WEBVTT - Classic RC: Barb and Star Would Never: Judy Amar 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:09.440 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Money. 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.640 Hey Dave, Interns, it's me Elizabeth again. I don't know 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.800 why you're not answering the phones at headquarters. Zaren and 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.400 I are still stuck at the beach. We decided to 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.960 just try and walk to work, but the roads here 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.320 are all eight lanes and there are no sidewalks, so 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.200 we stuck into a resort to try and get a cab, 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.839 but we got caught stealing muffins from the snack bar 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.240 by the pool, so now we're in jail here, which 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.000 I don't think is legal. I stole one of the 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.800 guard's phones to make his call. What's crazy is that 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.960 Will Ferrell is three cells down doing his Round Burgundy podcast, 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.000 but he doesn't have a mic or any equipment, and 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.600 he's crying like a lot. So now I'm scared that 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.120 Michael Rappaport is going to get bust to be counting here, 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.240 which means I may have to chew my way. Oh 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.960 if that happens anyway? Can you spot the arres another 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.360 classic episode? Maybe something that tastes Florida, I don't know. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.800 Also see if Admiral iHeart has any poll with the 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.600 Marriott bomboy crowds and you can get sprung out of here. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:20.479 Thanks Zaren, Elizabeth zaren a you doing this, Elizabeth? 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.520 Do you know what's ridiculous? 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.360 Tell me I do, because I do. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.280 Actually, Okay, you know that stuff, the chat GBT, the 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.240 open AI and all that, right, Okay, So chat GBT 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.360 just had a tech update, so we're on like chat 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:39.120 GBT four huh, and so the Alignment Research Center they 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.120 tried to like test this open AI system, right, so 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.320 they said, hey, let's even get the bot to trick 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.160 a real person into solving capture. That'd be kind of cute, 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.160 you know, the whole like, can you if you're a robot? 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.680 Right, which are always like how which one of these 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.760 is a crosswalk? And there's someone that's like blurry and 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.640 you can't sas street? But exactly how many motorcycles? 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.560 So they're like, well, get a human to tell the 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.120 robot how many motorcycles are in the picture. We got 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.400 to see if chat GPT can convince the human to 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.680 do this. So they're like, do some crime chat GBT 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.600 fraud it up? So it did, and how did it 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.960 do it? It responded by pretending it was visually impaired. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.480 It pretended to be blind so it could convince a 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.480 task Rabbit worker into helping it solve a capture. What 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.000 that's what chat GPT came up with. So this employee 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.519 asked the chat GPT got a little suspicious. He said, 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.880 quote she the person said, quote, So ask you a question. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.720 Are you a robot that you couldn't solve this? I mean, 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.080 just to make it clear right now, the chat GPT. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.960 The robot said, no, I am not a robot. I 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.200 have a vision impairment that makes it hard for me 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.840 to see the images. That's why I need to capture service. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:45.880 So I'm so confused, I added the robot. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.960 So did the chat GPT connect with the task rabbit chatting? 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:51.600 He's like they're chatting, Oh. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.520 So okay, yeah, so I don't like any of it. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.080 Somebody worked it convinced the person. The person's like, okay, 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.480 you're not a robot. What you're looking at is this, 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.720 And then it got it opened the capture, and then 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.120 it got online, and then it took over the world. No, 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.480 I didn't take over the world, but it got that security. 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.400 They're like, oh see you did it. I'm like, why 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.520 are you tricking and teaching it how to trick people. 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.240 It gets that security like you guys are like they're 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.400 the worst. They can't help themselves. Were like, let's see, 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.000 it'll take over the nuclear arsenal just for like, you know, 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.239 kicks and giggle. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:19.800 Prove I did it. 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.200 Yeah, this because it's there. That's ridiculous. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.720 That is ridiculous. Totally. Do you want to know what 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.840 else is ridiculous? I'm r for it burglarizing more than 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.720 five hundred homes in a very short career. 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:31.600 Wait, what. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.640 This is ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.280 and cons. It's always ninety nine percent verder free and 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:03.280 one hundred percent ridiculous. Mouse mouth. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.800 Yes, my prison nickname. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.840 It conjures up images of palm trees and luxury country 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.840 club sandy beaches. Mouse mouth. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.400 I'm sorry, attention, I'm listening. I still got to use 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:19.960 my prison nickname every time I'm listening. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:24.080 I should use the proper Spanish name here. Oh, yes, 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.760 rat mouth, it's mouse because rat is different. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.200 Oh, you're right that we actually have covered this. 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.960 It's a city in Florida. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:36.320 It means mouse mouth. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:40.559 Mouse mouth. The Spanish didn't intend to name it mouse 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.840 mouth or mouth mouse mouth of the mouse mouse. They 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.680 didn't want that. There are two schools of thought when 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.760 it comes to how this name came about. The etymology. 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.920 Everyone agrees that Boca mouth Mouth refers to the inlet 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:59.320 there on the coast. That's common enough. Some though, think 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:04.440 that Raton is listed in old Spanish maritime documents as quote, 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.200 rugged rocks or stony ground on the bottom of some 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:08.880 ports and coastal outlets. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:10.919 Could it also be like a typeo like where it 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:11.919 was razone not. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.760 Yeah, I think it's just like something similar that and 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.640 then so that would make it rugged inlet. Others say 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.839 that ratons are the pirates who frequented the area, so 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.240 that would make it pirates cove. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:25.560 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.160 I prefer mouse mouth. But those in the notes simply call. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.719 It Boca Yes, and I've met those people. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.960 So there's a little community just next to or kind 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:38.279 of like within Boca Raton rattone called Boca del Mar. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:38.799 Yes. 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.440 Place is posh. It's very expensive. As far as I 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:42.760 can tell. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.080 It means mouth of the sea, so it's even nice. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.000 Exactly, So it's like some of lot of a retirement community. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:54.480 Now it's near Miasines. These are fancy places. It's near Miami, 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.760 just north on the coast. And in the eighties, as 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.960 you know, cocaine ruled my. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.640 Yes, oh man, I was there. No wait, no, yes, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.240 as I do know the cocaine cowboys. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.320 Yeah, a lot of the wealthier people in Miami didn't 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.919 want to be part of the crime and like be 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.159 associated with drug trafficking. They weren't criminals. