WEBVTT - Jill’s Last Cheeseburger

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bescher Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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<v Speaker 1>and we are here today with Jill. Jill, welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Bechler Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. It is fabulous to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a while. When was the last time

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<v Speaker 1>we had you on? What was it for? Do you remember?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea?

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<v Speaker 1>Did co hosts?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Well? Yeah, then you were gallivanting for a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit and I took over. So yeah, I've been really

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<v Speaker 2>picking up a lot of your slack.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Well what are you doing? You left Jill hanging all alone?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had some other people. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the goat at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah he was, he was, Yes, I see, I see.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on from that, Jill, we saw you in I

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<v Speaker 1>think Newport a while back, right, was it that we

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<v Speaker 1>saw you? And you I remember you had a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>that had a mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, very good, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what happened to that boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 2>Well you could probably hell, he dumped me at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>At the beginning of this year, yes, yeah, okay, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so tough start to the year, but you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>turned it around.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, if you want it. That's a good way

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<v Speaker 2>to put it. Yeah, I mean, but honestly, like after

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<v Speaker 2>that relationship, it took me probably about like thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 2>to get over it. So sorry, but like I was,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was it was time. It was like actually

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<v Speaker 2>a really good positive thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So then so then leading up, so break up

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the year, vechlor of Paradise. People don't leave

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<v Speaker 1>I think like till end of May.

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<v Speaker 3>Ish, No, it was earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>It was earlier than April.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, were you dating in that period?

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<v Speaker 2>No? God, no, no, no, I wouldn't dare No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not interested in like we'll get into the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, well let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not interested in dating off of reality television.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't date muggles. No, I'm kidding. No, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just so sick and twisted out there, Like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to do the dating apps. I haven't been on

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<v Speaker 2>the dating apps since I was in college, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So and also like oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's what I call non bad like non

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<v Speaker 2>Magic Bachelor Nation people's muggles. But no, I actually should

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<v Speaker 2>only exclusively date muggles. But yeah, it just the dating

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<v Speaker 2>world is really bad, and especially in Newport, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I know everybody, it seems, and so I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to get on the apps. I was just like in

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<v Speaker 2>my I was like hot girls summer, hot girl summer loading.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually Bachelor Paradise called me two weeks after I

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<v Speaker 2>got dumped, so I was like, eyes on the prize, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>eyes on the prize.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's crazy. Wow, they were fast. How did you

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<v Speaker 4>meet your ex?

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<v Speaker 2>Then? Oh I met him through my mom. My mom

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<v Speaker 2>set us up.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, crazy, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I do remember you saying this.

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<v Speaker 4>So you get dumped, your like, this sucks, but for

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<v Speaker 4>the best. And then you answer the phone and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>Jill Rumor has it you're single?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to come back? What was your initial reaction?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'll take the coal. You know, I'll take

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<v Speaker 2>the coal. But I you know, obviously you guys have

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<v Speaker 2>been to Paradise like in that, you know, in play

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<v Speaker 2>Esque and data, and so my last experience, I wouldn't say,

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<v Speaker 2>was like gleaming. So I was a little hesitant to

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<v Speaker 2>say yes and no. Also, I'm like more established in

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<v Speaker 2>my career, I have like a more serious job, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I was like, I don't know if they would

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<v Speaker 2>even allow me the time off to do this. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was definitely a conversation, like multiple conversations had to

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<v Speaker 2>be had, many of them just in my own brain

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<v Speaker 2>of like do I want to put myself through this again?

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<v Speaker 2>But once I heard like it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a new place and they were going to shake

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<v Speaker 2>things up, and they promised me, they promise missed me

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<v Speaker 2>older more established men with jobs, job's, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>not the case. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like you're not the first person that's

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<v Speaker 4>come on here and said that they made some promises

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<v Speaker 4>that they didn't deliver on with the older men. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think they did deliver, but it is

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<v Speaker 4>not enough for all the women that they promised them to.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Exactly, Like there was like it was one guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Dale, that was the guy that was him,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, i'd seen Dale in like the Lifetime movies,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I just knew like Dale and I

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<v Speaker 2>weren't going to buy. But like they're like, there's older

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<v Speaker 2>men there. Okay, Well I didn't mean the Goldens. If

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being frank, like they did deliver on the older men,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not, like I wasn't thinking that old, although

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<v Speaker 2>like my range is like thirty five to coffin lately,

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, yeah, I just they did the old

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<v Speaker 2>bait and switch, but it got me.

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<v Speaker 1>There was there anyone that you were hoping to see

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<v Speaker 1>down there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, dearly deeply of course. Yes, LS there's two people

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<v Speaker 2>one and like both are like reaches for sure. But

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<v Speaker 2>on the last season of Paradise, I fumbled alex Boardie

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<v Speaker 2>so hard.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I remember him, like that's the guy, like that

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<v Speaker 4>is Wait, really.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I would have put you two together.

