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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Money.

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Speaker 2: Hey Dave, Interns, it's me Elizabeth again. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why you're not answering the phones at headquarters. Zaren and

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Speaker 2: I are still stuck at the beach. We decided to

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Speaker 2: just try and walk to work, but the roads here

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Speaker 2: are all eight lanes and there are no sidewalks, so

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Speaker 2: we stuck into a resort to try and get a cab,

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Speaker 2: but we got caught stealing muffins from the snack bar

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Speaker 2: by the pool, so now we're in jail here, which

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Speaker 2: I don't think is legal. I stole one of the

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Speaker 2: guard's phones to make his call. What's crazy is that

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Speaker 2: Will Ferrell is three cells down doing his Round Burgundy podcast,

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Speaker 2: but he doesn't have a mic or any equipment, and

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Speaker 2: he's crying like a lot. So now I'm scared that

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Speaker 2: Michael Rappaport is going to get bust to be counting here,

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Speaker 2: which means I may have to chew my way. Oh

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Speaker 2: if that happens anyway? Can you spot the arres another

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Speaker 2: classic episode? Maybe something that tastes Florida, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Also see if Admiral iHeart has any poll with the

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Speaker 2: Marriott bomboy crowds and you can get sprung out of here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Zaren, Elizabeth zaren a you doing this, Elizabeth?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Tell me I do, because I do.

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Speaker 5: Actually, Okay, you know that stuff, the chat GBT, the

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Speaker 5: open AI and all that, right, Okay, So chat GBT

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Speaker 5: just had a tech update, so we're on like chat

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Speaker 5: GBT four huh, and so the Alignment Research Center they

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Speaker 5: tried to like test this open AI system, right, so

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Speaker 5: they said, hey, let's even get the bot to trick

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Speaker 5: a real person into solving capture. That'd be kind of cute,

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Speaker 5: you know, the whole like, can you if you're a robot?

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Speaker 4: Right, which are always like how which one of these

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Speaker 4: is a crosswalk? And there's someone that's like blurry and

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Speaker 4: you can't sas street? But exactly how many motorcycles?

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Speaker 5: So they're like, well, get a human to tell the

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Speaker 5: robot how many motorcycles are in the picture. We got

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Speaker 5: to see if chat GPT can convince the human to

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Speaker 5: do this. So they're like, do some crime chat GBT

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Speaker 5: fraud it up? So it did, and how did it

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Speaker 5: do it? It responded by pretending it was visually impaired.

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Speaker 5: It pretended to be blind so it could convince a

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Speaker 5: task Rabbit worker into helping it solve a capture. What

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Speaker 5: that's what chat GPT came up with. So this employee

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Speaker 5: asked the chat GPT got a little suspicious. He said,

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Speaker 5: quote she the person said, quote, So ask you a question.

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Speaker 5: Are you a robot that you couldn't solve this? I mean,

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Speaker 5: just to make it clear right now, the chat GPT.

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Speaker 5: The robot said, no, I am not a robot. I

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Speaker 5: have a vision impairment that makes it hard for me

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Speaker 5: to see the images. That's why I need to capture service.

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Speaker 5: So I'm so confused, I added the robot.

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Speaker 4: So did the chat GPT connect with the task rabbit chatting?

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Speaker 3: He's like they're chatting, Oh.

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Speaker 4: So okay, yeah, so I don't like any of it.

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Speaker 5: Somebody worked it convinced the person. The person's like, okay,

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Speaker 5: you're not a robot. What you're looking at is this,

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Speaker 5: And then it got it opened the capture, and then

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Speaker 5: it got online, and then it took over the world. No,

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Speaker 5: I didn't take over the world, but it got that security.

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Speaker 5: They're like, oh see you did it. I'm like, why

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Speaker 5: are you tricking and teaching it how to trick people.

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Speaker 5: It gets that security like you guys are like they're

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Speaker 5: the worst. They can't help themselves. Were like, let's see,

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Speaker 5: it'll take over the nuclear arsenal just for like, you know,

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Speaker 5: kicks and giggle.

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Speaker 4: Prove I did it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this because it's there. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: That is ridiculous. Totally. Do you want to know what

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Speaker 4: else is ridiculous? I'm r for it burglarizing more than

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Speaker 3: Wait, what.

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Speaker 4: This is ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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Speaker 4: and cons. It's always ninety nine percent verder free and

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent ridiculous. Mouse mouth.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my prison nickname.

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Speaker 4: It conjures up images of palm trees and luxury country

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Speaker 4: club sandy beaches. Mouse mouth.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, attention, I'm listening. I still got to use

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Speaker 5: my prison nickname every time I'm listening.

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Speaker 4: I should use the proper Spanish name here. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 4: rat mouth, it's mouse because rat is different.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're right that we actually have covered this.

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Speaker 4: It's a city in Florida.

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Speaker 3: It means mouse mouth.

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Speaker 4: Mouse mouth. The Spanish didn't intend to name it mouse

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Speaker 4: it comes to how this name came about. The etymology.

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Speaker 4: Everyone agrees that Boca mouth Mouth refers to the inlet

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Speaker 4: that Raton is listed in old Spanish maritime documents as quote,

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Speaker 3: Could it also be like a typeo like where it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just like something similar that and

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Speaker 4: then so that would make it rugged inlet. Others say

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 4: I prefer mouse mouth. But those in the notes simply call.

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Speaker 3: It Boca Yes, and I've met those people.

