1 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Welcome to jag XAM. On this Wednesday, we're presented by 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans and we're here in the Hyundai studios 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: and guys, it feels a little weird, like we got 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: to get back into the swing of things because we 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: had that little mini bye week and now we're back 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: on schedule. 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: Well then you get the bye week next week, so 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: you'll be off schedule again. It'll do the Maxi violet. Yeah, 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: right there. It'll be a couple of weeks. It'll be 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks before we're back in there. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Not too bad, all right, Let's look ahead to this 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: week and kind of what the team has been dealing with. 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Our first big thing is R and R because as 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: we've mentioned, this team played four games in nineteen days. 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Of course, two of those were in London, played here, 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: played in New Orleans on Thursday night football, so they 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: really went through the gauntlet there and now it is 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: a bit of a rescreery. They had a bit of 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: a short bye week because they had the weekend off, 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: and then after they get through this Steelers game, they 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: will have thee So how do you kind of remain focused, 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Brian and use the rest time but not get out 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: of sync because you need to still be ready when 24 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: you take companies. 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Doug did a good job obviously because they 26 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: won through that whole nineteen day stretch, but getting guys 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: off their feet, getting them home early, giving them more 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: mental reps. They talked about more time with the iPad, 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: watching tape, you know, digesting the game plan. I think 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: on the bye week it's about getting rid of it 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: all right, flushing and then coming back in, as we said, 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: renewed right, feeling revived. And I think for a lot 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: of guys, having three days after those nineteen that were 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: so rigorous is going to give them a little pep 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: in their steps, kind of like when you open because 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: I know you have a dog when you open the 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: door and it's that first bit of fall air that 38 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: hits them right, it's sixty five instead of eighty five, 39 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: and they go running outside. It's kind of like that. 40 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it'll be hard this week because 41 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: I think they practiced on Monday. Then you have your 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: normal Tuesday, and so when you come back in this Wednesday, 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: I think it feels normal. And I do think there's 44 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: the incentive, and I think these coaches and Doug in 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: particular do a good job of making sure they understand situations. 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: So I think once they get back in today, I 47 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: do think it'll be that that revived get back to 48 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: it after the bye week. I've never really been around 49 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: a team that has a problem coming back from a buy. 50 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: There's somethings that are better than others, but I've never 51 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: really since the lack of focus. 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: Coming off of it. I think they're used to that. 53 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: By that well, and it could help that. You know, 54 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: a couple of days off gives you a chance to 55 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: get a couple of guys back, right, I mean he 56 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: said Walker Little and Say Jones were likely to practice 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: this week. That's really good. And Devon Hamilton's not far away. 58 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: He may not be ready until after the bye, but 59 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: you're getting some guys back because of the extra time AFT. 60 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: And this goes into what Doug was talking about when 61 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: he was kind of going for the schedule. He wanted 62 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: the bye later in the year because that's when guys 63 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: get banged up and it benefits you more rather than 64 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: getting it right after coming back from London. 65 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he would love to have had it 66 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: maybe a couple of weeks later with this many buy 67 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: because this does make it feel starts off. Yeah, it 68 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: will and a long time with only a couple of games. 69 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 4: But he got part of it. 70 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: What do you got? 71 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? Our second big thing is going to be rivalry renewed, 72 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: because when you go up against these old AFC teams, 73 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: you always have some good games in the mix. And 74 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to turn to you, guys, because you're my historians. 75 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: So tell me about some of those good Jaguars and 76 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: Steelers matchups from the past. 77 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you one, and I think people may 78 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: have forgotten this. In nineteen ninety seven, the Jaguars won 79 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: when Clyde Simmons blocked Norm Johnson field goal a tip 80 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: in the first ever Monday night football game for the Jaguars, 81 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: and it was here blocks at Chris Hudson takes it 82 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: back right, So the game ends on the final play. 83 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: About six weeks later, we're in Pittsburgh. It's cold, it's dark. 84 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: The game goes to overtime, and the state the name 85 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: goes silent at the Old three Rivers as the coin 86 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: is tossed and the Jaguars call tails and the referee 87 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: says it is heads, and the place erupts. It just shook, 88 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: you could feel it, and the Steelers won on shovel pass. 89 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Did Jerome Battis to win on the final play of 90 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: the game. And it's the first time, the best of 91 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: my knowledge, and the last time that are two game series, 92 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: So it had to be a divisional where both games 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: ended on the final play. It was epic. 94 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 95 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: And then the one that I wasn't here for seven 96 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 3: the Jags to go to Pittsburgh beat the Steelers twice. 