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<v Speaker 2>No one would. But it's perfect he knows. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we've like be spoken on the phone. We text, like

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<v Speaker 2>not regularly, but like we check in with each other

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<v Speaker 2>like me and probably more in my part. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>I I think it would work. Give me ten minutes

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<v Speaker 2>the through with alex BOARDI I can make something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, why why haven't you guys made it? Like an attempt?

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<v Speaker 2>He's not he has he's got walls up. He's Russian,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got walls up. He's very like you are here,

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<v Speaker 2>I am there, I and I like there was I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to, you know, I tried to slip in, and

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<v Speaker 2>then once I saw there was a little resistance, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, it's fine, It'll just stay a crush.

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<v Speaker 1>It was where does he live?

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<v Speaker 2>He lives in Detroit, Okay, and you are in Rhode Island.

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<v Speaker 4>But you were probably thinking, like, if you can get

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<v Speaker 4>us down here on a beach for three weeks, I

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<v Speaker 4>can make some shit happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was the other guy?

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<v Speaker 2>The other guy is? I don't think I've ever said

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<v Speaker 2>this ever in my life, but there's this guy who

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<v Speaker 2>was a night warner on Michelle season, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>we would actually work. Like this is someone I'm like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is like a stable guy. He's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's tall, he's gorgeous, former football player, it seems Brian witzman,

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<v Speaker 2>he's so tall.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the guy from Chicago? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Clay you know him? Yeah, I know him, And

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<v Speaker 1>he was just no, I like him. He's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just on vacation with Clay, who I saw

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<v Speaker 1>because they had a layover in New York for like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours, so I went out to dinner. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just on vacation. Song that's dinner with Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian wasn't there, Brian, it was it was Clay, another guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Brian was not there. But Brian was on

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<v Speaker 1>vacation with them. So he's a big guy. He's tall.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I need a big boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we've never met, but we like chatted in the dms.

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<v Speaker 2>We've chat in the dams.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I mean I could put the word in

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you'd like, I don't know, but like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, somebody, please anybody. I'm like, but he's like the

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<v Speaker 2>type of person established normal, like he seems the good values.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's that, that's my vibe, right, Like I need

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<v Speaker 2>this is how I describe my person It's like they

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<v Speaker 2>need to be like like the core of the earth

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<v Speaker 2>and like I'm just like the little that like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I need like a tether to reality.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I was gonna ask you you have such personality,

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<v Speaker 4>Like how are you looking for a guy that like

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<v Speaker 4>also has that personality?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you looking for someone more grounded?

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<v Speaker 2>And like, oh, I need someone grounded. I need someone

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<v Speaker 2>who I need a balance and I need to be

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<v Speaker 2>like the funny one I need to be. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe's sex and right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, come on, I could get this going. You want

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<v Speaker 1>me to get this going, I'm not as well, right

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<v Speaker 1>please see?

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<v Speaker 2>Like so yeah, no, and I would love someone personality

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<v Speaker 2>They have to think I'm funny though, like period, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I do need someone more grounded, because like

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<v Speaker 2>I look at my sister and my brother in law

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, that's what I need.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well that's not fun if you're like, I have

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<v Speaker 4>such personality and you're not giggling at my jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, totally. And some people just don't get it either,

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<v Speaker 2>because there obviously is more like beneath the surface, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is just you know, it's who I am.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, while Joe tries to set you up with a

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<v Speaker 4>future husband, let's get into how did you prep for Paradise?

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<v Speaker 4>How are you feeling going into it? Because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like they actually didn't get into this enough while you

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<v Speaker 4>were on the show that you had been down to

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<v Speaker 4>Paradise before and you kind of had like a whole

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<v Speaker 4>situ suation down there, and I feel like that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of we just moved past that on this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I okay, So I'm very well medicated now,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so. And also just like being in a

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<v Speaker 2>two year relationship, we'll do that to you. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely thought I was gonna settle down with this person,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I had never like left that space of

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm ready for the next step. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think touching grass and like getting you know, really

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<v Speaker 2>seeing what I want in a partner prepared me. Because

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<v Speaker 2>there's some people that like, even like I meet or

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, will they propose to me, Like, oh what

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<v Speaker 2>about this person? I'm like, if that was twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd ride this till the wheel fall off. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like thirty, and I'm looking for something a little more serious.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, obviously you learn a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>lessons when you're in paradise, like not everything is like

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<v Speaker 2>life or death. I was definitely thinking like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>like if I get eliminated, Jesse's gonna shoot me out

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<v Speaker 2>back and no one will ever see me ever again.

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<v Speaker 2>So like I just learned like it's really not that serious,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're supposed to here for fun, and it's supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be fun and you're supposed to get to know people,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I just wanted to get to know everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>because I should have given everyone a fair shake last time.