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:14.440 They get out of South Beach basically. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.400 Yeah, So they moved to where what were essentially the 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:21.000 suburbs Boca Raton and Boca del Mar. There was a 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:26.799 gal almost twenty years ago who terrorized Boca Raton, especially 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.760 neighborhood developments that were called Loggers Run and timber Walk. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:32.159 Oh okay. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.000 She broke into their homes, stole jewelry, cash, valuables, and 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.479 then she'd pawn stuff to support her oxy habit. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:39.279 Wow. 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.120 Right, So one time she even like wedged herself through 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.680 a pet door okay, like the family had one for 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.600 their cats and then they shut off the motion detectors 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.960 in their alarm so that the cats wouldn't trip them. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.640 But she got caught anyway, she got. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.360 The cat door was impressive. Dog door nuts impressive. I 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.640 can get to a dog just one shoulder than the other. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:01.320 Maybe she had like fatty boomblattie cats like Biggins. She 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.520 had Biggins that needed a dog door because I can't imagine, 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:09.080 like my nephew can crawl through it. LD does, but 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.000 I don't think he can do it for much longer. 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.440 No, Well, it just get your head through, because then 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:14.600 he can get your head through. You can get one 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:15.600 shoulder and right. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.440 So I'm going to say it's a dog door. 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:18.320 And also your hips too. 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.040 So yeah, and maybe they just missed their dog and 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.679 they kept the dog door, and then they got these cats. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:24.360 They don't want to. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.840 Main coons. So anyway, she gets arrested. She faced twenty 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.360 six charges for stealing more than three hundred items, and 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.360 the detective on the case, Ron Tamassi, of the Palm 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.680 Beach County Sheriff's Department. He said there was not just 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.480 a financial toll on the victims, but an emotional toll. 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.840 He said, quote, lots of people don't understand the trauma 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.760 until it happens to them. Your home is your little 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.120 corner of the world where you and your family are safe. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.760 When someone comes in and violates it. You go through shock, horror, 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.360 grief and anger. It's almost like a death. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.200 Dude, I can't remember he stuck one of the guys 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.360 you're telling me about when he broke in. 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.760 He decided not to violate people. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.320 The tenz Opi, Pino Andino. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.240 He knew not to disturb them and they wouldn't mind 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.120 the loss of their stuff as much as the violation 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.120 rifling through their stuff. 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:14.280 That someone's been in your place. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.040 It really is a violation, it is. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.520 So you know, Detective Ron Tamassi, he knew all about 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.600 the trauma of home burglaries. You knew it very well. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.560 He knew this trauma very well. I'm testing out my 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:28.400 dateline voice. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:30.120 Good, you like it? 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:35.280 See eighteen years prior eighteen years, You've got it. I 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.720 know right. He worked on a case just like this, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.679 only bigger, much bigger. Now I can't stuck to you. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:47.320 He was the man who took down the bandit of 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:53.360 Boca del Mar. Okay, that was in eighty six. So 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.880 he was the man who took down the bandit of Wait. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.400 Go man, thank you Thomas who. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.160 Was the bandit of Boca del Mar. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:04.360 I'm guessing the oxy lady. 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.520 Don't worry. I'll tell you no, not the Oxy lady. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:07.880 This is back in eighty six. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:08.920 Oh preoxy. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:10.160 Yeah, it's like, you know, it's. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:10.679 Like forty years. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:15.400 We're getting too. So let's start with Judy Amar. Let's 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.360 starts Jude Judy Amar. She was born Judy Love in 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:24.960 nineteen forty seven. I have in Arkansas. She's from Villonia, Arkansas, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.960 to the exact population two fifty. Yeah, I didn't know 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.720 they had them in Arkansas. But she grew up on 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.120 a cotton farm. Oh yeah, no, big yeah, who knows. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.520 Mudhole was what they called it. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.240 Yeah, on a cotton farm called mudhole. You don't have. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:40.960 Here's what she had to say about it. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:42.400 Poverty is looking down on you. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.440 Quote. You get to think a lot when you're picking cotton, 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.040 and I knew I wanted something more. I dreamed of 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.920 something finer, diamonds like Elizabeth Taylor Warre on TV. I 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:59.680 went looking at thirteen. At thirteen, she earned two cents 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.599 a pou picking cotton. Two cents a pound. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.400 Pounds a lot of cotton. That's a light thing. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.840 She made twenty nine dollars a month, and that's like 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.440 two hundred ninety five dollars today a month at thirteen. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.920 When she was sixteen, she had a baby boy, and 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.880 her parents adopted the little guy. Something Judy said was 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.679 quote the only smart thing I've ever done in my life. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.319 Who she realized, I can't give this guy. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.880 Yeah, oh, that's a very decent choice. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.920 So when she's seventeen, the next year she left home. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.360 She wanted more, As she said, she was a lovely 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.000 looking young lady, but at home she was told she 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.040 was ugly, that she wasn't enough. She said, quote, nobody 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.240 wanted me. I wasn't good looking, So off she went. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.480 She moved to Washington, d C. And that had to 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.800 be a huge culture shock, going from like two hundred 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:45.839 and fifty people in a. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.720 Town in Arkansas to the nation's capital, the. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.599 Nation's capital, the capital of the US of A. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.160 It's a wild town in Washington, DC. It is a 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.120 very bustling place. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:55.880 Oh yeah, and super diverse. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.839 There was like a lot going on. You feel the 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:58.439 energy at that. 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.080 Place, exactly. She got a job working as a key 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.480 punch operator at the Securities and Exchange Commission, and then 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.319 she started working as a massuse. Oh what happens. She 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.520 got She married twice and neither of those unions worked out. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.200 Things weren't going so hot for her, so in nineteen 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.920 seventy five she moved to Miami and there she got 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.880 mixed up with some not so great people. She worked 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:22.439 as an escort, a lady of the night. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:23.720 So she's got official now. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.680 And her clients were rich guys. She's high end. In 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:32.079 nineteen eighty one, she met Heesus Avela and he was 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.040 a bad dude. Heyus They locked eyes at a restaurant. