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Speaker 3: Alright, let's you live on a Monday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Browns Daily. I am merely bau. He is the great Z.

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Speaker 3: Happy Saint Patrick's Day, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Happy Saint Patty's Day to you.

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Speaker 4: I got them green on there. You're good.

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Speaker 3: This is all I had. This tiny little crest is

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Speaker 3: the memorial. It's all I have. Yeah, from Meerfield down

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Speaker 3: in Columbia. It's the only thing I have. I don't have.

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Speaker 3: I don't have. I used to have homage made a

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Speaker 3: hick from French lick shirt that I had at one point,

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Speaker 3: but I gave that to my uncle Tom. I do

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Speaker 3: have one. I had one Notre Dame football hoodie that

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Speaker 3: Threes got me when he was over there when he

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Speaker 3: was an assistant and it was the bright green. But

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Speaker 3: I just I was looking at I don't have a

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Speaker 3: T shirt, I don't have a nothing, nothing, nothing. How

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Speaker 3: much do you have? I got this that looks great

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Speaker 3: dad by par great dad, love that love that.

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Speaker 4: The children's Yeah. And then I have a green macho

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Speaker 4: man Christmas shirt and I thought about wearing on Saint Paisy,

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Speaker 4: but I thought, like, you can't cross the holidays because

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Speaker 4: it says wishing you a macho Christmas or something like that.

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Speaker 4: So I went with I went with this.

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Speaker 3: Was Saint Patrick's stay big growing up in the Bay

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Speaker 3: Area for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not like you know, the Fugitive Chicago Big, which

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Speaker 4: is a great scene when he puts the little hat on.

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Speaker 4: So it's great. It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: He just weaved right in there. Couldn't find him. He's gone,

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Speaker 3: Sam Gerard jumping up and down.

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Speaker 4: I had no idea where he was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that movie's so good, so rewatchable, so rewatchable anytime

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Speaker 3: it's on.

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Speaker 4: I'm in the Big Bad is legit.

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Speaker 3: He's a good, big, great It's great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh yeah, I mean obviously on my mom's side

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Speaker 4: we have some Irish lineage.

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Speaker 3: I did not know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, but in San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Was it a is there?

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Speaker 4: I think so again, not Chicago, yeah, or I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah. There's one town in Montana that goes nuts called

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Speaker 3: Butte Montana, and they go nuts and like you if wherever,

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Speaker 3: like whatever school you go to in the state, like

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Speaker 3: they all kind of converge on Butte Montana to celebrate

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Speaker 3: Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 4: So I used to go to a great one, but

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Speaker 4: I never went Savannah.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah that I've heard they have a great one too.

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Speaker 3: Uh it's like Marti Gras, It's that type of deal. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's certain pockets that have it. I don't have any

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Speaker 3: Irish blood anywhere, So it was never anything that was

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Speaker 3: a big deal to me as a kid. It became

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, here's an excuse. But I've never partaken

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Speaker 3: in any of like the parades, the celebrations, any of it.

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Speaker 3: The best I'll do is is suck down a Guinness. Sure,

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Speaker 3: I'll enjoy that a little bit. They've got a couple

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Speaker 3: of really good whiskeys, Jamison obviously everyone knows about, but

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Speaker 3: bush Mills. The bush Mills Black is really good, and

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Speaker 3: then Red red breast is the peak. I mean, it'll

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Speaker 4: Of that is even a rare twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: If you're also inclined to be friends with people who

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Speaker 3: have that, that would be very good. They don't get

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Speaker 3: the they don't get the same love as the Scottish whiskies. No,

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Speaker 3: but at all that red rest is it's very good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is very good.

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Speaker 3: So if you are partaking today, enjoy yourself. Have a driver,

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Speaker 3: have a driver, mix in a water, those type of things.

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Speaker 3: Did you get to play golf Saturday?

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Speaker 4: I did? I had to play it played nine Friday

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Speaker 3: When did you tea off Saturday? Because I was watching

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Speaker 4: Oh, so there was a big group text because in

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Speaker 4: the morning it wasn't great, but we actually had to

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Speaker 3: Your club is not too far from where I live.

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Speaker 4: It has its own weather pattern. It must be good

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Speaker 3: Because all morning was good and then by I was

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Speaker 4: Not a drop.

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Speaker 3: I'm not twenty minutes from your.

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Speaker 4: Club, so I dropped and neither am I on the

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Speaker 4: other way, and yeah, our house had rain, but not

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Speaker 4: a drop. It was that's a remarkable job. It was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you did it. I can't believe you

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Speaker 3: got it in and set Friday was so perfect. And

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Speaker 3: then you got hit over the head. We were Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you it was. I was at points. I

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Speaker 4: got so hot. I was golfing in a T shirt,

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Speaker 4: which turns out I do that. I got a club

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Speaker 4: at a club, I got red hot in a T shirt,

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Speaker 4: a country club and a T shirt. I did no collar,

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Speaker 4: said top chef on it. There's nobody out there head

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Speaker 4: pro could be in. I mean I would have put

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Speaker 4: my my I actually had this over a T shirt.

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Speaker 4: Oh and then when I wanted to, I got too

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Speaker 4: hot as I am now, Yeah, I took it off

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Speaker 4: and I went straight T shirt with in the T shirt.

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Speaker 4: I went on a run where I birdied I think

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Speaker 4: four out of seven holes.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I played well sixty nine.

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Speaker 4: Winner on Saturday. Oh, me and the kid. It was

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Speaker 4: were ran into a buzz saw.

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Speaker 3: That's what happens. You and the kid would be pretty dynamic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, were formidable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen his act, know how his act works. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's great. I can't believe he got it in.

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Speaker 3: I thought. I mean as I was, look, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: No, it was actually it was the opposite. At Walden,

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Speaker 4: it rained from like nine to ten thirty, but not

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Speaker 4: paths anywhere, green, drive where you want, drive anywhere you want,

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Speaker 3: Well, it was dry all week Yeah, and then we

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna have a great rest of the month.

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Speaker 4: I think tomorrow and Wednesday might be the best.

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Speaker 3: I just got to get to Thursday and then well

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Speaker 3: March is cooked at that point. Yep. Yeah, we had

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Speaker 3: the full spring sports experience on Sunday. We had lacrosse

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Speaker 3: scrimmages all day on Sunday. So Bootsy started at like

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Speaker 3: he had to be there by like ten forty five.

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Speaker 4: But a warmer than sixty two. It was a weird.

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Speaker 3: It was human and it was warmer, and then a

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Speaker 3: crazy like lightning, oh nuts like that. But that so

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Speaker 3: we got some gusts as well in the Yeah, broken

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that I purade that I watched be taken well

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Speaker 3: The wind was formidable to say the least. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: but at least his sun's out. They'll take it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can see the sun on the way over.

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Speaker 4: Stopped at a primetime delivery and warehouse and saw my

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Speaker 4: guy Dave and uh George George mazzanin.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, which was great.

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Speaker 4: He had a little corn beef on the way over there.

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Speaker 4: You god, Yeah, I got to get the ring in

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Speaker 4: the uh ring in the Saint Patty's say that way.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, Rory on Saint Patty's play off

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Speaker 3: So he was down this right. You kind of blew

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Speaker 3: it yesterday and then he did it, but then he

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Speaker 4: He wanted to win it on St. Pat's. That's what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, there you go. Did the so

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Speaker 3: you had a cord corn beef sandwich is what you had?

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Speaker 4: Had a little corn beef farlier today? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is not a great cuisine.

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Speaker 4: It's not. They actually had a lamb and beef Shepherd's

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Speaker 4: That was delicious.

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Speaker 3: So did they go? Is that the mashed potatoes with

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Speaker 3: the the beef lamb and the peas and corn.

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Speaker 4: And all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, it was quite tasty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, although I do feel like and I'm not happy

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Speaker 3: But I do I can I feel.

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Speaker 4: Like the cold warm, cold warm, like I'm right back

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Speaker 4: it's like messing with my well, we're yo yelling. I

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Speaker 4: don't like the yo ya.

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Speaker 3: I don't either. I was trying to explain that to

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Speaker 3: the boys. It is the worst. I was trying to

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Speaker 3: explain it to the boys, Like you go from playing

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Speaker 3: outside to play lacrosse and forty eight degrees. You've got

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Speaker 3: to have some layers to go from this to this otherwise,

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Speaker 3: because their biggest fear we had, Remember we missed We're

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Speaker 3: little break right in February. We got derailed because of illness.

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Speaker 3: So anytime there's any hint of somebody feeling ill, they think, well,

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Speaker 3: spring break? And I'm like, we're going. If you have

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Speaker 3: to be in the cargo hall, you're going, that's it. Like,

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Speaker 3: that's that's it. So that's been the way that I've

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Speaker 3: gotten them to layer up, is if you want to go,

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Speaker 3: you have to make sure that we're healthy. Boys.

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Speaker 4: Yep, so that's where we're at.

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Speaker 3: But it was good. Look it's all quiet kids on

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Speaker 3: the NFL front. It's quiet. It feels like, from a

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Speaker 3: big picture standpoint that Aaron Rodgers is holding it all

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let me see. I'm just pulling out ESPN's

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Speaker 4: I mean great co sal straight up said tape. There's

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Speaker 4: I'm good with both. And I've said all along and

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: There's no way of knowing that I would have thought

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Speaker 4: But I would say his situation did him potentially some

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing is if a guy he was seventh,

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Speaker 3: at defensive end. And that's just the reality of the business.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason that Jersey goes around with all the

439
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Speaker 3: names on it and everybody makes fun of it. Right

440
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Speaker 3: that that's real. You don't have a list of left

441
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Speaker 3: tackle bus over the last twenty five years, of defensive

442
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Speaker 3: end bus over the last twenty five years. It's a

443
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Speaker 3: quarterback bus. You rarely even hear about any other position

444
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Speaker 3: group busting.

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Speaker 4: There's only one other one that you hear about receiver

446
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Speaker 4: receiver because it's a flashy right, But that's it. That's

447
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Speaker 4: really it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just isn't there's not a big but.

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Speaker 4: Like, nobody goes and how often do you hear Kevin

450
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Speaker 4: White's name brought up?

451
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Speaker 3: Never? You know, it's no Jalen Rager, Like, who's bringing

452
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Speaker 3: up those guys?

