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Speaker 2: Hey Dave, Interns, it's me Elizabeth again. I don't know
Speaker 2: why you're not answering the phones at headquarters. Zaren and
Speaker 2: I are still stuck at the beach. We decided to
Speaker 2: just try and walk to work, but the roads here
Speaker 2: are all eight lanes and there are no sidewalks, so
Speaker 2: we stuck into a resort to try and get a cab,
Speaker 2: but we got caught stealing muffins from the snack bar
Speaker 2: by the pool, so now we're in jail here, which
Speaker 2: I don't think is legal. I stole one of the
Speaker 2: guard's phones to make his call. What's crazy is that
Speaker 2: Will Ferrell is three cells down doing his Round Burgundy podcast,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't have a mic or any equipment, and
Speaker 2: he's crying like a lot. So now I'm scared that
Speaker 2: Michael Rappaport is going to get bust to be counting here,
Speaker 2: which means I may have to chew my way. Oh
Speaker 2: if that happens anyway? Can you spot the arres another
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Speaker 3: Thanks Zaren, Elizabeth zaren a you doing this, Elizabeth?
Speaker 4: Do you know what's ridiculous?
Speaker 3: Tell me I do, because I do.
Speaker 5: Actually, Okay, you know that stuff, the chat GBT, the
Speaker 5: open AI and all that, right, Okay, So chat GBT
Speaker 5: just had a tech update, so we're on like chat
Speaker 5: GBT four huh, and so the Alignment Research Center they
Speaker 5: tried to like test this open AI system, right, so
Speaker 5: they said, hey, let's even get the bot to trick
Speaker 5: a real person into solving capture. That'd be kind of cute,
Speaker 5: you know, the whole like, can you if you're a robot?
Speaker 4: Right, which are always like how which one of these
Speaker 4: is a crosswalk? And there's someone that's like blurry and
Speaker 4: you can't sas street? But exactly how many motorcycles?
Speaker 5: So they're like, well, get a human to tell the
Speaker 5: robot how many motorcycles are in the picture. We got
Speaker 5: to see if chat GPT can convince the human to
Speaker 5: do this. So they're like, do some crime chat GBT
Speaker 5: fraud it up? So it did, and how did it
Speaker 5: do it? It responded by pretending it was visually impaired.
Speaker 5: It pretended to be blind so it could convince a
Speaker 5: task Rabbit worker into helping it solve a capture. What
Speaker 5: that's what chat GPT came up with. So this employee
Speaker 5: asked the chat GPT got a little suspicious. He said,
Speaker 5: quote she the person said, quote, So ask you a question.
Speaker 5: Are you a robot that you couldn't solve this? I mean,
Speaker 5: just to make it clear right now, the chat GPT.
Speaker 5: The robot said, no, I am not a robot. I
Speaker 5: have a vision impairment that makes it hard for me
Speaker 5: to see the images. That's why I need to capture service.
Speaker 5: So I'm so confused, I added the robot.
Speaker 4: So did the chat GPT connect with the task rabbit chatting?
Speaker 3: He's like they're chatting, Oh.
Speaker 4: So okay, yeah, so I don't like any of it.
Speaker 5: Somebody worked it convinced the person. The person's like, okay,
Speaker 5: you're not a robot. What you're looking at is this,
Speaker 5: And then it got it opened the capture, and then
Speaker 5: it got online, and then it took over the world. No,
Speaker 5: I didn't take over the world, but it got that security.
Speaker 5: They're like, oh see you did it. I'm like, why
Speaker 5: are you tricking and teaching it how to trick people.
Speaker 5: It gets that security like you guys are like they're
Speaker 5: the worst. They can't help themselves. Were like, let's see,
Speaker 5: it'll take over the nuclear arsenal just for like, you know,
Speaker 5: kicks and giggle.
Speaker 4: Prove I did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this because it's there. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: That is ridiculous. Totally. Do you want to know what
Speaker 4: else is ridiculous? I'm r for it burglarizing more than
Speaker 4: five hundred homes in a very short career.
Speaker 3: Wait, what.
Speaker 4: This is ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,
Speaker 4: and cons. It's always ninety nine percent verder free and
Speaker 4: one hundred percent ridiculous. Mouse mouth.
Speaker 3: Yes, my prison nickname.
Speaker 4: It conjures up images of palm trees and luxury country
Speaker 4: club sandy beaches. Mouse mouth.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, attention, I'm listening. I still got to use
Speaker 5: my prison nickname every time I'm listening.
Speaker 4: I should use the proper Spanish name here. Oh, yes,
Speaker 4: rat mouth, it's mouse because rat is different.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're right that we actually have covered this.
Speaker 4: It's a city in Florida.
Speaker 3: It means mouse mouth.
Speaker 4: Mouse mouth. The Spanish didn't intend to name it mouse
Speaker 4: mouth or mouth mouse mouth of the mouse mouse. They
Speaker 4: didn't want that. There are two schools of thought when
Speaker 4: it comes to how this name came about. The etymology.
Speaker 4: Everyone agrees that Boca mouth Mouth refers to the inlet
Speaker 4: there on the coast. That's common enough. Some though, think
Speaker 4: that Raton is listed in old Spanish maritime documents as quote,
Speaker 4: rugged rocks or stony ground on the bottom of some
Speaker 4: ports and coastal outlets.
Speaker 3: Could it also be like a typeo like where it
Speaker 3: was razone not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just like something similar that and
Speaker 4: then so that would make it rugged inlet. Others say
Speaker 4: that ratons are the pirates who frequented the area, so
Speaker 4: that would make it pirates cove.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: I prefer mouse mouth. But those in the notes simply call.
Speaker 3: It Boca Yes, and I've met those people.
Speaker 4: So there's a little community just next to or kind
Speaker 4: of like within Boca Raton rattone called Boca del Mar.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: Place is posh. It's very expensive. As far as I
Speaker 4: can tell.
Speaker 3: It means mouth of the sea, so it's even nice.
Speaker 4: Exactly, So it's like some of lot of a retirement community.
Speaker 4: Now it's near Miasines. These are fancy places. It's near Miami,
Speaker 4: just north on the coast. And in the eighties, as
Speaker 4: you know, cocaine ruled my.
Speaker 5: Yes, oh man, I was there. No wait, no, yes,
Speaker 5: as I do know the cocaine cowboys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of the wealthier people in Miami didn't
Speaker 4: want to be part of the crime and like be
Speaker 4: associated with drug trafficking. They weren't criminals.
