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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Colts over Time, our podcast here

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Speaker 1: on Colts dot Com and the Colts Audio Network. I'm

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, joined by the former Colts coach Rick Venturrey.

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Speaker 1: Offensive lineman Joe writes the NFL Draft first round wise

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Speaker 1: is in the books literally moments ago and making sense

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Speaker 1: of what happened to the first round of the drafts,

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Speaker 1: specifically at the top end, with the Colts picking fourth overall,

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Speaker 1: selecting Anthony Richardson, the quarterback out of Florida. We're coming

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Speaker 1: to you from the Colts indoor facility right after the

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Speaker 1: Colts season ticket holder draft party. Was a fun night,

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Speaker 1: really fun around eight forty five. Joe, your reaction, and

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Speaker 1: then Rick, we'll get to you as well. Just your

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Speaker 1: initial thoughts, initial reaction when you saw it was Richardson

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Speaker 1: indeed coming to the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Just excitement, excitement for what he could bring to this franchise.

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Speaker 2: In just the ceiling, you know, we talked earlier he

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Speaker 2: has the highest ceiling of any quarterback in this draft.

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Speaker 2: And so after Young went, and then Stroud, and then

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Speaker 2: when Houston tray back up to number three to get Anderson,

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Speaker 2: the Colts had their chance to pick their guy, and

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Speaker 2: they got Richardson and had a lot of conviction on him,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just really excited to see what the future

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Speaker 2: is for this franchise. I mean, talk about Saint Steichen,

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Speaker 2: what he did with Jalen Hurts and Philly kind of

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Speaker 2: the new NFL coach that the Saturday afternoon offense combined

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Speaker 2: with the Sunday concepts and truly Richardson's unique blend and

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Speaker 2: just his elite traits has you hoping and dreaming as

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Speaker 2: a Colts fan that he'll be a guy that'll be

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Speaker 2: able to lead this franchise for the next decade plus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I had a gut feeling, I really

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Speaker 3: did that they really liked Richardson. I just felt it,

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Speaker 3: you know, and talking to them. Nobody ever ranked them

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Speaker 3: for me, but I just felt like that from the

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Speaker 3: almost the very beginning, they really felt good about him.

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Speaker 3: And my first thought is that Richardson truly redefines cold football.

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Speaker 3: I mean this, and we can't expect too much out him.

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Speaker 3: I don't meet he fights it tomorrow. I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: going to be a developmental process. But what stich in

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Speaker 3: the message he has sent to everyone is this is

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Speaker 3: the style we're going to be you know, we are

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Speaker 3: going to combine the elements of the NCAAA that complement

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Speaker 3: this quarterback Richardson. You're going to see a running centric offense,

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Speaker 3: which will actually with the quarterback, a quarterback running centric offense.

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Speaker 3: You're going to see designer runs, not just zone reads.

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Speaker 3: You're also going to make it better for Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 3: because you're going to be able to with the zone

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Speaker 3: read game you actually run versus lighter boxes, so I

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Speaker 3: think you kick up bonuses there, you know, and then

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Speaker 3: the challenge that they achieved with Hurtz. The challenge here

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Speaker 3: is how you can implement a few basic NFL passing concepts.

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Speaker 3: Not going to be a thousand like a Bill Walsh,

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Speaker 3: You're not going to be that team. But what Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: has been able to do is combine that NCAA philosophy

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Speaker 3: game with those good outside receivers, and I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: the direction you're gonna go, That's where you're gonna see it.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited because I think basically what we've ended up

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Speaker 3: with is the high ceiling. As Joe said, Okay, if

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Speaker 3: you got to shoot, you know, shoot for the moon.

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Speaker 3: You may hit the stars, okay, and you and you

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Speaker 3: brought in a guy with a wow quality.

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Speaker 4: I like. I like the idea of a wow quality.

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Speaker 3: I was never I'm not taking anything away from Stroud,

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Speaker 3: but he never wowed me. Ever, he was smooth and

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Speaker 3: all those things. The young kid from Alabama did give

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Speaker 3: me the wow factor. Richardson gives me the wow factor

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Speaker 3: and that you know what, It excites me. So it's

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Speaker 1: We talked about this on the on the radio show.

