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Speaker 1: Smell us.

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Speaker 2: Now, lady, welcome to Meet Eater Trivia, the Metater Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to me Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.

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Speaker 2: That's one pm for our friends in Kalamazoo, Michigan, on

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Speaker 2: Thursday May twenty second, exactly one week before my forty

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Speaker 2: seventh birthday. Okay, yeah, I'm fresh out of a yoga studio.

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Speaker 2: But right now we're live for me Eater World headquarters

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Speaker 2: in Bozeman. I'm your host, Yanisma tell Us, and today

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by Brody Henderson and Corey Caulkins. On today's show,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna chat mountain lions with my friend Mart George.

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Speaker 2: We're trying a new segment called gear Talk, where we

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Speaker 2: talk about equipment we love. We'll pause for listener feedback,

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Speaker 2: so get those questions coming in the chat. We each

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Speaker 2: brought in a special item that will share and show

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Speaker 2: and tell. We might have a conversation with fishing guy

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Speaker 2: Josh Miller and his Lucky Fishing Charm and Turkey co

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Speaker 2: Captain Ryder. I don't know if I pronounced that right.

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Speaker 2: It's got kind of a funny spelling. We'll discuss haircuts

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Speaker 2: as well, but first we're going to tell hunting stories.

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Speaker 2: Corey Brody. Great to see you, fellas. Corey, do you

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Speaker 2: smell that updog?

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Speaker 3: You know we had about a dozen hot dogs in

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Speaker 3: here last week? Is that the updog you're referring to?

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Speaker 2: What's up dog? Is the answer to my question?

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Speaker 3: Oh what's up dog?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, not much.

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Speaker 2: Gay For those of you listening in at home, These

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Speaker 2: boys thought that joke would really land with you guys,

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Speaker 2: So I hope you're all giggling.

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Speaker 4: That wasn't my joke. That was Corey's joke.

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Speaker 3: Ori and Phil, Hey, this is your script. Just remember that.

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Speaker 2: I'm owning it. I'm gonna own it. It does smell.

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Speaker 2: I'm not smelling it, but you guys are saying you

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Speaker 2: smell hot dogs because a week ago Randall was in

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Speaker 2: here pounding hot dogs. Did anybody else have any I

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Speaker 2: had one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Phil had one. I think Lake and Tony Peterson

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Speaker 3: had one. It was dog week, so we celebrated four

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Speaker 3: legged dogs and the food variety hot dogs, the Wiener dog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of sorry I missed out on that.

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Speaker 3: You should have been here. Yeah, we had some steamed

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Speaker 3: buns and some hot mustard.

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Speaker 2: Super tasty hot mustard as in spicy or warmed up.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was warmed up when you put it on

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Speaker 3: the hot dog.

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Speaker 4: I like sweet hot mustard.

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Speaker 2: We recently at Turkey Camp had Olympia provisions frankfurter. Those jokers.

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Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I didn't measure them, but they're over

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Speaker 2: a foot long. It says right on the package. More

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Speaker 2: meat than your bunk can handle.

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Speaker 4: Wow, So did you double bottom?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I cut him in half and went went to two

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Speaker 2: francs in one.

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Speaker 4: Bun, cook him on sticks or on a stove, a stove.

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Speaker 2: Top yep, yep. Just made it quick and easy and

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Speaker 2: got everybody fed. But yeah, extremely tasty frankfurt. They also

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Speaker 2: make this sausage become fond of. It's a I don't know,

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Speaker 2: pretty plain Jane pork sausage, but it stuff. It's got

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Speaker 2: some chunks of Swiss cheese in it, and then smoked

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Speaker 2: just a little bit delicious. Wow. So kind of Olympia prevision.

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Speaker 2: Like a cheddar brought, or like a cheddar brought but

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Speaker 2: upscale up high end, yes, no high tempt cheese in there, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where can you find these?

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Speaker 2: It's legit. I believe you can get them. I know

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Speaker 2: for sure because the owner was telling me that he

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Speaker 2: recently got into Whole Foods, which he was very happy about.

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Speaker 2: But I think you can get him all over the place.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Olympia Provisions. Check it out. Yeah, it's Memorial weekend.

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Speaker 2: Go get your hot Oh yeah, there you go. You

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Speaker 2: want to try something different than just the old Oscar

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Speaker 2: Meyer hunt stories. Who wants to go first?

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Speaker 4: Well, you're you're up first. It looks like, oh well,

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Speaker 4: unless you want to be like the big Finally, I'm happy.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I got it. I got a couple of dandies.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with this one. Have you guys ever

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Speaker 2: heard Steven Ranella blow on a crow call?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's not I know where you're going with this.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's trying to sound like a crow

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Speaker 4: He's just trying to make a bunch of like irritating noise.

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Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent right. I know this as well.

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Speaker 2: I've always been like right next to him, right when

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Speaker 2: know it doesn't sound like a crow call, but it

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Speaker 2: that works. Okay, this is what happened this weekend though.

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Speaker 2: Maybe and my youngest are out, get on a bird

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Speaker 2: We're like peeking over these little hills. I can see them.

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Speaker 2: They're in this giant medal. So we're kind of pinned,

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Speaker 2: And Maybel don't care if we call the bird in

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Speaker 2: at Maybe like, what the hell was that?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: She's like, I don't know. And a couple of minutes

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Speaker 3: Woe wee.

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Speaker 5: I go, oh, that's someone like replicating Stephen Ranella's or

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Speaker 5: Steve's call. I doubt I think he was in Alaska,

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Speaker 5: but I'm like, it was very startling to me. Well,

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Speaker 5: sure enough, we're like watching these turkeys and all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden, those turkeys are like doing this.

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Speaker 4: How close was it, like, did it sound like that

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Speaker 2: No, because we eventually saw him. So basically, there was

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Speaker 4: But he was after the same birds.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't know if he was because he was

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Speaker 2: shot calling, yeah right, so I don't know if he knew.

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Speaker 2: He had probably heard those birds from a distance and

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Speaker 2: relocate him. Again, I don't know for sure if these

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Speaker 2: turkeys saw the guy, because not long after we saw

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Speaker 2: it across the ridge trying to catch him, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: He ain't gonna catch a turkey after you spook him,

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Speaker 2: you know. But I'd always agree with Steve, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're probably right, You're just making a loud noise, you'd

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Speaker 2: get a shock gobble. Great, these turkeys might have had

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Speaker 2: an adverse reaction to that sound, sure, because they definitely

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Speaker 2: their heads popped up and they were like, what's up,

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Speaker 2: I don't know at what point they saw the dude,

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Speaker 2: or if they saw the dude, but it didn't last

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Speaker 2: much longer, and Mabel had her first experience of what

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Speaker 2: it's like hunting public lane when it doesn't go right.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of it'd be interesting to know if the

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Speaker 4: noise is what spooked him. I was in Pennsylvania a

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Speaker 4: couple of years ago turkey hunting, and we were hunting

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Speaker 4: some other dudes hunting the next property over, and first

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Speaker 4: and I was cutting loose with a coyote call, and

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Speaker 4: He's like, we don't use those to shut like he

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Speaker 4: was pissed that I was using a coyote Howler, which

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Speaker 4: I've always had like excellent results with, Like before fly down,

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Speaker 4: He's like that just scares the turkeys. Like I don't know,

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Speaker 4: it's worked pretty good for me in the past. But

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Speaker 4: maybe a noise could, you know, an adverse noise could

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I was hoping you were going to say, after you

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Speaker 3: heard that noise that you looked over and saw a

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Speaker 3: blue jay or something actually making the noise.

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Speaker 2: I wish. Yeah, No, it was. It was startling and

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Speaker 2: it was definitely out of place. It just took me

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Speaker 3: Well, did you guys get any birds? Then after that mishap.

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Speaker 2: Mabel did not. We end up we moved spots and

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Speaker 2: did a not a big loop, not a power loop,

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Speaker 2: loop and eleven year old, I think she's stuck with

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Speaker 2: me for like seven miles oh a pound in the

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Speaker 2: ground and making lots of crow calls and loud yelps

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Speaker 2: with no zero responses. We had some crappy weather. Some

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Speaker 2: wind makes it tough, you know, anytimes sun's out, guns

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Speaker 2: playing ball, and it's nice they're playing ball. When it ain't. Sure,

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Speaker 2: you can still kill them, but it's just it's not

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Speaker 2: as much fun. It's not as easy, for sure. So

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Speaker 2: we ended up killing uh, I don't know. We killed

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Speaker 2: Aina killed the tom at a different location on the

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Speaker 2: way out there Thursday morning, and I doubled up on Jake's.

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Speaker 2: My wife doubled up on Jake. She and I were together.

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Speaker 2: She shot one. The rest of them were staying around,

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Speaker 2: and she looks at me. I'm like, yeah, shoot another one.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah. When a gang of them comes in and

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Speaker 4: you're holding two tags.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. A couple guys on Instagram, you know,

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Speaker 2: had to say something about because I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: tom's are hard to find. So I was happy that

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Speaker 2: when we shot these jakes and they're like, well, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: wonder there's toms are hard to find when you're pounding

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Speaker 2: the jakes.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: Certainly there is some truth to that, but also hunting

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Speaker 2: public land, it's like and all the other things that

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Speaker 2: love to eat turkeys. Right, it's hard to say that

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Speaker 2: if us killing two jakes would have equalled more jakes

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Speaker 2: next year, or if it's gonna be the or sorry

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Speaker 2: more Tom's next year, or if it's gonna be the

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Speaker 2: same amount. Certainly there would have been two more that

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Speaker 2: maybe would have made it. But we all know that.

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Speaker 2: You know, what are the chances that turkey makes it

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Speaker 2: from egg to two year old gobbler? It's like one

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Speaker 2: in fifty or something crazy like them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I get it, like the not killing Jake.

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Speaker 4: Things like maybe back east where there's just a lot

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Speaker 4: more hunters and a lot more hunting pressure, and some

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Speaker 4: of those turkey populations are yeah, on their way down.

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Speaker 4: But it's just a different situation out here.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Yeah, Brent Reeves tell you it's sacrilege,

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Speaker 2: you know, do it down there. They just will not

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Speaker 2: shoot jakes unless you're a kid where it's your first

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Speaker 2: time hunt hunt. And the way I'm looking at it,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that's turkey schnitzel walking around on today, and.

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Speaker 4: It's still like you're taking whether it's a gobbler or jake,

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, Well you can shoot hens in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything was bushwhacked, didn't call in nothing in Montana.

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Speaker 4: Listen, this is I've been wanting to have this conversation

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Speaker 2: A while, Like, what's happened?

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Speaker 6: I had a drop for this.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, it's like there are there's a certain contingent

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Speaker 4: like the purity of calling them in. I get it,

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Speaker 4: But if you've ever tried to, like stock a turkey,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you that half the people that look down

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Speaker 4: Way harder than stocking a spot in stock rifle, hunt

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, try stocking an eagle in the tree.

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Speaker 3: They got the same eye sight.