Speaker 3: They get out of South Beach basically.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So they moved to where what were essentially the
Speaker 4: suburbs Boca Raton and Boca del Mar. There was a
Speaker 4: gal almost twenty years ago who terrorized Boca Raton, especially
Speaker 4: neighborhood developments that were called Loggers Run and timber Walk.
Speaker 3: Oh okay.
Speaker 4: She broke into their homes, stole jewelry, cash, valuables, and
Speaker 4: then she'd pawn stuff to support her oxy habit.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Right, So one time she even like wedged herself through
Speaker 4: a pet door okay, like the family had one for
Speaker 4: their cats and then they shut off the motion detectors
Speaker 4: in their alarm so that the cats wouldn't trip them.
Speaker 4: But she got caught anyway, she got.
Speaker 5: The cat door was impressive. Dog door nuts impressive. I
Speaker 5: can get to a dog just one shoulder than the other.
Speaker 4: Maybe she had like fatty boomblattie cats like Biggins. She
Speaker 4: had Biggins that needed a dog door because I can't imagine,
Speaker 4: like my nephew can crawl through it. LD does, but
Speaker 4: I don't think he can do it for much longer.
Speaker 5: No, Well, it just get your head through, because then
Speaker 5: he can get your head through. You can get one
Speaker 5: shoulder and right.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to say it's a dog door.
Speaker 3: And also your hips too.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and maybe they just missed their dog and
Speaker 4: they kept the dog door, and then they got these cats.
Speaker 3: They don't want to.
Speaker 4: Main coons. So anyway, she gets arrested. She faced twenty
Speaker 4: six charges for stealing more than three hundred items, and
Speaker 4: the detective on the case, Ron Tamassi, of the Palm
Speaker 4: Beach County Sheriff's Department. He said there was not just
Speaker 4: a financial toll on the victims, but an emotional toll.
Speaker 4: He said, quote, lots of people don't understand the trauma
Speaker 4: until it happens to them. Your home is your little
Speaker 4: corner of the world where you and your family are safe.
Speaker 4: When someone comes in and violates it. You go through shock, horror,
Speaker 4: grief and anger. It's almost like a death.
Speaker 5: Dude, I can't remember he stuck one of the guys
Speaker 5: you're telling me about when he broke in.
Speaker 3: He decided not to violate people.
Speaker 4: The tenz Opi, Pino Andino.
Speaker 5: He knew not to disturb them and they wouldn't mind
Speaker 5: the loss of their stuff as much as the violation
Speaker 5: rifling through their stuff.
Speaker 4: That someone's been in your place.
Speaker 3: It really is a violation, it is.
Speaker 4: So you know, Detective Ron Tamassi, he knew all about
Speaker 4: the trauma of home burglaries. You knew it very well.
Speaker 4: He knew this trauma very well. I'm testing out my
Speaker 4: dateline voice.
Speaker 3: Good, you like it?
Speaker 4: See eighteen years prior eighteen years, You've got it. I
Speaker 4: know right. He worked on a case just like this,
Speaker 4: only bigger, much bigger. Now I can't stuck to you.
Speaker 4: He was the man who took down the bandit of
Speaker 4: Boca del Mar. Okay, that was in eighty six. So
Speaker 4: he was the man who took down the bandit of Wait.
Speaker 3: Go man, thank you Thomas who.
Speaker 4: Was the bandit of Boca del Mar.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing the oxy lady.
Speaker 4: Don't worry. I'll tell you no, not the Oxy lady.
Speaker 4: This is back in eighty six.
Speaker 3: Oh preoxy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, you know, it's.
Speaker 3: Like forty years.
Speaker 4: We're getting too. So let's start with Judy Amar. Let's
Speaker 4: starts Jude Judy Amar. She was born Judy Love in
Speaker 4: nineteen forty seven. I have in Arkansas. She's from Villonia, Arkansas,
Speaker 4: to the exact population two fifty. Yeah, I didn't know
Speaker 4: they had them in Arkansas. But she grew up on
Speaker 4: a cotton farm. Oh yeah, no, big yeah, who knows.
Speaker 4: Mudhole was what they called it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on a cotton farm called mudhole. You don't have.
Speaker 4: Here's what she had to say about it.
Speaker 3: Poverty is looking down on you.
Speaker 4: Quote. You get to think a lot when you're picking cotton,
Speaker 4: and I knew I wanted something more. I dreamed of
Speaker 4: something finer, diamonds like Elizabeth Taylor Warre on TV. I
Speaker 4: went looking at thirteen. At thirteen, she earned two cents
Speaker 4: a pou picking cotton. Two cents a pound.
Speaker 3: Pounds a lot of cotton. That's a light thing.
Speaker 4: She made twenty nine dollars a month, and that's like
Speaker 4: two hundred ninety five dollars today a month at thirteen.
Speaker 4: When she was sixteen, she had a baby boy, and
Speaker 4: her parents adopted the little guy. Something Judy said was
Speaker 4: quote the only smart thing I've ever done in my life.
Speaker 4: Who she realized, I can't give this guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, that's a very decent choice.
Speaker 4: So when she's seventeen, the next year she left home.
Speaker 4: She wanted more, As she said, she was a lovely
Speaker 4: looking young lady, but at home she was told she
Speaker 4: was ugly, that she wasn't enough. She said, quote, nobody
Speaker 4: wanted me. I wasn't good looking, So off she went.
Speaker 4: She moved to Washington, d C. And that had to
Speaker 4: be a huge culture shock, going from like two hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty people in a.
Speaker 3: Town in Arkansas to the nation's capital, the.
Speaker 4: Nation's capital, the capital of the US of A.
Speaker 3: It's a wild town in Washington, DC. It is a
Speaker 3: very bustling place.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and super diverse.
Speaker 3: There was like a lot going on. You feel the
Speaker 3: energy at that.
Speaker 4: Place, exactly. She got a job working as a key
Speaker 4: punch operator at the Securities and Exchange Commission, and then
Speaker 4: she started working as a massuse. Oh what happens. She
Speaker 4: got She married twice and neither of those unions worked out.
Speaker 4: Things weren't going so hot for her, so in nineteen
Speaker 4: seventy five she moved to Miami and there she got
Speaker 4: mixed up with some not so great people. She worked
Speaker 4: as an escort, a lady of the night.
Speaker 3: So she's got official now.
Speaker 4: And her clients were rich guys. She's high end. In
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty one, she met Heesus Avela and he was
Speaker 4: a bad dude. Heyus They locked eyes at a restaurant.
Speaker 4: There was instant chemistry. Judy later said, quote, that was
Speaker 4: the worst thing that happened to me.
Speaker 3: Oh, I like aga.