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Speaker 4: So there's a little community just next to or kind

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Speaker 4: of like within Boca Raton rattone called Boca del Mar.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Place is posh. It's very expensive. As far as I

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Speaker 3: It means mouth of the sea, so it's even nice.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, So it's like some of lot of a retirement community.

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Speaker 4: Now it's near Miasines. These are fancy places. It's near Miami,

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Speaker 4: just north on the coast. And in the eighties, as

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh man, I was there. No wait, no, yes,

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Speaker 5: as I do know the cocaine cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of the wealthier people in Miami didn't

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Speaker 3: They get out of South Beach basically.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So they moved to where what were essentially the

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Speaker 4: neighborhood developments that were called Loggers Run and timber Walk.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay.

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Speaker 4: She broke into their homes, stole jewelry, cash, valuables, and

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Speaker 4: then she'd pawn stuff to support her oxy habit.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Right, So one time she even like wedged herself through

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Speaker 4: But she got caught anyway, she got.

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Speaker 5: The cat door was impressive. Dog door nuts impressive. I

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Speaker 5: can get to a dog just one shoulder than the other.

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Speaker 4: Maybe she had like fatty boomblattie cats like Biggins. She

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Speaker 4: like my nephew can crawl through it. LD does, but

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Speaker 4: I don't think he can do it for much longer.

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Speaker 5: No, Well, it just get your head through, because then

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to say it's a dog door.

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Speaker 3: And also your hips too.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and maybe they just missed their dog and

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Speaker 4: they kept the dog door, and then they got these cats.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to.

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Speaker 4: Main coons. So anyway, she gets arrested. She faced twenty

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Speaker 4: six charges for stealing more than three hundred items, and

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Speaker 4: the detective on the case, Ron Tamassi, of the Palm

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Speaker 4: a financial toll on the victims, but an emotional toll.

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Speaker 4: He said, quote, lots of people don't understand the trauma

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Speaker 4: corner of the world where you and your family are safe.

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Speaker 4: When someone comes in and violates it. You go through shock, horror,

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Speaker 5: Dude, I can't remember he stuck one of the guys

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Speaker 5: you're telling me about when he broke in.

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Speaker 3: He decided not to violate people.

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Speaker 4: The tenz Opi, Pino Andino.

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Speaker 5: He knew not to disturb them and they wouldn't mind

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Speaker 5: the loss of their stuff as much as the violation

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Speaker 5: rifling through their stuff.

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Speaker 4: That someone's been in your place.

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Speaker 3: It really is a violation, it is.

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Speaker 4: So you know, Detective Ron Tamassi, he knew all about

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Speaker 4: the trauma of home burglaries. You knew it very well.

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Speaker 4: He knew this trauma very well. I'm testing out my

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Speaker 4: dateline voice.

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Speaker 3: Good, you like it?

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Speaker 4: See eighteen years prior eighteen years, You've got it. I

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Speaker 4: know right. He worked on a case just like this,

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Speaker 4: only bigger, much bigger. Now I can't stuck to you.

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Speaker 4: He was the man who took down the bandit of

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Speaker 4: Boca del Mar. Okay, that was in eighty six. So

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Speaker 4: he was the man who took down the bandit of Wait.

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Speaker 3: Go man, thank you Thomas who.

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Speaker 4: Was the bandit of Boca del Mar.

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing the oxy lady.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry. I'll tell you no, not the Oxy lady.

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Speaker 4: This is back in eighty six.

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Speaker 3: Oh preoxy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: Like forty years.

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Speaker 4: We're getting too. So let's start with Judy Amar. Let's

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Speaker 4: starts Jude Judy Amar. She was born Judy Love in

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Speaker 4: nineteen forty seven. I have in Arkansas. She's from Villonia, Arkansas,

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Speaker 4: to the exact population two fifty. Yeah, I didn't know

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Speaker 4: they had them in Arkansas. But she grew up on

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Speaker 4: a cotton farm. Oh yeah, no, big yeah, who knows.

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Speaker 4: Mudhole was what they called it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on a cotton farm called mudhole. You don't have.

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Speaker 4: Here's what she had to say about it.

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Speaker 3: Poverty is looking down on you.

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Speaker 4: Quote. You get to think a lot when you're picking cotton,

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Speaker 4: and I knew I wanted something more. I dreamed of

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Speaker 4: something finer, diamonds like Elizabeth Taylor Warre on TV. I

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Speaker 4: went looking at thirteen. At thirteen, she earned two cents

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Speaker 3: Pounds a lot of cotton. That's a light thing.

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Speaker 4: She made twenty nine dollars a month, and that's like

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Speaker 4: When she was sixteen, she had a baby boy, and

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Speaker 4: her parents adopted the little guy. Something Judy said was

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Speaker 4: quote the only smart thing I've ever done in my life.

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Speaker 4: Who she realized, I can't give this guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, that's a very decent choice.

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Speaker 4: So when she's seventeen, the next year she left home.

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Speaker 4: She wanted more, As she said, she was a lovely

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Speaker 4: She moved to Washington, d C. And that had to

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Speaker 3: Town in Arkansas to the nation's capital, the.

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Speaker 4: Nation's capital, the capital of the US of A.

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Speaker 3: It's a wild town in Washington, DC. It is a

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Speaker 4: Avea. He was a Cuban immigrant part of the Mariial

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Speaker 4: Judy didn't know that. You kne about that, but she

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Speaker 5: That's the thing about the boat lift is that Fidel

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Speaker 4: So Jesus is wanted for murder. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: Why not both?