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Speaker 2: look over and go, oh I just saw Corey Kulkin

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Speaker 2: skyline himself. He just sees like some hat brim Yeah,

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Speaker 2: move ninety degrees and he goes, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: I probably started at five. Now it's noon. I'm heading

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Speaker 2: I'm set up on this I set up on this

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Speaker 2: Definitely not fifteen yards away, maybe closer to ten. It's

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, it'd be better to hide in

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Speaker 2: and there's two birds, like right, gobble on top of

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Speaker 2: can hear him walking. That's one of the beautiful things

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Speaker 2: when they're on those dry, crunchy oak leaves, you can

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Speaker 2: just hear them coming. I can taste the schnitzel at

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Speaker 2: I was just enjoying the show. I guess. Well, where

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Speaker 2: But there's two birds, so I'm thinking, well, no big deal,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna track through that tree. When he pops

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Speaker 2: story is like, take your first I wasn't in like

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Speaker 2: you go. It was bad. Like my stomach. I haven't

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Speaker 2: my was This wasn't what I'm trying to say, like

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Speaker 2: the you know when you get that pit feeling in

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Speaker 3: And say, my stomach falls out of itself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Like I haven't had that that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some of them that I muffed it. It's good

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's good to be humbled. That's why I love

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little a little while back, I was out

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Speaker 4: wam three gobbles. I'm like, okay, I kind of know

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Speaker 2: So we set up.

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Speaker 4: It was probably I don't know, it was more than

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Speaker 2: I called.

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Speaker 4: They weren't getting any closer. We ended up sitting in

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Speaker 4: screw it, We're gonna walk just to warm up and

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Speaker 2: But then I see Hayden gun.

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Speaker 4: I see Hayden like shift his gun this way, and

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Speaker 4: I see that hen's.

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Speaker 2: Head popped up.

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Speaker 4: I was like, don't shoot, that's a hen. She ends

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Speaker 4: on him. Immediately after he shoots, we hear three gobbles

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Speaker 4: also in range, like right from where that hen came from.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, can you see him?

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Speaker 6: Can you see him?

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Speaker 4: Can you see him? And finally it's like I see him.

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Speaker 4: And they get in decoys and do the little dance

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Speaker 4: Nice you had three gobblers in one morning, well one gobbler,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So I'm guilty of walking too much when

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Speaker 2: it's a Turkey season for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Last weekend of the season this weekend here in Montana.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take my younger kid. We're going camping,

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Speaker 2: Good. So, so he hasn't been out at all, just

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Speaker 2: timing man sports and whatnots. Yeah, yeah, priorities.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in town and country the other day,

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Speaker 3: I went up and smacked him. He was frozen. So

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Speaker 6: My congrats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't buy him, but I could have could

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Speaker 2: Tagged that one.

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Speaker 3: But I've been bear hunting.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you've been bear hunting. Yeah. How many days did

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Speaker 3: It was pretty quick this year. Only three. Typically I

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: But I went the last week of April, spotted a

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Speaker 2: Two miles from where you first inspired him, or two

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Speaker 3: About two miles from where I first spotted him. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I glassed him up two miles away, what I'm trying

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Speaker 3: He spooked him, I did me, Yeah, yeah, I was

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Speaker 3: And I watched this guy cruise probably a solid half

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Speaker 3: a mile, and he luckily stopped in the drainage that

433
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: I last watched him go into.

434
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 4: But you couldn't see him until you were on top

435
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 4: of it.

436
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he went into this stick not super thick,

437
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: but thick enough to where I couldn't see him until

438
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: I was on him and got up into this into

439
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 3: the drainage that he was in, and figured he had

440
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: left because I didn't see him. I was about to

441
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 3: set up in predator call and I heard a stick

442
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 3: pop right below me and then just saw a flash

443
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: of black probably that was probably forty yards away, and

444
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: then he would I could tell he was running away

445
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: and there was this little gap between some a tree

446
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: and a cliff, and I shot him right through that

447
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: little gap, probably about ninety yards.

448
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: Could was he full on hauling ass or fast.

449
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: As he could go? He's a he had a big

450
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: butt on him, so he couldn't go very fast.

451
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean embarrassed that. You know they do thirty forty

452
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: miles an hour.

453
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy, like I could tell by the way

454
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 3: he was running, was huge. And I knew he was

455
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 3: big when I saw him from miles away, like I

456
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: wanted to kill him. I could tell it was a

457
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: bore from that far away.

458
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 2: Uh.

459
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: And I saw him the night before.

460
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 2: And did he have to leave it?

461
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: No, it was so close that I just put it

462
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 3: right behind the shoulder and that's where it went.

463
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 4: Did you bring in a picture of him?

464
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 3: No, I didn't, got it up on my Instagram.

465
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: I saw them Seaman Calkins great big nogging on him.

466
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

467
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that looked like it looked like a bandy.

468
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

469
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: I'm tickled his skull. I mean it hasn't had time

470
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 3: to you know, do the the green scored the skull

471
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: at twenty inches.

472
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 4: So which is being seen minimum mm hmm.

473
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 3: So it might shrink under that again, we'll see. But yeah,

474
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: got the hide in the freezer, fat in chunks, ready

475
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: to render. Meets in the freezer, feeling good.

476
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: Nice. What are you gonna do with the hide?

477
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 3: I'd like to get a rug made, but we'll see.

478
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to save up a couple of paychecks

479
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 3: for that one.

480
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: Dude. It's not cheap, I know.

481
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

482
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to say I'm going on a guaranteed hunt.

483
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: But the outfitter that I'm going with next week in Manitoba,

484
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: he's texting me, I think two days in a row

485
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: and one days, like we killed four last night And

486
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 2: the next day he's like, we killed five last night.

487
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, on is that like you forgot about

488
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: one and that was from two nights ago, or you

489
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: guys killed nine bears in two days. It's like, oh yeah,

490
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: we got nine and two days. And then he just

491
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: like lists all of the numbers baited. You know in Manitoba.

492
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: Sounds like there's a lot of bears there, so not

493
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: guaranteed but high probability. Yeah, I'm not looking forward to

494
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: the rug bill.

495
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big one I've got.

496
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 2: I think I'm just gonna tan it and just hang it.

497
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: It depends on how big.

498
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 4: I was just talking about this man, like that's what

499
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 4: I did with my first bear, which was a giant,

500
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 4: And for two years I just looked at that tan

501
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 4: thing hanging there, just like wishing I had gotten a

502
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 4: rug maid and then I had a rug made out

503
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 4: of it.

504
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they have a big old noggin, I mean,

505
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: I feel like it's worth foaming that out just so

506
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: you can relive that.

507
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: Did it cost you any less or more when you

508
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: got a taxi? It'll cost you a few.

509
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 4: Hundred less if you get it tanned first, because otherwise

510
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 4: they got to send it off to get tanned before

511
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: they make the rug.

512
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't. I wanted to sit right on

513
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: the floor in front of my wood right would burn

514
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: and stove, and I don't really have that set up

515
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: yet for it, so I don't. I don't need the

516
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: rug right now.

517
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what kind of bear you get. See

518
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 3: how big his head is first. That's exciting, though, that's.

519
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: Some newspaper up in that head. After you get oh yeah,

520
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: there you.

521
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: Go, all right? Do we need to move on, Phil,

522
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: I think it's time. All right. Well those were good

523
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: hunting stories, fellas, Thank you, all right? Next, Oh, catch

524
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: Crayfish Counting the Stars is now available in paperback.

525
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 4: Right here here it is.

526
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: Why does it take take them like two years to

527
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: decide to put something out in paperback? So the time.

528
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 4: Varies, but it's the decision that the publisher makes based on,

529
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 4: you know, when they think the timing is right for

530
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: a paperback.

531
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: But obviously it's based on probably on sales of the

532
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: sure art cover too, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's

533
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 2: done well enough enough to release it in paperback.

534
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, So it's out now. Lots of cool activities

535
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 4: in there for for your kids, outdoor activities, Corey, what's

536
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 4: your what's your favorite one in there?

537
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: Man?

538
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: There's a lot of good stuff in here, but how

539
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: many of you actually done with your kid?

540
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: Man Marshall, To.

541
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: Be honest, I haven't looked through the whole book. I

542
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: this is one of those where you could just like

543
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 3: flip to a page, yeah, and then you know, like

544
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: find the the most recent chapter that they're talking about

545
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 3: and just go from there. Like a couple of winters ago.

546
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: We flipped to the make your own aquarium, and we

547
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 3: did that, caught a little uh really perch from a

548
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: local pond and maybe threw them in there find an antler.

549
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: That's pretty fun to do this the time of year.

550
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: But I flipped to go rock hounting, and we're gonna

551
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: go look for some quartz and agates this weekend.

552
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: Oh nice.

553
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: It kind of just spun off reading this book. Great

554
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 3: ideas in there.

555
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's easy to do right there. Go for

556
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: a walk and pick some rocks. Oh, easy peasy. You'll

557
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: go for just those two rocks. But your kid will

558
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: come back with a box of rocks. Oh, it could

559
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: just be gravel. Yeah.

560
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: I've had to rewild some rocks recently.

561
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: Oh, I do all the time. Yeah, because my wife's

562
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: my wife is bad about it. The kids are kind

563
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: of like e but my wife like will not let

564
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: a piece of pet trified would stay on the banks

565
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: of the yellows. It's coming home for sure.

566
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm be honest. What's your what's your favorite one?

567
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I haven't done many, uh, but I

568
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: did do one before the book was out, and then

569
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: wrote the the little how to to Do It, which

570
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: was to build a PVC bow, which is an idea

571
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: I think I got from Jimmy Miller. But uh, yeah, man,

572
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: it's super easy. And uh, you still need to make

573
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: some arrow Is there how to make some arrows? Along

574
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: with the.

575
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: No, we didn't go that far. That's that's getting serious.

576
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you gotta have we I just used old

577
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: hunting arrows of mine. But you just take a chunk

578
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: of PVC and some string and cut some notches in

579
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: the PVC and use some tape for a little handle

580
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: in a in a arrow rest and uh, you got

581
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: yourself a bow that Uh my kids they ran around

582
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: in Princess.

583
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: I remember when they were little running around. Yeah, yeah,

584
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 4: just flinging those bars all around. See an arrow.

585
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta gotta wear a helmet in the backyard.

586
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: What about what's you? What's your?

587
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: There's a couple in there that I'm partial to. The

588
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: track and animal and the read animal sign one. I

589
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: think that teaches kids a lot, like looking at poop,

590
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: looking at whatever hair, feathers, whatever they can find, you know,

591
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: maybe it's a snake skin on the ground. Like I

592
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 4: just think kids are like naturally, Like the biophilia thing

593
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: is like just built into them. So like, those are

594
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: a couple of activities that play into that that I

595
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: like a lot, and it's going to teach them to

596
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: be a better hunter, you know. But there's I don't know,

597
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: seventy five more activities in there, like everything from gardening

598
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: to fishing to like history, there's all kinds.

599
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Of All the kids that I know that have that

600
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: book love it. Yep, yeah, absolute, I love it.