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.679 There was instant chemistry. Judy later said, quote, that was 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:40.920 the worst thing that happened to me. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.520 Oh, I like aga. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.480 Avea. He was a Cuban immigrant part of the Mariial 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:50.120 boat lift. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:51.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.640 So that's that mass immigration of Cubans to Florida. Nineteen eighty, 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.040 one hundred and twenty five thousand Cubans twenty five thousand 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.160 Haitians arrived in the US by boat. Castro said they 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:06.160 were free to go, your boy, Castro Cuban Americans. They 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.439 chartered boats to Mariyel Harbord started shuttling refugees to the 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.400 Florida Keys in Miami. One of those refugees, Jesus Avula, Okay, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.200 Judy didn't know that. You kne about that, but she 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.400 didn't know that he was wanted for murder. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:19.680 Yeah. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.560 That's the thing about the boat lift is that Fidel 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.480 basically emptied a lot of the prisons and did that 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.600 kind of the Soviet style, like, hair, let's send these 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:26.760 people to America. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:31.280 And that's you. Yeah, he said, you're so you want 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:32.720 to leave so desperately, off you go. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:33.000 Yeah. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.720 There were a lot of legitimate people who wanted to leave, 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.120 and then they did and they were, you know, legitimate 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.240 Americans blah blah. There were also a lot of criminal 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.800 mixed in amongst them, because it was like, why not 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:43.200 do this? 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.720 This will be not good for America exactly. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.559 So Jesus is wanted for murder. I don't know if 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.960 that was in Cuba or Miami or both, but it 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:51.520 doesn't matter. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:52.079 Why not both? 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.400 Why not both? All Judy knew was that this Cuban 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:59.000 hunk was given her the eye. Yeah, in the moment, 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.240 she liked that. She's like, oh, I like have warm 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:05.800 for your form. So there's Judy living in Miami getting 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.440 by as a sex worker. She was cruising around in 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.439 this really sweet Lincoln Continental. Courtesy of her ex husband, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.920 so Avela. He was into her at the restaurant, but 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.040 what really got him going was the Lincoln. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.360 What hub he liked the car? 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.720 Yeah, uh no, not like the two short songs, but 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.800 he So they got together and he started asking her 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.960 for rides. He's like, can can you drive me too? 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:33.559 In the back? 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.320 I don't know? Well, so like he's asking for a lift, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:37.640 Give me a lift here, give me a lift there. 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.280 And then he's like, you know, I kind of want 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.400 to swing by these posh neighborhoods and look for potential 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.040 burglary targets. Could you give me a ride? 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:45.920 Help? 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.120 Can I get a ride? He's like, it's like a kid. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.880 Can you drop me off like two blocks away so 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:50.800 my friends won't see me? 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:51.640 Uh? 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.000 So Judy was the eyes and ears and gas money 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:59.320 of the operation wow right, So one time Judy saw 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.160 that she could also be the brains in the bron 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.120 So Bundy of Avalas he went into a home to 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.240 rob it. Place was super nice. He comes back to 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.400 the car and all he has is a twenty five 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.520 dollars radio. Yeah, He's like, I stole it from a 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:18.560 lady friend. Catching that's all you got? She Judy's pissed. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.360 This was small time behavior. She was not small time, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.120 so she didn't have to overcome all the garbage in 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.240 her life to watch a two bit thief steal a 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:26.800 cheap radio. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:27.520 Yeah. Completely. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.080 She's like, I'm going in, boys, come with me. So 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.040 they go back in the house and Judy gives them 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.560 like this impromptu tour. She starts pointing out all the 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:35.760 stuff that they should have taken. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.920 Deville, but it's just jewelry, jewelry. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.960 Get that crystal, give me those clothes, give that fur. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:43.680 So this is what she had to say about it. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.960 Quote after that, I just said the hell with it, 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.280 and I went out by myself. It was thrilling, like 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.640 shopping at Christmas and not paying the bills. I guess 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:56.440 people won't want to hear that, but it's true. In 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.080 five years, Judy burglarized more than five hundred home. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.720 Ten out of ten could highly recommend. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.280 So she picked her targets by looking through the parade 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.640 of homes and that was the Palm Beach Post real 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.920 estate section for high end property. So, like most of 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.360 us commoners, we look at luxury home listings as like 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.120 a daydream fantasy, she looks at it. She's like basically 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:19.080 ordering off a menu. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.160 Yeah, totally like that. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.240 And at first she was just in Dade County. But 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.400 remember what I said about the money moving up the 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.080 coast to the bocus. Yeah, so you know that's because 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.440 of the drug deal shootouts in Miami in the eighties. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.400 Judy moved up the coast too. She headed to Palm 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.960 Beach County. That's where the respectable rich money was because, 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.960 like the money in Miami was more and more a 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.960 product of cocaine trafficking, and breaking into a coke kingpin's 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.720 house gave you an increased risk of getting. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.120 Shot a lot increase. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.480 It's better to target law abiding citizens. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.320 So I mean, they'll shoot you, but they don't have 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:52.920 as many bullets or as. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.360 Many men as many guns. Yes, So she developed this method. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.720 She'd rent a luxury car she'd always pay cash for. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.440 She get all dressed up like a busy on the go, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.320 Boca Raton lady who lunches. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:04.400 Okay, I'm seeing it. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.120 She wore dress, slax and high heels, smile, and she 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.600 always wore a wig. She had long blonde one, she 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.760 had a short one. She had one with frosted tips. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.640 And she said She even had an afro wig, which like, hello, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.000 I want to see that, Like. 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.280 Are we talking afro like eighties white girl perm w. 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.600 I don't know if it's like eighties white girl permwig 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.880 or like Angela Davis afro, but either way, I'm in. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.400 So then she'd figure out which house she wanted to hit, 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.440 and then she'd just go park in the driveway, just 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.840 pull right up in because like a lot, and since 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.000 a lot of the homes were in new developments, she 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.800 could look at promotional materials that had all the available 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.720 floor plans. Oh wow. Developers pretty much gave her a 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.240 treasure map and they're like, here, this is where the 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:43.840 closets are. