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Speaker 6: when you look at the numbers, I mean, look, I'm

594
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Speaker 6: gonna read out some numbers. Their half core offense in

595
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Speaker 6: the first game, they put up offense rate in one

596
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Speaker 6: twenty game two one on nine point one, Game three

597
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 6: seventy seven point six, Game four sixty nine point three,

598
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Speaker 6: and Game five ninety two point one. So it's like

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Speaker 6: their half core offense is just absolutely brutal. And I

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Speaker 6: don't want to say it, but it's just a lot

601
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Speaker 6: of guys can struggle when they come back from health

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Speaker 6: and safety protocols, and I'm wondering if Chris Paul is

603
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Speaker 6: dealing with those same difficulties, and if he is, that's

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Speaker 6: kind of troubling. And then this Clippers team has really

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Speaker 6: they've done. They've done the same thing that they did

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Speaker 6: to the Utah Jazz. They spread you out and they

607
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Speaker 6: can score at will, and when you when you go

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Speaker 6: through this series, the Suns haven't really had a dominant

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Speaker 6: game throughout this entire series, and you know, coming into

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Speaker 6: Game five, I really thought that it was an aberration,

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Speaker 6: but it's it's becoming clear that this is what this

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Speaker 6: series is.

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Speaker 5: So I think that the Clippers are really love. Are

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Speaker 5: you on a bet them?

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Speaker 6: I'm still thinking about it, just because I'm still concerned

616
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Speaker 6: about Paul George's minutes.

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Speaker 5: So I really like, I'm actually I'm doing a game

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Speaker 5: that got for that.

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Speaker 6: So I've been spending a lot of time just really

620
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Speaker 6: thinking about it before I put it out.

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Speaker 7: So well, the Clippers inevitably win the title because Chris

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Speaker 7: Paul and Devin Booker are abducted by aliens and everyone

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Speaker 7: else's you know, the East is whoever's left and the Clippers.

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Speaker 7: When how much victory lap? Are you going to victory lap?

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Speaker 7: Where him about your article about the Clippers as the

626
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Speaker 7: favorites from like four months ago that you completely turned

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Speaker 7: your back on ever since when they accidentally won the title.

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Speaker 5: I can't victory.

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Speaker 6: The only thing I'm going to victory lap is that

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Speaker 6: I was right about Tyranglu being a huge upgrade over

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Speaker 6: Doc Rivers. I was right about Terrence Man. I was

632
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 6: right about their ability to spread the floor and shoot

633
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 6: the three and that making them live. Like, I feel

634
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Speaker 6: like everything that I said in an article eventually came true.

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Speaker 6: It's just it didn't happen in a way that I

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Speaker 6: thought it would.

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Speaker 4: It's just that it also happened while the apocalypse happened.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, Dadhima, about Chris Paul, do you think,

639
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Speaker 7: and I know it's going to be the answer is both,

640
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 7: But if you had to lean toward one more than

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Speaker 7: the other, do you feel like like when you when

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Speaker 7: you're worried about Chris Paul. Are you worried that Chris

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Speaker 7: Paul is playing poorly? Or are you worried more that

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Speaker 7: Chris Paul's presence has the Sons playing poorly?

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Speaker 6: I think it's the latter because I just think the

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Speaker 6: pace of the pace of the game is just so.

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Speaker 6: It's like, why are y'all walking the ball up the floor?

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Speaker 6: This is a tire Clippers team. Paul George is playing

649
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Speaker 6: a million minutes. The Clippers have played every other game

650
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Speaker 6: for the last month. Why is the pace of this

651
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Speaker 6: game so slow? I don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, I disagree with you.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's funny that Kevin Durant isn't the playmaker,

654
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Speaker 4: johns Combo has no bag, and Chris Paul is why

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Speaker 4: the Sons are gonna lose a series? Like I'm I seriously, man,

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Speaker 4: I'm looking for like, who's good in the NBA?

657
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: Is there is there any Is there anyone who's.

658
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 6: Going I walked back all the christ I walked back

659
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 6: to all the Kevin Kevin Durant stuff. I would never

660
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 6: slammer Kevin Kevin Durant again. But we gotta admit Jannis

661
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 6: doesn't have a ton of a he doesn't have a

662
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 6: bag like that.