97 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: They do it again in seventeen. The Jaguars have timed 98 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: playing the Steelers up there well, if that makes any sense. 99 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: They've been good in a lot of years where they've 100 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: gone up there and played I think their records seven 101 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: and two up there since and one. 102 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't lost there in twenty years. 103 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: Which in order for the Jaguars had that kind of 104 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: record over a twenty year period, they have to hit 105 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: timing right, because you weren't going up there a lot 106 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: of years and winning that. So, you know, and he 107 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: will talk about, well the Jaguars have the Steelers number. Well, 108 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: I think when the Jaguars are good, they do, and 109 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: I think they're good this year. I think it's a 110 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: good matchup for the Jags. But I think the Steelers 111 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: are very, very dangerous because they believe in themselves. 112 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: I take that back. They lost there in twenty and eleven. 113 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: Here's the why the Jaguars always kind of seem to 114 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: have their number, because the Steelers were the standards when 115 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: the Jaguars started as an expansion team, and Tom Kaughlin 116 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: built his team to compete with Pittsburgh, and then Jack 117 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: del Rio came in and the Steelers had a young 118 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: quarterback and Ben Roethlisberger, so he built his team to 119 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: compete with them. When the Jaguars were in the old 120 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: AFC South and even into the I'm sorry, the old 121 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: AFC Central, and even into the AFC South, they were 122 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: always targeting Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh's the standard of excellence in 123 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: this league. Were one of the standards of excellency in 124 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: this league, and so there have been some epic games. Mean, 125 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: that's a fourth down play right there that David Garrard 126 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: gets free and sets up a game winning field goal 127 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. That's the wildcard playoff game in two 128 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: thousand and seven. So go be wins it here. So 129 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: this rivalry is dead even right, the Jaguars owned both 130 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: playoff victories and I'm in I can go point game 131 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: by game by him. The jaguars first home win was 132 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here it was epic. I mean, 133 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: it's just it's been a great rivalry. And what people 134 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: don't realize is that the Rooneys would have loved to 135 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: have been able to bring the Jaguars into the AFC North, 136 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: but they couldn't. They needed the Browns, right because that's 137 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: a rivalry, and the Browns needed the Bengals because that's 138 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: a rivalry, and everyone one of the Ravens. It just 139 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: didn't work. But the Rooney family has always been a 140 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: strong proponent of the Jaguars, a really strong proponent of 141 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: the Jaguars and the Weavers and the Rooney's had a 142 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: really nice relationship and that's part of the rivalry that 143 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: people don't see. 144 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Hopefully another iteration of it this time 145 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: around in this matchup, we do want to talk about 146 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: our final big thing, which is who are you. We've 147 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: talked a ton about identity when it comes to the Jaguars, 148 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: about what kind of team they're supposed to be, and 149 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: we don't quite know yet Steelers, you could probably say 150 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: the same for them. Coach Mike tom when we asked 151 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: about that yesterday, and he had a pretty interesting answer. 152 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 5: I think in twenty twenty three, when you're talking about 153 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: team identity, you are talking more intangible quality things, a grit, 154 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: a mindset, the approach in which you you you take 155 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 5: the circumstances. Are you a calculated risk taking group. Are 156 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 5: you a fundamentalist group? Are you a small menu group? 157 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 5: Those are the things that really kind of comprise identity today. 158 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 5: If you start talking about we're a running group, then 159 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 5: people are gonna show up in goal line defense and 160 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: open field on you. And so it doesn't behoove you 161 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 5: to marry yourself to an identity. All it does is 162 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 5: make the make this ledding more difficult. In twenty twenty three, 163 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: there's so much specialization in today's game. It just is 164 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 5: the utilization of people in very specific places on offense 165 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 5: and defense. It makes it a matchup game, It makes 166 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 5: it a situational game. You can have an agenda in 167 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: which you desire, but they're things that people can do 168 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 5: to to push you off that agenda, regardless of what 169 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 5: your intentions are. In twenty twenty three. If people play 170 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 5: open grass, open grass goal line, then chances are you 171 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 5: gonna have a difficult time running the football, for example, 172 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 5: And that's what uh the Rams were willing to do, 173 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 5: for example, when they went Nickel five to one versus 174 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 5: three wide receiver sets, they were saying, by virtue of 175 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 5: the people that we have on the field, your run 176 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: game is gonna be difficult today if you choose to 177 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 5: do so. And so from time to time you gonna 178 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 5: choose to fight that fight. Sometimes you're not. Those are 179 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 5: distract strategic components of today's game, and that's why it 180 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 5: makes declaration of identity a a stupid endeavor at this junction. 