1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bescher Happy Hour. I'm Joe 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: and we are here today with Jill. Jill, welcome back 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: to Bechler Happy Hour. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: Thank you. It is fabulous to be here. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while. When was the last time 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: we had you on? What was it for? Do you remember? 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: I have no idea? 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: Did co hosts? 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Uh? Well? Yeah, then you were gallivanting for a little 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: bit and I took over. So yeah, I've been really 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: picking up a lot of your slack. 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. 13 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: Well what are you doing? You left Jill hanging all alone? 14 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: I think I had some other people. I think I 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: was on the goat at the time. 16 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah he was, he was, Yes, I see, I see. 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Moving on from that, Jill, we saw you in I 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: think Newport a while back, right, was it that we 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: saw you? And you I remember you had a boyfriend 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: that had a mustache. 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Yes, very good, that's right. 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Okay, what happened to that boyfriend? 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Well you could probably hell, he dumped me at the 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: beginning of the year. 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: At the beginning of this year, yes, yeah, okay, right, okay, 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: so tough start to the year, but you know, we 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 4: turned it around. 28 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 3: Kind of paradise. 29 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, if you want it. That's a good way 30 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: to put it. Yeah, I mean, but honestly, like after 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: that relationship, it took me probably about like thirty seconds 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: to get over it. So sorry, but like I was, 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: so it was it was time. It was like actually 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: a really good positive thing. 35 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. 36 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: Okay. So then so then leading up, so break up 37 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, vechlor of Paradise. People don't leave 38 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: I think like till end of May. 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: Ish, No, it was earlier this year. 40 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: It was earlier than April. 41 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Okay, were you dating in that period? 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: No? God, no, no, no, I wouldn't dare No, I'm 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: not interested in like we'll get into the whole thing. 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: But no, well let's get into it. 45 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: I'm not interested in dating off of reality television. 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: Oh I don't date muggles. No, I'm kidding. No, it's 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 2: just so sick and twisted out there, Like I wasn't 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: going to do the dating apps. I haven't been on 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: the dating apps since I was in college, and. 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: So and also like oh. 51 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I call non bad like non 52 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: Magic Bachelor Nation people's muggles. But no, I actually should 53 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: only exclusively date muggles. But yeah, it just the dating 54 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: world is really bad, and especially in Newport, it's like 55 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: I know everybody, it seems, and so I didn't want 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: to get on the apps. I was just like in 57 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: my I was like hot girls summer, hot girl summer loading. 58 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: And actually Bachelor Paradise called me two weeks after I 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: got dumped, so I was like, eyes on the prize, baby, 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: eyes on the prize. 61 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy. Wow, they were fast. How did you 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: meet your ex? 63 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: Then? Oh I met him through my mom. My mom 64 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: set us up. 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: Okay, crazy, that's amazing. 66 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: I knew that. 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I do remember you saying this. 68 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: So you get dumped, your like, this sucks, but for 69 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: the best. And then you answer the phone and they're like, hey, 70 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: Jill Rumor has it you're single? 71 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: Do you want to come back? What was your initial reaction? 72 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: I said, I'll take the coal. You know, I'll take 73 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: the coal. But I you know, obviously you guys have 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: been to Paradise like in that, you know, in play 75 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: Esque and data, and so my last experience, I wouldn't say, 76 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: was like gleaming. So I was a little hesitant to 77 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: say yes and no. Also, I'm like more established in 78 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: my career, I have like a more serious job, and 79 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: so I was like, I don't know if they would 80 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: even allow me the time off to do this. So 81 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: it was definitely a conversation, like multiple conversations had to 82 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: be had, many of them just in my own brain 83 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: of like do I want to put myself through this again? 84 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: But once I heard like it was going to be 85 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: in a new place and they were going to shake 86 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: things up, and they promised me, they promise missed me 87 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: older more established men with jobs, job's, and that was 88 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: not the case. Yeah. 89 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like you're not the first person that's 90 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: come on here and said that they made some promises 91 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: that they didn't deliver on with the older men. Well, 92 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 4: I think I think they did deliver, but it is 93 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: not enough for all the women that they promised them to. 94 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: Right Exactly, Like there was like it was one guy. 95 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: It was Dale, that was the guy that was him, 96 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: And you know, i'd seen Dale in like the Lifetime movies, 97 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: and you know, I just knew like Dale and I 98 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: weren't going to buy. But like they're like, there's older 99 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: men there. Okay, Well I didn't mean the Goldens. If 100 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm being frank, like they did deliver on the older men, 101 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: but I'm not, like I wasn't thinking that old, although 102 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: like my range is like thirty five to coffin lately, 103 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, I just they did the old 104 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: bait and switch, but it got me. 105 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: There was there anyone that you were hoping to see 106 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: down there? 