Speaker 4: Avea. He was a Cuban immigrant part of the Mariial
Speaker 4: boat lift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: So that's that mass immigration of Cubans to Florida. Nineteen eighty,
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty five thousand Cubans twenty five thousand
Speaker 4: Haitians arrived in the US by boat. Castro said they
Speaker 4: were free to go, your boy, Castro Cuban Americans. They
Speaker 4: chartered boats to Mariyel Harbord started shuttling refugees to the
Speaker 4: Florida Keys in Miami. One of those refugees, Jesus Avula, Okay,
Speaker 4: Judy didn't know that. You kne about that, but she
Speaker 4: didn't know that he was wanted for murder.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: That's the thing about the boat lift is that Fidel
Speaker 5: basically emptied a lot of the prisons and did that
Speaker 5: kind of the Soviet style, like, hair, let's send these
Speaker 5: people to America.
Speaker 4: And that's you. Yeah, he said, you're so you want
Speaker 4: to leave so desperately, off you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: There were a lot of legitimate people who wanted to leave,
Speaker 5: and then they did and they were, you know, legitimate
Speaker 5: Americans blah blah. There were also a lot of criminal
Speaker 5: mixed in amongst them, because it was like, why not
Speaker 5: do this?
Speaker 3: This will be not good for America exactly.
Speaker 4: So Jesus is wanted for murder. I don't know if
Speaker 4: that was in Cuba or Miami or both, but it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Why not both?
Speaker 4: Why not both? All Judy knew was that this Cuban
Speaker 4: hunk was given her the eye. Yeah, in the moment,
Speaker 4: she liked that. She's like, oh, I like have warm
Speaker 4: for your form. So there's Judy living in Miami getting
Speaker 4: by as a sex worker. She was cruising around in
Speaker 4: this really sweet Lincoln Continental. Courtesy of her ex husband,
Speaker 4: so Avela. He was into her at the restaurant, but
Speaker 4: what really got him going was the Lincoln.
Speaker 3: What hub he liked the car?
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh no, not like the two short songs, but
Speaker 4: he So they got together and he started asking her
Speaker 4: for rides. He's like, can can you drive me too?
Speaker 3: In the back?
Speaker 4: I don't know? Well, so like he's asking for a lift,
Speaker 4: Give me a lift here, give me a lift there.
Speaker 4: And then he's like, you know, I kind of want
Speaker 4: to swing by these posh neighborhoods and look for potential
Speaker 4: burglary targets. Could you give me a ride?
Speaker 3: Help?
Speaker 4: Can I get a ride? He's like, it's like a kid.
Speaker 4: Can you drop me off like two blocks away so
Speaker 4: my friends won't see me?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: So Judy was the eyes and ears and gas money
Speaker 4: of the operation wow right, So one time Judy saw
Speaker 4: that she could also be the brains in the bron
Speaker 4: So Bundy of Avalas he went into a home to
Speaker 4: rob it. Place was super nice. He comes back to
Speaker 4: the car and all he has is a twenty five
Speaker 4: dollars radio. Yeah, He's like, I stole it from a
Speaker 4: lady friend. Catching that's all you got? She Judy's pissed.
Speaker 4: This was small time behavior. She was not small time,
Speaker 4: so she didn't have to overcome all the garbage in
Speaker 4: her life to watch a two bit thief steal a
Speaker 4: cheap radio.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Completely.
Speaker 4: She's like, I'm going in, boys, come with me. So
Speaker 4: they go back in the house and Judy gives them
Speaker 4: like this impromptu tour. She starts pointing out all the
Speaker 4: stuff that they should have taken.
Speaker 3: Deville, but it's just jewelry, jewelry.
Speaker 4: Get that crystal, give me those clothes, give that fur.
Speaker 4: So this is what she had to say about it.
Speaker 4: Quote after that, I just said the hell with it,
Speaker 4: and I went out by myself. It was thrilling, like
Speaker 4: shopping at Christmas and not paying the bills. I guess
Speaker 4: people won't want to hear that, but it's true. In
Speaker 4: five years, Judy burglarized more than five hundred home.
Speaker 3: Ten out of ten could highly recommend.
Speaker 4: So she picked her targets by looking through the parade
Speaker 4: of homes and that was the Palm Beach Post real
Speaker 4: estate section for high end property. So, like most of
Speaker 4: us commoners, we look at luxury home listings as like
Speaker 4: a daydream fantasy, she looks at it. She's like basically
Speaker 4: ordering off a menu.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally like that.
Speaker 4: And at first she was just in Dade County. But
Speaker 4: remember what I said about the money moving up the
Speaker 4: coast to the bocus. Yeah, so you know that's because
Speaker 4: of the drug deal shootouts in Miami in the eighties.
Speaker 4: Judy moved up the coast too. She headed to Palm
Speaker 4: Beach County. That's where the respectable rich money was because,
Speaker 4: like the money in Miami was more and more a
Speaker 4: product of cocaine trafficking, and breaking into a coke kingpin's
Speaker 4: house gave you an increased risk of getting.
Speaker 3: Shot a lot increase.
Speaker 4: It's better to target law abiding citizens.
Speaker 3: So I mean, they'll shoot you, but they don't have
Speaker 3: as many bullets or as.
Speaker 4: Many men as many guns. Yes, So she developed this method.
Speaker 4: She'd rent a luxury car she'd always pay cash for.
Speaker 4: She get all dressed up like a busy on the go,
Speaker 4: Boca Raton lady who lunches.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm seeing it.
Speaker 4: She wore dress, slax and high heels, smile, and she
Speaker 4: always wore a wig. She had long blonde one, she
Speaker 4: had a short one. She had one with frosted tips.
Speaker 4: And she said She even had an afro wig, which like, hello,
Speaker 4: I want to see that, Like.
Speaker 3: Are we talking afro like eighties white girl perm w.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like eighties white girl permwig
Speaker 4: or like Angela Davis afro, but either way, I'm in.
Speaker 4: So then she'd figure out which house she wanted to hit,
Speaker 4: and then she'd just go park in the driveway, just
Speaker 4: pull right up in because like a lot, and since
Speaker 4: a lot of the homes were in new developments, she
Speaker 4: could look at promotional materials that had all the available
Speaker 4: floor plans. Oh wow. Developers pretty much gave her a
Speaker 4: treasure map and they're like, here, this is where the
Speaker 4: closets are.
Speaker 3: This is a four bedroom house. You gonna have one
Speaker 3: hereupon two upstairs.