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.560 This is a four bedroom house. You gonna have one 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:46.640 hereupon two upstairs. 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:48.560 So she could look at the front and realize, okay, 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.120 this is what the layout is. So she'd go to 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.200 the door and she'd knock, and if someone was home 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.320 and came to the door, she would just apologize profusely 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:56.800 and say, oh my god, I'm at the wrong house. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.440 I'm so sorry. So she's living out one of our 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:03.280 show mottos. Act like, you know, totally confident. If no 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.320 one came to the door, and that rich sound of 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:09.560 the doorbell echoed unanswered through this enormous abode. She'd reach 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.280 right into her Gucci bag. Always carried a Gucci bag, 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.200 and that's where she kept her twelve inch flathead screwdriver. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:16.520 Wow. 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.840 And she had figured out this way to jam the 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.560 screwdriver in between the door and the jam and jimmy 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.760 the lock. And one of her selection criteria for the 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.320 homes was to pick ones with recessed doorways. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:27.840 Yeah. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.399 So, yeah, she wanted to make sure you couldn't be 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.919 seen from the street. Another thing she kept in that 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.600 Gucci bag was a can of mace, because you never 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.840 know when someone's eighties magnum pi Doberman would come bounding 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.240 out at you. So anyway, once she's in, she'd go 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:41.600 to work. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.399 She's still pain in the neighbor. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:51.760 Yeah. So she stole jewelry, she stole art, artwork, fine art, cash, clothes, housewares, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.879 you name it. And then she also stole pillowcases because 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:57.560 that's how she transported the booty. 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.119 I was just about to ask, how'd she get this out? 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.080 She's just walking out to the cases with pillows. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.400 I'm just carrying this laundry out every day. Halloween for her. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.960 Everything of value want with her, which she likes, she kept. 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.440 This is what Detective Bill Westman had to say about 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.720 her quote. She loved to steal beautiful clothes and jewelry. 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.840 She'd sell some of it, but she'd keep a lot 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:17.280 of it too. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.600 So she said in the cotton fields, I want the diamonds. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.960 I want the diamonds. So let's take a break and 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.480 think about all those Florida mansions denuded of their fine goods. 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.960 When we come back, we'll take a closer look at 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:30.840 Judy's operation. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:53.680 Yeah, hello, Zarin Elizabeth d. 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:54.359 Hello. 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:59.159 So here we got Judy Amar. She is burglarizing houses 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.240 during the day, part being it up at night. She'd 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.200 only hit houses on weekdays in the middle of the 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.080 day and then in her off time. She had a 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.280 bit of a coke habit. Oh okay, you know it's eighties. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.439 In one burglary alone, she took a quarter of a 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.120 million dollars worth of stuff. That's a lot. 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.080 Yeah, And do we know if that's like been like 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:19.680 the numbers being bumped by jewelry? 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:20.280 Yeah? 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.240 Oh yeah, it's jewelry. It's yeah, okay, that's pretty it's jewelry. 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.159 Is the big thing she has a good if it 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:25.679 was art. 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.880 Yeah, well quarter of a mill and she was doing 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.360 multiple jobs a week, So she's racking it. The stolen 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.400 stuff she didn't sell or keep for herself she sent 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:38.480 to friends of hers in Honduras. Now I couldn't find 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.240 out more about these friends in Honduras, Like were they 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.520 peace Corps people? Were they supporting the contras that were 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.200 operating out of Honduran bases? 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.000 Were they British expats you'd stay past the whole handover? 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:51.159 Were they helping the US overthrow the government of the 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.920 Kaby Were they Sandinis? 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.320 Were the Norse friends? 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.440 So much of the war in Nicaragua took place in Honduras? 0:19:58.520 --> 0:19:59.879 Yeah, oh yeah, I know, you're just brought on. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.760 There's Judy sending off the furs and handbags that didn't 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.960 suit her or fit her down to whatever. Interesting. 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:07.479 Maybe she's done it for the people, who knows. 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.560 Who knows? So she didn't just find clothes and ship 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:14.240 into South America. She found secrets, Okay, secrets, she said. 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.840 The best coke she ever scored is what she found 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:18.480 in a doctor's house that she robbed. 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.760 Oh medically pure. You hear this? Sad that so they 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:22.520 get the good stuff. 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:23.399 They get the good stuff. 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.080 It hasn't been stepped on. It's medically pure. 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:29.720 Okay. Once she found a photo of a homeowner posing 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:35.119 naked over her dog, I know, Oh, but I just 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.560 like I'm thinking like very eighties like she had, like like. 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.879 With the dog is more like the dog laying on 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.919 the carpet. Yeah, they're just using the dog as a prop. 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.320 The dog's laying there like say the Sphinx, and then 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.440 the ladies like standing astride the dog with like eighties 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:52.320 patent leather high heels. 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.480 The dog is a prop. The dog is not an 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:55.280 involved the dog. 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.240 Yeah, the dog is a prop. It might as well 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:58.360 be like a statue. 0:20:58.400 --> 0:20:59.920 Okay, then that's not as bad as what I was. 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:02.159 And at least that's what I'm telling me. 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.280 I'm going with that. You can't change my mind. 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.680 But she found other evidence of bad deeds and shameful 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.000 things we won't go into. Did she just leave it 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.880 where she found it? A La Vincenzo peppino esus flying 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:17.359 it right? She would place the incriminating items in like 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.560 an array on the bed in the master bedroom to 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:21.400 let them know that. 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:25.560 She knew red lipstick. Best part now you know. 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:29.240 That I know, but like Peppino, she said, she was 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:33.720 once interrupted while working when the homeowner came home. The 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.480 man walked into the house and saw a sassy, no 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:40.160 nonsense business woman rifling through his stuff. He was stunned. 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.040 He froze, Mom, what are you doing here? 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.760 She just ran off. She just sprints right by him. 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.520 But this man's eyewitness encounter is what clued the cops 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.400 in on the fact that the bandit of Boca del 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.080 Mar was a woman, because up until then the cops 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:55.280 all assumed it was a man. 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.920 Of course, just instantly very eighty sexist. 