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<v Speaker 4>And last time you came in kind of in like

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<v Speaker 4>a preset love triangle with Romeo, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that was weird. Congratulations just had a baby

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<v Speaker 2>love that perum.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I forgot that.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I did hear that. That's why baba,

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<v Speaker 4>congrats to Romeo on fatherhood. Going in this time. Who

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<v Speaker 4>did you know, Like, was there anyone where you were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we've met, have my eyes on them?

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<v Speaker 3>Or were you like, no, I'm not doing that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, I was like I'm not doing that again.

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<v Speaker 2>No one also like really piqued my interest. This is

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<v Speaker 2>no offense to anybody, Like, no one was really like

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<v Speaker 2>piquing my interest. And I so like the people i'd

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<v Speaker 2>met with obviously, like Justin Andrew, Like I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew was going to be there. Justin I had a

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<v Speaker 2>better idea that was going to be there. So like

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<v Speaker 2>he was a friendly face. I knew of Spencer. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>never met him or spoken to him. Jonathan, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is one thing I want to clear. Jonathan said that

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<v Speaker 2>we had met before I've never met Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so you got you never met because it

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<v Speaker 1>was did he say you guys were like had a friendship.

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<v Speaker 3>Said that we had met.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he said that we had met. I wrote it

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<v Speaker 2>down in my notes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I remember him saying.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he said we had met Jill. He said I

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<v Speaker 2>met Jill once before. That's not true. I spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>him on the phone through Rachel. But like, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>met that man.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So we're is a loose term.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would I would like if if we had

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<v Speaker 1>spoken on the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>FaceTime or audio audio audio, if we had spoken on

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<v Speaker 4>the phone, I could potentially say.

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<v Speaker 2>That or like I know her, you can say I

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<v Speaker 2>know her, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would say we spoke on the I would probably just

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<v Speaker 1>like I spoke I never met her on a phone call.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like we've spoken before. Yeah, that's why I've

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<v Speaker 2>never met that man in my life. Okay, okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really didn't know who was going to be there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I you know, I know I know of everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>you know everyone in the niche, but you don't, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You were you happy about the new setting and the

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<v Speaker 1>living conditions when you got there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so happy seeing the beds and feeling the

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<v Speaker 2>ac was just like the food was great, Like the

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<v Speaker 2>whole setup was just at first. Honestly, when I walked in,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, do I talk to you? What do

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<v Speaker 2>I do? No, it's telling me about to do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it was a little it was an adjustment

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<v Speaker 2>for me coming from like the Old Guard and also

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<v Speaker 2>just like the noise from the waves, like it adds.

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<v Speaker 2>But I walked in, I literally was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really quiet because it was weird, like the setting

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<v Speaker 2>took a little bit to adjust to, like this like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of villa esque, but oh my god, it was

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<v Speaker 2>so nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we were saying it was really giving, like bachelor

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<v Speaker 4>in resort, like you're taking away like that very heavy,

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<v Speaker 4>beachy feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which was like I was definitely was not a sandy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would have preferred like some like some white noise,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because it could get a little quiet, a

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<v Speaker 2>little quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I did like falling asleep to the ways and the

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<v Speaker 4>sounds of nature in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Okay, So you you get a date card, correct, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you take Jonathan. Yeah okay, so the what like

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<v Speaker 1>the perception of why you took him and why he

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<v Speaker 1>said he would go was because you guys had it?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it like friendly, like we're friends, let's yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just was that. Were you on the same page with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we were totally on the same page because when

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<v Speaker 2>I got the date card, I look like angry because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like looking at as Susie's and she had the

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<v Speaker 2>jet Ski and I had this like little thing like

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<v Speaker 2>the BP suite and I was like, oh, what the

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<v Speaker 2>because I was going to take Justin. I said Justin.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Justin, if I get this diate card,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to go and be like we'll just have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was literally just looking. I was looking around

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I'm there's nobody here for me

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<v Speaker 2>to take, so Justin, like please your my friend? And

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<v Speaker 2>he said well, he said, well we'll see was on

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<v Speaker 2>that date card because you know you probably wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go jet skiings. I was like, damn it, like I

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<v Speaker 2>can't take Justin now. So I was looking for another

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<v Speaker 2>friendly face and Jonathan and I had spoken before, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I went up to him and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, like I know you're with Alex. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to step on me toes like, will you

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<v Speaker 2>be my friend? Will you be my friend? And he

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<v Speaker 2>but then he was acting like, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like Dog's Last Cheeseburger vibe, Like he was like, if

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<v Speaker 2>this is Joel's lasted paradise, I'm gonna make it the

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<v Speaker 2>best day ever. And I'm like, okay, damn, Like that

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<v Speaker 2>was crazy, but but I was happy to go with

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<v Speaker 2>him as friends. I knew it was friendly. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>it was just friends.