453
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Speaker 4: You're not right.

454
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Speaker 3: But if you draft a quarterback in that spot, then

455
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Speaker 3: you hear about it forever. It's like, well, they really

456
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Speaker 3: blew it. The position is that important. It's justified, it's

457
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Speaker 3: that important. But the best hit rate by position, it's

458
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Speaker 3: all a crapshoot.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing is I guess, if not now, when

460
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Speaker 4: and how do you think you're going to get this

461
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Speaker 4: quarterback and at what cost? At what cost?

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Speaker 3: The reality is that next year, if Arch Manning has

463
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Speaker 3: and he's not coming out, I don't think. But let's

464
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Speaker 3: say that he did. Yep, if he had the year

465
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Speaker 3: that he is supposed to have this year, and I

466
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Speaker 3: believe that he will and he looks the way that

467
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Speaker 3: you think he's supposed to look. Next year at the draft,

468
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Speaker 3: he will go number one overall. And whoever has the

469
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Speaker 3: number one pick, you could give them your entire draft

470
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Speaker 3: and they would not trade out of it.

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Speaker 4: No, And I would imagine that's the real truth of

472
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Speaker 4: the teams that have the ability to finish in that spot. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 4: there's not. I don't think there's any scenario in which

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Speaker 4: they're not moving. They're not moving off of For example,

475
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Speaker 4: when you had the Bears, who at the time of

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Speaker 4: the Bryce Young Draft, they were not ready to bail

477
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Speaker 4: on justin fields yet, right. I don't think that there

478
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Speaker 4: is a single scenario of any quarterback that would be

479
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Speaker 4: picking number one overall next year where a team would

480
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Speaker 4: be like even with arch Manny coming out.

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Speaker 3: Now, we're good, all right, let's put that. I mean,

482
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Speaker 3: it would be like New England. But they would have

483
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Speaker 3: seen two years of Drake May and they're be.

484
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Speaker 4: Picking first, so you'd punt. Yeah, so you'd say, this

485
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Speaker 4: isn't work.

486
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Speaker 3: This ain't it. Like, let's move on, Let's get something

487
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Speaker 3: from May and let's go to go to.

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Speaker 4: Arch spell trade May trade. Somebody thinks May still got anything?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, No, that's that's something that is. It's

490
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Speaker 3: very real. You can go through these drafts and you

491
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Speaker 3: can look at like where guys were picked and and

492
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Speaker 3: you think to yourself, wow, like what that What an

493
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Speaker 3: absolute bust that was. But you don't hear about it

494
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Speaker 3: the way you hear about it at quarterback. It's just

495
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Speaker 3: not close.

496
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Speaker 4: Jed was picked overall and doesn't have a team right now,

497
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Speaker 4: but you're not gonna it's not It doesn't hit the

498
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Speaker 4: same way as the field quarterback. But again, it's easier

499
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Speaker 4: to move off of them than ever. Mac Jones is

500
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Speaker 4: onto his third team, Zach Wilson's onto his what third team?

501
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 4: A lot of these guys they move. Kenny Pickett's on

502
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Speaker 4: his third team. You know, Baker was on his fourth team.

503
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Speaker 3: It was his fourth team.

504
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Speaker 4: Sam Donald was on his fourth team with the Vikings

505
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Speaker 4: by the time that it clicked.

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Speaker 3: For him Jets Carolina Syrancisco Vikings. Yeah, I think that's it.

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Speaker 4: I think that's it. You can you just gotta I

508
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Speaker 4: don't know. No, I'm not saying if you are evaluating

509
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Speaker 4: a guy, Let's just say in this building that we

510
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Speaker 4: think that you know, these quarterbacks outside of cam Ward

511
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Speaker 4: are second round quarterbacks by your evaluation, by your metrics,

512
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Speaker 4: you can't justify taking them second overall. But if you troop,

513
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Speaker 4: do bel that there is a scenario in which these

514
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Speaker 4: guys can be a top half of the league quarterback,

515
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Speaker 4: then you take them. And so what are the traits

516
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Speaker 4: you look for? What are the most important things? Do

517
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Speaker 4: you have a situation and I think we do have

518
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Speaker 4: a pretty good situation for a young quarterback to come

519
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Speaker 4: into because of the head coach, because of the system,

520
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Speaker 4: because you do have a Pro Bowl receiver, you do

521
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Speaker 4: have a Pro Bowl tight end. You know that the

522
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Speaker 4: running back position is going to be buttress. Hopefully with

523
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Speaker 4: the return of Nick Chubb and a draft pick. You

524
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Speaker 4: have a I would call it middle of the road

525
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Speaker 4: line probably right now. It's it's not the elite line

526
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Speaker 4: of the past, but you still have some very talented

527
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Speaker 4: players on that line, who are you know, aging up?

528
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Speaker 4: But and I think it has a potential to be

529
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Speaker 4: better than that. So it's I think this is a

530
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Speaker 4: pretty good situation. And I don't know if you've run

531
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Speaker 4: in this, because I'm It's all I get asked about

532
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Speaker 4: all the time. I have people who want to just

533
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Speaker 4: we just let's just load up the defense, let's love defense,

534
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Speaker 4: and let's be you know, to Trent til for Ravens,

535
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Speaker 4: and I just think it's I just think it's too

536
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Speaker 4: hard in this day and age to do that. And

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Speaker 4: by the way, we were the number one defense in

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Speaker 4: the league two years ago. Yeah, and it was way

539
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Speaker 4: more fun of a season, magical at home, but we

540
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Speaker 4: also got bounced out in the first round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And also, it doesn't happen if you don't hit the

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Speaker 3: lottery with Flacco for a month, right, you know, like

543
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Speaker 3: he was on the like who knew, you know what

544
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Speaker 3: I mean, Like, there's some dumb luck to that. For sure.

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Speaker 4: Here we need to score, and so how do you

546
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Speaker 4: get better at scoring? You get a quarterback and then

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Speaker 4: you surround him with weapons and that's that's that's the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and that's going to take us, you know. As a

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Speaker 4: nice segue is the Bengals are banking on the fact, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that they are going to and I don't know if

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Speaker 4: that's it.

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Speaker 3: We'll get that pick them up next. But what they've

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Speaker 3: done is what score we're talking about, which is score

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Speaker 3: and we'll figure out the rest of it. And that's

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Speaker 3: that's the spot that you're in the league and the

556
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Speaker 3: the you know, just to wrap up like the sure

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Speaker 3: thing conversation, like people say, you hear people say Travis

558
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Speaker 3: Hunt is the best player in this draft. He might be,

559
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Speaker 3: but he is also going to attempt to do something

560
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Speaker 3: that's never been done before. And is he both the

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Speaker 3: best corner and the best receiver in this draft? That's

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Speaker 3: what the grade says. But who knows when all of

563
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Speaker 3: a sudden he's trying to do that at the next level.

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Speaker 3: So don't be fearful about sure thing. There isn't any

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Speaker 3: There just isn't in the draft. Just go look at

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Speaker 3: any draft. You can find a half dozen more than

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Speaker 3: that first rounders who did not work out. And that's

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Speaker 3: just the reality of it one last thing here in

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Speaker 3: the opening segment. We knew this was coming, but the

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Speaker 3: Falcons retained Kirk Cousins, fully guaranteed it's ten million roster

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Speaker 3: bonus and another potential option out officially on the board,

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Speaker 3: although he could be had via trade. Clearly that's what

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Speaker 3: they're hoping for. Maybe they just keep him, which is

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Speaker 3: something you and I have said all along. The other

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Speaker 3: option would be that there's desperation in Pittsburgh or other

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Speaker 3: places to say, hey, let's go make a move. We'll

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Speaker 3: get into it. We'll have a little Buckeye spring football

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Speaker 3: talk a little bit later as well. The brackets are out.

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Speaker 3: I watched with the kids. We watched. I don't anything

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Speaker 3: about these teams the way that I used to, but

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Speaker 3: I'll still have a little bit of fun with that,

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Speaker 3: official gutter guard of your Cleveland Browns. They did it,

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Speaker 3: They're doing it. They're gonna keep them all. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how. I mean, I know how. There's cap money

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Speaker 3: to be able to do it.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna give it the old college. Try chee mad

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Speaker 6: You always.

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Speaker 3: Come up in a big way, way, big big way

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Speaker 3: out of you. Four for one sixty one for Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 3: the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. He passed

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Speaker 3: Miles by about five hundred thousand dollars a year on

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Speaker 3: that deal than t Higgins four for one point fifteen,

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Speaker 3: becoming the highest paid number two receiver in NFL history.

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Speaker 3: Didn't know they kept track of those things. Mike Caseki

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Speaker 3: got done last week. Three years, five point five, six

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Speaker 3: point five guaranteed. Trey Hendrickson is still out there which

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Speaker 3: they feel they could get that done. This is per

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Speaker 3: Jordan Schultz, who broke this stuff despite granting and permission

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Speaker 3: to seek a trade. Now, one thing, all the reporting

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Speaker 3: on that suggests that they are asking so much in

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Speaker 3: compensation for Hendrickson that he's it's not feasible for anybody

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Speaker 3: to trade to him. So then it puts him in

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Speaker 3: a spot where if he wants to get a raise,

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Speaker 3: he has to redo his contract there, So is that

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Speaker 3: in the Max Crosby realm? Would that please him?

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing. You know, the Bengals are averaging

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Speaker 4: in three players Burrow, Chase, and Higgins one hundred and

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Speaker 4: twenty five million dollars per year on the annual average

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Speaker 4: value of those contracts. That's forty five percent of the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five which is just adjusted up by twenty

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Speaker 4: something million salary cap. That's unheard up to have that

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Speaker 4: in three people.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: So if you pay him now, you're over one hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty million in four players, yes, and you have.

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Speaker 3: Over fifty percent, well over fifty.

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Speaker 4: Percent, and you would have like one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: million for the rest of your team for fifty forty

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Speaker 4: nine players yep, how are they going to do that?

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Speaker 3: Here's the this is where I am with them on this.

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Speaker 3: Everything you said is true. It's also true they could

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Speaker 3: have done this for a lot less had they just

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Speaker 3: done it in the summer, like they could.

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Speaker 4: Have done it for twenty I bet amongst Chase and

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Speaker 4: Higgins that combined would be twenty million dollars a year lower.