181 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: So, needless to say, Mike Tomlin not a huge fan 182 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: of declaring what kind of team you are, and he 183 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: has a point in the sense that nowadays you have 184 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: to be so versatile, right, so declaring yourself a running 185 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: team doesn't really serve you if the defense is gonna 186 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: come out completely shut you down on the run. So, 187 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: John is just the nature of the twenty twenty three 188 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: game that everybody kind of has to have that little 189 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: hand in everything and really be specialized. 190 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: It is, But I think Tomlin does first off, I 191 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: wish somebody had asked, Mike, I didn't get that, could 192 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 3: you repeat that? But I think what Tomlin does really 193 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: well is, even if he doesn't necessarily have a running based, 194 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: dominant defensive team, which he really doesn't this year, he 195 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: makes those guys believe that they're good at those things, 196 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: and he makes them believe that that's their identity. They're 197 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: a three four defense that runs a lot of two five. 198 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: They're not a great run defense, but I guarantee you 199 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: when it's third and two, those guys believe they are, 200 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: and they probably play well in those situations in big 201 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: moments like that. 202 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: Same with running the ball. 203 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh fans are going to believe they're a running team 204 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: no matter what style they have. So I think he 205 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: has that as an identity. 206 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: A very good coach, which he is, knows you have 207 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: to be versatile. 208 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: It's remarkable, you know, for fifty four years. He is 209 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: the third head coach since nineteen sixty nine, and the 210 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: Steelers have always been a dominant front right both sides 211 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: of the ball, run the ball, stop the run, and 212 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: they're not. I mean when you look at them, you 213 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: know their bottom five in run defense, bottom five and 214 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: run offense. So you say, what is this? I tell 215 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: you what they do do, which is what they've always done, 216 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: is man, they beat you on defense with their skill 217 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: position players, with TJ. Watt, with Mika Fitzpatrick. They are 218 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: first in the league with fifteen forced fumbles. They are 219 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: in the top five with sacks with twenty nine, and 220 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: they are top five interceptions with ten. So they're four 221 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: and two. Not because they're that typical run the ball, 222 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: stop the run Pittsburgh team, but because on defense they 223 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: make plays when they have to. And I think Mike 224 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: tom is just a remarkable story. He's been a terrific coach. 225 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: He was young, he was slightly unknown when they hired him, 226 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: and yet he has continued the tradition. And it's remarkable 227 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: also because you know, it's twenty twenty three and it's 228 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: the first time we're like, who are these guys? Because 229 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: the Steelers always had that identity. 230 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it helps when you have a big 231 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: ben for a while that kind of like dictates in 232 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: the defense that they've had that was always are Dentge 233 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: just tough and gritty, and now we're kind of seeing 234 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: where they're going. And Kenny Pickett's a little bit of 235 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: an anomaly so far, at least from what I've seen 236 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: him this season, John, have you seen much of Kenny 237 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: Pickett or kind of seeing what he might be. 238 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: I haven't been from talking to people up there. What 239 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: makes this team dangerous is they're so good in the 240 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: second half and well and even you know the Jaywars 241 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 3: aren't coming back in games this year, but they're playing 242 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: well in. 243 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: The fourth quarter to get out of games. 244 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: And both these teams are what gets you good in 245 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: the NFL, which is they make the big plays at 246 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: the big times. So Kenny Pickett has been average at 247 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: best in the first half, he's been off the charts 248 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: good in the second half. And when you're playing on 249 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: the road, and when you mean the Jaguars going up 250 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: there against a team that believes it plays well at home, 251 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: I anticipate the Jaguars probably being up at halftime and 252 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: the Steelers making a game of it because they believe 253 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: they will well. 254 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: And whatever you think of Canny pick Itt, when TJ. 255 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: Watt intercepts the ball in the first series of the 256 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: third quarter and puts it first in goal for you, well, 257 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: that helps you be good in the second half. 258 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: Sure have to help there, all right, stay with us, 259 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: We're going to come back here a little bit more 260 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: from Mike Tomlin about what he's