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<v Speaker 3>So sorry, I'm gonna like cry.

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<v Speaker 1>Laughing at that person.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm laughing right now.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, literally, that is what he was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>He was doing dogs Last Day on Earth, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a like appointments book, I've got to be euthanized.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm sorry. That was so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was trying to hold it in because I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to be rude, but like that's literally what

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<v Speaker 4>was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So all right, And then does were there any

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<v Speaker 1>romantic sparks at all on that date or after that date?

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean, like, get into that relationship a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>because then, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go on this date, you're twisting it up.

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<v Speaker 4>There's like a kiss share because you know, you're on

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<v Speaker 4>top of each other and on a date on the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 4>but like I was just trying to you know, give

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<v Speaker 4>He's just trying to give me the last day of

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<v Speaker 4>your life, trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To get me my last cheeseburger. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>so on a date the whole time, even like the producers,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was like, what's going on here? Like it's this friends,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just just friends and I So everyone was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? And I said, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>But when he kissed you, was that when like the

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<v Speaker 4>confusing point came in. I mean yeah, like because like

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<v Speaker 4>the overall vibes of the date, it felt like it

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<v Speaker 4>was going in a more romantic direction than you would

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<v Speaker 4>expected it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there was obviously like good banter, like that was

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<v Speaker 2>our first time like really spending time with each other,

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<v Speaker 2>like one on one, and so I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is cool, like maybe there's a possibility, but

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<v Speaker 2>like we're just friends. So I don't know. No one

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<v Speaker 2>wants to broach that topic, right. There's a song that

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<v Speaker 2>I really loved and says Friendship's ruined with just one kiss,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I remember laying there and you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>prompt was like kiss the body part and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>thinking in my head, he's going to kiss my knee

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<v Speaker 2>because it's the closest thing to him. And he says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess well because you're on the lips.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, oh okay, wait is that how it went down?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait? Why did I not? That didn't register in my brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a kiss a body part.

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<v Speaker 4>When he was on the podcast, the way he was

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<v Speaker 4>explaining it to me, I guess I interpreted it as like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we're we were supposed to kiss, and we were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we're friends, we can kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, it said kiss a body part. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was going to kiss my knee because

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<v Speaker 2>literally it was the closest thing to him. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember thinking that. And then he kissed my lips and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like oh. He was like okay, so and

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<v Speaker 2>he said and then he said on your podcast, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>you know we kiss friends on the lips. Brother what Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, friends kiss, like we can kill our

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<v Speaker 3>friends on the lip.

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<v Speaker 2>Ari Like, I I don't like maybe my friends I've

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<v Speaker 2>been best friends with since I was like five years old,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, I just met you, homie, we're on a

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<v Speaker 2>dating show. What do you think we're doing yeah. So

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<v Speaker 2>and then in his interviews it was even more confusing

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<v Speaker 2>to me because like you obviously see how this progresses,

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<v Speaker 2>and like in his interviews, he's like, we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>riding the line between flirty and friendly and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, okay, so I wasn't crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>So I wasn't crazy, No, And it did translate that

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<v Speaker 4>you guys were writing the line between flirty and friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And then like what you didn't see was like

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<v Speaker 2>there was we had like a thirty like thirty to

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<v Speaker 2>forty minute conversation. We're just sitting there like getting kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like deep, like we're kind of getting into it

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<v Speaker 2>with like the serious conversations. And I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like really good. Like I'm we're friends, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're I still didn't know where we stood after the date,

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<v Speaker 2>but like obviously there's roses on the table, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try, right, Like I'm gonna at least try.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just let him know, Hey, if you're interested,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're with Alex, like no pressure, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you're into it, I'm into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you regret at all maybe going in there,

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<v Speaker 1>like basically saying like, hey, this is just a friendly date,

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<v Speaker 1>like do you want to do this? Would you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of wish you would have just went in there,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm just gonna take a shot and if something's

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<v Speaker 1>outs there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, because I mean he also set those parameters

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<v Speaker 2>as well, like he said, you know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be more friendly. He said it was giving

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<v Speaker 2>like he felt bad for me and he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>give me like this nice date. So I just rolled

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<v Speaker 2>with that. I wasn't gonna put any more pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>it because I again, I didn't want to step on

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<v Speaker 2>any toes, even though you supposed to do that, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't really want to and I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to like insert myself, and so I knew it was

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be friends and that was fine with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever were you were you at all like considering just

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<v Speaker 1>leaving just like I got down there, I'm not interested

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<v Speaker 1>in anyone. I have this day card. There's no one

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<v Speaker 1>I want to bring. I'm leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No. When the first night that I got there,

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<v Speaker 2>I walked about to my room crying, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna self eliminate before like during the rose ceremony. But

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<v Speaker 2>then that was my plan. I was just gonna go home.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna self eliminate. I was like gonna interrupt

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, hey, guys, like I'm just gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>But then Jonathan said that that thing to me before

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<v Speaker 2>the Rose ceremony, which gave me like a little bit

0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.439
<v Speaker 2>of hope. Yeah. I was like, you know, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>like roll the dice and see what happens. But apparently

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what he meant.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess well, and I think it is.