601
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, such a great one to just throw in the

602
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: camper in the back of the truck if you're even

603
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: just going to a local parks. So many activities in there, Yeah,

604
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: you wouldn't just think about Yep.

605
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: All right. This kind of ties it together with activities

606
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: for kids, getting kids into hunting, and also Mabel's turkey

607
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: because she didn't get a turkey when we were out

608
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: on our big trip, but she did kill a Yanni's

609
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: ranch bird the other night. Oh that's been causing some

610
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: strife and actually Jennifer's not home, my wife. But when

611
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: we told her, she's like, I told you guys not

612
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: to kill that bird. And we're like, did you We

613
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: thought you just said like you didn't want us to

614
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: kill that bird. You didn't say you can't kill that bird.

615
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: We tried to kill him two other days, one time

616
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: in the evening, and he stayed over the roll and

617
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: then he just kept gobbling. And finally I'm like, did

618
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: he roost? And I went and peeked over the hill,

619
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: and sure enough he's in the tree. So the next morning,

620
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: my oldest and I we get up at five am

621
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: and I got her sitting on the deck like in

622
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: the dark, waiting for it to get light. Well I

623
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: didn't cause I dropped back to call a little bit,

624
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: so I didn't see. But the gobbler was in plain

625
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: view of a them, and so of course, like it

626
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: was doomed from the beginning because even uh, I don't know.

627
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: Jennifer's like, you guys are killing a half domesticated bird.

628
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, kind of like this person doesn't live

629
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: in suburbia, like everybody around us lives on ten to

630
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: forty acres or something. There's coyotes around, there's foxes around.

631
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: Wolves.

632
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: Sure you know these are not quite I mean sure

633
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: other people feeding them. Yes. Well, anyways, the other evening

634
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: we could hear him goblin across the way. I told Mabel,

635
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: I said, just go out there, and every thirty minutes.

636
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: Just give a couple of strokes on the box call

637
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: he'd answer. And then after dinner, Mabel's like, that's probably

638
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: getting too late.

639
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

640
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you're probably too late, but just keep

641
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: listening and looking. And we're cleaning up and a looks

642
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: out the window. He's right there, you know. Oh like

643
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: oh boy. So anyways, we go out there. It doesn't

644
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: take much, make a few calls, peek around the corner

645
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: of the garage, kill him. And uh. Maybe she's very

646
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: aware that it's like a different hunt than what we

647
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 2: were just experiencing on our Turkey camp trip. But it's

648
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: not what I want to talk about. What I want

649
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: to talk about is that she's very skittish around gutting

650
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: and the processing. My oldest one. I'll put her up

651
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: against anybody in this office. She might not be as

652
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: fast as you, but if you could give her a

653
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: whole deer and she could process it. At this point,

654
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: at the age of thirteen, she's good at it. She

655
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: enjoys it. Maybe on the other hand, like sticking her

656
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: hands up in that turkey's cavity and pulling those guts out,

657
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: fighting it, fighting it. So my question is of core.

658
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: You haven't gotten there. You're gonna have to deal with

659
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: this at some point. But like, for kids that like

660
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: to kill stuff, do you force them if they're not

661
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: into dealing with guts and processing, do you force them

662
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: to do it anyways, because that's part of the deal.

663
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't. It hasn't been a problem with

664
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: my boys. If anything, they're like curious about it. They're

665
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: like interested in it. You know, with fish, they want

666
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: to see what's in the stomach, they want to see

667
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 4: what's in the crop. I mean, forcing a kid to

668
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: do something is maybe not ideal, but you should at

669
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: least I think you got to get him involved in

670
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: some of the steps, right. But yeah, I mean i'd

671
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: lean towards like you killed it, you're cleaning it.

672
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: Well, because it used to be just like you kill it,

673
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: you eat it, right. Yeah, that's like the original version

674
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: of this. And then I think sort of as because

675
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: I know Steve would just bring me home to his mom,

676
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: and his mom would kind of prepare it and then

677
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: they would eat it, right. I think that's kind of morphed.

678
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: As we've become parents to we're like we're like, oh no,

679
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: there's this other thing too, like you need to be

680
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: involved in the whole process, right, because we want them

681
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: to be. But what I'm scared of is if I

682
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: force it too much, then she she's gonna be like,

683
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: screw it, I don't even kill a turkey. I'll go

684
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: play volleyball.

685
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, maybe you try doing it in steps, man,

686
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: Like will she cut the breast off the carcass or.

687
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: She's yeah, man, she's not huge into any of that stuff.

688
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: Once it's in the bag and I ask her to

689
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: run the seiler, yeah she'll do that. I mean, I

690
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: guess if I was in that situation, I'd rather like

691
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: and worried about that you're gonna turn her off a

692
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: hunting all together.

693
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: I'd rather have her go hunting with me and not

694
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 4: do it and force her to do it and then

695
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: she doesn't want to go hunting, you know what I mean?

696
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: Totally.

697
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

698
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: My kid was with me on a turkey hunt last year,

699
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: and it was pretty funny because I'm like, all right,

700
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: now I got to gut this thing, and he's like,

701
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: oh gross, and started walking towards the truck and then

702
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: he like stopped and wanted to watch and got very

703
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: curious about halfway through and the next thing, you know,

704
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: he's like looking up into the turkey and wanting to

705
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: get his hands dirty and so that I never.

706
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 4: Went through that gross thing.

707
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: Man, It's just like a lot of curiosity.

708
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got one in one kind of

709
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: hung out with the turkey's guts for thirty minutes, and

710
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: I was sort of heading towards the sauna and she

711
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: was running around the side of the house with like

712
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: different pieces. What's this? Then she'd come back, what's this?

713
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Come back? She took like fifty pictures. Yeah, she doesn't

714
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: mind getting getting in there.

715
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned fish. That's a great starting point. I

716
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: feel like something about fish and the lack of eyebrows

717
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: that maybe or eyelashes.

718
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 4: May smell really bad.

719
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: Boy do they ever?

720
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: Uh?

721
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna do a We're gonna request that you guys,

722
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: the listeners. We're gonna do a listener hot tip off showdown,

723
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: So we want you guys to send in a hot tip.

724
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna play it next week. If I was here,

725
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: i'd host it on this show on my birthday. But

726
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in Manitoba hopefully looking over a bunch

727
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: of bears eating donuts and maple syrup. Ah, but Brody

728
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: wants hot tips for taking kids hunting, fishing, camping, that

729
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: sort of stuff because we're celebrating the paperback release of

730
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: Catch Crayfish count Stars. Yeah, what do you want to

731
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: add to that.

732
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: Brody, Well, we'll take all everyone's gonna send us all

733
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 4: those parents out there. It doesn't have to be from parents,

734
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: but I imagine the bulk of it will be from parents.

735
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: But I think if your kid has a hot tips too,

736
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: coming straight from the source and them to it.

737
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, But anyway, we'll we'll look through everything we got.

738
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: We're gonna take the three what we think are three

739
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: of the best ones. Then in next week's show, the

740
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: hosts are gonna vote.

741
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: On the winner.

742
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: Now, the three finalists that are gonna compete will all

743
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 4: get a copy of the book, the paperback copy, and

744
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 4: then the winner will get this bad boy knife here.

745
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: You want to pull it out and show.

746
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: It, Yeah to the super sharp MKC.

747
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: Maybe like, if you give that knife to your kid,

748
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 4: be awful careful with it.

749
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, guaranteed you're gonna need some band aids. So if

750
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: you're the lucky winner, you're gonna give that let your kid,

751
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: mess with it, get yourself some band aids ahead of time.

752
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: This is the Montana Knife Company flat Tail yep, little

753
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: collab we did with m great do it all hunt night.

754
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 4: So like sixty to ninety is a long hot tip video.

755
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 4: Keep it says SYNCD folks like sixty seconds is ideal

756
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 4: and then just send that. Send your videos to radio

757
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 4: at the meeteater dot com. That's that's the right address.

758
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: Scord, Yes, sir, and.

759
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: We'll vote on him next week.

760
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: Send it.

761
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: That'll be fun radio at themeeteater dot com. All right,

762
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: now on to our first guest, Bart George joining us today.

763
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: He's the wildlife program director for the Cowspell Tribe. Bart,

764
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. If meat Eater has a mountain

765
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: lion expert, Bart is it. We filmed Idaho Mountain Lion

766
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: in season seven of meat Eater with Bart. Bart's been

767
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: on several metater podcast episodes. There's a great one where

768
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: he tells the story of almost losing one of his

769
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: hounds and having himself having a very close encounter with

770
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: the mountain lion. You should go. I can't. I couldn't

771
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: find the episode number, sorry, but search around meter podcast

772
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: you can find it. Maybe Choreo'll find it now. And

773
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: he was also on a On the Hunt episode with

774
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: Yours Truly where I followed along as Bar performed the

775
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: research that we're going to talk about today. Bar.

776
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: How are you, I'm well, yeah, thanks for having me.

777
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome. All right. Explain like where the study

778
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: came from, how was built, how is how is it executed?

779
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: But save the results here for a minute.

780
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, of course. So, like you mentioned, I worked

781
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 7: for the Callispell Tribe. I'm also a hound handler in

782
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 7: northeast Washington. I keep dogs and have for don't know

783
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 7: fifteen or so years here the state of Washington. You know,

784
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 7: hound hunting is illegal here, so there's not a lot

785
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 7: of people with dogs. So when they're you know, when

786
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 7: cougars get in trouble, typically it's with pets or small

787
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 7: livestock in our area. The state has a pool of

788
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 7: folks that they'll call to come out and deal with

789
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 7: that situation. Typically it's treat that cat and if it's

790
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 7: killed something, the state kills it. So Bruce, who's also

791
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 7: on that episode, both the episodes of My kind of

792
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 7: My Hunting Partner mentor whatever, he and I have been

793
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 7: doing this for quite a while, you know, fifteen years,

794
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 7: we're getting these calls from the state every you know,

795
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 7: once a month or something like that, until about twenty

796
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 7: eighteen and nineteen.

797
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: It really picked up. And I don't know what the

798
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: change was.

799
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 7: We didn't we have no way of really knowing that,

800
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 7: but we started seeing a real increase in depredations. And

801
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 7: you know, when there's a depredation, we go out, catch

802
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 7: that cat, kill it, and it becomes property of the

803
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 7: state and typically it's discarded. So you know, as a

804
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 7: as a hunter, as a tribal representative, whatever, its kind

805
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 7: of goes against what we all stand for. To see,

806
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 7: it's such a cool charismatic you know, species and carcass

807
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 7: just get pitched in the dumpster. So Bruce and I

808
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 7: kind of started brainstorm of kind come up with a

809
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 7: way to to have some sort of proactive response for

810
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 7: the state. So when you know, a real common narrative

811
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 7: when we were at these depredations, you know, we'd be

812
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 7: talking to the farmer or the operator and say, yeah,

813
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 7: you know, this cat was hanging around a week ago

814
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 7: on my neighbor's place and then I got a you know,

815
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 7: trail camera picture of it or I got to ring

816
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 7: doorbell picture of it or whatever a couple of days ago,

817
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 7: and it hadn't caused any trouble. But now here it

818
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 7: you know, killed lamas or pets or whatever. So we

819
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 7: kept here, you know, we heard that a lot, and

820
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 7: we got to thinking, like, what if we'd been out

821
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 7: here a week ago when it first showed up and

822
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 7: and chased that cat off, would it have still hung

823
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 7: around and killed something.