107 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: Yes, dearly deeply of course. Yes, LS there's two people 108 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: one and like both are like reaches for sure. But 109 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: on the last season of Paradise, I fumbled alex Boardie 110 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: so hard. 111 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I remember him, like that's the guy, like that 112 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: is Wait, really. 113 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if I would have put you two together. 114 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: No one would. But it's perfect he knows. Oh yeah, 115 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: we've like be spoken on the phone. We text, like 116 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: not regularly, but like we check in with each other 117 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: like me and probably more in my part. But no, 118 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: I I think it would work. Give me ten minutes 119 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: the through with alex BOARDI I can make something. 120 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: Well, why why haven't you guys made it? Like an attempt? 121 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: He's not he has he's got walls up. He's Russian, 122 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: he's got walls up. He's very like you are here, 123 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: I am there, I and I like there was I 124 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: tried to, you know, I tried to slip in, and 125 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: then once I saw there was a little resistance, I'm like, 126 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: you know what, it's fine, It'll just stay a crush. 127 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: It was where does he live? 128 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: He lives in Detroit, Okay, and you are in Rhode Island. 129 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: But you were probably thinking, like, if you can get 130 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 4: us down here on a beach for three weeks, I 131 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: can make some shit happen. 132 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. 133 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: Who was the other guy? 134 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: The other guy is? I don't think I've ever said 135 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: this ever in my life, but there's this guy who 136 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: was a night warner on Michelle season, and I think 137 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 2: we would actually work. Like this is someone I'm like, okay, yeah, 138 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: like this is like a stable guy. He's I mean, 139 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: he's tall, he's gorgeous, former football player, it seems Brian witzman, 140 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: he's so tall. 141 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: Is this the guy from Chicago? Yeah? 142 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Clay you know him? Yeah, I know him, And 143 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: he was just no, I like him. He's really nice. 144 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: He was just on vacation with Clay, who I saw 145 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: because they had a layover in New York for like 146 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, so I went out to dinner. But yeah, 147 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: they were just on vacation. Song that's dinner with Yeah, 148 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: Brian wasn't there, Brian, it was it was Clay, another guy, 149 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: and then Brian was not there. But Brian was on 150 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: vacation with them. So he's a big guy. He's tall. 151 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need a big boy. 152 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 153 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: No, we've never met, but we like chatted in the dms. 154 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: We've chat in the dams. 155 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean I could put the word in 156 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: if you if you'd like, I don't know, but like. 157 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody, please anybody. I'm like, but he's like the 158 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: type of person established normal, like he seems the good values. 159 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: Like that's that, that's my vibe, right, Like I need 160 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: this is how I describe my person It's like they 161 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: need to be like like the core of the earth 162 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: and like I'm just like the little that like you know, 163 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: I need like a tether to reality. 164 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I was gonna ask you you have such personality, 165 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: Like how are you looking for a guy that like 166 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: also has that personality? 167 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: Are you looking for someone more grounded? 168 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: And like, oh, I need someone grounded. I need someone 169 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: who I need a balance and I need to be 170 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: like the funny one I need to be. You know, 171 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: Joe's sex and right. 172 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: Now, come on, I could get this going. You want 173 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: me to get this going, I'm not as well, right 174 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: please see? 175 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: Like so yeah, no, and I would love someone personality 176 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: They have to think I'm funny though, like period, Like 177 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: you know, I do need someone more grounded, because like 178 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: I look at my sister and my brother in law 179 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's what I need. 180 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha? 181 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's not fun if you're like, I have 182 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 4: such personality and you're not giggling at my jokes. 183 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: Right, No, totally. And some people just don't get it either, 184 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: because there obviously is more like beneath the surface, but 185 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: this is just you know, it's who I am. 186 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: All right, I love that. 187 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: Well, while Joe tries to set you up with a 188 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 4: future husband, let's get into how did you prep for Paradise? 189 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: How are you feeling going into it? Because I feel 190 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: like they actually didn't get into this enough while you 191 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: were on the show that you had been down to 192 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: Paradise before and you kind of had like a whole 193 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 4: situ suation down there, and I feel like that kind 194 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 4: of we just moved past that on this season. 195 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I okay, So I'm very well medicated now, 196 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: thank you so. And also just like being in a 197 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: two year relationship, we'll do that to you. Like I 198 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: genuinely thought I was gonna settle down with this person, 199 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: and so I had never like left that space of 200 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: like I'm ready for the next step. And so you know, 201 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: I think touching grass and like getting you know, really 202 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 2: seeing what I want in a partner prepared me. Because 203 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: there's some people that like, even like I meet or 204 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: my friends, will they propose to me, Like, oh what 205 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: about this person? I'm like, if that was twenty two, 206 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: I'd ride this till the wheel fall off. But I'm 207 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: like thirty, and I'm looking for something a little more serious. 208 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: And so you know, obviously you learn a lot of 209 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: lessons when you're in paradise, like not everything is like 210 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: life or death. I was definitely thinking like, oh my god, 211 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: like if I get eliminated, Jesse's gonna shoot me out 212 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: back and no one will ever see me ever again. 