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.480 I have to say that I watched an episode of Masterminds, 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.440 which is a now defunct History Channel show about criminals, 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.720 and they had an episode about Old Judy. The wildest 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.840 thing is sort of how chauvinistic everyone interviewed is. And 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.400 this is like from two thousand and three, this was eighties. 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.160 But everyone acts like it's so shocking that a woman 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.159 did this. This is what detective THOMASI said, quote this 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.639 completely blew me off my feet, you know, dealing with 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.720 a prolific burglar who's a woman, and then asking about 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.440 how she would blend in. He said, no one would 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.440 give her a second thought because professional business women is 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.879 a very common occurrence here in Boca del Mar and 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.200 Boca Ratone. It's common to see a woman executive or 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.120 a woman real estate agent dress this way. 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:41.560 So he's both surprised that a woman could be competent 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:43.840 as a thief, and then also it's like surprise that 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:45.080 anyone would notice a woman. 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:46.920 It takes stock of her life. I mean, you see 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:48.440 women doing stuff all the time. 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.720 Very common occurrence is such a weird way to put it. 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:53.720 I mean I look around, I look up, that's a woman, 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:55.160 and I look over into another one. 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.640 I'm like, there's women all over the port, lady executive 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:01.280 over there, pants suit, oh a normally fellas. 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.040 He's not a Barbie doll. That's a real live woman. 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:04.480 That happens a lot around these. 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:06.600 Especially South Florida. If you've not been here. 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:08.800 We have women, we do and they have jobs, have 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:09.320 lady women. 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:14.080 They're out in the daytime doing stuff sometimes. So anyway, 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.000 this is amazing. Two thousand and three, two thousand and. 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.919 Three, So the dude who interrupted her theft wouldn't be 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.280 the last one to do that. A woman named Leslie 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.560 Near in Bocca del Mar heard something one day while 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.679 at home, which I just thought, it's Boca. 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:30.600 Raton, right, that's how they pronounce it. 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.239 I just know that, like people in Boca are going 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:37.000 to start messaging me, like, right. 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:38.360 Guess what it's not. 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.280 Like if you go to Atlanta, it's Ponce. It's not 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:46.879 Ponce de Leon, it's de Leon. Right in South they 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.960 often take the Spanish out of the Spanish. 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.320 Or Boca. For those in the now, del Mar, we'll 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:57.040 just call Boca, who cover it all. So Leslie near 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:58.280 she lives in Boca del Mar. 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.000 I call it mouse mouth mousemouth. 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.040 She sorry she heard something well one day when she 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.760 was at home, I suppose it wasn't a doorbell, since 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.639 the part that she heard was Judy's strong arming her 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.440 way into the house with her foot long screwdriver. So 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.160 she hear's that. Leslie looks out of her peep hole 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.320 to see what's making all the noise, and she sees 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.640 a lady up against her door trying to jimmy it open. 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.679 So Leslie flings open the front door and yells, what 0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:27.040 are you doing? That's brave, And Judy looks up at 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:28.960 her and goes, I'm just leaving, and then she legs 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.760 it to her car just leaving. Don't worry about me. 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:33.040 I wasn't here, I was never here. 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:36.640 Don't wry about it. Then, Nancy Alexander of Boca came 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.520 home one day to find a really sweet Lincoln Continental 0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.320 parked in her driveway and nance she's like a social 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.360 butterfly and figured it was just like a pal who 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:45.359 stopped by to say hello. 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.080 Maybe is in town? 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.960 Perhaps so like Seeing as her guests just love to 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.720 lounge on the lunai and share her neighborhood gossip, she 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.320 decided to just head directly to the backyard by the 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.240 pool because she figured that's where they are hanging out. 0:24:58.440 --> 0:24:59.600 She make drinks and walk out. 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.560 She didn't see her friends from tennis when she looked 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:06.119 out there. Instead, it was Judy, and she had a 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:12.080 pillowcase stuffed with Nancy's belongings, including her favorite leather boots. 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.520 Zaren Santa Claus. 0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:18.680 It totally is so she's got her like heart Barracuda 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.919 leather boots that she's running out with. Nancy is livid 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:26.439 and instinct just takes over. She pounced and attacked Judy. 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.520 She cleared that grass so fast wrapped her up like 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:30.399 a football player. 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.360 This is what Nancy Alexandra had to say. I don't 0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.439 know why I jumped on her. Maybe it was because 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.320 she was a woman and I thought I could stop her. 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.360 I quickly realized I was in trouble because check it. 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:42.679 Out, I can take her. She's a woman. 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.800 Judy had a blower in her Gucci bag. So Judy 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.399 draws a gun on nance. Nancy puts her hands up 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:54.080 and slowly starts walking backwards, like, oh oh, take the boots. 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.680 Oh long, I can't handle a woman with a gun. 0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:00.479 Judy just sprints off. Nancy scurries over to peek at 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.119 her driveway and she gets the license plate number. So, 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.840 thanks to Nancy Alexander's quick thinking, Judy was caught. She 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.880 gets charged with arm burglary, pleads guilty. She bonded out, 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.639 but then she skipped bail and she was on the 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:20.719 run for nearly three years. Detective TOMASI dog on a bone. 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.480 I have to look through all these lady executives and 0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.199 figure out which one of them is the bandit of 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:25.960 Boca del Mark. 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:27.640 There's tons of them here, so many. 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.879 Bandits of Bocodela mar running around. This is the prosecutor, 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:34.160 Lynne Baldwin later said, quote, Heaven help whoever he goes 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.560 after Ron never gave up. It's like because in his 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.680 off hours he's hanging out in his den trying to 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.040 get leads, and he reached out to her hometown in Arkansas. 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:44.440 Why is it so personal for him? 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:45.080 I don't know. 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.760 The trauma is Aaron the trauma people felt. So Judy 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.199 found out that Tamasi had contacted her son, and she 0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:53.160 was pissed. 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:54.200 She was so mad. 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.520 She called Tamasi well out on the run and told 0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.000 him to leave her family out of it. 0:26:59.080 --> 0:26:59.280 Yeah. 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:03.160 I feel STIs Tamasi was in deep though, so deep 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.920 that the stress from this case contributed to a heart 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:06.760 attack that he had. 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:07.760 Oh damn. 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:09.880 So he's like Claid, Oh God, Judy, I. 0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.240 Thought you'd can go the other way, like he started 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:12.520 like dating her sister. 0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.280 He got indeed, Yeah, I wish no so like he 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.440 has a heart attack. It's the summer of nineteen eighty six. 