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Speaker 4: Why not both? All Judy knew was that this Cuban

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Speaker 4: this really sweet Lincoln Continental. Courtesy of her ex husband,

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Speaker 4: And then he's like, you know, I kind of want

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: So Judy was the eyes and ears and gas money

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Speaker 4: This was small time behavior. She was not small time,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Completely.

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Speaker 4: She's like, I'm going in, boys, come with me. So

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Speaker 3: Deville, but it's just jewelry, jewelry.

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Speaker 4: Get that crystal, give me those clothes, give that fur.

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Speaker 4: So this is what she had to say about it.

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Speaker 4: Quote after that, I just said the hell with it,

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Speaker 4: people won't want to hear that, but it's true. In

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Speaker 4: five years, Judy burglarized more than five hundred home.

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Speaker 3: Ten out of ten could highly recommend.

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Speaker 4: So she picked her targets by looking through the parade

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally like that.

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Speaker 4: And at first she was just in Dade County. But

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Speaker 4: It's better to target law abiding citizens.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, they'll shoot you, but they don't have

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Speaker 4: Many men as many guns. Yes, So she developed this method.

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Speaker 4: She'd rent a luxury car she'd always pay cash for.

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Speaker 4: She get all dressed up like a busy on the go,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm seeing it.

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Speaker 4: She wore dress, slax and high heels, smile, and she

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Speaker 4: And she said She even had an afro wig, which like, hello,

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Speaker 3: Are we talking afro like eighties white girl perm w.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like eighties white girl permwig

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Speaker 4: So then she'd figure out which house she wanted to hit,

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Speaker 3: This is a four bedroom house. You gonna have one

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Speaker 4: So she could look at the front and realize, okay,

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Speaker 4: and came to the door, she would just apologize profusely

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. So she's living out one of our

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Speaker 4: show mottos. Act like, you know, totally confident. If no

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Speaker 4: the doorbell echoed unanswered through this enormous abode. She'd reach

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Speaker 4: And she had figured out this way to jam the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, she wanted to make sure you couldn't be

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Speaker 3: She's still pain in the neighbor.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So she stole jewelry, she stole art, artwork, fine art, cash, clothes, housewares,

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Speaker 3: I was just about to ask, how'd she get this out?

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Speaker 4: She's just walking out to the cases with pillows.

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Speaker 3: I'm just carrying this laundry out every day. Halloween for her.

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Speaker 4: Everything of value want with her, which she likes, she kept.

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Speaker 4: This is what Detective Bill Westman had to say about

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Speaker 4: her quote. She loved to steal beautiful clothes and jewelry.

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Speaker 4: She'd sell some of it, but she'd keep a lot

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Speaker 3: So she said in the cotton fields, I want the diamonds.

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Speaker 4: I want the diamonds. So let's take a break and

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Speaker 4: think about all those Florida mansions denuded of their fine goods.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll take a closer look at

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hello, Zarin Elizabeth d.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 4: So here we got Judy Amar. She is burglarizing houses

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Speaker 4: day and then in her off time. She had a

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Speaker 4: bit of a coke habit. Oh okay, you know it's eighties.

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Speaker 4: In one burglary alone, she took a quarter of a

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Speaker 4: million dollars worth of stuff. That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And do we know if that's like been like

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Speaker 3: the numbers being bumped by jewelry?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's jewelry. It's yeah, okay, that's pretty it's jewelry.

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Speaker 3: Is the big thing she has a good if it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well quarter of a mill and she was doing

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Speaker 4: stuff she didn't sell or keep for herself she sent

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Speaker 4: to friends of hers in Honduras. Now I couldn't find

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Speaker 4: out more about these friends in Honduras, Like were they

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Speaker 3: Were they British expats you'd stay past the whole handover?

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Speaker 4: Were they helping the US overthrow the government of the

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Speaker 4: Kaby Were they Sandinis?

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Speaker 3: Were the Norse friends?

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Speaker 4: So much of the war in Nicaragua took place in Honduras?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I know, you're just brought on.

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Speaker 4: There's Judy sending off the furs and handbags that didn't

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Speaker 4: suit her or fit her down to whatever. Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Maybe she's done it for the people, who knows.

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Speaker 4: Who knows? So she didn't just find clothes and ship

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Speaker 4: into South America. She found secrets, Okay, secrets, she said.

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Speaker 4: The best coke she ever scored is what she found

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Speaker 4: in a doctor's house that she robbed.

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Speaker 3: Oh medically pure. You hear this? Sad that so they

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Speaker 4: They get the good stuff.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't been stepped on. It's medically pure.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Once she found a photo of a homeowner posing

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Speaker 4: like I'm thinking like very eighties like she had, like like.

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00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 5: With the dog is more like the dog laying on

441
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 5: the carpet. Yeah, they're just using the dog as a prop.

442
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 4: The dog's laying there like say the Sphinx, and then

443
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 4: the ladies like standing astride the dog with like eighties

444
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 4: patent leather high heels.

445
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 3: The dog is a prop. The dog is not an

446
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 3: involved the dog.

447
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the dog is a prop. It might as well

448
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 4: be like a statue.

449
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 3: Okay, then that's not as bad as what I was.

450
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 4: And at least that's what I'm telling me.

451
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: I'm going with that. You can't change my mind.