824
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: Or would it have you know, left the area or

825
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: we don't. We didn't know. So he's kind of started

826
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: brainstorm and working.

827
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 7: With the WFW enforcement crew that we're you know, we're

828
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 7: working with all the time, and we came up with

829
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 7: this idea to our hat in the cat, but we

830
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 7: didn't really know what that looks like yet, and we

831
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 7: didn't have the technology to do it. And I'll get

832
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 7: into that a little bit in the In the episode,

833
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 7: you kind of get us to see what we're doing

834
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 7: with the callers and different things. So I was buying

835
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 7: some callers from buddy up there at w Pounce of play.

836
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 7: He's really he's a tech guy, you know, he's like

837
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 7: an engineering background. He's into that kind of stuff more

838
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 7: than I am, for sure, And he came up with

839
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 7: this idea to develop the sleep mode on our garment callers.

840
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 7: So then I could put a collar on a cat.

841
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 7: That picture you got up as actually the largest cougar

842
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 7: ever collared that we know of. He's one hundred and

843
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 7: ninety seven pounds.

844
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Man cat we caught right here nodding. He's a whopper man.

845
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: He's big. That was for the state of Washington. We

846
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: called that cat for.

847
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 7: Them on their Predator Prey project.

848
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: That's what that's what an almost two hundred pounder looks like.

849
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could see the folds in his arm. How

850
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,959
Speaker 3: much fat he's got just up around his neck.

851
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: Wow.

852
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, if he'd have taken a couple more bites, he'd

853
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 7: have tipped the two hundred pound mark. Anyways, So working

854
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 7: with Buddy and he came up with this idea for

855
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 7: a sleep mode on a garment caller. So the survey caller,

856
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 7: you know, was the typical wildlife caller. It's big, kind

857
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 7: of clunky. Things got a long battery life though, four

858
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 7: years of battery life if it's programmed properly. But but

859
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 7: the garment callers, you know, you only get a couple

860
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 7: of days out of those.

861
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: With the dogs.

862
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 7: So we needed a way to get real time data

863
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 7: from a cat, but have it long last long enough

864
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 7: that we could you know, revisit this thing, you know,

865
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 7: for five or six weeks. So the sleep mode that

866
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 7: that Garment developed with Buddy self kind of made that possible.

867
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 7: So we were able then to couple like a regular

868
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 7: dog tracking collar onto our regular survey caller and uh.

869
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: And then revisit that.

870
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 7: Cat, you know, periodically and see how it's responding to

871
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 7: our hazing.

872
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: So that's that was kind of the next to the thing.

873
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 7: Then we needed to come up with a stimuli, and

874
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 7: we kicked that idea around and you know, in a

875
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 7: perfect world, we'd have had a whole bunch of time

876
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 7: and a bunch of folks helping and a big budget

877
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 7: and everything, and we would have tested a whole bunch

878
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 7: of different stimuli. But we settled on human voice just

879
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 7: because for you know, public safety hiking, for people yelling

880
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 7: at a cat to you know, move it along, or

881
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 7: whatever else. We just thought human voice made the most sense.

882
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 7: But I would have liked to test it, you know,

883
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 7: dogs barking or an engine or car horn honking or

884
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 7: whatever as the stimuli. So the stimuli that we settled

885
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 7: on was Meat Eater podcasts. It works nicely and you

886
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 7: guys have big, loud voices and everything else, and yet

887
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 7: there's not a lot of dead time in it. Other

888
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 7: podcasts with like long gaps and people like ruminating silently,

889
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 7: that doesn't we wanted. We wanted constant talking.

890
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: So you're saying, this is a crew of talkers we

891
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: have here.

892
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, Man, when Steve gets going, he doesn't stop, he

893
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 7: doesn't come up rare. It's like, keeps it going, constant talk.

894
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 7: And that's what we wanted. We didn't want to have

895
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 7: gaps or music or anything else.

896
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. So and you so you were, Yeah, you were

897
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: measuring basically what you were walking towards collared lines. You

898
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: knew the location, and then you were measuring, and you

899
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: had a loud speaker playing the Mediator podcast. It was

900
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: eighty decibels, right.

901
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: Yep, eighty decibels.

902
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 7: And that's a you know, that's a kind of an

903
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 7: outside voice, right, you know, you're at a cocktail party.

904
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 7: Eighty decibels probably wouldn't be obnoxious when you're out in

905
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 7: the woods, like and it's quiet, it's loud enough that

906
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 7: it's carrying a couple hundred yards. Yeah, so we expected

907
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 7: those cats be hearing us approach with this human voice stimuli,

908
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 7: and we're able, Like I said, we know exactly where

909
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 7: they're at. We're looking at our handheld, we know where

910
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 7: we're at, where the cat's at. We approach with this

911
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 7: human voice, and we're watching. As soon as that cat

912
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 7: gets up to his feet and kind of flees, we stop,

913
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 7: gather up our data and we see how it responds

914
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 7: to us, like how does it you know, how scared

915
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 7: of us is is it?

916
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: So we're able to major then how far that cat moved.

917
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 7: Away, and when it stops, we'd hop on, you know,

918
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 7: we'd radio back. They turned the dogs loose, and the

919
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 7: dogs would come to us, find the cat track and

920
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 7: they'd run that cat tree it the first time we'd

921
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 7: treat it. We'd mark it with paintballs, permanent paint, and

922
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 7: that was kind of the only hands on, you know,

923
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 7: that was the only real whatever hazing that we did,

924
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 7: other than the dogs parking. We wanted to test if

925
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 7: it could associate then, like this human voice approaching it

926
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 7: and then this negative interaction. So we did that with cats,

927
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 7: and we would do that four times with each cat,

928
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 7: and that was kind of our data set, so each

929
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 7: cat had its own unique sort of data set with

930
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 7: four points on it. We also did a control portion,

931
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 7: so then we would take cats and approach them. It's

932
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 7: exactly the same way with the speaker playing, and when

933
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 7: they mobilized, they'd leave, and then we turn around and

934
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 7: just walk OUTZ no hazing. We just wanted to see

935
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 7: how that cat would respond.

936
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how many how many total cats did you

937
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: end up collaring and doing this too? Well?

938
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: We collared more. We ended up trying to.

939
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 7: You know, we had some trouble at first getting technology

940
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 7: figured out. I think totally total cats collared and handled

941
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 7: was around fifty. Uh. We got complete data on forty

942
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 7: one cats. Okay, that's a pretty good, pretty good sample size.

943
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 7: It's a little bit heavy on males, but not bad.

944
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 7: So we were able to get you know, they were

945
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 7: all adults. We didn't call our sub adult animals and

946
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 7: we tried not to. We tried not to capture females

947
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 7: that had accompanying young just because it muddies the data.

948
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: When we show up.

949
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 7: And there's three cats there, we don't know which one

950
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 7: runs first. Is it is you know, one of those

951
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 7: sub adults get spooked and runoff and the mom follows

952
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 7: her like.

953
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: We just didn't know.

954
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, so independent.

955
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: Aged independent cats or what we were after?

956
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 4: All?

957
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: Right, So these cats all heard Steven Reel's voice a

958
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: whole bunch. How did they How did they react to that?

959
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 7: Uh?

960
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: Positively, I guess, or negatively, I don't tell you. Look

961
00:48:59,320 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: at it.

962
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 7: They were they learned to avoid us. It really indicated

963
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 7: that the pursuit with the dogs can alter their response

964
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 7: to this sort of what should have been a BE

965
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 7: nine stimulus with the human voice. So it's called a

966
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 7: it's called a flight initiation distance project.

967
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: And they do it with birds a lot because birds

968
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: are easy.

969
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 7: Right, If a bird sitting on a telephone pool our point,

970
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 7: you can walk out and measure how close it lets

971
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 7: you get.

972
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: And all that stuff. Sure, cougars are a lot harder

973
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: than that. They're secretive.

974
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 7: So this is kind of the first flight initiation distance

975
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 7: project with cats and our data, you know, for Project Cats.

976
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. The our mean.

977
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 7: Flight initiation distance increased from seventy five at our first

978
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 7: interaction seventy five meters to one hundred and twenty eight

979
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 7: meters by the fourth interaction, so almost double, which is

980
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 7: pretty good when you start thinking about this. Limitations so

981
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 7: that they can only hear you from so far away,

982
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 7: So sure, one hundred and twenty eight meters is pretty

983
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 7: good distance. And then the distance moved. It was really interesting.

984
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 7: It almost doubled, went from two hundred and seventy eight

985
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 7: meters to five hundred and eighty two meters.

986
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: Wow, they really wanted to get away from us.

987
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 7: By the end of this thing, they recognized that, you know,

988
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 7: this person approaching me is bad news. It means something bad.

989
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 7: It's about to happen.

990
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you when you hear Stephen Ranella coming through

991
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: the woods, there's going to be a pack of hounds

992
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: not long after.

993
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 7: Right, if you're of wildlife and you hear Renella walking

994
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 7: towards you, bitter skidattle. The control portion was interesting, and

995
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 7: that was a little bit later in the game. We

996
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 7: really struggled with how to develop this control idea, so

997
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 7: it didn't start until about midway through the project. We

998
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 7: wanted to first see if we were getting good data

999
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 7: on our project cats, and the control cats showed an

1000
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 7: interesting thing. Our flight and issue distance decreased. You know,

1001
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 7: it started at sixty eight. We only had a value

1002
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 7: about I think twelve for our control cats, but started

1003
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 7: sixty eight, which is very close to what we saw

1004
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 7: with our project cats at seventy five, and it actually

1005
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 7: decreased down to thirty five meters. So by the end

1006
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 7: of that project, those cats recognized pretty quickly that this

1007
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 7: human voice doesn't isn't that scary, It doesn't mean very

1008
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 7: much to them so interesting?

1009
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: So was and was it didn't show clearly that basically

1010
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: with every touch point it was getting closer by just

1011
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: a little bit, or or was it kind of all

1012
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: over the place? Would you jump sometimes from sixty eight

1013
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: to fourteen or was it like always sixty eight, then fifty,

1014
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: then forty and then twenty.

1015
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, there were certainly some cats that weren't that linear,

1016
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 7: but there were some that really tracked like you're describing,

1017
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 7: really closely to that that was a.

1018
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: Little heavy on toms.

1019
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 7: We ended up with a lot of thmbs eight in

1020
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 7: the project, so we don't know if the females would

1021
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 7: have responded accordingly, but yeah, by there's some of those cats.

1022
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: You know, thirty five meters is just the meme, But

1023
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: three or four of those cats by the last approach

1024
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: we were walking up and looking at you know, we'd

1025
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: stop at ten meters. That was kind of what we call,

1026
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, close enough.