213 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: So like I just learned like it's really not that serious, 214 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: and we're supposed to here for fun, and it's supposed 215 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: to be fun and you're supposed to get to know people, 216 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: and so I just wanted to get to know everybody, 217 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: because I should have given everyone a fair shake last time. 218 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: And last time you came in kind of in like 219 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 4: a preset love triangle with Romeo, right. 220 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that was weird. Congratulations just had a baby 221 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: love that perum. 222 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot that. 223 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 4: I feel like I did hear that. That's why baba, 224 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: congrats to Romeo on fatherhood. Going in this time. Who 225 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: did you know, Like, was there anyone where you were like, oh, 226 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: we've met, have my eyes on them? 227 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: Or were you like, no, I'm not doing that again. 228 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I was like I'm not doing that again. 229 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: No one also like really piqued my interest. This is 230 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: no offense to anybody, Like, no one was really like 231 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: piquing my interest. And I so like the people i'd 232 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: met with obviously, like Justin Andrew, Like I didn't know 233 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: Andrew was going to be there. Justin I had a 234 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: better idea that was going to be there. So like 235 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: he was a friendly face. I knew of Spencer. I'd 236 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: never met him or spoken to him. Jonathan, and this 237 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: is one thing I want to clear. Jonathan said that 238 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: we had met before I've never met Yeah. 239 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you got you never met because it 240 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: was did he say you guys were like had a friendship. 241 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: Said that we had met. 242 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: No, he said that we had met. I wrote it 243 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: down in my notes. 244 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I remember him saying. 245 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: No, he said we had met Jill. He said I 246 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: met Jill once before. That's not true. I spoke to 247 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: him on the phone through Rachel. But like, I've never 248 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: met that man. 249 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: Okay, So we're is a loose term. 250 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: So I would I would like if if we had 251 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: spoken on the phone. 252 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: FaceTime or audio audio audio, if we had spoken on 253 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: the phone, I could potentially say. 254 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: That or like I know her, you can say I 255 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: know her, I. 256 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: Would say we spoke on the I would probably just 257 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: like I spoke I never met her on a phone call. 258 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, like we've spoken before. Yeah, that's why I've 259 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: never met that man in my life. Okay, okay, Yeah, 260 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: but I really didn't know who was going to be there, 261 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: and I you know, I know I know of everybody, 262 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: you know everyone in the niche, but you don't, you know. 263 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: Talk to everybody. 264 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: You were you happy about the new setting and the 265 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: living conditions when you got there. 266 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: I was so happy seeing the beds and feeling the 267 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: ac was just like the food was great, Like the 268 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: whole setup was just at first. Honestly, when I walked in, 269 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: I was like, do I talk to you? What do 270 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: I do? No, it's telling me about to do anything. 271 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, it was a little it was an adjustment 272 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: for me coming from like the Old Guard and also 273 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: just like the noise from the waves, like it adds. 274 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: But I walked in, I literally was like, oh my god, 275 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: it's really quiet because it was weird, like the setting 276 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: took a little bit to adjust to, like this like 277 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: kind of villa esque, but oh my god, it was 278 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: so nice. 279 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were saying it was really giving, like bachelor 280 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: in resort, like you're taking away like that very heavy, 281 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: beachy feeling. 282 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, which was like I was definitely was not a sandy, 283 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: but I would have preferred like some like some white noise, 284 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: you know, because it could get a little quiet, a 285 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: little quiet. 286 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 287 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: I did like falling asleep to the ways and the 288 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: sounds of nature in Paradise. 289 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Okay, So you you get a date card, correct, Yeah, 290 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: and you take Jonathan. Yeah okay, so the what like 291 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: the perception of why you took him and why he 292 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: said he would go was because you guys had it? 293 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: Was it like friendly, like we're friends, let's yeah, let's 294 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: just was that. Were you on the same page with that? 295 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: Yes, we were totally on the same page because when 296 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: I got the date card, I look like angry because 297 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: I'm like looking at as Susie's and she had the 298 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: jet Ski and I had this like little thing like 299 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: the BP suite and I was like, oh, what the 300 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: because I was going to take Justin. I said Justin. 301 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 2: I was like, Justin, if I get this diate card, 302 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: you want to go and be like we'll just have fun. 303 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: Like I was literally just looking. I was looking around 304 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm there's nobody here for me 305 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: to take, so Justin, like please your my friend? And 306 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: he said well, he said, well we'll see was on 307 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: that date card because you know you probably wanted to 308 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: go jet skiings. I was like, damn it, like I 309 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: can't take Justin now. So I was looking for another 310 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: friendly face and Jonathan and I had spoken before, and 311 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: so I went up to him and I was like, 312 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: you know what, like I know you're with Alex. I 313 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: don't want to step on me toes like, will you 314 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: be my friend? Will you be my friend? And he 315 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: but then he was acting like, you know, it was 316 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: like Dog's Last Cheeseburger vibe, Like he was like, if 317 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: this is Joel's lasted paradise, I'm gonna make it the 318 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: best day ever. And I'm like, okay, damn, Like that 319 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: was crazy, but but I was happy to go with 320 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: him as friends. I knew it was friendly. I knew 321 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: it was just friends. 