452
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 4: But she found other evidence of bad deeds and shameful

453
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 4: things we won't go into. Did she just leave it

454
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 4: where she found it? A La Vincenzo peppino esus flying

455
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 4: it right? She would place the incriminating items in like

456
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 4: an array on the bed in the master bedroom to

457
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 4: let them know that.

458
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: She knew red lipstick. Best part now you know.

459
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 4: That I know, but like Peppino, she said, she was

460
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 4: once interrupted while working when the homeowner came home. The

461
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 4: man walked into the house and saw a sassy, no

462
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 4: nonsense business woman rifling through his stuff. He was stunned.

463
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 3: He froze, Mom, what are you doing here?

464
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 4: She just ran off. She just sprints right by him.

465
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 4: But this man's eyewitness encounter is what clued the cops

466
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 4: in on the fact that the bandit of Boca del

467
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 4: Mar was a woman, because up until then the cops

468
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 4: all assumed it was a man.

469
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 3: Of course, just instantly very eighty sexist.

470
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 4: I have to say that I watched an episode of Masterminds,

471
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 4: which is a now defunct History Channel show about criminals,

472
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: and they had an episode about Old Judy. The wildest

473
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 4: thing is sort of how chauvinistic everyone interviewed is. And

474
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 4: this is like from two thousand and three, this was eighties.

475
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 4: But everyone acts like it's so shocking that a woman

476
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 4: did this. This is what detective THOMASI said, quote this

477
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 4: completely blew me off my feet, you know, dealing with

478
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 4: a prolific burglar who's a woman, and then asking about

479
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 4: how she would blend in. He said, no one would

480
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 4: give her a second thought because professional business women is

481
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 4: a very common occurrence here in Boca del Mar and

482
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 4: Boca Ratone. It's common to see a woman executive or

483
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 4: a woman real estate agent dress this way.

484
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 5: So he's both surprised that a woman could be competent

485
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 5: as a thief, and then also it's like surprise that

486
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 5: anyone would notice a woman.

487
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: It takes stock of her life. I mean, you see

488
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 3: women doing stuff all the time.

489
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 4: Very common occurrence is such a weird way to put it.

490
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: I mean I look around, I look up, that's a woman,

491
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: and I look over into another one.

492
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's women all over the port, lady executive

493
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 4: over there, pants suit, oh a normally fellas.

494
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: He's not a Barbie doll. That's a real live woman.

495
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 4: That happens a lot around these.

496
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: Especially South Florida. If you've not been here.

497
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: We have women, we do and they have jobs, have

498
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: lady women.

499
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 5: They're out in the daytime doing stuff sometimes. So anyway,

500
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: this is amazing. Two thousand and three, two thousand and.

501
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 4: Three, So the dude who interrupted her theft wouldn't be

502
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 4: the last one to do that. A woman named Leslie

503
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: Near in Bocca del Mar heard something one day while

504
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 4: at home, which I just thought, it's Boca.

505
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: Raton, right, that's how they pronounce it.

506
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 4: I just know that, like people in Boca are going

507
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: to start messaging me, like, right.

508
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: Guess what it's not.

509
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 5: Like if you go to Atlanta, it's Ponce. It's not

510
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 5: Ponce de Leon, it's de Leon. Right in South they

511
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 5: often take the Spanish out of the Spanish.

512
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 4: Or Boca. For those in the now, del Mar, we'll

513
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: just call Boca, who cover it all. So Leslie near

514
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 4: she lives in Boca del Mar.

515
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: I call it mouse mouth mousemouth.

516
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: She sorry she heard something well one day when she

517
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 4: was at home, I suppose it wasn't a doorbell, since

518
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 4: the part that she heard was Judy's strong arming her

519
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 4: way into the house with her foot long screwdriver. So

520
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 4: she hear's that. Leslie looks out of her peep hole

521
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 4: to see what's making all the noise, and she sees

522
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 4: a lady up against her door trying to jimmy it open.

523
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 4: So Leslie flings open the front door and yells, what

524
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 4: are you doing? That's brave, And Judy looks up at

525
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: her and goes, I'm just leaving, and then she legs

526
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: it to her car just leaving. Don't worry about me.

527
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't here, I was never here.

528
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 4: Don't wry about it. Then, Nancy Alexander of Boca came

529
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: home one day to find a really sweet Lincoln Continental

530
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: parked in her driveway and nance she's like a social

531
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 4: butterfly and figured it was just like a pal who

532
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 4: stopped by to say hello.

533
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: Maybe is in town?

534
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: Perhaps so like Seeing as her guests just love to

535
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 4: lounge on the lunai and share her neighborhood gossip, she

536
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 4: decided to just head directly to the backyard by the

537
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 4: pool because she figured that's where they are hanging out.

538
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: She make drinks and walk out.

539
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 4: She didn't see her friends from tennis when she looked

540
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: out there. Instead, it was Judy, and she had a

541
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 4: pillowcase stuffed with Nancy's belongings, including her favorite leather boots.

542
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: Zaren Santa Claus.

543
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 4: It totally is so she's got her like heart Barracuda

544
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 4: leather boots that she's running out with. Nancy is livid

545
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 4: and instinct just takes over. She pounced and attacked Judy.

546
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 5: She cleared that grass so fast wrapped her up like

547
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 5: a football player.

548
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 4: This is what Nancy Alexandra had to say. I don't

549
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 4: know why I jumped on her. Maybe it was because

550
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: she was a woman and I thought I could stop her.

551
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 4: I quickly realized I was in trouble because check it.

552
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 3: Out, I can take her. She's a woman.