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Speaker 3: I think you might be right because you could have

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Speaker 3: done Chase for thirty six, so that's a five and

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Speaker 3: a half million dollar difference. But Higgins you probably could

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Speaker 3: have got for twenty four.

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Speaker 4: All right, So that's if those are the numbers. But

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Speaker 4: I thought if you did a year ago when Chase

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Speaker 4: been it like thirty.

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Speaker 3: Well he would have upended Jefferson. He was going to

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Speaker 3: always wait till after Jefferson. Jefferson was thirty five, so

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Speaker 3: we would have went thirty five to five or whatever.

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Speaker 3: So it's a five million dollars savings on that. Higgins

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Speaker 3: probably would have been for twenty five had they done that,

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Speaker 3: or less or less. So you're talking about and Higgins

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Speaker 3: is now thirty what is he thirty four? All right?

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Speaker 4: So called ten?

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Speaker 3: So just on those two, yeah, you're talking ten ten,

655
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: plus and then who knows what Hendrickson could have if

656
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: you would have extended him before he led the NFL

657
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: in sacks.

658
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: That's just to have that it tied up in three

659
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: or potentially four people is wild.

660
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: That being said, if you are a Bengals fan, you're

661
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: doing cartwheels because you have Joe Burrow and you have

662
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: the best pair of receivers in the league are on

663
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: a short list when they're healthy. They're right there with

664
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 3: Addison and Jefferson and Brown and DeVonta Smith and what

665
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: they're right there at the top of a pass catching

666
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: duo in the league. And you have Burrow and so

667
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: we'll just outscore you. So from a fan, fans don't

668
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: need to worry about all the stuff that we talk

669
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: about and worry about. That's for us. The majority of

670
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: the fans aren't worried about that. They're not worried about

671
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: that it could have been less money had they done

672
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: it before the season. They're not worried about how you

673
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: feel in the rest of the roster. They're saying, we

674
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: have a top three quarterback in the league, we have

675
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: a top three weapon in the league, and we have

676
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: the best number two receiver in the league. By our estimation,

677
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: we got a shot.

678
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: And look, people are saying, oh, well, they had these

679
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: guys and they didn't make the playoffs last year. They

680
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: I think their record in one score games was atrocious,

681
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: and those things always kind of level themselves out. If

682
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: you can score in this league, you can win. And

683
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: the fact is they are going to score a lot

684
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: week in and week out. They are going to score.

685
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 4: They're going to score. They're going to score. They're gonna

686
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: be a tough, tough out for people last year, and

687
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: think about it, you needed to change one of these outcomes,

688
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: one of these outcomes, and they go on to the

689
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: playoffs and nobody wanted them in the playoffs. No. Here

690
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 4: are the games that they lost New England Week one,

691
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: sixteen to ten at home at home Week two Kansas City.

692
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: Remember there are people complaining about the officials. They lose

693
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: that one twenty six to twenty five on the Bucker

694
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: last second field goal.

695
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: HM.

696
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: They lose Week three w Washington thirty eight thirty three

697
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: and a total just bonkers shootout. They lose to the

698
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 4: Ravens in overtime forty one to thirty eight. They get

699
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 4: blasted by the Eagles. They lose to the Ravens again

700
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 4: thirty five thirty four. They lose to the Chargers thirty

701
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 4: four to twenty seven. They lose to the Steelers forty

702
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: four to thirty eight, and then they don't lose again.

703
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: So that's of their eight losses, seven of them were

704
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: one score games or less. Now their wins win by ten,

705
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 4: win by seven, win by seventeen, win by ten, win

706
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 4: by seven, win by ten, win by eighteen, win by six,

707
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: win by two. So they had four games, so they

708
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 4: were four and seven in one score games.

709
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: They were the opposite of us last year when we

710
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: made the postseason. We won all the one score games.

711
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: That's right, they lost most of them, and that reverts

712
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: to the mean. So if that's just inverted and they

713
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: go seven to four, then they're in. And look out.

714
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: If they're seven in four and one score games, you'd.

715
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: Be eleven and twelve, twelve and five, twelve and five,

716
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: twelve and five. Did that close?

717
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

718
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: And they're miss kicks. I mean, they had a lot

719
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: of things happen.

720
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: They're keeping the scoring. You've got a score, and so

721
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: they're them by doing this, I think they're immediately slotted

722
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 4: in at second in the in the AFC North preseason wise,

723
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: just by doing just by keeping those three together and

724
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 4: keeping them.

725
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: Happy, they're slotted second in the North, in the in

726
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: in the preseason, they're there in the playoffs, and they

727
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: are a super Bowl contender because they can score points

728
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: with anybody. So if those two receivers stay healthy and

729
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: Borrow stays upright, look out because remember Higgins with a

730
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: lot of games last year too.

731
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 4: Here's the other thing. Like Bengals fans last year, I'm

732
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 4: sure are were frustrated and bummed that they didn't make

733
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 4: the playoffs, but every time they watched their team, it

734
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: was fun. Watching team that can score is a lot

735
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: more fun than watching team that can't score. Regardless of

736
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: the outcomes. Now, you want to win, You'd rather watch

737
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: a team that goes seventeen to oh and can only

738
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: score ten points a game than a team that goes

739
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: oh and seventeen scores forty. But teams that score are fun.

740
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: Those are fun teams to watch. They are They're a

741
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 4: fun team to watch and that you feel like going

742
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: in that there isn't a game that they go into

743
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: that they can't win.

744
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: What you just said, this goes back to a conversation

745
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: you and I had last over the last couple of

746
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: weeks about how you have to put your you have

747
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: to put yourself in the position of the people who

748
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: go into the building, and we talked about the middle class.

749
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: We stumbled onto that topic last week about how there

750
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: was a time period of about a decade of like, hey,

751
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: let's go to the bottom, let's pick high, and let's

752
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: get this thing right. And what we found was that

753
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: it was not a guarantee that you are going to

754
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: land your guys, because there are none. And the reality

755
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: is that what fans want, and I use the example

756
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: of if you went to our games in December at

757
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: the stadium, while we all knew in the back of

758
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 3: our mind that it would be hoove us to lose

759
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: because then you would have a higher draft pick, and

760
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: that would'll give you a chance to get out of

761
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: the situation're in from a financial standpoint. The higher draft

762
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 3: pick you got, the better chance you get to draft

763
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: good players. It's just common sense. It's just so. But

764
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: the reality is that if you go to the stadium

765
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: in December, those fans know that too, But what do

766
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: they want? They want to feel good on a Sunday

767
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: I want to feel good, and they want to win

768
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: a game. Yep. And so everything you just described about

769
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: the Bengals is every time they went to I think

770
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: it's pay Course Stadium now, every time they went there

771
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: they said, let's go get a win. Well, how are

772
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: we going to win? We're under five hundred. We got

773
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: Burrow and Chase and Higgins, and so we can win.

774
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: That's what we can do. We'll trade touchdowns with you.

775
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: It's fine, fine, fine, you do it. We can score

776
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: with anybody. That's that's the value that and that's invaluable.

777
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more. And now there are gonna be questions,

778
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 4: and I'd say justifiably, So how can they field an

779
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 4: offensive line to protect them? How can they field a

780
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: defense so they can slow anybody down?

781
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: They better hit on picks, and they have not. They

782
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: missed a ton of ones. They have got to hit

783
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: on picks. They've got to develop their own guys. They're

784
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: gonna have to play rookies in key spots. I mean,

785
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: their defensive line is gonna have to be remade on

786
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: the fly, especially if they don't keep hendrickson and they've

787
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: already lost. Sam's already gone Hubbard's already gone. He's retired,

788
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: Hilton's gone. So like they're gonna have to rebuild their secondary,

789
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: they're at to rebuild their defensive line. But they're doing

790
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: it now from the position of can you get me

791
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: one stop? Can you get me one red zone field

792
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: goal instead of a touchdown? Because we're so good offensively

793
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: that we think we'll score every time we have it.

794
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: That's the way they're viewing it.

795
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 4: Yes, they are, Yeah, I mean, and it's they're right.

796
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: They are more susceptible to a critical injury than I

797
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: think anybody. Take the quarterback out of it, because when

798
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 4: you have seventy million and two receivers, you're susceptible to

799
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: a big injury there. But they've got the quarterback. I

800
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: don't think there's anybody who don't think they can't go

801
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 4: to the playoffs this year. No, I don't know why

802
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 4: you would. You'd be foolish to think that they couldn't

803
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: go to the playoffs this year. Of course they can. Yeah,

804
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what the rest of their team's going

805
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: to look like, and at some point it's gonna get

806
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: very interesting. I would assume we all know that the

807
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: cap is malleable, and you restructure this, and you restructure that,

808
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: and you're able to put the teams around each other.

809
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 4: But they're gonna have to start operating from a cash

810
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: standpoint in a way that they have not operated before.

811
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: Yep.

812
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: But if they do that, there's no reason why the

813
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: Bengals can't win some super Bowls because that trio, and

814
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: then he had in Chase Brown, who you still have

815
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: two years left on a rookie deal, yep, as a

816
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: fifth round rookie. By the way, that quartet and you

817
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: got Gasicki, Like that's is that is Chase Higgins, Chase Brown,

818
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: Gasicki as good as AJ Brown, Devonte Smith, Saquon Barkley, Goddard.

819
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: It's in the vicinity. It's in the conversation.

820
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: It's it's in the vicinity.

821
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Barkley and Burrow.

822
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: You would say is a better quarterback the thrower of

823
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 4: the football, But Jalen Hurts is darn good and he changes.

824
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: He takes away ten percent of the necessary yards to

825
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 4: get a first down. Look, yeah, nobody else does that.

826
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 3: The beauty about what Philly did is they hit They

827
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: the reason and this is what will separate the Bengals

828
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: from the Eagles. The Eagles have hit on their picks,

829
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: so they're You think about Jordan Davis, You think of

830
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: all those guys that they've drafted, Jalen Carter, all those

831
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: guys they've drafted, the Georgia guy. You drifted a ton

832
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: of them. Yep. Most of those guys hit yep. And

833
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: that's how they won the Super Bowl. That's how you

834
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 3: could pay DeVonta Smith, j Brown, Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley.

835
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: You could pay him because you hit on your picks yep.