seen from the Jaguars 261 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: and what he's expecting in this mapup. Jags fans, if 262 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: you want sorry, excuse me. For ten years, dream Fenders 263 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: Holmes has been proud to call themselves the official home 264 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Does it dreamfendersomes dot Com 265 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: for all of the available inventory and go Jags. Welcome 266 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: back to Jags Am talking Steelers because that's the team 267 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: they're playing this week and should be a good one. 268 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: There's a history of good games. Mike Tomlin. I listened 269 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: to his whole press conference yesterday. I just find him 270 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: so I don't know, an entertaining, He's not the right word. 271 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: It's just very interesting to hear the way he kind 272 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: of thinks about the game and talks about the game, 273 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: and just how he shared his scouting of the Jaguars 274 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: already every you know, naming every single player and who 275 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: he was looking at, but particularly he singled out Trayvon 276 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: Walker as someone that they're looking at on defense. 277 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 5: First man, we got to do a really good job 278 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 5: of managing their bigs. They've invested a lot in their bigs. 279 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 5: They got former first rounders, first overall picks in that group. Uh, 280 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 5: the edge guys really capture your attention. Josh Allen and 281 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: Walker in particular, as a tandem, wrink a lot of havoc. 282 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: I think Josh Allen's got seven sacks. I think oftentimes 283 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 5: sacks don't represent the havoc that Walker uh causes. I 284 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 5: felt that way in a in an analysis of him 285 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 5: leading up to the draft. He's just the type of 286 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 5: guy that wrecks a lot of things. He plays at 287 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 5: a with a with a violent style of play. He 288 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 5: just he's a wrecking ball. And so we just got 289 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 5: to be really cognizant of their group and the in 290 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 5: the wave that they provide, the challenges that that that 291 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 5: come with managing their front. 292 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: It's calling Trayvon a wrecking ball, you John, I know, 293 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: I want to hear John. It's just interesting because I 294 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: know we're so tough on Trayvon about not having sack numbers, 295 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: but just the role he plays in the run and 296 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: other coaches the way they see him setting up the 297 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: dynamic for Josh. 298 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's not just against the run. 299 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: He's so much better against the past if you were 300 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: give him credit for because he collapses the pocket and 301 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: he makes it very difficult for the quarterback to stand in. 302 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: On his side. 303 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: He's not a sack guy out of its vindication, because look, 304 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: the reality is, if people continue to say where are 305 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: the sacks about Trayvon Walker, They're continue to get They're 306 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: going to continue to continue to say, well, he's not 307 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: worth the pick whatever all that stuff is. I was 308 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: kind of go aad Mike said it because I hadn't 309 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: thought of the wrecking ball. Yeah, analogy, and that's really 310 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: a good analogy with him. He disrupts so much and 311 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: makes it so difficult to go to his side of 312 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: the field that it's almost like when a defensive back 313 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: can take away a of the field. 314 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: What it is is, it's the offensive line of scrimmage 315 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: is two yards behind the original line of scrimmage on 316 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: his side of the field. He's constantly got the end 317 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: and the tackle pushed backwards, so you're having to loop 318 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: behind them to get the running game going. And you're right, 319 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: forget the Sacksfridge a second, and look what he does 320 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: to the pocket. Go on NFL Plus and watch the 321 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: all twenty two replay and all you see is him 322 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: near the quarterback. And it's different than Calebon Jason, who's 323 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: consistently been near the quarterback but never made the play. 324 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: This guy allows other people to make the play and 325 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: willed Von him Wilton comes back. That's really gonna be interesting. 326 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: And again, I don't know what the endgame comparison with 327 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson and all that. I don't know how many 328 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: sacks he's gonna get. What I continue to say about 329 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: Trayvon is if you're a Jaguars fan, you don't want 330 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: to watch them play defense without him right now because 331 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: he is so stout and so dominant on his side 332 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: of the ball. And I'm not saying there's never a 333 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: play where it doesn't go right over there, but for 334 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: the most part their fourth in the league and run 335 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: defense and they're like the top three or top five, 336 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: and pressures and knockdowns and all that stuff. 