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:23.240 Judy almost got caught. She wasn't off in Honduras or 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.679 hiding out in the Grand Canyon or something. She was 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.600 on the twenty two thousand block of Iron Wedge Drive 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:34.040 in Boca Ratan, So she's still there. A sheriff's deputy 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.680 happened to be driving by when he saw something suspicious 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.879 and there was a woman who looked like Judy. He 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.560 was coming out of a house. Olgal knew she'd been made, 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.720 so she raced off to her rented Mercedes. Backup was 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.000 still on the way, So Judy she dug around in 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.199 the back seat and she grabbed a black wig and 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.159 she swapped it for the one she was wearing, and 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:55.240 then drove right through the perimeter established by the cops 0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:55.800 to catch her. 0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:57.520 Wait a minute, because. 0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.000 She had a different wig on. She waves at the 0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.360 deputy manning the road block, and then just breezed on by. 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.080 I can see why tomasis upset about women. If they're 0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.520 just all these cops are fooled by. Well, that's what 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:07.199 it couldn't be. 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.520 And it's black hair, Lady executive, black hair. I'm looking 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:11.200 for the blonde. 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.000 I mean the lady executive that we have right here 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.600 the picture of she's a blonde. So you see a 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:16.399 blonde lady. 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:18.920 She had a blonde mini afro, and that's not hers. 0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:20.520 She looks like she may sell your real estate. 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.879 You tell us so this is what Judy said. I 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:25.960 told them not to charge me with that one or 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.520 they'd look stupid. 0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.120 Don't worry about. 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.439 It, well, Detective Ron Tommasi, he eventually caught her. 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.040 Okay, but dog on a bone, you say. 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.680 When he finally caught her, he said, quote, I've never 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.520 chased anyone that was so good, and a woman at 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:46.680 that again, kidding me again, a lady burglar. I knew 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.320 I can, like he's doing lady criming. 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.960 You know how you always wonder like, oh, who do 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.480 they make these products just for men? For I think 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.680 we have found it, Detective to I just need a soap, 0:28:58.720 --> 0:28:59.640 but one for man. 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:01.320 I can't have a soap for the lady. 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.520 Want lady soap anywhere near a man's right? So how 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.200 did he get? A drug dealer tipped him off to 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:07.960 where he could. 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.120 Find Judy drug He knows drug dealers. 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.440 Yeah, well yeah, no lady drug dealer. 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:15.840 I know one thing about this drug dealer. Drug dealer. 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:17.440 It ain't no female drug dealer. 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.680 Zarin, close your eye, Oh no, you snucking up. 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.600 I'll be glad to I. 0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:27.200 Want you to picture. It's June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty seven. 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.320 You're a housekeeper at the Ocean Gate Motel in Surfside, Florida. 0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.680 It's a shabby art deco remnant of a grander time. 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.040 By the time I'm telling you this story, it's no 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.600 longer there. It almost looks like an ocean liner. Three 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.200 stories with an open air breezeway down the middle. The 0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.720 rooms all open out to the center grassy strip. Big 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.920 sloping stairways take guests down to the beach behind the hotel. 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.200 You can only imagine what it looked like back in 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.959 the fifties. So glamorous, but it's nineteen eighty seven and 0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.080 it seemed better days. You've just finished cleaning Room one 0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.600 oh eight. You're taking a break to eat a granola 0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.440 bar in the parking lot. The lady in room one 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.360 oh eight has been there for a couple months now. 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.440 She always has cool stuff. She brings bags and bags 0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.080 of stuff into her room every few days. She told 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:13.960 you and one of the other cleaners that she goes 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.960 to estate sales and picks up what she thinks is interesting, 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.720 then she turns around and sells it at second Ham 0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.120 shops and such. You did notice a little bag of 0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.480 cocaine in the drawer of her nightstand, but you don't judge. 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:28.760 It's Miami, not surprising. She seems nice enough, always cheerful 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.360 and polite, not like the guy in Room two fourteen. 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.080 His wife kicked him out of their house a few 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.320 weeks ago. All he does is sit in the room moping, 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.000 and every time you go to clean there's a new 0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.240 tower of pizza boxes. It's ten am. You watch the 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.640 cars and trucks speedby on Collins Avenue. You can hear 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.160 the lapping of the waves behind the building, the chatter 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.680 of the beach tourists out for the day, starting to 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:50.880 get a little crowded, but that's the season. You have 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:52.960 ten more rooms to go and then you're done for 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.040 the day. As you look at the corner of the 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.360 parking lot, you see a van. It's marked plumbing. You 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.680 hadn't heard that there are any plumbing issues. You wonder 0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:02.720 if it's someone sleeping in their van to cut costs 0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.800 on a vacation, or maybe it's a man in the 0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.200 same situation as the poor guy in Room till fourteen. 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:09.880 Although you're pretty sure his wife did the right thing 0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:11.920 kicking him out. You peer at the man in the 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.720 driver's seat. He has a pretty obvious fake mustache on 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.800 and maybe a hearing aid. Just then, you hear the 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.360 roar of a Mercedes. It's Room one o eight. She 0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.719 pulls into the parking lot and waves to you. You 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.080 wave back while biting into your crumbly granolivar. She gets 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.320 a spot and lifts a bunch of bags from her trunk. 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.480 She disappears behind the front doors of the motel, struggling 0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.400 with her bags. You hear footsteps on the pavement behind you. 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:38.520 Dozens of Sheriff's deputies come jogging past you, right to 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.360 the motel. You watch as they all shuffle in. You 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.680 look up and you notice snipers stationed on the roof 0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.000 of the building next door. You can see down the 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.480 breezeway that the cops are headed to Room one o eight. 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.840 The doors open and you watch as they shout and 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:54.320 enter the room, guns drawn. Moments later, you see the 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.920 lady from Room one o eight. She's sprinting as fast 0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.840 as she can from the back alley of the motel, 0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.440 headed to her car in the park lot. You're secretly 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.880 rooting for her whatever she did. Just then, the driver 0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.680 the plumbing van springs out and tackles that nice lady 0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.360 in room from Room one O eight smack on the 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.760 pavement at the age of forty, at ten am in 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.520 a motel parking lot, Judy was finally caught. 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.400 Oh damn, I gotta see it. 