322 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: So sorry, I'm gonna like cry. 323 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: Laughing at that person. 324 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: No, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm laughing right now. 325 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: But like, literally, that is what he was doing. 326 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: He was doing dogs Last Day on Earth, like I'm 327 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: a like appointments book, I've got to be euthanized. 328 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: Like, I'm sorry. That was so funny. 329 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: And I was trying to hold it in because I 330 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: didn't want to be rude, but like that's literally what 331 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: was happening. 332 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So all right, And then does were there any 333 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: romantic sparks at all on that date or after that date? 334 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: What I mean, like, get into that relationship a little bit, 335 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: because then, yeah, you. 336 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: Go on this date, you're twisting it up. 337 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 4: There's like a kiss share because you know, you're on 338 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: top of each other and on a date on the Bachelor, 339 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: but like I was just trying to you know, give 340 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: He's just trying to give me the last day of 341 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 4: your life, trying. 342 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: To get me my last cheeseburger. So I was like, 343 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: so on a date the whole time, even like the producers, 344 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: everyone was like, what's going on here? Like it's this friends, 345 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: Like it's just just friends and I So everyone was like, 346 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: what's going on? And I said, I don't know. I 347 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: don't know. 348 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: But when he kissed you, was that when like the 349 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: confusing point came in. I mean yeah, like because like 350 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: the overall vibes of the date, it felt like it 351 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: was going in a more romantic direction than you would 352 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 4: expected it too. 353 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: Like there was obviously like good banter, like that was 354 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: our first time like really spending time with each other, 355 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: like one on one, and so I was like, okay, 356 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: like this is cool, like maybe there's a possibility, but 357 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: like we're just friends. So I don't know. No one 358 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: wants to broach that topic, right. There's a song that 359 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: I really loved and says Friendship's ruined with just one kiss, 360 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: and so I remember laying there and you know, the 361 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: prompt was like kiss the body part and I remember 362 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: thinking in my head, he's going to kiss my knee 363 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: because it's the closest thing to him. And he says, well, 364 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: I guess well because you're on the lips. 365 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: I said, oh okay, wait is that how it went down? 366 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 367 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: Wait? Why did I not? That didn't register in my brain. 368 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a kiss a body part. 369 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: When he was on the podcast, the way he was 370 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: explaining it to me, I guess I interpreted it as like, oh, 371 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: we're we were supposed to kiss, and we were like, oh, 372 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: we're friends, we can kiss. 373 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, it said kiss a body part. And 374 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to kiss my knee because 375 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: literally it was the closest thing to him. And I 376 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: remember thinking that. And then he kissed my lips and 377 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: I was like oh. He was like okay, so and 378 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: he said and then he said on your podcast, he says, 379 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: you know we kiss friends on the lips. Brother what Yeah? 380 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: He was like, friends kiss, like we can kill our 381 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: friends on the lip. 382 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: Ari Like, I I don't like maybe my friends I've 383 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: been best friends with since I was like five years old, 384 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 2: but like, I just met you, homie, we're on a 385 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: dating show. What do you think we're doing yeah. So 386 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: and then in his interviews it was even more confusing 387 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: to me because like you obviously see how this progresses, 388 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: and like in his interviews, he's like, we're kind of 389 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: riding the line between flirty and friendly and blah blah blah. 390 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, so I wasn't crazy. 391 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 4: So I wasn't crazy, No, And it did translate that 392 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: you guys were writing the line between flirty and friendly. 393 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: Right, And then like what you didn't see was like 394 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 2: there was we had like a thirty like thirty to 395 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: forty minute conversation. We're just sitting there like getting kind 396 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: of like deep, like we're kind of getting into it 397 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: with like the serious conversations. And I was like, Okay, 398 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: this is like really good. Like I'm we're friends, but 399 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 2: we're I still didn't know where we stood after the date, 400 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: but like obviously there's roses on the table, and like 401 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try, right, Like I'm gonna at least try. 402 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: So I just let him know, Hey, if you're interested, 403 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: I know you're with Alex, like no pressure, but if 404 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: you're into it, I'm into it. 405 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you regret at all maybe going in there, 406 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: like basically saying like, hey, this is just a friendly date, 407 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: like do you want to do this? Would you do? 408 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: You kind of wish you would have just went in there, 409 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna take a shot and if something's 410 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: outs there. 