337 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: He's a big reason for that. 338 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: He's not an edge rusher though he plays on the edge. 339 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: He's an edge crusher because he takes that end and 340 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: drives it in and back. 341 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: The chance to see a rusher and crusher feel free 342 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: to use it. 343 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: That's good. I like that. 344 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's see what Mike Tomlin has to say 345 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: about what he's seemed from Trevor Lawrence so far. 346 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 5: But I see a guy that that has first overall 347 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 5: type talent. He can make any throw on the field, 348 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 5: both from an arm strength and touch perspective. He has 349 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 5: unique mobility in terms of his athleticism, and I think 350 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 5: that that talent set makes him a extreme challenge. And 351 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 5: I would imagine with experience, because of that talent set, 352 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 5: he's gonna be increasingly more difficult to. 353 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Deal with, like kind of singling out obviously his arm strength, 354 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: but what he's been able to do in terms of mobility, 355 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: because we've been seeing a lot of mobile Trevor recently. 356 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: Even with a bum knee, he's out there running around 357 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: leading rusher for the team. So it's kind of interesting 358 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: to see. I mean, not that they didn't respect he 359 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: could run a little bit, but now it's being brought 360 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: up by other coaches. 361 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: You know. I was reading something this morning on the 362 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: athletic website and the writer said that Trevor Lawrence was competent, 363 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: and I thought, what a rotten choice of words. I mean, 364 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: all you see is is adequacy or competency. I mean 365 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: both of those things and so much more. He's making 366 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: a few throws a game that most quarterbacks don't or 367 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: can't make, and then last week to run and be 368 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: the leading rusher in a game in which you didn't 369 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: expect him to be very mobile. He is much more 370 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: than just competent. And I wonder why people don't see 371 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: him rising. And maybe if they question the Jaguars and 372 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: how good they are, but Trevor Lawrence is the reason 373 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: on offense why they're good. 374 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 3: Well, people who analyze the NFL from a thirty thousand 375 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: foot view, they can't watch every game. Yeah, so they 376 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: can't see every throw that we see him making. So 377 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 3: they look at the stats and his touchdowns are what 378 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: eight or nine touchdowns? That was pointed out to me 379 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 3: this week, and I didn't know because they didn't care. 380 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: I guess what I care about is he's quarterbacking a 381 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: team that's won four straight. He's quarterbacking a team that's 382 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 3: won ten of twelve over the course of two years. 383 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 3: I see him playing smart. I see him running when 384 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: it benefits him to run and when it benefits the 385 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: offense to run. He's not necessarily run for one hundred yards. 386 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: But boy, doesn't it feel over the last four games 387 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: when he's taken off and run, doesn't it feel like 388 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: they've been big moments that have gotten you big first 389 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: downs Against the Saints. I think it was twice that 390 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: he flipped the field where you didn't feel like they 391 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: had momentum. This play here, good call, Brent Reever. That 392 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: play flipped the field, gave them momentum. Mean you feel 393 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: like they were going to score when they. 394 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: Needed to score. So he's doing smart things. 395 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: He's not piling up stats, but they've been up in 396 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: the second half of four straight games. You don't necessarily 397 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: need your quarterback to throw for three hundred and ninety 398 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: yards in that situation you needed to win the game. 399 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: So I is he elite yet I don't know what 400 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: all that means. 401 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: He's five and two. 402 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Also, we have to look at some of the touchdown 403 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: numbers are down because Travis e. Tan is getting all 404 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: of the touchdowns in some of these games. 405 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: So really good teams run for a lot of touchdowns historically, 406 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: that's one of the key stats this team has run. 407 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: Has what run for seven with Travis or like nine 408 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: with Bigsby? 409 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, or is it eight. 410 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: Well, either way, once you get up into those high 411 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: teens in terms of touchdowns rushing, it means you can 412 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: do what you. 413 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 4: Want to do in the red zone. The fact that 414 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: they're doing that's really important. 415 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: And we've talked so much about the versatility on this team. 416 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: They're going to be spreading the ball around and that 417 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: includes the running backs. So we have to kind of 418 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: put it all together. And we know our national colleagues. 419 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: It's hard to watch every single team, so when you 420 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: look at the box score, maybe you don't always see it. 421 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: You know, it's not hard to do. It's not hard 422 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: to pick up the phone and call some bucket. It's 423 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: not hard to pick up and go, hang on, this 424 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: is what I see? Is he playing well? I see 425 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: what all you? Eight touchdowns? That's disappointed to people in Jackson. 426 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: That's not hard to do. They could do that fair enough. 427 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get the call now, Brian, we put the 428 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: signal out, so we'll have them call you and get 429 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: the insider details. Say with us. We got hot takes 430 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: coming up after the break here on jags am. Welcome 431 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: back to jags am price dot com. The easiest way 432 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: to save money with comparison, shopping, cash back, coupon and 433 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: all in one. It is free check out price dot 434 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: com today. This Trice dot Com is a presenter of 435 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: this or that. I'm sorry called it hot takes. We're 436 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: doing this or that today. So, Brian, what do you 437 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: have for this or that thing? Man? 438 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: What it will be six days from the trade deadline? 