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<v Speaker 4>A For part one of what you said, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like everyone coupled up crazy fast this season, like usually

0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.760
<v Speaker 4>when you come down when you and Susie did, Like

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<v Speaker 4>there's still a decent amount of guys that either like

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.359
<v Speaker 4>their connection went home or their connection has jumped to

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<v Speaker 4>someone else and.

0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:44.760
<v Speaker 3>They've like opened up for availability.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we're seeing so many couples right out of the gate,

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<v Speaker 4>which makes it way harder for people coming in obviously.

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<v Speaker 4>And then to the second part of what you're saying

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<v Speaker 4>with Jonathan, I think it's im important information that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize. I feel like watching it, you guys

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<v Speaker 4>kept saying like we're friends, We're friends. I'm like, oh,

0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.040
<v Speaker 4>these guys are like friends, but you are just like

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<v Speaker 4>you've met and you've locked into the friend zone. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not like you have this like relationship where it's like

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<v Speaker 4>it would be weird for us to date now because

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<v Speaker 4>we've met a couple times, like I've met on the

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<v Speaker 4>phone one time you came in and yes, you're going

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<v Speaker 4>on to say as friends, but I can now understand

0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:24.480
<v Speaker 4>how you were maybe thinking maybe a connection could be developed.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, like I was going off of the information

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.600
<v Speaker 2>that I was given, Like the information that I was

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<v Speaker 2>given was how he was acting towards me. I guess

0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.720
<v Speaker 2>he's a really flirty person, and that's just like not

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.080
<v Speaker 2>necessarily who I am. And as this like kind of

0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 2>develops like this, like you know, whatever our argument was develops,

0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.639
<v Speaker 2>you kind of see that Jonathan considers friends something that

0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:50.919
<v Speaker 2>I necessarily don't consider friends, and so like you can

0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.679
<v Speaker 2>kiss your friends, Okay, that's not really how I see it,

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 2>like you know, And then he said, you're making my

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.119
<v Speaker 2>decision harder and that whole thing, and so I was

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.960
<v Speaker 2>going off the informal that I was given was that, oh,

0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.960
<v Speaker 2>there was something about our conversation and about our connection

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.359
<v Speaker 2>that was making his decision harder. How else was I

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:10.399
<v Speaker 2>supposed to interpret that?

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I think that's I think that's how.

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 2>You should And I do see his perspective, like I

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 2>see his perspective where like, oh, I had this connection

0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.399
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't have with Alex, but it wasn't specifically

0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.240
<v Speaker 2>about Jill. But I didn't specifically say that, like I

0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.119
<v Speaker 2>can understand where a miscommunication could happen. But just like

0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 2>after that conversation on the day bed, that was it

0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 2>for me. I was just like, Okay, clear it up, understood, Well,

0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I have a connection.

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have a connection with Alex either, like he

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:40.639
<v Speaker 1>did not have a connection with Alex.

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 2>No, not not really, No.

0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Had they like ended at that point.

0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to remember, yes, yeah, they had ended, and

0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 2>so that's why I was confused. I was like, I

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.399
<v Speaker 2>have the rose and no one's pursuing me. I was like,

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:54.879
<v Speaker 2>that's really strange, Like Jonathan's not putting in any effort

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.200
<v Speaker 2>even as friends. Do you think I wanted to give

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.640
<v Speaker 2>my rose to Sean? No, like I would have much

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.480
<v Speaker 2>read I'm no stranger to a friend rose, like if

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan is truly there for me, Because I did feel

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.919
<v Speaker 2>like a connection to Jonathan like if it's just on

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 2>an emotional level, that's fine. But I felt more of

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.439
<v Speaker 2>a connection towards Jonathan than I did towards Sean, and

0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 2>he could have gotten that rose, but he was putting

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.840
<v Speaker 2>in no effort. And I remember Dale saying clothes, mouse

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 2>don't get fed, and I said, bery it, bear it,

0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:25.440
<v Speaker 2>gock it, like go down right, So it's like right, closed,

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 2>mouse don't get fed. Sean's at least putting an effort,

0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:29.719
<v Speaker 2>even if it's like just to get the rose. I mean,

0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 2>he's putting an effort. I gotta reward that. I'm not

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna reward something that's like not serving me, right.

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:37.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, you're probably looking at Sean like all right,

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:39.639
<v Speaker 4>you're at least trying. You're showing that you want to

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 4>be here, even if it's not with me, and like, yeah,

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 4>you deserve the opportunity to then stay and like keep

0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.199
<v Speaker 4>putting that effort. Hopefully someone will come down that you're like,

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, ready to go for.