836
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: And you well, you could pay him and win a

837
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: Super Bowl because you hit on your picks yep.

838
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 4: Well. And they also were aggressive and restructuring, so.

839
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: They actually and they jumped it.

840
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 4: They they operate and have an owner who is willing

841
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: to pay in ways that. So far we have not

842
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: seen the Bengals, but maybe things are changing there. Maybe

843
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 4: they are.

844
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: Maybe they could have if they would have done the

845
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: Eagles thing, they would have done that, they would have

846
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: had all these guys locked up last year. Yeah, and

847
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: then you would have saved that money.

848
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: So you always want to restruct If you're going to

849
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 4: give an extension, you want to give that extension as

850
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: early as possible.

851
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, And they went like, you knew you were

852
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: giving Chase the money, what are you doing?

853
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: Right?

854
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: And remember how salty he was last year? Well, like

855
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: in camp he was like, they lied to me. They

856
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: said that I was going to get this done and

857
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: they didn't. And then he went to win the Triple Crown.

858
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: And then you're in this odd spot of almost like

859
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: rooting for your guy to not be as productive because yep,

860
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 3: where they could have just given him the thirty six

861
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: last year and save five a year on the cap

862
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: just with him, and they could have done the same

863
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: thing with Higgins, could done the same thing.

864
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 6: So but and maybe they could still have Jesse Bates

865
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 6: as well.

866
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: Jesse Back goes back, Yeah, further, you're exactly right. But

867
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: so I don't maybe this will change their thinking. But

868
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 3: if you're them, you got a shot. And that's that's

869
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: the reality of that. A couple other things, Cooper Cup

870
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 3: signed with the Seahawks, so that isn't they made odd choices?

871
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 7: Ye?

872
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I think they've made a lot of odd choices.

873
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 3: So Gino Smith, DK metcalf Out, Sam Darnold, Cooper Cup

874
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: are in that's wild. I don't understand. You said this

875
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: last week. They just have all slot receivers, Like, what

876
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: are they doing?

877
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's it's a strange roster, very strange roster.

878
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: Derek Singley became the highest paid defensive back in the

879
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: NFL three years ninety million with eight eighty nine guaranteed.

880
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: It's funny they didn't just guarantee the whole thing. The

881
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: Vikings acquired Jordan Mason from the forty nine ers in

882
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: exchange for a sixth So where's uh, where's Pedro on

883
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 3: the Niners.

884
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: He's not happy right now. He's not But I mean,

885
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: Colin Nate could be as good as it could be

886
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: anyone PF. But he's not happy right now. He thinks

887
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: that they he's like, he doesn't like they traded Jordan

888
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: Mason to the Vikings, which was I thought a pretty

889
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: nice acquisition by them, because he's like, we're gonna run

890
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: McCaffrey in the ground. Elijah Mitchell went somewhere else to

891
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: like Miami, maybe Kansas City.

892
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: To the Chief, Yeah, the city, So they're down to McCaffrey.

893
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: Isaac Grendo.

894
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: Maybe they liked Grenda.

895
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: I think there's one more name I don't remember, he'll

896
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: drive one. This is a great it's a great running back.

897
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: He'll just straft running back. That's the other thing too,

898
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: that it's a great running back draft. It's uh, it's interesting.

899
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. It is a very interesting when

900
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 4: you make in vas since like the Niners did and

901
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: a lot of those, it is very, very difficult. And

902
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 4: they're in a position where I think they have to

903
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: play a little bit of hardball with They're having to

904
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: play a little bit of hardball with Purty, which could

905
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 4: end up kind of blowing up in their face.

906
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: What do you assign for his value? How do you

907
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: do that?

908
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 4: I mean, he has been since he's been in the league.

909
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: Last year, without like everybody healthy, it was a step back.

910
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: Let's let's pull it through because I still think he

911
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 4: probably was better than you think, and maybe I could

912
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: be wrong about that, but so.

913
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: Perry, in my head, he was. He was down though

914
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: from previous.

915
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: Down from previous in one sense. But I mean, we're

916
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: talking about a guy that's still averaged eight and a

917
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 4: half yards per attempt, sixty six percent completions, thirty eight

918
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: sixty four twenty touchdowns, twelve picks, eight point five yards

919
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: an attempt, which is one of the top figures in

920
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: the league. For his career, he's sixty seven point five

921
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: sixty four touchdowns, twenty seven picks, an eight point nine

922
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: yards per attempt. Two years ago he was at nine

923
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 4: point six yards per attempt. First year was eight point one.

924
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: I mean, he's really good. The guy's really he's very

925
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 4: very He's very good. I think to me, it's kind

926
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: of like he's probably a tick above in for what

927
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: they do. He's probably gonna he probably you have to

928
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: pay him more than you paid like Baker or Darnold.

929
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 4: But how much more is the question?

930
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 5: All right?

931
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: So highest paid, Well, it's amazing. What did you do?

932
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: You even recall like what Jerry did with Dak how

933
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: far he leaped. Yeah, the highest paid player before Dak

934
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: got his deal done was average per year. So let's

935
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: just deal with that for now. Not the total guarantee,

936
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: which Alan far usurped, but in terms of average per year,

937
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: Dak is at sixty, then it's Joe Josh, Jordan Love

938
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: and Lawrence and Trevor Lawrence all at fifty five. Two

939
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: is at fifty three pretty absolutely has to be in

940
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 3: that area. He's got to be in the fifty five.

941
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: I don't think they want him. I don't think they're off.

942
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: I don't think that's where they're at.

943
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 3: How could he not be what Jordan love Makes?

944
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. By the way, he's playoff numbers sixty

945
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 4: three percent completions, six touchdowns when he is the lowest

946
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 4: interception percentage in the history of the NFL in the playoffs.

947
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 4: For anybody who's played multiple games.

948
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: Like, it's pretty wild, like Herbert's fifty two, Lamar is

949
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: fifty two, the t one six like the two and

950
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 3: Lawrence Lawrence Lawrence in love Making the same as Alan

951
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 3: Burrow is pretty wild. Yep, when you think about it,

952
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 3: I like both of those guys. It's just forty five.

953
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: Mames is forty. He does it because he did his before. Yeah.

954
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Party's got to be in the fifties, Yes,

955
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. There's got to be more than Tua,

956
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 3: I would think. So, how old is brock Party. He's

957
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 3: a four year guy at Iowa State, so he might

958
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: is he like twenty eight twenty seven?

959
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: Rock Party is twenty five and eighty day so no,

960
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 4: so no, So he'd be the youngest of these guys.

961
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: On here too, because Lawrence is twenty six to his twenty.

962
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 4: Seven December twenty seventh and nineteen ninety nine.

963
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: Anytime people does that, I just feel so old when

964
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: I hear that. When do you do those type of things?

965
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

966
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the so they got to get that

967
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: part done. One other things, New Bill's defensive tackle and

968
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: former Brown Larry Ogunjobi has been suspended six games after

969
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Speaker 3: Rory won the players this morning?

980
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: Yes, set a playoff? Yes he did. He's won two

981
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: of his four starts this year.

982
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 3: Did he he cruise in the play is a three?

983
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 3: Why do they do the players playoff?

984
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: I guess is it's just sudden death. Let's see, I'll

985
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 4: look it up. The three holes, No, what I would think,

986
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: So I think it would be sudden death, just one hole,

987
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 4: that's just till somebody wins. Yeah. Yeah, let's see. Rory

988
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 4: cruises Passpahn in playoff to win the players. He needed

989
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: only three good swings. Yes, it was one hole blast

990
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: is opening t shot, pitching wedge on to the par

991
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 4: five sixteenth to set up birdie and then found the

992
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: island green the part three seventeenth with the nine so

993
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 4: two holes where he won on seventeen.

994
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: Okay, clinched it on seventeen. There you go. So then

995
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna get the Masters here coming up?

996
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go. So it was the let's see,

997
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 4: mackerel became the eight champion. Maybe it was a three

998
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: hole playoff. I don't know, it says.

999
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 6: From what I'm reading, it looks like it was a

1000
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 6: three hole playoff.

1001
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: Yet I thought, But.

1002
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 4: Did he win on the third hole?

1003
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: Maybe he was two up? Well, no, it must it's

1004
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: got to be stroke played, so it can't.

1005
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be like.

1006
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 7: One when he hit his bogie putt on the third hole.

1007
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 7: So it went three holes. But they didn't. I don't

1008
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 7: think the other went.

1009
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah the other guy made he made a triple bow.

1010
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it went.

1011
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: It went three, and the playoff spawn was even. McElroy

1012
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: was minus four.

1013
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 4: Okay, so it was it was the full three.

1014
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 3: They had to play three.

1015
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 6: They had to play the full three holes.

1016
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Maybe they just wanted to make

1017
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 4: sure that you have to hit a shot on seventeen.

1018
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 3: It could be maybe that's what they did. It's weird

1019
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: how people weird out on that hole. I played it scary. Yeah,

1020
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: I suck the first one and forty yard. I hit

1021
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: it on the first one. I didn't. Second one. I did,

1022
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: But like, I'm terrible. It's just sitting there.

1023
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it it's big.

1024
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: It's not like you're hitting a target. It's not that

1025
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: there's plenty of space, but it's I mean, it's just

1026
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 3: visually you see all the water and all of it,

1027
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: and it gets a little panicky. You were at the

1028
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: Cavs game.

1029
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: I was, you know, they lost, bummer. I certainly think

1030
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: that you know that this team, it's probably good for

1031
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: them at some point to lose. I don't think it

1032
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: matters the regular season, No, mobilely for them on the

1033
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: other side, though they didn't have Sugs. I think has

1034
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: been out for a long time for the Magic, and

1035
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: Moe Wagner was out as well. Didn't say I missed him.

1036
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: The Magic, you know last year were tough in the

1037
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 4: playoff series against KIVS. I don't know the answer this,

1038
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: g man. You might because you seem to know a

1039
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 4: great many things. I don't know what they're Carol missed

1040
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: about thirty games, and like without him, I couldn't there.

1041
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: They feel like a rec league team, So I wonder

1042
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: what their record is with ban Cao. He didn't even

1043
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 4: have his best game yesterday, but he is just he's

1044
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: a stud. They're big, they're big. I just don't understand how,

1045
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: coming off of last year's playoff appearance, where you're like, okay,

1046
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 4: this is a team with a young, good nucleus, how

1047
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: they did nothing. They had a ton of money, I thought,

1048
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 4: and they did nothing to make their team better.