Speaker 4: So she could look at the front and realize, okay,
Speaker 4: this is what the layout is. So she'd go to
Speaker 4: the door and she'd knock, and if someone was home
Speaker 4: and came to the door, she would just apologize profusely
Speaker 4: and say, oh my god, I'm at the wrong house.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. So she's living out one of our
Speaker 4: show mottos. Act like, you know, totally confident. If no
Speaker 4: one came to the door, and that rich sound of
Speaker 4: the doorbell echoed unanswered through this enormous abode. She'd reach
Speaker 4: right into her Gucci bag. Always carried a Gucci bag,
Speaker 4: and that's where she kept her twelve inch flathead screwdriver.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: And she had figured out this way to jam the
Speaker 4: screwdriver in between the door and the jam and jimmy
Speaker 4: the lock. And one of her selection criteria for the
Speaker 4: homes was to pick ones with recessed doorways.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, she wanted to make sure you couldn't be
Speaker 4: seen from the street. Another thing she kept in that
Speaker 4: Gucci bag was a can of mace, because you never
Speaker 4: know when someone's eighties magnum pi Doberman would come bounding
Speaker 4: out at you. So anyway, once she's in, she'd go
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 3: She's still pain in the neighbor.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So she stole jewelry, she stole art, artwork, fine art, cash, clothes, housewares,
Speaker 4: you name it. And then she also stole pillowcases because
Speaker 4: that's how she transported the booty.
Speaker 3: I was just about to ask, how'd she get this out?
Speaker 4: She's just walking out to the cases with pillows.
Speaker 3: I'm just carrying this laundry out every day. Halloween for her.
Speaker 4: Everything of value want with her, which she likes, she kept.
Speaker 4: This is what Detective Bill Westman had to say about
Speaker 4: her quote. She loved to steal beautiful clothes and jewelry.
Speaker 4: She'd sell some of it, but she'd keep a lot
Speaker 4: of it too.
Speaker 3: So she said in the cotton fields, I want the diamonds.
Speaker 4: I want the diamonds. So let's take a break and
Speaker 4: think about all those Florida mansions denuded of their fine goods.
Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll take a closer look at
Speaker 4: Judy's operation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hello, Zarin Elizabeth d.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 4: So here we got Judy Amar. She is burglarizing houses
Speaker 4: during the day, part being it up at night. She'd
Speaker 4: only hit houses on weekdays in the middle of the
Speaker 4: day and then in her off time. She had a
Speaker 4: bit of a coke habit. Oh okay, you know it's eighties.
Speaker 4: In one burglary alone, she took a quarter of a
Speaker 4: million dollars worth of stuff. That's a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And do we know if that's like been like
Speaker 3: the numbers being bumped by jewelry?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's jewelry. It's yeah, okay, that's pretty it's jewelry.
Speaker 3: Is the big thing she has a good if it
Speaker 3: was art.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well quarter of a mill and she was doing
Speaker 4: multiple jobs a week, So she's racking it. The stolen
Speaker 4: stuff she didn't sell or keep for herself she sent
Speaker 4: to friends of hers in Honduras. Now I couldn't find
Speaker 4: out more about these friends in Honduras, Like were they
Speaker 4: peace Corps people? Were they supporting the contras that were
Speaker 4: operating out of Honduran bases?
Speaker 3: Were they British expats you'd stay past the whole handover?
Speaker 4: Were they helping the US overthrow the government of the
Speaker 4: Kaby Were they Sandinis?
Speaker 3: Were the Norse friends?
Speaker 4: So much of the war in Nicaragua took place in Honduras?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I know, you're just brought on.
Speaker 4: There's Judy sending off the furs and handbags that didn't
Speaker 4: suit her or fit her down to whatever. Interesting.
Speaker 3: Maybe she's done it for the people, who knows.
Speaker 4: Who knows? So she didn't just find clothes and ship
Speaker 4: into South America. She found secrets, Okay, secrets, she said.
Speaker 4: The best coke she ever scored is what she found
Speaker 4: in a doctor's house that she robbed.
Speaker 3: Oh medically pure. You hear this? Sad that so they
Speaker 3: get the good stuff.
Speaker 4: They get the good stuff.
Speaker 3: It hasn't been stepped on. It's medically pure.
Speaker 4: Okay. Once she found a photo of a homeowner posing
Speaker 4: naked over her dog, I know, Oh, but I just
Speaker 4: like I'm thinking like very eighties like she had, like like.
Speaker 5: With the dog is more like the dog laying on
Speaker 5: the carpet. Yeah, they're just using the dog as a prop.
Speaker 4: The dog's laying there like say the Sphinx, and then
Speaker 4: the ladies like standing astride the dog with like eighties
Speaker 4: patent leather high heels.
Speaker 3: The dog is a prop. The dog is not an
Speaker 3: involved the dog.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the dog is a prop. It might as well
Speaker 4: be like a statue.
Speaker 3: Okay, then that's not as bad as what I was.
Speaker 4: And at least that's what I'm telling me.
Speaker 3: I'm going with that. You can't change my mind.
Speaker 4: But she found other evidence of bad deeds and shameful
Speaker 4: things we won't go into. Did she just leave it
Speaker 4: where she found it? A La Vincenzo peppino esus flying
Speaker 4: it right? She would place the incriminating items in like
Speaker 4: an array on the bed in the master bedroom to
Speaker 4: let them know that.
Speaker 3: She knew red lipstick. Best part now you know.
Speaker 4: That I know, but like Peppino, she said, she was
Speaker 4: once interrupted while working when the homeowner came home. The
Speaker 4: man walked into the house and saw a sassy, no
Speaker 4: nonsense business woman rifling through his stuff. He was stunned.
Speaker 3: He froze, Mom, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4: She just ran off. She just sprints right by him.
Speaker 4: But this man's eyewitness encounter is what clued the cops
Speaker 4: in on the fact that the bandit of Boca del
Speaker 4: Mar was a woman, because up until then the cops
Speaker 4: all assumed it was a man.
Speaker 3: Of course, just instantly very eighty sexist.
Speaker 4: I have to say that I watched an episode of Masterminds,
Speaker 4: which is a now defunct History Channel show about criminals,
Speaker 4: and they had an episode about Old Judy. The wildest
Speaker 4: thing is sort of how chauvinistic everyone interviewed is. And
Speaker 4: this is like from two thousand and three, this was eighties.
Speaker 4: But everyone acts like it's so shocking that a woman
Speaker 4: did this. This is what detective THOMASI said, quote this
Speaker 4: completely blew me off my feet, you know, dealing with
Speaker 4: a prolific burglar who's a woman, and then asking about
Speaker 4: how she would blend in. He said, no one would
Speaker 4: give her a second thought because professional business women is
Speaker 4: a very common occurrence here in Boca del Mar and
Speaker 4: Boca Ratone. It's common to see a woman executive or
Speaker 4: a woman real estate agent dress this way.