663
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: More moves. He's great to get to the rim where

664
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Speaker 1: he's amazing. So here here's my thought. I like the

665
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: Suns tomorrow.

666
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 4: I think the reaction has been I really can't believe

667
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 4: that we're doing this like we're supposed to be. We're

668
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: supposed to zig against the zag right, like we're like

669
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 4: the whole thing is like we're not supposed to get

670
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: suckered in by the by recency bias, like we're supposed

671
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: to like hold firm against it.

672
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: And like everyone to.

673
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 4: Day, every analyst, every bet, like everyone has just lost

674
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: their mind. I'm like, did you guys really think the

675
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: Clippers were gonna go out like that? Like you really

676
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 4: thought the Clippers were just gonna go out like that?

677
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: This team has been tough, they've been resilient, like they're

678
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: the Son's home court advantage is good, it's not dominant.

679
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: They've had the Clippers have had to win on the.

680
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: Road all throughout these playoffs, Like why why on earth

681
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: would that be the case?

682
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: The line's been interesting.

683
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 4: So it opened Clippers minus one, and I grabbed it.

684
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 4: I grabbed Sons minus one oh four on the money line,

685
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: uh last night, because I knew that by morning it

686
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: would turn, and it did. Now as you record this,

687
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: it's flipped back the other way. There's my this one

688
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: oh nine money lines out there on both sides, there

689
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: are plus Like, there's just bizarre lines out there. In

690
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: terms of the differentiation of by book by book, it's

691
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: like minus one plus one, mius one plus one, mius

692
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: one plus one on both teams. Like, there's just no

693
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: consistency right now, it's bouncing between clippers mius.

694
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: One and clippers plus one everywhere. I think the Sun's win.

695
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: I think everything that you're talking about in terms of

696
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: the pace is this is the logic that you're going with.

697
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 4: It's a it's a Your point is not wrong, Rahiem.

698
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: I think you're you're spot on. It's a good observation.

699
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: The problem is your whole here is you're saying, oh,

700
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: but they can't win that way, Like, look, they're losing.

701
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: They're losing, so it must be something. Oh, it's their pace.

702
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: Chris Paul is dictating the pace. Oh, this is a problem,

703
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: versus being like realizing they can still win. They are

704
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: the better team and can still win at a slower pace.

705
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: You can't, like, you can't look at this and be like,

706
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: oh no, the Clippers vaunted defense. You can't get into

707
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: a slugfest with the Clippers.

708
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Come on now.

709
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: The Clippers at half court defense has been amazing in

710
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: this series. It's been absolutely incredible. The numbers are just amazing.

711
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 4: They've held the Suns under a one hundred offensive rating

712
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 4: in each and every game of this series in the

713
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 4: half court That's amazing. That's also not sustainable, not it's

714
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 4: absolutely not. This Clippers defense is not that good. I'm

715
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: not like judging them. I'm just telling you, like matchup wise, statistically, like,

716
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 4: there's no reason to think that the Clipper are.

717
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: Gonna be able to hold them.

718
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 4: Chris Paul's expected shot shot quality, right I use this

719
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 4: from second Spectrum a lot. Quantified shot quality is the

720
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: lowest of any player in this series right now. Okay,

721
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 4: so he's taking bad shots, but he's also shooting thirteen

722
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 4: percent worse than them.

723
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: He got better in Game five.

724
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: The difference here is that Paul is excellent at converting

725
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: low quality shots and extremely high rate.

726
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: Ask the Denver Nuggets those mid range.

727
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: Jumpers which he can get to at any point, and

728
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: he got them last night, and they scored a lot

729
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 4: more last night. The Sun's offense looked a lot better,

730
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 4: like it was actually starting to cook a little bit.

731
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: It started to really heat up. The problem was Paul

732
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 4: George and Marcus Morris shot something like twenty of thirty

733
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 4: two from the field. Like, so, I'm not gonna point

734
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 4: Reggie Jackson though that's a that liar, It's not. Reggie's

735
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 4: been great each and every like he's been great the

736
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 4: whole playoffs. He's gonna get the bag, Like, get that money, Reggie.

737
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 4: But I do not think that the Clippers offensive performance

738
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: will sustain the Suns have like a million The Suns

739
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: don't even have to get like dramatically better at a

740
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 4: lot of the things.

741
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: They just got to get a little bit better.