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, like you're playing ball. Like Jonathan, it didn't seem

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 2>like he he wanted to stay almost And some of

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the things he said to me were like a little disparaging,

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Like he was saying that like he insinuated that I

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.360
<v Speaker 2>was a charity case, Like, well, I did something really

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>nice for you, so you should be nice to me, brother,

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.680
<v Speaker 2>what Like it was so confusing. I'm just like wow,

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Like that was not really nice of you to say, Like,

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a charity case. I'm not pining after you specifically,

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just expecting like clear communication. It was bizarre.

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 4>Let's dive into the conversation between you guys at the bar. Yeah,

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 4>it was giving like like he'd had a few drinks.

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 4>You guys had had a few drinks and like you

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 4>just could not get the communication. No, I I know,

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean you have it on the show. I'm just

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 4>saying like the communication was so disconnected, like I felt.

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 3>That No, I knew you guys weren't drug.

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 4>I was just providing like a visual like it was

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 4>a bar, like what's happening here?

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Like it is not clicking between these two people.

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not clicking, because so I was. When I

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.159
<v Speaker 2>walked by, I said I was going to bed. I

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 2>was saying my good nights, and he told me, he says,

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry, And I said why because truly I

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 2>had been over it. Why are you apologizing to me.

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to apologize for, right, Like, I'm over it,

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 2>I debit it. Let's just say I edit it. And

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 2>so he's bringing it back up. And at one point

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>in the conversation, I said, Jonathan, is this apology more

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 2>for yours it for me? Because I don't need an apology.

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you're trying to right the wrong of

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 2>like you coming off as you know. However you're coming off,

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.439
<v Speaker 2>you're not feeling secured in the way that ended, and

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 2>I have to now provide that for you. It's not

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.880
<v Speaker 2>an apology for me. It's an apology so you can

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 2>feel better. That's what I gleaned from the conversation. And

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>he was getting emotional, and I was like, well, what's

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.919
<v Speaker 2>going on here? Like why are you feeling emotional about this?

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to like. I don't feel negatively towards you.

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Am I a little confused and annoyed, sure, but I

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 2>don't feel And I think what happened was like he

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 2>had said that, you know, like the way that we

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>see friends clearly didn't. He was like, well, you're you're

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 2>acting a different way towards me. Well, yes, because I

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 2>treat my romantic partners, my potential romantic partners differently than

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.959
<v Speaker 2>I treat my friends, And so I don't think he

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 2>was like comfortable with that.

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Do you think he had a sense of guilt and

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 4>was like worried, Like, oh no, Joel thinks I'm like

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 4>a bad guy, and I don't want her to think

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 4>that about me, and I want us to be on

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 4>good terms. And like thought from that conversation that you

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 4>were going to be like it's all good. I think

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 4>you're amazing, were great, and like because you weren't really

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 4>giving that to him, he just kind of like kept going.

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he like kept going. And like the thing with

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 2>me is like once I find out something about a person,

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I do It's not like I hold a grudge, but

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like that's in my head. I don't have

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>to like love everybody dearly. And I just honestly needed

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 2>space from that because the information that I was given

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>was not clear information. And so I'm not gonna keep

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.360
<v Speaker 2>putting my energy and time into a relationship that is

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 2>not like serving me, especially after you say some like

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>weird things to me, acting like I'm charity, acting like

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I should be grateful that I took you on this date.

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I should be so grateful that you

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>went on the date with me. Like he was almost

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 2>making me feel like I was I should be like

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 2>thanking him and I should be which is like, dude,

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 2>how oh yeah, how awful it was has spend time

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 2>with me? How terrible. I'm so sorry you had to

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 2>do that and play twister. I mean, I kind of am,

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.680
<v Speaker 2>but like it was just he was making me the

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 2>whole time. I felt crazy. The whole time, I felt crazy,

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.640
<v Speaker 2>and the messages were not getting through.

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think do you think he was also

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>worried about how he was going to be perceived from

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the audience.

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that that is the main that is

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.479
<v Speaker 2>the main reason that I believe I don't think he

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>actually cares about me, because he hasn't reached out to

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 2>me since, and so like, fine, fine, fine, fine, but

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>like I know that you to be you're you're the

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>good guy. I said, certified good guy. I rescind that certification.

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Not because I don't think that he has like the

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 2>potential to be like a good guy, but I think

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 2>he's so worried about how he's perceived rather than the

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 2>actual feelings. Because I didn't need that apology, like he

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 2>needed to sit with that, like sit with the discomfort

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 2>and like the way he's being, you know, the way

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:25.199
<v Speaker 2>he's moving rather than the way I'm feeling I can

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 2>feel ever I want.