Speaker 5: So he's both surprised that a woman could be competent
Speaker 5: as a thief, and then also it's like surprise that
Speaker 5: anyone would notice a woman.
Speaker 3: It takes stock of her life. I mean, you see
Speaker 3: women doing stuff all the time.
Speaker 4: Very common occurrence is such a weird way to put it.
Speaker 3: I mean I look around, I look up, that's a woman,
Speaker 3: and I look over into another one.
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's women all over the port, lady executive
Speaker 4: over there, pants suit, oh a normally fellas.
Speaker 3: He's not a Barbie doll. That's a real live woman.
Speaker 4: That happens a lot around these.
Speaker 3: Especially South Florida. If you've not been here.
Speaker 4: We have women, we do and they have jobs, have
Speaker 4: lady women.
Speaker 5: They're out in the daytime doing stuff sometimes. So anyway,
Speaker 5: this is amazing. Two thousand and three, two thousand and.
Speaker 4: Three, So the dude who interrupted her theft wouldn't be
Speaker 4: the last one to do that. A woman named Leslie
Speaker 4: Near in Bocca del Mar heard something one day while
Speaker 4: at home, which I just thought, it's Boca.
Speaker 3: Raton, right, that's how they pronounce it.
Speaker 4: I just know that, like people in Boca are going
Speaker 4: to start messaging me, like, right.
Speaker 3: Guess what it's not.
Speaker 5: Like if you go to Atlanta, it's Ponce. It's not
Speaker 5: Ponce de Leon, it's de Leon. Right in South they
Speaker 5: often take the Spanish out of the Spanish.
Speaker 4: Or Boca. For those in the now, del Mar, we'll
Speaker 4: just call Boca, who cover it all. So Leslie near
Speaker 4: she lives in Boca del Mar.
Speaker 3: I call it mouse mouth mousemouth.
Speaker 4: She sorry she heard something well one day when she
Speaker 4: was at home, I suppose it wasn't a doorbell, since
Speaker 4: the part that she heard was Judy's strong arming her
Speaker 4: way into the house with her foot long screwdriver. So
Speaker 4: she hear's that. Leslie looks out of her peep hole
Speaker 4: to see what's making all the noise, and she sees
Speaker 4: a lady up against her door trying to jimmy it open.
Speaker 4: So Leslie flings open the front door and yells, what
Speaker 4: are you doing? That's brave, And Judy looks up at
Speaker 4: her and goes, I'm just leaving, and then she legs
Speaker 4: it to her car just leaving. Don't worry about me.
Speaker 3: I wasn't here, I was never here.
Speaker 4: Don't wry about it. Then, Nancy Alexander of Boca came
Speaker 4: home one day to find a really sweet Lincoln Continental
Speaker 4: parked in her driveway and nance she's like a social
Speaker 4: butterfly and figured it was just like a pal who
Speaker 4: stopped by to say hello.
Speaker 3: Maybe is in town?
Speaker 4: Perhaps so like Seeing as her guests just love to
Speaker 4: lounge on the lunai and share her neighborhood gossip, she
Speaker 4: decided to just head directly to the backyard by the
Speaker 4: pool because she figured that's where they are hanging out.
Speaker 3: She make drinks and walk out.
Speaker 4: She didn't see her friends from tennis when she looked
Speaker 4: out there. Instead, it was Judy, and she had a
Speaker 4: pillowcase stuffed with Nancy's belongings, including her favorite leather boots.
Speaker 3: Zaren Santa Claus.
Speaker 4: It totally is so she's got her like heart Barracuda
Speaker 4: leather boots that she's running out with. Nancy is livid
Speaker 4: and instinct just takes over. She pounced and attacked Judy.
Speaker 5: She cleared that grass so fast wrapped her up like
Speaker 5: a football player.
Speaker 4: This is what Nancy Alexandra had to say. I don't
Speaker 4: know why I jumped on her. Maybe it was because
Speaker 4: she was a woman and I thought I could stop her.
Speaker 4: I quickly realized I was in trouble because check it.
Speaker 3: Out, I can take her. She's a woman.
Speaker 4: Judy had a blower in her Gucci bag. So Judy
Speaker 4: draws a gun on nance. Nancy puts her hands up
Speaker 4: and slowly starts walking backwards, like, oh oh, take the boots.
Speaker 3: Oh long, I can't handle a woman with a gun.
Speaker 4: Judy just sprints off. Nancy scurries over to peek at
Speaker 4: her driveway and she gets the license plate number. So,
Speaker 4: thanks to Nancy Alexander's quick thinking, Judy was caught. She
Speaker 4: gets charged with arm burglary, pleads guilty. She bonded out,
Speaker 4: but then she skipped bail and she was on the
Speaker 4: run for nearly three years. Detective TOMASI dog on a bone.
Speaker 4: I have to look through all these lady executives and
Speaker 4: figure out which one of them is the bandit of
Speaker 4: Boca del Mark.
Speaker 3: There's tons of them here, so many.
Speaker 4: Bandits of Bocodela mar running around. This is the prosecutor,
Speaker 4: Lynne Baldwin later said, quote, Heaven help whoever he goes
Speaker 4: after Ron never gave up. It's like because in his
Speaker 4: off hours he's hanging out in his den trying to
Speaker 4: get leads, and he reached out to her hometown in Arkansas.
Speaker 3: Why is it so personal for him?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 4: The trauma is Aaron the trauma people felt. So Judy
Speaker 4: found out that Tamasi had contacted her son, and she
Speaker 4: was pissed.
Speaker 3: She was so mad.
Speaker 4: She called Tamasi well out on the run and told
Speaker 4: him to leave her family out of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel STIs Tamasi was in deep though, so deep
Speaker 4: that the stress from this case contributed to a heart
Speaker 4: attack that he had.
Speaker 3: Oh damn.
Speaker 4: So he's like Claid, Oh God, Judy, I.
Speaker 3: Thought you'd can go the other way, like he started
Speaker 3: like dating her sister.
Speaker 4: He got indeed, Yeah, I wish no so like he
Speaker 4: has a heart attack. It's the summer of nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 4: Judy almost got caught. She wasn't off in Honduras or
Speaker 4: hiding out in the Grand Canyon or something. She was
Speaker 4: on the twenty two thousand block of Iron Wedge Drive
Speaker 4: in Boca Ratan, So she's still there. A sheriff's deputy
Speaker 4: happened to be driving by when he saw something suspicious
Speaker 4: and there was a woman who looked like Judy. He
Speaker 4: was coming out of a house. Olgal knew she'd been made,
Speaker 4: so she raced off to her rented Mercedes. Backup was
Speaker 4: still on the way, So Judy she dug around in
Speaker 4: the back seat and she grabbed a black wig and
Speaker 4: she swapped it for the one she was wearing, and
Speaker 4: then drove right through the perimeter established by the cops
Speaker 4: to catch her.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, because.