1049
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: I don't follow it closely enough to be able to

1050
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: tell you. I do think that there is that as

1051
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: an organization, The Magic. When they lost Shaquille O'Neal, yeah

1052
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: that's a long long time ago. But when they lost

1053
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: Shaquille O'Neal, the momentum that they had as an organization

1054
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: really sputtered, and they went they were trying. They had

1055
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: lined it up where they were gonna get McGrady, Grant Hill,

1056
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 3: and Tim Duncan in one summer, and they got two

1057
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: of the three the thinking Duncan state obviously, Yep, they

1058
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: got two of the three. Hill got hurt almost immediately,

1059
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: and then McGrady became a superstar and then they couldn't

1060
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: win with him, so they had to trade him. So

1061
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: they just haven't been like if you look at like

1062
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 3: the expansion those four expansion teams, like what they were

1063
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: the lottery literally that they hit with Shaquille O'Neil and

1064
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: Penny art Away to the point of playing in the

1065
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: finals to where Nick Anderson hits free throws and they

1066
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: probably maybe they win it that year to then they do.

1067
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: I mean, they were broken after that and then Shack's

1068
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: gone miss On Duncan and they've just kind of been.

1069
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: I mean, they were one of the most popular teams.

1070
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: Like you had the Charlotte Hornets, starter jackets and all

1071
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: that stuff. The magic stuff was just as popular. Yes,

1072
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: that was everywhere. It was the same color that you

1073
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: wear when you wrestle, the buzz of blue and blue

1074
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 3: with the black.

1075
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way to the summer story, the summer story.

1076
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: The story's finished, he'll finish, Okay. So the magic surprisingly

1077
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: nineteen and fifteen without Paolo Bankaro, thirteen and twenty two

1078
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: with him.

1079
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: Maybe your boy is not as good as you think.

1080
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: What was the record nineteen and fifteen without without thirteen

1081
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: and twenty two with that's odd. Maybe he's a sapper

1082
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 3: of joy in life.

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Speaker 7: Defensive rating was the highest league in the first ten

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00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 7: games that he missed too, so defensively the terrible.

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00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 4: Well, they're a big there, big, and he plays.

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00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 6: You're not worried about It's a typical duke player.

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00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: It's it's it's everything he is. Though I'm not gonna

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00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: you've said many many times that you were not disinterested

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00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 3: in the defensive end.

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00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have I'm not gonna have Ben Carro,

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00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 4: but smached you can talk about what me all you want.

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00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: I had openly didn't play defense. They also lost Suggs

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00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 4: though too right, Sugs and Wagner out for the year. Yeah,

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00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 4: I bet those guys were playing when he wasn't there.

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00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: Both defensive player. I mean Sugs is a defensive point guard.

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00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 4: They have no point guard. They drafted some kid who

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00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 4: was like I called him fake Polo. He tries to

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00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: look he looks just like him. I think his last

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00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 4: name was Black. He was a sixth overall pick, Anthony Black.

1100
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 4: Maybe he had a nice game against the Cavs. Then

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00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: he had fifteen like but they don't play and they

1102
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 4: played like they're running Cole Anthony out there still Jesus kids.

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00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: Man, he got hurt too yesterday.

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00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 4: He got hurt with a toe. And then they started

1105
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 4: some other guy that doesn't look like he belongs in

1106
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 4: the in the association. Yeah, I just play your young guys.

1107
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: But they're long. The craziest thing, and I remember thinking

1108
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 4: this in the playoffs last year. But the brown the Browns,

1109
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 4: the Calves will put either Donovan Mitchell or Garland on

1110
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: Jonathan Isaacs when he's out there. He's seven foot one. Yeah,

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00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 4: he will not post up, will not do it. They

1112
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 4: are he is a almost a foot taller.

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00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just yeah, it's crazy. All right. Second hour

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Speaker 3: of the program coming up next. We'll give our expert

1115
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: opinions on some of the brackets. Joe Reid he's going

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00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: to join us. He's back in Ohio, our buddy. Last

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00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: time we talked to him was on the on the

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00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: charger side of things. We'll get some Ohio perspective from

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Speaker 3: him coming up in this hour as well. You listen

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1131
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: Business Platform. March Madness is here. The brackets were out yesterday.

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00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: There was a time college basketball has become a one

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00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 3: month event, three week event is what it's become. There

1134
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 3: was a time that it was something that I consumed

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00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: on a regular basis. I still to consume the Buckeye

1136
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 3: stuff for the morning occupation. But in terms of like

1137
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: watching it and seeking it out, unless there is a

1138
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 3: situation where like a Cooper Flag's playing his last game

1139
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 3: at camera and or playing against Carolina so there's some

1140
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: big matchup, I'm not as engaged in it now. I

1141
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: will say my kids love it. They are locked into

1142
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: it all season long. They watch it so like they

1143
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: have takes, they have like real oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1144
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: They would like Kentucky, Kansas and Carolina. They would know

1145
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 3: those situations.

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00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 4: That's where they're Carolina get in under kind of some

1147
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 4: questionable auspices.

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00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know, like, here's the deal. Sixty eight

1149
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 3: teams got in. How much beef can you have if

1150
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: you got left out?

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00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: I think the main beef people have is that West

1152
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: Virginia and Indiana didn't make.

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00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: It okay, which like who cares? Yeah, that is to me,

1154
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: like Boise State would have a beef.

1155
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Right because they played in the Mountain West Championship game

1156
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: and San Diego State made it over them, right, and

1157
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: they did not play in the Mountain West Championship game.

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00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 3: So that's a situation where a brand bias was held

1159
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: against Boise State that allowed for North Carolina to get in. Yes, well,

1160
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: I Thinkana and West Virginia, Ohio State, come on, I

1161
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: think the issue more games.

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00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: Another issue people are taken with it is the chair

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00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: of the chair of the selection committee is Bubba Cunningham,

1164
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: North Carolina.

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00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: So having covered these a bunch, Ohio State was a

1166
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: number one overall seed in two thousand and eleven. Twenty eleven,

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00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: they were the number one overall seed in the tournament.

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00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: The committee chair was Jeene Smith, the athletic director at

1169
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: Ohio State.

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00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: There you go.

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00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 3: The path that he gave them was borderline impossible. So

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00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: usually what happens. In fact, that team, which for those

1173
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 3: who remember is Jared Sullen, the only weakness they had

1174
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: was length. They did not have it, so in their

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00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: region they would have had gotten through Kentucky and Carolina,

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00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: both of which had absurd amounts of length, and so

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00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 3: they make it. Usually if you're the committee chair, the

1178
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: road you give your team is brutal. Let's also remember

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: the making television shows yep, that's right and Tuesday Night

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00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: in Dayton, North Carolina playing I believe Texas is that

1181
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: what it is?

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00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: I think North Carolina plays San Diego State, Oh. San

1183
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: Diego State, Texas plays Zavier. Texas plays Zavia the next night.

1184
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: So you have Carolina and Texas Tuesday and Wednesday headlining

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00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 1: the primetime games in Dayton.

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00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: In the play in there you go. You're making TV shows.

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00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: Man, making TV shows. Baby, it doesn't have to be

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00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 4: that hard, no.

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00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: Wit.

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Speaker 3: So we had aau hoops yesterday late in the afternoon

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00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 3: for beams, and the boys are like, we got to

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00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: get home for brackets. I have watched brackets every year

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00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: as long as of my life. I've never missed a

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00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: bracket unveil as long as I can remember. As a

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00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 3: little kid, I would sit there and watch it. Rin

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00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: and this guy this and this is the one six

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00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,479
Speaker 3: and what's this? And so they did that. I cooked

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00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: dinner while they were watching. I kind of paid attention

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Speaker 3: from Afar, but not really really closely. And then as

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00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: soon as it's over, I always fill out the bracket,

1201
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 3: like just gut reaction, fill it out, and then that's

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00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: the bracket for me going forward. I do think, and

1203
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is fact or not, but

1204
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 3: it's quite possible that the NCAA's greatest legacy, they've basically

1205
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 3: botched everything else is this tournament and the creation of

1206
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: the bracket. Yep, I don't know if brackets existed before

1207
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: they did it. Love a bracket, but you can bracket anything.

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00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:58,479
Speaker 1: Anything, okay, undefeated movies, TV shows, yes.

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00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 4: Yes, wrestling tournaments.

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01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: We did fights to the death years ago on my

1211
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: like fifteen years ago on my Clumb show. We did

1212
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: like fights to the death, like.

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Speaker 4: We would do the Baddest Man on the planet.

1214
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 3: Baddest Man on the sea. So you can do that stuff,

1215
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: like all of that stuff wins and and the brackets

1216
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: remain undefeated. Yeah.

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01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: So so one question that I did have on there,

1218
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State's playing Montana State and the women's on.

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 3: The women's side.

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was surreal to see that pop.

1222
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 6: So do you root for Alma Mater or do you

1223
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 6: root for who you root for?

1224
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: Fighting Bobcats and Montana's basketball community is so small that

1225
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: I looked. I had no idea that they'd want it

1226
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: or anything, but I popped on their roster and I

1227
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: was like, do I know any of these last names?

1228
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 4: Like that was the answer.

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01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I did. It was one that I did recognize

1230
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 3: who I'm guessing it's a utter of somebody I played

1231
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 3: with or against. I mean, I mean I did recognize

1232
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: one last name, so that's how small that is. But yeah,

1233
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 3: they So they play in Columbus on Friday on the

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01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: women's side, and I will be in southern California. So

1235
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: like that, that connective tissue was pretty wild to see.

1236
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 3: You see that all pop out. But I think that

1237
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: if you are CBSTNT, you just you need healthy Cooper flag.

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01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 4: Yes, that's Isy Isy.

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: He's gonna play Friday, that's the plan.

1240
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, even in the sixteen game, I thought they might

1241
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 4: let them chill.

1242
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: I think you can do that anymore because sixteens beat

1243
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: ones all the time. They're all all the time.

1244
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 4: But it helpened.

1245
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: It went from never happening. So it's happened four or

1246
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 3: five times in the last it's happened several times.