439 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: And all you see is you click around the internet 440 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: or you know rumors and stories and who's what. So 441 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: here's my question. Would you, knowing what you know about 442 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: this team and where they're at and the way that 443 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: they're pressuring the past rusher, if not getting the sack, 444 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: would just swing for the fences? I mean, would you 445 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: throw the first round pick out there or a second 446 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 2: whatever it may be, for Daniel Hunter or Brian Burns 447 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: up in Carolina? Or would you be content to hit 448 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: him in the park and you get on base with 449 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: a guy of josh Ucha in New England is a 450 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: name that I have seen, and there's an edge rusher 451 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: who has fallen out of favor in New York. Would 452 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: you be willing to go get some help and protect 453 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: you overall draft picks and your salary structure, or would 454 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: you say the hell would let's. 455 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: Go in theory, I would, you know, And it's gonna 456 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: be a bad answer because you've got to know what 457 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: it's gonna cost, and you've got to know what it's 458 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: gonna cost in terms of long term Is it going 459 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: to be a locker room fit. There are factors out 460 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: there that don't fit that well in a bullet point lists. 461 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: So I understand if they don't, you know, sure, it's 462 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: always better to be better and get guys. If they 463 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: could get it Daniel Hunter, who's gonna come in and 464 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: get you eight or nine sacks and really make you 465 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: a fierce, fast rushing, fierce pass rushing team, then yeah, 466 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: I kind of don't think they will because I believe 467 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: that they think their past rush is better than people see, 468 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: because I believe they believe they're affecting the quarterback and 469 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: there's more to just getting them on the ground. So 470 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: I kind of think they won't. But I'll be holding 471 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: my brass like everybody else. 472 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: I don't think they will. But I will be on 473 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: record as saying they should whatever that may be. And 474 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play GM in the sense of they 475 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: should get this or that whatever they think they need 476 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: for the team. I think they should not be clutching 477 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: their pearls in terms of draft picks, holding onto them. 478 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: If it takes a pick to get something that they 479 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: need for this team to be complementary and put them 480 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: over the edge, then they should absolutely do that. 481 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they care. I don't think they 482 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: care that much about the pick. There is an element. Okay, 483 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: you go get a pass rusher. And I haven't heard 484 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: this manybody. 485 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking. 486 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: I was thinking out loud, you'll get a pass rusher, 487 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: and the pastor rusher said, Hey, if this deal is 488 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 3: gonna happen, I need a long term contract. We don't 489 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: have Josh signed to a long term exactly. My so 490 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: is that dynamic dangerous. I don't know the answers to those, 491 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: but those are the kind of things you have to 492 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: look at. And if you signed to long term deals, 493 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you can't sign Josh, who's a homegrown guy. 494 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 3: So I think there's a little bit there of Uh. 495 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: I don't know what all those answers are, but that's 496 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: the kind of terrain you've got to walk in. 497 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: You can only have so many of those, you know, 498 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: twenty five thirty million dollar guys, because you're gonna have 499 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: a fifty five million dollars a year quarterback. You may 500 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: have a twenty million dollar wide receiver, probably have a 501 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 2: twenty million dollar corner. So if you're gonna go and 502 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: swing for defenses for a hunter, which is the name 503 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: of Brian Burns, you're you're taking someone else out of 504 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: play because you can't have that many guys that are 505 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: in that salary structure. You have to choose. And this 506 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: team has a bunch of homegrown guys that they want 507 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: to pay. 508 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: We want all of them, We want all the things. 509 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: I love to see if that works out. John, What 510 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: is your this or that for us this week? And 511 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: I do that involves the offense? 512 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? Is this and I need to read it to 513 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 4: make sure I'm getting it right. 514 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: Is the Jaguars offense already defined or is it poised 515 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 3: to break out? And we're seven games then, so, you know, 516 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: I won't be disingenuous to say that I don't always 517 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: you know, I'm a believer that. 518 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 4: You sort of know your team after six or seven games. 519 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: So is this offense what I consider a big play offense? 520 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: At the end of games? 521 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: It makes plays, it makes clutch plays or they're more there. 