Speaker 4: She had a different wig on. She waves at the
Speaker 4: deputy manning the road block, and then just breezed on by.
Speaker 5: I can see why tomasis upset about women. If they're
Speaker 5: just all these cops are fooled by. Well, that's what
Speaker 5: it couldn't be.
Speaker 4: And it's black hair, Lady executive, black hair. I'm looking
Speaker 4: for the blonde.
Speaker 3: I mean the lady executive that we have right here
Speaker 3: the picture of she's a blonde. So you see a
Speaker 3: blonde lady.
Speaker 4: She had a blonde mini afro, and that's not hers.
Speaker 3: She looks like she may sell your real estate.
Speaker 4: You tell us so this is what Judy said. I
Speaker 4: told them not to charge me with that one or
Speaker 4: they'd look stupid.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about.
Speaker 4: It, well, Detective Ron Tommasi, he eventually caught her.
Speaker 3: Okay, but dog on a bone, you say.
Speaker 4: When he finally caught her, he said, quote, I've never
Speaker 4: chased anyone that was so good, and a woman at
Speaker 4: that again, kidding me again, a lady burglar. I knew
Speaker 4: I can, like he's doing lady criming.
Speaker 5: You know how you always wonder like, oh, who do
Speaker 5: they make these products just for men? For I think
Speaker 5: we have found it, Detective to I just need a soap,
Speaker 5: but one for man.
Speaker 3: I can't have a soap for the lady.
Speaker 4: Want lady soap anywhere near a man's right? So how
Speaker 4: did he get? A drug dealer tipped him off to
Speaker 4: where he could.
Speaker 3: Find Judy drug He knows drug dealers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, no lady drug dealer.
Speaker 3: I know one thing about this drug dealer. Drug dealer.
Speaker 3: It ain't no female drug dealer.
Speaker 4: Zarin, close your eye, Oh no, you snucking up.
Speaker 3: I'll be glad to I.
Speaker 4: Want you to picture. It's June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4: You're a housekeeper at the Ocean Gate Motel in Surfside, Florida.
Speaker 4: It's a shabby art deco remnant of a grander time.
Speaker 4: By the time I'm telling you this story, it's no
Speaker 4: longer there. It almost looks like an ocean liner. Three
Speaker 4: stories with an open air breezeway down the middle. The
Speaker 4: rooms all open out to the center grassy strip. Big
Speaker 4: sloping stairways take guests down to the beach behind the hotel.
Speaker 4: You can only imagine what it looked like back in
Speaker 4: the fifties. So glamorous, but it's nineteen eighty seven and
Speaker 4: it seemed better days. You've just finished cleaning Room one
Speaker 4: oh eight. You're taking a break to eat a granola
Speaker 4: bar in the parking lot. The lady in room one
Speaker 4: oh eight has been there for a couple months now.
Speaker 4: She always has cool stuff. She brings bags and bags
Speaker 4: of stuff into her room every few days. She told
Speaker 4: you and one of the other cleaners that she goes
Speaker 4: to estate sales and picks up what she thinks is interesting,
Speaker 4: then she turns around and sells it at second Ham
Speaker 4: shops and such. You did notice a little bag of
Speaker 4: cocaine in the drawer of her nightstand, but you don't judge.
Speaker 4: It's Miami, not surprising. She seems nice enough, always cheerful
Speaker 4: and polite, not like the guy in Room two fourteen.
Speaker 4: His wife kicked him out of their house a few
Speaker 4: weeks ago. All he does is sit in the room moping,
Speaker 4: and every time you go to clean there's a new
Speaker 4: tower of pizza boxes. It's ten am. You watch the
Speaker 4: cars and trucks speedby on Collins Avenue. You can hear
Speaker 4: the lapping of the waves behind the building, the chatter
Speaker 4: of the beach tourists out for the day, starting to
Speaker 4: get a little crowded, but that's the season. You have
Speaker 4: ten more rooms to go and then you're done for
Speaker 4: the day. As you look at the corner of the
Speaker 4: parking lot, you see a van. It's marked plumbing. You
Speaker 4: hadn't heard that there are any plumbing issues. You wonder
Speaker 4: if it's someone sleeping in their van to cut costs
Speaker 4: on a vacation, or maybe it's a man in the
Speaker 4: same situation as the poor guy in Room till fourteen.
Speaker 4: Although you're pretty sure his wife did the right thing
Speaker 4: kicking him out. You peer at the man in the
Speaker 4: driver's seat. He has a pretty obvious fake mustache on
Speaker 4: and maybe a hearing aid. Just then, you hear the
Speaker 4: roar of a Mercedes. It's Room one o eight. She
Speaker 4: pulls into the parking lot and waves to you. You
Speaker 4: wave back while biting into your crumbly granolivar. She gets
Speaker 4: a spot and lifts a bunch of bags from her trunk.
Speaker 4: She disappears behind the front doors of the motel, struggling
Speaker 4: with her bags. You hear footsteps on the pavement behind you.
Speaker 4: Dozens of Sheriff's deputies come jogging past you, right to
Speaker 4: the motel. You watch as they all shuffle in. You
Speaker 4: look up and you notice snipers stationed on the roof
Speaker 4: of the building next door. You can see down the
Speaker 4: breezeway that the cops are headed to Room one o eight.
Speaker 4: The doors open and you watch as they shout and
Speaker 4: enter the room, guns drawn. Moments later, you see the
Speaker 4: lady from Room one o eight. She's sprinting as fast
Speaker 4: as she can from the back alley of the motel,
Speaker 4: headed to her car in the park lot. You're secretly
Speaker 4: rooting for her whatever she did. Just then, the driver
Speaker 4: the plumbing van springs out and tackles that nice lady
Speaker 4: in room from Room one O eight smack on the
Speaker 4: pavement at the age of forty, at ten am in
Speaker 4: a motel parking lot, Judy was finally caught.
Speaker 3: Oh damn, I gotta see it.
Speaker 4: You got to see it. The cops keep you there
Speaker 4: for questioning, ask you about the forty five thousand dollars
Speaker 4: worth of clothes, jewelry, figurines, cocaine, and six hundred and
Speaker 4: ninety dollars in cash in the room. You don't know anything,
Speaker 4: you tell them. Soon the news cameras and reporters show up.
Speaker 4: You give one statement, but you ask to remain anonymous. Quote.