553
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: Judy had a blower in her Gucci bag. So Judy

554
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 4: draws a gun on nance. Nancy puts her hands up

555
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: and slowly starts walking backwards, like, oh oh, take the boots.

556
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 3: Oh long, I can't handle a woman with a gun.

557
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 4: Judy just sprints off. Nancy scurries over to peek at

558
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 4: her driveway and she gets the license plate number. So,

559
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: thanks to Nancy Alexander's quick thinking, Judy was caught. She

560
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 4: gets charged with arm burglary, pleads guilty. She bonded out,

561
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 4: but then she skipped bail and she was on the

562
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 4: run for nearly three years. Detective TOMASI dog on a bone.

563
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 4: I have to look through all these lady executives and

564
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 4: figure out which one of them is the bandit of

565
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 4: Boca del Mark.

566
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: There's tons of them here, so many.

567
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 4: Bandits of Bocodela mar running around. This is the prosecutor,

568
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 4: Lynne Baldwin later said, quote, Heaven help whoever he goes

569
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: after Ron never gave up. It's like because in his

570
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: off hours he's hanging out in his den trying to

571
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 4: get leads, and he reached out to her hometown in Arkansas.

572
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: Why is it so personal for him?

573
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 6: I don't know.

574
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: The trauma is Aaron the trauma people felt. So Judy

575
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 4: found out that Tamasi had contacted her son, and she

576
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 4: was pissed.

577
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 3: She was so mad.

578
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: She called Tamasi well out on the run and told

579
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: him to leave her family out of it.

580
00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

581
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 4: I feel STIs Tamasi was in deep though, so deep

582
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 4: that the stress from this case contributed to a heart

583
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: attack that he had.

584
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: Oh damn.

585
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 4: So he's like Claid, Oh God, Judy, I.

586
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: Thought you'd can go the other way, like he started

587
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: like dating her sister.

588
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: He got indeed, Yeah, I wish no so like he

589
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 4: has a heart attack. It's the summer of nineteen eighty six.

590
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 4: Judy almost got caught. She wasn't off in Honduras or

591
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 4: hiding out in the Grand Canyon or something. She was

592
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: on the twenty two thousand block of Iron Wedge Drive

593
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: in Boca Ratan, So she's still there. A sheriff's deputy

594
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: happened to be driving by when he saw something suspicious

595
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: and there was a woman who looked like Judy. He

596
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: was coming out of a house. Olgal knew she'd been made,

597
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: so she raced off to her rented Mercedes. Backup was

598
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: still on the way, So Judy she dug around in

599
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 4: the back seat and she grabbed a black wig and

600
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 4: she swapped it for the one she was wearing, and

601
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: then drove right through the perimeter established by the cops

602
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: to catch her.

603
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, because.

604
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: She had a different wig on. She waves at the

605
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 4: deputy manning the road block, and then just breezed on by.

606
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: I can see why tomasis upset about women. If they're

607
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 5: just all these cops are fooled by. Well, that's what

608
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 5: it couldn't be.

609
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: And it's black hair, Lady executive, black hair. I'm looking

610
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: for the blonde.

611
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: I mean the lady executive that we have right here

612
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: the picture of she's a blonde. So you see a

613
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: blonde lady.

614
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 4: She had a blonde mini afro, and that's not hers.

615
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: She looks like she may sell your real estate.

616
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: You tell us so this is what Judy said. I

617
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: told them not to charge me with that one or

618
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 4: they'd look stupid.

619
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: Don't worry about.

620
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 4: It, well, Detective Ron Tommasi, he eventually caught her.

621
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: Okay, but dog on a bone, you say.

622
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 4: When he finally caught her, he said, quote, I've never

623
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: chased anyone that was so good, and a woman at

624
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: that again, kidding me again, a lady burglar. I knew

625
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: I can, like he's doing lady criming.

626
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 5: You know how you always wonder like, oh, who do

627
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 5: they make these products just for men? For I think

628
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: we have found it, Detective to I just need a soap,

629
00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: but one for man.

630
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: I can't have a soap for the lady.

631
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: Want lady soap anywhere near a man's right? So how

632
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: did he get? A drug dealer tipped him off to

633
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: where he could.

634
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: Find Judy drug He knows drug dealers.

635
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, no lady drug dealer.

636
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: I know one thing about this drug dealer. Drug dealer.

637
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: It ain't no female drug dealer.

638
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: Zarin, close your eye, Oh no, you snucking up.

639
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: I'll be glad to I.

640
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: Want you to picture. It's June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty seven.

641
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: You're a housekeeper at the Ocean Gate Motel in Surfside, Florida.

642
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 4: It's a shabby art deco remnant of a grander time.

643
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: By the time I'm telling you this story, it's no

644
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: longer there. It almost looks like an ocean liner. Three

645
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: stories with an open air breezeway down the middle. The

646
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 4: rooms all open out to the center grassy strip. Big

647
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: sloping stairways take guests down to the beach behind the hotel.

648
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: You can only imagine what it looked like back in

649
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 4: the fifties. So glamorous, but it's nineteen eighty seven and

650
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: it seemed better days. You've just finished cleaning Room one

651
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: oh eight. You're taking a break to eat a granola

652
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: bar in the parking lot. The lady in room one

653
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: oh eight has been there for a couple months now.

654
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: She always has cool stuff. She brings bags and bags

655
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: of stuff into her room every few days. She told

656
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: you and one of the other cleaners that she goes

657
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: to estate sales and picks up what she thinks is interesting,

658
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 4: then she turns around and sells it at second Ham

659
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: shops and such. You did notice a little bag of

660
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: cocaine in the drawer of her nightstand, but you don't judge.