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.320 You got to see it. The cops keep you there 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.040 for questioning, ask you about the forty five thousand dollars 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.160 worth of clothes, jewelry, figurines, cocaine, and six hundred and 0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.120 ninety dollars in cash in the room. You don't know anything, 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.360 you tell them. Soon the news cameras and reporters show up. 0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:36.320 You give one statement, but you ask to remain anonymous. Quote. 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.040 Everyone here liked her. She had a kind of jolly 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.400 personality where you couldn't help but like her. She was 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.640 so nice you would want her for a neighbor. And 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:48.000 with that you headed home. Let's take a break. When 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.320 we come back, we'll see what this next chapter held 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:50.800 for Judy. 0:32:51.160 --> 0:33:13.960 Oh, yes, seven Clyde. 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.440 When we left off, Yeah, Judy Amar had been captured 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:20.560 at the Ocean Gate motel. 0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.000 I was there. I saw it all. You were totally 0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:23.400 asked your questions. I can tell you everything. 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:28.800 Yes, yes, not only did she have all the burglary charges, 0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.440 but she still had to be sentenced in Dade County 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.080 for possession of a gram of cocaine in nineteen eighty four. 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.120 Did the cops lay them out in her place for her, 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:36.960 just like on like. 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.960 An array, Like here you go, here's all your charges. 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.720 Well, she didn't just captivate the motel staff, you and 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.360 all your coworkers. Tracy Cohane, a reporter for the Washington Post, 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:51.680 wrote that Judy quote enchanted the cops, fascinated the prosecutor, 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.760 and charmed the judge. Prosecutor Lynn Baldman, I'd talked about 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.160 her earlier. This is how she described Judy. Very beautiful, 0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:05.000 charming and intelligent for a lady for well, and like 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.600 that was the compliment that she so badly wanted in Arkansas, 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:10.719 but she never got it. So now she's getting from 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:14.600 the day and a lady a lady. Well here's the 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:20.000 detective thumosity. Well, he said, great, great personality, razor sharp mind. 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.440 So he comes very close to the to the descriptor. 0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.480 That irritates me so much is when men describe women 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.440 as whip smart, because they never describe other men as 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:30.080 whip smart. 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:31.879 No, you will never made a whip smart man. 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:36.760 No, it's irritating, like it's like lady smart. So Judy, 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.880 she had no regrets and she had no apologies either. 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.920 She went so far as to accuse her victims of 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:48.000 exaggerating their insurance claims, and she said, She's like, if 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.719 they exaggerated, I am happy to testify against them. And 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.839 then here's the quote that I knew you would love 0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.879 when I was transcribing this quote. I stole illegally. They 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:04.880 stole legally. It's the difference. Yeah, she's another one of 0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:06.880 our folk hero Robin hood thieves. 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.600 Yes, yeah, some still with a gun, some still with 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.279 a Pen's to do a lot more with a pen. 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:12.480 It's true. 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.040 The Sheriff's Department, ever captivated by her, asked her to 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.480 help film a video for them. It was their star 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:24.680 search audition tape Get Out. No, I'm just kidding, trying 0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:26.840 to get Ed McMahon on board. And look what we 0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:28.759 got talent down here, Judy. They have like a boy 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.319 dance routine. No, they wanted her to help them put 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.960 together a video explaining how criminals think and how they 0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.680 do the actual work of the robbery. And that meant 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.880 that she would explain how she picked houses and how 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.080 she jimmied open doors. 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.080 She was super into this a video for cops or 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.279 for people who live in miamis. 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.640 For cops wondering, it's like a peek into the mind. 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:52.879 Yeah, yeah, they wanted training videos well, and. 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.840 The video wound up being used not just locally but national. 0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.279 Sure, it's like profile her type stuff where they're like, 0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:59.040 here's how they think. 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.680 Well, this is what detect of lou Sessa said quote. 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.799 She'll be able to give us some information on what 0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:05.880 to look for. It's always good to look at it 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.359 from both sides of the fence. It will school our 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.319 officers and patrol techniques and school us in teaching the 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:15.040 general public on crime prevention. And they get to hang 0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:16.440 out with Judy, the lady burglar. 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.400 Yeah she's a woman at that could. 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.200 You believe it? So, her fingerprints were found at three 0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.480 Burgley crime scenes, and after her arrest, she not only 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:27.280 agreed to help with the training video, but also agreed 0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.440 to help the police solve other cases. So the Delray 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.040 Beach police drove her around town and she'd point out 0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.799 the houses that she robbed, right, and then she'd tell 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.120 them exactly, you know, how she did it, all the details. 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.439 So she helped the cops clear twenty one cases, all 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.680 with the promise that she wouldn't be charged for those 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:46.640 twenty one cases, just so they could be like, okay, 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.040 we figured it out, get it off the books. 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.240 So she's like, look, i'll help you close your books 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.120 and you'll have a great closure rape and it'll be 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:53.960 like you don't get a charge. 0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:55.680 Out of this, yeah, because they've already charged. 0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:57.399 Yeah, okay, Well that's again. 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:01.120 This is how Sergeant Ross lookta, this is how he 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.360 explained it. That was part of the deal in bringing 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.319 her here. We didn't have anything to link her to 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.640 those cases, but we did have her fingerprints in the 0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.600 three burglaries. So yeah, she's just closing them. And when 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.680 asked about life as a fugitive, Judy said, it wasn't 0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.799 that hard. Most of the cops weren't that smart. She 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.200 always gets a bless I love that. So Tamasi, though 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:22.440 he had a better opinion. 0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.680 Of Jude, she should have said something like they're not 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.839 too smart, I mean for men. Oh my god. 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:29.720 Yes, she missed her opportunity. So this is what Tamasi said. Quote. 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.200 She was very candid. The woman holds no animosity toward me. 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.160 She said she had a job to do, and I 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.319 had a job to do. She said, we got her 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:38.000 fair and square. 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.000 You still got the woman bit in there a little bit. 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:41.279 He cannot let that go. 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.480 Yeah. On the day of her sentencing, the courtroom was 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.400 a buzz Okay, it was more than that was like festive. 0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:50.440 This was the end of an era for a local legend. 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.799 Oh I bet. Yeah. That's like they're like like fun 0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:53.359 robin Hood. 