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Speaker 1: But again, just the athletic traits and the measurements, they're

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Speaker 1: just gonna blow you out of the water. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the combine testing results, the forty yard dash, the vertical,

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Speaker 1: the relative athletics score, all best numbers in the history

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Speaker 1: of the combine. As it relates to quarterbacks, topping that

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Speaker 1: of Cam Newton when you talk about what he can

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Speaker 1: be and resembling that of Jalen Hurts with Shane Stike

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Speaker 1: in a Philadelphia type of offense from last year, what

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Speaker 1: does he do well accentuating the offense around him and

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Speaker 1: building because they've said, no matter who we pick, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to come in and run our stuff. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna tailor the offense quarterback. So what are his strengths

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Speaker 3: Well, the two things that he does best at this time.

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Speaker 3: He is a terrific runner, not good, not above average,

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Speaker 3: I mean, this guy can take it all the way.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna see a offense that is designed for

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Speaker 3: and he heaves the ball well, he throws the ball deep,

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Speaker 3: So that's going to be a part, a big part

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Speaker 3: do is work on the accuracy and and couter and

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Speaker 3: throwing intermediate routes, blitz control, things like that.

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Speaker 4: Those are the aspects he has to grow with.

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Speaker 2: And when you think about the Colts over really the

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Speaker 2: last four years since Andrew Luck retired, what have they

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Speaker 2: been lacking? Explosive plays on offense, scoring points on offense.

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Speaker 2: So now you're gonna have explosive plays with your legs,

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Speaker 2: not only for Richardson, but it's going to really open

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Speaker 2: things up for Jonathan Taylor because you have another rush

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Speaker 2: and we can throw it over you had. The downfield

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Speaker 2: passing game is going to expand because of the ability

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Speaker 2: to Richardson to run the ball. I think that's just

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Speaker 2: what's exciting to see what Shane and Jim Bob and

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Speaker 2: this staff can do with him. And I think to coaches,

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Speaker 2: point's a good one. He's not going to come in

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Speaker 2: Chris Ballard said it, you know, in his draft preck.

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Speaker 2: We draft him for what we think he can be

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Speaker 2: and then coach your point, it's exciting. It's a Colts

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Speaker 2: drafted Peyton Manning twenty five years ago, quarter century and

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Speaker 2: it was great quarterback played from him and Andrew Luck

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Speaker 2: and won a lot of games, but that was your

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Speaker 2: traditional in the pocket passer. It's a new era, a

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Speaker 2: new exciting era Colts football that I think Colts fans

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Speaker 1: And you go back to the college resume, and his

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Speaker 1: he only did have the one year as a starting

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Speaker 1: completion percentage. Now, I think, Rick, you've done a great

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Speaker 1: why that number wasn't like a Will Levis or a

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Speaker 1: But how confident are you that he can and obviously

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Speaker 1: raise that number, but then also adapt and thrive in

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that the reason I have the most confidence,

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Speaker 3: and it was one of the reasons that from the

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Speaker 3: very beginning I was in favor of the Shane Steike

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Speaker 3: then to add guys like Cooter and Turner to the staff.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of confidence that they will gradually

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Speaker 3: bring these deficiencies up, and they will. They will utilize

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Speaker 2: Way, and because of the uniqueness of his athletic ability

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Speaker 2: seen in terms of pure athletic ability. You could argue

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Speaker 2: because he's going to be able to do different things

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Speaker 2: different challenge for defensive coordinators than not a lot of

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson the highest drafted Colts quarterback since Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. You guys both kind of hinted at

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Speaker 1: it a little bit. Joe, what's your confidence level that

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Speaker 1: Richardson can be able to handle all that comes with

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Speaker 1: being drafted in the top five and being I mean

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Speaker 1: have to handle a lot of stuff on the field

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Speaker 1: and off the field. What's your confidence level, primarily on

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Speaker 2: And I think if you have Minshew there and you've

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Speaker 2: certain time, who's been in that system. But reality is

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Speaker 2: he's not yet twenty one years old. And you know,

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Speaker 2: for me, if you're Richardson, you just got to live

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Speaker 2: at the facility. You got to eat, breathe, sleep, football,

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Speaker 2: as much tape as you can, all the workouts, all

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Speaker 2: continue to get better and ascend as quick as you can.

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Speaker 2: And then to the other point, it's managing expectations and

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Speaker 2: there's one hundred different things that go into being a

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Speaker 2: And so that's where you know it'll be important for

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Speaker 3: I think the three things. I think the Colts when

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Speaker 3: they did their due diligence, I mean, they spent hours

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Speaker 3: so I know they came away.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: I know Chris is really big on work ethics, so

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Speaker 3: there's no doubt in my mind he wouldn't be here

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Speaker 3: if he hadn't had.