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01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: Sixteen beating one. I think it's only happened twice. In

1248
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: the men's side. It was UNBC beating Virginia and then

1249
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: Fairleigh Dickinson beating Purdue, which, by the way, you know

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm from West Lafayette. I did not know that I

1251
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: am from West Lafaette, Indiana. Perdue fans twice. I watched

1252
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: that game. Uh, we were covering out in Albany for

1253
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: Kent State. We were playing Indiana, So I got to

1254
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: watch that came on the scoreboards surrounded by Hoosiers fan.

1255
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 4: It was great.

1256
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 3: But she had Zach Edie, yeah right, for two years,

1257
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: get there, got him all the way to the final

1258
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 3: last year. Now, I used to love it. I do

1259
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: think you're at a point where you talk about Purdue,

1260
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 3: you think about Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State. We're obviously

1261
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 3: in Big Ten country. The Big Ten needs to try

1262
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 3: in basketball. They got to pay coaches. You gotta get

1263
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: nil fourteen SEC teams got in fourteen and fourteen of

1264
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 3: six Yeah, fourteen of the sixteen, all but two got in.

1265
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: They will make twenty six million dollars as a league

1266
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 3: in the first round, and then they'll make two million

1267
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: dollars a win. There forward. With that, you just think

1268
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 3: about the bite at the apple that you're getting when

1269
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 3: you're that conference, the Big Ten at eighteen eight teams

1270
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 3: get in. One other thing on that side there used

1271
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: to be that there still is the NIT and there's

1272
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 3: another thing called the college Basketball Crown. Those two things

1273
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 3: Ohio State, Rutgers, several of them said no to playing

1274
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 3: in those, and people are like, well, why don't you

1275
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: want to play in those? Why do you think? Why

1276
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 3: do you think they don't want to play them? If

1277
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 3: you had to guess college football, Nate, I'm making you

1278
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 3: college basketball Nate.

1279
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 4: I'm not as much college of basketball Nate as I use.

1280
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 3: You know why, I'll answer, they don't have rosters. They

1281
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: don't have teams to play in them. The portal opens

1282
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 3: next week. They don't have teams.

1283
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 4: I would not have known that.

1284
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: They don't have ten kids that will put on Scarlett

1285
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: and Gray and go play in Las Vegas on Fox

1286
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: in the College Basketball Crown. They don't have ten guys

1287
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 3: on the roster.

1288
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: So it's not even the n I T anymore.

1289
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 3: There is the nit. But Fox created this thing with

1290
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 3: their television partners called the College foot Basketball Crown.

1291
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 4: I win this year. Okay, this random.

1292
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: I've heard it's being played in Las Vegas because Cleveland

1293
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: States in that. Yeah, so this is just nonsense. So

1294
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 3: so it's Fox found there. It's their television partner's got

1295
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 3: the most bite, So it was it's all in Las Vegas.

1296
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be big ten, big twelve and

1297
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 3: Big East. We're gonna fill it.

1298
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 4: Whoever those teams tournament.

1299
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, two Big Ten teams are playing in a tournament

1300
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 3: other than are playing postseason basketball, so none of them

1301
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: are playing in the n There's only two that are

1302
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 3: playing in the College Basketball Crown. It's Penn State and USC.

1303
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 3: Everybody else in the league. The other eight teams in

1304
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: the Big Ten said no, we're good in large part

1305
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: because they can't field teams. That's why. That's how crazy

1306
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: that sport got. The portal is open during the tournament,

1307
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 3: so you could have a kid say I'm not playing

1308
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 3: the final four unless you get me another million bucks.

1309
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 3: That could happen.

1310
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 4: That's wild. That's wild.

1311
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

1312
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: It was like the same thing when in the college

1313
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: football playoff with Bo Pribula was like, I don't want

1314
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: to go, but I kind.

1315
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: Of have to. Now's the time.

1316
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's broken, it's crazy.

1317
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 3: It did I had this from uh I want to

1318
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 3: read at work or old buddy? Oh no, no, it was

1319
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 3: enough from the clown and give he's out. So all

1320
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 3: answers question, if you have a few minutes on Brown's

1321
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: Daily today, could you just give us a rundown as

1322
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: to why Buckeye hoops is so pathetic and what it

1323
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: will take to get them back to the tourney and

1324
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: some semblance of respectability. Thanks ten year malaise is the

1325
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 3: kind of the answer to it. They really haven't been

1326
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: in the mix since kind of the middle to the

1327
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: end of Thad Mada's run, and they have a lot

1328
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: of things going against them, number one. I mean, there's

1329
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 3: so many factors to it. Thad's a cent happened while

1330
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: Kentucky was down, and while Indiana was down. So I

1331
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 3: don't know if Connolly and Odin go to Ohio State,

1332
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: if Caliparry's at Kentucky, but he wasn't there yet. It

1333
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 3: was Billy I can't remember what his name was. But

1334
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 3: they got a hider guy from Texas, A and M

1335
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 3: and he fell on his face. But Kentucky wasn't Kentucky.

1336
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 4: Billy Coach, I remember. It was Florida Billy.

1337
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: The Great Billy d No, not him, Billy Gillespie I

1338
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 3: think was the name. Okay, So that that they took

1339
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 3: full advantage of that. The next part of the Thad era,

1340
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 3: the Sollinger era, those are all Ohioans, so all Ohio

1341
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 3: red was the AAU team of record at that point

1342
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 3: and they won national championships AAU and that was Jared Sollinger.

1343
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 3: Jordan Cybert was on that team, but it was Ohioan's

1344
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: so like Deebler Sellinger, Buford Lighty, all those kids are Ohioans.

1345
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 3: So Thad kept the best players in Ohio in Ohio

1346
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 3: that started to fall off and he started to miss

1347
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 3: on those guys. Holtman got some of them, but missed

1348
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: on some of them. Then they weren't engaged in nil

1349
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: because the nil at Ohio State goes to football first.

1350
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 3: Kind of that simple. Yeah, if you're gonna pay for

1351
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: something down there, it's gonna be that ye. So that's

1352
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: the other part of it. Another part of it is

1353
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 3: they play in a bad arena. It's too big. It's

1354
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: it's not a welcoming blake for them. Way too big.

1355
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 3: It's twenty thousand yeah shots, way too big.

1356
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: It is a lot of cement.

1357
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: Brother, it's all cement. There's no windows. It's awful and

1358
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 3: compared to Nationwide Arena where the Bluejackets played down there,

1359
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 3: which is bright and airy and all of those things.

1360
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: So you've got a bad building that's off campus. So

1361
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 3: there's no environment. It's adjacent to camp. It's campus, but

1362
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: it's a long way from student living and there's no

1363
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 3: place to park. It's a mess.

1364
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 4: I saw Batista retire from the WWE.

1365
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: Really yeah, Yeah, it's not good. So there's a bunch

1366
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: of factors to it. The thing that really sucks. And

1367
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: I've known the Debler family for a long time and

1368
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: I hope Jake kids it turned around. But like they

1369
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: probably could have hired Dusty May and he's the coach

1370
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 3: at Michigan and they just won the Big.

1371
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: Ten yesterday and they're a five seed.

1372
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: That's the way the league thinks of the Big.

1373
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 4: Ten are aren't there Big ten teams ahead of them?

1374
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: Michigan State is Maryland might be Maryland's a four. Yeah,

1375
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 3: so they were all were That's part of that. Part

1376
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: of the problem with that, though, is is the Big

1377
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 3: Ten insists on playing well. CBS insists on playing the

1378
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: Big ten game leading into the brackets, so much of

1379
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 3: the brackets already decided by the time their tournament in.

1380
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 4: The finals, Wisconsin wasn't it.

1381
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: And then they got a brutal draw. I think it's

1382
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: a brutal draw in the first round. You see San Diego.

1383
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: They're two and a half point favorites as a five.

1384
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jos, I'm a guy.

1385
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 3: I think Aron's gonna get him.

1386
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 4: There's thirteen and a half point favorites.

1387
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 3: I think Akron's legit. I wouldn't be surprised if they

1388
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: got him. Really, dicey, Well, first of all, we should

1389
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 3: be rooting for them, be.

1390
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 4: Dowt Bear, Dowago family. I've been an Arizona fan since

1391
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 4: I've had.

1392
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 3: That's fine, that's fine, But I mean, in terms of

1393
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns radio show, should be rooting for Akron

1394
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 3: and that they're in our backyard, right.

1395
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 4: Not you specifically, I am on the chap No.

1396
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: I understand that as an organization we've been good lun adjacent.

1397
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 4: I'm rooting for Arizona.

1398
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 3: Remember now, Johnny Gross got Ohio to the Sweet sixteen

1399
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: and damn near knocked off Carolina in the Sweet sixteen.

1400
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 3: He knows what he's doing.

1401
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 4: Seven thirty five. Then he got Wisconsin Montana on the

1402
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: that's a that'll be while we're on the air March twentieth.

1403
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 3: It won't be while we're on the air, it's.

1404
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 4: While album on the air. Yeah, without you, very sad

1405
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 4: Saint Mary's as well, my parents alma mater. There you

1406
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 4: go playing Vanderbilt seven to ten. Yeah, I think Cleveland,

1407
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 4: I think Akronsland.

1408
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to take Nana.

1409
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 4: I'm sure she wants to go see a college basketball

1410
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 4: it's her alma mater. I don't think she. I don't.

1411
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 4: She could not that. I'm gonna use it properly. She

1412
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 4: could not care less.

1413
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 3: So many people mess that up.

1414
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 4: They do it all the time, all the time. Covin sense.

1415
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 4: We have it, We've got it, We've got it in spades.

1416
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 3: All right, there you go. I got I got Duke

1417
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 3: winning it, I think, I think, And a big gibe

1418
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: is not here, so he won't get to be able

1419
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: to bask in that. But I'll do it for Ducal.

1420
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah you Dukie too, keV Yeah, I am. I think

1421
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 3: the Cooper flag part of it is would be good

1422
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 3: and off of what happened on White Lotus, Duke needs

1423
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 3: a little bit of good luck.

1424
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 4: Well, they got the meme. Now things don't go well,

1425
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 4: yes they do they geezeez, it's a lot going on

1426
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 4: an episode that was a good Lotus.