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we see that more, like as years

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>go on, more people that come on reality TV in general,

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>but like especially The Bachelor, it seems like people like

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>if they get labeled the good guy or the good woman,

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>like they really want to hold on to that or

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>harness that, and they get so worried that that's gonna

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>fall apart.

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it even be more of a microskill if

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't want his friends and.

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 3>The people there that he's been in Coney with or

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Jill to think he's a bad guy.

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 2>For sure, totally totally. I fully understand that I've never

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 2>personally had that because I've never been the good guy

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 2>or the good girl, so I'm not like but I

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>can totally understand that. And I would have thought, I

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 2>would still have like thought that he was a good

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 2>guy if he had just come to me and been

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.479
<v Speaker 2>honest and not tried to flip my words and not

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>try to manipulate me into thinking that I should be

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>grateful or that I made me feel like I'm a

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 2>charity case or you know, X Y and Z, I

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 2>would have still thought that. Never he said that I

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 2>was questioning his intentions when I asked, why are you apologizing?

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>And I said, no, I wasn't questioning your intentions. I

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>was just simply asking why do you feel the need

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>to apologize, because I don't feel like there's a need

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>to apologize. But like every little thing that I said

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm gonna flip it. I'm gonna flip it.

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna flip it. And that's weird to me. That's strange.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what you're doing because you're supposed

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 2>to be wanting a rose from me, I guess, but

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>like you're not acting like it.

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 3>It was so weird.

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>It was so strange.

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a deep lack of compatibility between the two

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 4>of you as fur romantic partners.

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely, And I'm fine with, like you know, I'm

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>fine with like letting it go and letting that like

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>be in the past, and like I wish you all

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>the best. God blast, but don't try to make me

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like a charity case. Don't put that on me.

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 2>That's weird. It's not fair.

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>We see this week you self eliminate. Congrats, way to go.

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I know I love you. Do you regret it? Do

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you regret it at all? Like what was going through

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>your head? Or were you just fed up of just

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>my person is definitely not here.

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know one thing about me. I'm not going

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>to overstay my welcome like I'm gonna go. I had

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 2>the writing was on the wall, and like I knew

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>when I know it's my time to go when I

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.959
<v Speaker 2>lose my sparkle because I am not an insecure person

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>outside of this environment. I'm not going to seek fallady

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 2>from men who see me only as a friend when

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I know I deserve more. I know that my guy's

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>not coming. Alex Boord, he's at home in Detroit. You know,

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>you know Brian Witzman or whatever his last name is

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>is in Chicago. He's not a good so thank you, Joseph.

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 2>But like you know, so, I I just knew that

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 2>my time was up because everyone was just like I'm like,

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>why are guys acting weird towards me? Like there were times,

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 2>which is really sad, there were times when I saw

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>all the couples together and I was like supposed to

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 2>meet a couple with Sean, and I felt so weird

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't want to interrupt theirs that I would

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 2>literally go to the bathroom or like go to my

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 2>room and sit in my room like that sucks and

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not that way in real life. I'm not like,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could catch a guy any day of

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 2>the week if I really wanted. Is he going to

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 2>be quality? Probably not? But like, I'm not that person

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 2>outside of this, and so I'm not going to stay

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 2>somewhere where I know that the reason why I came

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 2>here wasn't to like, hey, be on TV play survivor,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I I'm going to gonna go am

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I here?

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 4>It is like I am still I guess, just shocked

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 4>by the fact that it's so couplely so early, Like was.

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 3>It like that?

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you keep saying that, because.

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 4>I just feel like, and I mean, I only have

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 4>our experience to go off of, and look, we obviously

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 4>coupled up early, so it sounds like ironic for me

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<v Speaker 4>to say this, But we were all still hanging out

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<v Speaker 4>very like cohesively as a group or in little groups.

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like two too too too, everyone was coupled

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<v Speaker 4>up all of only.

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<v Speaker 1>The only strong couple on this beach right now currently

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<v Speaker 1>is Spencer and Jazz, Spencer and Jezz.

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<v Speaker 3>There's barely and Jeremy Bailey and Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would say, I guess it's not the it's

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<v Speaker 4>not how many strong couples they are, it's how isolated

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<v Speaker 4>the hangouts for the couples are. Maybe that's the new

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 4>like location and it just makes it easier to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, like everyone would be around the

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<v Speaker 2>bar like with their person and so like I was,

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, hanging out with the Goldens and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like third wheeling Cat and Dale like nobody's business and like,

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<v Speaker 2>but again I just don't want to like insert myself

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<v Speaker 2>when like you're trying to connect and I know my

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<v Speaker 2>person's not going to be here. I say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm an acquired taste, like acquire some taste PayPal,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know I'm an acquired taste. And that's like

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful that I love that about myself and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna change. But like I can know we know the

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<v Speaker 2>people in vaccal nation, who the fuck is coming down?