1027
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 7: We'd stop at ten meters and we'd be laying there

1028
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 7: in the brush and looking at each other. So those

1029
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 7: cats weren't afraid of us at all. That human voice

1030
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 7: they had recognized is not something to be concerned with,

1031
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 7: which is really interesting.

1032
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 5: You know.

1033
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 7: That's like when you think about these cats in parks

1034
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 7: and along hiking trails and stuff like that, you know,

1035
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 7: there's maybe one hundred people a day walking by, talking

1036
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 7: to each other and stuff, and they've just learned like

1037
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 7: just be still and let them pass.

1038
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, it's a wonder we don't have more attacks.

1039
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 2: And you know, who knows who can explain that. But

1040
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: all right, so you can see there's like two I

1041
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: don't know, there's a lot of ways to look at this,

1042
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: but it's like one, it's it's good information for the cats,

1043
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: right and for saving cats because as opposed to you

1044
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: guys just coming out killing these cats and then they

1045
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: go into the dumpster. Like, if you can show that

1046
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: these cats by a little bit of hazing then learn

1047
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: to stay away from humans, that saves cat lives, right, So.

1048
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the idea, right, we want those things out

1049
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 7: on the landscape for leap, for hunters or for whatever else.

1050
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, just I don't know, be a part of the

1051
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: landscape that is wildlife out there. So like, how has

1052
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: the research been received or are people reading it looking

1053
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: at it? And then is it changing any minds or

1054
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: is it affecting management at all? Management thoughts decisions in Washington.

1055
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, I don't know if it's made any

1056
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 7: major you know, led to any changes just yet. I

1057
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 7: think it's being well received for the most part. There's

1058
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 7: of course, people trying to.

1059
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: Make it into something that it's not on you know,

1060
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: it's not a silver bullet.

1061
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 7: It's not it's not going to correct all cougar public

1062
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 7: safety issues or defordations or whatever.

1063
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: But I think it's another.

1064
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 7: Tool for managers to consider when you know, you have

1065
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 7: a landscape with lots of people on it and lots

1066
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 7: of cougars around and you want to kind of lead

1067
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 7: to that sort of safe coexistence. It just gives managers

1068
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 7: another tool, and I think it's being received by the

1069
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 7: managers fairly well.

1070
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: In that way.

1071
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 7: You know, there's a there's a lot of movement right

1072
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 7: now with cougar management across the West, there's a you know,

1073
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 7: people aren't going anywhere. Cougar populations seem to be stable

1074
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 7: or increasing in a lot of places. Say I'm hopeful,

1075
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 7: I'm hopeful it gets picked up, and people kind of

1076
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 7: consider that before you know, killing a cat potentially needlessly,

1077
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 7: and also when they're thinking about you know, policy and

1078
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 7: opportunities for hound handlers to get out and sort of

1079
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 7: recreationally pursue these catches, and maybe an opportunity to get

1080
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 7: ahead of some of these things altogether just through recreational

1081
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 7: hound pursuits.

1082
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's such a weird idea. Like before

1083
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: I got into hound hunting, I would have never thought

1084
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: that there would be people out there that'd be like,

1085
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I just want to go and chase these cats.

1086
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: I don't even need to kill them, Like just like

1087
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: going out and you know, participating in trying to catch one,

1088
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 2: catching them, taking pictures, and then leaving them. That will

1089
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: be plenty to keep me excited. Now that I've done it,

1090
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: Like I totally get it. Like you don't have to

1091
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 2: have a kill season to have hound people be super

1092
00:55:59,280 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: into it.

1093
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, it's just it's a cool thing and

1094
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 7: a lot of you know, hound handlers have been really

1095
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 7: strong advocates for wildlife protections across the West. Just recently

1096
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 7: in Wyoming is the hound groups that they kind of

1097
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 7: squashed a bill that would have, you know, an idea

1098
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 7: that would have really probably damaged while cougar populations in

1099
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 7: that state, and that you know, hound handlers have came

1100
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 7: came to the plate several times to sort of protect

1101
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 7: cats because they want something to do on the weekends,

1102
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 7: they want to be pursuing cougars, taking their picture, working

1103
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 7: their dogs. I mean that's kind of the important thing.

1104
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 7: Now that you have mingus, you sort of recognize how

1105
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 7: much you know that having a dog in the hunt

1106
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 7: saying really means.

1107
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's another thing too. If you're out there

1108
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: and your dog's not there because he's out on injured

1109
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: reserve or whatever, you might as well just stay home

1110
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 2: because it ain't no fun once.

1111
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 7: You've got your own dogs in the races.

1112
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: On Well, Bart, thanks for doing the work and thanks

1113
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: for coming and telling us about it. If anybody wants

1114
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: to learn more about this project or actually look at

1115
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: your the results of the research, where can they go

1116
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: to find that.

1117
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 7: I emailed you guys over a copy of the final publication.

1118
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 7: You can share that if you'd like.

1119
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: You know, that episode that.

1120
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 7: The episode that we did really describes the process of

1121
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 7: the hazing pretty well.

1122
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: They can check that out also.

1123
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, thank you. Have a good day, Bart. We'll

1124
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: be in touch soon.

1125
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, thank you.

1126
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: All right, I'm watching the clock. Finally after an hour,

1127
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: I see that we've burned up sixty minutes and you've

1128
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: got to the first listener feedback. Yeah, we haven't even

1129
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: gotten a listener feedback, So we're gonna do that. I'm

1130
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 2: gonna also while Phil is doing that, I'm gonna also

1131
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: ask you guys to sort of just, you know, in

1132
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: the chat kind of vote you guys would rather hear

1133
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: gear talk or show and tell.

1134
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 6: Because here's the thing I was gonna I was gonna

1135
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 6: call an audible. I'm gonna suggest something because this is

1136
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 6: if the audience hasn't noticed, this is a little this

1137
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 6: shows a little different this week. We had to make

1138
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 6: a last minute change, so we're kind of just mixing

1139
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 6: things up in the field of the show is a

1140
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 6: little it's it's it's a little unfamiliar. So I'm thinking

1141
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 6: we just do one listener feedback, very very familiar to me. Sure,

1142
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 6: I think we just do one listener feedback at the

1143
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 6: very end. It'll be the last thing we do. I

1144
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 6: think we can cruise through gear Talk and Show and Tell,

1145
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 6: just back to back.

1146
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: I like it.

1147
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: I think Phil wants to share his sound drops and

1148
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 3: I really want Okay, that's true.

1149
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: I forgot that he had roll a special news.

1150
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 6: I just I just hate cutting things it because we

1151
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 6: had to cut something last week and it made me

1152
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 6: feel bad.

1153
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Josh Miller, if you're watching or listening,

1154
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: you know, get your program together so you can join

1155
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: us on a future episode, because it's going to be

1156
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: entertaining for everybody when we uh, when we get to

1157
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: see how you run this program. Because I got a

1158
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: lot of questions for Josh in this program, all right,

1159
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: So I like that. So we're gonna save listener feedback

1160
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: for the end. That's what you want to do, Phil, Yeah,

1161
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: I'll get some more questions in. Okay, bring some more questions.

1162
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: Now we're on to gear Talk.

1163
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 6: Let's talk about gear fa beat, Let's talk about sop

1164
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 6: and beats. Let's talk about boots in bind candle patterns.

1165
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: With young beats. Let's talk about let's talk about gear.

1166
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,479
Speaker 1: Let's talk.

1167
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, there we go. I told you, I told the

1168
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 6: crew I was gonna do a different song. I was

1169
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 6: gonna I was gonna do jive talking the begi's, But

1170
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 6: there were just there were too many harmonies and I

1171
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 6: was feeling lazy this morning. So we're not. I stuck

1172
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 6: with that one.

1173
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: If that was lazy, that's the nails at Phil.

1174
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 2: We should just come up with a new segment every

1175
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: week so that Phil has to.

1176
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 4: Do a news to come in here at six in

1177
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 4: the morning before everyone's here and like hide in here

1178
00:59:59,040 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 4: and do yeah.

1179
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: But you can hear it in his voice when he's

1180
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: doing it. That's what he loves about his job. That's

1181
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: what he loves about it. All right. Gear Talk wants

1182
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: to go first.

1183
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 4: Well, you're just going.

1184
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: To order that it's written, all right, all right. I

1185
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: recently I've had this cooler for a while, but I

1186
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: got to use it again at Turkey Camp. We had

1187
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: the right kind of weather. Last year Turkey Camp was

1188
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 2: so cold. I didn't even bring these suckers out. Now. Listen,

1189
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: this is mega expensive gear. I didn't pay for mine

1190
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: but it's cool. Okay, yeah, no, puny. You can make

1191
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: it cold. You can make ice if you want. Yes,

1192
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: it is a solar powered cooler made by Dometic. Okay, roughly,

1193
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna be in to it. The core is gonna

1194
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: go depending on the size, plus or minus a couple

1195
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: of hundred bucks one thousand. Then you also need a

1196
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: solar panel, and you also need a battery that stores there.

1197
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: You go, there's a picture of my setup. So the

1198
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: juice goes, is captured by the solar panel, it goes

1199
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: into the battery, is stored there, and then into the cooler.

1200
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: You can't go direct solar panel to the cooler.

1201
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 4: How many quartz is that cooler?

1202
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: That one is? They call it the fifty five. The

1203
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: nice thing about these coolers is that and I would

1204
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: call them it's more of a refrigerator that is in

1205
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: the shape of a cooler than it being an actual cooler.

1206
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: It's definitely not as insulated as a yety. Like if

1207
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: you just used it as a cooler and didn't have

1208
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: power to it, it's not gonna work as well as

1209
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: a YETI would, but if you've got it set up

1210
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: like this and that battery, I haven't tried it just alone,

1211
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: but you could probably not have sun or ditch a

1212
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: solar panel. You could. I'm guessing you could run that

1213
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: cooler at thirty eight degrees for three to four days

1214
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: off that battery, which you know gets you through a

1215
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: lot of camping.

1216
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 3: Trips Memorial Weekend.

1217
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: But man, the real benefit And I don't know, is

1218
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: it worth sixteen hundred bucks for the whole kit in kaboodle,

1219
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. You're gonna have to buy a lot.

1220
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to not buy a lot of bags

1221
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: of ice for it to pay for itself.

1222
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, buck fifty a bag.

1223
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like not having the wetness in the bottom

1224
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: of the cooler, not having to deal with the ice,

1225
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: just constantly knowing that like, oh no, this thing at

1226
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: all times is thirty three degrees or whatever you set

1227
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: it up to. It's pretty sweet. Like it just takes

1228
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: out that element of dealing with the ice, wondering if

1229
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: your stuff's getting too warm, and especially like we we

1230
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: had some birds that needed cooling down right. I used

1231
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: to always bring a separate cooler with separate ice, keep

1232
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: it locked down so that when I get to meet

1233
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: I can jam it in there, it'll get cold and

1234
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: I can get it home. Well, this time, we basically

1235
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: just processed the birds, put them into ziplocks and gave

1236
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: them their own little, you know, quadrant of that refrigerator,

1237
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: and they're just in there doing their thing. No, don't

1238
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: have to worry about any kind of meat.