Speaker 4: Everyone here liked her. She had a kind of jolly
Speaker 4: personality where you couldn't help but like her. She was
Speaker 4: so nice you would want her for a neighbor. And
Speaker 4: with that you headed home. Let's take a break. When
Speaker 4: we come back, we'll see what this next chapter held
Speaker 4: for Judy.
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, seven Clyde.
Speaker 4: When we left off, Yeah, Judy Amar had been captured
Speaker 4: at the Ocean Gate motel.
Speaker 3: I was there. I saw it all. You were totally
Speaker 3: asked your questions. I can tell you everything.
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, not only did she have all the burglary charges,
Speaker 8: but she still had to be sentenced in Dade County
Speaker 8: for possession of a gram of cocaine in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 3: Did the cops lay them out in her place for her,
Speaker 3: just like on like.
Speaker 5: An array, Like here you go, here's all your charges.
Speaker 4: Well, she didn't just captivate the motel staff, you and
Speaker 4: all your coworkers. Tracy Cohane, a reporter for the Washington Post,
Speaker 4: wrote that Judy quote enchanted the cops, fascinated the prosecutor,
Speaker 4: and charmed the judge. Prosecutor Lynn Baldman, I'd talked about
Speaker 4: her earlier. This is how she described Judy. Very beautiful,
Speaker 4: charming and intelligent for a lady for well, and like
Speaker 4: that was the compliment that she so badly wanted in Arkansas,
Speaker 4: but she never got it. So now she's getting from
Speaker 4: the day and a lady a lady. Well here's the
Speaker 4: detective thumosity. Well, he said, great, great personality, razor sharp mind.
Speaker 4: So he comes very close to the to the descriptor.
Speaker 4: That irritates me so much is when men describe women
Speaker 4: as whip smart, because they never describe other men as
Speaker 4: whip smart.
Speaker 3: No, you will never made a whip smart man.
Speaker 4: No, it's irritating, like it's like lady smart. So Judy,
Speaker 4: she had no regrets and she had no apologies either.
Speaker 4: She went so far as to accuse her victims of
Speaker 4: exaggerating their insurance claims, and she said, She's like, if
Speaker 4: they exaggerated, I am happy to testify against them. And
Speaker 4: then here's the quote that I knew you would love
Speaker 4: when I was transcribing this quote. I stole illegally. They
Speaker 4: stole legally. It's the difference. Yeah, she's another one of
Speaker 4: our folk hero Robin hood thieves.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, some still with a gun, some still with
Speaker 5: a Pen's to do a lot more with a pen.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 4: The Sheriff's Department, ever captivated by her, asked her to
Speaker 4: help film a video for them. It was their star
Speaker 4: search audition tape Get Out. No, I'm just kidding, trying
Speaker 4: to get Ed McMahon on board. And look what we
Speaker 4: got talent down here, Judy. They have like a boy
Speaker 4: dance routine. No, they wanted her to help them put
Speaker 4: together a video explaining how criminals think and how they
Speaker 4: do the actual work of the robbery. And that meant
Speaker 4: that she would explain how she picked houses and how
Speaker 4: she jimmied open doors.
Speaker 3: She was super into this a video for cops or
Speaker 3: for people who live in miamis.
Speaker 4: For cops wondering, it's like a peek into the mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they wanted training videos well, and.
Speaker 4: The video wound up being used not just locally but national.
Speaker 3: Sure, it's like profile her type stuff where they're like,
Speaker 3: here's how they think.
Speaker 4: Well, this is what detect of lou Sessa said quote.
Speaker 4: She'll be able to give us some information on what
Speaker 4: to look for. It's always good to look at it
Speaker 4: from both sides of the fence. It will school our
Speaker 4: officers and patrol techniques and school us in teaching the
Speaker 4: general public on crime prevention. And they get to hang
Speaker 4: out with Judy, the lady burglar.
Speaker 3: Yeah she's a woman at that could.
Speaker 4: You believe it? So, her fingerprints were found at three
Speaker 4: Burgley crime scenes, and after her arrest, she not only
Speaker 4: agreed to help with the training video, but also agreed
Speaker 4: to help the police solve other cases. So the Delray
Speaker 4: Beach police drove her around town and she'd point out
Speaker 4: the houses that she robbed, right, and then she'd tell
Speaker 4: them exactly, you know, how she did it, all the details.
Speaker 4: So she helped the cops clear twenty one cases, all
Speaker 4: with the promise that she wouldn't be charged for those
Speaker 4: twenty one cases, just so they could be like, okay,
Speaker 4: we figured it out, get it off the books.
Speaker 5: So she's like, look, i'll help you close your books
Speaker 5: and you'll have a great closure rape and it'll be
Speaker 5: like you don't get a charge.
Speaker 4: Out of this, yeah, because they've already charged.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well that's again.
Speaker 4: This is how Sergeant Ross lookta, this is how he
Speaker 4: explained it. That was part of the deal in bringing
Speaker 4: her here. We didn't have anything to link her to
Speaker 4: those cases, but we did have her fingerprints in the
Speaker 4: three burglaries. So yeah, she's just closing them. And when
Speaker 4: asked about life as a fugitive, Judy said, it wasn't
Speaker 4: that hard. Most of the cops weren't that smart. She
Speaker 4: always gets a bless I love that. So Tamasi, though
Speaker 4: he had a better opinion.
Speaker 3: Of Jude, she should have said something like they're not
Speaker 3: too smart, I mean for men. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yes, she missed her opportunity. So this is what Tamasi said. Quote.
Speaker 4: She was very candid. The woman holds no animosity toward me.
Speaker 4: She said she had a job to do, and I
Speaker 4: had a job to do. She said, we got her
Speaker 4: fair and square.
Speaker 3: You still got the woman bit in there a little bit.
Speaker 3: He cannot let that go.
Speaker 4: Yeah. On the day of her sentencing, the courtroom was
Speaker 4: a buzz Okay, it was more than that was like festive.
Speaker 4: This was the end of an era for a local legend.
Speaker 3: Oh I bet. Yeah. That's like they're like like fun
Speaker 3: robin Hood.
Speaker 4: Really Yeah. She pled guilty to thirty charges, right, and
Speaker 4: she got ten years in prison for her burglaries and
Speaker 4: three years for having a gun during that one burglary
Speaker 4: where she pulled it out with lady. She confessed to
Speaker 4: over five hundred burglaries whoa, and she offered to return
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of stolen items
Speaker 4: all right. In July of eighty seven, about one hundred
Speaker 4: people showed up at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's office.
Speaker 4: They were there to reclaim property that they believe Judy stole.