411 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: No, no, because I mean he also set those parameters 412 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: as well, like he said, you know, I think it's 413 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 2: going to be more friendly. He said it was giving 414 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: like he felt bad for me and he wanted to 415 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: give me like this nice date. So I just rolled 416 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: with that. I wasn't gonna put any more pressure on 417 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: it because I again, I didn't want to step on 418 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: any toes, even though you supposed to do that, but 419 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: like I didn't really want to and I didn't want 420 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: to like insert myself, and so I knew it was 421 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: just gonna be friends and that was fine with me. 422 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Whatever were you were you at all like considering just 423 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: leaving just like I got down there, I'm not interested 424 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: in anyone. I have this day card. There's no one 425 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: I want to bring. I'm leaving. 426 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. No. When the first night that I got there, 427 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: I walked about to my room crying, and I was 428 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: gonna self eliminate before like during the rose ceremony. But 429 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: then that was my plan. I was just gonna go home. 430 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: I was gonna self eliminate. I was like gonna interrupt 431 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: and be like, hey, guys, like I'm just gonna go. 432 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: But then Jonathan said that that thing to me before 433 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: the Rose ceremony, which gave me like a little bit 434 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: of hope. Yeah. I was like, you know, let's just 435 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: like roll the dice and see what happens. But apparently 436 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: that's not what he meant. 437 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: I guess well, and I think it is. 438 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: A For part one of what you said, I feel 439 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: like everyone coupled up crazy fast this season, like usually 440 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: when you come down when you and Susie did, Like 441 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 4: there's still a decent amount of guys that either like 442 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: their connection went home or their connection has jumped to 443 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 4: someone else and. 444 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: They've like opened up for availability. 445 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 4: Like we're seeing so many couples right out of the gate, 446 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 4: which makes it way harder for people coming in obviously. 447 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: And then to the second part of what you're saying 448 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 4: with Jonathan, I think it's im important information that maybe 449 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: I didn't realize. I feel like watching it, you guys 450 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: kept saying like we're friends, We're friends. I'm like, oh, 451 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: these guys are like friends, but you are just like 452 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: you've met and you've locked into the friend zone. It's 453 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 4: not like you have this like relationship where it's like 454 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: it would be weird for us to date now because 455 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: we've met a couple times, like I've met on the 456 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: phone one time you came in and yes, you're going 457 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 4: on to say as friends, but I can now understand 458 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: how you were maybe thinking maybe a connection could be developed. 459 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: And also, like I was going off of the information 460 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: that I was given, Like the information that I was 461 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 2: given was how he was acting towards me. I guess 462 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: he's a really flirty person, and that's just like not 463 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: necessarily who I am. And as this like kind of 464 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: develops like this, like you know, whatever our argument was develops, 465 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: you kind of see that Jonathan considers friends something that 466 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 2: I necessarily don't consider friends, and so like you can 467 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 2: kiss your friends, Okay, that's not really how I see it, 468 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: like you know, And then he said, you're making my 469 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: decision harder and that whole thing, and so I was 470 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: going off the informal that I was given was that, oh, 471 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: there was something about our conversation and about our connection 472 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: that was making his decision harder. How else was I 473 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: supposed to interpret that? 474 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's I think that's how. 475 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: You should And I do see his perspective, like I 476 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: see his perspective where like, oh, I had this connection 477 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: that I didn't have with Alex, but it wasn't specifically 478 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: about Jill. But I didn't specifically say that, like I 479 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: can understand where a miscommunication could happen. But just like 480 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: after that conversation on the day bed, that was it 481 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: for me. I was just like, Okay, clear it up, understood, Well, 482 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: I have a connection. 483 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: He didn't have a connection with Alex either, like he 484 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: did not have a connection with Alex. 485 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: No, not not really, No. 486 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: Had they like ended at that point. 487 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember, yes, yeah, they had ended, and 488 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: so that's why I was confused. I was like, I 489 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: have the rose and no one's pursuing me. I was like, 490 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: that's really strange, Like Jonathan's not putting in any effort 491 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: even as friends. Do you think I wanted to give 492 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: my rose to Sean? No, like I would have much 493 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: read I'm no stranger to a friend rose, like if 494 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: Jonathan is truly there for me, Because I did feel 495 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: like a connection to Jonathan like if it's just on 496 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: an emotional level, that's fine. But I felt more of 497 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: a connection towards Jonathan than I did towards Sean, and 498 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: he could have gotten that rose, but he was putting 499 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: in no effort. And I remember Dale saying clothes, mouse 500 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: don't get fed, and I said, bery it, bear it, 501 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: gock it, like go down right, So it's like right, closed, 502 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: mouse don't get fed. Sean's at least putting an effort, 503 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 2: even if it's like just to get the rose. I mean, 504 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: he's putting an effort. I gotta reward that. I'm not 505 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: gonna reward something that's like not serving me, right. 506 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you're probably looking at Sean like all right, 507 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 4: you're at least trying. You're showing that you want to 508 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: be here, even if it's not with me, and like, yeah, 509 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 4: you deserve the opportunity to then stay and like keep 510 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 4: putting that effort. Hopefully someone will come down that you're like, 511 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: you know, ready to go for. 512 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: Right, like you're playing ball. Like Jonathan, it didn't seem 513 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: like he he wanted to stay almost And some of 514 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: the things he said to me were like a little disparaging, 515 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: Like he was saying that like he insinuated that I 516 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: was a charity case, Like, well, I did something really 517 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: nice for you, so you should be nice to me, brother, 518 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: what Like it was so confusing. I'm just like wow, 519 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: Like that was not really nice of you to say, Like, 520 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm not a charity case. I'm not pining after you specifically, 521 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm just expecting like clear communication. It was bizarre. 