1239
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: Spoilers all the comforts of home.

1240
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Listen, when your buddy showed up in camp,

1241
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: which we had to do, they were giving me some shit.

1242
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: They're like, dude, like, did you have to like have

1243
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 2: a note another trailer with you to carry all this with?

1244
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 3: You say, it looks like it takes up the whole

1245
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 3: back end of your taco.

1246
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't, actually, I mean, if you think about it,

1247
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: I brought two and I was actually just swapping. I

1248
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: would just unplug one and plug the other one in

1249
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: and then they would they would work that way. But

1250
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: that solar panel, it's skinny, so you just kind of

1251
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: slide it in anywhere you want. The battery is I

1252
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: don't know the size of maybe three NuGen bottles, so

1253
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 2: it definitely doesn't take up any more room. But the

1254
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: big benefit is that yeah, no ice, no ice, mess,

1255
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 2: it's got a setting in there. I haven't done it yet.

1256
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: I haven't been drinking as I'm getting ready for the

1257
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: big race, so I didn't have to bring any ice

1258
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: for cocktails. But it's got a deal where you can

1259
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: go to the lowest setting and then you basically have

1260
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: like a little mini compartment that sits right on the

1261
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: compressor and you can actually make ice in the field.

1262
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 3: That's a game changer.

1263
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: If you like to have your whiskey on the rocks. Yeah, Brodi,

1264
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: what do you got?

1265
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 4: I got these bad little mama jamas here.

1266
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: This is the sig.

1267
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 4: So these are the image stabilizing buying us that sig

1268
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 4: hour makes. And I'm generally pretty slow to adopt like

1269
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 4: new technology, but if you've never looked through these things, like,

1270
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,479
Speaker 4: it's impossible to explain to someone who hasn't looked through

1271
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 4: one of these and just used the regular binos the

1272
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 4: difference that it makes, like freehanding binos especially, I'm like

1273
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 4: Western spot in stock hunts. It just sucks like you

1274
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 4: have to have a tripod. You still do, but with these,

1275
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 4: like you can kick back and throw them up on

1276
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 4: your knees and actually do a little work with them

1277
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 4: without a tripod, and it gives your neck and your

1278
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 4: shoulders a break. You're not hunched over that that tripod

1279
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 4: all day long, and you can certainly set them up

1280
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 4: for a tripod. The reason I like these is not

1281
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 4: for tripod glass and or big spot in stock hunts.

1282
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 4: I like them because they're small. They're ten by thirties,

1283
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 4: so they're light. They're light so like turkey season.

1284
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: Great.

1285
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 4: If I was a tree stand whitetail hunter, they'd be

1286
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 4: ideal for that. And we've been talking about kids a

1287
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 4: lot today, like they're awesome for kids because especially younger

1288
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 4: kids just have trouble holding binos steady enough to look

1289
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 4: at and you're like, the deer's over there, and they're

1290
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 4: just like all over the place with those things, they

1291
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 4: can actually see stuff. Yeah, so my boys will definitely

1292
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 4: be carrying carrying those this fall deer hunting and stuff.

1293
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. They're small enough that I was carrying them in

1294
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: the pocket. Yeah of my first light turkey vest.

1295
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1296
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, Like a ten by thirty is not not

1297
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 4: a wide field of view, right, Like it's for long

1298
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 4: range class and it's not going to be ideal. But

1299
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 4: they make what are they twelve by fifties?

1300
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't well, yeah, those are in the newer version.

1301
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah that they make They have a bigger objective with

1302
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,479
Speaker 2: the bigger field of view. But I actually prefer these

1303
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: older versions or the first not older, but the first iteration, Yeah,

1304
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: just because it is a smaller package and it just

1305
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 2: they're yeah, super tidy. Love it and I would probably

1306
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 2: I'll carry I may even carry these.

1307
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 4: And my regular glass and binos this fall like Deer

1308
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 4: and Elk.

1309
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: Count Yeah, like you said, for handholding when you're just

1310
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: gonna like quickly need to scan the hillside or you

1311
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,479
Speaker 2: see something moving and you need to get on it quick.

1312
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: Those things are amazing.

1313
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess we're on the battery train or everything

1314
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 3: that needs charging or takes batteries. But yeah, I am

1315
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: in love with this new well it's not new, but

1316
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,959
Speaker 3: new to me. The uncharted supply companies the Zeus Air,

1317
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 3: which is air inflator.

1318
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: Uh A couple of time, one of those Corey beats me.

1319
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: I thought your whole job was to keep me decked

1320
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: out with all the bitch and stuff.

1321
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 3: No, I'm also a podcast producer. But this thing will

1322
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: pump up any tires, bike tires to truck tires. That

1323
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 3: also will jumpstart vehicle up to a six liter diesel engine,

1324
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 3: which I haven't had to use that yet. That's a

1325
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 3: big battery is probably seven years old, so one of

1326
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 3: these day it is not going to start for me.

1327
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 3: I do have a little like pin leak in my

1328
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: truck tire passenger side tire, so I've had to use

1329
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 3: this every couple of days. Definitely gonna take it with

1330
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 3: me camp and it's just a good thing to have

1331
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 3: in the truck all the time. Also charge USB both

1332
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 3: types of USB cords has a little handy danny flashlight

1333
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: on it.

1334
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: It'll blind you if you're not How much does that

1335
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: thing cost?

1336
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 3: Two hundred and fifty bucks?

1337
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 4: That's reasonable.

1338
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's.

1339
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 3: Some other ones out there, like Dwalt makes one, but

1340
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 3: it's like three times the size. It's pretty amazing how

1341
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: much power is packed into this little kit right here.

1342
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 4: What kind of jacks does it got?

1343
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: Like USB and like USB and USB C Yeah, so.

1344
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 2: It comes with it's a little cables though to if

1345
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 2: you had to have you had to hit your battery.

1346
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: Yep, comes with the jumper cables and then they hose

1347
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 3: to inflate your tire and it works. It's kind of slow,

1348
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 3: but it works well. Like I've used it a few

1349
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 3: times and I don't know, you can probably get all

1350
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: four tires filled up on one like from to fill.

1351
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 2: Like in my before the battery ran out.

1352
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive. I've been carrying this thing everywhere, so

1353
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 3: always good to have in the truck.

1354
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Corey wins geared talk.

1355
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't realize it was a competition, all.

1356
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: Right, Onto our next segment, show and tell.

1357
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 4: Many the show.

1358
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: Good choice, Phil.

1359
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 4: Many a shot.

1360
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 6: This is my shriekiest one, A little out of my ring.

1361
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: Spencer brought a rock? What else did you we.

1362
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 3: Spent no rocks today?

1363
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: Baby?

1364
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 2: Of course, of course he brought a rock.

1365
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 6: I love this. I love this bit of Yanni just

1366
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 6: complaining about Spencer all the time. It's my favorite.

1367
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know it. Spencer's the whole reason we

1368
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 2: just don't get to come on here and tell hunting stories,

1369
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 2: especially when all the viewers are like, tell us more

1370
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:53,839
Speaker 2: haunt stories.

1371
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 4: This is like this show is kind of spends.

1372
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 3: This show is kind of his baby.

1373
01:09:59,360 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 2: Is it?

1374
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: You're the producer does a great job, but it's it

1375
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 3: all started and you know, kind of morphs off the

1376
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 3: Spencer's ideas. So hats off to Space.

1377
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 6: Come on the show More Off and Yanni, you can

1378
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 6: crash it and tell more hunting stories.

1379
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 2: Hey love to have. Corey knows exactly when I'm available

1380
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,839
Speaker 2: at the hostep. All right for show and tell today,

1381
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 2: I brought in my Axis buck euromount. And this is

1382
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 2: from a buck that I killed with the Element boys

1383
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: in let's see February of twenty four, so a little

1384
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: over the over a year ago. I like the way

1385
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: it turned out. This is my first animal that I've

1386
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: ever sort of kept the velvet on. The outfitter and

1387
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: the Element boys were really impressed. They say this this

1388
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 2: might have been the biggest one they were going to

1389
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: kill the whole season. They think that it's like top

1390
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: ten or twenty archery sci axis. Oh yes, which.

1391
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 4: Well, I've just never been close enough to a set

1392
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 4: of those antlers to get a feel for Like looking

1393
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 4: at it on video, you can't tell how big or

1394
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,520
Speaker 4: small they are. And this isn't a this isn't an

1395
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 4: insult to you in any way, but those antlers are

1396
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 4: smaller than I thought they would be.

1397
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, access deer is not a giant animal, right,

1398
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 2: like it's an animal that you can buy yourself. Drag

1399
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: along you know.

1400
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'll say in the video with the Element boys,

1401
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 3: when you killed this thing, he looks huge on the hoof,

1402
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 3: no offense to the beautiful trophy.

1403
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 2: He's next to some doze. He's next to smaller box.

1404
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 3: That really shows a size in that video.

1405
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: I feel like, totally, what's I think the thing that

1406
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: I'd like to share about it?

1407
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: Though?

1408
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great hunt, had a great, great

1409
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 2: time with everybody there and Outlaw outfitters. If you're looking

1410
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 2: for a good access deer hunt team, Outlaw I believe.

1411
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you guys know, oh what makes long

1412
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 2: I guess trophies or whatever is long brow times? And

1413
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: then I can't remember what they called these, something with

1414
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: a pee it's uh. Anyways, when these are as tall

1415
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 2: as the main beam, then he gets to be a

1416
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: big boy. But this is a reminder to me that

1417
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: for me to get excited about hunting and killing certain species,

1418
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: I need to have some amount of exposure to them

1419
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: more than I have with an axis to here. Now

1420
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 2: that I've done it three days, I'm kind of excited

1421
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: to go back. I'd like to go back during when

1422
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 2: they're really roaring in the rut, which is middle of

1423
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 2: summer in Texas. So it's kind of an adventure because

1424
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna be out there with the snakes, you know,

1425
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: in the heat and the heat. But like now I

1426
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 2: know a little bit about them, and I'm kind of

1427
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: like it. I'm titillated by it and I want to

1428
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: experience more of it. But like how excited these guys

1429
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: were to see this animal? For me, I was like,

1430
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's like the fourth buck I've ever seen.

1431
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: It's just another It's just another axis to me. I

1432
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: don't know. Do you guys ever feel that? Unlike when

1433
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: you're like when you come to new territory, new animal,

1434
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: but like you don't know the landscape, you don't know

1435
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: the animal. It's kind of hard to you don't have

1436
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: a connection.

1437
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 4: Right, especially with it'd be especially true with the species

1438
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 4: like that, which isn't even native to North America.

1439
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You got to go to India, yea.

1440
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just recently did an odd ad hunt and

1441
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: never seen one before, so I was basing everything off

1442
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 3: a bigger sheep that I've seen thousands of and very

1443
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 3: different animal, similar but different totally. That was difficult too.