522 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: I kind of got to go against what I usually 523 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 3: say because I think once a Jones gets back, yeah, 524 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: I think once Walker Little is in, there are pieces 525 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: that make you think that they're really close. I think 526 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen is what usually happens. There's what ten 527 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: games left. People want to see a final ten games. 528 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: They're gonna score forty two points a game. Yeah, Well, 529 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 3: I think what's more likely to happen is I think 530 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: you're gonna have four or five games the rest of 531 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: the season where they really click, and I think in 532 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: three or four the thoughs you're gonna blow a team out. 533 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: I think this team's capable of that. 534 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: And then you're gonna have some games where you're sort 535 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 3: of clunky, because's what the NFL is. 536 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: But I think there's more on the high end for 537 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 4: this team to achieve. 538 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 2: Here's why I say poised to break out because they've 539 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: been so below average on third down. I mean last 540 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 2: week they had eight consecutive third down opportunities that they 541 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: failed to convert. We haven't seen what they can be 542 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: when they can convert, especially the third down and four 543 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: to six range and stay on the field, then I 544 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 2: think we'll see what they can be. But right now 545 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: their third down conversion rate is about thirty four percent, said, 546 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: bottom five, bottom six in the league. I don't think 547 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: until they start converting on third down, which I believe 548 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: they can and will, that we'll see who they actually are. 549 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 4: I think says going to be huge in that. 550 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 3: You know, I almost wonder if I don't know, if 551 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 3: we haven't talked to day about it, if you're unsure 552 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: about him at all. 553 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: This week you're about to find out. 554 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: Maybe you leave. 555 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 3: Him out for one more week, one more buy and 556 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 3: get him back full go. 557 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: Now. If he's ready, he'll play. 558 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 2: But he is. 559 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: It's so obvious what he means to them on third down. 560 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: We saw it last year, and it's almost like we 561 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: saw it and didn't really absorb it how good he 562 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: was on third down. 563 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: By the way, you want to talk about guys that 564 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: you might have to pay again, he's making eight million 565 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: dollars a year. He's got another year on his deal, right, 566 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he is underpaid for what he means to 567 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: this team. 568 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: In my opinion, there are some decisions that are going 569 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: to have to be made and maybe some veterans, you know, 570 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: taking the hometown discount or whatever you want to call it, 571 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: if they are happy with the situation or they go 572 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: after their money. I mean they've been in lot to 573 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: different situations and I just say that because we've talked 574 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: to Kirk and we talked today before and they've been 575 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: in bad situations and I think that's what makes them 576 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Evan as well. So there is something you 577 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: said about but money is money. 578 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: I know there's also a quarterback. 579 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: What quarterback it matters this or that. This week is 580 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: about the offensive line. We saw them play above average 581 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: against the Saints, not allowing any sacks, no quarterback hits, 582 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: and I think one pressure in that Thursday night matchup. 583 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: So Cam's been back for a couple of weeks. Now, 584 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: Walker Little hopefully back. If not this week, he'll be 585 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: back after the bye. So is this offensive line good now? 586 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: Are we okay? Or do we need to kind of 587 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: still rearrange something. 588 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: Well, you get Walker a little back in, they're hopefully 589 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: what you see. Because I asked the question of Doug 590 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: Peterson about a week ago, you know, I haven't seen 591 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: the center play all that well, and his response was, well, 592 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: the guard play hasn't been well in the three different 593 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: starting left guards, they have had two different guys playing 594 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: guard on the right side because of the injuries that 595 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 2: Brandon Sherriff has had. So my guess is is that 596 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: once Walker gets back in and Sheriff and the ankle, 597 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: you know, shores up a little bit, hopefully this rest 598 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: time gets him back to closer to full strength that 599 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: we will then see an offensive line that functions better. 600 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: I think the problem has been the inability on third 601 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: and short to run the ball straight ahead. Right. Teams 602 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: have been able to take away third down and short 603 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 2: because the offensive line has not been powerful. So I 604 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: still need to see more and hopefully we see that 605 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: with Walker Little's emergence. 606 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if they were better in short yardage, 607 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: this line's play for the first seven weeks would feel 608 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: more okay. Yeah, And I think it's it's had some 609 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: stuff in the passing game interns of protection, but most 610 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: teams have stuff over the course of a season in 611 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: this day and age, especially when you're in a half 612 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: two situations. 