522 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 4: Let's dive into the conversation between you guys at the bar. Yeah, 523 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: it was giving like like he'd had a few drinks. 524 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 4: You guys had had a few drinks and like you 525 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: just could not get the communication. No, I I know, 526 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 4: I mean you have it on the show. I'm just 527 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: saying like the communication was so disconnected, like I felt. 528 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: That No, I knew you guys weren't drug. 529 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: I was just providing like a visual like it was 530 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: a bar, like what's happening here? 531 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: Like it is not clicking between these two people. 532 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: No, it's not clicking, because so I was. When I 533 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: walked by, I said I was going to bed. I 534 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: was saying my good nights, and he told me, he says, 535 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, And I said why because truly I 536 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: had been over it. Why are you apologizing to me. 537 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: There's nothing to apologize for, right, Like, I'm over it, 538 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: I debit it. Let's just say I edit it. And 539 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: so he's bringing it back up. And at one point 540 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: in the conversation, I said, Jonathan, is this apology more 541 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: for yours it for me? Because I don't need an apology. 542 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're trying to right the wrong of 543 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: like you coming off as you know. However you're coming off, 544 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 2: you're not feeling secured in the way that ended, and 545 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: I have to now provide that for you. It's not 546 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: an apology for me. It's an apology so you can 547 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 2: feel better. That's what I gleaned from the conversation. And 548 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: he was getting emotional, and I was like, well, what's 549 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 2: going on here? Like why are you feeling emotional about this? 550 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: There's nothing to like. I don't feel negatively towards you. 551 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: Am I a little confused and annoyed, sure, but I 552 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: don't feel And I think what happened was like he 553 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: had said that, you know, like the way that we 554 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: see friends clearly didn't. He was like, well, you're you're 555 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: acting a different way towards me. Well, yes, because I 556 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: treat my romantic partners, my potential romantic partners differently than 557 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 2: I treat my friends, And so I don't think he 558 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: was like comfortable with that. 559 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: Do you think he had a sense of guilt and 560 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 4: was like worried, Like, oh no, Joel thinks I'm like 561 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 4: a bad guy, and I don't want her to think 562 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: that about me, and I want us to be on 563 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 4: good terms. And like thought from that conversation that you 564 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: were going to be like it's all good. I think 565 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: you're amazing, were great, and like because you weren't really 566 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: giving that to him, he just kind of like kept going. 567 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, he like kept going. And like the thing with 568 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: me is like once I find out something about a person, 569 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: I do It's not like I hold a grudge, but 570 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: I'm just like that's in my head. I don't have 571 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: to like love everybody dearly. And I just honestly needed 572 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 2: space from that because the information that I was given 573 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: was not clear information. And so I'm not gonna keep 574 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: putting my energy and time into a relationship that is 575 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: not like serving me, especially after you say some like 576 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: weird things to me, acting like I'm charity, acting like 577 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: I should be grateful that I took you on this date. 578 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I should be so grateful that you 579 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: went on the date with me. Like he was almost 580 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: making me feel like I was I should be like 581 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: thanking him and I should be which is like, dude, 582 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: how oh yeah, how awful it was has spend time 583 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: with me? How terrible. I'm so sorry you had to 584 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: do that and play twister. I mean, I kind of am, 585 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: but like it was just he was making me the 586 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: whole time. I felt crazy. The whole time, I felt crazy, 587 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 2: and the messages were not getting through. 588 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think do you think he was also 589 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: worried about how he was going to be perceived from 590 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: the audience. 591 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: Do you think that that is the main that is 592 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 2: the main reason that I believe I don't think he 593 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: actually cares about me, because he hasn't reached out to 594 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: me since, and so like, fine, fine, fine, fine, but 595 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: like I know that you to be you're you're the 596 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 2: good guy. I said, certified good guy. I rescind that certification. 597 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: Not because I don't think that he has like the 598 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: potential to be like a good guy, but I think 599 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: he's so worried about how he's perceived rather than the 600 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: actual feelings. Because I didn't need that apology, like he 601 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: needed to sit with that, like sit with the discomfort 602 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: and like the way he's being, you know, the way 603 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: he's moving rather than the way I'm feeling I can 604 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: feel ever I want. 605 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we see that more, like as years 606 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: go on, more people that come on reality TV in general, 607 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: but like especially The Bachelor, it seems like people like 608 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: if they get labeled the good guy or the good woman, 609 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: like they really want to hold on to that or 610 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: harness that, and they get so worried that that's gonna 611 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: fall apart. 