742
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: And the Clippers come back down to earth and that's

743
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: a pretty comfortable Sun's win. I like the Suns tomorrow

744
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 4: a lot.

745
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: In Game six, hmmm, So.

746
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 7: Raheem is concerned about the Sun's offense. My concern watching

747
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 7: Game five was the Sun's defense. And I want to

748
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 7: talk it through because I'm not too sure exactly how

749
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 7: concerned I should be on the one hand, the Clippers

750
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 7: are the Clippers and forever we will be the Clippers.

751
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 7: They shoot contested jumpers, and Marcus Morris made like eight

752
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 7: jumpers in the first quarter. Paul George hit so many

753
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 7: contested shots down the stretch. That's what they do. But

754
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 7: they also miss them sometimes. And now that Marcus Morris

755
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 7: hit his eight, and they're alwa, he's gonna keep shooting

756
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 7: every two minutes for the rest of the series and

757
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 7: he's gonna miss a bunch sometime. Paul George will miss

758
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 7: them sometimes Reggie will miss them. So at the same time,

759
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's just shot variance, and if

760
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 7: we can say it's just shot variance, that's what.

761
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: The Clippers do.

762
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 7: But they also kept flashing their graphic up over and

763
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 7: over and over again points in the paint, and the

764
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 7: Clippers had a barrage of points in the paint. And

765
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 7: that is not shot variants and jumpers. That is defensive

766
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 7: breakdown by the Suns. That's easy buckets by the Clippers.

767
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 7: And that's not what I was expecting from the Sun's defense.

768
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 7: And I thought Ayden had a really rough game in

769
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 7: Game five. You know, we are expecting, we're talking to

770
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 7: our slack about like eight and overs one, Zubach was

771
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 7: gonna be out and what would his game look like.

772
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 7: Aydon still has these games and moments where he plays passive,

773
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 7: and I thought he played really passive in that game.

774
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 7: It's a tough spot. It's tough when they go small,

775
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 7: and now he's in it. He does now the right matchup.

776
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 7: You know, it's it's a hard it's a hard thing.

777
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 7: I'm not saying it's an easy job. But he wasn't

778
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 7: making the right impact on either end of the court.

779
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 7: And I don't know how how worried should I be

780
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 7: about the Sun's defense and that half the offense.

781
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: I already know.

782
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 7: I know they've got Chris Paul, they got Booker, They're

783
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 7: going to do their thing. I'm not so worried. The

784
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 7: defense worries me and makes me that's the thing that

785
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 7: makes me really doubt them in the series a little bit.

786
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 4: So I mean, look, I just got to tell you, like,

787
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 4: the numbers don't back you up here in this series.

788
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: In Game five, the Clippers had their the fourth highest

789
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: and their third highest expected effective field goal percentage, So

790
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: they didn't shoot like exceptionally high quality shots. They did have, however,

791
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 4: their highest differential between their actual and they're expected. They

792
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: shot eleven percent better in EFG Brandon than they were

793
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: expected to based on location. Now, look like the Clippers

794
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: have shooters, so I would expect them to land like

795
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 4: five to eight points higher.

796
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: You get up to eleven.

797
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: That's an outlier. There's a certain number of like points

798
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: in the paint and layups. I think that are kind

799
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: of baked into that.

800
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: I also think that the Suns, we've seen them just

801
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: be so good throughout the year.

802
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: Do we really think that the Suns team is just

803
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 4: suddenly bad or do we think they had a bad game.

804
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm wondering, and and like that for sure.

805
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 7: The big EFG difference for sure is watching Morris and

806
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 7: PG hit all those contested jumpers, Like that's what's making

807
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 7: those are the shots that are not high quality shots,

808
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 7: just like you said with Chris Paul, they're not high

809
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 7: quality shots. But we know Paul George makes those shots.

810
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 7: Not always, but we know he can make a whole

811
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 7: lot of those, and he made a whole lot of those.

812
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 7: He scored forty one on fifteen of twenty from the field.