613 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 4: So I agree with Brian. 614 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: If you can get you know, third and one, fourth 615 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: and one in the interior working a little better, and 616 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: you're say any other thing to remember, davidziv Lyne deserves 617 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: a little bit of credit. 618 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: When you've get seven rushing touchdown. Yeah, so it's there. 619 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: It's not a tragedy, but there have been moments on 620 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: third down that are just keeping them from being as 621 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: good as they want to be. 622 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: But think about Walker Little, who we think is one 623 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: of the best offensive linemen on this team, maybe the 624 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: best offensive lineman by performance from what we've seen from 625 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: him this year. And if you plug him in a 626 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: guard and he's shown the ability to play there, how 627 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: much better does he make you? We saw what eight plays. 628 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: Of what say. We didn't get see much of it 629 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: in that lending game before it, but. 630 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: The word was was that he had adapted well on 631 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: the practice field and they were excited about what he brought. 632 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of reason for optimism. 633 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: And you know, give them credit. They had a quarterback 634 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: who was playing with a knee brace and we were 635 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: uncertain and they didn't let him get touched. Right, That's awesome. 636 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: That is amazing stuff for an offensive line that we 637 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 2: didn't think was playing all that well. I think it's 638 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: a sign of what's to come. 639 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: Also, I want to give a little bit of a 640 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: shado out to the rookie. Anton Harrison has really stepped 641 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: up his game the last couple of games, because we 642 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: were talking about you know, he was in that mix 643 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: where Chris Joe was coming out. He had that little 644 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 1: gauntlet period right there where it was tough on him. 645 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: He's just working so much better. 646 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 2: He's smart. You see the way that he maneuvers himself 647 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: and the little ways at the end at the edge 648 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: of the pocket as the quarterback stepping up that that 649 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: he gets his body in the way and keeps Guys, 650 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: he's been really good the last couple of weeks. He's 651 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: a really impressive player. 652 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: All right, stay with us, we'll preview what we got 653 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: going on the rest of the week. Here on jakesam up. 654 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: They get it and it's gonna give us one. He's 655 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: gonna give him one. 656 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 5: Or man Rods dropping his car, looking steps forward. 657 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: Fires in the middle of the field. In that ball 658 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: is picked off by Toya Lewis good off the deflection 659 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: to the fifteen as he runs it back. Pgles for 660 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: the pilot, I tell you what about you. 661 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: What boyea a look and run back to the fucking interception. 662 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: For the sport tell you about. 663 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: What I'm telling you what he had a nose who 664 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: the end zone died through the pylon. 665 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jag zam Field's Auto Group, Jacksonville. Step 666 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: up to luxury at Fields Auto dot Com. That's Mike 667 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: w R. Wrecking Ball Trayvon Walker, and they left out 668 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: one of my I do want to recommend you guys 669 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: go watch the full thing because my favorite clip of 670 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: that is when Derek Carr starts screaming at his receiver. 671 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: Trayvon's right behind him and contry accent wasn't there. 672 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: You know, for a guy who doesn't say a lot, yeah, 673 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: he never stops talking on the field. 674 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: Pretty funny. 675 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: And then I mean, the folks haven't seen the special 676 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: that you did with him on YouTube. They should go 677 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: back and watch it. He's besides being a really good 678 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: football player, seems like he's a really good person. I 679 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: really like him and think that he's the kind of 680 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: guy you want your locker room. 681 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: He's good and he's a country Georgia boy. So sometimes 682 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: you need the subtitles on the at least I do. 683 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes you need the subtitles of what he's talking trash about. 684 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: But you was good what you guys got going on 685 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: this week? Who are you talking to? What are we doing? 686 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna catch up with Bernie Parmley. I mean, when 687 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: you've got a running back that's scored two touchdowns in 688 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: three consecutive games. Plus he's a long time NFL running 689 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: back and running backs coach and has an appreciation for 690 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: the importance of the running game and the Steelers and 691 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: the history of it. So I'm gonna catch up with 692 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: him and talk about all things running. 693 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: And I'm hoping to talk to Travis on the ozone podcast. 694 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: Haven't confirmed that yet. We'll be talking to somebody. 695 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: Somebody will be chatting, all right. Stay with us for 696 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: our JAGXAM episode tomorrow. We're gonna go in depth on 697 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: that Steelers matchup. Talk to one of our insiders, tell 698 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: you what you need to know for the game on Sunday,