612 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it even be more of a microskill if 613 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: he doesn't want his friends and. 614 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: The people there that he's been in Coney with or 615 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: Jill to think he's a bad guy. 616 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 2: For sure, totally totally. I fully understand that I've never 617 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 2: personally had that because I've never been the good guy 618 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: or the good girl, so I'm not like but I 619 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: can totally understand that. And I would have thought, I 620 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: would still have like thought that he was a good 621 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: guy if he had just come to me and been 622 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 2: honest and not tried to flip my words and not 623 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: try to manipulate me into thinking that I should be 624 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: grateful or that I made me feel like I'm a 625 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: charity case or you know, X Y and Z, I 626 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: would have still thought that. Never he said that I 627 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: was questioning his intentions when I asked, why are you apologizing? 628 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: And I said, no, I wasn't questioning your intentions. I 629 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: was just simply asking why do you feel the need 630 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: to apologize, because I don't feel like there's a need 631 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: to apologize. But like every little thing that I said 632 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna flip it. I'm gonna flip it. 633 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna flip it. And that's weird to me. That's strange. 634 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: And I don't know what you're doing because you're supposed 635 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: to be wanting a rose from me, I guess, but 636 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: like you're not acting like it. 637 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: It was so weird. 638 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: It was so strange. 639 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a deep lack of compatibility between the two 640 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: of you as fur romantic partners. 641 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, And I'm fine with, like you know, I'm 642 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: fine with like letting it go and letting that like 643 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: be in the past, and like I wish you all 644 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: the best. God blast, but don't try to make me 645 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: feel like a charity case. Don't put that on me. 646 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: That's weird. It's not fair. 647 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: We see this week you self eliminate. Congrats, way to go. 648 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: I know I love you. Do you regret it? Do 649 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: you regret it at all? Like what was going through 650 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: your head? Or were you just fed up of just 651 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: my person is definitely not here. 652 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know one thing about me. I'm not going 653 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: to overstay my welcome like I'm gonna go. I had 654 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: the writing was on the wall, and like I knew 655 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: when I know it's my time to go when I 656 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 2: lose my sparkle because I am not an insecure person 657 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: outside of this environment. I'm not going to seek fallady 658 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: from men who see me only as a friend when 659 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: I know I deserve more. I know that my guy's 660 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: not coming. Alex Boord, he's at home in Detroit. You know, 661 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: you know Brian Witzman or whatever his last name is 662 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: is in Chicago. He's not a good so thank you, Joseph. 663 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: But like you know, so, I I just knew that 664 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: my time was up because everyone was just like I'm like, 665 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: why are guys acting weird towards me? Like there were times, 666 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: which is really sad, there were times when I saw 667 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: all the couples together and I was like supposed to 668 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: meet a couple with Sean, and I felt so weird 669 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: and I didn't want to interrupt theirs that I would 670 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: literally go to the bathroom or like go to my 671 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: room and sit in my room like that sucks and 672 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm not that way in real life. I'm not like, 673 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I could catch a guy any day of 674 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: the week if I really wanted. Is he going to 675 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: be quality? Probably not? But like, I'm not that person 676 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: outside of this, and so I'm not going to stay 677 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: somewhere where I know that the reason why I came 678 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: here wasn't to like, hey, be on TV play survivor, 679 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 2: you know, like I I'm going to gonna go am 680 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: I here? 681 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: It is like I am still I guess, just shocked 682 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 4: by the fact that it's so couplely so early, Like was. 683 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: It like that? 684 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why you keep saying that, because. 685 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 4: I just feel like, and I mean, I only have 686 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: our experience to go off of, and look, we obviously 687 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 4: coupled up early, so it sounds like ironic for me 688 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 4: to say this, But we were all still hanging out 689 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 4: very like cohesively as a group or in little groups. 690 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 4: It wasn't like two too too too, everyone was coupled 691 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 4: up all of only. 692 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: The only strong couple on this beach right now currently 693 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: is Spencer and Jazz, Spencer and Jezz. 694 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: There's barely and Jeremy Bailey and Jeremy. 695 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 4: But I would say, I guess it's not the it's 696 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 4: not how many strong couples they are, it's how isolated 697 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 4: the hangouts for the couples are. Maybe that's the new 698 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: like location and it just makes it easier to do that. 699 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, like everyone would be around the 700 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: bar like with their person and so like I was, 701 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: you know, hanging out with the Goldens and I was 702 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: like third wheeling Cat and Dale like nobody's business and like, 703 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: but again I just don't want to like insert myself 704 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: when like you're trying to connect and I know my 705 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: person's not going to be here. I say, you know, 706 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: I know I'm an acquired taste, like acquire some taste PayPal, 707 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: Like I know I'm an acquired taste. And that's like 708 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: beautiful that I love that about myself and I'm not 709 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: gonna change. But like I can know we know the 710 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: people in vaccal nation, who the fuck is coming down? 711 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: No one? And so I'm just not gonna and especially 712 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: when like Alicia came in, I'm like, oh my god, 713 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: she's gorgeous. I'm I'm toast, you know, like there's no 714 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: reason for me to be here here though. 