813
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 7: But the Clippers as a team shot thirty six out

814
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 7: of fifty four on two pointers, and some of those

815
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 7: are those pull up jumpers. But that's sixty seven percent

816
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 7: on twos, and some of those are not those pull

817
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 7: up jumpers, and they missed a few of the pull

818
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 7: up jumpers. So I don't know what the number is,

819
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 7: but if you look at if you take some of

820
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 7: those away, that means the Clippers are probably hitting like

821
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 7: seventy seventy five percent of their other two's. Those are

822
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 7: the shots that I'm concerned about, and I remember from

823
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 7: that game. What I remember the Clippers doing is making

824
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 7: all those tough jumpers. I'm not worried about that. I

825
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 7: can't do anything about that. They're gonna hit all those shots.

826
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 7: They're they're gonna win or have a chance. I'm worried

827
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 7: about the other stuff that I don't remember, because apparently

828
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 7: happened a lot.

829
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 4: The the Clippers in that game. It should be noted

830
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: the Clippers won that game by fourteen points, right, Uh,

831
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 4: DeMarcus Cousins had fourteen points in the paint ran.

832
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a different I.

833
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 7: Was just I was just standing down the box and

834
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, right, boogie.

835
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: That was that's your differential.

836
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: It's it's DeMarcus Cousins had himself a game which, like

837
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 4: I thought the playing Cousins was a good move by

838
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 4: Tyler becking game one.

839
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: Here, here's like a couple of things that you kind

840
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: of ask yourself. Okay, so go to the series.

841
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: The first two games were like, you can't play zooboash

842
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: Man like like he's you know, you can't play.

843
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: You need to go small.

844
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 4: That's what got you here. So they went small. But

845
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 4: you can't play that because Ayton this small lineups got

846
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: killed for the first four games of the series, and

847
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: the big lineups for the Clippers did better, which is

848
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 4: why Zubash was playing now all of a sudden, the

849
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: small lineups are what's great? Like that just that just

850
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 4: instantly flipped just so was the earlier success with the

851
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: with the big lineups?

852
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: Was that fake?

853
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 4: Or was the lineups with the small ball in this

854
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 4: game not sustainable?

855
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: Or was it both? Was it? Like? No, the Clippers

856
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: are better big and small.

857
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily feel like that's the case when the

858
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 4: Sons are still up in the series three to two,

859
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 4: like I mean, but I mean they.

860
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 5: Were up in the series three to two.

861
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: Because but that's the point though, This is what I'm saying.

862
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: We talked.

863
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: We talked about how important that Game two value loop

864
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: was and how much that flips the winning percentage of

865
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: the series. I'm not the like we talked about how

866
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: the Clippers were live in this series before it started. Yeah,

867
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: like I was telling Brandon before four, I have a

868
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: lot of positions on future, So I don't I'm not

869
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: trying to victory laugh here, like I have. Yeah, Like

870
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 4: I have a diverse thing that I'm gonna come out

871
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: like a little bit ahead. One of the things that

872
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Speaker 4: I did grab in this series was I grabbed Clippers

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Speaker 4: plus two and a half wins cash, parlayed with Hawks

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Speaker 4: to win it to Hawks to win the series, and

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Speaker 4: I got it a pretty absurd number. So that's gonna

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Speaker 4: help me pay off all the bucks futures I'm about

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Speaker 4: to lose. But we like that, Like we knew the

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Speaker 4: Clippers were gonna be tough in the series, right.

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Speaker 1: But that that that that game too.

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Speaker 4: If the Clippers win that Game one, I'd be with

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Speaker 4: our Game two, I'd be with you, right. If the

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Speaker 4: Clippers win that Game two, then it's like, I mean,

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Speaker 4: they they're up three to two going to LA for

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Speaker 4: Game six, right, and they've looked like the better team.

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Speaker 4: But my problem here is that that one game in

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Speaker 4: Game two was such a differentiator that the Suns can

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Speaker 4: win this game.

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Speaker 1: And that's it.

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Speaker 4: Like, I don't necessarily think that the Suns have been

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Speaker 4: I don't think the Son's been clearly the better team.

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Speaker 4: I think the Clippers are really feisty. I think Tyler

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Speaker 4: has done a good job. I think we've lost our

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Speaker 4: lines a little bit with TYLERU just like a touch.

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Speaker 4: Like there's conversations that are going on about how Tyler's

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Speaker 4: like one of the best.

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Speaker 1: Is Tyler the best coach of the NBA?

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Speaker 4: And they're like, look at his record when facing elimination

898
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Speaker 4: and look at his record and close out games. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you mean those years when he was coaching Lebron in

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Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 1: Those years don't bring me like.