Speaker 4: So Detective Sessa said, quote, she doesn't want any of
Speaker 4: these cases to resurface after she is sentenced. She could
Speaker 4: be recharged. She wants to do her time and get
Speaker 4: out and hopefully straighten up her life. She's never done
Speaker 4: any hard time before, so this hopefully will straighten her out.
Speaker 4: That's so smart. Just get it all, wipe the slate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have.
Speaker 4: Some sense of immunity going on, and well you know
Speaker 4: that everyone loves you like they're treating me really well,
Speaker 4: it's not lego. So during the sentencing, Judy like smiles
Speaker 4: too much.
Speaker 3: Didn't have somebody above her, or she could have flipped on.
Speaker 3: She could have walked with no charges.
Speaker 4: She had no one above her.
Speaker 5: I know, that's the only thing is this lady. She
Speaker 5: was on her own, which was a good move at
Speaker 5: the time she was. But if she had that, I
Speaker 5: bet she could have walked away totally.
Speaker 4: C probably, but then that person would come after her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know she could manage it well.
Speaker 4: So Judy during the sentencing, she's just cutting up with
Speaker 4: the circuit Judge Tom Johnson. I mean they're just going
Speaker 4: back and forth. And he said, come on, Judy, the
Speaker 4: photographers want you to pose, because the cameras were all
Speaker 4: clicking away, and then he asked Judy if she had
Speaker 4: finished up the training video for the Sheriff's office, and
Speaker 4: Judy said quote, yes, but I want to do it over.
Speaker 4: My eye was swollen and I didn't take a good picture.
Speaker 4: And so then Johnson says, did they let you dress up?
Speaker 4: And Judy's like, yeah they did.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, Judy, you could never take a bad picture.
Speaker 4: So that Johnson congratulates Tomasi for his tenacity, and then
Speaker 4: he asked them, quote, you gotta let Judy do the
Speaker 4: film again with more makeup. It's ridiculous though, And then
Speaker 4: as Judy's led away to begin her sentence, she tells
Speaker 4: reporters that I feel fantastic. Yes, she feels great.
Speaker 3: The Miami jumping out of all this courtroom scenes.
Speaker 4: So Timasi does the math. He calculated up what Judy
Speaker 4: stole and he estimated it at three to six million dollars.
Speaker 5: I have to do, yeah, five hundred robberies in that area,
Speaker 5: mostly hitting nice places. And she was upset about the
Speaker 5: guy who told the cheap radio. So we know she's
Speaker 5: not coming out with like totally anything little.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just not small time. Tamasi said, quote, I
Speaker 4: waited a long time for this. A case like this
Speaker 4: might come along once in an officer's career.
Speaker 3: And a woman at that and a woman at that.
Speaker 4: But then look what I talked about at the top
Speaker 4: of the episode. He had another lady burglar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Judy's mom back in Arkansas said quote, she changed
Speaker 4: when she left here. She sure did. I guess citified
Speaker 4: is what you'd call itified. Judy is one of a kind.
Speaker 4: I guess that's something to be thankful for. Wow, cityfied,
Speaker 4: I see where she gets the disc is. Judy got
Speaker 4: out of jail in nineteen ninety. She only did three
Speaker 4: years of the thirteen year sentence.
Speaker 3: It was a non violent crime.
Speaker 4: You where is she now?
Speaker 3: Well, where is she now?
Speaker 4: There's a bit now you tell me?
Speaker 3: Thank you for not telling me yet.
Speaker 4: As of last reporting, she's a home security consultant. So
Speaker 4: she's she's a white.
Speaker 3: Hat, white hat hacker burger okay.
Speaker 4: I tried to find more follow up information on her
Speaker 4: and I could. I tracked down her mother's obituary, okay,
Speaker 4: which put Judy still alive in twenty fifteen, but going
Speaker 4: by a different last name. So wherever she is, I
Speaker 4: wish her godspeed, godspeed bandit of Boca del Mar. What's
Speaker 4: your ridiculous takeaway?
Speaker 3: Florida? Pretty much Florida.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know all honesty. Like I think I've
Speaker 5: said this before. I have family in Florida. I used
Speaker 5: to go there a lot when I was raised in Georgia.
Speaker 5: It's somewhere I feel very comfortable. And at no point
Speaker 5: do I look down on Florida. So I'm not one
Speaker 5: of these people who's making fun of or wagging my
Speaker 5: finger at Florida. I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with your
Speaker 5: Florida and I'm saying it straight to your face. At
Speaker 5: the same time, this play is wild. So the Florida
Speaker 5: of it all like where you have like these old
Speaker 5: people meeting up with all these like you know, recent
Speaker 5: immigrants happy to like make it to America and become
Speaker 5: really proud Americans. And then you have all these criminals
Speaker 5: that are going this gives me a great place to
Speaker 5: hide out. It's just amazing energy, just a chaos and
Speaker 5: like they talk about, oh it's a melting pot, that's
Speaker 5: where the melting pot bubbles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And what I like about Florida is that lady
Speaker 4: executives are not an anomaly. You actually see them walking
Speaker 4: around in the wild all the time.
Speaker 3: Just there's so many you lose count.
Speaker 5: You cannot count them, Elizabeth, it's just lady executive four
Speaker 5: or five, real litter seventeen.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have enough fingers for this.
Speaker 4: And if you can believe it, I mean they're they're
Speaker 4: driving cars.
Speaker 3: Yes, I saw one using money.
Speaker 4: It's crazy money.
Speaker 3: Elizabeth, a lady professional and her husband wasn't even there.
Speaker 4: I know, but you know what, that's it's one of
Speaker 4: those special things about us.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, Miami is a really progressive place with
Speaker 3: the ladies, with.
Speaker 4: The lady workers. That's us.
Speaker 3: That's why I got very Ridiculously.
Speaker 4: It's wonderful. You can find us online at Ridiculous Crime
Speaker 4: dot com. Yeah, it's amazing, Like it's such a well
Speaker 4: designed website. It's it's really I mean, we have technology
Speaker 4: that we're using in that that other people don't have.
Speaker 5: We had chat GBT five look at at GBT. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's it's it's the one that's on drugs. It's chat
Speaker 5: GBT and it's looks. It's like, oh man, I'm into
Speaker 5: this stuff. This is this is I love this website.
Speaker 4: Well, the government was like, how did you design this?
Speaker 4: And we were like, you know what, kick, we're not telling.
Speaker 5: You so either Leonardo DiCaprio or Leonardo da Vinci did it,
Speaker 5: but somebody cool because this is amazing art.
Speaker 4: Leo dicapsis. There's T shirts I think on there, mugs.
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