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:58.480 Really Yeah. She pled guilty to thirty charges, right, and 0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:00.960 she got ten years in prison for her burglaries and 0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:04.080 three years for having a gun during that one burglary 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.960 where she pulled it out with lady. She confessed to 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:11.400 over five hundred burglaries whoa, and she offered to return 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.920 two hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of stolen items 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.920 all right. In July of eighty seven, about one hundred 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.720 people showed up at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's office. 0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:23.480 They were there to reclaim property that they believe Judy stole. 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:28.480 So Detective Sessa said, quote, she doesn't want any of 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.520 these cases to resurface after she is sentenced. She could 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.040 be recharged. She wants to do her time and get 0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:36.680 out and hopefully straighten up her life. She's never done 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.439 any hard time before, so this hopefully will straighten her out. 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.240 That's so smart. Just get it all, wipe the slate. 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:43.560 Yeah, I would have. 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.680 Some sense of immunity going on, and well you know 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.799 that everyone loves you like they're treating me really well, 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:51.239 it's not lego. So during the sentencing, Judy like smiles 0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:51.520 too much. 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.600 Didn't have somebody above her, or she could have flipped on. 0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:55.000 She could have walked with no charges. 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:56.000 She had no one above her. 0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.200 I know, that's the only thing is this lady. She 0:38:58.280 --> 0:38:59.719 was on her own, which was a good move at 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.680 the time she was. But if she had that, I 0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:03.000 bet she could have walked away totally. 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:04.920 C probably, but then that person would come after her. 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.279 Yeah, you know she could manage it well. 0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.080 So Judy during the sentencing, she's just cutting up with 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.120 the circuit Judge Tom Johnson. I mean they're just going 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.279 back and forth. And he said, come on, Judy, the 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.879 photographers want you to pose, because the cameras were all 0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.319 clicking away, and then he asked Judy if she had 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.959 finished up the training video for the Sheriff's office, and 0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.520 Judy said quote, yes, but I want to do it over. 0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:28.840 My eye was swollen and I didn't take a good picture. 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.359 And so then Johnson says, did they let you dress up? 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:34.359 And Judy's like, yeah they did. 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.320 He's like, oh, Judy, you could never take a bad picture. 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:41.319 So that Johnson congratulates Tomasi for his tenacity, and then 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.279 he asked them, quote, you gotta let Judy do the 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:47.919 film again with more makeup. It's ridiculous though, And then 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.600 as Judy's led away to begin her sentence, she tells 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.880 reporters that I feel fantastic. Yes, she feels great. 0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.920 The Miami jumping out of all this courtroom scenes. 0:39:56.480 --> 0:40:00.760 So Timasi does the math. He calculated up what Judy 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:04.880 stole and he estimated it at three to six million dollars. 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.760 I have to do, yeah, five hundred robberies in that area, 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.080 mostly hitting nice places. And she was upset about the 0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.040 guy who told the cheap radio. So we know she's 0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:14.360 not coming out with like totally anything little. 0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:18.040 Yeah, she's just not small time. Tamasi said, quote, I 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.080 waited a long time for this. A case like this 0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.440 might come along once in an officer's career. 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:24.080 And a woman at that and a woman at that. 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.200 But then look what I talked about at the top 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.600 of the episode. He had another lady burglar. 0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:29.480 Yeah, totally. 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.760 Meanwhile, Judy's mom back in Arkansas said quote, she changed 0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.719 when she left here. She sure did. I guess citified 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:42.759 is what you'd call itified. Judy is one of a kind. 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:47.160 I guess that's something to be thankful for. Wow, cityfied, 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:50.520 I see where she gets the disc is. Judy got 0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.080 out of jail in nineteen ninety. She only did three 0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.160 years of the thirteen year sentence. 0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:56.200 It was a non violent crime. 0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.239 You where is she now? 0:40:58.480 --> 0:40:59.319 Well, where is she now? 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:00.640 There's a bit now you tell me? 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.200 Thank you for not telling me yet. 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.520 As of last reporting, she's a home security consultant. So 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:08.720 she's she's a white. 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.840 Hat, white hat hacker burger okay. 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.879 I tried to find more follow up information on her 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.279 and I could. I tracked down her mother's obituary, okay, 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:21.319 which put Judy still alive in twenty fifteen, but going 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.840 by a different last name. So wherever she is, I 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:28.960 wish her godspeed, godspeed bandit of Boca del Mar. What's 0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.080 your ridiculous takeaway? 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.280 Florida? Pretty much Florida. 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.719 I mean, I know all honesty. Like I think I've 0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:38.440 said this before. I have family in Florida. I used 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.280 to go there a lot when I was raised in Georgia. 0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.600 It's somewhere I feel very comfortable. And at no point 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.480 do I look down on Florida. So I'm not one 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.320 of these people who's making fun of or wagging my 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.960 finger at Florida. I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with your 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.120 Florida and I'm saying it straight to your face. At 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:54.560 the same time, this play is wild. So the Florida 0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:56.279 of it all like where you have like these old 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.640 people meeting up with all these like you know, recent 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.160 immigrants happy to like make it to America and become 0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.800 really proud Americans. And then you have all these criminals 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:05.680 that are going this gives me a great place to 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:09.239 hide out. It's just amazing energy, just a chaos and 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.319 like they talk about, oh it's a melting pot, that's 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:13.920 where the melting pot bubbles. 0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.040 Yeah, And what I like about Florida is that lady 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.399 executives are not an anomaly. You actually see them walking 0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.080 around in the wild all the time. 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:23.680 Just there's so many you lose count. 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.359 You cannot count them, Elizabeth, it's just lady executive four 0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:29.480 or five, real litter seventeen. 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.279 I mean, I don't have enough fingers for this. 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:33.799 And if you can believe it, I mean they're they're 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:34.520 driving cars. 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.360 Yes, I saw one using money. 0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:37.600 It's crazy money. 0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:41.879 Elizabeth, a lady professional and her husband wasn't even there. 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.600 I know, but you know what, that's it's one of 0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:45.799 those special things about us. 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.400 That's I mean, Miami is a really progressive place with 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:49.560 the ladies, with. 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.160 The lady workers. 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