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Speaker 6: You. I said today that I believe that he's the

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Speaker 6: modern day version of Phil Jackson, and I truly believe

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Speaker 6: it because of his ability. No hear me out in regards.

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Speaker 2: To his ability to ing out tonight and it's.

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Speaker 6: Eagles, Like he told Lebron James to shut the f

907
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Speaker 6: up Like there's not a lot of people who could.

908
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 6: Like he told Lebron James to shut the f up

909
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 6: and got his respect. He managed the relationship between him

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Speaker 6: and Kyrie and love.

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Speaker 1: He built Paul.

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Speaker 6: George's confidence up. He has to deal with Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 6: and his low management. Like He's a guy who I

914
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Speaker 6: feel like similar to Paul, to Phil Jackson, that he

915
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Speaker 6: could manage these egos and stay calm and stay in

916
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Speaker 6: the moment. Like look at Brad Stevens. Everybody called this

917
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Speaker 6: guy genius and he's a great coach, but he couldn't

918
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Speaker 6: properly manage ohiouarchy with the Boston Celtics. He had Kyrie,

919
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Speaker 6: he had Marcus Morris, he had Tatum, he had Brown,

920
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 6: he had Rosier, he had Hayward.

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Speaker 5: All these guys want to kill each other, Like.

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Speaker 6: TYLERU is building these guys up, and I think that matters.

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Speaker 6: He may not be the tech, the tactician that people

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Speaker 6: you know, may want from their head coach, but as

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Speaker 6: far as managing egos, he got a Phil Jackson type

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Speaker 6: thing from him.

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Speaker 4: So Paul George is gonna think it's gonna say on

928
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Speaker 4: the Dan Patrick Show, the Tyler is racist, Scotty whoven

929
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Speaker 4: lost his mind.

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Speaker 7: Tyler's gotta just imagine, imagine having to manage a locker

931
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Speaker 7: room full of Reggie Jackson and Terrence Man and Nick Puto.

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Speaker 2: He got to manage all of.

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Speaker 7: Those egos in one locker room. Better, you know, It's

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Speaker 7: even better than being great in constant elimination games, not

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Speaker 7: being games, not going down two in every series.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's let's let's go here. Brandon, name your

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Speaker 4: finals matchup right now?

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Speaker 2: Sons Bucks him namers at.

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Speaker 1: Your finals matchup right now?

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Speaker 5: Sons Hawks.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'll go Sons Hawks too. I think you're

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Speaker 4: honest soundly what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Right now, I'm leading the Clippers. Win Game six, Chris

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Speaker 6: Paul wins it and seven. That's kind of where I'm

945
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Speaker 6: That's kind of where I'm leaning.

946
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Speaker 7: Oh and totally redeems himself back to being a good player,

947
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Speaker 7: just some time for game seven.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just got I just gotta. I gotta feeling

949
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Speaker 6: we might see Scott faster tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: I will say this that we've talked about that that

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Speaker 7: the value, how big of a play that was the

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Speaker 7: way that this series has shaped up and is as

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Speaker 7: hard as the Clippers have fought, and like we're saying

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Speaker 7: that that's one play away, one second away from this

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Speaker 7: being three two Clippers, and I do not think we'd

956
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Speaker 7: feel the same way. But you know, Matt, I don't

957
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Speaker 7: think you feel as confident about the songs down three

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Speaker 7: two versus up three to two. That's the whole point

959
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Speaker 7: is they're up three to two. Yes, I'm just saying

960
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Speaker 7: like that play is shaping up to be even bigger

961
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Speaker 7: than we possibly imagine it to be.

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Speaker 2: In the moment.

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Speaker 7: That play makes the Suns right now the prohibitive title

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Speaker 7: favorite because only of one awesome play.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next.

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Speaker 4: Week with a finals preview. Just one episode this week,

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Speaker 4: but we'll be back with a finals preview of whoever

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Speaker 4: is left from the NBA Playoffs next week. Look for

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Speaker 4: that on Tuesday before the start of the finals. Thanks

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Speaker 4: for joining us, everybody for runing Palmer, Brandon Anson, I'm

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Speaker 4: at Moore. Thanks for joining us on the Action Network

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Speaker 3: We're finished talking