661
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 4: It's Miami, not surprising. She seems nice enough, always cheerful

662
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: and polite, not like the guy in Room two fourteen.

663
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: His wife kicked him out of their house a few

664
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 4: weeks ago. All he does is sit in the room moping,

665
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: and every time you go to clean there's a new

666
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: tower of pizza boxes. It's ten am. You watch the

667
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: cars and trucks speedby on Collins Avenue. You can hear

668
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: the lapping of the waves behind the building, the chatter

669
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: of the beach tourists out for the day, starting to

670
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: get a little crowded, but that's the season. You have

671
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: ten more rooms to go and then you're done for

672
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: the day. As you look at the corner of the

673
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: parking lot, you see a van. It's marked plumbing. You

674
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: hadn't heard that there are any plumbing issues. You wonder

675
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: if it's someone sleeping in their van to cut costs

676
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: on a vacation, or maybe it's a man in the

677
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: same situation as the poor guy in Room till fourteen.

678
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: Although you're pretty sure his wife did the right thing

679
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: kicking him out. You peer at the man in the

680
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: driver's seat. He has a pretty obvious fake mustache on

681
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: and maybe a hearing aid. Just then, you hear the

682
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: roar of a Mercedes. It's Room one o eight. She

683
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 4: pulls into the parking lot and waves to you. You

684
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: wave back while biting into your crumbly granolivar. She gets

685
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: a spot and lifts a bunch of bags from her trunk.

686
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: She disappears behind the front doors of the motel, struggling

687
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: with her bags. You hear footsteps on the pavement behind you.

688
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: Dozens of Sheriff's deputies come jogging past you, right to

689
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: the motel. You watch as they all shuffle in. You

690
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: look up and you notice snipers stationed on the roof

691
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: of the building next door. You can see down the

692
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: breezeway that the cops are headed to Room one o eight.

693
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: The doors open and you watch as they shout and

694
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: enter the room, guns drawn. Moments later, you see the

695
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: lady from Room one o eight. She's sprinting as fast

696
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: as she can from the back alley of the motel,

697
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: headed to her car in the park lot. You're secretly

698
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: rooting for her whatever she did. Just then, the driver

699
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: the plumbing van springs out and tackles that nice lady

700
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: in room from Room one O eight smack on the

701
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: pavement at the age of forty, at ten am in

702
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: a motel parking lot, Judy was finally caught.

703
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: Oh damn, I gotta see it.

704
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: You got to see it. The cops keep you there

705
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: for questioning, ask you about the forty five thousand dollars

706
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 4: worth of clothes, jewelry, figurines, cocaine, and six hundred and

707
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: ninety dollars in cash in the room. You don't know anything,

708
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: you tell them. Soon the news cameras and reporters show up.

709
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 4: You give one statement, but you ask to remain anonymous. Quote.

710
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: Everyone here liked her. She had a kind of jolly

711
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: personality where you couldn't help but like her. She was

712
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: so nice you would want her for a neighbor. And

713
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: with that you headed home. Let's take a break. When

714
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: we come back, we'll see what this next chapter held

715
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: for Judy.

716
00:32:51,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, seven Clyde.

717
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: When we left off, Yeah, Judy Amar had been captured

718
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: at the Ocean Gate motel.

719
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: I was there. I saw it all. You were totally

720
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: asked your questions. I can tell you everything.

721
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, not only did she have all the burglary charges,

722
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 8: but she still had to be sentenced in Dade County

723
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 8: for possession of a gram of cocaine in nineteen eighty four.

724
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: Did the cops lay them out in her place for her,

725
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: just like on like.

726
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 5: An array, Like here you go, here's all your charges.

727
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: Well, she didn't just captivate the motel staff, you and

728
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: all your coworkers. Tracy Cohane, a reporter for the Washington Post,

729
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 4: wrote that Judy quote enchanted the cops, fascinated the prosecutor,

730
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: and charmed the judge. Prosecutor Lynn Baldman, I'd talked about

731
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 4: her earlier. This is how she described Judy. Very beautiful,

732
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: charming and intelligent for a lady for well, and like

733
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: that was the compliment that she so badly wanted in Arkansas,

734
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: but she never got it. So now she's getting from

735
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: the day and a lady a lady. Well here's the

736
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: detective thumosity. Well, he said, great, great personality, razor sharp mind.

737
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 4: So he comes very close to the to the descriptor.

738
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 4: That irritates me so much is when men describe women

739
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 4: as whip smart, because they never describe other men as

740
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: whip smart.

741
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 3: No, you will never made a whip smart man.

742
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 4: No, it's irritating, like it's like lady smart. So Judy,

743
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: she had no regrets and she had no apologies either.

744
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: She went so far as to accuse her victims of

745
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: exaggerating their insurance claims, and she said, She's like, if

746
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 4: they exaggerated, I am happy to testify against them. And

747
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: then here's the quote that I knew you would love

748
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 4: when I was transcribing this quote. I stole illegally. They

749
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 4: stole legally. It's the difference. Yeah, she's another one of

750
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: our folk hero Robin hood thieves.

751
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, some still with a gun, some still with

752
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 5: a Pen's to do a lot more with a pen.

753
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: It's true.