1444
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: Did you feel connection with that Ali dad or once?

1445
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: No, once I put my hands on them, there was

1446
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 3: a full on connection. But before that not.

1447
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: All right? Brody? Would you bring Corey?

1448
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 4: You want to help me?

1449
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: It's a truck.

1450
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 4: Do you go?

1451
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 6: I feel like I need a drum roll? Here?

1452
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: You do? These boys? For those of you just listening

1453
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 2: and not looking, it's taking two of them to lift

1454
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: up and and.

1455
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 6: Move move a little bit further in there.

1456
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: They're moving Rody's giant moose skull and antlers that you killed.

1457
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 2: And was that last fall? Last fall?

1458
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 1: Man?

1459
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: What a beauty that's bigger than my dad's.

1460
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 4: I guess I should sit down and talk about it.

1461
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 1: Phil.

1462
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, this might be a problem. Sorry, we don't have more.

1463
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 6: You can't like the situations?

1464
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 4: Ye?

1465
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: You you need me to help you to get positions.

1466
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: We're live, all right?

1467
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:03,959
Speaker 4: We can just rest it there maybe.

1468
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 2: So.

1469
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1470
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 4: This is my first and only bull moose Alaska Yukon

1471
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 4: moose brought in for a couple of reasons, just because

1472
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:19,959
Speaker 4: moose antlers are super cool. But one of the reasons

1473
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 4: is the bulls. And Yannis knows this from his dad

1474
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 4: killing one and not in the same spot, but same

1475
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 4: general zone of Alaska. The bulls in that area tend

1476
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 4: to have these really big fronts. He's like Paul, almost

1477
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 4: like a second palm, you know, and a lot a

1478
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 4: lot of bulls will just have like a couple of

1479
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 4: times coming out. So it just just makes these particular

1480
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 4: bulls really really neat. The other reason I brought it

1481
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 4: in is this is the first, uh, big game animal

1482
01:15:55,479 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 4: whose skull I paid to have done. Normally, I clean

1483
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 4: all my skulls by simmer numb and water and then

1484
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 4: cleaning them up. I paid to have this one beetled.

1485
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 4: And the main reason is is if you look how

1486
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 4: this these antlers come off of the skull, you can't

1487
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 4: get it down there in the pot. That's right, Like

1488
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 4: there's a way to do it where you can make

1489
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 4: notches in a big pot and all that, but I

1490
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 4: didn't want to mess with it, so I paid to

1491
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 4: have it beetled. And I think beadled skulls look better

1492
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 4: then than can look better than.

1493
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: Well, and they're definitely stronger. Yeah, they'll hold up longer.

1494
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 2: Where's that? Where are you hanging that thing? Haven't decided yet,

1495
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: so it's not even on a wall. Yea, yeah, I

1496
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: just put the the uh, the wire, the wire into

1497
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 2: it the other day.

1498
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 4: So yeah, I gotta gotta pick a spot.

1499
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: How much you do you have you waited?

1500
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm guessing sixty.

1501
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 2: You think, Yeah, I know when I went to that

1502
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 2: D and C or DNE is that who shipped yours to.

1503
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 4: Trophy Trophy Alaska Trophy Express.

1504
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 2: I went into one of those in I think it

1505
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: was Fairbanks, and we were going to ship my dad's

1506
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: which was a pretty average fifty three fifty four inch

1507
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 2: bowl or something, nice fronts, and there's a couple of

1508
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 2: the big boys in there. Due they were so big

1509
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 2: that I picked them up and could only hold them

1510
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: long enough for a snap of picture before I had

1511
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: to set them down.

1512
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was two bulls when we got back into

1513
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 4: the town. The hangar from the air service we were using,

1514
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 4: you know, there's there's twenty thirty bullskulls in there. There

1515
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 4: was a sixty eight and a seventy two. The sixty

1516
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 4: eight was like my thigh his bases and I'm guessing

1517
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 4: weighed close to one hundred pounds, I mean amazing. So yeah,

1518
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 4: like packing this thing out, my guess is around sixty

1519
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 4: Corey says more. Yeah, maybe it's hard to say, but yeah,

1520
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 4: it's like a lifetime for me than that. Let's put

1521
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 4: the sucker down.

1522
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for bringing that in. Yeah, that's that's a

1523
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: lot of effort. Brody's really committed to this episode. Again,

1524
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: if you're just listening at home, we were just looking

1525
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 2: at Brody's how wide was yours? Mid fifty five inch

1526
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: Alaska Yukon moves head beautiful? All right, Corey, Corey, would

1527
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 2: you bring Corey brought an antler too.

1528
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 3: It's the Horn episode, all right?

1529
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: That thing is dark as can be. You found it

1530
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 2: that dark if you and you added some shoe posa.

1531
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 2: I told him it looks like a Roosevelt. Yeah.

1532
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 3: Okay, now now looking it in the camera, it looks

1533
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 3: a little better. But this is the coolest shed I've

1534
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 3: ever found. And if you're if you're listening and not watching,

1535
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 3: you should probably go watch. It's got teeny tiny fronts,

1536
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:06,799
Speaker 3: but it's third crab claws and splits and he's got maybe.

1537
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 2: I ain't no crab claw, dude, you can't call that

1538
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: a crab claw?

1539
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: What is it? Lobster claw?

1540
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 2: No? But I mean it's just like a three yeah. Yeah,

1541
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: crab claw means it's like little bitty crab claw. It's

1542
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: huge though.

1543
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know that's like a twenty one

1544
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 3: inch in line coming out of off his fourth off

1545
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: his royal time.

1546
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 2: Dude, that ding listen, Corey his numbers. There's no way

1547
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: that's twenty one inches. That extra point there. It might be.

1548
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 3: Seventeen you count it from down here there.

1549
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 2: I'll have to learn give it, give it the old hand.

1550
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 3: It might be seventeen. I can't remember the whole thing.

1551
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 3: The whole thing scored. This shed scored one seventy eight.

1552
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 3: And that's not guessing. That's yeah, boone and Crockett.

1553
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 4: So one A three sixty plus so four hundo with

1554
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 4: the spread yep, dang.

1555
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 3: But the coolest part about this is how I found it.

1556
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 3: So this bowl, Phil, I don't know if you want

1557
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 3: to play the video.

1558
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, hold on a second.

1559
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 3: I used to guide on a ranch in Montana here

1560
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 3: and this bowl was found in September. This video was

1561
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 3: taken by the ranch owner, slash Outfitter, And this is

1562
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 3: the first time we had seen this bowl, anybody had

1563
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 3: seen him. And this was in September twenty sixteen.

1564
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 2: And is that the antler you're holding?

1565
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 3: No, so this is so. Yeah, it's probably a year

1566
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 3: or two years after this shed was dropped. When this

1567
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 3: video was tacked, you can tell you regressed a little

1568
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: bit every time. It's a little bit shorter, at least

1569
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 3: on this side. Look at that in line off is

1570
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 3: fourth is only seven inches.

1571
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 4: They ever get him, so.

1572
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 3: We couldn't kill him in September, we didn't have that

1573
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: many hunters in archery season, but come rifle season, that

1574
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 3: was like the bowl everybody wanted, just because he was

1575
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: such a freak. I called him t Rex because he

1576
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:01,480
Speaker 3: just looked like a dinosaur.

1577
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 4: Good name choice.

1578
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he eluded a lot of hunters for three weeks,

1579
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 3: and my hunter on the third week really wanted to

1580
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: fully commit to finding this one. And now the bull

1581
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 3: had moved a few miles from where this video was

1582
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 3: taken to another spot like a little juniper hell hole,

1583
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 3: kind of Missouri break style, and he would people would

1584
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 3: see him from far off, like not being able to

1585
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: put much of a stock on him, or they'd see

1586
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 3: him and try and put a stock on him. And

1587
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: he eluded a lot of hunters, a lot of really

1588
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 3: good guides that have killed a lot of elk, and

1589
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 3: on the third week, my client and I were sitting

1590
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 3: up on a knob looking down into the spot where

1591
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 3: he was last seen. We caught a glimpse of a

1592
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 3: huge bowl by himself at like eleven o'clock in the afternoon,

1593
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 3: coming over a hill. We dropped everything and rallied down

1594
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 3: to try and kill him, and the second drainage that

1595
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 3: we went through, I stumbled across this shed sitting there

1596
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 3: and nobody had seen him prior to that year, so

1597
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 3: he was he was on the ranch obviously, at least

1598
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 3: in the spring. I'm assuming the year before, maybe two

1599
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 3: years before, but probably the year before. And then the

1600
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 3: next week we didn't end up killing the bowl. It

1601
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 3: ended up being another giant seven point that we passed

1602
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 3: up because he really wanted this one. He ended up

1603
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 3: killing a different bowl on the last day, but on

1604
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 3: the next final week of the hunt, one of the

1605
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 3: last days of rifle season, this bowl was killed in

1606
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 3: the same exact area by another hunter, so he did

1607
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 3: go down eventually. But yeah, it's the coolest shed I'll

1608
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: ever find. And I'm not a shed hunter. I just

1609
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,879
Speaker 3: pick him up when I come across him. Shed hunting's

1610
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 3: gotten a little out of control these days. And if

1611
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 3: it's if it's hip, I'm not doing it.

1612
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an amazing one.

1613
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: That's my story.

1614
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: That's so definite. Once in a lifetime shed.

1615
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, Philler, we at the two hour mark.

1616
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 6: Yet not quite that I think. I think, I think

1617
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 6: there is going to be an extra commercial break, so.

1618
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 2: We'll hit ninety minutes. Questions. I saw one, I for

1619
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,520
Speaker 2: sure want to answer about one week in November.

1620
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 6: Oh yes, please do always skeptical to choose ones based

1621
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 6: on programming that I don't know about, and I don't

1622
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 6: want to, you know, cause any hubbubs. So if you

1623
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 6: want to answer that one, to have at it.

1624
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember who what the fella's name was.

1625
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 2: I'll try to Forgal for that matter. But they asked

1626
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: if there's going to be another one week in November show,

1627
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 2: and if you didn't watch it, should go back and

1628
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: watch it. But that's where a bunch of us were

1629
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: hunting different locations, but on the same days, and then

1630
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: we sort of showed the communication that we had through

1631
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: text chats and just phone calls and sort of as

1632
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: the one week in November went on, I thought it

1633
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: was a cool idea. The problem with it is that,

1634
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: like every kind of wants to be hunting somewhere, sometime,

1635
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 2: we have other hunts that we might want to be doing.

1636
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: It was hard to get everybody to do another one

1637
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: cause I think we did two seasons so far. So

1638
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: we just got an invite to go hunt somewhere pretty

1639
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 2: far south, still in the United States, but southern where

1640
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: the rut is later, and we could do this in January.

1641
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 2: So we're trying to put together a one week in

1642
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: January where we all would be on this on the

1643
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 2: same location, hunting the same white tails.

1644
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 3: That's cool.

1645
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's in the works. Hopefully we will put

1646
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 2: it pull it off this upcoming January, and you'll probably

1647
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,600
Speaker 2: get to see it fall of twenty six. Thanks for

1648
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: the question, Garrett.