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<v Speaker 2>No one? And so I'm just not gonna and especially

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<v Speaker 2>when like Alicia came in, I'm like, oh my god,

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>she's gorgeous. I'm I'm toast, you know, like there's no

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<v Speaker 2>reason for me to be here here though.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you care that Shawn was gonna potentially go talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Alicia? Did that bother you at all?

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>No? Okay, No, what bothered me was that April was

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<v Speaker 2>stealing all of my men. Like what bothered me was like,

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, everyone's doing their cute little thing with their

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.479
<v Speaker 2>person for the Birds of Paradise and Shan shows April.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what I mean, but entertaining. No, that

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<v Speaker 2>that was like the nail in the coffin for me,

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Like the coffin could not flow even if you tried,

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>but they're like there were many nails in the coffin.

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 2>But that was like, Okay, there's someone here for him.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:05.719
<v Speaker 2>He's in a good spot. I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I guess. I mean, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to blame it, like you said, kind of like on

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the setting, because I just feel like that it's it

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>just seems maybe it's just the people, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>see so just men. Well, no, because even on our

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>season of paradise. There was more just like group hangouts.

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 4>It was usually boys were hanging combos, you know, Yeah.

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>It was, it really was. It very seldomly was just

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>like a couple paired off in this couple corner, a

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>couple paired off in that corner. Like that really wasn't

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a thing to.

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Like be the end.

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 4>And then yeah, yeah, but that makes it a it's

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<v Speaker 4>already hard. I feel like to be in your situation

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 4>where you're like I'm single down here and everyone's coupled up,

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 4>and then b to feel like you're probably just kind

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 4>of feeling awkward on a low level at all times

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 4>in terms of moving around the space.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's like also like no offense, Like all

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 2>of those guys are great, but they're not my guy.

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not like me, me can make something work

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>with Brian, I'm not doing that. Maybe makes some big

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>work Dale, I'm not doing that. Like I there there

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 2>was truly no one that I could see anything with,

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 2>and I was wasting my time and I was wasting

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>their time. And I was like from trying to get

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 2>their validation, which is so ill. Why am I doing that?

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I was feeling worse.

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think I think they just need they

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>just need more more contestants down there. I think it

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>gets to a point where because you're not the only one,

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's there's been a few this season that's

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>just like, well fuck, there's nobody either, there's no one.

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no slim Pickens.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah there was slim Pickens because because and I understand

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 2>that they had to make room for the Goldens, right,

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 2>and so because normally there's like twelve guys, but this

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>time there were six, and so I was like, ooh, bloodbath.

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Every week four people are going home. Yikes. And also

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like I had twenty four hours to make a connection.

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's not a lie. That is exactly how much

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 2>time I had, so coming down Like normally, like the

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Old Guard, you would have three or four days to

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>make something happen. No, no, I had twenty four hours.

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 2>So that really sucked.

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you really need to get like there really needs

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of luck involved.

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 2>In a lot of luck, right, Like making a connection

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 2>down there is like catching lightning in a bottle, like

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and especially for someone like me who's not like a

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:27.839
<v Speaker 2>like heavy hitteror like whoa like Susie. You know, it's

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>like Susie and then Jill like, I hope you're hungry

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>for nothing, Like that's what I felt like when I

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 2>walked in. I was like, oh my god, sorry, guys,

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Like it was strange, it was weird.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how did you feel after you left finding out

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 4>that the format was going to do a bit of

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 4>a pivot and half a million dollars was involved, because

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 4>we see that at the teaser for the rest of

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 4>the season at the end of the episode, after you've

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 4>sent yourself home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I don't care. Like I'm the least competitive

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>person ever. I'm like, do I want half a million dollars?

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>But do do I want to go through the means

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to get that? And like make a fake couple with whoever?

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Who was I even going to couple up with? Like

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>if there was someone there that I could genuinely see

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>something with, yeah, sure, darn that sucks, But like there

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:12.240
<v Speaker 2>was no way to get to the half a million dollars.

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 2>There was no path to get there, so I.

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 4>Didn't really care, right, that makes sense, Like if I'm Susie,

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 4>M'd be like, maybe I should answer Jeremy's call a

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 4>little differently, But like in your situation, you're like, I

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 4>would have literally been stuck with coupled up with someone

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 4>that I had genuinely no hrmantic interest in.

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why am I going to do that? Yeah? That

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 2>would be hell on earth for me.

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really fair.

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Jill. That's it. We're running out of time. Thank you

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:40.280
<v Speaker 1>so much for coming on. Always always a pleasure talking

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to you. I don't think you'll go back on this show.

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I will either, but anybody else hit

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>me up, you know.

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Jill, thank you so much for taking the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We really appreciate it.

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys, Thank you, Hey, Joe, follow up on

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<v Speaker 2>that for me.

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I will yeah. Well, And to all our listeners, thank

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