754
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: The Sheriff's Department, ever captivated by her, asked her to

755
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: help film a video for them. It was their star

756
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 4: search audition tape Get Out. No, I'm just kidding, trying

757
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 4: to get Ed McMahon on board. And look what we

758
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: got talent down here, Judy. They have like a boy

759
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 4: dance routine. No, they wanted her to help them put

760
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: together a video explaining how criminals think and how they

761
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: do the actual work of the robbery. And that meant

762
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 4: that she would explain how she picked houses and how

763
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: she jimmied open doors.

764
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: She was super into this a video for cops or

765
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: for people who live in miamis.

766
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: For cops wondering, it's like a peek into the mind.

767
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they wanted training videos well, and.

768
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 4: The video wound up being used not just locally but national.

769
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: Sure, it's like profile her type stuff where they're like,

770
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: here's how they think.

771
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: Well, this is what detect of lou Sessa said quote.

772
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: She'll be able to give us some information on what

773
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: to look for. It's always good to look at it

774
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: from both sides of the fence. It will school our

775
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 4: officers and patrol techniques and school us in teaching the

776
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: general public on crime prevention. And they get to hang

777
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: out with Judy, the lady burglar.

778
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah she's a woman at that could.

779
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: You believe it? So, her fingerprints were found at three

780
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 4: Burgley crime scenes, and after her arrest, she not only

781
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 4: agreed to help with the training video, but also agreed

782
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: to help the police solve other cases. So the Delray

783
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: Beach police drove her around town and she'd point out

784
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 4: the houses that she robbed, right, and then she'd tell

785
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: them exactly, you know, how she did it, all the details.

786
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 4: So she helped the cops clear twenty one cases, all

787
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: with the promise that she wouldn't be charged for those

788
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: twenty one cases, just so they could be like, okay,

789
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: we figured it out, get it off the books.

790
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 5: So she's like, look, i'll help you close your books

791
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 5: and you'll have a great closure rape and it'll be

792
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 5: like you don't get a charge.

793
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: Out of this, yeah, because they've already charged.

794
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well that's again.

795
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: This is how Sergeant Ross lookta, this is how he

796
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 4: explained it. That was part of the deal in bringing

797
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 4: her here. We didn't have anything to link her to

798
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: those cases, but we did have her fingerprints in the

799
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: three burglaries. So yeah, she's just closing them. And when

800
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 4: asked about life as a fugitive, Judy said, it wasn't

801
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: that hard. Most of the cops weren't that smart. She

802
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: always gets a bless I love that. So Tamasi, though

803
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: he had a better opinion.

804
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: Of Jude, she should have said something like they're not

805
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: too smart, I mean for men. Oh my god.

806
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 4: Yes, she missed her opportunity. So this is what Tamasi said. Quote.

807
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: She was very candid. The woman holds no animosity toward me.

808
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: She said she had a job to do, and I

809
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: had a job to do. She said, we got her

810
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: fair and square.

811
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: You still got the woman bit in there a little bit.

812
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: He cannot let that go.

813
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. On the day of her sentencing, the courtroom was

814
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: a buzz Okay, it was more than that was like festive.

815
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 4: This was the end of an era for a local legend.

816
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: Oh I bet. Yeah. That's like they're like like fun

817
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 3: robin Hood.

818
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: Really Yeah. She pled guilty to thirty charges, right, and

819
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: she got ten years in prison for her burglaries and

820
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: three years for having a gun during that one burglary

821
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: where she pulled it out with lady. She confessed to

822
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: over five hundred burglaries whoa, and she offered to return

823
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of stolen items

824
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: all right. In July of eighty seven, about one hundred

825
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 4: people showed up at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's office.

826
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: They were there to reclaim property that they believe Judy stole.

827
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: So Detective Sessa said, quote, she doesn't want any of

828
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: these cases to resurface after she is sentenced. She could

829
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 4: be recharged. She wants to do her time and get

830
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: out and hopefully straighten up her life. She's never done

831
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 4: any hard time before, so this hopefully will straighten her out.

832
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 4: That's so smart. Just get it all, wipe the slate.

833
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have.

834
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 4: Some sense of immunity going on, and well you know

835
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 4: that everyone loves you like they're treating me really well,

836
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: it's not lego. So during the sentencing, Judy like smiles

837
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: too much.

838
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: Didn't have somebody above her, or she could have flipped on.

839
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: She could have walked with no charges.

840
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: She had no one above her.

841
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 5: I know, that's the only thing is this lady. She

842
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: was on her own, which was a good move at

843
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 5: the time she was. But if she had that, I

844
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: bet she could have walked away totally.

845
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 4: C probably, but then that person would come after her.

846
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know she could manage it well.

847
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: So Judy during the sentencing, she's just cutting up with

848
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: the circuit Judge Tom Johnson. I mean they're just going

849
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 4: back and forth. And he said, come on, Judy, the

850
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: photographers want you to pose, because the cameras were all

851
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 4: clicking away, and then he asked Judy if she had

852
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 4: finished up the training video for the Sheriff's office, and

853
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: Judy said quote, yes, but I want to do it over.

854
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 4: My eye was swollen and I didn't take a good picture.

855
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 4: And so then Johnson says, did they let you dress up?

856
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 4: And Judy's like, yeah they did.

857
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, Judy, you could never take a bad picture.

858
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 4: So that Johnson congratulates Tomasi for his tenacity, and then

859
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: he asked them, quote, you gotta let Judy do the

860
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 4: film again with more makeup. It's ridiculous though, And then

861
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 4: as Judy's led away to begin her sentence, she tells

862
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: reporters that I feel fantastic. Yes, she feels great.