1427
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 3: It's the last it's uh, it's sports you care about

1428
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 3: and HBO shows on Sunday at nine o'clock or like

1429
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 3: the last things, you can't DVR if you care about it,

1430
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 3: you have to watch it. Well, that's because it is

1431
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 3: on demand though, so you can. In terms of they

1432
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: do they drop them every week week? Oh that's smarter them.

1433
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeaheah, that's smarter them to do that. That's the

1434
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 3: best chance you got.

1435
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 4: By the way, did we watch any more this weekend?

1436
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: No? That I had my wife. We have a new rule.

1437
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 3: I enacted a new rule in the house. NBC can

1438
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 3: only have two buddies over. Anything more than two is

1439
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: utter chaos, utter chaos. What happens if it's more than two,

1440
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 3: like just disaster, like two o'clock in the morning, me

1441
01:10:55,320 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 3: going downstairs and going like enough enough it, We're done.

1442
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 3: So I even cursed in front of them, and I

1443
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 3: have coached many of them. I never curse in front

1444
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 3: of them. Cursed in front of them, first time I've

1445
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 3: ever done that. So annoyed would be thrown off the

1446
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: FC FCC.

1447
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 4: Why don't want you to say it out loud? Give

1448
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 4: me the first letter I can. I can.

1449
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 3: There was both there There was both a BS and

1450
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 3: an f an. F an f what do they do

1451
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 3: to draw on f Nothing that can be shared. I

1452
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: don't want to share it. That's fine. They were they

1453
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: were misbehaving, so that that solved it and that was it.

1454
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: But you get more than two and it gets loose

1455
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 3: in a hurry. So that wrecked my Friday, so we

1456
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 3: couldn't do it then, and then uh Saturday we had so.

1457
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 4: They just like are they just they wrap scallions?

1458
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: They're just pressing. That's what if you get more than bound,

1459
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 3: they just want to see what they can do. And

1460
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 3: here's a couple that are just really loose, really loose,

1461
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 3: and it's like, geez.

1462
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 4: So do you do you have to at that point?

1463
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 4: Do you have to you know, not necessarily Christmas story

1464
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 4: style and say do you know where he heard this?

1465
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 4: Or but do you have to? Do you ever feel

1466
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 4: like you have to talk to And I'm asking this

1467
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 4: from a serious, sadpoint I of courtunate I have not

1468
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 4: had to have this, but like if some kid was

1469
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 4: at my house it was a teenager and I knew

1470
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 4: the parents, which I'm assuming you know the parents, yeah,

1471
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 4: and the kid was like constantly doing like bad stuff,

1472
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 4: I feel like I would have.

1473
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 3: To Oh no, no, Yeah, it didn't reach to the

1474
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: point where like, but I've I let it all be

1475
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 3: known to They were just being loud, like they weren't

1476
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 3: doing anything like totally illicit. It was just two o'clock

1477
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: in the morning. I'm tired. Shut up.

1478
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, baby, shut the front door.

1479
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 3: Shut it. Yeah. And so they weren't doing anything that

1480
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 3: was like breaking things orthing like that. They're just being

1481
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 3: rambunctious idiots.

1482
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 4: Have respect.

1483
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm tired, go to bed. So so I did

1484
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 3: have a conversation with all of them the last time

1485
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 3: that which is like three months ago, and I said,

1486
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 3: I just want you to understand this. If you do

1487
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 3: this and you get caught, I will call your parents,

1488
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 3: no matter what hour it is, and I will say

1489
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 3: come get your child, or I will drive you home

1490
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 3: and leave you in the front yard. Like I'm not

1491
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 3: Was this for like dealing motion, Yeah, like I'm done

1492
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: with it, knock it off. So that's where we're at. Thirteen, Baby,

1493
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 3: that's got to hurt you to drop. They're all little alphas.

1494
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 3: They're all a little big shot act in punks. It's brutal.

1495
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 4: Thirteen.

1496
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we're at.

1497
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,480
Speaker 4: Oh to be young again. McDowell.

1498
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,280
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Speaker 3: us again. Joe, we just talked to you a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks ago. You were we were on Chargers and

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Speaker 3: having all that. So welcome back to Ohio, my friend.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate it. Good to be back and

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Speaker 5: nothing like taking a red eye Friday morning and immediately

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Speaker 5: being in Berea later that day for the Miles Garrett

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Speaker 5: press conference too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right to work, buddy, is how that works? Well,

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Speaker 3: I guess let's start there. You brought it up in

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Speaker 3: terms of Miles and the return. What was kind of

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Speaker 3: your read of what you saw Friday.

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Speaker 5: I think it was one of those where, you know,

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01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 5: Miles admitted that making he was emotional at the end

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01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 5: of the season and everything. I was a little surprised

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: that he said the past season was more was his

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01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 5: most frustrating year in the league, which you would think

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01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 5: is rookie year going on in sixteen, that might be

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01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 5: the most frustrating year that anybody would go through in

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 5: the league. So I think that maybe with the injuries

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01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 5: and everything and the expert expectations, it probably trump that

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01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 5: as far as as far as frustrating this past season.

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01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 5: But I think kind of explaining how him and Andrew

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01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 5: Berry got to a more better understanding in a commonplace

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01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 5: as far as philosophy, and also you know, kind of

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01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 5: saying too that he appreciated Jimmy Haslum being out of

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,799
Speaker 5: the Fray for the most part, especially after the reports

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01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 5: came that Jimmy said, deal directly with Andrew Berry and

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01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 5: try not to go through him. So I think in

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01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 5: the end, all's well, that ends well. He was in

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01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 5: the building Thursday to help possibly recruit Russell Wilson, So

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01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 5: we'll kind of see how the next six seven weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Joe, when you mentioned you talking about Miles being back,

1544
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 4: that was one thing the Browns needed to lock up.

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01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 4: They did. Now it's finding the quarterback. What do you

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 4: kind of make of so far? You've got Kenny Pickett here,

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: that's it, that's the list. You got the number two

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01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 4: pick of the draft. How do you kind of see

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01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 4: this quarterback search and for an organization that has been

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01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 4: desperate to find a franchise quarterback for many, many years,

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01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 4: how do you see it all kind of playing out?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know kind of right now when you look

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 5: at the top quarterbacks, they're all they're all older. I

1554
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 5: think right now it's Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, and Joe

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01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 5: Flacco possibly in the mix too. So it's only a

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01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 5: band aid. It's only a one one year maybe at most.

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Speaker 5: To your situation where you've got a draft a quarterback

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01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 5: this year. Now, if you get a Wilson. Maybe that

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01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 5: opens up things at two with an Abdull Carter or

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01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 5: a Travis Hunter, gives you more leeway that way, where

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01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 5: maybe in the second and third round you can look

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Speaker 5: at quarterback quarterbacks there because I think we've seen through

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01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 5: throughout the league that your second and third round quarterbacks

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01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 5: have had success. But I think it all depends on

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01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 5: it just seems like throughout the league everybody's waiting on

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01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers to see how all the dominoes fall that way.

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Speaker 5: So until we get clarity on nat, I think there's

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Speaker 5: there's gonna be a lot of questions too. Basically, the

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01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 5: only thing that pass couple of days that I think

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Speaker 5: opened up was that Kirk Cousins is off the market

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01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 5: after getting his salary bonus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Nathan I stumbled into a topic last week

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01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 3: that the more and more we think about it, it

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01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 3: feels like this is what's happened, which is that the

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01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 3: NFL for a while was trying to get to the

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01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 3: bottom and draft number one overall, number two overall, and

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01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 3: and that was your way to try to get back.

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01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 3: But there's a penalty that comes with that, a pound

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 3: of flesh for a fan base comes with an organization,

1580
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 3: all of it, especially if you miss and you don't

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01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 3: hit it out of the park. Conversely, when I think

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01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 3: about the Darnald contracts, the Baker contract, the Gino Smith

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01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 3: trade and eventual contract, Danny Jones even being able to

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01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 3: make seventeen million justin fields is getting thirty million guaranteed

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Speaker 3: to be a starter. They're all band aid ish quarterbacks

1586
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 3: or shots at a band aid ish quarterback. But it's

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01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: also kind of a move, kind of to the middle

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01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 3: class in terms of, hey, no, we're not gonna pick.

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Speaker 3: We may not pick number one in the draft, but

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Speaker 3: it's more fun to be seven and ten or have

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01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 3: a ceiling of ten and seven than it is to

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01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: go three and fourteen. And I'm curious as you saw

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Speaker 3: like this, because you're exactly right, Rogers holding it all up,

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Speaker 3: But like, what differences would Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: for that matter, even make to a team that they

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Speaker 3: join other than to just kind of be middling.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, I pick to others too, is everybody looks

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 5: at the first round, and deservedly so. But you know,

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Speaker 5: covering the Chargers the past year, when Joe Hortez came

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Speaker 5: in out of Baltimore. In looking at that philosophy, you

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Speaker 5: really got to hit on the entire draft class. I

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Speaker 5: mean the Chargers, everybody looked at Joe alt like, okay,

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01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 5: it's the bedrock of that class. But they hit in

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Speaker 5: the second round with Laden McConkie near the top of

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Speaker 5: that round. Uh, they got the two cornerbacks in the

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Speaker 5: fifth round. So it's really you build through the draft

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Speaker 5: in depth of classes to hopefully you know, rookie rookie

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Speaker 5: quarterback contracts are a great thing, especially with first round picks.

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Speaker 5: But if you got a lot of rookie quarterbacks that

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Speaker 5: you got a lot of rookie contracts to on that

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01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 5: roster where you get some starters, I think that helps.

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Speaker 5: That helps build in other areas too, And I think

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Speaker 5: especially with the Chargers too, in three first round draft

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01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 5: picks on that on that offensive line. Now, Rareshaun Slater

1615
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 5: will come to this year and they got to figure

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01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 5: out what Zion Johnson. But it's really about depth of

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01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 5: drafting that entire draft class and making sure those contracts

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01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 5: and everything work and then that way you can build

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01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 5: around a rookie quarterback and everything and do well with that.

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01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 5: But you know, it's a it's an interesting free agent

1621
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 5: quarterback class this year, and it's a it's an interest

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01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 5: it's an enterreting interesting draft class too, where it's just

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01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 5: it's just hard to see that bona fide you know

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01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 5: this guy's gonna make it. There's no question. This is

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01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 5: the stud QB where you know, you look back at

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Speaker 5: that twenty twenty class with Burrow Herbert and I mean

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01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 5: two is starting to come on too, But you got

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01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 5: two bonafied guys there, and also Jalen Hurts who's had

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Speaker 5: two Super Bowls too. I don't I just don't think

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Speaker 5: the depth of that class this year rivals maybe of

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01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 5: past years.