1649
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,520
Speaker 3: I still think we need to do one week in September,

1650
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 3: get four guys out in different different states, hunt out,

1651
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 3: see what the RT's like. Mm hmmm, use in reach.

1652
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we totally forgot. We're gonna check. I

1653
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: forgot to put this in the intro. Let's check to

1654
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: see if Yanni drew his wyoming.

1655
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 6: Elk tag. Oh, that's a great idea. I'll play a

1656
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 6: little music.

1657
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got time.

1658
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 6: I'll play the price of white product music here.

1659
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 4: Now, you seriously haven't looked yet.

1660
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: I haven't. Oh boy, how long do you drop the

1661
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: son of a gun?

1662
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: No?

1663
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 2: It no, it's signed me out Ago Yanni.

1664
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 3: How many points do you have?

1665
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: I think I had fourteen going into this year.

1666
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 3: Must be hunting for a trophy unit.

1667
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: Then oh buddy, oh buddy, verify the information is correct. Yes, continue, This.

1668
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 6: Is compelling podcasting. I love it. This was this was

1669
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 6: Corey's this was my idea. It sounds like I'm being sarcastic,

1670
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,679
Speaker 6: but this is fun. Well, yeah, to do it live

1671
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 6: on the show.

1672
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: I didn't draw way non resident Malago and non resident

1673
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: special elk unsuccessful for both man. Dang.

1674
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 3: Times tough out here in the Western States.

1675
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: It's crash back to the hoping board or whatever.

1676
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 4: It'll just be to general season.

1677
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 2: What a down? Or to end this podcast on.

1678
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 6: Breaking we have breaking news from the live chat bring

1679
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 6: it Randall Williams. Oh not hello, Mogo, I mean yes, hello,

1680
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 6: but he said, did you hear, guys hear about Randall's

1681
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 6: turkey hout this morning?

1682
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 4: He got one?

1683
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: Who was this guy?

1684
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 6: I don't know. Possibly Max. I just know he didn't

1685
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 6: invite me. But that's fine.

1686
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: Pete Munich probably wow, way to go random breaking news.

1687
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 6: Uh that bad luck for Yanni. Good look for Randall.

1688
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 6: Congrats Randall.

1689
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 3: He probably was hunting at Walmart.

1690
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 6: Matias is upset that we didn't talk more ice fishing

1691
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 6: this winter. Do you guys have any ice fishing stories

1692
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 6: or anything fun happening?

1693
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: Oh?

1694
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 2: Man, I like it's because everybody's giving up on the

1695
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 2: ice here in uh south in southwestern Montana.

1696
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 4: There was good ice this year.

1697
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, yeah, sorry I phrased that wrong.

1698
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 2: They've given up on the fishing beneath the ice, whether

1699
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 2: it's good or not, you just have to go a

1700
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: long ways. Like there isn't great ice fishing. I mean,

1701
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're happy just catching these little perch

1702
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 2: and blue gills out of the local ponds, sure, yeah,

1703
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 2: but yeah, we just don't have it great. And so

1704
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 2: I think everybody's like they don't know what's to drive

1705
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 2: four hours for ice fishing? Yeah?

1706
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 3: No, sorry, no good stories this year fly fishing this winter.

1707
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 6: At the top, before the show even started, Tucker said,

1708
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 6: how quick do we think the removal of federal lands

1709
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 6: from the big beautiful bill will come up. Well, Tucker,

1710
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 6: it's been about ninety minutes, so you guys want to

1711
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 6: say anything about that?

1712
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I figured by now hopefully most of

1713
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 4: the people out there know what happened, that the sell

1714
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 4: off of public lands was withdrawn, was cut out of

1715
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 4: the bill, and our our home state Senator Ryan Zinkey

1716
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 4: kind of led the charge to go rogue and go

1717
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 4: against his Republican counterparts along with a small group of

1718
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 4: other Western congressmen, and so that stuff got cut out.

1719
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 4: It's not the land's not going to get sold. So

1720
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 4: it's good news. But I'm assuming by now most people

1721
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 4: have great What.

1722
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: Was interesting to me is that I didn't catch the

1723
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 2: talk about the public lands sell off anywhere besides my

1724
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: sort of like hunting Instagram channel.

1725
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 4: I saw it in a couple of like major news. Yeah,

1726
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 4: so it was like it was almost and they mentioned

1727
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 4: this morning when they went through what was cut out

1728
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 4: of the bill. It was mentioned in there. It's great news. Unfortunately,

1729
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 4: like I think that a lot of people aren't aware

1730
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 4: that it, Like like there's a couple of things that

1731
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 4: remained in that bill which aren't cool, which is the

1732
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 4: boundary waters like mining right next to it could still happen,

1733
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 4: and protections in anwar are being lifted Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

1734
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 4: So while lands aren't getting sold, there's certainly public lands

1735
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 4: that are are still in danger. So there's a reason

1736
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 4: to keep paying attention to what happens with this.

1737
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: That's right, So take a break for a day or two,

1738
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: and then we got to get right back to the

1739
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: fight and give your reps another call. Tell them how

1740
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 2: you feel about mining next to the wilderness area in Minnesota,

1741
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 2: and how you feel about drilling in an warm.

1742
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:25,560
Speaker 6: Yep yep, Devin says. Heynnas seen the new video with

1743
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 6: you and Randall blowing stuff up with the new six

1744
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 6: to seventy seven Fury cartridge. What was your favorite thing

1745
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 6: to blow up that day and what did you like

1746
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:32,799
Speaker 6: about the cartridge?

1747
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 2: Ah, the watermelon definitely looked the coolest. You know. We

1748
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 2: did blow up some some sort of fake ballistics gel

1749
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 2: animals that also had blood inside of the ballistics gel,

1750
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: which was surprising. We didn't know that was a part

1751
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 2: of it. So that was fun too. But I'd say,

1752
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 2: if you're gonna go shoot something, the watermelon is the

1753
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: thing to do. It's a little way, so you might

1754
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,480
Speaker 2: have to buy two so you can eat the other one. Ah,

1755
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 2: the cartridge. Yeah, man, it's a short action, so it's

1756
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 2: gonna be a lightweight gun with magnum power. But don't

1757
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 2: you like about that? Yeah? I haven't gotten a hunt

1758
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 2: with it yet, Hopefully this fall I will. I'll let

1759
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 2: you know then.

1760
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 6: Cool, that's not what I wanted to do.

1761
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: Well, it's a big bull Cory. Hey, he got the

1762
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: early morning turkey too. Looks like the sun's not even

1763
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 2: over the horizon.

1764
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 4: Sent a roost rocket up there to get him.

1765
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 2: I've heard that one. Bro. That's good Randall wouldn't kill

1766
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 2: a bird off the roost. That's a beauty.

1767
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 6: Jackson says. If any of you used thermocell for mosquitoes,

1768
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 6: I never heard them mentioned on the show when the

1769
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,799
Speaker 6: topic of mosquitoes is brought up. They work like magic

1770
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 6: for Jackson.

1771
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1772
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 6: Or if you guys have any other miss tips maybe.

1773
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 2: Oh man, hard hard to beat thermoicelle along with deep

1774
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 2: everything else. But thermo cells are great.

1775
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 3: How heavy are they? I've never held one like heavy

1776
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 3: A couple carrying around on a ten mile bear hunt.

1777
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if the if the mosquitoes were really

1778
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 2: really bad, sure, because they're light. They're kind of bulky,

1779
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 2: but they're light.

1780
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 3: M Yeah, cool, I need to try one.

1781
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 6: I don't know I have any of you. Is anyone

1782
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 6: in this room hunted a mountain goat.

1783
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,440
Speaker 3: I've helped a couple of different buddies harvests.

1784
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 6: Mount Okay, so yes Esbo says that they drew a

1785
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,480
Speaker 6: once in a lifetime mountain goat, Idaho tag any tips.

1786
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 3: Get them before the snow gets too deep.

1787
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 2: Don't learn the unit man in the country.

1788
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, make sure if you're not in mountain shaped train, Yeah,

1789
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 3: get in goat shape. Make sure you know the difference

1790
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 3: between a nanny and a billy. That's tough.

1791
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Depending Yeah, he might most go tags though, aren't.

1792
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 3: Most of them are? But yeah, I might as well

1793
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 3: aim for a billy for sure.

1794
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 6: Let's see, does anyone have any good crayfish or crawdad

1795
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,520
Speaker 6: recipes from our guy Leland. He's helping run a crayfish

1796
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 6: BHA event in Arizona and he needs recipes to share.

1797
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 4: Crawfish A two f a man. That stuff's great, and

1798
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 4: then just the old crawfish boil. You gotta do that too, yeah.

1799
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 2: Uh, specific recipes, I don't know.

1800
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: I would.

1801
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 2: I would just go to cajuncooking dot com for those two.

1802
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 4: Any shrimp recipe it worked too or whatever?

1803
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 3: You know?

1804
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, go, but what's that seafood boil that they like

1805
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 2: to eat low Country or oh? That like the brand? Yeah,

1806
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's the brand is Louisiana,

1807
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 2: isn't It might be louis You were down there for

1808
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of those boils, don't you remember, Thanks Louisyana brand. Yeah,

1809
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 2: just buy like, go online and order a big box full.

1810
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 2: They got jugs of the boil. You just pour in

1811
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 2: with the water. Yeah, then you just dump all your

1812
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 2: ingredients in there. It's easy.

1813
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 6: Okay.

1814
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

1815
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 6: You know what, guys, we just set the record for

1816
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 6: the longest episode of media.

1817
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 2: We did it. We did that last time I was host.

1818
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 6: Let's go ahead and call it there.

1819
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 2: I hope everybody enjoyed it.

1820
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 6: I hope you know that you're completely even slowly moving

1821
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 6: out of frame, Yanni, and now nobody can see you

1822
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 6: at all.

1823
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 2: I hope you all enjoyed it. I had a lot

1824
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 2: of fun retelling our hunting stories and listening to Brody

1825
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,799
Speaker 2: and Corey's hunt stories. We should tell more hunt stories

1826
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 2: on this show. You like hunting stories. Make sure you're

1827
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 2: right in and say and put uh you know, attention, Spencer,

1828
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 2: we love hunting stories.

1829
01:33:58,120 --> 01:33:58,640
Speaker 3: I'll read it.

1830
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe we'll just have we'll have a two hosts

1831
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 6: show soon. It'll just be you and Spencer, and you

1832
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 6: guys can kind of compete for you know, meandering, fun

1833
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 6: hunting stories without any sort of you know, like like

1834
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 6: fenced in. And then you got Spencer trying to move

1835
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 6: the show along. I think there's a lot of contention there.

1836
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 6: I think it could be a really fun show. We'll

1837
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 6: put a pull up at the end of see which

1838
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 6: which format people like the best.

1839
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 2: I just ran a race called Don't Fence me In?

1840
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 2: So oh nice. Don't fence me in? Spencer, thank you

1841
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 2: all for listening. We'll see you next week.