715 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: Did you care that Shawn was gonna potentially go talk 716 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: to Alicia? Did that bother you at all? 717 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: No? Okay, No, what bothered me was that April was 718 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: stealing all of my men. Like what bothered me was like, 719 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: you know, everyone's doing their cute little thing with their 720 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 2: person for the Birds of Paradise and Shan shows April. 721 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: I was like, what I mean, but entertaining. No, that 722 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: that was like the nail in the coffin for me, 723 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: Like the coffin could not flow even if you tried, 724 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: but they're like there were many nails in the coffin. 725 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: But that was like, Okay, there's someone here for him. 726 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 2: He's in a good spot. I'm gonna go. 727 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I guess. I mean, I don't want 728 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: to blame it, like you said, kind of like on 729 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: the setting, because I just feel like that it's it 730 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: just seems maybe it's just the people, but I will 731 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: see so just men. Well, no, because even on our 732 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: season of paradise. There was more just like group hangouts. 733 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: It was usually boys were hanging combos, you know, Yeah. 734 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: It was, it really was. It very seldomly was just 735 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: like a couple paired off in this couple corner, a 736 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: couple paired off in that corner. Like that really wasn't 737 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: a thing to. 738 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: Like be the end. 739 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: And then yeah, yeah, but that makes it a it's 740 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 4: already hard. I feel like to be in your situation 741 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 4: where you're like I'm single down here and everyone's coupled up, 742 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 4: and then b to feel like you're probably just kind 743 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: of feeling awkward on a low level at all times 744 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: in terms of moving around the space. 745 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like also like no offense, Like all 746 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: of those guys are great, but they're not my guy. 747 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm not like me, me can make something work 748 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: with Brian, I'm not doing that. Maybe makes some big 749 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: work Dale, I'm not doing that. Like I there there 750 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: was truly no one that I could see anything with, 751 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: and I was wasting my time and I was wasting 752 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: their time. And I was like from trying to get 753 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: their validation, which is so ill. Why am I doing that? 754 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: Like I was feeling worse. 755 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I think they just need they 756 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: just need more more contestants down there. I think it 757 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: gets to a point where because you're not the only one, 758 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's been a few this season that's 759 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: just like, well fuck, there's nobody either, there's no one. 760 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, no slim Pickens. 761 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah there was slim Pickens because because and I understand 762 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: that they had to make room for the Goldens, right, 763 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: and so because normally there's like twelve guys, but this 764 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: time there were six, and so I was like, ooh, bloodbath. 765 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 2: Every week four people are going home. Yikes. And also 766 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: like I had twenty four hours to make a connection. 767 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: And that's not a lie. That is exactly how much 768 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: time I had, so coming down Like normally, like the 769 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: Old Guard, you would have three or four days to 770 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: make something happen. No, no, I had twenty four hours. 771 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: So that really sucked. 772 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you really need to get like there really needs 773 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: to be a lot of luck involved. 774 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: In a lot of luck, right, Like making a connection 775 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: down there is like catching lightning in a bottle, like 776 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: and especially for someone like me who's not like a 777 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 2: like heavy hitteror like whoa like Susie. You know, it's 778 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: like Susie and then Jill like, I hope you're hungry 779 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: for nothing, Like that's what I felt like when I 780 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: walked in. I was like, oh my god, sorry, guys, 781 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: Like it was strange, it was weird. 782 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you feel after you left finding out 783 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 4: that the format was going to do a bit of 784 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 4: a pivot and half a million dollars was involved, because 785 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 4: we see that at the teaser for the rest of 786 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 4: the season at the end of the episode, after you've 787 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 4: sent yourself home. 788 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't care. Like I'm the least competitive 789 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: person ever. I'm like, do I want half a million dollars? 790 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? 791 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: But do do I want to go through the means 792 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: to get that? And like make a fake couple with whoever? 793 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: Who was I even going to couple up with? Like 794 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: if there was someone there that I could genuinely see 795 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: something with, yeah, sure, darn that sucks, But like there 796 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 2: was no way to get to the half a million dollars. 797 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: There was no path to get there, so I. 798 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 4: Didn't really care, right, that makes sense, Like if I'm Susie, 799 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 4: M'd be like, maybe I should answer Jeremy's call a 800 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: little differently, But like in your situation, you're like, I 801 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 4: would have literally been stuck with coupled up with someone 802 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 4: that I had genuinely no hrmantic interest in. 803 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, why am I going to do that? Yeah? That 804 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 2: would be hell on earth for me. 805 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really fair. 806 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Jill. That's it. We're running out of time. Thank you 807 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: so much for coming on. Always always a pleasure talking 808 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: to you. I don't think you'll go back on this show. 809 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: I don't think I will either, but anybody else hit 810 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: me up, you know. 811 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Yep, Jill, thank you so much for taking the time. 812 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. 813 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 2: Thank you guys, Thank you, Hey, Joe, follow up on 814 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: that for me. 815 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: I will yeah. 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