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Speaker 4: It's good to have the number two pick because if

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01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 4: you do like somebody, you're right there. You can figure

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01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 4: out a way to get to number one and get them. Well,

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01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 4: they do have a bona fide franchise quarterback down in Cincinnati,

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01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 4: and some people say, if you have that guy, you

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01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 4: certainly don't need to put over sixty five million bucks

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01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 4: into two wide receivers. But that's what the Bengals have

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01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 4: just done. Are you shocked at the contracts that were

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01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 4: handed out for Jamar Chase and to Higgins not that

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01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 4: they weren't deserving, but because it's the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Jamar no.

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Speaker 5: Because when they say we're going to make somebody the

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01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 5: highest paid player in the league and we're going to

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01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 5: pay this guy, generally Mike Brown does it. And because

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01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 5: I think most people forget and granted was fifteen sixteen

1647
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 5: years ago that there were two or three years where

1648
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 5: Carson Palmer was the highest paid player in the NFL,

1649
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 5: and they went out and said, we're going to do

1650
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 5: this and sign them and make sure everything's set, and

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01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 5: they did it. I thought that the average per year

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01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 5: would top Miles and it did by two hundred and

1653
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 5: fifty two hundred and fifty thousand a year, and the

1654
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 5: guaranteed money was less than Miles, which which basically is

1655
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 5: in the in the Bengals philosophy and stuff. Now T Higgins,

1656
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,799
Speaker 5: that one did surprise me, and you know, Nathan watching

1657
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 5: throughout the league and everything too, not just for the

1658
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 5: Bengals but throughout the league. How rare it is that

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01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 5: you can resign somebody on a second franchise tag. I

1660
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 5: mean that hardly happens anymore, or even getting somebody to

1661
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 5: resign on a first franchise tag. Your odds go way down,

1662
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 5: so they the way they were able to do that

1663
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 5: was good. And I do think in this one instance,

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01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,520
Speaker 5: having the same agent for both jamar Cha Anti Higgins

1665
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 5: definitely helped out in this case. And they've got the

1666
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 5: market set. Now can they get re signed Trey Hendrickson

1667
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 5: with what edge rushers have been getting the past week

1668
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 5: and a half to two weeks. I really doubt that.

1669
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 5: I really doubt that one. That's gonna be a large

1670
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 5: average average per year to be able to get that done,

1671
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 5: especially with what the Bengals just handed out.

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01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe, and you know, Nathan and I were talking

1673
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 3: about this or in the previous hour of the program,

1674
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 3: like could they have done this last summer and saved

1675
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 3: a bunch of money year to year on the cap? Yeah,

1676
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: they could have. They probably could have got Chased done

1677
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 3: for thirty six last year and Higgins fro maybe in

1678
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 3: the mid to high twenties. You probably could have got

1679
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 3: that done. But the reality is they did it. And

1680
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: if you're a fan of the Bengals, you now have Higgins, Chase,

1681
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 3: and Burrow for the next four together. And as we

1682
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 3: know you watched Herbert before that with the Bengals like,

1683
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 3: if you have one of those guys, if you have

1684
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 3: that type of offensive, you can contend with anybody. So

1685
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 3: it's yes, they could have done things differently, but in

1686
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 3: the end, they win here because they keep these guys together.

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, they win, and you've got to You've got a

1688
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 5: fan base that is energized and you know that there's

1689
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 5: faith in them. Again, Now the biggest key to and

1690
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 5: excuse me, and I think Duke Tobin has has shown

1691
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 5: it in the past that Duke Tobin is a pretty

1692
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 5: good drafter, But now that's going to be the key.

1693
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 5: With as much money that you have invested in that offense,

1694
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 5: drafting wisely on defensive players, and bringing in and Al

1695
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 5: Golden who's spent the past couple of years in college

1696
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 5: and at an Ordered Dame I think will I think

1697
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 5: will definitely help. But you're gonna have to find some

1698
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 5: value not only in the draft and in free agency

1699
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 5: too in terms of building that building that offense because

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01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 5: I mean that defense, because you know, it's really hard

1701
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 5: in this league to keep winning forty one to thirty

1702
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 5: eight shootouts every week. Eventually the bill's gonna come due

1703
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 5: on that, so they need it. That's gonna be the

1704
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 5: next aim now, you know, figuring out something with Hendrickson,

1705
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 5: but also trying to build a stouter defense so that

1706
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 5: so that everything doesn't look like Arena football down there.

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01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 4: When you make decisions like this, and it's understandable why

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01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 4: they did it, you have to become good at drafting.

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01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 4: Is there any rumblings at all that maybe this is

1710
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 4: an organization that needs to look in a different direction

1711
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 4: at that spot because they've spent a lot of draft

1712
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 4: capital on the defensive side of the ball and it's

1713
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 4: been pretty much disaster.

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01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, they usually get in runs like that because I

1715
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 5: can remember shortly after I left there, they they did

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Speaker 5: a ton of picks on the offensive line and that

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Speaker 5: that one horribly wrong too. And you know some would

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01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 5: debate too that you know, they still haven't fixed the

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01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 5: offensive line and that's still a work in progress. So

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Speaker 5: I mean, they've at least they've got the passing came down,

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01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 5: but uh, you know, defense running back so that Joe

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01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 5: Burrow's not passing at sixty five sixty six percent of

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01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 5: the time, making sure you can protect him, and also

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01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 5: building some defensive depth to I diink Tobin has done

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01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 5: a better job. Maybe maybe throughout the recently with maybe

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 5: being better in terms of draft, but also you know,

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Speaker 5: with the scouting and and banking on assistant coaches and

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01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 5: stuff is as much as they do too. Hopefully without

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01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 5: Golden and that new staff and also having a new

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01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 5: offensive line coach that will help to in terms of

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01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 5: maybe getting upgrades and better class of prospects and scouting

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01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 5: that way.

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Speaker 3: Joe, thank you so much for the perspective. Welcome back,

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01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 3: and we'll do it again soon.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, No bron Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: All right there he goes Joe Ridi, Ohio sports writer

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Speaker 3: at the Associated Press. So much more to come, so

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01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,639
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Speaker 3: Shepty.

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Speaker 5: With this.

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01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 3: So far, there have been no trades involving first round

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01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 3: picks in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. This is

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01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 3: the closest to the start of the NFL draft in

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01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 3: which there have been no raids for first round picks

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01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety three, when five days before that draft,

1750
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 3: the Chiefs traded a first round pick to the San

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01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers in exchange for Joe Montana M

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01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 3: M fantastic A number one in nineteen ninety three. How'd

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01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 3: that make you feel?

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01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 4: I was very angry at them. I became a Chief sin.

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01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 3: Did you Were you old enough to know if there

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01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: was chatter about him being traded or oh.

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01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 4: No, it was all so it was like, yeah, yeah,

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01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 4: that was the big storyline and that it basically made

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 4: me hate Steve Young forever?

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01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 3: Was there a do you remember any other teams in

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 3: on him?

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Speaker 5: He?

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01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 4: I think they let him pick. If you remember the

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01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 4: Chiefs at that time, he went there, Marcus Allen went there.

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01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 4: A lot of like what I would call veterans going

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01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 4: for one last run at glory went there. I'm pretty

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01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 4: sure mart wasn't Marty the coach.

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01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 3: Marty was the coach.

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01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Marty was the coach. And they made it, I

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01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 4: want to say in ninety four they made it to

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01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 4: the AFC Championship Game and lost.

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01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 3: So Montana. There were only two other seasons. There were

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01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 3: only two teams who were in on him. Was the

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01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 3: Chiefs and the Cardinals.

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01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 4: He was in the car.

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01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 3: No, the Chiefs who needed a quarterback Steve de Berg.

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01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 3: It was the previous quarterback. Remember that giant thing that

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01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 3: wasn't on his finger?

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01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 4: He had that he wasn't He with the Niners too

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01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 4: at one point.

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01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 3: I think you're right.

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01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, And maybe even with the Bucks when they got

1783
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 4: Steve Young could.

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01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 3: Have been Yeah. Montana revealed he would have made more

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01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 3: money with the Cardinals. They were offering a more lucrative

1786
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 3: trade offer to the forty nine ers and they let Yeah.

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01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 3: So he picked the Niners initially asked for a first,

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01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 3: a second, and a third.

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Speaker 4: And then he went to the Chiefs and two years there, right,

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01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it's two years with the Chiefs and

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01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 4: he took them to in ninety four. I want to

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01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 4: say they was ninety three, ninety four and ninety four.

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01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 4: I think they went to the AFC Championship Game.

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01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 3: When they made a Pro Bowl in ninety three his

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01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 3: first year with the Chiefs. Yep, yeah, that's it. But

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01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 3: we have had no drafts, no first round pick drafts traded, rather,

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01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 3: no trades of first round picks.

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01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 4: Yet.

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01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 3: Hey, uh, your girlfriend went to Uranus Fudge? How was it?

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01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: Yes, she did. She said it was an odd experience.

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01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: I bet I showed you the picture you did.

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01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: The the fudge itself excellent, of course, very good from Uranus,

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01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: the Prollein pecan, fantastic peanut butter.

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01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 4: It's like a.

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01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 6: Dark chocolates.

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01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 4: I know it is, but it is.

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01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 3: I'm aware fudge is from Uranus. That's where it's from.

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01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 3: That's what the signs saying. That's what it says on

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Speaker 3: the front.

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Speaker 6: That's what people are saying.

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01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like, yeah, he loved the name of it.

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01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 3: NBC was a big fan of the name, did so.

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01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 3: And that's all they sell in there is fudge.

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Speaker 6: They sell more than fudge, like gear I suppose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they sell like mining helmets with Uranus fudge factory

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Speaker 1: on the side.

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Speaker 4: That's something that's great.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the same, like ten years

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Speaker 3: from now, is it's still there.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like a one stop right off the

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Speaker 1: pace of that gigantic across.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite the juxtaposition. What just what a visual,

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Speaker 3: What a what a country we live in the next

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