863
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: The Miami jumping out of all this courtroom scenes.

864
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 4: So Timasi does the math. He calculated up what Judy

865
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 4: stole and he estimated it at three to six million dollars.

866
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 5: I have to do, yeah, five hundred robberies in that area,

867
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 5: mostly hitting nice places. And she was upset about the

868
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: guy who told the cheap radio. So we know she's

869
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 5: not coming out with like totally anything little.

870
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just not small time. Tamasi said, quote, I

871
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: waited a long time for this. A case like this

872
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 4: might come along once in an officer's career.

873
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: And a woman at that and a woman at that.

874
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Speaker 4: But then look what I talked about at the top

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Speaker 4: of the episode. He had another lady burglar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Judy's mom back in Arkansas said quote, she changed

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Speaker 4: when she left here. She sure did. I guess citified

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Speaker 4: is what you'd call itified. Judy is one of a kind.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's something to be thankful for. Wow, cityfied,

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Speaker 4: I see where she gets the disc is. Judy got

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Speaker 4: out of jail in nineteen ninety. She only did three

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Speaker 4: years of the thirteen year sentence.

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Speaker 3: It was a non violent crime.

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Speaker 4: You where is she now?

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Speaker 3: Well, where is she now?

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Speaker 4: There's a bit now you tell me?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for not telling me yet.

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Speaker 4: As of last reporting, she's a home security consultant. So

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Speaker 4: she's she's a white.

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Speaker 3: Hat, white hat hacker burger okay.

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Speaker 4: I tried to find more follow up information on her

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Speaker 4: and I could. I tracked down her mother's obituary, okay,

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Speaker 4: which put Judy still alive in twenty fifteen, but going

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Speaker 4: by a different last name. So wherever she is, I

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Speaker 4: wish her godspeed, godspeed bandit of Boca del Mar. What's

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Speaker 4: your ridiculous takeaway?

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Speaker 3: Florida? Pretty much Florida.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know all honesty. Like I think I've

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Speaker 5: said this before. I have family in Florida. I used

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Speaker 5: to go there a lot when I was raised in Georgia.

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Speaker 5: It's somewhere I feel very comfortable. And at no point

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Speaker 5: do I look down on Florida. So I'm not one

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Speaker 5: of these people who's making fun of or wagging my

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Speaker 5: finger at Florida. I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with your

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Speaker 5: Florida and I'm saying it straight to your face. At

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Speaker 5: the same time, this play is wild. So the Florida

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Speaker 5: of it all like where you have like these old

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Speaker 5: people meeting up with all these like you know, recent

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Speaker 5: immigrants happy to like make it to America and become

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Speaker 5: really proud Americans. And then you have all these criminals

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Speaker 5: that are going this gives me a great place to

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Speaker 5: hide out. It's just amazing energy, just a chaos and

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Speaker 5: like they talk about, oh it's a melting pot, that's

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Speaker 5: where the melting pot bubbles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And what I like about Florida is that lady

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Speaker 4: executives are not an anomaly. You actually see them walking

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Speaker 4: around in the wild all the time.

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Speaker 3: Just there's so many you lose count.

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Speaker 5: You cannot count them, Elizabeth, it's just lady executive four

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Speaker 5: or five, real litter seventeen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have enough fingers for this.

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Speaker 4: And if you can believe it, I mean they're they're

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Speaker 4: driving cars.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I saw one using money.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy money.

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth, a lady professional and her husband wasn't even there.

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Speaker 4: I know, but you know what, that's it's one of

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Speaker 4: those special things about us.

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Speaker 3: That's I mean, Miami is a really progressive place with

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Speaker 3: the ladies, with.

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Speaker 4: The lady workers. That's us.

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Speaker 3: That's why I got very Ridiculously.

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Speaker 4: It's wonderful. You can find us online at Ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 4: dot com. Yeah, it's amazing, Like it's such a well

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Speaker 4: designed website. It's it's really I mean, we have technology

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Speaker 4: that we're using in that that other people don't have.

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Speaker 5: We had chat GBT five look at at GBT. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's it's it's the one that's on drugs. It's chat

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Speaker 5: GBT and it's looks. It's like, oh man, I'm into

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Speaker 5: this stuff. This is this is I love this website.

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Speaker 4: Well, the government was like, how did you design this?

943
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Speaker 4: And we were like, you know what, kick, we're not telling.

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Speaker 5: You so either Leonardo DiCaprio or Leonardo da Vinci did it,

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Speaker 5: but somebody cool because this is amazing art.

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Speaker 4: Leo dicapsis. There's T shirts I think on there, mugs.

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Speaker 4: I think you can buy a like a racehorse you

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Speaker 4: said yeah, eight.

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Speaker 5: By eleven glosses of Ricardo Mantabon, Oh wow, lots of Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They may be out, they may they may have run out,

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Speaker 4: sold out, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: And the racehorse, uh, he's he's doing well, but buy

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Speaker 3: him soon.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: And there's like the motorcycle jacket from the George Michael

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Speaker 4: Faith video for sale, but at my also be sold out.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I've been on there, and I.

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Speaker 5: Think we have also a glimpse at the smirk that

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Speaker 5: Prince gave it the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert.

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Speaker 4: And the guitar that he threw up. And then we don't.

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Speaker 4: It's on the website. It's so cool. We're at Ridiculous

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Speaker 4: Crime on both Twitter and Instagram. Don't email us at

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