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Speaker 2: You're not drafting a guy unless you have confidence he does.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't do.

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Speaker 1: It, and that's what the Colts wanted. They wanted the

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Speaker 1: guy that was most obsessed with football, that was big

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Speaker 1: on the intangible.

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Speaker 3: I think I think number one there. I think number two.

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Speaker 3: Understand this. This offense is going to be built around

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Speaker 3: what he does. Forget what you've seen before, so that's

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Speaker 4: And then the other thing.

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Speaker 3: And I always laugh about this, and I know it's

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Speaker 3: good news bad news. It's good news because the draft

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Speaker 3: has gotten so big that even old guys like me

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Speaker 3: have a job. Okay, but the irony of it is

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Speaker 3: a week from now when we start some mini camp

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Speaker 3: and nobody could ever talk about the draft again. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's over and immediately you come in here and you

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Speaker 3: go to work.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Once you go to work and you get task oriented,

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Speaker 3: all this other noise is.

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Speaker 4: Gone and you just play foot.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I'm getting way ahead of ourselves. I understand that,

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Speaker 1: How do you, at least how do you handle Richardson

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Speaker 3: What I think you probably do is playing with the twos,

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Speaker 4: You know, it might be it might be a red zone.

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Speaker 3: You know, because that's where you utilize the quarterback, that's

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Speaker 4: All right, you have it, Jalen.

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Speaker 2: But if you're Jim, Bob and Shanney, you're building this

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Speaker 2: that he's the one out there playing. It's the concepts

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Speaker 2: and it's what we're building as an offense around Richardson

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Speaker 1: All Right, last thing on Richardson before we set up

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Speaker 1: the rest of the draft for the Colt starting on Friday,

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Speaker 1: day two in the second round. For you, Joe, what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think watching him as he continues to

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Speaker 2: training camp is one thing, but you know you have

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Speaker 2: So really the preseedon is going to be super exciting

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Speaker 2: for him because it's going to be his first live

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My biggest thing is my biggest if if I have

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Speaker 3: think he's around it. I don't think he's you know,

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Speaker 3: when you talk about ceiling, that's where he's got to get.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's you know, he's not going to get

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Speaker 4: Do what he did in Florida. In other words, the

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Speaker 1: Lastly, as we wrap up, taking a look after what

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Speaker 1: happened after the Colts at four. Surprise that there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but that was it as far as quarterbacks. We didn't

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Speaker 1: Your surprise on that and any other big picture takeaways

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Speaker 2: The time, Yeah, Levis was a surprise. He didn't go

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Speaker 2: not nearly as much as the first round, but you

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Speaker 2: to sleep on it, think about it. Entertained trade scenarios,

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Speaker 2: and for me, I'm really looking at three positions cornerback,

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Speaker 2: guys at all those positions that came off the board.

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Speaker 2: But there's still a lot of quality players available. So

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Speaker 2: be excited to see what the Colts do on Day

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Speaker 4: Well, actually that's right, it is tonight.

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Speaker 3: I mean normally, normally you teams that have multiple picks

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Speaker 4: Knockout Philadelphia. I mean they fell into it.

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Speaker 3: I mean they get Carter, who drops Smith, They get

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Levis is a surprise. He won't be around long.

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Speaker 3: Somebody will get him, I think, without questioning migrating, there

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Speaker 3: corner here at thirty five tomorrow, there really is. My

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Speaker 2: And when you think about wide receiver too, getting a

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Speaker 1: Team, prioritize that more not necessarily.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think corner is a bigger maybe need,

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Speaker 2: going to take, I'd say wide receiver or corner, because

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Speaker 2: you you know there's gonna be quality players there. It's

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Speaker 2: just who do that have the Colts ranked higher on

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Speaker 1: Indeed, Rick Venturi Joe writes, gentlemen, thank you for the podcast,

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Speaker 1: great insight on this, but all night long on radio,

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Speaker 1: you guys are awesome.

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Speaker 4: It's a great time, a really fun Yeah, we'll hit

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Speaker 4: it again tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, busy night here at the Indiana Farm Bureau Football

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Speaker 1: Center of the Colts draft Anthony Richardson, and we'll have

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Speaker 1: more breakdown of him tomorrow on the Last Word with

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Speaker 1: pick by pick analysis starting at seven tomorrow night on

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Speaker 1: the Colts Mobile Lap for Rick and Joe, I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to overtime. The Colts get a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson out of Florida. We'll talk more about that

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on the Colts Audio Network. So long, good night,